Short nose moment of these birds makes this a tricky beast to land without power. Only 2 important friends in this situation. Altitude to gain air speed, without air speed, very prone to tip stall, etc and then your nuts are toast. Well done Mate !!
John Penny was one of my Father's Squadron Mates are the Air Force Academy. He's an exceptional Pilot with lots of time in different aircraft-Flew Fighters in the Air Force and also taught at Edwards AFB Test Pilot School. Wouldn't have anyone else flying RARE BEAR than him.
That would suck if Rare Bear crashed! That plane is famous. It should be able to retire to a museum someday. SOMEday...not anytime soone I hope. Planes belong in flying condition, or they ain't planes! I guess it would be a way to go out with a flash and a bang, but it'd still be sad. Oh, and the pilot too. (Just kidding, so don't kill me, please)
@Chuckjagermeister It is because of the clipped wing - it's not a standard Bearcat. Also, he needs to come in nose-high, or he hits the prop on the ground.
@CaptainRon1913 If you think you have better information, please quote someone. I have been following that plane for many years, and the information I have been given is that the flaps were welded shut. It is MUCH easier, and a WHOLE lot cheaper to weld flaps shut for better aerodynamics that try and build a new wing. To that I would say 'your funny' (misspelling to match yours)
@SharisStudio Well, your (you're) not quoting anyone either. Flaps are not "shut", they are extended or retracted. Taking a welding machine to an aluminum wing is ridicules. Since they remove a few feet off the wingtips, they would rebuild the flap section of the wing before taking a welding torch to it. You could be right, but as a pilot myself for the last 30 years, it doesn't sound right to me,
I don't thing they are worried too much about expense. lol
That is John Penny. The guy is amazing. At Reno 2008, he had an emergency on almost every flight of the Rare Bear, and he brought it in safe every time.
I have flown ultralights for nearly 20 years,,,most of them older ultralights,,,I have had at least 20 deadsticks for various reasons. Sometimes they almost seem the norm,,,,but sometimes,,,it can definately be a tight squeeze.
I find it extraordinary that some seem to think doing a dead stick landing in a 7 ton highly modified, high performance piston engine fighter is easy! Idiots who know precisely nothing about flying - I've done a dead stick landing and it was terrifying even with the training!
you're an idiot, and you're lying. What the rare bear pilot did was hard, but dadstick landings are not. Quit trying to act like you know what you're talking about, and go away.
Good thought... What I understand, is that the high performance engine could have been damaged if what you describe was done. He had one shot, and nailed it!
@THEMAN080 actually this can cause damage. Fuel can be lodged in different parts of the engine fuel that is not burned such as the head of the cylinder the exhuast stack and can cause damage as far as to blow a cylinder head off or blow an exhaust stack completely off. The only time I have ever heard this COULD be used during an emergency is when the Carburetor gets so much ice that it kills the engine. then this procedure used is supposed to loosen the ice enough to let the engine breath.
this year it did, i watched it today. (sunday, 14 08) it had smoke coming out of its engine and i think it already called 2 may days this season if im not mistaken. and the dago red didn't win this year! one of te mustangs one this year, teh gold
see the bear after it landed, there was metal chunks in the oil that leaked out all over the fuselage and wings, when the mechanic took out the piston it was in 25 different pieces lol
Make no mistake: he was coming in on the proverbial "wing and a prayer". High wing loading, no power---it was a one-shot deal, and he nailed it. Beautiful.
In short... After winning the final race, he found that his throttle was stuck open, so he couldn't throttle down to land. He actually had to shut the engine off to land the plane.
Short nose moment of these birds makes this a tricky beast to land without power. Only 2 important friends in this situation. Altitude to gain air speed, without air speed, very prone to tip stall, etc and then your nuts are toast. Well done Mate !!
FOscum 9 months ago
Most people there did not don't know what preil he was in. He made the landing look easy, it was anything but.
TheNevadasky 10 months ago
If he killed the engine, Wouldnt that stop windmilling just as the air speed dropped at touch down. The engine looks like it was at idle.
jimnrel 1 year ago
ALLL SKILLL!
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
deadstick in a plane is not all its cracked up to be
1littlelee 1 year ago
John Penny was one of my Father's Squadron Mates are the Air Force Academy. He's an exceptional Pilot with lots of time in different aircraft-Flew Fighters in the Air Force and also taught at Edwards AFB Test Pilot School. Wouldn't have anyone else flying RARE BEAR than him.
rps5299 1 year ago
That would suck if Rare Bear crashed! That plane is famous. It should be able to retire to a museum someday. SOMEday...not anytime soone I hope. Planes belong in flying condition, or they ain't planes! I guess it would be a way to go out with a flash and a bang, but it'd still be sad. Oh, and the pilot too. (Just kidding, so don't kill me, please)
justforever96 1 year ago
For a smaller than usual fighter of that era it sure needs a hot approach speed without flaps. What is that 125 knots?
Chuckjagermeister 2 years ago
@Chuckjagermeister It is because of the clipped wing - it's not a standard Bearcat. Also, he needs to come in nose-high, or he hits the prop on the ground.
jasmine2501 1 year ago
err dose that thing have flaps?
bamsawa 2 years ago
I believe that the flaps have been welded shut for better aerodynamics.
SharisStudio 2 years ago
@SharisStudio thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard learn why he wouldnt use flaps on a deadstick because hydraulics are engine driven
worldinflames11 1 year ago
@worldinflames11 As I mentioned before, that plane has no flaps.
SharisStudio 1 year ago 3
@SharisStudio "welded shut", lol,, your funny. if they need to not have flaps, they would make a new wing. The wings are shorted anyway.
CaptainRon1913 5 months ago
@CaptainRon1913 If you think you have better information, please quote someone. I have been following that plane for many years, and the information I have been given is that the flaps were welded shut. It is MUCH easier, and a WHOLE lot cheaper to weld flaps shut for better aerodynamics that try and build a new wing. To that I would say 'your funny' (misspelling to match yours)
SharisStudio 5 months ago
@SharisStudio Well, your (you're) not quoting anyone either. Flaps are not "shut", they are extended or retracted. Taking a welding machine to an aluminum wing is ridicules. Since they remove a few feet off the wingtips, they would rebuild the flap section of the wing before taking a welding torch to it. You could be right, but as a pilot myself for the last 30 years, it doesn't sound right to me,
I don't thing they are worried too much about expense. lol
CaptainRon1913 5 months ago
@SharisStudio Also, the millions of dollars they spend on these machines, they wouldn't be doing a hack job on the wings
CaptainRon1913 5 months ago
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Macsgrafs 2 years ago
That isn't a f**king cessna. Any SAFE emergency landing in one of those high-performance tail-draggers is worth clapping for.
SpenzOT 2 years ago
If thats John Penny he has more flight time in that airplane than anyone except for possibly Lyle Shelton
kingair81r 2 years ago
That is John Penny. The guy is amazing. At Reno 2008, he had an emergency on almost every flight of the Rare Bear, and he brought it in safe every time.
SharisStudio 2 years ago
no wonder that plane won those races, its nuthing but engine!
angryace13 2 years ago 3
nice work...
...keep them flying...
P214Stearman 2 years ago
Yep well done that man! glad your safe
gopherbar 2 years ago
Does anybody know about the landing speed in this video? It looked like the Bear was as fast as the Space Shuttle when touching town.
N777L 2 years ago
Probably wanted to conserve airspeed since he was dropping like a rock .
He did a great job .
skink5150 2 years ago
I have flown ultralights for nearly 20 years,,,most of them older ultralights,,,I have had at least 20 deadsticks for various reasons. Sometimes they almost seem the norm,,,,but sometimes,,,it can definately be a tight squeeze.
tailwheelflier 3 years ago
I find it extraordinary that some seem to think doing a dead stick landing in a 7 ton highly modified, high performance piston engine fighter is easy! Idiots who know precisely nothing about flying - I've done a dead stick landing and it was terrifying even with the training!
Wanobi99 3 years ago 3
you're an idiot, and you're lying. What the rare bear pilot did was hard, but dadstick landings are not. Quit trying to act like you know what you're talking about, and go away.
b1cc2 2 years ago
nice landing
gaara1007 3 years ago
couldnt he have just "flown it in on the mags"? by turning the mags on and off you can control the approach in a normal plane....
m=might be a bit different with this beast :P
THEMAN080 3 years ago
Good thought... What I understand, is that the high performance engine could have been damaged if what you describe was done. He had one shot, and nailed it!
SharisStudio 3 years ago
@THEMAN080 actually this can cause damage. Fuel can be lodged in different parts of the engine fuel that is not burned such as the head of the cylinder the exhuast stack and can cause damage as far as to blow a cylinder head off or blow an exhaust stack completely off. The only time I have ever heard this COULD be used during an emergency is when the Carburetor gets so much ice that it kills the engine. then this procedure used is supposed to loosen the ice enough to let the engine breath.
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
Rare Bear had no problems this year!
OMGLysses 3 years ago
yeah, because it barely flew!!!!
poptartpencil 3 years ago
this year it did, i watched it today. (sunday, 14 08) it had smoke coming out of its engine and i think it already called 2 may days this season if im not mistaken. and the dago red didn't win this year! one of te mustangs one this year, teh gold
hawker445 3 years ago
see the bear after it landed, there was metal chunks in the oil that leaked out all over the fuselage and wings, when the mechanic took out the piston it was in 25 different pieces lol
pyropig7 3 years ago
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so, he simply did a dead stick landing, where exactly is the talent in that?
ParadigmaticShift 3 years ago
Make no mistake: he was coming in on the proverbial "wing and a prayer". High wing loading, no power---it was a one-shot deal, and he nailed it. Beautiful.
hoggdawn 3 years ago
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I would have shit my pants if I were in that cockpit!!!
Irvine5312x6ma 3 years ago
Im not so good in english,so ,what hapened?
gio31brasil 4 years ago
In short... After winning the final race, he found that his throttle was stuck open, so he couldn't throttle down to land. He actually had to shut the engine off to land the plane.
SharisStudio 4 years ago
No offense guys but did anyone out there really think John wouldn't stick the landing.
sundog47 4 years ago 4
@sundog47 man. you neve know with reno hehehe
straighttailpilot 1 year ago
seen this beauty have more damn may days in reno than i need to. since the early 90s he has never had good years
batlinbear 4 years ago
You are kidding right??
sundog47 4 years ago
The best half wheel, half three point landing I've ever seen !!!
chinagilb 4 years ago
In a word - Talent.
n17ny 4 years ago 3
nice video. i was there too and it was the most intense finish i've ever seen. fly fast and left...
sewajermax 4 years ago
so was i section 3 for life
gaypplreadthis 3 years ago
Skill at its very best use!
Scrapsterone 4 years ago
Very nice!
kitam1 4 years ago