What a bust. What use is all that speed and strength if he can't even use it properly? Even with Rex he couldn't make any plays. We could've used Jerod Mayo or Sendrick Ellis, Rodgers-Cromartie, Chris Johnson, Mendenhall, Talib who ALL went after him. Good lord.
@JForcE777 : Maybe it had to do with his strengths not being used properly rather than him not properly using his strengths? The Jets weren't really a perfect fit for him and he's seems like he might be the kind of soft spoken personality that let the NY media get to him. At 25 with his physical attributes he could still have a good career with the right mentoring. Rod Marinelli in Chicago might just be that guy. He's a defensive line guru.
Vernon Gholston is not a bust, he was OVER Drafted. Lawrence Wilson was supposed to be the starter, but he got hurt, Gholston took his job. Gholston had a reputation for having a low Football I.Q. and questionable motor. He got drafted high because of the last 3 games of his Jr. year, and his combine workout. If you watch him versus Jake Long, when they were in college, he drives his ass on every run play.
Anyone who thinks this is a credit to Gholston knows nothing about football or blocking schemes. Long couldn't block Gholston because he was the guard's responsibility. Actually watch, it's an obvious spread protection scheme called, everyone except the left guard moved outward on the snap, the guard moved in, creating a gaping hole that Gholston went through. It's true that the first step blew the protection, it was just the guard's step, not Long's.
actually playing football in the nfl = vernon gholstons worst nightmare. the guy didnt even dress for like 8 games in his rookie year. he wasnt hurt, it was because he sucks.
Vernon Gholston was incredible during College, as a Jet fan I'm pretty surprised we have such a good player on our team and we're not taking advantage of. The guy could be a hybrid player that can play outside linebacker or move to defensive end, sort of like an Adalius Thomas.
Hopefully Rex Ryan with his extensive defensive knowledge can put this guy into use. Would be great to have David Harris, Bart Scott, Calvin Pace and Vernon Gholston all anchoring that linebacker core.
Gholston went inside, but Long was expecting an outside rush. thats why Long had to correct his angle and couldnt get a proper block on gholston. and the running back couldnt cut gholston because that would be a chop block.
@ohiostatebucks86: Dude, Jake owned him that game. This was only the second sack he allowed at Michigan and Gholston had a horrible game other than this one play. Watch the entire game again and get back with me on "longs worst nightmare". And yes, I do know the final score.
I'd be pissed off too if my team was 1-7 against Jim Tressel. Watch out for those Division AA teams, maybe next year your joke of a football program will win more than three games.
This video was put up a year ago and was just an impressive move by an OSU player. No looking into his future or anything like that. You're clearly a Walmart Michigan fan so I'll leave you alone.
your an idiot ure nicknames "suckeyes" makes u seem like ure five years old. Grow the fuck up dude... true statements bullshit. talk like ure a mature person please than attempt to speak the truth. fuckin moron.
look a mario williams: unbelievable build, skills, and all that but had trouble his rookie year. he is th perfect the build for a ROLB, maybe not in a 3-4, but eventually he'll find his place. and workin with larence taylor doesnt hurt either.
He is not a bust; just a major disappointment. If we get Rex Ryan, he should be a decent player in 2nd second year. Unlike Mangini, that guy knows how to run a 3-4 D. Even if Gholston doesn't move the way he likes in coverage, he'll have that kid out there just to rush the QB. Made no sense at all that Mangini treated his rookie year like an f'ing redshirt season with the kind of money we were paying him. He should've been out there EVERY GAME, putting what he learned in practice to the test.
Edit: He is not a bust; just a major disappointment. If we get Rex Ryan, he'll be much better in his 2nd year. Unlike Mangini, that guy knows how to run a 3-4 D. Even if Gholston doesn't move the way he likes in coverage, he'll have him out there just to rush the QB. Made no damn sense at all that Mangini treated his rookie year like a f'ing redshirt season with the kind of money we were paying him. He should've been out there EVERY GAME, putting what he learned in practice to the test.
No Jake Long doesnt have the best feet which is why I think as good as he is he isnt Joe Thomas. JL was the best OT from this draft but he isnt the best OT. But yeah that was the knock on him in draft analysis. He doesnt have quick feet and doesnt set as fast as he should. He relied to much on his upper body strength to overpower his opponets.
Actually Jake Long stepped out because it was spread pass protection and Kraus(LG) didn't step out like he was supposed to leaving a gaping hole that anyone could have gone through. And you're supposed to rely on upper body strength in pass blocking. Ever seen him run block? Didn't think so, relies on his upper body too much my ass.
No jackass youre not supposed to rely on upperbody strength for pass blocking. Whats always been the key focus that NFL scouts look at in O linemen? Its always their feet and their leg strength. Again that was what alot of NFL scouting reports showed as his weakness, his feet werent as quick as they should be. So Im sorry if I dont take your opinion too seriously but Ill go with what the NFL has to say about him and about the O line position.
Also if it was because of sloppy technique that VG was able to penetrate into the backfield so much, then UMs O Line must really be shitty. Because VG was able to get through pretty much all game long.
Oh the benefits of watching with blinders on. If leg strength is what they look for at the combine why do they do a bench press test and not a squat test? Maybe it's because pass blocking involves upper body strength to control the other man and only uses leg strength as a base. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Once again ever seen Long run block? He's got plenty of leg strength anyway.
Rose colored glasses....they'll make you look stupid every time.
Besides for all of you saying Gholston owns Jake Long I guess the NFL disagrees since the Dolphins have already announced they're taking Jake #1 and are done with all contract negotiations as well.
are u stupid? they did not pick VG bc they didnt need a DE, if they needed a DT they would of picked dorsey. there is no difference between 1st pick and 10th pick. if they needed a RB they would have picked mcfadden
Are you stupid? About the only thing the Dolphins didn't need was a running back. You have no idea what you're talking about. The Dolphins picked Long because he was the best player in the draft.
whoa whoa whoa ....no way n hell long is the best player n the draft....mario williams went 1st n the draft and we all kno he wuznt the best player so i wouldn;t go that far buddy
Mario Williams is the only player from that class to even sniff the Pro Bowl so explain how he wasn't the best. And yes the Dolphins picked Long because he was the best in the draft, from the mouth of Bill Parcells. Or are you gonna call him an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about too? And by the way there is a difference between 1 and 10. The Dolphins need a DE they didn't pick Long, they need a DT, they didn't take Dorsey, they need a QB, they didn't take Ryan. Need I even go on?
Vince young....rookie of the year y didnt williams get it ...that class was stacked ... i wudnt dare say MArio wuz the best fuckin retarded n long isnt the best out of this group ,,,,just n parcells doesnt kno everything buddy
Mario Williams had 14 sacks last season, Vince young threw less touchdowns (9) than Quinn Gray, the backup quarterback for jacksonville who only started 4 games.
ever heard of mike vick .... qb throwing hahah wuteva puts point on the board ....Rookie of the year.....the game is gettin 2 fast for the gay ass pocket passer DE are way 2 fast now....pretty son white boyz arent gonna b able 2 play shit but O-line
rookie of the year is voted on by media, who dont know shit about sports. wtf are you talking about qbs not being able to play out of the pocket, notice how teams with qbs who can only run are not elite teams unlike those with pocket qbs, u know indianapolis, new england. Vick was a running back who played qb, much like vince young.
one second bud let me correct ya.... 19 year old college college sophmore playing for eastern michigan university looking at a starting spot comming into the 2009 season.... got anything else to say.
Are you stupid? I did not say they needed a RB, I was using Mcfadden as an example, And Dorsey would destroy Long. Dorsey was the best player in the draft
OK guys I can see how you might say Vernon owned Jake on this play(if you're clueless that is) but take another look. This was spread pass protection, the guard didn't step out like he was supposed to and Gholston went right through the hole he left. Jake was watching for an outside blitz and was out of position to stop Gholston. Anyone who every played line should know and recognize that.
Idiot you really need to read and understand what your responding to before you talk about it. He was watching for an outside blitz, there never was one, spread protection was called because they expected a blitz from the outside you cant call a pass protection scheme after the play begins, I would think even someone like you would know that.
Alright I know I said I wasn't going to but are you really that stupid? Do you really not understand a word of what I just told you? Long DID NOT blow his assignment, he stepped out like he was supposed to and Kraus didn't. The LG Kraus was supposed to block Gholston! My god you are a complete idiot and obviously have no idea at all about the game of football. Geez, take this to any football coach and ask what spread pass protection is, do not bother me with your bullshit anymore.
Long stepped out for the "outside blitz" by the phantom defender according to you. Yeah, he was expecting help. But that help didn't come. Why? Because he walked out of the huddle thinking "What did he just say?".
Get a clue, you've never played football and never will, you have no idea what you're talking about and cant even do the very simple thing of listening and understanding, you're just making yourself look more and more stupid the longer this goes on just shut your mouth and go read football for dummies or something. Did you seriously not comprehend what I said, because I'm pretty sure I've met 8 year olds who would have heard spread protection and know what happened without seeing this vid.
OK moron maybe you recognize the terminology from a video game, I recognize it as yea being the terms used in NCAA Football, also it's the terminology every coach I've ever played under used. From Pop Warner, high school, and college apparently all of them are idiots is that what you're saying?
Read my initial post from before that idiot started talking, Long did not get beat, Kraus missed his assignment. Otherwise explain to me why the right guard and tackle stepped outward the same as Long did and Kraus was the only lineman to not do so.
So you're confirming that you've probably never played football and most definitely have never played line the DT that Kraus picked up was Hart's responsibility, since you obviously know nothing about blocking schemes or how they are called just shut the hell up.
this game was from the 2006-2007 season, not 2007-2008 that just passed.If you listen closely the commentator said Gholston is only a sophomore. you need to play THREE years of collge football before becoming eligible for the draft. So this video has no validity. Sorry.
Even if you just look at his Junior year Gholston is still a beast. He got 14 sacks this past season, had the most rep (tied w/ Jake Long) in the combine, and he can runs a 4.6 40.
I HATE OHIO STATE!!!!.....BUT!!!i gotta admit he is a beast!!!but i pray the raiders dont take him at 4 i hope they take darren and vernon goes to the jets right before the gay pats!!!
The funny thing is this is one play. The play was not even a sack to boot. Gholston will be a good player in the NFL but he needs to get more consistent. BTW I doubt the Raiders nab him at #4. I think he'd make a good 4-3 DE in the league but in a 3-4 at OLB he can dominate.
gholston is every bit as big a freak as randy moss was when he was in school. Everyone that passed on moss was crying when he was destroying dbs. If miami doesn't take gholston number one they can cry when he wins defensive mvp in his rookie season!!
Jake Long is a big pig. He's not that good. He's huge, that's about it. William "The Refridgerator" Perry comes to mind when I think of Jake Long. Vernon Gholston will be a great NFL player. He was a great buckeye. GO BUCKS in 2008~!!
if you watch the app state and michigan highlights.. there is a play where michigan fumbles the ball ( hart fumbles it )but what happened was someone got past long ( well he got manhandled and hart got stuffed at the line of scrimage while the DE or LB I forget forced the fumble ) so he has had some bad games in his career.. Against Derrek Harvey he didn't completely dominate him.. this guy is gonna be a good pro but I don't even know if hes the best OT in the draft.
HOLY SHIT! this guy doesn't look big on this clip, but search images on google and look at this beast! he is fucking huge! Drafting him is no dissapointment for any team!
If you watch real close, Jake expects an outside move for some reason. Watch his left foot. He guesses wrong and opens up the inside bull rush. Gholston takes advantage.
Not a Michigan or Ohio State fan. Just an observation. I'd be happy with either one on my team.
Vernon ran a 4.67 40 yard dash and chris a 4.7 but in the 3 cone drill chris long beat vernon and in the 20 yard shuttle chris long beat vernon, actually chris long had the fastest time in the 20 yard shutle fo DE's at the combine. 20 yard shuttle measures quickness and change of direction. important for d-line
sbbutterflychica shut up, you're an embarrassment to the Maize and Blue. Gholston and Jake Long are probably two of the top 3 linemen in this draft class and will both make immediate impacts in the NFL. Gholston did match Long in the bench, but they also didn't count several of Long's reps. But then again Gholston ran a faster 40 than half the running backs, including Mike Hart. I think he is better than Chris Long, and should be a top 5 pick.
Which tied jake long for the most at the combine. Actually jake had more reps but they took a couple of reps away. both jake and ghoulston are going to be good
Mmm... go blue. Everyone has a favorite color. Typically determined in elementary school. Congratulations on choosing yours and it's very noble to root so hard for it.
I'm impressed, but I bet Jake won most of their meetings. Honestly even the most die hard OSU fan has to admit that Long is one of the most dominant offensive tackles in college football history. 2 penalty's, 2 sacks, 4 years. Jake Long is an animal.
I was talking about Ellis, but naturally both. Typically you want your nose guard to be about 6-1 and 320+, whereas the height of a five technique is essential (for those long arms and legs to hold the LOS to stop the run). At least 6-4 and 300. Ellis' best position would be the 3 technique in those Cover 2 schemes, he's quick and fast enough to beat the guard and get to the QB. Gholston will make a good blindside end in a 4-3 or a pass rushing LB in the 3-4.
I'm not a Ohio State fan. Actually I hate Ohio State and I hope they receive a 10 year ban from playing in the NC for sucking. So, that has nothing to do with the fact that Long and Dorsey suck. You obviously didn't even watch the NC if you think Dorsey played well.
jake long? overrated? wow, have ever watched him play? he dominates the line, just becuase this guy got through on one play doesnt make him "overrated"
You clearly didn't watch the whole Ohio St. game, much less any other Michigan game. Jake Long looked like a rag doll vs. Ohio St. and has played very poorly all year. He is terribly slow and immobile.
Vernon Gholston has the biggest arms in the history of football. I have never seen ne thing like those things on a football player. Glen Dorsey looks like fat albert out there. Gholston will be a much better pro. Dorsey relies on his strength and size too much, he will get man handled in the NFL.
Had to look long and hard to find a highlight of Gholston, eh? Go 'roid-dude!
BallgameYT 7 months ago
biggest bust since Jamarcus Russell
Vernong Gholston career: 0 sacks 0 forced fumbles 0 fumble recoveries.
gibson1789 11 months ago
BUUUUUUST fuck the jets
2kjason10 11 months ago
What a bust. What use is all that speed and strength if he can't even use it properly? Even with Rex he couldn't make any plays. We could've used Jerod Mayo or Sendrick Ellis, Rodgers-Cromartie, Chris Johnson, Mendenhall, Talib who ALL went after him. Good lord.
JForcE777 11 months ago
@JForcE777 : Maybe it had to do with his strengths not being used properly rather than him not properly using his strengths? The Jets weren't really a perfect fit for him and he's seems like he might be the kind of soft spoken personality that let the NY media get to him. At 25 with his physical attributes he could still have a good career with the right mentoring. Rod Marinelli in Chicago might just be that guy. He's a defensive line guru.
ThatsTotallyHim 6 months ago
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Not even Marinelli could fix him up as he was released by the Bears today. lol
Blindsided89 5 months ago
i have a vernon gholston football card but hes in the jets 1 (rookie) the rookie jets card suks the totel... td:0 fr:1 int:1 yds: 8 sacks:22.5
thenoobhater1 1 year ago
Built like Hercules, plays like Jane. Worst draft pick in Jets history.
serrribral 1 year ago
poor gholston. Had to stop using roids because the NFL has a lot stricter drug policy than O$U
0megaM00 1 year ago
Vernon Gholston is not a bust, he was OVER Drafted. Lawrence Wilson was supposed to be the starter, but he got hurt, Gholston took his job. Gholston had a reputation for having a low Football I.Q. and questionable motor. He got drafted high because of the last 3 games of his Jr. year, and his combine workout. If you watch him versus Jake Long, when they were in college, he drives his ass on every run play.
coliwood 1 year ago
B-U-S-T BUST BUST BUST
jonnyhan 2 years ago
Maybe Gholston can recreate this magic tonight. Probably not.
JetsDaily 2 years ago
Anyone who thinks this is a credit to Gholston knows nothing about football or blocking schemes. Long couldn't block Gholston because he was the guard's responsibility. Actually watch, it's an obvious spread protection scheme called, everyone except the left guard moved outward on the snap, the guard moved in, creating a gaping hole that Gholston went through. It's true that the first step blew the protection, it was just the guard's step, not Long's.
matt61387 2 years ago
uhhh Matt, he still got beat for the sack
Bass0820 2 years ago
uhhh Bass, are you really that stupid? This explains why Ohio State never wins big games, they think a play like that counts as a sack.
matt61387 2 years ago
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Bass0820 2 years ago
yeah i just now realized it wasn't a sack >_>. But he still got beat, and lol for thinking i'm an OSU fan
Bass0820 2 years ago
Yea, he got beat, "he" however is not Jake Long.
matt61387 2 years ago
who cares? Stop being butthurt
Bass0820 2 years ago
LOL, talk about projection, you're the one who was wrong and is trying to cover it, not me.
matt61387 2 years ago
Jake long is a freakin beast
tylerwolfe93 2 years ago
actually playing football in the nfl = vernon gholstons worst nightmare. the guy didnt even dress for like 8 games in his rookie year. he wasnt hurt, it was because he sucks.
ZiaCombs 2 years ago
every ohio state football player's nightmare is playing in the nfl, because they always suck
BiginAtlanta 2 years ago
Like Cris Carter and Super Bowl MVP Santonio Holmes?
Orbital2 2 years ago 2
Vernon Gholston was incredible during College, as a Jet fan I'm pretty surprised we have such a good player on our team and we're not taking advantage of. The guy could be a hybrid player that can play outside linebacker or move to defensive end, sort of like an Adalius Thomas.
Hopefully Rex Ryan with his extensive defensive knowledge can put this guy into use. Would be great to have David Harris, Bart Scott, Calvin Pace and Vernon Gholston all anchoring that linebacker core.
DeathByMetals 2 years ago
vernon gholston = jake longs worst nightmare.
ohiostatebucks86 2 years ago 5
Gholston went inside, but Long was expecting an outside rush. thats why Long had to correct his angle and couldnt get a proper block on gholston. and the running back couldnt cut gholston because that would be a chop block.
amazing what the first step can do.
chris371 2 years ago
You really know nothing about pass protection schemes do you?
matt61387 2 years ago
@ohiostatebucks86: Dude, Jake owned him that game. This was only the second sack he allowed at Michigan and Gholston had a horrible game other than this one play. Watch the entire game again and get back with me on "longs worst nightmare". And yes, I do know the final score.
LUTS67 1 year ago
he didnt start thats y he was a bust i think he was on st
Anthony441 2 years ago
what a bust lol
goose8787 2 years ago 4
Maybe so. Hope the new staff there can figure out what to do with him. He has the raw athletic ability for sure.
bicranium 2 years ago
Hopefully he gets a chance to play.
goose8787 2 years ago
what they need to do is get his ass on the d-line or a standing d-end. that's where he excels
jewforlife54 2 years ago
Jake Long, the anchor of Michigan's line, #1 NfL Draft and a starter for the Dolphins.
Vernon Gholston, a Michigan native, #7 NFL Draft and assumes the same position as Troy "the $500 hand shaker" Smith, Pine Rider.
Just another delusional video displaying Suckeye Nation propaganda...end of story!
Brewhaman 3 years ago
I'd be pissed off too if my team was 1-7 against Jim Tressel. Watch out for those Division AA teams, maybe next year your joke of a football program will win more than three games.
ballztransam99 3 years ago
I'm not pissed, everything I posted is completly true slack-jaw!
This video, much like a lot of PRO-Suckeye videos out here, are trying to make heros out of ZEROs!
Brewhaman 3 years ago
This video was put up a year ago and was just an impressive move by an OSU player. No looking into his future or anything like that. You're clearly a Walmart Michigan fan so I'll leave you alone.
bicranium 3 years ago
your an idiot ure nicknames "suckeyes" makes u seem like ure five years old. Grow the fuck up dude... true statements bullshit. talk like ure a mature person please than attempt to speak the truth. fuckin moron.
heatbasketball101 3 years ago
bwahahahahaha very clever hahaha
191125 3 years ago
look a mario williams: unbelievable build, skills, and all that but had trouble his rookie year. he is th perfect the build for a ROLB, maybe not in a 3-4, but eventually he'll find his place. and workin with larence taylor doesnt hurt either.
cnrjnxn 3 years ago
I hope you're right.
ModernSurvivor 3 years ago
B.U.S.T BUST BUST BUST!!!
birdflippa408 3 years ago
out of the first 10 picks him and glen are the biggest bust
Punk4Life408 3 years ago
this gguy is the gnna be the best DE this year. he will be a hall of famer
footballurlchr 3 years ago
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dude ur a retard. gholston is in the NFL rite now. and u havent heard shit bout him yet. that means he is a BUSTTTTT
steveblaze4111 3 years ago
Nobody becomes a BUST 7 games in to their NFL career MORONNNNNN
Hollow1179 3 years ago 3
can i call him a bust now? we're heading into week #17......
Brewhaman 3 years ago
nah,you can't
call russell a bust but stop complaining bout vernon
hes gonna be a hella player
ge0rget0wnsMVP 3 years ago
He is not a bust; just a major disappointment. If we get Rex Ryan, he should be a decent player in 2nd second year. Unlike Mangini, that guy knows how to run a 3-4 D. Even if Gholston doesn't move the way he likes in coverage, he'll have that kid out there just to rush the QB. Made no sense at all that Mangini treated his rookie year like an f'ing redshirt season with the kind of money we were paying him. He should've been out there EVERY GAME, putting what he learned in practice to the test.
serrribral 3 years ago
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Edit: He is not a bust; just a major disappointment. If we get Rex Ryan, he'll be much better in his 2nd year. Unlike Mangini, that guy knows how to run a 3-4 D. Even if Gholston doesn't move the way he likes in coverage, he'll have him out there just to rush the QB. Made no damn sense at all that Mangini treated his rookie year like a f'ing redshirt season with the kind of money we were paying him. He should've been out there EVERY GAME, putting what he learned in practice to the test.
serrribral 3 years ago
@Hollow1179 it's been 3 years now... he's a bust
djpharr 10 months ago
Absolute beast.
mleib17 3 years ago 3
Absolute beast.
mleib17 3 years ago
that is sick and we picked him up Go JETS
Jetsboy57 3 years ago
welcome to new york vernon
jetspsu14 3 years ago
This guy is so inconsistent its unreal. Can't wait to see this guy be traded for a 4th rounder 3 years from now.
shiznato31 3 years ago
LOL....Jake long will be a bust!!!
I hate this years draft picks
2 Mich players who lost to App State and never beat OSU??
Parcells is a moron!!!
dannyfla27 3 years ago
jake long will remember VG that college days are over, twice a season.
darthsadic 3 years ago
Jake Long slips thats why bust gholston gets thru the line.
SpainRidersTheBest 3 years ago
No Jake Long doesnt have the best feet which is why I think as good as he is he isnt Joe Thomas. JL was the best OT from this draft but he isnt the best OT. But yeah that was the knock on him in draft analysis. He doesnt have quick feet and doesnt set as fast as he should. He relied to much on his upper body strength to overpower his opponets.
kmcarmo 3 years ago
Actually Jake Long stepped out because it was spread pass protection and Kraus(LG) didn't step out like he was supposed to leaving a gaping hole that anyone could have gone through. And you're supposed to rely on upper body strength in pass blocking. Ever seen him run block? Didn't think so, relies on his upper body too much my ass.
matt61387 3 years ago
No jackass youre not supposed to rely on upperbody strength for pass blocking. Whats always been the key focus that NFL scouts look at in O linemen? Its always their feet and their leg strength. Again that was what alot of NFL scouting reports showed as his weakness, his feet werent as quick as they should be. So Im sorry if I dont take your opinion too seriously but Ill go with what the NFL has to say about him and about the O line position.
kmcarmo 3 years ago
Also if it was because of sloppy technique that VG was able to penetrate into the backfield so much, then UMs O Line must really be shitty. Because VG was able to get through pretty much all game long.
kmcarmo 3 years ago
Oh the benefits of watching with blinders on. If leg strength is what they look for at the combine why do they do a bench press test and not a squat test? Maybe it's because pass blocking involves upper body strength to control the other man and only uses leg strength as a base. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Once again ever seen Long run block? He's got plenty of leg strength anyway.
Rose colored glasses....they'll make you look stupid every time.
matt61387 3 years ago 2
jake long and vernon gholston get a rematch in the 1st game of the season when miami dolphins play the jets
BRUISER832 3 years ago
LOL When the Jets got him the announcer says "They just won the super bowl"
kickit2hesta 3 years ago
jets just got him
dietz0110 3 years ago
wow. he just run through Long and the back like they were nothing.
MetroReign 3 years ago
gholston goin to jets... j-e-t-s jets jets jets
italyzboi321 3 years ago
Just as long as he doesn't fall to the patriots I'll be happy.
mrrjenkims 3 years ago
Besides for all of you saying Gholston owns Jake Long I guess the NFL disagrees since the Dolphins have already announced they're taking Jake #1 and are done with all contract negotiations as well.
matt61387 3 years ago
are u stupid? they did not pick VG bc they didnt need a DE, if they needed a DT they would of picked dorsey. there is no difference between 1st pick and 10th pick. if they needed a RB they would have picked mcfadden
ACDCluva10 3 years ago
Are you stupid? About the only thing the Dolphins didn't need was a running back. You have no idea what you're talking about. The Dolphins picked Long because he was the best player in the draft.
matt61387 3 years ago
whoa whoa whoa ....no way n hell long is the best player n the draft....mario williams went 1st n the draft and we all kno he wuznt the best player so i wouldn;t go that far buddy
cktballa 3 years ago
Mario Williams is the only player from that class to even sniff the Pro Bowl so explain how he wasn't the best. And yes the Dolphins picked Long because he was the best in the draft, from the mouth of Bill Parcells. Or are you gonna call him an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about too? And by the way there is a difference between 1 and 10. The Dolphins need a DE they didn't pick Long, they need a DT, they didn't take Dorsey, they need a QB, they didn't take Ryan. Need I even go on?
matt61387 3 years ago
Vince young....rookie of the year y didnt williams get it ...that class was stacked ... i wudnt dare say MArio wuz the best fuckin retarded n long isnt the best out of this group ,,,,just n parcells doesnt kno everything buddy
cktballa 3 years ago
Mario Williams had 14 sacks last season, Vince young threw less touchdowns (9) than Quinn Gray, the backup quarterback for jacksonville who only started 4 games.
DaMystikalOne 3 years ago
rookie of the year....lol fuckin hater.....how many rushing TD's .......ok shut ur your mouth now
cktballa 3 years ago
remind when did QBs get measured by their rushing TDs? oh yea he only got 3 last year anyways, the same as Peyton manning who never runs.
DaMystikalOne 3 years ago
ever heard of mike vick .... qb throwing hahah wuteva puts point on the board ....Rookie of the year.....the game is gettin 2 fast for the gay ass pocket passer DE are way 2 fast now....pretty son white boyz arent gonna b able 2 play shit but O-line
cktballa 3 years ago
rookie of the year is voted on by media, who dont know shit about sports. wtf are you talking about qbs not being able to play out of the pocket, notice how teams with qbs who can only run are not elite teams unlike those with pocket qbs, u know indianapolis, new england. Vick was a running back who played qb, much like vince young.
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soon enough black boys wont beable to spell at all, finish high school next time you dumb mother fucker.
unlikelyhero07 3 years ago
talking about cktballa if anyone was wondering
unlikelyhero07 3 years ago
40 year ol white boy who neva played shit water boy doesnt count either
cktballa 3 years ago
one second bud let me correct ya.... 19 year old college college sophmore playing for eastern michigan university looking at a starting spot comming into the 2009 season.... got anything else to say.
unlikelyhero07 3 years ago
Are you stupid? I did not say they needed a RB, I was using Mcfadden as an example, And Dorsey would destroy Long. Dorsey was the best player in the draft
ACDCluva10 3 years ago
OK guys I can see how you might say Vernon owned Jake on this play(if you're clueless that is) but take another look. This was spread pass protection, the guard didn't step out like he was supposed to and Gholston went right through the hole he left. Jake was watching for an outside blitz and was out of position to stop Gholston. Anyone who every played line should know and recognize that.
matt61387 3 years ago
You tried to sound smart and it didn't work out. Outside blitz by whom exactly?
jasonkolo 3 years ago
Idiot you really need to read and understand what your responding to before you talk about it. He was watching for an outside blitz, there never was one, spread protection was called because they expected a blitz from the outside you cant call a pass protection scheme after the play begins, I would think even someone like you would know that.
matt61387 3 years ago
lol, again, blitz by who? nobody's there, and who exactly was going to block the RE if the LT wasn't?
jasonkolo 3 years ago
I'm not even going to respond to this anymore because quite frankly there is nothing I could say to make you look and dumber than you already do.
matt61387 3 years ago
But you just responded?
He didn't know his assignment and blew the play. I didn't say he wasn't any good btw. S happens. Don't be butt hurt.
jasonkolo 3 years ago
Alright I know I said I wasn't going to but are you really that stupid? Do you really not understand a word of what I just told you? Long DID NOT blow his assignment, he stepped out like he was supposed to and Kraus didn't. The LG Kraus was supposed to block Gholston! My god you are a complete idiot and obviously have no idea at all about the game of football. Geez, take this to any football coach and ask what spread pass protection is, do not bother me with your bullshit anymore.
matt61387 3 years ago
Long stepped out for the "outside blitz" by the phantom defender according to you. Yeah, he was expecting help. But that help didn't come. Why? Because he walked out of the huddle thinking "What did he just say?".
jasonkolo 3 years ago
Get a clue, you've never played football and never will, you have no idea what you're talking about and cant even do the very simple thing of listening and understanding, you're just making yourself look more and more stupid the longer this goes on just shut your mouth and go read football for dummies or something. Did you seriously not comprehend what I said, because I'm pretty sure I've met 8 year olds who would have heard spread protection and know what happened without seeing this vid.
matt61387 3 years ago
You just can't stop talking to me can you? You're confusing video games and real life. Your Pop Warner coach must not be very good.
jasonkolo 3 years ago
OK moron maybe you recognize the terminology from a video game, I recognize it as yea being the terms used in NCAA Football, also it's the terminology every coach I've ever played under used. From Pop Warner, high school, and college apparently all of them are idiots is that what you're saying?
matt61387 3 years ago
He just got beat, it happens to every lineman at least once in a game.
DinosaurusOcskai 3 years ago
Read my initial post from before that idiot started talking, Long did not get beat, Kraus missed his assignment. Otherwise explain to me why the right guard and tackle stepped outward the same as Long did and Kraus was the only lineman to not do so.
matt61387 3 years ago
Center took one DT, RG took the other, and Long was looking to block that linebacker blitzing. Oh wait, there was no blitz.
jasonkolo 3 years ago
So you're confirming that you've probably never played football and most definitely have never played line the DT that Kraus picked up was Hart's responsibility, since you obviously know nothing about blocking schemes or how they are called just shut the hell up.
matt61387 3 years ago
Still can't find your blitz kiddo.
jasonkolo 3 years ago
i like you, you are smarter than that matt kid
DinosaurusOcskai 3 years ago
nvm that
DinosaurusOcskai 3 years ago
gholston will be a beast next season
pwall13 3 years ago 3
I'm a Michigan fan and I know better. Gholston dominated Long (Jake) and is more physical than the other Long (Virginia). Game over! Vernon wins
utbnew52 3 years ago
please raiders get mcfadden or gholston
longschwanz 3 years ago
Big Vern was Long's nightmare for two years. You want to know why OSU has been dominating UM recently? Because they've had better players. Wake up.
rufusbaron 3 years ago 2
i really cont figure out why people keep on puttin Chris Long as the first overall pick.
I'm sure if the Big Tuna will select a DE/OLB
hes gonna pick this beast right here by the name of VERNON GHOLSTON
OnlyKnives 3 years ago
Long is a much more polished, and better football player than Gholston.
patriotsdynasty12189 3 years ago
are u serious? VG owned Long everytime they played. He had 3 sacks on henne last game
ACDCluva10 3 years ago
Yeah one on Long. Thats it.
patriotsdynasty12189 3 years ago
So were talking about ONE play that resulted in a incomplete pass...Show me the complete game tape, then I will make a comment on who got owned!
dkf1cards 3 years ago
how could u agree?? a guy who is strong and fast he could even play outside linebacker
hilol27 3 years ago
I see where a few NFL scouts rate Gholston as the biggest bust in the draft, I would have to agree with the experts..
Z7m 3 years ago
Yeah, they compare him to a workout warrior. Hes the biggest boom/bust player in the draft.
patriotsdynasty12189 3 years ago
this game was from the 2006-2007 season, not 2007-2008 that just passed.If you listen closely the commentator said Gholston is only a sophomore. you need to play THREE years of collge football before becoming eligible for the draft. So this video has no validity. Sorry.
huynh1 3 years ago
Even if you just look at his Junior year Gholston is still a beast. He got 14 sacks this past season, had the most rep (tied w/ Jake Long) in the combine, and he can runs a 4.6 40.
wildpyro910 3 years ago
All he did was get past a linemen and then hit an off balance guy... It's only one play too.
RickH192 3 years ago
I HATE OHIO STATE!!!!.....BUT!!!i gotta admit he is a beast!!!but i pray the raiders dont take him at 4 i hope they take darren and vernon goes to the jets right before the gay pats!!!
cjmack24 3 years ago
The funny thing is this is one play. The play was not even a sack to boot. Gholston will be a good player in the NFL but he needs to get more consistent. BTW I doubt the Raiders nab him at #4. I think he'd make a good 4-3 DE in the league but in a 3-4 at OLB he can dominate.
richardgoesblah 3 years ago
In the 2008 NFL draft at pick # 4 the Oakland Raiders select this motherfucker!!!!
deezlemike 3 years ago
gholston is every bit as big a freak as randy moss was when he was in school. Everyone that passed on moss was crying when he was destroying dbs. If miami doesn't take gholston number one they can cry when he wins defensive mvp in his rookie season!!
bla1348 3 years ago 2
Jake Long is a big pig. He's not that good. He's huge, that's about it. William "The Refridgerator" Perry comes to mind when I think of Jake Long. Vernon Gholston will be a great NFL player. He was a great buckeye. GO BUCKS in 2008~!!
72seeker72 3 years ago
I disagree. The only sack he gave up in 2007 was to Ghoston.
bat200 3 years ago
Jake Long aint good HAHAHAHHA thats y he is gonna be drafted in the 1 or 2 round dumbass buckeyes blow all there a bunch of convicts
mcgoalie30 3 years ago
Jake Long aint good HAHAHAHHA thats y he is gonna be drafted in the 1 or 2 round dumbass buckeyes blow all there a bunch of convicts
mcgoalie30 3 years ago
this wasn't even a sack. Jake long's kleets slipped from under him. LOOK! But hey i do like V Gholston but J long is THE BEAST HERE.
mdogg2001 3 years ago
if you watch the app state and michigan highlights.. there is a play where michigan fumbles the ball ( hart fumbles it )but what happened was someone got past long ( well he got manhandled and hart got stuffed at the line of scrimage while the DE or LB I forget forced the fumble ) so he has had some bad games in his career.. Against Derrek Harvey he didn't completely dominate him.. this guy is gonna be a good pro but I don't even know if hes the best OT in the draft.
partylwc 3 years ago
the jets need to get him or a cb in the draft
jetsrule2 3 years ago
the jets need to get him or a cb in the draft
jetsrule2 3 years ago
what a beast.
pingpyb 3 years ago
Swoleston.
fleepyhoon 3 years ago
vernon gholston is an amazing physical specimen. i mean this guy gotta juice or something unbeilivable. just look at his arms man.
spamusubi 3 years ago 2
Gholston is an incredible DE. but if i had to choose someone to go up against him it would be Jake without a doubt.
SUPERhyperNINJAkitty 3 years ago 2
HOLY SHIT! this guy doesn't look big on this clip, but search images on google and look at this beast! he is fucking huge! Drafting him is no dissapointment for any team!
XBoSnIaNxX 3 years ago
Still wasn't sack- Jake long only gave up one sack all season
xxxRAMBOxx 3 years ago
Hurries are just as important.
Majpain007 3 years ago
Yeah, it was to Gholston...
rod3eleven 3 years ago 2
umm. in this game he gave up 3 to gholston if im not mistaken.
youngshad 3 years ago
Yea about that Jake Long gave up 2 sacks in his four years starting at UM so explain how he gave up 3 in this game.
matt61387 3 years ago
No way did Gholston beat Long 3 times. I don't think Long gave up more than one sack per year.
AznTwizt 3 years ago
If you watch real close, Jake expects an outside move for some reason. Watch his left foot. He guesses wrong and opens up the inside bull rush. Gholston takes advantage.
Not a Michigan or Ohio State fan. Just an observation. I'd be happy with either one on my team.
FrankieWoodside 3 years ago
i had the pleasure of going to high school with him.
Anto18nio 3 years ago 2
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With the 7th pick overall, in the 2008 NFL Draft, the New England Patriots select, Vernon Gholston, OLB, from Ohio State University.
mrjonsey 3 years ago
put him in Silver and Black!
Kwaartz 3 years ago
Vernon - 6'3 1/2 266
Chris - 6'3 1/2 272
Same height but chris is bigger and vernon is the better Athlete. Vernon will stand up and play Linebacker but i dont know about Chris
jamalwest2 3 years ago
Vernon ran a 4.67 40 yard dash and chris a 4.7 but in the 3 cone drill chris long beat vernon and in the 20 yard shuttle chris long beat vernon, actually chris long had the fastest time in the 20 yard shutle fo DE's at the combine. 20 yard shuttle measures quickness and change of direction. important for d-line
xxxRAMBOxx 3 years ago
whoa! I was trying to find the definition of "BEAST" and i guess i found it.
agony956 3 years ago 2
someone hand him a Raiders jersey already
clock1234567890 3 years ago
sbbutterflychica shut up, you're an embarrassment to the Maize and Blue. Gholston and Jake Long are probably two of the top 3 linemen in this draft class and will both make immediate impacts in the NFL. Gholston did match Long in the bench, but they also didn't count several of Long's reps. But then again Gholston ran a faster 40 than half the running backs, including Mike Hart. I think he is better than Chris Long, and should be a top 5 pick.
matt61387 3 years ago
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He just got lucky.... ohio state still sucks balls and licks up the shaft!!!!!!!! GO BLUE!!
sbbutterflychica 3 years ago
yea he got lucky when he put up 37 reps at the NFL Combine too, pure power and force bitch.
dldowell1122 3 years ago 5
Which tied jake long for the most at the combine. Actually jake had more reps but they took a couple of reps away. both jake and ghoulston are going to be good
xxxRAMBOxx 3 years ago
You would have a point except for the fact that Long is 60 pounds and 5 in. more than Vernon.
dldowell1122 3 years ago 6
You forgot to add bitch at the end of your statement
xxxRAMBOxx 3 years ago
you forgot to spell gholston as ghoulston bitch.
dldowell1122 3 years ago
i hope he find u an kick yo ass.
Anto18nio 3 years ago
Mmm... go blue. Everyone has a favorite color. Typically determined in elementary school. Congratulations on choosing yours and it's very noble to root so hard for it.
bicranium 3 years ago
And you can't forget about the sack he had on Long this past year. But this video is pretty impressive.
LilDreezy 3 years ago
I'm impressed, but I bet Jake won most of their meetings. Honestly even the most die hard OSU fan has to admit that Long is one of the most dominant offensive tackles in college football history. 2 penalty's, 2 sacks, 4 years. Jake Long is an animal.
matt61387 3 years ago 2
Your a dumb ass pansy!!! Ohio states sucks! I'll kick your ASS!!!!!!!
mkksciguy 4 years ago
Neat story. Thanks for sharing.
bicranium 4 years ago
As much as I hate it, this kid is probably going to the Patriots at pick #7.
roethlisberger7Pitt 4 years ago
Nope the Jets will get him at #6
Also Glenn Dorsey isn't overrated.
Fionalover444 4 years ago
The Jets will pick Sedrick Ellis out of USC at number 6. That kid is an animal. And when did I say Glenn Dorsey was overrated?
roethlisberger7Pitt 4 years ago
They won't, he doesn't fit the 3-4, he's too small to be a nose guard and too short to be a five-technique.
andrew7taylor 4 years ago
Gholston or Ellis?
roethlisberger7Pitt 4 years ago
I was talking about Ellis, but naturally both. Typically you want your nose guard to be about 6-1 and 320+, whereas the height of a five technique is essential (for those long arms and legs to hold the LOS to stop the run). At least 6-4 and 300. Ellis' best position would be the 3 technique in those Cover 2 schemes, he's quick and fast enough to beat the guard and get to the QB. Gholston will make a good blindside end in a 4-3 or a pass rushing LB in the 3-4.
andrew7taylor 4 years ago
afwm1985 wow ur a fucking retard, u dont kno sh!t if u think hes overrated.
DGregorioProduction 4 years ago
I'm not a Ohio State fan. Actually I hate Ohio State and I hope they receive a 10 year ban from playing in the NC for sucking. So, that has nothing to do with the fact that Long and Dorsey suck. You obviously didn't even watch the NC if you think Dorsey played well.
afwm1985 4 years ago
your a fuckin idiot Dorsey did play well in that game. Dorsey is sick
chipper1027 4 years ago
I have been saying it all year - Jake Long is the most overrated player in college football with Glenn Dorsey a close second.
afwm1985 4 years ago
jake long? overrated? wow, have ever watched him play? he dominates the line, just becuase this guy got through on one play doesnt make him "overrated"
portajohn90 4 years ago
You clearly didn't watch the whole Ohio St. game, much less any other Michigan game. Jake Long looked like a rag doll vs. Ohio St. and has played very poorly all year. He is terribly slow and immobile.
afwm1985 4 years ago
i was actaully at the game. he was having an off game, but if you look at all his seasons at UM, youll know why he has as much hype as he does
portajohn90 4 years ago
ive heard long is overrated which is not true, but Dorsey thats when u know you should be wfollowing bowling instead
chipper1027 4 years ago
Vernon Gholston has the biggest arms in the history of football. I have never seen ne thing like those things on a football player. Glen Dorsey looks like fat albert out there. Gholston will be a much better pro. Dorsey relies on his strength and size too much, he will get man handled in the NFL.
kevin2fla 4 years ago 2