Let no man(or the ignorant eg white) therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days.
Paul sure made a mess out of 7th Day Adventist teaching, and that's with only one verse!
Let no man(or the ignorant eg white) therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days.
Paul sure made a mess out of 7th Day Adventist teaching--how careless of the Holy Spirit!
Did Noe,Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep the sabbath as a commandment or as a tradition?Deut.5:3 stated that this covenant of the Law(4th one included) was made with Israel and not with their parents. Whats really the reason of the Law? Why the israelites were dispersed over the 4 points of the earth?Did they really observe the law?Why The Lord only enforce The Law of Moses on Isarel and not on the others kingdoms?Is ilicit to worship the Lord in other day rather than saturday?
@martlut I await your "debunking" my friend. So far all you have done is interpret quotes according to your own biased opinion.
The early church kept the seventh day Sabbath holy, none of the disciples were first day worshippers and most importantly our example, the example for all who would live holy, that is Christ, was certainly not a first day worshipper.
@lazbo4174 gee you should be familiar with those documents I quoted directly from them. NOW now now not even believing the sources of your own video tsk tsk tsk. Better read your sources before believing in what some other lying SDA Devil says. you have been debunked and you dont even know it . A true sign of a moron
yup Evodius was the first Bishop of Antioch a Catholic, and he is credited with being the first person to call the followers of Christ, "Christians", as shown in Acts 11:26. See Eusebius, book 3, chapter
Hanan Jesus was the Catholic Patriarch of the Nestorian Church from 775 to 780, as Lamy has proved from the Syrian historian, Elias of Nisibis. His successor Timotheus was appointed on April 11, 780, so that he was dead a year before the erection of the Chinese inscription.
Thus a year had elapsed, and the news of his death had not yet reached Si-ngan-fu from Seleucia: a fact which shows at what rate news travelled then in central Asia. Catholic Patriarch was the title of the chief of the Nestorians since the end of the 6th century; in the 5th century the title had been simply Catholic.12
Isnt it terrible when you go to the source and read it Si-ngan-fu After this, follows a metrical summary of the purport of the inscription, and then the date of the inscription: This stone was erected in the second year of Kien-chung of the great Tang dynasty
, in the Tso-yo of the cycle of years, in the month Tai-tsu, on the seventh day [i.e. Sunday], the day of the great Hosannas. The Sunday of the Great Hosannas meant, in the language of eastern Christians, Palm Sunday; and thus the date is precisely fixed to 781, April 8.10 The name of Ning-chu, i.e. Hanan Jesus the Catholic patriarch of the Nestorians, is added, and the name of the scribe who drew up the document.
I love how the only way these Lying SDA devils can try and prove their point is only to use selective quotes such as the one Columba made and didn't point out he died while blessing his fellow catholic Monks at Sunday mass. Certainly this is the work of the Devil in the SDA cult
6. Why does Adventism teach that Adam kept the Sabbath, when the Bible teaches that no-one before the time of Moses knew about the Sabbath?
7. Why does the Bible say that the Sabbath is a sign for Israel, and never applies it to mankind as a whole?
8. Why does Adventism gather weekly on Saturday, when in the New Testament and in the first, second, and third centuries, Christians gathered on Sunday?
@spoke777 Yes it was made for man, we are greater than the sabbath itself, sabbath or day of rest was made because of Man but I don think it was a commandment at the beggining rather the reason of its existance is to favor us just like a woman was created and the seas, animals, etc.I think The Lord gave Man the sabbath as a gift to make him remember how powerfull is his creator and how much The Lord love us. Read Deut 5:3 and u will see what iam talking about. God Bless.
@RAHAB95 I agree, it doesn't need to be a command but People get so busy and forget so God made it a command. An example is always good to follow especially when you realize that Kids do it constantly by coping their parents. Also I don't believe women are Just meant to serve men, Men and Woman are equals and serve each other
@spoke777 3. Why does Hebrews tell us that the day we keep is "ANOTHER" day?
4. Why does the Bible tell us that the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant made with Israel? and then why does the Bible tell us that this covenant does not apply to Christians?
5. Why are there NO commands for Christians to keep the Sabbath in the entire Bible?
@martlut Where does he say that? in Hebrews 4 it talks about entering his rest as God ceased from his work by resting on the Sabbath? Second where in the Bible does it say we keep sunday or even call it the Lord's day?
@spoke777 you never went to church on any other day but saturday??? if u did where in the bible dose it say u could or couldnot go anyother day but saturday??? thats besids the point.it sounds to be you havent read your bible.
@LOVE4NAILSNHAIR 'who are you you to make such a statement?" Wedness day friday, and yes I have been to church on sunday but I only make saturday consitent, also who are you to say I ahve not read the bible? I have read it completly three times so perhaps matthew 7 on judging should be remembered, also since I read that the bible says the Seventh-day is the Sabbath I don't argue with it since it is mentioned more than once
@spoke777 i really wannet to know if u went to church other then saturday wasnt tryna be funny. also sorry i made that statement about you not reading your bible. thanks for bringing up that scripture about judging. dont judge people who worship jesus on sunday and people shoudnt judge you about going to church on saturday.
@LOVE4NAILSNHAIR Noone should judge, half my family goes to church on sunday, my mom is the only SDA in her family her brother's are not...Her mom is SDA but not her dad, her dad doesn't go to church. Anyways I am glad you said that you were not being funny. As long as we are cool.
In the spring of 597 he knew that his end was approaching. On Saturday, 8 June, he ascended the hill overlooking his monastery and blessed for the last time the home so dear to him. That afternoon he was present at Vespers, and later, when the bell summoned the community to the midnight service
, he forestalled the others and entered the church without assistance. But he sank before the altar, and in that place breathed forth his soul to God, surrounded by his disciples. This happened a little after midnight between the 8th and 9th of June, 597. He was in the seventy-seventh year of his age.
Well said and done, dear brother Lazbo, Sabbath is the only sign and seal that He is our God and we are his people. And in new heavens and new earth we will be worshipping Him on the Sabbath.
Isaiah 66:22-23 As for the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
Excellent Video!! This really inspired me... to see the account of the faithful even way back then. Let us endeavour to continue in Jesus' footsteps We are the light of the world... we must let is shine so others can glofy the Father in Heaven. Matthew 5:14-16. God bless!
This was a great video. Good to see videos, even with a blend of history to show how some things never changed :)
The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. | Psalm 111:7,8
There remaineth therefore a rest (keeping of a Sabbath/margin/KJV) to the people of God. | Hebrews 4:9
I checked his page and found the video. I smiled when I saw that he used "RE:" to begin the title as though it is a genuine video response.
The video content is weak and full of supposition. As usual he makes bold assumptions and makes judgements regarding how I study and understand Scripture.
I will not waste my time responding to his video.
Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
you pretty well said everything I was going to tell you about it...weak...supposition. He seems to base all his "beliefs" on the premise of "if you (bing) say it enough, people will believe it".
I didnt think you would waste your time with it, just was wondering if you saw it. God bless.
Thanks for making me aware of the video my brother. It seems he is trying to provoke some sort of response from me, but he will not get a direct response. As I said before, I will check on his videos from time to time to see what he is up to.
But see no point in sharing direct dialogue with someone who will say something about someone one day and something completely different the next simply because that person does not bow to his (bingolly1's) opinion.
@rusda2 This is an very interesting Video, you should the Seventh Day Series, infact it is on Myspace TV. Bingo's video reply didn't say much than he bellered about one quote, yet I don't see any way around these statements. I was at the Holocost Museaum in DC and yet there are people you don't beleive it happened maybee they should go there, but I won't change there minds, sad really irrational.
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
no my friend, we are saved by grace and not the works of the Law, on this matter Scripture is perfectly clear. We keep the Commandments as a loving response to the grace extended to us... John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Colossians 2:16-17 was referring to verse in Leviticus 23 23-38 just read this and you will find in Colossians 2:16-17 is talking about feast days.
Notice in verse 38 it says that beside the sabbaths of the LORD. 38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
sabbaths of the Lord is referring to the seventh day, The day that Our Lord rested on.
@josephramanair This was talking about the ceremonial sabbaths, the yearly sabbaths that pointed to Jesus' Return... Not the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord in the 4th commandment
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
they also came together to break bread on every other day of the week... Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Hey lazbo, you have taken these from secular sources and authors of books that have quessed what really happened during the early age of the church. Why not consider the writings of the early fathers and early churches.
Very informative, lazbo, thanks for presenting this info! It's a real travesty that so many have chosen to rewrite the older history books and disguise if not completely discard the true facts about the Sabbath in early church times.
A most blessed Sabbath to you and yours, my friend!
Hello dear bro, thank you so much for this vid with all the references (~_^). My heart beat faster when I read abt the Shabbat-keeping Chinese and Indian Christians. It's becoming more an more a battle in the digital and real world concerning the true Shabbat Day of Yah and the sunday of the beast, as been prophesied, Yah Bless, Love & Mercy
1 John 2:6 is my favorite verse. :) It really keeps it so simple: did Jesus do it?...So should I. Another great video. Blessings.
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Colossians 2:16:
Let no man(or the ignorant eg white) therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days.
Paul sure made a mess out of 7th Day Adventist teaching, and that's with only one verse!
E.G.White
How careless of the Holy Spirit!
NotaSDAanymore 5 months ago
Colossians 2:16:
Let no man(or the ignorant eg white) therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH days.
Paul sure made a mess out of 7th Day Adventist teaching--how careless of the Holy Spirit!
Helpingheretics 6 months ago
Did Noe,Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep the sabbath as a commandment or as a tradition?Deut.5:3 stated that this covenant of the Law(4th one included) was made with Israel and not with their parents. Whats really the reason of the Law? Why the israelites were dispersed over the 4 points of the earth?Did they really observe the law?Why The Lord only enforce The Law of Moses on Isarel and not on the others kingdoms?Is ilicit to worship the Lord in other day rather than saturday?
RAHAB95 6 months ago
@RAHAB95 Regarding the covenant referred to in Deut. 5 please watch my video entitled "The Covenant of Deuteromony 5"
lazbo4174 6 months ago
beautiful, excellent video and true.
joselinema 7 months ago
I love the music in you video's " Meet Joe Black"
kell4809 1 year ago
This video is just to easy to debunk the SDA devils with
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut I await your "debunking" my friend. So far all you have done is interpret quotes according to your own biased opinion.
The early church kept the seventh day Sabbath holy, none of the disciples were first day worshippers and most importantly our example, the example for all who would live holy, that is Christ, was certainly not a first day worshipper.
lazbo4174 1 year ago 5
@lazbo4174 gee you should be familiar with those documents I quoted directly from them. NOW now now not even believing the sources of your own video tsk tsk tsk. Better read your sources before believing in what some other lying SDA Devil says. you have been debunked and you dont even know it . A true sign of a moron
martlut 1 year ago
yup Evodius was the first Bishop of Antioch a Catholic, and he is credited with being the first person to call the followers of Christ, "Christians", as shown in Acts 11:26. See Eusebius, book 3, chapter
martlut 1 year ago
Yup the Indian church had those unadulterated Scriptures right from the catholic church that's the only thing you got right
martlut 1 year ago
Hanan Jesus was the Catholic Patriarch of the Nestorian Church from 775 to 780, as Lamy has proved from the Syrian historian, Elias of Nisibis. His successor Timotheus was appointed on April 11, 780, so that he was dead a year before the erection of the Chinese inscription.
martlut 1 year ago
Thus a year had elapsed, and the news of his death had not yet reached Si-ngan-fu from Seleucia: a fact which shows at what rate news travelled then in central Asia. Catholic Patriarch was the title of the chief of the Nestorians since the end of the 6th century; in the 5th century the title had been simply Catholic.12
martlut 1 year ago
Gee cant you give any real facts history should be your friend not your enemy .
martlut 1 year ago
Isnt it terrible when you go to the source and read it Si-ngan-fu After this, follows a metrical summary of the purport of the inscription, and then the date of the inscription: This stone was erected in the second year of Kien-chung of the great Tang dynasty
martlut 1 year ago
, in the Tso-yo of the cycle of years, in the month Tai-tsu, on the seventh day [i.e. Sunday], the day of the great Hosannas. The Sunday of the Great Hosannas meant, in the language of eastern Christians, Palm Sunday; and thus the date is precisely fixed to 781, April 8.10 The name of Ning-chu, i.e. Hanan Jesus the Catholic patriarch of the Nestorians, is added, and the name of the scribe who drew up the document.
martlut 1 year ago
I love how the only way these Lying SDA devils can try and prove their point is only to use selective quotes such as the one Columba made and didn't point out he died while blessing his fellow catholic Monks at Sunday mass. Certainly this is the work of the Devil in the SDA cult
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Yet there is not a scripture that says sunday is holy but the Seventh-day is the Sabbath
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777
6. Why does Adventism teach that Adam kept the Sabbath, when the Bible teaches that no-one before the time of Moses knew about the Sabbath?
7. Why does the Bible say that the Sabbath is a sign for Israel, and never applies it to mankind as a whole?
8. Why does Adventism gather weekly on Saturday, when in the New Testament and in the first, second, and third centuries, Christians gathered on Sunday?
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut You full of it, first of all the ten commandments state the sabbath was from creation, besides Jesus said the Sabbath was made for Man
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777 Yes it was made for man, we are greater than the sabbath itself, sabbath or day of rest was made because of Man but I don think it was a commandment at the beggining rather the reason of its existance is to favor us just like a woman was created and the seas, animals, etc.I think The Lord gave Man the sabbath as a gift to make him remember how powerfull is his creator and how much The Lord love us. Read Deut 5:3 and u will see what iam talking about. God Bless.
RAHAB95 6 months ago
@RAHAB95 I agree, it doesn't need to be a command but People get so busy and forget so God made it a command. An example is always good to follow especially when you realize that Kids do it constantly by coping their parents. Also I don't believe women are Just meant to serve men, Men and Woman are equals and serve each other
spoke777 6 months ago
@martlut The sabbath was made for Man Mark 2:27 and that is NT
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777 3. Why does Hebrews tell us that the day we keep is "ANOTHER" day?
4. Why does the Bible tell us that the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant made with Israel? and then why does the Bible tell us that this covenant does not apply to Christians?
5. Why are there NO commands for Christians to keep the Sabbath in the entire Bible?
martlut 1 year ago
@spoke777 1. Why do NO Christians keep the Sabbath in the New Testament?
2. Why does Paul THREE times tell us that we need not keep the Sabbath?
martlut 1 year ago
@martlut Where does he say that? in Hebrews 4 it talks about entering his rest as God ceased from his work by resting on the Sabbath? Second where in the Bible does it say we keep sunday or even call it the Lord's day?
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777 you never went to church on any other day but saturday??? if u did where in the bible dose it say u could or couldnot go anyother day but saturday??? thats besids the point.it sounds to be you havent read your bible.
LOVE4NAILSNHAIR 1 year ago
@LOVE4NAILSNHAIR 'who are you you to make such a statement?" Wedness day friday, and yes I have been to church on sunday but I only make saturday consitent, also who are you to say I ahve not read the bible? I have read it completly three times so perhaps matthew 7 on judging should be remembered, also since I read that the bible says the Seventh-day is the Sabbath I don't argue with it since it is mentioned more than once
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777 i really wannet to know if u went to church other then saturday wasnt tryna be funny. also sorry i made that statement about you not reading your bible. thanks for bringing up that scripture about judging. dont judge people who worship jesus on sunday and people shoudnt judge you about going to church on saturday.
LOVE4NAILSNHAIR 1 year ago
@LOVE4NAILSNHAIR Noone should judge, half my family goes to church on sunday, my mom is the only SDA in her family her brother's are not...Her mom is SDA but not her dad, her dad doesn't go to church. Anyways I am glad you said that you were not being funny. As long as we are cool.
spoke777 1 year ago
@martlut Why does Luke a Gentile Author call the seventh day of the week sabbath? Paul went to synagog on the sabbath he didn't call the seventh-day
spoke777 1 year ago
gee why is it this video shows no proff of this suposed saturday worship no documents no nothing just the words of the author of some crazy book
martlut 1 year ago
Gee st Columba went to midnight mass that evening
martlut 1 year ago
In the spring of 597 he knew that his end was approaching. On Saturday, 8 June, he ascended the hill overlooking his monastery and blessed for the last time the home so dear to him. That afternoon he was present at Vespers, and later, when the bell summoned the community to the midnight service
martlut 1 year ago
, he forestalled the others and entered the church without assistance. But he sank before the altar, and in that place breathed forth his soul to God, surrounded by his disciples. This happened a little after midnight between the 8th and 9th of June, 597. He was in the seventy-seventh year of his age.
martlut 1 year ago
Columda was a catholic saint who observed Sunday service what a liar this dope is look it up yourself.
martlut 1 year ago
Thank you for showing an interest in my site. You are correct concerning the Sabbath.
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dmorse126 2 years ago
Well said and done, dear brother Lazbo, Sabbath is the only sign and seal that He is our God and we are his people. And in new heavens and new earth we will be worshipping Him on the Sabbath.
Isaiah 66:22-23 As for the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.
amvieshus7 2 years ago 2
Excellent Video!! This really inspired me... to see the account of the faithful even way back then. Let us endeavour to continue in Jesus' footsteps We are the light of the world... we must let is shine so others can glofy the Father in Heaven. Matthew 5:14-16. God bless!
Poplock009 2 years ago 5
Poplock009... thankyou for the encouraging words my friend
lazbo4174 2 years ago
This was a great video. Good to see videos, even with a blend of history to show how some things never changed :)
The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure. They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. | Psalm 111:7,8
There remaineth therefore a rest (keeping of a Sabbath/margin/KJV) to the people of God. | Hebrews 4:9
:)
RemixtLatino 2 years ago 2
have you seen bingollys attack on this video of yours yet?
rusda2 2 years ago
no bro, i don't take much notice of what he is up to. What is it called?
lazbo4174 2 years ago
I checked his page and found the video. I smiled when I saw that he used "RE:" to begin the title as though it is a genuine video response.
The video content is weak and full of supposition. As usual he makes bold assumptions and makes judgements regarding how I study and understand Scripture.
I will not waste my time responding to his video.
Proverbs 29:20 Seest thou a man that is hasty in his words? there is more hope of a fool than of him.
lazbo4174 2 years ago
you pretty well said everything I was going to tell you about it...weak...supposition. He seems to base all his "beliefs" on the premise of "if you (bing) say it enough, people will believe it".
I didnt think you would waste your time with it, just was wondering if you saw it. God bless.
rusda2 2 years ago
Thanks for making me aware of the video my brother. It seems he is trying to provoke some sort of response from me, but he will not get a direct response. As I said before, I will check on his videos from time to time to see what he is up to.
But see no point in sharing direct dialogue with someone who will say something about someone one day and something completely different the next simply because that person does not bow to his (bingolly1's) opinion.
God bless you too brother
lazbo4174 2 years ago
I know exactly what you are talking about bro. I watched him do it to you.
rusda2 2 years ago
@rusda2 This is an very interesting Video, you should the Seventh Day Series, infact it is on Myspace TV. Bingo's video reply didn't say much than he bellered about one quote, yet I don't see any way around these statements. I was at the Holocost Museaum in DC and yet there are people you don't beleive it happened maybee they should go there, but I won't change there minds, sad really irrational.
spoke777 1 year ago
@spoke777 are you referring to the Hal Holbrook videos? if so I have those on DVD. they are excellent and irrefutable.
rusda2 1 year ago
@rusda2 Yes I was
spoke777 1 year ago
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
josephramanair 2 years ago
and?
lazbo4174 2 years ago
lazbo4174
Is the observation of the Sabbath your saving grace?
josephramanair 2 years ago
no my friend, we are saved by grace and not the works of the Law, on this matter Scripture is perfectly clear. We keep the Commandments as a loving response to the grace extended to us... John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
lazbo4174 2 years ago
Colossians 2:16-17 was referring to verse in Leviticus 23 23-38 just read this and you will find in Colossians 2:16-17 is talking about feast days.
Notice in verse 38 it says that beside the sabbaths of the LORD. 38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
sabbaths of the Lord is referring to the seventh day, The day that Our Lord rested on.
dldnjswns99 2 years ago
@josephramanair This was talking about the ceremonial sabbaths, the yearly sabbaths that pointed to Jesus' Return... Not the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord in the 4th commandment
Poplock009 2 years ago
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
josephramanair 2 years ago
and?
lazbo4174 2 years ago
Now on the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread
josephramanair 2 years ago
they also came together to break bread on every other day of the week... Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
lazbo4174 2 years ago
Another beautiful presentation of the Sabbath truth, my friend.
God's Law is as immutable as the character of our LORD Himself. His Law stands true as long as He does.
rkg62976 2 years ago
Hey lazbo, you have taken these from secular sources and authors of books that have quessed what really happened during the early age of the church. Why not consider the writings of the early fathers and early churches.
condradodomingo 2 years ago
Very informative, lazbo, thanks for presenting this info! It's a real travesty that so many have chosen to rewrite the older history books and disguise if not completely discard the true facts about the Sabbath in early church times.
A most blessed Sabbath to you and yours, my friend!
jkw733 3 years ago
Amen!
fallingup2U 3 years ago
Hello dear bro, thank you so much for this vid with all the references (~_^). My heart beat faster when I read abt the Shabbat-keeping Chinese and Indian Christians. It's becoming more an more a battle in the digital and real world concerning the true Shabbat Day of Yah and the sunday of the beast, as been prophesied, Yah Bless, Love & Mercy
deborahbetty58 3 years ago 7