Triumph of the Nerds [three of three] 2/6

[retrofooze]

fast forward 30 years and Jobs and Apple sue people for doing exactly what they did to become big in the first place. Hypocrite cunt enjoy your grave

[PJBearstein]

@retrofooze You are being a jumped up little twat, aren't you? Long live Apple, God bless Steve Jobs!

[SimonLYW]

@PJBearstein Minus the disrespect he's got a point. Quite a hypocritical company.

[hibob418]

(2:20) Depressing: Twin Towers-gone, now Steve Jobs-gone. RIP

[gohepcat]

1:20



[advait24]

Is it just me or is this guy a bit of a racist. Why does he keep saying "even the french"?

[megawutt]

@advait24

It was a joke.

The stereotype of the French is that they are very rude.

[MrsSarb]

@advait24 People trash on Americans all the time......it's supposed to be a joke anyways.

[fretslide5]

I guess you can accuse Apple managers of being idiots as well.

Hypercard could have been more, but Apple didnt get it.

It doesnt stop there.. Netscape could have been as big as Google

etc etc etc ... somethings take time to really blossom.

As the program shows.. its all by accident...

being at the right place at the right time....

Today, Facebook isnt that different from Geocities some 12 years ago.

Why did Geo fail ? Crazy questions to ponder on...

[torontocitylife]

Jobs: "Xerox could've been the IBM of the 90s...the Microsoft of the 90s". I'd say, so what's your excuse, Jobsie?

[XcXtrippyXcX]

@torontocitylife Jobs's excuse was that he got fired shortly after the release of the Macintosh and only came back shortly before the development and eventual release of the iMac which was the most successful computer released by Apple since the original Macintosh.

And currently under Jobs's management Apple is making more revenue than even Microsoft due to the insane success of anything with the letter 'i' before it's name xD

[Corbon440]

Fantasy, vision and a lack of balls = Xerox management. It's kinda sad to see the scientists working for them not being able to reap the benefits of their amazing work.

[OBSysteme]

What the f%ck is it with that documentary and the Americans about "The French".

This is annoying to the extreme... what a lame expression.

[MisterEvasion]

Why have a lavish research and development like XEROX had and then not follow through with that computer! For the 1970s, that type of computer is way ahead of anything that was produced in those days. I was amazed when I saw it in action there! A strikingly modern interface.

[MsAnimefan101]

2:20 the only thing i noticed in that shot is the only buildings that i ever wanted to really see. Even though i was only in kindergarten i will never forget that day.

[joseanl]

Once they had done that, they could had the GUI patent, and Microsoft wouldn't been able to do ANYTHING except for cry,

The famous legal dispute of Apple vs MS was totally wrong, because it was not Apple's right to sue MS, it was Xerox's, and, by the time they thought of doing so, it was too late to claim any legal rights

[joseanl]

Steve Jobs was also a little bit of a moron himself, they made a deal to visit and "borrow" some ideas in an exchange for Apple's shares, but a while later they had enough money to buy the ENTIRE Xerox company themselves!

[tutorialconr]

Jobs also said in his interview that they didn't even realize what they have created. So , Apple just had to steal and then MS had to copy.

[Darkgrammer]

Steve Jobs is an asshat, thinks he's omnipotent.

Xerox to Apple to Microsoft

Copy of a copy, thankfully the less moronic nerd got the money (Bill Gates) cause I can't picture Steve Jobs being the richest man in the world with his Godlike persona.

[Morahman7vnNo2]

Xerox, who knew. This documentary is full of surprises.

[NgoyTV]

I agree.. Xerox did an enormous amount to shape the personal computer industry...

[shirosaki144]

LOL it is hilarious that not only did Xerox not make the move to be a big influence, but in this video they practically make everyone at Xerox look like fools! hahahaha its like kicking a sick dog with 3 legs

[phoneke]

So the people at Xerox were the real visionaries of the PC.

[brabon1]

yes and no....all the ideas worked on at parc were already researched back in the 50s and 60s

they just made everything better

xerox was stupid because they should really be the apple/microsoft of today

[Saturn357]

If this movie proves nothing else, it proves how stupid managers are. You know it's true, too, cause you work with (for?) them everyday. Can I get a Amen?

[mysweetgb]

amen!

[Saturn357]

Hallelujah! *plays organ*

[blacbraun]

@Saturn357 You bet. Stupid and blind. All the better for people like Jobs.

[MrMostevilgenius]

@Saturn357 Well, kinda. I would argue the kind of manager you refer to lack vision, the real idiots are the people who hired these non-visionaires in the first place. On the main level I agree with you though and as far as I'm concerned, I would say most managers (in the typical corporate sense) are a waist of money for just about any company. So, yeah, Amen :)

[tubub]

@Saturn357

Not fair. Not all managers are as pussy as the ones at Xerox were.

[nchristy08]

LISA was 10k $ because it had 1 MB of RAM. Remember that 1 MB got affordable in '86(when the Amiga came along).

[goma3]

Trust researchers more than business men. Researchers don't do it for the money and they are not reasonable about what is impossible. Almost every single great company has a good research team as their backbone

[jintomank]

err...real life Steve Jobs isn't as hot as Noah Wyle LOL

[pinko1975]

XErox invented the GUI and mouse paradigm. They were just morons not to be able to market it.

Thaat's what happens when a company has a bad management team! MORONS!

[macindrew]

actually, it was SRI in the 1960s who developed the On-Line System (NLS), which incorporated a mouse-driven cursor and multiple windows used to work on hypertext.

Xerox did goof in hindsight, but if you were primarily a paper copier company, would you sell a product that eliminated 90% of your business?

Only Apple could have pulled it off, they had the vision, the distribution channel and the engineering resources to make it all happen.

[pinko1975]

i agree but they lacked the vision for the potential that technology offered. It would have killed their core business but created a whole new world for them. Always embrace change never oppose it!

[macindrew]

sure it's easy to say, but Xerox was an old line photographic paper company founded in 1906, while Apple was a fresh thinking computer firm founded in 1976. The inertia of Xerox simply didn't allow for such a radical shift in strategy, while Apple was nimble enough, creative enough to make the huge leap with the LISA, then ring out the costs of building a GUI based machine with the Mac.

[macindrew]

This proves beyond a doubt that Apple was invited to Xerox, paid Xerox for a demo and then they took the "rough" idea, perfected it and created the GUI everyone uses today.