Yeargh, now ya know why that old shithead is roastin' in HELL... : P
If you had been honest to people and treated others fairly, then at least you'd been able to sleep well at night knowin' that you did nothin' wrong to nobody.
But that shure wasn't the case with Steve Jobs tho, so he paid the ULTIMATE PRICE by losin' his LIFE and EVERYTHING ELSE he had!
I just wonder how's he gonna spend all that 100+ billion he ripped offa poor innocent folks while he's six feet under?
The Cave where David was found is 1000 ft lower down than the place where Himex had their own people saved in 2001: Below the First Step the distance from the Cave to the high camp is quite short - about 300 ft. When climber's brains are shutting down from O2 deprivation, it takes quite some time to revive them - much more than a few minutes.
In 2001 a total of 12 people; 9 Sherpas and 3 climbers helped to rescue 2 Himex climbers [Andy and Jaime], one guide and a client, from close to the summit of Everest The three men found Andy and Jaime alive at third step at around 7 am in the morning. They could talk but not move. David, Tap and Jason administered high flow oxygen for almost two hours in addition to high altitude drugs and water to the two men. Next they took Andy and Jaime down, slowly, from 8700 meters all the way to camp.
@shawent They were lucky that they had trained professionals come to their aid, the people who passed by David Sharp would have been risking their own lives if they stopped and tried to help. Does the report indicate whether the two men could walk of their own steam at all?
Asked if he would have acted differently had Sharp been a Himex client, Mark Woodward says, "I guess yes. Because as a guide I'm primarily responsible for the people on my expedition. So if he was part of our expedition, yeah, definitely.
Eric Simonson, an expedition leader on Everest that runs Everest expeditions every year and a man with first hand knowledge in rescuing clients on Everest was appalled at the actions so many climbers. Eric's expedition in 2001 rescued 2 members of the Russell Brice expedition in 2001 from a much higher and much more difficult location (the Third Step) on the mountain "Climbers can be too selfish, "I don't know how those people can sleep at night. It's abhorrent." Simonson was quoted.
lots of ppl have climbed everest solo, without sherpa and without oxygen.messner thinks its cheating to follow the yellow brick road and lay seige to mountains with all this gear in order to make the top so sharpe wasnt so wreckless as ppl think.what saddens me is the fact that i suspect ppl who passed him on the way up would have known he was in trouble but were too focused on getting to the top to bother. admittedly 9hrs later on the way down he is in a state and cannot be saved.LIFE b4 summit
No O2 tanks, No radio, no buddy/sherpa support, he might as well take all his clothes off and danced in the snow at 8000m altitude. I try to feel for this guy but i simply cannot. He was an idiot! you dont go to war without a weapon in your hand. You dont go to desert without water, you dont go to summit Everest without O2 tanks, or radio, or sherpas/buddies! I think he wanted to die! He has tried 2 times before gave up, he has seen bodies of dead climbers there as a warning! I cant feel for him
@Ouija121085 many people have climbed everest solo without oxygen or sherpa support. reinhold messner, alison hargreaves to name a few. on the way back from summit if he couldnt walk then its game over. but what about those who saw him on the way UP when he was in better shape? i think they put their summit bid before helping someone in trouble who may have been in a shape to get down with help. hope they dont need rescuing in the future. they may see things different then
@prettyboyfloydrules Yes people have climbed everest without O2 and buddy to help them out. People have falled in river full of crocodiles and managed to get out without a scratch. It doesen't mean they will get out again. You have to be extremely fit to climb without O2 your body has to be in excellent shape to undertake such taxing. It has been shown people who climbed without O2 suffered mild from of brain damage, so messner might say hello to premature dementia.
@prettyboyfloydrules Futhermore people who climb without 02 at such altiudes are jackasses in their own right, they want to be first at something even putting their life for a footnote "he climbed without O2" other people climbed with O2 and left their bones on everst. What Sharp did was idiotic and irresponsible and he deserved what he got end of story.
@Ouija121085 I understand there are things you can do to make it safer but never 100%safe, but lets pretend that Sharpe had took oxygen. do you still think that those climbers would have helped him? we cannot be sure but i doubt it would have made any difference. some but not all of those who past him would have suspected he was in trouble but they were too bothered about getting to the top to give a damn.
@Ouija121085 so if you see someone in trouble on the way up with oxygen do you still leave them so you can summit yourself? that is the question, NOT whether or not he had oxygen but should one stop to help another out, or is the $40000 youve paid worth more than trying to save a life?
@prettyboyfloydrules There is not rescue possible at altitudes 8000m+ if you can't walk you are dead. People up there spend 70% of their energy just to breathe and people breathe 6-10 times and they stop every 10 seconds and rest 5 minutes. There is absolutely no way anyone could pick someone and carry tyem down specially when you haven't been to everest and haven't seen what you have to negotiate. Sure i would stop and ask if they wanted a message relyed to their family.
You dont go unprepared to Everest. This means you need to be physically fit almost like an astronaut, healthy in all sense both mentally and physically. Well prepared meaning having oxygen tanks in case of emergency even if you are going without O2 to show your balls to other climbers... having a radio that works even a back up, and ofcourse you NEVER EVER go alone! if any of these are not on your list you are inviting death and you will most certanly get it.
As the man said, David took a minimalist approach, seriously risky, and paid for it with his life. he also potentially put others who might have rescued him into extreme danger. Rescue is not an option at that altitude, and David probably knew that.
Taking a almost dead man at 8000m is almost a death sentence. I'm very very sorry, but the truth is David Sharp would make the same decision. RIP mountain man.
Climbing at over 27,000ft or 8000m its a major effort to look after ones self let alone attend to somebody who is obviously suffering from acute altitude sickness.
Every high altitude climber realises once you venture into the DEATH ZONE as it's called above 8000m anything can happen and if you run into trouble and cannot look after yourself nobody has the physical energy to help you.
Just look at how many dead bodies litter the slopes of Everest, it's one very dangerous place to be.
@Welencier05 Simple, at Everest if you colapse down and you cannot walk you are dead. If you can walk then there is a chance of you being helped and maybe saved by determined and experienced climbers which should be in every team. You cannot expect anyone to carry you down its impossible as thsoe around you are also on "borrowed" time and noone has the strengt to carry you down.
He was spotted by a Mark Inglis party, a large party that could have shared his weight if they had been selfless enough to abandon their ascent while they were still fresh and had oxygen.
Instead they chose to go on and then having "triumphed" the mountain (read gotten their moneys worth) they on their way down radiod basecamp. Ofcourse they lied that they had radioed during the ascent but that disproven. I do hope karma has caught up atleast some of them, die cold,miserable LONELY deaths.
During WWII fighter pilots were known to continue firing at a target all the way into the ground, they called this target fixation. I often think of climbing Everest as a form of target fixation, your brain is swelling, you feel like shit, but you keep pushing on anyhow until your body fails you and you end up like David Sharp.
A helicopter made a successful landing on the summit, so if one were specifically designed for a high altitude rescue, the next step would be to sell rescue insurance.
@abirneji that far up the mountain, helicopters couldn't get there (because of the wind and elevation). The guy was unconscious, so they probably weren't able to "carry" him down safely with the equipment they had.
its a very silly way to go...if only half the enthusiasm funding and human ability of all the mountain climbs, was put into getting man into space and exploring planets - then we could call that real human progress...look beyond the mountain tops...way beyond
After doing a bit of research into mountain climbing, especially Evereest. The only person to blame for the death of David Sharp, is David Sharp. He climbed alone, no radio, no oxygen and in the worst weather on a deadly journey. He knew the risks he was taking. The other climbers are not to blame. They have to wrry about themselves in that environment. They have b ut what they need to get up there and back and little else. David Sharp was a fool and died a fools death. Cold, but truthful.
He was impossible to save also because of his location on the mountain. Prior to this incident a team of Korean climbers had the sole mission of recovering a body from about that height... They moved him 500ft and gave up. At that altitude every step is a struggle let alone with dead weight and the famous steps (eg the hillary step) to think about. It simply would have been impossible to recover him.
People die every second for far more preventable reasons. Why do people get their panties in a bunch about some guy who took a risk and lost? There seems to be this belief that human life is so precious that extending it at all cost is something that should be done no matter the risk to others. But how many of these armchair critics are reaching deep and risking their mortgage for example to help starving children, but they expect others to risk their lives for one guy trying to do Everest solo.
@ralph17p ... its much more about the fact that fellow climbers simply ignored a man who when they had initially discovered him was very much 'save-able'.
@harrisontan maybe he was saveable, but only at great personal risk to anyone attempting it. My personal opinion is that people do these sort of minimalist solo climbs in the full knowledge that resue at altitude is very unlikely. So why criticize anyone for not risking their own neck to save this guy? What's the rationale? If it's every life is precious (which I don't exactly agree with myself) then what are these critics doing to personally save lives, which is as simple as writing a check?
@FlimsyRock Yes. As far as I know, David Sharp is still huddled up there in Green Boots Cave.
After being forced to leave Francys Arsentiev to die in 1998, Ian Woodall and Cathy O'Dowd went back in 2007 to gather stones and inter the bodies of Arsentiev, Tsewang "Green Boots" Paljor and, by some accounts, David Sharp. They ended up having to drag Arsentiev to a crevice and drop her in, giving up before even touching Paljor and Sharp. So Paljor and Sharp are still up there, sharing a cave.
no chance to bring him down, no chance...yet they mention lincoln hall, who was later carried off the mountain...from a higher elevation. hell, mark inglis's dumb ass was carried down, too.
They dont take the bodies off of Everest because it is to hard to do. So when they get back down they make memorials in honor of the ones who died. You guys should read about Beck Weathers. Incredible.
If he can't walk and you can't physical lift him what are you meant to do? That's a really hard question you can't judge the people who left him there it was his life or theirs. Sounds harsh, yes but you can't deny you wouldn't hold your own life over his. I would try to help but at the risk of dying myself? Nope, it's sad that I would say that but it's the truth.
It's sad that he most likely died on his own but he knew the risks and he did take the minimalist approach.
Frankly some blame should go to David Sharp for taking such a minimilast and dangerous approach to climbing. He put everyone else in jeopardy by being so irresponsible.
@Spudst3r I agree with you. This mountain is known to attract swarms of underskilled people all risking life and limb (literally) for their shot at glory, many of them who are just barely able to bring themselves back alive, and yet even most of them travel in a party with sherpas for contingency plans. He took a gamble and he lost. This is like playing with fire and assuming anyone nearby should save you even though they aren't firemen. Sharps own mother admitted nobody owed him their help
to say that people couldn`t see him in the darks is complete bullocks. while you are going up, in the dark, you look every square cm arround you to see what you are doing so you don`t die . he is resting.. come on... no one goes to sleep there. sleeping kills.you could shake him up a bit, see if he`s alive.it costs nothing,most of the time you are standing still on the mt
They ALL should be hung on that mountain!! Helping him was not an option with 40 PEAPLE walking by! They are absolutely the biggest pussies on this planet!! If someone had the balls to tell me this story to my face I would drag his faggot ass up that mountain and chain him to a fucking tree and watch the poor bastard die!! You fucking worthless cowards and they call themselves MEN! Sorry fucking saps! That's unreal! You die saving him if you have to & that is no option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Beefer413 You don't understand high altitude climbing, it's called the death zone for a reason. The ground is too steep to carry him, you can barely climb up and down by yourself due to the steepness and lack of oxygen. It's also too steep and rugged for a litter, and too difficult to even bring an unloaded litter up. Basically you are on you own and everyone knows that before they begin the climb.
i mean when you go up to the summit, you have to understand that you have a big risk of dying. He was alone, and didn't have any support or Sherpas to help him. When your up by the summit, if your in trouble, it's basically impossible for someone else to help you. I don't blame the other guys for walking past, because you shouldn't risk your life or safety for someone else's stupidity.
why the hell people wanna go there ? , you need to be insane to even attempt this kind of extreme level mountain climbing . people take chances , fully knowing the risks and consequences of their endevours , if something goes wrong . Do they deserve sympathy ? . I doubt .
@sabershuksan Dont understand. Tell me gist of the ogre story I dont have time to read. Oh and if shock is so cool why is it so dangerous- seems counter productive to me. Now tell me the ogre story NOW.
@sabershuksan I agree. Alpine climbing is the real deal, while having a group of Sherpa carry you & your stuff up a peak is not. If you need O2 bottles to get up a mountain, you're too high. lol
These masochists that spend $50k to suffer for a final 18 hour push to the summit and back should all die and leave their money to people like me with more sense. I'd spend the money providing free drugs, marginal shelter and free food to homeless.
The "real" mountaineers climb K2...were the death rate is 27/100.
@seigheilz88 "These masochists that spend $50k to suffer for a final 18 hour push to the summit and back should all die and leave their money to people like me with more sense. "
You seriously think 50,000 dollars spent in NEPAL is wasted money compared to spending it in any Western economy??
@fuzzywzhe Yes, I do. In the supposedly wealthy, caring USA, live millions of kids going to bed hungry every night. We should spend the trillions wasted on the military complex and paying interest to greedy jooish bankers creating off the grid communities where the poor could thrive. I wager I could lose 70% of the folks climbing Everest on lowly routes in the Sierra's.
@seigheilz88 The United States is the most wasteful country in the world. The last place that needs capital investment is the United States.
Better to have a bunch of dumb idiots spending $50,000 to kill themselves in Nepal than to waste it here to save morons from themselves. One of the Sherpas opened a school in Nepal from his earnings. You don't even need to do that here.
I think it was Russel Brice that correctly said, 'You might as well be on the Moon!'. Although that sounds far fetched and dramatic, he is literally right, when you're struggling to stay alive yourself, it just isn't realistic to expect to carry an inanimate body down with you.
You take your chances up there. If it is "possible" to save someone and realistic then you take a stab at it but this whole idea that you put yourself in serious danger to save someone who had a "minimalist" approach to begin with is absurd. You want to have a "minimalist" approach. Fine. If it goes wrong then you're pretty much on your own. As far as I'm concerned you're pretty much "on your own" at a certain point. This whole idea of "idealism" around mountain climbing is for the birds.
I thought it was rather ridiculous that the media got all hyped over this. Its so easy to cast a decision you think you can make if you are in the situation. The death zone is just that andyou cant be carried out. Its a sad story but the mountain is unforgiving
"in the end not the most unpleasnant way to go simply drift off to permanet sleep" cetiee your a tool that would be horibol frost bit sucks so much let alone hole limbs frezen that would be worse then buring to death it would be like slowly buring to death for ten hourse. the people that past him should have at lest tride 40 guys they could have esily done it
@thunderpig1000 Wrong..your body goes into shock not long after you stop moving. I have been in shock from being in an accident where I was in icy water. After about 5 minutes of feeling the extreme cold I did not feel cold anymore and actually felt warm and very disoriented, almost like being very drunk. I was saved about 10 minutes they said before I would have died. I know what it feels like, and cetieel is right, I could think of countless ways worse to die. Shock sets in and you go numb.
In the end the chap made a decision to climb. He would have known the risks. Even if they had managed to get him to his feet he was probably at best suffering from hypoxia and at the worst HAPE.
In that shape he was not going to get down.
Rob Hall and Scott Fisher in 96 on Everest knew they had had it and I am sure Mr Sharp did too .
In the end not the most unpleasant way to go to simply drift off to permanent sleep
May he and all those gone before him on that mountain rest in it's lap.
You may think that it is unhuman, but you would risk your own life without any chance to save him in the condition he was.
And finally, it was his own decision to do what he did. There was no necessity to do that and he tried two times without success. Perhaps, he was - that sounds hard - just not fit enough to climb that highest mountain! It's not a tourist sightseeing trip!!!
I' am sorry for my bad english, but I'm trying to make it understandable for everyone. I've been in hard mountain conditions with the mountain rangers and we have trained to rescue people from the top of these mountains. You cannot imagine what that means, even in five or six thousand meters height. From that point of view, it seems to be impossible for me to rescue someone from that position.
Doesn't sound like it was "feasible" to bring Mr. Sharp down. I realize it sounds heartless people walking by an all. Perhaps if there were a group of 2 excellent Sherpa's with a couple of Reinhold Meisner's they might have done something to help him but I'm sure that wasn't the case. If it had been a realistic opportunity I'm sure something would have been done. You're a slave to the elements and the "situation" up there. In alot of cases you're "on your own."
Every climber that goes to Everest knows the risk. It is unfair and even mean to expect another climber to carry you down because you have bitten off more than you can chew. David Sharp died doing what he loved to do. I have heard his last phone call to his wife. He would not expect them to die trying to rescue him. The only people who expect that don't know the climbing world. My late husband loved climbing the high mountains. Even he said you take your life in "your hands.
Watch "The Dark Side of Everest," you can find part one under the "Related Videos" section, and see if you don't feel differently afterwards.
Just look at the guy that got frostbitten so bad his hands had to be amputated, and imagine yourself AS him on that mountian. That's called empathy. I know slimeballs such as yourselves are typically incapable of real, human emotions, but try anyway. You might be surprised.
Maybe as you lie there, fucking DYING and unable to move or call for help, you might have a change of heart! You people seriously make me vomit! You're SICK, DISGUSTING, VILE, *PATHETIC* excuses of human beings, and it's *YOU* who don't deserve to live!
After all, this guy has far bigger BALLS than you're sorry asses can ever even PRETEND to have!
u mad. You have no idea at all what it feels like to be up at tat high of an altitude, with barely enough oxygen to breathe, after having climbed 26,000 feet for the past 4 days, in the blistering cold. Compare it to this because I know at least you can relate to this you fat sh*t. Imagine your fat ass goes on a 5 km run (I know you would never even make it past 1km and passing out,) When your done, your fat ass will fall to the ground and ull puke.That's how the climbers feel
Because health should be basic human instinct, their is no excuse for being fat other than lack of self control and discipine. If your fat ass would eat healthy and regularly excersize, you wouldn't be fat, period. The only excuse for being fat is if you are handi-cap or very sick, otherwise blaming it on genetics or that you've "tried everything" to lose wait, is nothing short of a pathetic joke. Good day to you, fat sir.
To continue my post, after a 5km run you will drop to the floor, and fall asleep after puking your fat ass guts out. After a 5km run could you imagine picking up a person onto your back and going another 5km lmao? Your a total f*cking idiot, it would be commiting suicide yourself f*cking queer phaggot. I SWEAR you are one cheeky f*cking C*unt mate to judge other people, I'll beat ur ass if i ever met you f*cking phaggot, I swear on my mums life, queer.
You people are fucking sick, heartless monsters! Sure he might've made a foolish mistake taking that minimalist approach, but that means he deserves to DIE?? WHAT THE FUCK'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?!?!
I honestly hope that, someday, when you're caught in an avalanche on your next skiing trip or trapped under debris when your plane crashes on the side of a mountian, that rescuers don't waste their fucking time and money on your sick, sorry asses.
hahaha....too fuckin funny.....let me see...do I feel sorry or remorse for these poor fucks........ummmmmm..........not a fuckin chance........and the stunned Brit...his 3rd attempt.........and noone ever mentions the costs involved to rescue these greaseballs, or the dangers...they should be on their own, if they don't live...fuck em...preserved in ice forever.........
3rd attempt............ minimalism approach to climbing, no sherpa support and no contact with other expeditions worst of all no fucking radio!!!! what the fuck was this guy doing???? I don't feel sorry............... Listening to the video it could have happened in a "dark street" of any major city........... when you climb and at that altitude you have tunnel vision. climbing is fucking HARD, accept the RISKS or just fuck off!!!!
EVEREST YOU WANT YOUR ASS UP THERE YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU AND ONLY YOU GET THAT ASS BACK DOWN FIRST OF ALL YOU A FUCKING MORON TO GO THERE TO BEGIN WITH FUCK YOUR EGO AND FUCK YOU!!! its been done over and over nobody cares
The only people who are questioning these people are the stupid media who is looking to create a story and all the people that have never climbed in their life. Anyone who has climbed will tell you that you as a climber take all the risk and you do not expect anyone to help. most people who climb have sacrificed months and years to get ready for the climb and have spent $20K+ per climb so to give that up to help someone is very difficult.
and mister funnybones shut the fuck up you dum ass nobody likes you. i hope someones throws you off Everest if you ever have the balls to climb the frigen thing!
@inexperiencedclimber I climb on the balls of my feet...that's right, even my feet have balls. From your username, I take it you'll want to take the gondola.
I would rather die trying to get the man down of the mountian and lose glory of the summit rather than walk right by and have the dieing man's facial image imprinted on my mind .
Idiots in the media and on YouTube, there are no rescues in the death zone, olympic caliber athletes can barely summit. If you can't get up and back on you own you are dead. Not to mention the technical aspects of rescuing someone on steep ground.
It's just so easy to make judgments living in the comfort of homes at, in most cases, places below 3000m altitude... There is no way helicopters could go there, for instance. The "Death Zone" does have this name for a reason, it's a zone where it is almost physically impossible to mount a rescue.
Moreover, bear in mind that many expeditions are formed by 2/3 experienced true mountaineers and many others who are just "paying costumers" with NO ability or training for rescues.
This isn't the fault of any of the climbers that passed him. You can't help someone you can't see in the dark and you can't help someone who is already under a death sentence. If Sharp hadn't been climbing alone, without a radio, he could have got help and survived. Most climbers climb in teams precisely so they can help each other.
The climbers who initially passed him couldn't see him properly the dark, and by the morning when he could be seen he was in too much trouble to save. Climbers did stop and try to help him, but he couldn't stand even with assistance and his legs and arms were freezing solid up the knees and elbows. It's tragic but if you can't stand or walk, you literally cannot be rescued because no one can carry you in death zone conditions.
Really? Then how is it that a Canadian climber last year managed to rescue another climber who had been left to die in the death zone? The difference is that he was willing to give up making the summit to rescue another human being. That's what we're really talking about. Why not just be honest instead of hiding behind feeble excuses? I'm quite sure that 40 climbers could have worked together to save one person. I'm pretty sure they'd want to be rescued if they got into trouble.
Different circumstances have to be taken into account. Location on the mountian, whether or not the person can move their limbs, if they are conscious, factors like this have to be taken into account. You obviously have no clue what climbing Mt Everest entials. Nothing like lecturing others on Mt Everest when you're sitting nice and cushy on your ass behind a computer screen.
People who climb mount Everest know they could die at any time. They accept the risk.
@LtMercutio Thats BS, First all it was like 40 climbers that passed him not only on their way up, but on their way down (What like half a day, or a day latter)he was still alive that whole time. Camp 3 was not that far below a rescue would of been so easy. And most say he was not way off to the side. Most that are not paid off by Brice, say that he was still clamped to the rope. Thus they had to unclamp and reclamp to go up!!!! I did not see anything but I had to reclamp for some reason? All BS
I am going to climb Everest, but not in that harsh snow, ice, and winter weather. I will instead go in the summer. It will be more like a large, green, grassy hill. I will wear light shorts, sneakers, and a tank top, and use a walking stick. Why people go in the winter is beyond me.
I am very sorry that poor man suffered like he did, I hope he is now at peace.
@emperor0013 Emperor, please watch your language, we can have a civil conversation without you resorting to such crudeness.
I have all the sympathy in the world for those who have died on Everest. I also respect greatly those who have decided to climb Everest in the harsh winter.
For me, I just prefer to climb it in the mild summer, and make it more like a nature hike for personal reasons.
@treetoptop Dude, don't bother with all that "hiking" nonsense. Hop my gondy to the chalet at the top and experience everest with a foot rub, latte and possibly a mild case of pulmonary edema.
It's sort of the risk you have to accept when your climbing in conditions not meant for humans, rescue puts the lives of others in risk as well. It sucks yes, but it's reality for those who want to attempt such a feat.
I run a coffee shop at the top if everest and ive started to wonder if some of the deaths were caused by me no longer washing my hands after going to the toilet
I'm building a gondola to the top of Everest with a chalet. Then I'm gonna charge more than it costs now to summit by climbing; this way, more fat rich dumb people can experience the "thrill" of "conquering" the mountain, while sipping a latte and getting a foot rub in our massage studio on the east deck of the chalet.
@misterfunnybones sounds funny but has a lot of truth. i love mountains but i only go ways that i can go on my own feet and only as high as i myself can make it safely. might be different if i had too much money.... who knows?
Not for ego but for the challenge. Everest (and Vinson) do not interest me as, have some people have suggested, Everest is now commercialised beyond belief (and Vinson may later come into my sights but not just yet). David Sharp understood the risks, as did his parents. If I were stuck on a mountain, no matter how big, I would not expect others to risk their own lives to save mine.
Anyone read 'Dark Summit' about the disasters on Everest during 2006??? It's an unbiased detailing by a jounalist who, a few years later, wasked up to the North Col with Russell Brice, the Himex Team and Sharps parents to lay his body to rest. Mountaineers do not always climb for ego. Granted, some do and the costs alone to step foot on the mountain, let alone hire a support team, are phenomenal. I am a climber and, in order to fulfil certain dreams, will be attempting 5 of the seven summits
ive seen another interview about a similar case like this and the reality is there is nothing you can do for someone at that level of everest. it would take about 10 sherpas that were fully prepared to bring someone down from everest, and at this height by the time people found him it was to late for him. sad but the reality of climbing everest
Many people spend their life savings or sell their homes to go up Everest. A human life should be worth more than 60 grand, but those people had their eyes on the summit. Also, people don't think logically in high altitudes. They may have thought he was OK, or that someone else would rescue him on their way down. When a large group of people witness a person in distress, the trend is to assume someone else will call 911 or help the victim. Many people die because of this.
@ssrwvint many more will also die its a great shame but its the reality of climbing everest that some people will not make it back at those hight's there is nothing that can be done to help..
The climbing of Everest has become in recent times like a Fairground Attraction,I recently watched a video of Sir Edmund Hilarys son climbing Everest.At one point there were over 100 people at the TOP!!! including a man in his bare feet selling ice cream and badges.Everest is the highest mountain but not the most difficult,its become a tragedy in recent years to see it come to this? Roll Up Roll Up pay your money Roll Up Roll Up pay your money!! Yes Sir that kid can pay and go too.Ego maniacs!
Plans are afoot for a 9 yr old Chinese boy to go for the Top of Everest next year.He too will be overly assisted in his attempt ,and no doubt his father will assist financially the Sherpas who will haul him up.He will be given Oxygen of course and most probably a piggy back as a 9 yr old can't climb Everest.For sure they will get him there and even though hes 9 he'll come out with all the cliches you too came out with about life long dream ven though that equates to a few months of dreaming!
According to The Sherpas involved in your ascent of Everest at age 13,They claim that winches were used in hauling you up most of the way from The final camp?.The body of a 10 to 13 yr old is not capable under its own means to climb the last 1800m.They were on bonuses from your Father to get you to the top.Using oxygen and the winches they got you there.Unlike the real climbers 'The Sherpas' who in there teens live and climb at altitude without winches or oxygen help.
actually i just read that they are developing a drone helicopter able to fly to the summit and will be able to do rescues. yeah winch system is out of the question after i looked at the summit wow.i watched that program beyond the limit and wow seems like those guys that were up there were close to dying themselves almost all the ones in the first season had frostbite and had a hard time getting down.especially the frenchman the american tim and the amputee.frenchman lost all fingers and toes
when you reach that you need to be selfish, because if you end up fallin,hope you fall into tibet,12000 ft becaue you live longer. and if your carring someone you have high caner of dieing(falling off) if they live tat is when ou carry them down.
I wouldn't call those 40 climbers selfish at all. I realize how wrong it is to just leave a dieing person there, the climbers have no choice. At that altitude they have 1/3 less oxygen, and there brains get really messed up mentally and physically. They are so weak that they would never have any chance of getting that man anywhere. But on top of that they are mentally not right. Many might just see the body and not think anything, or not even understand that they are dying.
Adventure, fame, and fortune can really come at a very high price. Any person who feels such a dire need to climb so high where his body breaks down is foolish. All the equipment needed for a climb lets people know that they do not belong on extreme altitudes with conditions that are not meant to be inhabited by anyone. Thrills can come at an extreme cost.
People really don't understand about altitude. At 27,000 feet there is roughly 1/3 the oxygen in the air, (really there is 1/3 less air, but what ever) as compared to sea level. We live on around 21% O2, that means at the point where Sharp fell it was like breathing 7% 02. It is a huge difference. At those types of extremes, normal morality/ethics go out the window, it is only about your own survival. He knew what he was getting into, and he did not want to die. But still, he was responsible.
By doing what he did(Sharp) not only endangered himself but others. Sure you could stop and see what you can do but really, What can you do? Carry him? You are already beyond your limit and to try to help someone else is just going to put you in harms way. The man took the risks and failed. He is to blame alone. To the rest of you that feel otherwise you need to have a reality check.
@3shacks1house Sharp was actually climbing with 'Asian Trekking', they had no idea where he was, they wouldnt even collect his belongings from base camp, another expedhad to call his family. sir edmund gave a blasting to the other climbers who left him. Rus Brice has stated that many of the recue ops on everest are from that company and they are very crap.
forty climbers past and they couldn't help him? or wouldn't? or chose not to because they were too fixed in their selfish opinion of the situation. I admit his choice to climb alone was courageous, yet foolish, but the lack of gratitude for a human beings life was sad. This just shows how much people really don't give much of a damn about other people's lives...
@2arunout It's too high for Helicopters to fly up there. It seems obvious to me that Everest is like an addiction and the summit will make people do crazy things. Him for going, others for passing him. Unfortunately life is not like a movie where the good comes out in people in the end and the selfish bad guys die. He should not have gone. I'm sure he knew what he was getting himself into. The whole thing is sad I agree.
That is how he wanted to die.We all should be so lucky.
jasrogg 3 hours ago
Yeargh, now ya know why that old shithead is roastin' in HELL... : P
If you had been honest to people and treated others fairly, then at least you'd been able to sleep well at night knowin' that you did nothin' wrong to nobody.
But that shure wasn't the case with Steve Jobs tho, so he paid the ULTIMATE PRICE by losin' his LIFE and EVERYTHING ELSE he had!
I just wonder how's he gonna spend all that 100+ billion he ripped offa poor innocent folks while he's six feet under?
FUCK Steve Jobs!!!
OtomoTenzi 1 week ago
The Cave where David was found is 1000 ft lower down than the place where Himex had their own people saved in 2001: Below the First Step the distance from the Cave to the high camp is quite short - about 300 ft. When climber's brains are shutting down from O2 deprivation, it takes quite some time to revive them - much more than a few minutes.
shawent 1 week ago
In 2001 a total of 12 people; 9 Sherpas and 3 climbers helped to rescue 2 Himex climbers [Andy and Jaime], one guide and a client, from close to the summit of Everest The three men found Andy and Jaime alive at third step at around 7 am in the morning. They could talk but not move. David, Tap and Jason administered high flow oxygen for almost two hours in addition to high altitude drugs and water to the two men. Next they took Andy and Jaime down, slowly, from 8700 meters all the way to camp.
shawent 1 week ago
@shawent They were lucky that they had trained professionals come to their aid, the people who passed by David Sharp would have been risking their own lives if they stopped and tried to help. Does the report indicate whether the two men could walk of their own steam at all?
royaloreca 1 week ago
@royaloreca Indeed they were very lucky , no,according to all reports neither men could walk when found,they could talk but not move.
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Asked if he would have acted differently had Sharp been a Himex client, Mark Woodward says, "I guess yes. Because as a guide I'm primarily responsible for the people on my expedition. So if he was part of our expedition, yeah, definitely.
shawent 1 week ago
Eric Simonson, an expedition leader on Everest that runs Everest expeditions every year and a man with first hand knowledge in rescuing clients on Everest was appalled at the actions so many climbers. Eric's expedition in 2001 rescued 2 members of the Russell Brice expedition in 2001 from a much higher and much more difficult location (the Third Step) on the mountain "Climbers can be too selfish, "I don't know how those people can sleep at night. It's abhorrent." Simonson was quoted.
shawent 1 week ago
lots of ppl have climbed everest solo, without sherpa and without oxygen.messner thinks its cheating to follow the yellow brick road and lay seige to mountains with all this gear in order to make the top so sharpe wasnt so wreckless as ppl think.what saddens me is the fact that i suspect ppl who passed him on the way up would have known he was in trouble but were too focused on getting to the top to bother. admittedly 9hrs later on the way down he is in a state and cannot be saved.LIFE b4 summit
prettyboyfloydrules 1 week ago
maybe he went to Everest to die - noone knows what he was thinking - but all practical thinking shows he was not concerned with death
tron473 1 week ago
If I ever climed Everest, I would bring a rubber tube so if I got hurt or couldn't make it down, I would just ride the inner tube down to safety.
My1968Impala 2 weeks ago
@My1968Impala and fall down 8000m+ ?
Ouija121085 2 weeks ago
No O2 tanks, No radio, no buddy/sherpa support, he might as well take all his clothes off and danced in the snow at 8000m altitude. I try to feel for this guy but i simply cannot. He was an idiot! you dont go to war without a weapon in your hand. You dont go to desert without water, you dont go to summit Everest without O2 tanks, or radio, or sherpas/buddies! I think he wanted to die! He has tried 2 times before gave up, he has seen bodies of dead climbers there as a warning! I cant feel for him
Ouija121085 2 weeks ago
@Ouija121085 many people have climbed everest solo without oxygen or sherpa support. reinhold messner, alison hargreaves to name a few. on the way back from summit if he couldnt walk then its game over. but what about those who saw him on the way UP when he was in better shape? i think they put their summit bid before helping someone in trouble who may have been in a shape to get down with help. hope they dont need rescuing in the future. they may see things different then
prettyboyfloydrules 1 week ago
@prettyboyfloydrules Yes people have climbed everest without O2 and buddy to help them out. People have falled in river full of crocodiles and managed to get out without a scratch. It doesen't mean they will get out again. You have to be extremely fit to climb without O2 your body has to be in excellent shape to undertake such taxing. It has been shown people who climbed without O2 suffered mild from of brain damage, so messner might say hello to premature dementia.
Ouija121085 1 week ago
@prettyboyfloydrules Futhermore people who climb without 02 at such altiudes are jackasses in their own right, they want to be first at something even putting their life for a footnote "he climbed without O2" other people climbed with O2 and left their bones on everst. What Sharp did was idiotic and irresponsible and he deserved what he got end of story.
Ouija121085 1 week ago
@Ouija121085 I understand there are things you can do to make it safer but never 100%safe, but lets pretend that Sharpe had took oxygen. do you still think that those climbers would have helped him? we cannot be sure but i doubt it would have made any difference. some but not all of those who past him would have suspected he was in trouble but they were too bothered about getting to the top to give a damn.
prettyboyfloydrules 1 week ago
@Ouija121085 so if you see someone in trouble on the way up with oxygen do you still leave them so you can summit yourself? that is the question, NOT whether or not he had oxygen but should one stop to help another out, or is the $40000 youve paid worth more than trying to save a life?
prettyboyfloydrules 1 week ago
@prettyboyfloydrules There is not rescue possible at altitudes 8000m+ if you can't walk you are dead. People up there spend 70% of their energy just to breathe and people breathe 6-10 times and they stop every 10 seconds and rest 5 minutes. There is absolutely no way anyone could pick someone and carry tyem down specially when you haven't been to everest and haven't seen what you have to negotiate. Sure i would stop and ask if they wanted a message relyed to their family.
Ouija121085 1 week ago
@prettyboyfloydrules There is no way to rescue someone at that altitude! It's absolutely impossible! That's the risk climbers take going to Everest!
Ps2Viper87 1 week ago
You dont go unprepared to Everest. This means you need to be physically fit almost like an astronaut, healthy in all sense both mentally and physically. Well prepared meaning having oxygen tanks in case of emergency even if you are going without O2 to show your balls to other climbers... having a radio that works even a back up, and ofcourse you NEVER EVER go alone! if any of these are not on your list you are inviting death and you will most certanly get it.
Ouija121085 2 weeks ago
As the man said, David took a minimalist approach, seriously risky, and paid for it with his life. he also potentially put others who might have rescued him into extreme danger. Rescue is not an option at that altitude, and David probably knew that.
tdbsnr 2 weeks ago
yes this is true. back there is every man for himself. who goes, know it...above 8000 there is no rescue. sorry. RIP david!
leonardopadmadechen 3 weeks ago
part of the risk, its not up to other people to put their own life in danger if you cant climb the mountain. tough luck
joeamos 3 weeks ago
Taking a almost dead man at 8000m is almost a death sentence. I'm very very sorry, but the truth is David Sharp would make the same decision. RIP mountain man.
CaptchaLetters 3 weeks ago
Climbing at over 27,000ft or 8000m its a major effort to look after ones self let alone attend to somebody who is obviously suffering from acute altitude sickness.
Every high altitude climber realises once you venture into the DEATH ZONE as it's called above 8000m anything can happen and if you run into trouble and cannot look after yourself nobody has the physical energy to help you.
Just look at how many dead bodies litter the slopes of Everest, it's one very dangerous place to be.
llandudnoboy 1 month ago 2
Unless you are a medical professional how would you know if someone was 'saveable', or not.
Welencier05 1 month ago
@Welencier05 Simple, at Everest if you colapse down and you cannot walk you are dead. If you can walk then there is a chance of you being helped and maybe saved by determined and experienced climbers which should be in every team. You cannot expect anyone to carry you down its impossible as thsoe around you are also on "borrowed" time and noone has the strengt to carry you down.
Ouija121085 2 weeks ago
climbing mount everest is an awesome way to die. they would all die if they tried to drag him down. everybody dies...
jackstained 1 month ago
The good Samaritan ????
JoeSoap68 1 month ago
No one can be rescued at that altitude, it's just simply impossible. It's a tragedy, but these are the risks of such a brutal climb.
mozmal 1 month ago 2
Time for some capitalist to build a ski lift... Don't forget the billboards...
McDaidUSA 2 months ago 10
He was spotted by a Mark Inglis party, a large party that could have shared his weight if they had been selfless enough to abandon their ascent while they were still fresh and had oxygen.
Instead they chose to go on and then having "triumphed" the mountain (read gotten their moneys worth) they on their way down radiod basecamp. Ofcourse they lied that they had radioed during the ascent but that disproven. I do hope karma has caught up atleast some of them, die cold,miserable LONELY deaths.
mimijulia00 2 months ago
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During WWII fighter pilots were known to continue firing at a target all the way into the ground, they called this target fixation. I often think of climbing Everest as a form of target fixation, your brain is swelling, you feel like shit, but you keep pushing on anyhow until your body fails you and you end up like David Sharp.
A helicopter made a successful landing on the summit, so if one were specifically designed for a high altitude rescue, the next step would be to sell rescue insurance.
Zyworski 2 months ago
he should nt have travelled alone but then again why didn't anyone help in any way the people climbing must have had radios or something
but as bobsmvimto said last comment down we how can we judge them whilst we're here at a level with thick filled oxygen
abirneji 3 months ago
@abirneji that far up the mountain, helicopters couldn't get there (because of the wind and elevation). The guy was unconscious, so they probably weren't able to "carry" him down safely with the equipment they had.
JustinBaker2567 3 months ago
I don't think any of us can sit in judgement down here at a level filled with thick oxygen.
bodsnvimto 3 months ago
he knew what he did... so he had to take the consequences
PredictorsRage 3 months ago
its a very silly way to go...if only half the enthusiasm funding and human ability of all the mountain climbs, was put into getting man into space and exploring planets - then we could call that real human progress...look beyond the mountain tops...way beyond
wellohmeeeeeee 4 months ago
After doing a bit of research into mountain climbing, especially Evereest. The only person to blame for the death of David Sharp, is David Sharp. He climbed alone, no radio, no oxygen and in the worst weather on a deadly journey. He knew the risks he was taking. The other climbers are not to blame. They have to wrry about themselves in that environment. They have b ut what they need to get up there and back and little else. David Sharp was a fool and died a fools death. Cold, but truthful.
sreif78 4 months ago in playlist Season 2
aaahhh this is so sad )):
mimprincesa 4 months ago
He was impossible to save also because of his location on the mountain. Prior to this incident a team of Korean climbers had the sole mission of recovering a body from about that height... They moved him 500ft and gave up. At that altitude every step is a struggle let alone with dead weight and the famous steps (eg the hillary step) to think about. It simply would have been impossible to recover him.
EvanFay 4 months ago
Okay I agree everything is heavier but what about the ones going up why didn't they forget the climb n save a life!
editica43 4 months ago
Why do they expect people to risk the lives of multiple men for one who would have most likely died on the way down anyway?
DerHund57 5 months ago
People die every second for far more preventable reasons. Why do people get their panties in a bunch about some guy who took a risk and lost? There seems to be this belief that human life is so precious that extending it at all cost is something that should be done no matter the risk to others. But how many of these armchair critics are reaching deep and risking their mortgage for example to help starving children, but they expect others to risk their lives for one guy trying to do Everest solo.
ralph17p 5 months ago 31
@ralph17p ... its much more about the fact that fellow climbers simply ignored a man who when they had initially discovered him was very much 'save-able'.
harrisontan 2 months ago
@harrisontan maybe he was saveable, but only at great personal risk to anyone attempting it. My personal opinion is that people do these sort of minimalist solo climbs in the full knowledge that resue at altitude is very unlikely. So why criticize anyone for not risking their own neck to save this guy? What's the rationale? If it's every life is precious (which I don't exactly agree with myself) then what are these critics doing to personally save lives, which is as simple as writing a check?
ralph17p 2 months ago
Thats really too bad.... I feel so bad.
Bacon4life10 5 months ago
What up with the betty white commercial?!?
ThatIsSomePig 6 months ago
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jimpornse 6 months ago
Wait wait wait. Is his body still there?
FlimsyRock 6 months ago
@FlimsyRock
lol.. yes it is. like hundred others
jimpornse 6 months ago
@FlimsyRock Everyone who dies on Everest remains there.
Touchthesky412 6 months ago
@FlimsyRock Yes. As far as I know, David Sharp is still huddled up there in Green Boots Cave.
After being forced to leave Francys Arsentiev to die in 1998, Ian Woodall and Cathy O'Dowd went back in 2007 to gather stones and inter the bodies of Arsentiev, Tsewang "Green Boots" Paljor and, by some accounts, David Sharp. They ended up having to drag Arsentiev to a crevice and drop her in, giving up before even touching Paljor and Sharp. So Paljor and Sharp are still up there, sharing a cave.
BloodyBay 2 months ago
I'd have rode him down the hill just like grandpa simpson.
dashman14 6 months ago
You can barely save yourself let alone anyone else.
TheNineveh 6 months ago
no chance to bring him down, no chance...yet they mention lincoln hall, who was later carried off the mountain...from a higher elevation. hell, mark inglis's dumb ass was carried down, too.
burblx 6 months ago
They dont take the bodies off of Everest because it is to hard to do. So when they get back down they make memorials in honor of the ones who died. You guys should read about Beck Weathers. Incredible.
LawlzoreKing 6 months ago
Rainbow valley,green boots,
marsJOHNYmars 7 months ago
If he can't walk and you can't physical lift him what are you meant to do? That's a really hard question you can't judge the people who left him there it was his life or theirs. Sounds harsh, yes but you can't deny you wouldn't hold your own life over his. I would try to help but at the risk of dying myself? Nope, it's sad that I would say that but it's the truth.
It's sad that he most likely died on his own but he knew the risks and he did take the minimalist approach.
Mooam 7 months ago
big booty on 2:11. lolx
PeaceGurlIsMyName 7 months ago
@misterfunnybones When does it open?
janmadytay 7 months ago
Frankly some blame should go to David Sharp for taking such a minimilast and dangerous approach to climbing. He put everyone else in jeopardy by being so irresponsible.
Spudst3r 8 months ago
@Spudst3r I agree with you. This mountain is known to attract swarms of underskilled people all risking life and limb (literally) for their shot at glory, many of them who are just barely able to bring themselves back alive, and yet even most of them travel in a party with sherpas for contingency plans. He took a gamble and he lost. This is like playing with fire and assuming anyone nearby should save you even though they aren't firemen. Sharps own mother admitted nobody owed him their help
slunkmonky 7 months ago
Egotistical, highly selfish people, shame on all of them!
jetpowered1 8 months ago
@jetpowered1
Never been to Everest, I see. Go climb the mountain and get a reality check.
loner1878 7 months ago
Sad, but all those climbers know the risks before they climb.
firespinguy 8 months ago
i really wanna go there
leon6266 8 months ago
to say that people couldn`t see him in the darks is complete bullocks. while you are going up, in the dark, you look every square cm arround you to see what you are doing so you don`t die . he is resting.. come on... no one goes to sleep there. sleeping kills.you could shake him up a bit, see if he`s alive.it costs nothing,most of the time you are standing still on the mt
sssalexsss07 8 months ago
@sssalexsss07
Shaking him would have done nothing. His limbs were frozen in place and he couldn't move. If you can't move you're pretty much done for.
loner1878 7 months ago
They ALL should be hung on that mountain!! Helping him was not an option with 40 PEAPLE walking by! They are absolutely the biggest pussies on this planet!! If someone had the balls to tell me this story to my face I would drag his faggot ass up that mountain and chain him to a fucking tree and watch the poor bastard die!! You fucking worthless cowards and they call themselves MEN! Sorry fucking saps! That's unreal! You die saving him if you have to & that is no option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beefer413 8 months ago 2
@Beefer413 You don't understand high altitude climbing, it's called the death zone for a reason. The ground is too steep to carry him, you can barely climb up and down by yourself due to the steepness and lack of oxygen. It's also too steep and rugged for a litter, and too difficult to even bring an unloaded litter up. Basically you are on you own and everyone knows that before they begin the climb.
gt40f 8 months ago
@Beefer413
Nothing like childish naivety. Two minutes on that mountain and you would be crying for your mommy. Fucking idiot.
loner1878 7 months ago
Doesn't anyone bring a three pound, solar powered, rechargeable heater up there?
It's saved my life and it can save others too.
Nedcone13 8 months ago
they call it the death zone for a reason
aikigeorge3 9 months ago 2
What else your supposd to do wait there and die you to? move on ffs he wanted it self OH THE FEELING OF BEING TOP OF MOUNT EVERST SO COOL not?
PePsiilingo 9 months ago
i mean when you go up to the summit, you have to understand that you have a big risk of dying. He was alone, and didn't have any support or Sherpas to help him. When your up by the summit, if your in trouble, it's basically impossible for someone else to help you. I don't blame the other guys for walking past, because you shouldn't risk your life or safety for someone else's stupidity.
09fcinter 9 months ago 2
They are not humans – insects.
catchyfox 9 months ago
Они не люди – только насекомые.
catchyfox 9 months ago
why the hell people wanna go there ? , you need to be insane to even attempt this kind of extreme level mountain climbing . people take chances , fully knowing the risks and consequences of their endevours , if something goes wrong . Do they deserve sympathy ? . I doubt .
umeshy2k 9 months ago
No Pain No Gain...
TheKingPhisher 10 months ago
@sabershuksan Dont understand. Tell me gist of the ogre story I dont have time to read. Oh and if shock is so cool why is it so dangerous- seems counter productive to me. Now tell me the ogre story NOW.
Pentdad 10 months ago
@sabershuksan Sounds like someone woke up with some santorum in their mouth...
misterfunnybones 10 months ago
@sabershuksan I agree. Alpine climbing is the real deal, while having a group of Sherpa carry you & your stuff up a peak is not. If you need O2 bottles to get up a mountain, you're too high. lol
seigheilz88 10 months ago
These masochists that spend $50k to suffer for a final 18 hour push to the summit and back should all die and leave their money to people like me with more sense. I'd spend the money providing free drugs, marginal shelter and free food to homeless.
The "real" mountaineers climb K2...were the death rate is 27/100.
seigheilz88 10 months ago
@seigheilz88 you're a fuckin idiot who has no idea what you're talking about.
libertygone 10 months ago
@libertygone I'm a mountaineer with 30 yrs experience, twat. Go suck on a Baboon's ass and bow down to your master, fool.
seigheilz88 10 months ago
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@seigheilz88 "These masochists that spend $50k to suffer for a final 18 hour push to the summit and back should all die and leave their money to people like me with more sense. "
You seriously think 50,000 dollars spent in NEPAL is wasted money compared to spending it in any Western economy??
fuzzywzhe 10 months ago
@fuzzywzhe Yes, I do. In the supposedly wealthy, caring USA, live millions of kids going to bed hungry every night. We should spend the trillions wasted on the military complex and paying interest to greedy jooish bankers creating off the grid communities where the poor could thrive. I wager I could lose 70% of the folks climbing Everest on lowly routes in the Sierra's.
seigheilz88 10 months ago
@seigheilz88 The United States is the most wasteful country in the world. The last place that needs capital investment is the United States.
Better to have a bunch of dumb idiots spending $50,000 to kill themselves in Nepal than to waste it here to save morons from themselves. One of the Sherpas opened a school in Nepal from his earnings. You don't even need to do that here.
fuzzywzhe 10 months ago
Am I the only one who finds dead bodies interesting?
x80sLove 10 months ago
@x80sLove No I have been looking it up on and off for a week.
Pentdad 10 months ago
I think it was Russel Brice that correctly said, 'You might as well be on the Moon!'. Although that sounds far fetched and dramatic, he is literally right, when you're struggling to stay alive yourself, it just isn't realistic to expect to carry an inanimate body down with you.
Maroonmachine 10 months ago
You take your chances up there. If it is "possible" to save someone and realistic then you take a stab at it but this whole idea that you put yourself in serious danger to save someone who had a "minimalist" approach to begin with is absurd. You want to have a "minimalist" approach. Fine. If it goes wrong then you're pretty much on your own. As far as I'm concerned you're pretty much "on your own" at a certain point. This whole idea of "idealism" around mountain climbing is for the birds.
kentucy9999 11 months ago 22
I thought it was rather ridiculous that the media got all hyped over this. Its so easy to cast a decision you think you can make if you are in the situation. The death zone is just that andyou cant be carried out. Its a sad story but the mountain is unforgiving
harveydeadman 11 months ago 3
"in the end not the most unpleasnant way to go simply drift off to permanet sleep" cetiee your a tool that would be horibol frost bit sucks so much let alone hole limbs frezen that would be worse then buring to death it would be like slowly buring to death for ten hourse. the people that past him should have at lest tride 40 guys they could have esily done it
thunderpig1000 11 months ago
@thunderpig1000 Wrong..your body goes into shock not long after you stop moving. I have been in shock from being in an accident where I was in icy water. After about 5 minutes of feeling the extreme cold I did not feel cold anymore and actually felt warm and very disoriented, almost like being very drunk. I was saved about 10 minutes they said before I would have died. I know what it feels like, and cetieel is right, I could think of countless ways worse to die. Shock sets in and you go numb.
MrUS1972 11 months ago
@MrUS1972 Why would you have died? Didnt shock save your body in theory? Tell me more.
Pentdad 10 months ago
In the end the chap made a decision to climb. He would have known the risks. Even if they had managed to get him to his feet he was probably at best suffering from hypoxia and at the worst HAPE.
In that shape he was not going to get down.
Rob Hall and Scott Fisher in 96 on Everest knew they had had it and I am sure Mr Sharp did too .
In the end not the most unpleasant way to go to simply drift off to permanent sleep
May he and all those gone before him on that mountain rest in it's lap.
cetieel 11 months ago
This is why it is always important to understand the risks associated with this sport.
MonkeyWrench1988 1 year ago
You may think that it is unhuman, but you would risk your own life without any chance to save him in the condition he was.
And finally, it was his own decision to do what he did. There was no necessity to do that and he tried two times without success. Perhaps, he was - that sounds hard - just not fit enough to climb that highest mountain! It's not a tourist sightseeing trip!!!
heiopei1980 1 year ago
I' am sorry for my bad english, but I'm trying to make it understandable for everyone. I've been in hard mountain conditions with the mountain rangers and we have trained to rescue people from the top of these mountains. You cannot imagine what that means, even in five or six thousand meters height. From that point of view, it seems to be impossible for me to rescue someone from that position.
heiopei1980 1 year ago 3
Doesn't sound like it was "feasible" to bring Mr. Sharp down. I realize it sounds heartless people walking by an all. Perhaps if there were a group of 2 excellent Sherpa's with a couple of Reinhold Meisner's they might have done something to help him but I'm sure that wasn't the case. If it had been a realistic opportunity I'm sure something would have been done. You're a slave to the elements and the "situation" up there. In alot of cases you're "on your own."
kentucy9999 1 year ago
If you was to build a gondola, everyone would die of altitude, thats why it takes around 70 days to climb
matterhorn1975 1 year ago
@matterhorn1975 two words "oxygen". Just pipe that crap up in a line w/ a gondola
seige184 1 year ago
everyone knows the risks of climbing a mountain like everest. after a certain point your basically unsavable
wesleyt105 1 year ago
Like Ivan Drago said in Rocky 4; "If he dies, he dies."
brian8793 1 year ago
Every climber that goes to Everest knows the risk. It is unfair and even mean to expect another climber to carry you down because you have bitten off more than you can chew. David Sharp died doing what he loved to do. I have heard his last phone call to his wife. He would not expect them to die trying to rescue him. The only people who expect that don't know the climbing world. My late husband loved climbing the high mountains. Even he said you take your life in "your hands.
TheTumbleweed61 1 year ago 9
just use a atomic bomb, and reduce the size of everest. what a waste of people. is really bizarre this sport.
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@Jacobabar
@Thegreasepit
Watch "The Dark Side of Everest," you can find part one under the "Related Videos" section, and see if you don't feel differently afterwards.
Just look at the guy that got frostbitten so bad his hands had to be amputated, and imagine yourself AS him on that mountian. That's called empathy. I know slimeballs such as yourselves are typically incapable of real, human emotions, but try anyway. You might be surprised.
macgeek2004 1 year ago
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@21087387
@TheGreasepit
@Jacobabar
This world would be a far better place w/o VILE, SICK, FUCKS like you!
Please thumbs up if you agree. I can't be alone on this.
macgeek2004 1 year ago
@21087387
@TheGreasepit
@Jacobabar
Maybe as you lie there, fucking DYING and unable to move or call for help, you might have a change of heart! You people seriously make me vomit! You're SICK, DISGUSTING, VILE, *PATHETIC* excuses of human beings, and it's *YOU* who don't deserve to live!
After all, this guy has far bigger BALLS than you're sorry asses can ever even PRETEND to have!
macgeek2004 1 year ago
@macgeek2004
u mad. You have no idea at all what it feels like to be up at tat high of an altitude, with barely enough oxygen to breathe, after having climbed 26,000 feet for the past 4 days, in the blistering cold. Compare it to this because I know at least you can relate to this you fat sh*t. Imagine your fat ass goes on a 5 km run (I know you would never even make it past 1km and passing out,) When your done, your fat ass will fall to the ground and ull puke.That's how the climbers feel
towatch18upvideos 7 months ago
@towatch18upvideos Why do you hate fat people?
Sublue 6 months ago
@Sublue
Because health should be basic human instinct, their is no excuse for being fat other than lack of self control and discipine. If your fat ass would eat healthy and regularly excersize, you wouldn't be fat, period. The only excuse for being fat is if you are handi-cap or very sick, otherwise blaming it on genetics or that you've "tried everything" to lose wait, is nothing short of a pathetic joke. Good day to you, fat sir.
towatch18upvideos 6 months ago
@towatch18upvideos fuck u asshole..im fat bcoz drink 27 beers a day and fried chicken too so fuck u
findlaymcarthur 6 months ago
@macgeek2004
To continue my post, after a 5km run you will drop to the floor, and fall asleep after puking your fat ass guts out. After a 5km run could you imagine picking up a person onto your back and going another 5km lmao? Your a total f*cking idiot, it would be commiting suicide yourself f*cking queer phaggot. I SWEAR you are one cheeky f*cking C*unt mate to judge other people, I'll beat ur ass if i ever met you f*cking phaggot, I swear on my mums life, queer.
towatch18upvideos 7 months ago
@21087387
@TheGreasepit
@Jacobabar
You people are fucking sick, heartless monsters! Sure he might've made a foolish mistake taking that minimalist approach, but that means he deserves to DIE?? WHAT THE FUCK'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?!?!
I honestly hope that, someday, when you're caught in an avalanche on your next skiing trip or trapped under debris when your plane crashes on the side of a mountian, that rescuers don't waste their fucking time and money on your sick, sorry asses.
macgeek2004 1 year ago
hahaha....too fuckin funny.....let me see...do I feel sorry or remorse for these poor fucks........ummmmmm..........not a fuckin chance........and the stunned Brit...his 3rd attempt.........and noone ever mentions the costs involved to rescue these greaseballs, or the dangers...they should be on their own, if they don't live...fuck em...preserved in ice forever.........
TheGreasepit 1 year ago
3rd attempt............ minimalism approach to climbing, no sherpa support and no contact with other expeditions worst of all no fucking radio!!!! what the fuck was this guy doing???? I don't feel sorry............... Listening to the video it could have happened in a "dark street" of any major city........... when you climb and at that altitude you have tunnel vision. climbing is fucking HARD, accept the RISKS or just fuck off!!!!
21087387 1 year ago
EVEREST YOU WANT YOUR ASS UP THERE YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU AND ONLY YOU GET THAT ASS BACK DOWN FIRST OF ALL YOU A FUCKING MORON TO GO THERE TO BEGIN WITH FUCK YOUR EGO AND FUCK YOU!!! its been done over and over nobody cares
jacobabar 1 year ago
The only people who are questioning these people are the stupid media who is looking to create a story and all the people that have never climbed in their life. Anyone who has climbed will tell you that you as a climber take all the risk and you do not expect anyone to help. most people who climb have sacrificed months and years to get ready for the climb and have spent $20K+ per climb so to give that up to help someone is very difficult.
jaknap1 1 year ago
@jaknap1 one big materialistic ballshit
ego78th 1 year ago
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ego78th 1 year ago
and mister funnybones shut the fuck up you dum ass nobody likes you. i hope someones throws you off Everest if you ever have the balls to climb the frigen thing!
inexperiencedclimber 1 year ago
@inexperiencedclimber I climb on the balls of my feet...that's right, even my feet have balls. From your username, I take it you'll want to take the gondola.
misterfunnybones 1 year ago
I would rather die trying to get the man down of the mountian and lose glory of the summit rather than walk right by and have the dieing man's facial image imprinted on my mind .
inexperiencedclimber 1 year ago 3
Idiots in the media and on YouTube, there are no rescues in the death zone, olympic caliber athletes can barely summit. If you can't get up and back on you own you are dead. Not to mention the technical aspects of rescuing someone on steep ground.
gt40f 1 year ago
It's just so easy to make judgments living in the comfort of homes at, in most cases, places below 3000m altitude... There is no way helicopters could go there, for instance. The "Death Zone" does have this name for a reason, it's a zone where it is almost physically impossible to mount a rescue.
Moreover, bear in mind that many expeditions are formed by 2/3 experienced true mountaineers and many others who are just "paying costumers" with NO ability or training for rescues.
lotwyo 1 year ago
This isn't the fault of any of the climbers that passed him. You can't help someone you can't see in the dark and you can't help someone who is already under a death sentence. If Sharp hadn't been climbing alone, without a radio, he could have got help and survived. Most climbers climb in teams precisely so they can help each other.
LtMercutio 1 year ago
The climbers who initially passed him couldn't see him properly the dark, and by the morning when he could be seen he was in too much trouble to save. Climbers did stop and try to help him, but he couldn't stand even with assistance and his legs and arms were freezing solid up the knees and elbows. It's tragic but if you can't stand or walk, you literally cannot be rescued because no one can carry you in death zone conditions.
LtMercutio 1 year ago 67
@LtMercutio
Really? Then how is it that a Canadian climber last year managed to rescue another climber who had been left to die in the death zone? The difference is that he was willing to give up making the summit to rescue another human being. That's what we're really talking about. Why not just be honest instead of hiding behind feeble excuses? I'm quite sure that 40 climbers could have worked together to save one person. I'm pretty sure they'd want to be rescued if they got into trouble.
DeepWaterStillness 8 months ago
@DeepWaterStillness
you got it right
Effetier 7 months ago
@DeepWaterStillness
Different circumstances have to be taken into account. Location on the mountian, whether or not the person can move their limbs, if they are conscious, factors like this have to be taken into account. You obviously have no clue what climbing Mt Everest entials. Nothing like lecturing others on Mt Everest when you're sitting nice and cushy on your ass behind a computer screen.
People who climb mount Everest know they could die at any time. They accept the risk.
loner1878 7 months ago
@DeepWaterStillness
You must be fucking stupid.
ValhallaRockstar 7 months ago
@LtMercutio Thats BS, First all it was like 40 climbers that passed him not only on their way up, but on their way down (What like half a day, or a day latter)he was still alive that whole time. Camp 3 was not that far below a rescue would of been so easy. And most say he was not way off to the side. Most that are not paid off by Brice, say that he was still clamped to the rope. Thus they had to unclamp and reclamp to go up!!!! I did not see anything but I had to reclamp for some reason? All BS
BlueTransAm83 6 months ago
God Bless His soul. Rest In Peace
joey7286 1 year ago
@joey7286 Thank for you bearing witness and a fine message indeed, amen.
treetoptop 1 year ago
@treetoptop Amen
joey7286 1 year ago
I am going to climb Everest, but not in that harsh snow, ice, and winter weather. I will instead go in the summer. It will be more like a large, green, grassy hill. I will wear light shorts, sneakers, and a tank top, and use a walking stick. Why people go in the winter is beyond me.
I am very sorry that poor man suffered like he did, I hope he is now at peace.
treetoptop 1 year ago
@treetoptop Holy fucking shit, PLEASE be trolling. You MUST be trolling.
emperor0013 1 year ago
@emperor0013 Emperor, please watch your language, we can have a civil conversation without you resorting to such crudeness.
I have all the sympathy in the world for those who have died on Everest. I also respect greatly those who have decided to climb Everest in the harsh winter.
For me, I just prefer to climb it in the mild summer, and make it more like a nature hike for personal reasons.
treetoptop 1 year ago
@treetoptop Watch my language? Fuck you. Welcome to the internet.
emperor0013 1 year ago
@emperor0013 I am praying for you, you need it.
treetoptop 1 year ago
@treetoptop Dude, don't bother with all that "hiking" nonsense. Hop my gondy to the chalet at the top and experience everest with a foot rub, latte and possibly a mild case of pulmonary edema.
misterfunnybones 1 year ago
@treetoptop are u trolling
brigeboy95 1 year ago
It's sort of the risk you have to accept when your climbing in conditions not meant for humans, rescue puts the lives of others in risk as well. It sucks yes, but it's reality for those who want to attempt such a feat.
CultureTakesTheSyn 1 year ago
I run a coffee shop at the top if everest and ive started to wonder if some of the deaths were caused by me no longer washing my hands after going to the toilet
zeltarg 1 year ago
I'm building a gondola to the top of Everest with a chalet. Then I'm gonna charge more than it costs now to summit by climbing; this way, more fat rich dumb people can experience the "thrill" of "conquering" the mountain, while sipping a latte and getting a foot rub in our massage studio on the east deck of the chalet.
misterfunnybones 1 year ago 34
@misterfunnybones sounds funny but has a lot of truth. i love mountains but i only go ways that i can go on my own feet and only as high as i myself can make it safely. might be different if i had too much money.... who knows?
mefromhereandthere1 1 year ago
Not for ego but for the challenge. Everest (and Vinson) do not interest me as, have some people have suggested, Everest is now commercialised beyond belief (and Vinson may later come into my sights but not just yet). David Sharp understood the risks, as did his parents. If I were stuck on a mountain, no matter how big, I would not expect others to risk their own lives to save mine.
postorgchill 1 year ago
Anyone read 'Dark Summit' about the disasters on Everest during 2006??? It's an unbiased detailing by a jounalist who, a few years later, wasked up to the North Col with Russell Brice, the Himex Team and Sharps parents to lay his body to rest. Mountaineers do not always climb for ego. Granted, some do and the costs alone to step foot on the mountain, let alone hire a support team, are phenomenal. I am a climber and, in order to fulfil certain dreams, will be attempting 5 of the seven summits
postorgchill 1 year ago
ive seen another interview about a similar case like this and the reality is there is nothing you can do for someone at that level of everest. it would take about 10 sherpas that were fully prepared to bring someone down from everest, and at this height by the time people found him it was to late for him. sad but the reality of climbing everest
kentiesmon 1 year ago
Many people spend their life savings or sell their homes to go up Everest. A human life should be worth more than 60 grand, but those people had their eyes on the summit. Also, people don't think logically in high altitudes. They may have thought he was OK, or that someone else would rescue him on their way down. When a large group of people witness a person in distress, the trend is to assume someone else will call 911 or help the victim. Many people die because of this.
ssrwvint 1 year ago
@ssrwvint many more will also die its a great shame but its the reality of climbing everest that some people will not make it back at those hight's there is nothing that can be done to help..
liqwon1151 1 year ago
The climbing of Everest has become in recent times like a Fairground Attraction,I recently watched a video of Sir Edmund Hilarys son climbing Everest.At one point there were over 100 people at the TOP!!! including a man in his bare feet selling ice cream and badges.Everest is the highest mountain but not the most difficult,its become a tragedy in recent years to see it come to this? Roll Up Roll Up pay your money Roll Up Roll Up pay your money!! Yes Sir that kid can pay and go too.Ego maniacs!
BillKelly13 1 year ago 2
Plans are afoot for a 9 yr old Chinese boy to go for the Top of Everest next year.He too will be overly assisted in his attempt ,and no doubt his father will assist financially the Sherpas who will haul him up.He will be given Oxygen of course and most probably a piggy back as a 9 yr old can't climb Everest.For sure they will get him there and even though hes 9 he'll come out with all the cliches you too came out with about life long dream ven though that equates to a few months of dreaming!
BillKelly13 1 year ago
According to The Sherpas involved in your ascent of Everest at age 13,They claim that winches were used in hauling you up most of the way from The final camp?.The body of a 10 to 13 yr old is not capable under its own means to climb the last 1800m.They were on bonuses from your Father to get you to the top.Using oxygen and the winches they got you there.Unlike the real climbers 'The Sherpas' who in there teens live and climb at altitude without winches or oxygen help.
BillKelly13 1 year ago
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BillKelly13 1 year ago
actually i just read that they are developing a drone helicopter able to fly to the summit and will be able to do rescues. yeah winch system is out of the question after i looked at the summit wow.i watched that program beyond the limit and wow seems like those guys that were up there were close to dying themselves almost all the ones in the first season had frostbite and had a hard time getting down.especially the frenchman the american tim and the amputee.frenchman lost all fingers and toes
flightvegas 1 year ago
when you reach that you need to be selfish, because if you end up fallin,hope you fall into tibet,12000 ft becaue you live longer. and if your carring someone you have high caner of dieing(falling off) if they live tat is when ou carry them down.
miskers12 1 year ago
winch system?????? jesus....
darrenjamescox 1 year ago
Heh. lol
AstralXRomance1 1 year ago
im not a climber but have become interested in it for sure.i was wondering cant they establish some sort of winch system to lower people down?
flightvegas 1 year ago
I wouldn't call those 40 climbers selfish at all. I realize how wrong it is to just leave a dieing person there, the climbers have no choice. At that altitude they have 1/3 less oxygen, and there brains get really messed up mentally and physically. They are so weak that they would never have any chance of getting that man anywhere. But on top of that they are mentally not right. Many might just see the body and not think anything, or not even understand that they are dying.
Co1oneI 1 year ago
Adventure, fame, and fortune can really come at a very high price. Any person who feels such a dire need to climb so high where his body breaks down is foolish. All the equipment needed for a climb lets people know that they do not belong on extreme altitudes with conditions that are not meant to be inhabited by anyone. Thrills can come at an extreme cost.
Treaty4 1 year ago
People really don't understand about altitude. At 27,000 feet there is roughly 1/3 the oxygen in the air, (really there is 1/3 less air, but what ever) as compared to sea level. We live on around 21% O2, that means at the point where Sharp fell it was like breathing 7% 02. It is a huge difference. At those types of extremes, normal morality/ethics go out the window, it is only about your own survival. He knew what he was getting into, and he did not want to die. But still, he was responsible.
geoPhaze 1 year ago
By doing what he did(Sharp) not only endangered himself but others. Sure you could stop and see what you can do but really, What can you do? Carry him? You are already beyond your limit and to try to help someone else is just going to put you in harms way. The man took the risks and failed. He is to blame alone. To the rest of you that feel otherwise you need to have a reality check.
3shacks1house 1 year ago
@3shacks1house Sharp was actually climbing with 'Asian Trekking', they had no idea where he was, they wouldnt even collect his belongings from base camp, another expedhad to call his family. sir edmund gave a blasting to the other climbers who left him. Rus Brice has stated that many of the recue ops on everest are from that company and they are very crap.
benjaminjb 1 year ago
forty climbers past and they couldn't help him? or wouldn't? or chose not to because they were too fixed in their selfish opinion of the situation. I admit his choice to climb alone was courageous, yet foolish, but the lack of gratitude for a human beings life was sad. This just shows how much people really don't give much of a damn about other people's lives...
2arunout 1 year ago
@2arunout It's too high for Helicopters to fly up there. It seems obvious to me that Everest is like an addiction and the summit will make people do crazy things. Him for going, others for passing him. Unfortunately life is not like a movie where the good comes out in people in the end and the selfish bad guys die. He should not have gone. I'm sure he knew what he was getting himself into. The whole thing is sad I agree.
Agapolish 1 year ago