@slicingwater I can see how you believe in that. But the killing of animals is as inmoral as it is to kill someones father,mother,child,friend or any person. When you kill an animal, they belong to a family, they have been a animals child, they have been an animals father or mother, and they have been a friend of a human or animal. It is just as wrong as when white men killed the Indians. I hear where you are coming from but the point is not the fact they are being killed it's how they are.
"The only really soulful eyes belong to the dog or cat who sits on your lap."
Absolutely beautiful video. some of the most truthful and sensible quotes and words i've ever seen
words are a powerful weapon used to belittle or discredit the animals or those that protect them. When a person loves, it's god given, pure thought. but when an animal loves, it's programmed instinct.
They're indeed not things, or objects, but other nations. animals, think, feel, communicate, and remember
I am against killing animals for the sake of killing them, but its really hard not to kill an use them for food and the advancement of medical technology. I mean its hard but if it makes you feel better they didn't die in vain.
Hi slicingwater. You hit upon a good point, if you need an animal to die for you to continue to live there is nothing immoral happening - I mean it has to happen, and you can't blame someone for doing what they can to survive. However there exists no nutrient that we need to eat animal products to gain - in fact many of the diseases we suffer are because of eating animal products. A vegan diet is much healthier, and hence it makes the deaths of these animals needless...
... - as soon as it becomes needless to kill an animal it is wrong. Regardless of whether it is for fur (which there exist alternatives to), meat (for which there exist much healthier and cheaper/more efficient alternatives to) or science (for which there appear to be no needed animal tests anymore).
I guess what I want this video to show is that it isn't just fur/game hunting anymore - more or less all use of animals these days is needless, and so just as wrong.
...its needless to eat animals...and its needless to have a computer as its needless to eat more than we need and as its needless to raise your children and its needless to actualy move your body one time in your life...i guess if we think the same way you are...life is needless
?? I assume you mean where do we draw the line? As if we take that criticism of 'blah blah everything is needless, so I don't care about anything' then the world would be in some state! Clearly you do believe in ethics, so what you mean is where do we draw the line if everything is needless to some degree?
Well for me, just use reason. An animals life is far more important to them than my taste for a burger made of their flesh. Especially as your taste is a taught thing...
It's just common sense, all be it a common sense that society is only just waking up to. You don't lose out on anything by starting to consume your nutrients from different sources, or wear clothes made of different materials etc. However if you don't start doing this, other individuals will lose out on something - and in the case of animal rights, these things are as extreme as individuals losing out on their lives, their freedom, or having to put up with undue amounts of suffering.
Very nice some good quotes and beautiful/disturbing images. Had to mute it after the intro though, those songs that always accompany these sorts of pictures annoy me a lot.
xanimalxrightsx, you seem like an intelligent enough person, I've been watching both sides of the animal rights/welfare debate but have yet to see a convincing and rational argument. It usually just boils down to "I want to eat" and "Eating meat is evil". Can someone give me a rational(no morals) reason to give up meat?
There is no purely 'rational' reason for any moral - be it for the protection of humans or animals.
However if we are to protect any humans it should be because they can suffer/experience it when we don't (and not just 'because they are a human' as that's a circular, irrational argument), so the same should be true of animals as scientifically speaking they are experiencing individuals too.
And after all we can live healthily without eating humans or animals, so moraly we should.
You could hook yourself up to a feeding tube, a respirator, and an artificial heart. You could program a machine to feed you an ideal amount of artificially manufactured nutrients and you could theoretically live forever with no impact whatsoever on the environment and live a truly "death-free" lifestyle. Why, then, shouldn't you?
I have never condoned sacrificing everything you possibly can, for the sake of everyone else, so I would assume your comment is 'where do we draw the line'? I'm sure some people would say draw it at your self and fuck everyone else, and I'm sure others would give all they have to help others. For me it's about using reason. Changing my diet, or buying different cosmetics/clothes is a reasonable demand if some others' life is at stake. And by all scientific paramteres, an animal is an other.
well, thegillotine. If being kind and compassionate isn't good enough a reason. How about that its healthier for you. and I mean physically healthier.
Eating animal based products, particulary red meat and pork, has been proven to cause things like heart disease and colon cancer.
veganism is also cleaner for the planet, animal agriculture and factory farming sucks up an exorbitant amount of resources, like water, and produces even more pollution
'give me a rational(no morals) reason to give up meat?'
elevated risks (ranging from 20% to 60%) were evident for esophageal, colorectal, liver, and lung cancer, comparing individuals in the highest with those in the lowest quintile of red meat intake. Cross, Amanda (2007). "A Prospective Study of Red and Processed Meat Intake in Relation to Cancer Risk". PLoS Medicine (the Public Library of Science) 4 (12): e325.
u can find thousands of other reasons with a scientific database...
This is the most moving video I've seen on the subject. You showed the beauty and majesty of the world we live in and the other animals we share it with. That is far more powerful than simply showing streams of the horror images. Thank you so very much :(
When a human being becomes comfortable with killing and/or torturing animals humanity is lost. And who is say animals don't have souls. Who guards the gates to heaven............ and the lion will lay with the lamb.
kawii ya humans are pretitors so y is it wrong when we kill animals for rood and other animals kill and it aint wrong? and try growing enuph food to suport the human race it cant be done!
Gary77,Other animals don't have an understanding of morality and so aren't demanded to stick by moral rules - that would be pointless (as it also is with children and a lot of mentally disabled adults).The point is we can eat more healthily and easily without killing other humans/animals,and so don't need to cause such suffering or death-so morally we shouldn't, that's the bottom line. Similarly eating plant based products is much more efficient than eating animals and so more people can be fed.
Why is it that animals must have souls for us to give them moral consideration? That they can suffer is enough. It's an impossible trick to ask that we only regard those with souls as having "rights". It's impossible to prove the existence of a soul. Therefore, we can, as superior humans - claim that we possess (this invisable, unprovable quality)and animals do not. Therefore - we justify exploiting them. That they can suffer is the axiom. Be Vegan.
Well done, xAnimalxRightsx! Some very beautiful photos in there. I'm with you the whole way on this. And I'm sure your videos are helping to sharpen sensitivity towards our animal friends. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
animals we buy in a store are farmed raised to be killed and eaten. I would like to see animal abuse and poaching down but if I eat a steak it is no different than a lion hunting down and eating a an antelope. Also many humans would die if it weren't for animal testing.
It is quite different as a lion can't differentiate between right or wrong - just because one species does it, we shouldn't base our human morality on it else the world would be in even more of a state than its in now! From what i know of animal testing in my research - it's, on the whole, based on tradition and not cost or time-effective techniques anymore. Obviously this doesn't even touch on the vital fact that a life is a life - human or non-human.
Also if animals were farmed humanely rather than pumped full of growth hormones and not allowed to exercise or even be outside at all and then killed the second they reach maturity then there wouldn't be so much of a problem, hunting is natural, torture and genetic modification is not.
Well i imagine there would be less of a problem, but 'hunting being natural' is hardly an argument for it being right. So many human natural urges are condemned, it would be odd to use nature as a marker of morality. Most would say we should use moral code to judge our natural instincts, not so much the other way around - else the world would be chaotic.
Humans are naturally repulsed by the thought of even killing.
Humans, unlike natural carnivores, can't even digest meat properly. Humans lack the uricase enzyme so instead of uric acid being an antioxidant, uric acid actually causes cancer as a xenobiotic. Humans risk cancer from the type of iron in meat as well, heme iron. Humans lack the NeuG5c gene too so meat causes cancer by that route, etc.
five stars!! Excellent video!! It gives me such hope and joy, even after witnessing what horrendous things humanity has done to the world, to see other people who are just as dedicated as I am to ending it. We battled racism, we battled sexism, and now we're battling speciesism - and we ARE making progress.
The one being held across a table? I don't remember exactly (i have to get through a lot of hurrendous pictures for different videos/events), but certainly some sort of animal experimentation. Think it was a PETA (or BUAV) investigation that caught it on tape, the picture in this video is a still from that. if anyone is interested it's all on:
Another good video... thanks for posting!! Wow, it brings up some very thought-provoking points that most animal abusers/meat-eaters never even stop to consider... all beings, whether they be a child or a chicken or a mouse, still feels pain and is a "somebody" in the world.
that specisim part is totally true and i have always thougt like that since i can remeber and it seems crazy for anyone to think diffrently. i have to say you rock good job on the vid. it feels nice to know other people think this way.
@slicingwater I can see how you believe in that. But the killing of animals is as inmoral as it is to kill someones father,mother,child,friend or any person. When you kill an animal, they belong to a family, they have been a animals child, they have been an animals father or mother, and they have been a friend of a human or animal. It is just as wrong as when white men killed the Indians. I hear where you are coming from but the point is not the fact they are being killed it's how they are.
BelmoreRose 11 months ago
Thank you for sharing it with us!
natanon009 1 year ago
Excellent video in every respect. Glad to see another compassionate soul here.
fishmarc 1 year ago
Excellent video! Kudos to whoever made it. Keep spreading the word!
journeyman47 1 year ago
"The only really soulful eyes belong to the dog or cat who sits on your lap."
Absolutely beautiful video. some of the most truthful and sensible quotes and words i've ever seen
words are a powerful weapon used to belittle or discredit the animals or those that protect them. When a person loves, it's god given, pure thought. but when an animal loves, it's programmed instinct.
They're indeed not things, or objects, but other nations. animals, think, feel, communicate, and remember
Bless you!
WildlifeDen 1 year ago
Thank you for the video.
neukoelnistgeil 2 years ago
I am against killing animals for the sake of killing them, but its really hard not to kill an use them for food and the advancement of medical technology. I mean its hard but if it makes you feel better they didn't die in vain.
slicingwater 2 years ago
Hi slicingwater. You hit upon a good point, if you need an animal to die for you to continue to live there is nothing immoral happening - I mean it has to happen, and you can't blame someone for doing what they can to survive. However there exists no nutrient that we need to eat animal products to gain - in fact many of the diseases we suffer are because of eating animal products. A vegan diet is much healthier, and hence it makes the deaths of these animals needless...
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
... - as soon as it becomes needless to kill an animal it is wrong. Regardless of whether it is for fur (which there exist alternatives to), meat (for which there exist much healthier and cheaper/more efficient alternatives to) or science (for which there appear to be no needed animal tests anymore).
I guess what I want this video to show is that it isn't just fur/game hunting anymore - more or less all use of animals these days is needless, and so just as wrong.
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
...its needless to eat animals...and its needless to have a computer as its needless to eat more than we need and as its needless to raise your children and its needless to actualy move your body one time in your life...i guess if we think the same way you are...life is needless
DIVAD291 2 years ago
?? I assume you mean where do we draw the line? As if we take that criticism of 'blah blah everything is needless, so I don't care about anything' then the world would be in some state! Clearly you do believe in ethics, so what you mean is where do we draw the line if everything is needless to some degree?
Well for me, just use reason. An animals life is far more important to them than my taste for a burger made of their flesh. Especially as your taste is a taught thing...
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
It's just common sense, all be it a common sense that society is only just waking up to. You don't lose out on anything by starting to consume your nutrients from different sources, or wear clothes made of different materials etc. However if you don't start doing this, other individuals will lose out on something - and in the case of animal rights, these things are as extreme as individuals losing out on their lives, their freedom, or having to put up with undue amounts of suffering.
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
Very nice some good quotes and beautiful/disturbing images. Had to mute it after the intro though, those songs that always accompany these sorts of pictures annoy me a lot.
xanimalxrightsx, you seem like an intelligent enough person, I've been watching both sides of the animal rights/welfare debate but have yet to see a convincing and rational argument. It usually just boils down to "I want to eat" and "Eating meat is evil". Can someone give me a rational(no morals) reason to give up meat?
thegillotine09 2 years ago
There is no purely 'rational' reason for any moral - be it for the protection of humans or animals.
However if we are to protect any humans it should be because they can suffer/experience it when we don't (and not just 'because they are a human' as that's a circular, irrational argument), so the same should be true of animals as scientifically speaking they are experiencing individuals too.
And after all we can live healthily without eating humans or animals, so moraly we should.
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
Darn, you used the "cannibalism" argument.
You could hook yourself up to a feeding tube, a respirator, and an artificial heart. You could program a machine to feed you an ideal amount of artificially manufactured nutrients and you could theoretically live forever with no impact whatsoever on the environment and live a truly "death-free" lifestyle. Why, then, shouldn't you?
thegillotine09 2 years ago
I have never condoned sacrificing everything you possibly can, for the sake of everyone else, so I would assume your comment is 'where do we draw the line'? I'm sure some people would say draw it at your self and fuck everyone else, and I'm sure others would give all they have to help others. For me it's about using reason. Changing my diet, or buying different cosmetics/clothes is a reasonable demand if some others' life is at stake. And by all scientific paramteres, an animal is an other.
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
well, thegillotine. If being kind and compassionate isn't good enough a reason. How about that its healthier for you. and I mean physically healthier.
Eating animal based products, particulary red meat and pork, has been proven to cause things like heart disease and colon cancer.
veganism is also cleaner for the planet, animal agriculture and factory farming sucks up an exorbitant amount of resources, like water, and produces even more pollution
WildlifeDen 1 year ago
'give me a rational(no morals) reason to give up meat?'
elevated risks (ranging from 20% to 60%) were evident for esophageal, colorectal, liver, and lung cancer, comparing individuals in the highest with those in the lowest quintile of red meat intake. Cross, Amanda (2007). "A Prospective Study of Red and Processed Meat Intake in Relation to Cancer Risk". PLoS Medicine (the Public Library of Science) 4 (12): e325.
u can find thousands of other reasons with a scientific database...
Chrisisms 1 year ago
:'(
depthlessabyss 2 years ago
this is the most beautiful video i've ever seen. i really mean that. i can't feel anything but sadness now.
birthnight 2 years ago
This is the most moving video I've seen on the subject. You showed the beauty and majesty of the world we live in and the other animals we share it with. That is far more powerful than simply showing streams of the horror images. Thank you so very much :(
birthnight 2 years ago
When a human being becomes comfortable with killing and/or torturing animals humanity is lost. And who is say animals don't have souls. Who guards the gates to heaven............ and the lion will lay with the lamb.
ScarlettKnights 2 years ago
kawii ya humans are pretitors so y is it wrong when we kill animals for rood and other animals kill and it aint wrong? and try growing enuph food to suport the human race it cant be done!
gary77777778888888 2 years ago
Gary77,Other animals don't have an understanding of morality and so aren't demanded to stick by moral rules - that would be pointless (as it also is with children and a lot of mentally disabled adults).The point is we can eat more healthily and easily without killing other humans/animals,and so don't need to cause such suffering or death-so morally we shouldn't, that's the bottom line. Similarly eating plant based products is much more efficient than eating animals and so more people can be fed.
xAnimalxRightsx 2 years ago
Its such a wonderful video!
I hope, that one day every cage is open!
Until every cage is open, I want to fight!
natija08 3 years ago 2
Why is it that animals must have souls for us to give them moral consideration? That they can suffer is enough. It's an impossible trick to ask that we only regard those with souls as having "rights". It's impossible to prove the existence of a soul. Therefore, we can, as superior humans - claim that we possess (this invisable, unprovable quality)and animals do not. Therefore - we justify exploiting them. That they can suffer is the axiom. Be Vegan.
beaelliott 3 years ago
If animals dont have souls , then why do they dream?
if animals dont have souls , then why do we feel bad when they suffer?
If they dont have souls we would not cry for them or feel for them in anyway
quisqueyatv 3 years ago
Well done, xAnimalxRightsx! Some very beautiful photos in there. I'm with you the whole way on this. And I'm sure your videos are helping to sharpen sensitivity towards our animal friends. Thanks, and keep up the great work!
BeautyLoveLogicPeace 3 years ago 4
animals we buy in a store are farmed raised to be killed and eaten. I would like to see animal abuse and poaching down but if I eat a steak it is no different than a lion hunting down and eating a an antelope. Also many humans would die if it weren't for animal testing.
lolo2556 3 years ago
It is quite different as a lion can't differentiate between right or wrong - just because one species does it, we shouldn't base our human morality on it else the world would be in even more of a state than its in now! From what i know of animal testing in my research - it's, on the whole, based on tradition and not cost or time-effective techniques anymore. Obviously this doesn't even touch on the vital fact that a life is a life - human or non-human.
xAnimalxRightsx 3 years ago
Also if animals were farmed humanely rather than pumped full of growth hormones and not allowed to exercise or even be outside at all and then killed the second they reach maturity then there wouldn't be so much of a problem, hunting is natural, torture and genetic modification is not.
Tarontis 3 years ago
Well i imagine there would be less of a problem, but 'hunting being natural' is hardly an argument for it being right. So many human natural urges are condemned, it would be odd to use nature as a marker of morality. Most would say we should use moral code to judge our natural instincts, not so much the other way around - else the world would be chaotic.
xAnimalxRightsx 3 years ago
Rape is also natural. Cannibalism is also natural. Murder is also natural. Just because it is natural does not mean it is morally just.
goingemoguy 3 years ago 6
'hunting is natural'
For predators.
Humans have no predator reflexes.
Humans are naturally repulsed by the thought of even killing.
Humans, unlike natural carnivores, can't even digest meat properly. Humans lack the uricase enzyme so instead of uric acid being an antioxidant, uric acid actually causes cancer as a xenobiotic. Humans risk cancer from the type of iron in meat as well, heme iron. Humans lack the NeuG5c gene too so meat causes cancer by that route, etc.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
In hunting, the prey has some chance of escape. The meat market is not hunting, it is slaughter
sparkles510 3 years ago 2
human are animals too... and that includes you
how would you feel if you are locked up and you have many different cruel experiments done to you??
how would you feel if you are abused by another animal?
how would you feel if you were the animal on the dinner table??
kawaii7 2 years ago 2
For a truly shocking video of a fox hunt in action watch?v=TiDSO5yYHY0
PhantomDog666 1 year ago
this video really shows u what is really happening to animals these days!!
paramore13rocks 3 years ago
five stars!! Excellent video!! It gives me such hope and joy, even after witnessing what horrendous things humanity has done to the world, to see other people who are just as dedicated as I am to ending it. We battled racism, we battled sexism, and now we're battling speciesism - and we ARE making progress.
punkveganwizrocker 3 years ago 2
what was happening to the monkey?
mpa350z 3 years ago
The one being held across a table? I don't remember exactly (i have to get through a lot of hurrendous pictures for different videos/events), but certainly some sort of animal experimentation. Think it was a PETA (or BUAV) investigation that caught it on tape, the picture in this video is a still from that. if anyone is interested it's all on:
covancecruelty (dot) com
xAnimalxRightsx 3 years ago
Another good video... thanks for posting!! Wow, it brings up some very thought-provoking points that most animal abusers/meat-eaters never even stop to consider... all beings, whether they be a child or a chicken or a mouse, still feels pain and is a "somebody" in the world.
peepchick101 3 years ago 2
that specisim part is totally true and i have always thougt like that since i can remeber and it seems crazy for anyone to think diffrently. i have to say you rock good job on the vid. it feels nice to know other people think this way.
Jokersfishy 3 years ago 2
Great reasoning dude...Who is doing the narration part?
deepakpsoman 4 years ago
They are excerts from Tom Regan and Richard Ryder speeches, you can find the whole one's on youtube aswell (in the related videos box)
xAnimalxRightsx 4 years ago