Professor Rosling is an ecstatic raving lunatic that by fantastic oratories and revelations document truth just as easy and convincing as the most fundametalistic believers of totally different categories.
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I have watched dozens of these TED Talks and this guy makes sense with his data. I realize that you can do anything you want with data, but when you look at the world, this is what you see, just not graphically represented. We need to get over egocentrism, the world is closing in.
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He tells amazing things, really inmportant and intelligent and people are like 'ok' but the moment this man swallows a blade everyone is like OMG LOOK AT THAT.
Quite a good insight... economic power is the means but not the goal... But sadly, most of the ones power... sees these as the both the goal and means because of their greed and desire of maintaining the status quo... They better listen to this man, he's got a point...
I'm from a so called emerging country, Brazil. If you check the HDI of my country today, it's not very diffrent from an average european country forty years ago.
The world is getting better as a whole. And if we find a way to replace fossil fuels, and we don't get in stupid, endless wars, it will continue to do so.
@rurede4dis It was an argument for his theory. He said that the seamingly (sorry for bad english) possible is possible. That means that just because you havn't seen it, it doesn't have to be impossible. Just because you havn't seen a man swallow a sword, doesn't mean it's impossible to do so. In other words, he is saying that we can change the world, even though it looks pretty bad.
I am using the gapminder website but I can't recreate the part (from 4:25) where he has one country (US) moving through time but the rest of the world remain in place. How do I do that?
He should have been a salesman because he is very convincing naturally it's quite simplistic. Like Murphy said "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something"
WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
@labonka he's not making that assumption. the only assumption made would be that economic growth does increase over time. of course there could be a world war 3 that brings the whole world to a stop but if you are making those sort of assumptions you might as well just say fuck all and do nothing.
@noiserrr You know there's no way to predict economy, that's just impossible. So he might just as well say that his lottery ticket will make everyone rich. That the world develops is of course good, but his calculations are just euphoric.
@noiserrr Imagine I went to a company and started to say that this company will develop 2% every year for the next 50 years and then rip off my shirt because I am so happy of my "proofs". Everyone would ask what the heck are you on about? He is manic.
We don't own our money, the banks does. Therefore they own us.
And sorry about the word lying, he simply manipulates and perceives us.
When you put a spell on someone, it's simply to spell. Meaning that words are magic, it's pure power. Any one listening to the wrong guy will believe in what he says as long as he uses fine rhetoric and body language as well as showing human attributes.
They play with our suppressed feelings.String holder
Hes a big time bullshitter. With modeling you can make anything look good. That does not mean its true. Just like Al Gores Hockey stick diagram of global warming. It's all tampered with, and we buy in to it.
It's hard not to because he is really intense energetic and funny.
I would say hes got it all wrong. It's the other way.
We have never had more slavery than today, and yes there is a interest of the masters to make slaves live long time, it has nothing to do with better world but EFFICIENCY
I think so many westerners don't believe what anyone says about the emerging economies until they see them with their own eyes. Everyone knows that China and India are experiencing temendous growth but until you see it for yourself, you don't believe it. Especially when so many western media sources are spinning news stories against China and India, China in particular.
It really seems like this is the only YouTube video where MOST of the commenters aren't posting ideological rubbish and saying stupid shit like "this guy is lying because he's socialist/capitalist". Is it because most people who would watch this video are smarter than the average youtuber or is it because Hans rosling's presentation is so amazing it shuts all the partisan flamebreathers and pessimists down?
It´s a need to think about the climate change in the everyday life. What is progress and what will the cost be? What happens if everyone that is poor will adapt our way of life? How shall we change our way to live?
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Here is what I envision it.
It is the B.R.I.C country will lead the world. American and Europe time is done, finished as written in the bible. It is a prophecy that is happening today.
BRIC is:
Brazil
Russia
India
China
These are the country that will rise up. And at the year 2040+ I think China will be the superior country. America and Europe is total gone.
Of course Japan will rise up too but it will stay the same level as American and Europe.
i think europeans and americans are way too creative to just step off the throne.
sure, the future of agriculture, industry, and simple services is in the BRIC and other fast develpoers, but europe, america, and japan always have the advantage of high education levels, political liberty, and free information.
i think all of this will make the previously mentioned countries centers of media, culture, social studies, and really high technology.
He is trying to change our steryotype about developing countries and L.E.D.Cs. Developing countries are rising in the health and quality of live areas while L.E.D.Cs are doing well when compared to where they are coming from. He also makes important points about the development of any nation highlighting the importance of setting a goal of better health and culture and acheiving it through economic growth and governance.
that's true, because of the laissez faire policy before the progressive era, an average man in the State could only live up to 44 years. And now the conservatives are still dumber than ever, asking for that time of laissez faire back.
The most fascinating about all of this is that his affirmations, conclusions and hopes about the future of poverty around the world are based on data, not on some abstract speculative historical theory.
@labonka I think there's a considerable distance between being able to gather a good amount of information about the effects of a very complex problem and being able to actually solve it. Inversely, the fact the a country can be considered nonfunctional in some aspects doesn't mean it can't provide statistics about it. In Brazil, for instance, we have social indicators provided by federal statistics since the 30's.
@jcgalad Very rarely do you prove something with only statistics since measurable objectives can have very complex causul explanations. Perhaps he shouldn't jump to such euphoric conclusions yet and remove his shirt and all.....
@llothar68 Well, considering the pace of change to evaluate where we'll be in the future seems reasonable to me. Of course something else might happen, a big asteroid can fall and extinguish life on Earth, for example. Yet, Rosling sounds more realist to me than those who, because of some ideological conviction, just wait for capitalism to collapse.
I do believe that the world is getting better, I cant stand pessimists saying otherwise. I think Hans Rossler has proved my point many times and I think what he says is absolute genius. The largest problem I belive is climate change, It is so obvious that the damage we are doing to the atmosphere is very real, and we should definatley be doing alot more about it to benefit us in the long term.
Please forget proper grammar. Think a little bigger than an average american!!! He´s a genious! Thanks to people like him you can continue with your desperate hunt of power! In the near future people with his opinion will rule the world so please shut up......PLEASE!!! USA is not good for our future!!
Well, that pretty much blows up "Austrian economics." All those countries dramatically improved their people's lives with economies using fiat money, not some obsolete "gold standard."
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Wealth can't accurately be measured in dollar. Why? Because of inflation so a dollar 1915 is worth roughly a fifty times more then in 2007. So according to the price of gold you have a 4% inflation of the dollar every year. "1913 versus today, it was $20.64 whereas it's been roughly $900 this year [2009]"
That will show that no the third world nations is not just getting up to our standard but we getting down to theirs.
Now this video and the one from last year by Hans Rosling shows in graphic detail the issues regarding global warming/climate change (albeit misnamed I think) -- but the issues do come to life here in these graphs. The devil IS in the details. Thank you Hans Rosling.
His bubble for the US seems to improve around 1973 when US abortion became legal. Getting rid of troublesome babies via abortion would reduce the number of "born" babies dying.
"Grandma data" would include that women's perceptions about birthing babies changed dramactically about then. I lived thru that era.
Abortions do not effect infant mortality rate but what the US considers as a live child does. The US standards of a living child are different than Australia's and other developed and industrialized countries. Many critics say child mortality and life expectancy are not a efficient ways to measure a nations health care standards because they are effected by many confounding variables.
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hans din kärring! våga kritisera ett vidrigt system. dina nylibirala tok. du har inget stöd från osspå ks. du vet vad man säger om statistik. du säger bara det makten vill höra.
However I must partially disagree on India's PM CO2 statement. CO2 per Capita is baised towards the countries with high population growth rate, like India. And it is precisely population growth the main driver of CO2 consumption, much more than Consumption per capita. So while the developed countries must reduce its consumption, developing countries must urgently enforce population control measures, even if it has to be China's one-child-policy.
surely thats hypocritical when America (don't kno if ur American I'm not but only stat i kno) creates 20% of CO2 with a population well below 20% of the world, the country with that kind of population is of course China. And surely it's a dark day when we value human rights so low that we encourage policys where by familys killed thousands of babies, I'm no journalist but i thought in China loads of families were so upset there one was a girl they just got rid of them
Volcanoes around the world produce (total) around 200 million tons of CO2 each year.
Human activity, in 2006, produced around 25 billion tons - 100x times more than all the volcanoes in the world, the very same year.
Stop posting rubbish and get your facts straight. I understand some people disregard climate change, but you cannot simply fabricate facts to advocate your beliefs.
As I posted on the exact same video: Great idea, too bad it is linked to the ever common manipulation of data. It will take statistical analysis to determine the data's meaning, but you cannot have it without the data. Take for example his first table with family size to life expectancy. I can guarantee just because the US has smaller families it has less to do with life expectancy than a lot of other factors, gdp/capita only being one of those. Otherwise, I like the presentation.
I don't think he's saying there's a causal relationship between life expectancy and family size. There is a correlation that we can see just by looking at the graphed data, and that's all he's saying. He chose those two factors because they are often assumed to be some of the biggest differences between 1st and 3rd world countries. "Manipulation of data" is interpretation. It's only bad when the manipulation is intended to decieve, which isn't happening here.
The choices do show a definate social iimprovement for sure, although I'd pefer more on how the money is split wth in countries I like the way this guy is so genuinly enthusiastic it really counters the cynicism ive always had. However Statistical malpractice is always a danger the WTO for example was sued by Trinadad and Tobago because it deliberately attempted to put them in to recession raises some serious questions about the culture of our statisticians surely.
awesome !! .. been waiting to see another talk of his for a while since his last superb one. He does not dissapoint. Grandma statistics.. a whole new level of validation.. lol. Cant wait for your next talk professor.
How can a guy not like that.... grandma stat....? Everything we do, live stems from what we guys remember and or are taught by others. That is just great for a guy to recognize his grand mama. Not having one in your own life, I personally am sorry. As you may be. My mommy/daddies mom's were just awesome, they told me what they were like as kids.... haha... Here I thought I was a terrorist..... gotz itz from themz.... Only helps, with how I treat my 10 year old, ...... humble.
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GDP per capita: Not an indicator of poverty.
Length of life: Not an indicator of poverty.
Infant mortality: Not an indicator of poverty.
Indicators of poverty: How many people have to live with one d0llar a day (without the inflation tax). Numbers are rising. But the superrich own 110 000 000 000 000 , 00 $. Bottom line: Watch the rise of poverty. And peak oil anyone? Nuclear weapons? D.U.? Hell...
You pretty much debunked yourself. Mean and Median give no information about the distribution of wealth, or inequality, and therefore poverty (and stinkin richness).
People can be very poor and still live long lives, especially when the infant mortality is low, which is the main factor of live expectancy. It says something about the availability of vaccines, about the health system, about culture, etc., but that does in no way equal poverty.
They don't give ALL the information, you would need to know exactly how many people are in each income range for that.
They do however tell a lot.
For example, A large difference between the average and median incomes indicates high inequality.
People CAN be poor and long-lived. But in GENERAL, money helps you live longer. There's a positive correlation between wealth and life expectancy if yuo want.
So if 50% of the population earns 9900 $ a month, and 50% of the population earns 100 $ a month, how do mean and median differ from a society where 100% earns 4500$ a month? And what is the difference between mean and median in that case?
You're creating an artificial example where mean and median match.
If one more person had 100$ a month, then the median would be 100$ a month.
(Oh and btw, the mean and median would be the same if everyone had 5000$ a month, not 4500).
In REAL LIFE, wealth distribution roughly follows a power law. The median gives a very good estimate of the wealth of "normal" people, because it isn't biased by the presence of a few super-rich people.
Obviously, having more than one quantile would be better.
I am not creating an artificial example, but you are claiming that all societies with inequality concerning the distribution of wealth are pyramidal. Just compare the two Apartheid regimes of Israel and South Africa: The percentage of people that is oppressed and impoverished due to racistic criteria is quite different. In South Africa, a small minority oppressed a vast majority (and some say, still does). In Israel, a majority oppresses a minority.
The choice of 50/50 is artificial. It's also unstable: the income of a single person can dramatically alter the median.
Racism in this case has a distorting effect on wealth distribution. But it's certainly not the only means to economic oppression. If you think that there are no poor jewish israelis you're wrong.
There's still a pyramidal structure that roughly follows a power law distribution.
See, you're getting circular here. If we'd measure correctly, then it could prove your point, while you don't want to measure correctly.
There are tons of tools to measure poverty, like variability, or a simple graph with x = personal property and y = number of people who own that amount of wealth.
It would be easy for the jerk in the vid to use one of these logical, simple and obvious benchmarks, but then of course his laughable propaganda would be exposed as the joke that it is.
Anyway, things depend a lot on your definition of wealth.
IMHO, a person living in a communist country who has access to clean water, housing, infrastructure for education and transport etc, but has no private property is wealthyer than someone with a wad of 1$ bills dying of cholera in a slum because there's no sewers.
It makes much more sense to measure inequality in quality of life than in money terms.
Anyway, what do you suggest using? Standard deviation of wealth? Kurtosis?
"Indicators of poverty: How many people have to live with one d0llar a day (without the inflation tax). Numbers are rising. But the superrich own 110 000 000 000 000 , 00 $. Bottom line: Watch the rise of poverty."
Bottom-line: It would really really really help if you would start to learn to read - and think.
The "one dollar a day" poverty line is pretty arbitrary.
Also, it doesn't work well if you want to compare different countries where the purchasing power of an american dollar can have a different order of magnitude.
But yeah sure, it's an acceptable criterion.
I can't remember what we're debating though. I thought it was the fact that in your opinion pro-capita GDP life expectancy etc carried no information about the population's wealth... but it seems to have changed.
So the fact that more and more people live with less than a d0llar per day is not a sign of increasing poverty and inequality, but of the DECREASING purchasing power of the d0llar in the same time span?
If you can't remember what we're debating, then read it. GDP/capita, life expectancy, infant mortality isn't able to measure poverty.
this was the most pointless TED i've seen so far. i get that his making an "inspirational" speech- but i we get inspired from TED because of what we see not because we are told to be so.
I think that software is specially made for the UN, he talked about it being available as a beta version (the state before making it GA (generally available)) online, so I guess you'll find it there.
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Professor Rosling ist eine ekstatische jumping Verrückter, die mit fanatischem Oratorien und
Offenbarungen dokumentiert Wahrheiten so einfach und überzeugend wie die meisten fundamentalistischen Gläubigen aller anderen Kategorien.
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Professor Rosling is an ecstatic raving lunatic that by fantastic oratories and revelations document truth just as easy and convincing as the most fundametalistic believers of totally different categories.
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Professor Rosling er en ekstatisk hoppende gærning som med fanatiske oratorier og åpenbaringer dokumenterer sannheter like lett og overbevisende som de mest fundamentalistisk troende av helt andre kategorier.
flyvefisken 3 weeks ago
This intro is much fucking better than the current one.
lovingboarding 4 weeks ago
This is brilliant..
Normally I can find a fault to argue on anything; but this guy has his shit wrapped up tighter then a vacuum sealed brick of BC Bud...
learrus 1 month ago
What software he is using?
MrPEDOCTOR 2 months ago
@MrPEDOCTOR it's gapminder, google it to find it, it's free.
dragonbeary 1 month ago
These are great stats :D does anyone know the website he used there so I can cite it in my own academic papers?? thanks!
roymondous 2 months ago
- - - Anyone know what the software he is using? - - -
TheRobinL 2 months ago in playlist Hans Rosling
@TheRobinL gapminder. its free and you can get it off his website.
riskitake 2 months ago
The seemingly impossible is possible. It is a matter of WILL!
amvetica 2 months ago
I have watched dozens of these TED Talks and this guy makes sense with his data. I realize that you can do anything you want with data, but when you look at the world, this is what you see, just not graphically represented. We need to get over egocentrism, the world is closing in.
phitchr 2 months ago
his fucking wifebeater
it doesn't cover his nipples up
oh my god
xKanden15x 3 months ago
What an incredible person
crudhousefull 3 months ago in playlist More videos from TEDtalksDirector
I REALLY wish poverty and hunger would be ended in our lifetime. Just like this guy said, we can change it.
Gammodore 4 months ago
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MrDespo3 4 months ago
fantastic!
sameerpatel105 6 months ago
:))))
GeracaodeValor 6 months ago
He tells amazing things, really inmportant and intelligent and people are like 'ok' but the moment this man swallows a blade everyone is like OMG LOOK AT THAT.
O well, Hans Rosling is amazing.
Robinzorz 7 months ago
Quite a good insight... economic power is the means but not the goal... But sadly, most of the ones power... sees these as the both the goal and means because of their greed and desire of maintaining the status quo... They better listen to this man, he's got a point...
EarthForces 8 months ago
Check out Gapminder (dot) com this guy's website. They give you acess to all of these interactive graphics, it's fantastic!
luizcadu 8 months ago
I'm from a so called emerging country, Brazil. If you check the HDI of my country today, it's not very diffrent from an average european country forty years ago.
The world is getting better as a whole. And if we find a way to replace fossil fuels, and we don't get in stupid, endless wars, it will continue to do so.
luizcadu 8 months ago 3
I think the sword was a good way to make people remember him and his ideas. xD
madichelp0 9 months ago
lol @ 14:17 and getting serious XD
Zandaa 9 months ago
Free trade for prosperity, for all!
Jotto999 10 months ago
I love this guy but i mean... Why did he swallow a sword?
rurede4dis 10 months ago
@rurede4dis It was an argument for his theory. He said that the seamingly (sorry for bad english) possible is possible. That means that just because you havn't seen it, it doesn't have to be impossible. Just because you havn't seen a man swallow a sword, doesn't mean it's impossible to do so. In other words, he is saying that we can change the world, even though it looks pretty bad.
Inayfsn 10 months ago
Hans Rosling is really a national treasure. =)
enevighet17 1 year ago
I am using the gapminder website but I can't recreate the part (from 4:25) where he has one country (US) moving through time but the rest of the world remain in place. How do I do that?
falconsgladiator 1 year ago
where can i find the program he's using? i want to see the statistics!
Ramsez 1 year ago
@Ramsez google gapminder
Lorn4815162342 1 year ago
@Lorn4815162342 thanks bro!! works great!
Ramsez 1 year ago
2:09 life expectancy will be well above 80 in the west by 2050.
Ramsez 1 year ago
He should have been a salesman because he is very convincing naturally it's quite simplistic. Like Murphy said "If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something"
labonka 1 year ago
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WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
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WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
bergslag 1 year ago
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WHERE IS THE NEW INSIGHT ??? DID I LEARN ANYTHING...NOOO..
AND COMPARING GNP PPP IS NOT THAT GOOD. the purching power is still low outside the country....and comparing china and japan is totally different.
You live to 79years in china, 82 in sweden...but 10 times more die before reaching 5 years old in china...so THIS STUPID OLD MAN have to look at other data..he is just a troller
bergslag 1 year ago
Quite a simplistic model that assumes world economic growth to increase every year.... lol
labonka 1 year ago
@labonka he's not making that assumption. the only assumption made would be that economic growth does increase over time. of course there could be a world war 3 that brings the whole world to a stop but if you are making those sort of assumptions you might as well just say fuck all and do nothing.
noiserrr 1 year ago
@noiserrr You know there's no way to predict economy, that's just impossible. So he might just as well say that his lottery ticket will make everyone rich. That the world develops is of course good, but his calculations are just euphoric.
labonka 1 year ago
@labonka you obviously are not paying attention so ill stop payin attention to you.
noiserrr 1 year ago
@noiserrr Imagine I went to a company and started to say that this company will develop 2% every year for the next 50 years and then rip off my shirt because I am so happy of my "proofs". Everyone would ask what the heck are you on about? He is manic.
labonka 1 year ago
lol WHAT
wasdwasdedsf 10 months ago
@noiserrr Word brother.
StanleySweet14 1 year ago
@Veggie13
The catch however is, that this makes us slaves.
We don't own our money, the banks does. Therefore they own us.
And sorry about the word lying, he simply manipulates and perceives us.
When you put a spell on someone, it's simply to spell. Meaning that words are magic, it's pure power. Any one listening to the wrong guy will believe in what he says as long as he uses fine rhetoric and body language as well as showing human attributes.
They play with our suppressed feelings.String holder
Totalreformer 1 year ago
Hes a big time bullshitter. With modeling you can make anything look good. That does not mean its true. Just like Al Gores Hockey stick diagram of global warming. It's all tampered with, and we buy in to it.
It's hard not to because he is really intense energetic and funny.
I would say hes got it all wrong. It's the other way.
We have never had more slavery than today, and yes there is a interest of the masters to make slaves live long time, it has nothing to do with better world but EFFICIENCY
Totalreformer 1 year ago
@Totalreformer I'm sorry; what is he lying about? Pretty much everything he showed was data.
Veggie13 1 year ago
@Veggie13
Your right.
Depending on how you present the data and what data you leave out, the perception and result will be totally different.
The amount of happiness, of harmony and of love is far more important than life expectancy.
Who want to life 100 years when not having that?
He wants to show people that Capitalism is Good.
Not knowing that money is only debt.
All states is indebted to the world bank.
Swedes have 60.000 crowns in debt per person.
That's why we have high living standards
Totalreformer 1 year ago
Vi häf tu nåo a littel mår abaot de wörld.
AnubisMob 1 year ago 4
The end was so freaking unexpected...wtf...I love this guy, though.
Ledwix 1 year ago
I just love this guys accent.
salmanyafiz 1 year ago
@salmanyafiz
In Sweden we call this accent svengelska or swenglish..
ManicMindTrick 1 year ago
@salmanyafiz That's the Swedish accent for ya. that's how we sound when we speak English.
27sevenSToFo 1 year ago
We as Me as Canadians we need to know this , I can only hope My Government is listening to what this Men is saying ....
Kdawg270 1 year ago
I think so many westerners don't believe what anyone says about the emerging economies until they see them with their own eyes. Everyone knows that China and India are experiencing temendous growth but until you see it for yourself, you don't believe it. Especially when so many western media sources are spinning news stories against China and India, China in particular.
CanadianTuBaoZi 1 year ago
Nice try with the advert at the end TED, but no one is gonna sit and watch that.
Experiment47 1 year ago 2
This man is a legend!!
hifhif123 1 year ago 16
Hans Rosling's presentation is so inspiring and great that now we are made to do assignments based on his presentation...
sonam90ify 1 year ago 2
Hans Rosling is great, so inspiaring!
jowejo85 1 year ago
Hans Rolsing= most favorite current genius
xflyacrosstimex 1 year ago 3
It really seems like this is the only YouTube video where MOST of the commenters aren't posting ideological rubbish and saying stupid shit like "this guy is lying because he's socialist/capitalist". Is it because most people who would watch this video are smarter than the average youtuber or is it because Hans rosling's presentation is so amazing it shuts all the partisan flamebreathers and pessimists down?
natojacobs5 1 year ago 23
Hans Rosling has the funniest accent evar!!
TheAntoniak 1 year ago
yea, and thx, now my dads laughing histaricly because of it XD
Poof12303 1 year ago
Fantastic presentation!
It´s a need to think about the climate change in the everyday life. What is progress and what will the cost be? What happens if everyone that is poor will adapt our way of life? How shall we change our way to live?
FredrikPD 1 year ago 2
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Here is what I envision it.
It is the B.R.I.C country will lead the world. American and Europe time is done, finished as written in the bible. It is a prophecy that is happening today.
BRIC is:
Brazil
Russia
India
China
These are the country that will rise up. And at the year 2040+ I think China will be the superior country. America and Europe is total gone.
Of course Japan will rise up too but it will stay the same level as American and Europe.
permaline 2 years ago
i think europeans and americans are way too creative to just step off the throne.
sure, the future of agriculture, industry, and simple services is in the BRIC and other fast develpoers, but europe, america, and japan always have the advantage of high education levels, political liberty, and free information.
i think all of this will make the previously mentioned countries centers of media, culture, social studies, and really high technology.
6775077 1 year ago
@6775077 You clearly don't get the message, the world is going to be globalized, not divided.
simontja 1 year ago
@simontja it can be...both.
6775077 1 year ago
What exactly is the point he is trying to make? Is it anything other than knocking down a straw man about the world never getting better?
Mastabiff 2 years ago
He is trying to change our steryotype about developing countries and L.E.D.Cs. Developing countries are rising in the health and quality of live areas while L.E.D.Cs are doing well when compared to where they are coming from. He also makes important points about the development of any nation highlighting the importance of setting a goal of better health and culture and acheiving it through economic growth and governance.
yomamma12324 1 year ago
@Mastabiff To solve overpopulation you need to evolve all countrys, a developed country doesn't have a increasing population.
simontja 1 year ago
that's true, because of the laissez faire policy before the progressive era, an average man in the State could only live up to 44 years. And now the conservatives are still dumber than ever, asking for that time of laissez faire back.
tunefromafar 2 years ago
God! I love the Scandinavians!
hselika 2 years ago 2
Amazing presentation!!!
tokyocityrat 2 years ago 3
Hans Rosling is absolutely great! One of the best TED speakers.
Gytaz 2 years ago 4
What a hero!
rowanrockhopper2 2 years ago 2
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There are lies, bigger lies and statistic.
yohlly 2 years ago
The most fascinating about all of this is that his affirmations, conclusions and hopes about the future of poverty around the world are based on data, not on some abstract speculative historical theory.
PauloDeLimma 2 years ago 74
@PauloDeLimma I really hope that his data is correct, but ask yourself, would a nonfunction country provide accurate statistics?
labonka 1 year ago
@labonka I think there's a considerable distance between being able to gather a good amount of information about the effects of a very complex problem and being able to actually solve it. Inversely, the fact the a country can be considered nonfunctional in some aspects doesn't mean it can't provide statistics about it. In Brazil, for instance, we have social indicators provided by federal statistics since the 30's.
PauloDeLimma 1 year ago
@PauloDeLimma Yeah, but that data does sound abstract and speculative.
jcgalad 1 year ago
@jcgalad Very rarely do you prove something with only statistics since measurable objectives can have very complex causul explanations. Perhaps he shouldn't jump to such euphoric conclusions yet and remove his shirt and all.....
labonka 1 year ago
@labonka You know, I've been reading up recently and frankly - you're roght
jcgalad 1 year ago
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@labonka You know, I've been reading up recently and frankly, you're right.
jcgalad 1 year ago
@PauloDeLimma
But data of the past can tell you nothing about the data of the future and it doesn't really show you why.
llothar68 6 months ago
@llothar68 Well, considering the pace of change to evaluate where we'll be in the future seems reasonable to me. Of course something else might happen, a big asteroid can fall and extinguish life on Earth, for example. Yet, Rosling sounds more realist to me than those who, because of some ideological conviction, just wait for capitalism to collapse.
PauloDeLimma 5 months ago
I do believe that the world is getting better, I cant stand pessimists saying otherwise. I think Hans Rossler has proved my point many times and I think what he says is absolute genius. The largest problem I belive is climate change, It is so obvious that the damage we are doing to the atmosphere is very real, and we should definatley be doing alot more about it to benefit us in the long term.
BioChinga 2 years ago 4
Please forget proper grammar. Think a little bigger than an average american!!! He´s a genious! Thanks to people like him you can continue with your desperate hunt of power! In the near future people with his opinion will rule the world so please shut up......PLEASE!!! USA is not good for our future!!
Matte2023 2 years ago 6
Hans Rosling ...is Awesome, one of the more positive people who can provide a better outlook for our future ....
dhanur81 2 years ago 5
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too much swedish socialist/communist coloring of his views and outlook...
Court4123 2 years ago
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statistics can't be political!
knowthetoe 2 years ago
hahaha! Yay!
Hundpiraten 2 years ago
He's brilliant! And Swede ofcurse ;) :P
Xindea 2 years ago 5
Svårt att höra det var ^_^
Hundpiraten 2 years ago 3
Well, that pretty much blows up "Austrian economics." All those countries dramatically improved their people's lives with economies using fiat money, not some obsolete "gold standard."
conradjulian 2 years ago
Love this guy, he's great.
950horsepower 2 years ago 5
What does the size of each circle represent? Population? The data point represented is just the center of the circle, right?
KindaGamey 2 years ago 4
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apart from that co2 rubbish, very good presentation ;]
kombajndosalatek 2 years ago
wow such a fascinating graph with the knowledge of those statistics you could draw some really thought provoking conclusions i would assume
Ezplain 2 years ago
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Error:
Wealth can't accurately be measured in dollar. Why? Because of inflation so a dollar 1915 is worth roughly a fifty times more then in 2007. So according to the price of gold you have a 4% inflation of the dollar every year. "1913 versus today, it was $20.64 whereas it's been roughly $900 this year [2009]"
That will show that no the third world nations is not just getting up to our standard but we getting down to theirs.
Tetsuored 2 years ago
What a way to bring your point across! 6 stars indeed!
doloppost 2 years ago
Now this video and the one from last year by Hans Rosling shows in graphic detail the issues regarding global warming/climate change (albeit misnamed I think) -- but the issues do come to life here in these graphs. The devil IS in the details. Thank you Hans Rosling.
BambisMusings 2 years ago 3
I have seen about 20 of his presentation and I really didn't expected something like this.
faolitaruna 2 years ago
I like "grandma-verified" statistics!
straightsixstyle 2 years ago 3
Excellent presentation and enthusiasm.
hellomycognomen 2 years ago 3
6 stars
humanist7117 2 years ago 3
The guy is awesome! And swedish! And so am I! I gotta find out more about this guy....
ztawiz 2 years ago
I wonder if US abortions factor into his stats?
houseguy4 2 years ago
No, a child that hasnt been born cant die... statisticly.. since it never existed
ztawiz 2 years ago 6
i think not....why?
ddruff 2 years ago
His bubble for the US seems to improve around 1973 when US abortion became legal. Getting rid of troublesome babies via abortion would reduce the number of "born" babies dying.
"Grandma data" would include that women's perceptions about birthing babies changed dramactically about then. I lived thru that era.
houseguy4 2 years ago 4
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Englsih grammar?
kolpiku 2 years ago
Abortions do not effect infant mortality rate but what the US considers as a live child does. The US standards of a living child are different than Australia's and other developed and industrialized countries. Many critics say child mortality and life expectancy are not a efficient ways to measure a nations health care standards because they are effected by many confounding variables.
wwwdotLPdotorg 2 years ago
Grandma verified!
chazmeistro 2 years ago
Bring me my sword! lol
acetylslicylsyra 2 years ago 9
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hans din kärring! våga kritisera ett vidrigt system. dina nylibirala tok. du har inget stöd från osspå ks. du vet vad man säger om statistik. du säger bara det makten vill höra.
handskarav 2 years ago
Stunning Final!!
However I must partially disagree on India's PM CO2 statement. CO2 per Capita is baised towards the countries with high population growth rate, like India. And it is precisely population growth the main driver of CO2 consumption, much more than Consumption per capita. So while the developed countries must reduce its consumption, developing countries must urgently enforce population control measures, even if it has to be China's one-child-policy.
sysFail81 2 years ago
surely thats hypocritical when America (don't kno if ur American I'm not but only stat i kno) creates 20% of CO2 with a population well below 20% of the world, the country with that kind of population is of course China. And surely it's a dark day when we value human rights so low that we encourage policys where by familys killed thousands of babies, I'm no journalist but i thought in China loads of families were so upset there one was a girl they just got rid of them
selurbrainonebay 2 years ago
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1 big volcanic explotion producec more co2 than entire humanity throughout it's history, so..
really.. get interested in something more significant
kombajndosalatek 2 years ago
Ignorance is bliss.
Volcanoes around the world produce (total) around 200 million tons of CO2 each year.
Human activity, in 2006, produced around 25 billion tons - 100x times more than all the volcanoes in the world, the very same year.
Stop posting rubbish and get your facts straight. I understand some people disregard climate change, but you cannot simply fabricate facts to advocate your beliefs.
putakvospariucrlhs 2 years ago 61
Good idea. Let's do nothing because there are volcanoes! Smart!
kolpiku 2 years ago 4
@putakvospariucrlhs
Your comment was made 1 year ago so if you are still around...where did you get your statistics and other information?
andyrooney12 9 months ago
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ShinEmperor 3 months ago
Awesome.
jonmahoney04 2 years ago
As I posted on the exact same video: Great idea, too bad it is linked to the ever common manipulation of data. It will take statistical analysis to determine the data's meaning, but you cannot have it without the data. Take for example his first table with family size to life expectancy. I can guarantee just because the US has smaller families it has less to do with life expectancy than a lot of other factors, gdp/capita only being one of those. Otherwise, I like the presentation.
arliben 2 years ago
to arliben:
I don't think he's saying there's a causal relationship between life expectancy and family size. There is a correlation that we can see just by looking at the graphed data, and that's all he's saying. He chose those two factors because they are often assumed to be some of the biggest differences between 1st and 3rd world countries. "Manipulation of data" is interpretation. It's only bad when the manipulation is intended to decieve, which isn't happening here.
shiftyjake 2 years ago
The choices do show a definate social iimprovement for sure, although I'd pefer more on how the money is split wth in countries I like the way this guy is so genuinly enthusiastic it really counters the cynicism ive always had. However Statistical malpractice is always a danger the WTO for example was sued by Trinadad and Tobago because it deliberately attempted to put them in to recession raises some serious questions about the culture of our statisticians surely.
selurbrainonebay 2 years ago
genius, genius, genius, genius!!
this vid is as much inspirational as it is entertaining *sigh*
bmed19 2 years ago 2
Yay, we Austrians can produce numbers!
DontTouchMyTea 2 years ago 4
So can we swedes! Yippi!
Rexutron 2 years ago 4
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Xandramas0184 2 years ago
What software does he use?? I want it!!!
camikbnh 2 years ago
It's a type of software that he invented and sold to google
Rexutron 2 years ago
that was amazing...my jaw is on the floor
SultanOfHell 2 years ago
Could one say that the cultural R&D has been done by the earlier adopters which improves the efficiency of the developing countries' health?
Treknologist 2 years ago
Great job! very intresting views on global problems..
fagel13 2 years ago
Gotta say that was the most impressive finale I've seen on TED so far...
colle89 3 years ago 2
awesome !! .. been waiting to see another talk of his for a while since his last superb one. He does not dissapoint. Grandma statistics.. a whole new level of validation.. lol. Cant wait for your next talk professor.
stevenbunyan 3 years ago
How can a guy not like that.... grandma stat....? Everything we do, live stems from what we guys remember and or are taught by others. That is just great for a guy to recognize his grand mama. Not having one in your own life, I personally am sorry. As you may be. My mommy/daddies mom's were just awesome, they told me what they were like as kids.... haha... Here I thought I was a terrorist..... gotz itz from themz.... Only helps, with how I treat my 10 year old, ...... humble.
HarcourtMarketing 3 years ago
Way to make a point!
Can't for Hitchens and Dawkins to adopt his "culture".
adolthitler 3 years ago
how do you get serious?
you make powerpoint!
hahahah
soobybabe 3 years ago 4
We call that swenglish. My generation don't have that much accent but nvm he is awesome.
Sweden80Here 3 years ago 3
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GDP per capita: Not an indicator of poverty.
Length of life: Not an indicator of poverty.
Infant mortality: Not an indicator of poverty.
Indicators of poverty: How many people have to live with one d0llar a day (without the inflation tax). Numbers are rising. But the superrich own 110 000 000 000 000 , 00 $. Bottom line: Watch the rise of poverty. And peak oil anyone? Nuclear weapons? D.U.? Hell...
This guy is bullshitting for the Grand Prize.
trakkaton 3 years ago
"GDP per capita: Not an indicator of poverty."
It IS an indicator.
Sure, the median would be a better indicator... But the mean still gives you a decent picture in a single number.
(Inequality is rising tho....)
"Length of life: Not an indicator of poverty."
Wrong again.
Pretty good indicator of wealth, health care quality and nutritional conditions.
"Infant mortality: Not an indicator of poverty."
Hmmm....
Ok. Fair enough. It's mainly a cultural indicator. (education and hygene)
Paulginz 2 years ago
You pretty much debunked yourself. Mean and Median give no information about the distribution of wealth, or inequality, and therefore poverty (and stinkin richness).
People can be very poor and still live long lives, especially when the infant mortality is low, which is the main factor of live expectancy. It says something about the availability of vaccines, about the health system, about culture, etc., but that does in no way equal poverty.
trakkaton 2 years ago
Of course they give information.
All of those indicators give information.
They don't give ALL the information, you would need to know exactly how many people are in each income range for that.
They do however tell a lot.
For example, A large difference between the average and median incomes indicates high inequality.
People CAN be poor and long-lived. But in GENERAL, money helps you live longer. There's a positive correlation between wealth and life expectancy if yuo want.
Paulginz 2 years ago
So if 50% of the population earns 9900 $ a month, and 50% of the population earns 100 $ a month, how do mean and median differ from a society where 100% earns 4500$ a month? And what is the difference between mean and median in that case?
Waiting....waiting...
trakkaton 2 years ago
You're creating an artificial example where mean and median match.
If one more person had 100$ a month, then the median would be 100$ a month.
(Oh and btw, the mean and median would be the same if everyone had 5000$ a month, not 4500).
In REAL LIFE, wealth distribution roughly follows a power law. The median gives a very good estimate of the wealth of "normal" people, because it isn't biased by the presence of a few super-rich people.
Obviously, having more than one quantile would be better.
Paulginz 2 years ago
I am not creating an artificial example, but you are claiming that all societies with inequality concerning the distribution of wealth are pyramidal. Just compare the two Apartheid regimes of Israel and South Africa: The percentage of people that is oppressed and impoverished due to racistic criteria is quite different. In South Africa, a small minority oppressed a vast majority (and some say, still does). In Israel, a majority oppresses a minority.
trakkaton 2 years ago
The choice of 50/50 is artificial. It's also unstable: the income of a single person can dramatically alter the median.
Racism in this case has a distorting effect on wealth distribution. But it's certainly not the only means to economic oppression. If you think that there are no poor jewish israelis you're wrong.
There's still a pyramidal structure that roughly follows a power law distribution.
Paulginz 2 years ago
See, you're getting circular here. If we'd measure correctly, then it could prove your point, while you don't want to measure correctly.
There are tons of tools to measure poverty, like variability, or a simple graph with x = personal property and y = number of people who own that amount of wealth.
It would be easy for the jerk in the vid to use one of these logical, simple and obvious benchmarks, but then of course his laughable propaganda would be exposed as the joke that it is.
trakkaton 2 years ago
Variability in itself doesn't measure poverty.
If you have 100 people earning 5$, there's more poverty but less variability than if you have 99 peaople earning 6$ and one earning 1000000$.
Onse again, a graph can't be used in his presentation. He needs a single number.
Yes, there are tons of better tols to measure poverty than life expectancy. However, none of them is as simple and transparent as life expectancy.
Paulginz 2 years ago
Anyway, things depend a lot on your definition of wealth.
IMHO, a person living in a communist country who has access to clean water, housing, infrastructure for education and transport etc, but has no private property is wealthyer than someone with a wad of 1$ bills dying of cholera in a slum because there's no sewers.
It makes much more sense to measure inequality in quality of life than in money terms.
Anyway, what do you suggest using? Standard deviation of wealth? Kurtosis?
Paulginz 2 years ago
"Anyway, what do you suggest using?"
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"Indicators of poverty: How many people have to live with one d0llar a day (without the inflation tax). Numbers are rising. But the superrich own 110 000 000 000 000 , 00 $. Bottom line: Watch the rise of poverty."
Bottom-line: It would really really really help if you would start to learn to read - and think.
trakkaton 2 years ago
The "one dollar a day" poverty line is pretty arbitrary.
Also, it doesn't work well if you want to compare different countries where the purchasing power of an american dollar can have a different order of magnitude.
But yeah sure, it's an acceptable criterion.
I can't remember what we're debating though. I thought it was the fact that in your opinion pro-capita GDP life expectancy etc carried no information about the population's wealth... but it seems to have changed.
Paulginz 2 years ago
Arbitrary?
Did you really write "arbitrary"?
So the fact that more and more people live with less than a d0llar per day is not a sign of increasing poverty and inequality, but of the DECREASING purchasing power of the d0llar in the same time span?
If you can't remember what we're debating, then read it. GDP/capita, life expectancy, infant mortality isn't able to measure poverty.
trakkaton 2 years ago
Yes, one dollar a day is arbitrary. (well, it was actually chosen after a lot of research, but that's besides the point).
Why not use 2$ a day?
I didn't say anything about the decreasing or increasing purchasing power of the dollar w.r.t. time. Just that it changes between countries.
I insist that life expectancy is a better indicator.
If the government gives you free food, housing and healthcare but no cash benefits, you're better off than living on 1$ a day.
Paulginz 2 years ago
He is the best...
SgtDrDeath 3 years ago 5
Like I have any say in that when my government takes my money by force and uses it for bribeing bad governments.
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago 8
this guy is awesome..i love his presentations
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this was the most pointless TED i've seen so far. i get that his making an "inspirational" speech- but i we get inspired from TED because of what we see not because we are told to be so.
cubencis 3 years ago
Congrats Mr Rosling.
sirstretchalot 4 years ago
he surely proved his point
Sebastrum 4 years ago 7
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yes, the sword swallowing sold me. he is right.
Vanostran 3 years ago
You can realy hear he is from Sweden. Nice presentation!
thebigaquatic 4 years ago
jeez.. that might be the best presentaion i have EVER seen
fla0303 4 years ago
have you seen his first ted presentation? 'Debunking third-world myths'
rashad9607 3 years ago
WOW! indeed.
Just wondering if anybody knows what software was he using to do all the bubbles etc. It's interesting how he has presented the data.
gopsy77 4 years ago
he is using Flash (Flex environment)
imougy 3 years ago
It's called gapminder
darriuk 3 years ago
this is available to play with on the web.
thErusteDbunnY 3 years ago
I think that software is specially made for the UN, he talked about it being available as a beta version (the state before making it GA (generally available)) online, so I guess you'll find it there.
rythmic81 3 years ago
WOW!
672jtv 4 years ago
he says 'africa is like europe 100 years ago '- except, africa has aids everywhere right? i wish they had free health care
i like this presentation.
kathleenvh 4 years ago