For all those who say it's not about looks: Please listen to the guy in the video when he talks about how people won't be able to understand the situation if they are not ugly. People who say it's not all about looks are not ugly!!! Show me one person who is ugly/unattractive while saying looks don't matter. I'm waiting. Oh and by the way, with money, you will only attract gold diggers.
I think what is being left out of the equation is pheromones that attract the opposite sex.you need good looks,money but also that unseen element that may be what some guys don't emit enough pheromones to attract women.
I would go as far to say that Steve's argument can be summed up as having "desirable genes" or not. The guys that figured out how to get laid in HS, they didn't figure anything out, it came naturally to them. It doesn't mean you can't improve yourself, but its just kind of reality. If you have a form of autism or tourretes or anything else like that, that is genetics. Most girls/women won't be interested. Some guys have no "game", how isn't that genetic?
you are right about alot of things.. but there is alot of fat, ugle old men who has a wife and so on, and woman can have low-self-esteem - like you.. you think about ''looks'' too much.. but then again, you kinda right.. but thats human-nature, and we know it.. but bill is NOT ugly at all? its hes personality and style!
21, but does it matter lol? I have a bleak outlook bc no one has shown me any different, I won't sit here and say that I never played my part, being awkward, not knowing how to connect with people
@MutantX123 its cool i just was asking, but when you get financially stable you should try another country, thats what im gonna do because theres no luck for me here either..
@k5lta lol like i said, i am not without fault i get nervous around women and i jus don't think "being myself" will help, I'm just an insecure person and they can sense insecurity
@MrVeesworld that is probably right on target. does anyone have the study where they took a group men and women put them in a room and basically the majority of women went for the top 10 or 20 percent of the good looking men.
@beloon1971 There is a documentary study on how women put out signals to attract men and how their body language gives it all away. they took an controlled room and placed video cameras everywhere from all angles. They then turned into a cocktail party and invited men to it. It was so interesting to have it broken down. It's on Youtube.
@beloon1970 Honestly, if you be yourself around women, instead of turning interactions with women into this "Complex and hard to maneuver" situation, you wouldn't have such a hard time. Women are people too. Just interact with them like you would anyone else, and if you're interested, subtly express interest throughout it, if she expresses interest back, step up your game a notch, and so forth.
@beloon1970 I'm not super attractive. I'm just an average looking college guy, and I have no trouble finding average looking, to quite attractive girls that I date. Of course being what age I am, none of it is ever supposed to be a serious relationship, but it makes it easy for me to note that It's your lack of confidence and the fact that you put so much emphasis on a relationship in your life that turns girls off of you.
@DCTruthPrevails you must be one of those guys that is in the above average or good looking catagory otherwise you wouldn't post such an insanely stupid comment.
It's not a stupid comment. It's common sense. If you have poor personality, sure, if you are average, few girls will want you. I'm just an average looking guy, with a great personality. With you sounding so bitter, you sound like the guy who would turn off several women by being that way.
@DCTruthPrevails And how exactly is a woman supposed to gauge your personality, if you she refuses to engage with you because she has rejected you because of your looks?. You can have the most awesome personality in the world, but it means jack shit if a woman is not physically attracted to you. I think you truly underestimate just how shallow women are.
Yeah I got an uncle. Now don't get me wrong he does alot of good shit for me as an uncle like buy clothing and all that. But he too is pussy whipped in sense he would rather beat the shit out of me than the women who divorced his ass, that's how his temperant is.
@stringfellow1970 No no no!! I just made a video about all of this looks vs money and how to get a women etc. It really goes like this; 1 Looks ( the opener) 2 Charisma and Confidence (the deal maker) 3 power or social status 4 Height and last money..
I've seen a hell of a lot of guys that look worse than you do man...and they seem to have pretty decent chicks.I'm an extremely good looking guy and women hate me with a demonic passion because my personality is a piece of shit...I don't try to "understand women,"...I couldn't care less about their "feelings,"...and I'm generally a self-centered,self-obsessed asshole.But the difference between myself and the other guys is that I really mean it; I'm not joking and I don't give a fuck about women.
i guess i am about average but i don't see why that should be a road block to at least meeting some women unless It means I will have to settle for ugly older women In that case I'd rather be alone.. To young women I am virtually invisible but I don't think I'm the only one with this problem.
I agree with Steve. And also think there is no cure for this problem. If women don't like you, for whatever reason, there is very little if anything you can do to change their minds.
u dont have 2 accept shit,,,,,just be cofedent ive seen plenty ugly mufuckaz with beautiful women,,,,its all about cofedence talking a women out her panties,,,we must understand women wants us to take charge,,,and if we show any sighns of bashfulness,shyness or anything like that theyll eat u alive
Of course they care about looks. You care about looks. Everyone cares about looks to a varying extent. It's part of the big equation. Get over it. Look at this guy:
He is overweight, ugly, and has asperger's syndrome. Yet he has found himself a girlfriend.
Why? Because his attitude towards life doesn't send of bad vibes. In your case, they can probably smell it without looking at you. Even those with a 2 rating run away. So shape up!
If women could "smell" or "sense" that you give off bad "vibes" they would avoid the assholes that end up beating them, cheating on them, getting them pregnant, and becoming deadbeat dads.
@ejdf870 the thing is guys who by appearance fit the role of "rebel asshole" send off good vibes to many women. If you're unattractive, grow a sense of humour. And if you can't do that, nor earn enough of money or gain respectable career, stop whining that you can't pick up women with an above 4 rating, and stop harbouring resentment. If you were them, you would do the same.
@pdbcas No I would not. If I were female I would care that I was physically attracted to my mate, and that he had a pleasant personality. Much the same way I choose females now. Any woman who likes a "rebel asshole" is a dippy bitch with issues and a damaged personality.
guys overcome average looks through high income money,power,fame.alternative would be look in latin america for work women and maybe just live there also
The dating "scene" has played a cruel trick on women. Western women are raised to have all these ridiculous standards for a man, yet they're so egotistical and short-sighted to see that most of them have this mentality while the men who do meet their ideal standards are few and far between. This causes a socio-economic disadvantage for women, but a vast surplus of pussy supply for these men.
If your ugly and wanna get laid one thing that can break down the looks barrier is MONEY! it dosent matter what you look like people will notice you everywhere you go if you have money. its the same kind of fake and phoney attentionYoull get being good looking and really It's all equally SAD! that people base there judgement on you on what you have outside of you. but money is stronger than looks..In the end the people who base there whole life on superficiality there really the losers
@LHall3308 True pheromones do work but use your own. Whenevr you can, get close to a girl or women in conversation s you can easily allow her to smell you without you saying "smell me." LOl This sets of a chemical reaction in her brain if the odor you omit
is the opposite of her immune system. It's a scientific fact that women are attracted by this in this way and have sex with men whom they have smelled. Works for me loads.
This is going to sound really nerdish, but i have read like a year ago the folowing statement:
- When they invent realistic sex robots we will not need women any more.
this guy was trying to be funny, but i think he has a point, i think that tecnology can solve the problem, i am not sure in what way this could be achived but i thing in the future people are going to find efictive ways to at least mitigate the problem.
I am SO sick and fucking tired of things always changing for the worse.
YouTube just redesigned their site, with new colors and a new format. With the old format, your comments on a video were highlighted in bright yellow so you could quickly identify them. Now, there's nothing. You have to, basically, scroll down maybe hundreds of comments and carefully search for your comment.
Fucking disgusting.
I'm not against change, just make it for the BETTER, for once.
i used to be really unattractive, too skinny, never fixed my hair, pale, unconfident, etc.
now i am considered attractive handsome and sexy because i started lifting weights and becoming fit and i actually have style now. so much people tell me i am good looking, ive seen so many girls look at me, girls have tried to talk to me YET, i am still so unconfident that i cannot get girls because im too shy.
Women get more unattractive with age while men seem to stay more settled, so women who don't give a fuck about you in your 20 might come knocking on the door when your in your 50s, after shes used up and has 6 kids with half the people you know, and then act like you should be thankful. This is also about the time women find religion.
Your face is like your word. If it's no good they don't want anything to do with you. UNLESS you have money. Woman are very picky. Men not so much. Men can be pigs. But women can be cruel. They truly hold all the deck to the cards.
@ejdf870 ummm we learned in biology that females choose the males, males do the chasing
that is why rape exists. if the women does NOT choose the man and wants him to leave her alone, but the man continues to pursue. that can be considered sexual harassment or ultimately assault.
@ejdf870 women are far more picky than men. they actually do have the power. That's at least the decent ones. The ones where they are worth being with. Then there are always the not so decent. Idk, its kind of late. Ill get back with a better answer.
When you use your power (even be it 'looks') against other people...then you cannot whine whenh they use THEIR real power ('looks' is not the only power)otherwise, against YOU.; 'I learned this as an unattractive kid. I grew my power and used it whenever and on whoever I needed to. All is fair in 'looks' and war.
i know so many looks based people and they are EASY to get around due to their own insecurity. Ban makeup today and most women will commit suicide tomorrow!
My wife loves me...my kid loves me...my dog loves me. everybody else can take a hike. Ugliness is not accepting yourself and the skills you have. I have my own business and decided long ago to rise above the short sightedness of the shallow world. if you need to be good looking to be happy you are like icing without a cake.
Japanese girls are hot, and they'll go for even the lamest White guy. Black guys, even if we are relatively intelligent and OK-looking generally have to settle for ugly white swine that nobody else wants; well, I'll settle for being alone over that.
Inferior people are the losers in society and nature. I believe in eugenics, for a healthier and happier world.
@GeorgeLRockwell87 What about being Asian? We have it worst than blacks! But in my situation I still don't make an excuse about my race to improve myself. I just do all I can at the moment, I guess and if I fail it isn't my fault. I can't help being born being ME. =)
@RussX5Z It's still better being Asian in society. Asian girls flock to White men, but I'd rather be alone, make money, and not be bombarded with hostility than be Black, constantly under attack from all sides and chased by the ugliest women. Alone is better than a walrus in my book.
@GeorgeLRockwell87 Come on man!!!!??? Black guys settling for the ugliest of white women? WTF? First of never settle for anything less than what you want. You need to strive for what you want and present the very best of yourself and you will be given the best back. I am black and never had less than 8 or 9's cause I don't look for 7's or under. Black men are in and have been in since the 80's. YOU need more self estemm brother!
Dude.. it dawned on me that most men don't known the woman or women they want. They can't describe the woman at all. You have to profile the women you find attractive and find out everything about them. Then find out what qualities they are looking for and develop those qualities. Then you have to get out the house and go where these women are located. Market yourself.. I see fat, lame, even broke dudes with females... I know of this church dude that is ugly and he gets girls cuz of qualities.
We all need to listen to the old Janis Ian song "at 17." I think ugly guys should be happy that evil bitchy women won't talk to them as these women just ruin the lives of good-looking guys through or divorce, child support, etc. I agree at 4.00 the game is rigged & there is no way to win. Just don't explode and pay-back what these bitches have done unto them.
Steve Hoca is right. Unattractive men have no leverage in the dating game, and women and attractive men have no incentive to change a game that is rigged in their favor. For many years I subjected myself to this rigged game in the hope that somehow something would change, and of course it never did. I believe that for most unattractive men in America, their only hope is to turn the game back in their favor by going the foreign route. I got smart and did just that, and it worked out for me.
the less attractive people could overcome by pulling something from left feild by being smarter or having a bus-load of credentials......it's still really messed up though
@KasirRham How about these guys develop their personalities? I don't see how it's messed up that people are attracted to good-looking people, there are certain looks that we're hard-wired to be attracted to. The way that attractive people go about rejecting "undesirables" sometimes is messed up, but you can't control who you desire.
@CharlesNigro of course but "developing personality" won't make you sexy in the eyes of most common people. I suggest aiming to attain some massive financial status or something of that nature because that will at the very least get them layed (or laid not sure how that's spelled). I agree that personality is important but it is often worthless in these encounters. A person could get their deep emotional needs met by close friends and family while banging golddiggers and still be fairly happy.
@KasirRham No, no, you misunderstand me. I'm saying instead of focusing on dating since these guys are all but hopeless in that department, they should work on developing their personalities and just work on building a social network. If they want to get laid, I believe there's an entire profession that can get that straightened out, but I don't think that's their issue. Their issue is something that is most likely only remediable by psychiatric/psychological support.
I gotta agree, I was paid more money then the guy teaching me my job once.
ofcourse I did have a bachelor's degree over him but, I also looked much better than him. He was fat and I was fit... they believed I was a better candidate and even talked to me about an assistance manager position They told the other guy the assistance job will not exist again - f**king sucked ass for him huh?
You're right, there really is no answer. There's nothing you can really do about stuck up, superficial and materialistic women, bucause they have the rights as human beings to make life decisions and have opinions and preferences (just as a man is entitled to his oppinions and decisions), even if those oppinions and preferences are negative and selfish.
"What you do is get money first, then get the looks (plastic surgery), then get everything else as the world is your oyster." --- In my abnormal psy class, this type of view was covered to people who have Narcissistic personality disorder or Histrionic Personality disorder. A few famous people have these types of disorders, and some end up being addicted to plastic surgery for their idea of beauty. Just a side note.
TO ALL YOU GUYS OUT THERE Do not get married. Take it from somebody who knows. Your relationship can/will END at any time. Having a ring on your finger doesn't mean you will be till death do you part. You WILL suffer emotionally, financially. Don't worry about what women think of you. Live life for yourself. Men are not losers. Define yourself by your own interests in life.
You say you are average, but your face is above average. I can't really see anything wrong with your face except bump on nose. That can easily be fixed with rhinoplasty. Your face has good proportions and you have plenty of hair. Your eyebrows could use some shaping. Are you short maybe?
@LatestUFOSightings: looks will not show the signs of cancer or any of those types of deformities. Realism created via surgery, if it is not causing any health issues, is not "real" as so how you want it to be. No matter how you are trying to make it sound, like you are trying to say that in order for a person to be "hot enough" for you even with the usage of surgery, is still fake and shallow and superficial. You are just confuse
@LatestUFOSightings : and you are shallow, everybody is. You are just trying to make it seem like you are not. We are all some what shallow, but to try to reject it is just ignorance and being a hypocrite.
@rgchrono Deal with it. How am I hypocrite for admitting that looks matter? It is not shallow. Even fucking birds judge the partners by their feather quality. It shows that you have good genes and will create good offspring. Holy shit you are a moron. Of course looks matters, it's not even being shallow. It's being normal and using this to your advantage.
@LatestUFOSightings moron? That is the way you reply when somebody goes against your view? Are you white? White people usually use that term when they don't agree with somebody. Btw! You said you were not shallow last time. Now you are saying that you are and its normal in nature..make up your mind. You are a hypocrite, deal with it. And your idea of getting surgery to "even the odds" in the dating game is fake and superficial. And that view is what makes you an ignorant hypocrite.
@LatestUFOSightings btw, you talk about nature and natural selection. And yet natural selection does not use surgery in the wild lol. So your point of the birds and what not falls flat on its face on this debate. Lol
Btw! I had to show your replies to both my gf and one of my buds. And they both agreed. There is something seriously wrong with you and how foolish and ignorant your comments are. You are sick and need to see a therapist . I am out, lol, my gf usually gets mad at me for debating idiots online.
@LatestUFOSightings also! Finding natural things attractive with the other sex, if you are heterosexual, is normal. Asking somebody to change themselves for shallow reasons is just stupid and narcissistic to tell somebody that, especially when it is nothing. You very shallow, superficial, and narcissitic . And I am dealing with it by debating your ignorant add
How do you win in a game which is rigged? I will answer that for you - you play by the rules. The rules basically require 2 things from you: looks and money. Ideally - both.
What you do is get money first, then get the looks (plastic surgery), then get everything else as the world is your oyster.
Yes. Unattractive men ARE losers. Take it from an attractive man. Yes, I get my fair share of liberty because I'm handsome. But being handsome is neither her nor there. What's paramount is who you are on the inside & how you treat your fellow human being.
@upabittoolate You are kind of contradicting yourself here, on one hand you make the insensitive comment that ugly men are losers, which is not fair, because it's not the fault of the ugly man he was born that way. But then you say "it's what matters on the inside, and how you treat your fellow human being". Well guess what I am considered ugly by women, but I treat my fellow human being well, does that mean I am a "loser" just because I was born with bad genes?
@InspectorMontelbano1 It sucks to be unattractive... I think. Perhaps "loser" is the wrong choice of word. But that doesn't change the fact that the man on the inside is what matters. Looks fade. People get fat. Hair grays & thins. Skin wrinkles. Teeth shift. What you have left is the fellow on the inside. That's what needs to be developed best.
@upabittoolate Yep it certainly sucks to be ugly, I should know I am ugly, and women don't even want to know me, and yes I treat people well and consider myself a good person on the inside. You should consider yourself fortunate you won in the genetics lottery. And yes looks do fade, the problem is we live in a superficial and shallow world, and ugly guys like me are left to rot alone.
@InspectorMontelbano1 My friend, I doubt you're anywhere near as ugly as you portray. In fact, I bet I could shop a picture of you & have MAD hoes all over you. I didn't win any genetics lottery. My parents are/were attractive people but what was important is that they loved each other & appreciate the other's mind. Looks are completely incidental; especially for men. A man doesn't have to be "handsome". A man has to give off the vibe that he's together.
@upabittoolate You have seen a photo of me, so you know why I consider myself unattractive, although I am in good shape. I am bald, and Arab looking, and women simply don't dig that look, it respules them, even though I shower every day, sometimes twice a day, religously wear deodorant and brush my teeth every day. I wish I could get MAD hoes all over me, but that's wishful thiking. I am glad your parents love each other, that's nice to hear. But how do you give the vibe, you "have it togther"?
@InspectorMontelbano1 Mate, I've seen no photos of you at all. Either way, being bald ain't shit. Being "Arab-looking" ain't shit. It's about how you use your mind & your mouth. Trust me, if you just calm down & stop getting in your own way, you can have mad hoes. You work a proper job. You're keeping your body in good tune. "Together" means you're focused on your own, personal * eccumenical agenda. Stop making it hard for yourself. I bet mad hoes want you & you're just no catching the vibe.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Maybe you should have tried harder when you were in your 20's. You know, when you looked a 100 times better, had hair and nearer the age group of the kind of girls you liked, instead of spending 98% of your life NOT approaching a girl.
@dahenrysalvador And maybe you should not be so presumptious about me, when you don't even know who I am. I have approached tons of women (over 200), in my teens,twenties and thirties, and I got rejected every single time because of my Arab looks. Stop defending female shallowness, and stop preaching PUA shit, because is PUA is 100% bullshit, just like your assumption of me.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Lets do the math 200 women in what, 200 days? How many days would ~20 years have? 7305. What did you do with the rest? Clearly, you haven't tried hard enough.
Did you think, by just walking around, girls would even notice your excessive grooming? Very feminine of you.
In case you havent noticed, you are male. You have to take initiative. Masculinity is about taking control, working independent of looks. Men can meet who they want; girls can't pick who will approach them
@dahenrysalvador Drop the PUA bullshit and shaming language, I have approached women both in person, and on the internet, and in most cases I was rejected instantly because of my looks and perceived race. And you are wrong women CHOOSE, and women hold all the power in the dating game-period. If you were born ugly like I am, and women don't choose you, then as an ugly man, it's not my fault., I was simply dealt a bad hand in life witrh regards to women and dating.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Lol. You just dont get it. Women cant choose who will approach them. Men can. You obviously dont know how to use that to your advantage.
Its your fault for not having balls to meet MORE women. Also for staying where you live, when you know people there would hate your arab face.
Your problem is, you have a defeatist mindset in which you think men are powerless and women have control. Basically, that defines you. You are powerless and LET women control you, walk over you.
@dahenrysalvador No buddy, you don't get it, I agree women don't chose which men approach them, but it's suicide to approach a woman cold unless she is ginving you clear indicators of interest. It's not a matter of having the balls to approaching more women, what do you achieve by constantly getting rejected?, nothing except having your self confidence destroyed. The fact is women in the west do have all the power in the dating game, they choose the men, not men choosing the women.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Suicide? You're not gonna die. Rejection is the first thing you have to face and unfortunately, you never learn anything from it. You just can't realize you would learn subtle things from it because you're too impatient to see results. It's kind of like working out muscles, you don't see results in days, not even weeks. Maybe in a few months, but its in years where you actually see significant results. Self confidence only gets destroyed initially, then there's growth.
@dahenrysalvador And what exactly is there to be learned by experience constant rejection??, a great way to destroy your self confidence? The only way to get self confidence is to experience success, there's no other way around it, and you can't fake confidence.
@InspectorMontelbano1 You know how they treat phobias? Read on it. That's basically similar to what happens here. The more you run away, the harder it is when it gets you back. However, you face your fears on a consistent basis and you adapt. You just have to invest in time and balls. Meeting women once every one quarter of a year (like how you probably did), obviously, rejection would hurt like hell. Go back there and face it. Be honest and tell us, when was the last time you tried?
@dahenrysalvador The last time I tried to meet a woman was 4 weeks ago when i went a blind date and usual I got rejeted again, and the excuse this time was "there was no chemistry", which is womanspeak for " I really think you are ugly, but I don't have the heart to tell you". Prior to that, the last time I tried to meet a woman (and got rejected) was December 2007. Yes, all that rejection has made me fear women, but unless it happens to you, then you cannot relate to ugly guys like me.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Hey dude I feel you. I'm ugly and I have a strong loathing for god because of how he made me. But shit what can I do. I don't even waste my time with women anymore. Fuck speaking, befriending or even acknowledging women. They've treated me so horrible for being ugly so fuck them and anyone else for that matter. I like to write rhymes and record music. That's what I spend my time doing. Just find something you love doing, run with it and alienate everything else.
@MDDLFNGZ2YA Thanks for your message, and I am sorry to hear you have not had much luck with women, but at the same time I am glad to hear that you have found happiness and meaning in your life.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Trust me bro when you find something you love doing and occupy yourself with it and get better at it, everything else is out the door. Fuck these hoes man don't make them your priority. Trust it ends up bad if you are indeed so ugly like I am. Just find a hobby you love and get better at it.
@MDDLFNGZ2YA Like the video saids, you need to find happiness and meaining in your life outside your cursed luck with women, and that's what I am trying to do. I now engage in my hobbies, which are going to the gym nearly every day over the last 12 months, and flight simulation. I am also thinking of getting into photography.
Care to elaborate? What advantage can be derived from having to approach? You can choose who to approach, but in the end ITS ALWAYS THEIR SAY, always. Once you consider the fact that women are always approached and can be picky as shit, where's the advantage?
@InspectorMontelbano1 Women dont care about your appearance as much as men do. But i don't recommend to get married these days, men got no rights in western world.
@goldewl Thanks for your comment, however I must respectfully disagree, women do go for looks than men do, and women have a very narrow range of what they find attractive in men.
@orbitalraindrops Yeah, big deal?, so what's your point? If you are a good looking guy, then yes you will get free sex from pretty women, but some of us lost in the genetics lottery, and that's what this video is mainly about.
@InspectorMontelbano1 I wouldn't say I'm a good looking guy but it's called being charming, charismatic and confident and not what I beleive you lot are doing which is beleiving that you have no chance whatsoever, that it's societies fault and consequently wallowing in self pity.
@orbitalraindrops You are probably better looking than what you claim you are, and I respect the fact that you are being modest. That said, I know for a fact, that it's my looks and race that have caused my cursed luck with women. I agree that genuine charisma and charm are attractive attributes, but you have to be good looking/or rich in order to attract women.
@InspectorMontelbano1 I'm in the same situation as you,although some women find me attractive,oddly enough.I'm not that distressed about that though.I decided not to have children and not to get married.Although I will miss some fundamental human experiences,I will experience life in a new way.Remember,relationships rarely mean happiness,especially in western states.Find happiness in your hobbies and favourite activities.Searching for happiness in another may end in tragedy and heartache.
@SciFiFanatic101 Thanks for your message, and I am sorry to hear you that you have challenged by dating (I am), although you mentioned that some women find you attractive. With me, I can safely say no women find me attractive, so my loneliness is forced. That said, I am one of those unattractive guys deemed to be a "loser" by society as this video explains, but I was born unattractive and that's not my fault. I simply lost in the genetics lottery.
@mysticman07 Sure the odd ugly guy gets lucky so what?, I also know heaps of unattractive guys (I am one of them), and they fail miserably with women, not because they are not good people, but because of their lack of good looks. Sorry, women are shallow creatures.
Steve, ive pondered over the looks conundrum myself and i can safely conclude that its much more important for a man to be goodlooking in order to be desirable.
what frustrates me is when women complain about the harsh beauty standards ad how men are the 'shallower sex' when in reality an average looking woman still gets attention from men, still gets a lot of dating and sexual opportunities...way more than the man who is her equivalent in looks.
A woman of average looks will get more attention and anything from offers of sex to marriage-minded men, than a men in the same physical looks bracket---he will get FAR less.
From a superificial standpoint, I'm tall, getting in shape, muscular, and not to much of an eyesore otherwise and I only get a few women interested in me once in a while.
A woman that's in good shape and don't have a face like the Hunchback Of Notre Dame will always have men's attention. Period . .
Only when women are ignored and old will they discover what men go through with their entire lives if we don't make our presence known with women---being marginalized. I honestly think that the typical US woman now has ZERO clue what men go through in this area. For example, if they can go into a bar and pick someone up, whether for a one night stand or LTR, men should easily do it, too, right? It's never that easy for most men unless you're at (or near) the top of the heap.
the unattractive women are the bottom 15% in terms of looks...those who are really challenged aesthetically or obese. beyond that most women are atleast attractive to some extent.
unattractive men are like 40% of the male population. that is how women rate men. they find very few men attractive (to any degree).
I did like how you talk about Asperger's in this video. I'm sure I may suffer from some sort of Asperger's or mental handicap, and yes, looks do matter and when you do suffer a mental handicap that can also make one seem less attractive. Everyday I begin to realize, I may never find friends or a girlfriend. I figure my time is limited on this planet and with my high interests in high risk adrenaline sports. I don't think I'll have to worry about a long lonely life.
That's what society tells you. Money is important. Pffff.... Biologically, the one who has the most children wins because his genes will last longer than everybody elses. You can't buy that for money.
Plenty of overweight, ugly, diseased, and cancer-carrying people popping babies nonstop. Rich people can provide good education. Good education will make you healthier as you're smarter and make better decisions. Long-lasting health will prevail and more likely positively mutate - I don't care if someone pops out 500 babies it's no use if they're all cancer-prone and die.
If you want me to elaborate, I agree with your general realistic view on life. Looks do matter, but to an extent. You just need to be passable for most people, which I think you are. I also agree with your outlook on women having too much power in choosing and I could go more but the comment section is low. I just think you need to up the self-steem on your chances with scoring. Not on who you are as a person, but as your chances with women go I think you rate your chances too low, needs sorted.
@Shemmmy Looks are a very big deal to women, if you don't pass the looks test, it's game over for you. Take me for example, I am 43 years old (in good shape), but I have a very, very ugly face, and women reject me even before I open my mouth.
I disagree with this, agree with some statements tho. Youre not born a loser. Ive been single for years now, not had sex in 2. Balding, and obese. However, I realize this is MY fault because I let myself go. Once I get fit, I'll be getting women. You're not a bad looking guy, you might not stand out of the crowd looks wise, but surely you have other qualities going for you? I just think you lack confidence in getting women (you might have confidence in yourself, but not with scoring with women)
@Shemmmy I too used to be overweight, that was my fault as I let myself go, however over the last 12 months I have been going to the 7days a week and have lost 21kg (46lbs), and now I have a decent body, but I am still getting rejected by women because I am bald and have an ugly face. Attraction for the most part, is mostly from the neck up. Having "confidence" does not get you women, LOOKS and MONEY does - period,
America is blunt on what it wants to look like as well. We are the capital of ignorance. Looks make society, and society is shit, depending on the genre of society-workforce, church community, hip hop community, etc-- The right people give you the right looks and vice versa.but thing is attractiveness isn't the problem in this recession;its usefulness. If you have no swagger faith or confidence for your own then how does life work?Im very intellectual and can teach classes, so im okay
Women will trade looks for money. Most women would take Bill Gates if he offered.
herpeslip 3 days ago
our attraction should be toward consciousness, looks can be made, but consciousness and morals can't be fabricated
FreeThoughtFreedom 1 week ago
@FreeThoughtFreedom True, guys get the message but do these radical feminist whoreass bitches get the message
ultradestruction 3 days ago
Steven Tyler is a rich, famous rock star. Big surprise!
beloon1970 1 week ago
what exactly is the top 20%?
darwin's theory of sexual selection is worth learning.
punishalltrolls 1 week ago
For all those who say it's not about looks: Please listen to the guy in the video when he talks about how people won't be able to understand the situation if they are not ugly. People who say it's not all about looks are not ugly!!! Show me one person who is ugly/unattractive while saying looks don't matter. I'm waiting. Oh and by the way, with money, you will only attract gold diggers.
mirasgreen 1 week ago
@mirasgreen from my experience, some people who are unattractive to me have stable relationships.
punishalltrolls 1 week ago
@mirasgreen one rehearsal girl on american idol thought steven tyler was gorgeous and kissed him. drugs made tyler ugly (to me).
is that a good counterexample?
we can learn more about women by reading their magazines.
punishalltrolls 1 week ago
Not only does average not cut it, above average doesn't cut it either. Women want the SUPERMAN.
SaveTheMen 2 weeks ago 2
@SaveTheMen Not only do women want Superman, the unattractive women want Superman too.
FreeThoughtFreedom 1 week ago
I think what is being left out of the equation is pheromones that attract the opposite sex.you need good looks,money but also that unseen element that may be what some guys don't emit enough pheromones to attract women.
beloon1970 2 weeks ago
@beloon1970 They also say that testosteron (or, rather, its influence on lookings) makes a big difference.
bormisha 1 week ago
I would go as far to say that Steve's argument can be summed up as having "desirable genes" or not. The guys that figured out how to get laid in HS, they didn't figure anything out, it came naturally to them. It doesn't mean you can't improve yourself, but its just kind of reality. If you have a form of autism or tourretes or anything else like that, that is genetics. Most girls/women won't be interested. Some guys have no "game", how isn't that genetic?
guitarslayer17 2 weeks ago
you are right about alot of things.. but there is alot of fat, ugle old men who has a wife and so on, and woman can have low-self-esteem - like you.. you think about ''looks'' too much.. but then again, you kinda right.. but thats human-nature, and we know it.. but bill is NOT ugly at all? its hes personality and style!
EmilG90 2 weeks ago
yes, we are, let's just face it, I accepted tht I am doomed to be alone from here on out.
MutantX123 3 weeks ago
@MutantX123 How old are you?
k5lta 3 weeks ago
@k5lta
21, but does it matter lol? I have a bleak outlook bc no one has shown me any different, I won't sit here and say that I never played my part, being awkward, not knowing how to connect with people
MutantX123 3 weeks ago
@MutantX123 its cool i just was asking, but when you get financially stable you should try another country, thats what im gonna do because theres no luck for me here either..
k5lta 3 weeks ago
@k5lta lol like i said, i am not without fault i get nervous around women and i jus don't think "being myself" will help, I'm just an insecure person and they can sense insecurity
MutantX123 3 weeks ago
@MutantX123 yeah, but they don't sense their own lol
k5lta 3 weeks ago
@CalebRMooney start a conversation so give us all a break about how easy it is to meet women
beloon1971 4 weeks ago
@CalebRMooney most women size you up and reject within 5 seconds before you can st
beloon1971 4 weeks ago
@beloon1971 I believe the stats were women decide if they are attracted to you and will sleep with you within the first 20 seconds.
MrVeesworld 3 weeks ago
@MrVeesworld that is probably right on target. does anyone have the study where they took a group men and women put them in a room and basically the majority of women went for the top 10 or 20 percent of the good looking men.
beloon1971 2 weeks ago
@beloon1971 There is a documentary study on how women put out signals to attract men and how their body language gives it all away. they took an controlled room and placed video cameras everywhere from all angles. They then turned into a cocktail party and invited men to it. It was so interesting to have it broken down. It's on Youtube.
"Body Language - Indicators of Interest (IOI's) "
MrVeesworld 2 weeks ago
@beloon1970 Honestly, if you be yourself around women, instead of turning interactions with women into this "Complex and hard to maneuver" situation, you wouldn't have such a hard time. Women are people too. Just interact with them like you would anyone else, and if you're interested, subtly express interest throughout it, if she expresses interest back, step up your game a notch, and so forth.
CalebRMooney 1 month ago
@beloon1970 I'm not super attractive. I'm just an average looking college guy, and I have no trouble finding average looking, to quite attractive girls that I date. Of course being what age I am, none of it is ever supposed to be a serious relationship, but it makes it easy for me to note that It's your lack of confidence and the fact that you put so much emphasis on a relationship in your life that turns girls off of you.
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beloon1970 1 month ago
women will trade a goodlooking guy for a uglier guy with money
jabaocubano 1 month ago
@jabaocubano Not true.
MrVeesworld 3 weeks ago
Like Steve has said average looking for a guy doesn't cut it in todays dating world.
beloon1970 1 month ago
@beloon1970
Yea, they do, you must be really not understand how easy it is to get a girlfriend.
DCTruthPrevails 1 month ago
@DCTruthPrevails you must be one of those guys that is in the above average or good looking catagory otherwise you wouldn't post such an insanely stupid comment.
beloon1970 1 month ago
@beloon1970
It's not a stupid comment. It's common sense. If you have poor personality, sure, if you are average, few girls will want you. I'm just an average looking guy, with a great personality. With you sounding so bitter, you sound like the guy who would turn off several women by being that way.
DCTruthPrevails 1 month ago
@DCTruthPrevails And how exactly is a woman supposed to gauge your personality, if you she refuses to engage with you because she has rejected you because of your looks?. You can have the most awesome personality in the world, but it means jack shit if a woman is not physically attracted to you. I think you truly underestimate just how shallow women are.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
Yeah I got an uncle. Now don't get me wrong he does alot of good shit for me as an uncle like buy clothing and all that. But he too is pussy whipped in sense he would rather beat the shit out of me than the women who divorced his ass, that's how his temperant is.
ultradestruction 1 month ago
its mostly about looks when women look at men. Its looks,money, power ,fame.
stringfellow1970 1 month ago
@stringfellow1970 No no no!! I just made a video about all of this looks vs money and how to get a women etc. It really goes like this; 1 Looks ( the opener) 2 Charisma and Confidence (the deal maker) 3 power or social status 4 Height and last money..
MrVeesworld 3 weeks ago
@MrVeesworld Exactly, and if you don't have quality No1 ie.looks, then all the other qualities are irrelevant.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
@MrVeesworld its looks and money or you better have the looks for sure
stringfellow1970 3 weeks ago
I've seen a hell of a lot of guys that look worse than you do man...and they seem to have pretty decent chicks.I'm an extremely good looking guy and women hate me with a demonic passion because my personality is a piece of shit...I don't try to "understand women,"...I couldn't care less about their "feelings,"...and I'm generally a self-centered,self-obsessed asshole.But the difference between myself and the other guys is that I really mean it; I'm not joking and I don't give a fuck about women.
MrSchultzstaffel 1 month ago 2
i guess i am about average but i don't see why that should be a road block to at least meeting some women unless It means I will have to settle for ugly older women In that case I'd rather be alone.. To young women I am virtually invisible but I don't think I'm the only one with this problem.
beloon1971 1 month ago
I agree with Steve. And also think there is no cure for this problem. If women don't like you, for whatever reason, there is very little if anything you can do to change their minds.
beloon1970 1 month ago
There may be ugly guys with hot women but those guys probably have money. Money,power,fame and you can get women.
beloon1970 1 month ago
u dont have 2 accept shit,,,,,just be cofedent ive seen plenty ugly mufuckaz with beautiful women,,,,its all about cofedence talking a women out her panties,,,we must understand women wants us to take charge,,,and if we show any sighns of bashfulness,shyness or anything like that theyll eat u alive
gohard82baby 1 month ago
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Of course they care about looks. You care about looks. Everyone cares about looks to a varying extent. It's part of the big equation. Get over it. Look at this guy:
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He is overweight, ugly, and has asperger's syndrome. Yet he has found himself a girlfriend.
Why? Because his attitude towards life doesn't send of bad vibes. In your case, they can probably smell it without looking at you. Even those with a 2 rating run away. So shape up!
pdbcas 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@pdbcas Complete and utter BULLSHIT.
If women could "smell" or "sense" that you give off bad "vibes" they would avoid the assholes that end up beating them, cheating on them, getting them pregnant, and becoming deadbeat dads.
ejdf870 1 month ago
@ejdf870 the thing is guys who by appearance fit the role of "rebel asshole" send off good vibes to many women. If you're unattractive, grow a sense of humour. And if you can't do that, nor earn enough of money or gain respectable career, stop whining that you can't pick up women with an above 4 rating, and stop harbouring resentment. If you were them, you would do the same.
pdbcas 1 month ago
@pdbcas No I would not. If I were female I would care that I was physically attracted to my mate, and that he had a pleasant personality. Much the same way I choose females now. Any woman who likes a "rebel asshole" is a dippy bitch with issues and a damaged personality.
ejdf870 1 month ago
guys overcome average looks through high income money,power,fame.alternative would be look in latin america for work women and maybe just live there also
beloon1970 2 months ago
maybe if your really really you'll get noticed!! LOL
goodozog 2 months ago
The dating "scene" has played a cruel trick on women. Western women are raised to have all these ridiculous standards for a man, yet they're so egotistical and short-sighted to see that most of them have this mentality while the men who do meet their ideal standards are few and far between. This causes a socio-economic disadvantage for women, but a vast surplus of pussy supply for these men.
ApollosInsight 2 months ago 2
If your ugly and wanna get laid one thing that can break down the looks barrier is MONEY! it dosent matter what you look like people will notice you everywhere you go if you have money. its the same kind of fake and phoney attentionYoull get being good looking and really It's all equally SAD! that people base there judgement on you on what you have outside of you. but money is stronger than looks..In the end the people who base there whole life on superficiality there really the losers
refusetolose103 2 months ago
Have you ever considered pheromones, bio chemical issues? Biochem does play a part of the attraction process.
LHall3308 2 months ago
@LHall3308 True pheromones do work but use your own. Whenevr you can, get close to a girl or women in conversation s you can easily allow her to smell you without you saying "smell me." LOl This sets of a chemical reaction in her brain if the odor you omit
is the opposite of her immune system. It's a scientific fact that women are attracted by this in this way and have sex with men whom they have smelled. Works for me loads.
MrVeesworld 3 weeks ago
This is going to sound really nerdish, but i have read like a year ago the folowing statement:
- When they invent realistic sex robots we will not need women any more.
this guy was trying to be funny, but i think he has a point, i think that tecnology can solve the problem, i am not sure in what way this could be achived but i thing in the future people are going to find efictive ways to at least mitigate the problem.
trunitus123 2 months ago 3
I am SO sick and fucking tired of things always changing for the worse.
YouTube just redesigned their site, with new colors and a new format. With the old format, your comments on a video were highlighted in bright yellow so you could quickly identify them. Now, there's nothing. You have to, basically, scroll down maybe hundreds of comments and carefully search for your comment.
Fucking disgusting.
I'm not against change, just make it for the BETTER, for once.
ejdf870 2 months ago 7
i used to be really unattractive, too skinny, never fixed my hair, pale, unconfident, etc.
now i am considered attractive handsome and sexy because i started lifting weights and becoming fit and i actually have style now. so much people tell me i am good looking, ive seen so many girls look at me, girls have tried to talk to me YET, i am still so unconfident that i cannot get girls because im too shy.
amouralizee 2 months ago
Women get more unattractive with age while men seem to stay more settled, so women who don't give a fuck about you in your 20 might come knocking on the door when your in your 50s, after shes used up and has 6 kids with half the people you know, and then act like you should be thankful. This is also about the time women find religion.
Faelsun 3 months ago 4
@Faelsun yeah and thats the time when we are also financially stable, and then thats when we can get their daughters over them.
k5lta 3 months ago
@k5lta Amen Jesus.
Faelsun 3 months ago 2
Your face is like your word. If it's no good they don't want anything to do with you. UNLESS you have money. Woman are very picky. Men not so much. Men can be pigs. But women can be cruel. They truly hold all the deck to the cards.
NAGANUGE 3 months ago 9
@NAGANUGE Why do people keep saying that "women choose men"?
Don't I have anything to say about that?
Women can "choose" all they want; if I don't choose them back, they're out of luck.
ejdf870 2 months ago
@ejdf870 ummm we learned in biology that females choose the males, males do the chasing
that is why rape exists. if the women does NOT choose the man and wants him to leave her alone, but the man continues to pursue. that can be considered sexual harassment or ultimately assault.
amouralizee 2 months ago
@ejdf870 women are far more picky than men. they actually do have the power. That's at least the decent ones. The ones where they are worth being with. Then there are always the not so decent. Idk, its kind of late. Ill get back with a better answer.
NAGANUGE 2 months ago
@NAGANUGE Amen to that brother!, well said.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
When you use your power (even be it 'looks') against other people...then you cannot whine whenh they use THEIR real power ('looks' is not the only power)otherwise, against YOU.; 'I learned this as an unattractive kid. I grew my power and used it whenever and on whoever I needed to. All is fair in 'looks' and war.
i know so many looks based people and they are EASY to get around due to their own insecurity. Ban makeup today and most women will commit suicide tomorrow!
shoegooguru 3 months ago
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shoegooguru 3 months ago
My wife loves me...my kid loves me...my dog loves me. everybody else can take a hike. Ugliness is not accepting yourself and the skills you have. I have my own business and decided long ago to rise above the short sightedness of the shallow world. if you need to be good looking to be happy you are like icing without a cake.
shoegooguru 3 months ago
Well, at least you're not Black...
Japanese girls are hot, and they'll go for even the lamest White guy. Black guys, even if we are relatively intelligent and OK-looking generally have to settle for ugly white swine that nobody else wants; well, I'll settle for being alone over that.
Inferior people are the losers in society and nature. I believe in eugenics, for a healthier and happier world.
GeorgeLRockwell87 3 months ago 5
@GeorgeLRockwell87 You sound like you have a lot of self-hatred, I hope you work on that before you age out of the dating scene...
CharlesNigro 3 months ago
@GeorgeLRockwell87 What about being Asian? We have it worst than blacks! But in my situation I still don't make an excuse about my race to improve myself. I just do all I can at the moment, I guess and if I fail it isn't my fault. I can't help being born being ME. =)
RussX5Z 1 month ago
@RussX5Z It's still better being Asian in society. Asian girls flock to White men, but I'd rather be alone, make money, and not be bombarded with hostility than be Black, constantly under attack from all sides and chased by the ugliest women. Alone is better than a walrus in my book.
GeorgeLRockwell87 1 month ago
@GeorgeLRockwell87 Come on man!!!!??? Black guys settling for the ugliest of white women? WTF? First of never settle for anything less than what you want. You need to strive for what you want and present the very best of yourself and you will be given the best back. I am black and never had less than 8 or 9's cause I don't look for 7's or under. Black men are in and have been in since the 80's. YOU need more self estemm brother!
MrVeesworld 3 weeks ago
Dude.. it dawned on me that most men don't known the woman or women they want. They can't describe the woman at all. You have to profile the women you find attractive and find out everything about them. Then find out what qualities they are looking for and develop those qualities. Then you have to get out the house and go where these women are located. Market yourself.. I see fat, lame, even broke dudes with females... I know of this church dude that is ugly and he gets girls cuz of qualities.
pncKing 4 months ago
We all need to listen to the old Janis Ian song "at 17." I think ugly guys should be happy that evil bitchy women won't talk to them as these women just ruin the lives of good-looking guys through or divorce, child support, etc. I agree at 4.00 the game is rigged & there is no way to win. Just don't explode and pay-back what these bitches have done unto them.
matrix9814 4 months ago
Steve Hoca is right. Unattractive men have no leverage in the dating game, and women and attractive men have no incentive to change a game that is rigged in their favor. For many years I subjected myself to this rigged game in the hope that somehow something would change, and of course it never did. I believe that for most unattractive men in America, their only hope is to turn the game back in their favor by going the foreign route. I got smart and did just that, and it worked out for me.
MyPruiz1 4 months ago 5
I think G.S. was a little strange looking but not cripplingly ugly
KasirRham 4 months ago
the less attractive people could overcome by pulling something from left feild by being smarter or having a bus-load of credentials......it's still really messed up though
KasirRham 4 months ago
@KasirRham How about these guys develop their personalities? I don't see how it's messed up that people are attracted to good-looking people, there are certain looks that we're hard-wired to be attracted to. The way that attractive people go about rejecting "undesirables" sometimes is messed up, but you can't control who you desire.
CharlesNigro 3 months ago
@CharlesNigro of course but "developing personality" won't make you sexy in the eyes of most common people. I suggest aiming to attain some massive financial status or something of that nature because that will at the very least get them layed (or laid not sure how that's spelled). I agree that personality is important but it is often worthless in these encounters. A person could get their deep emotional needs met by close friends and family while banging golddiggers and still be fairly happy.
KasirRham 3 months ago
@KasirRham No, no, you misunderstand me. I'm saying instead of focusing on dating since these guys are all but hopeless in that department, they should work on developing their personalities and just work on building a social network. If they want to get laid, I believe there's an entire profession that can get that straightened out, but I don't think that's their issue. Their issue is something that is most likely only remediable by psychiatric/psychological support.
CharlesNigro 3 months ago
Loser in the dating game....
You can lose in dating, but win in life doing what you said. Finding a hobby, doing what you lose, etc. They're independent in many ways.
MrHav1k 4 months ago
@MrHav1k I agree with this, I never approach women..........dont do dating.....dont look at Women fullstop.
I took up two hobbies a few years ago, classical guitar and weightlifting/fitness........and have come along way with both of them
JFB33 2 months ago
@JFB33 Those are my hobbies too!!, Music (Guitar) and i just picked up Bodybuilding.
k5lta 3 weeks ago
since i lost weight im getting way more attention...
MATT111MARTIN 4 months ago
what about ron jeremy?
bluscope 4 months ago
I gotta agree, I was paid more money then the guy teaching me my job once.
ofcourse I did have a bachelor's degree over him but, I also looked much better than him. He was fat and I was fit... they believed I was a better candidate and even talked to me about an assistance manager position They told the other guy the assistance job will not exist again - f**king sucked ass for him huh?
JayLikesSportbikes 4 months ago 4
You're right, there really is no answer. There's nothing you can really do about stuck up, superficial and materialistic women, bucause they have the rights as human beings to make life decisions and have opinions and preferences (just as a man is entitled to his oppinions and decisions), even if those oppinions and preferences are negative and selfish.
martins2009 4 months ago
In a guy*
jaysicka06 4 months ago
Coming from a female, who has been called attractive, I don't care about looks Im a guy.
jaysicka06 4 months ago
"What you do is get money first, then get the looks (plastic surgery), then get everything else as the world is your oyster." --- In my abnormal psy class, this type of view was covered to people who have Narcissistic personality disorder or Histrionic Personality disorder. A few famous people have these types of disorders, and some end up being addicted to plastic surgery for their idea of beauty. Just a side note.
rgchrono 5 months ago
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@asianavenger1994 steve didn't attack you. that's a pretty nasty comment!
METALBUG999 5 months ago 2
Physical beauty is important and valued in society because it is so rare. Most people are ugly, so until that changes, looks will always matter.
proclivity11 5 months ago
TO ALL YOU GUYS OUT THERE Do not get married. Take it from somebody who knows. Your relationship can/will END at any time. Having a ring on your finger doesn't mean you will be till death do you part. You WILL suffer emotionally, financially. Don't worry about what women think of you. Live life for yourself. Men are not losers. Define yourself by your own interests in life.
To hell with what everybody else thinks.
cyberzonie 5 months ago 2
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@cyberzonie dying alone is not fun.
METALBUG999 5 months ago
You say you are average, but your face is above average. I can't really see anything wrong with your face except bump on nose. That can easily be fixed with rhinoplasty. Your face has good proportions and you have plenty of hair. Your eyebrows could use some shaping. Are you short maybe?
LatestUFOSightings 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings : surgery to fix something that is not harming him?? you serious?? wow...how shallow you sound to say that.
rgchrono 5 months ago
@rgchrono I'm not shallow. I'm realistic. If he wants to get laid he should be as hot as possible and eliminate any minor deformities.
LatestUFOSightings 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings: looks will not show the signs of cancer or any of those types of deformities. Realism created via surgery, if it is not causing any health issues, is not "real" as so how you want it to be. No matter how you are trying to make it sound, like you are trying to say that in order for a person to be "hot enough" for you even with the usage of surgery, is still fake and shallow and superficial. You are just confuse
rgchrono 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings : and you are shallow, everybody is. You are just trying to make it seem like you are not. We are all some what shallow, but to try to reject it is just ignorance and being a hypocrite.
rgchrono 5 months ago
@rgchrono Deal with it. How am I hypocrite for admitting that looks matter? It is not shallow. Even fucking birds judge the partners by their feather quality. It shows that you have good genes and will create good offspring. Holy shit you are a moron. Of course looks matters, it's not even being shallow. It's being normal and using this to your advantage.
LatestUFOSightings 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings moron? That is the way you reply when somebody goes against your view? Are you white? White people usually use that term when they don't agree with somebody. Btw! You said you were not shallow last time. Now you are saying that you are and its normal in nature..make up your mind. You are a hypocrite, deal with it. And your idea of getting surgery to "even the odds" in the dating game is fake and superficial. And that view is what makes you an ignorant hypocrite.
rgchrono 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings btw, you talk about nature and natural selection. And yet natural selection does not use surgery in the wild lol. So your point of the birds and what not falls flat on its face on this debate. Lol
rgchrono 5 months ago
Btw! I had to show your replies to both my gf and one of my buds. And they both agreed. There is something seriously wrong with you and how foolish and ignorant your comments are. You are sick and need to see a therapist . I am out, lol, my gf usually gets mad at me for debating idiots online.
rgchrono 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings also! Finding natural things attractive with the other sex, if you are heterosexual, is normal. Asking somebody to change themselves for shallow reasons is just stupid and narcissistic to tell somebody that, especially when it is nothing. You very shallow, superficial, and narcissitic . And I am dealing with it by debating your ignorant add
rgchrono 5 months ago
How do you win in a game which is rigged? I will answer that for you - you play by the rules. The rules basically require 2 things from you: looks and money. Ideally - both.
What you do is get money first, then get the looks (plastic surgery), then get everything else as the world is your oyster.
Why aren't you doing it Steve?
LatestUFOSightings 5 months ago
@LatestUFOSightings because he been too busy fuckin yo mommas pushy every night
xhemexx 5 months ago
Yes. Unattractive men ARE losers. Take it from an attractive man. Yes, I get my fair share of liberty because I'm handsome. But being handsome is neither her nor there. What's paramount is who you are on the inside & how you treat your fellow human being.
upabittoolate 6 months ago
@upabittoolate You are kind of contradicting yourself here, on one hand you make the insensitive comment that ugly men are losers, which is not fair, because it's not the fault of the ugly man he was born that way. But then you say "it's what matters on the inside, and how you treat your fellow human being". Well guess what I am considered ugly by women, but I treat my fellow human being well, does that mean I am a "loser" just because I was born with bad genes?
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 It sucks to be unattractive... I think. Perhaps "loser" is the wrong choice of word. But that doesn't change the fact that the man on the inside is what matters. Looks fade. People get fat. Hair grays & thins. Skin wrinkles. Teeth shift. What you have left is the fellow on the inside. That's what needs to be developed best.
upabittoolate 4 months ago
@upabittoolate Yep it certainly sucks to be ugly, I should know I am ugly, and women don't even want to know me, and yes I treat people well and consider myself a good person on the inside. You should consider yourself fortunate you won in the genetics lottery. And yes looks do fade, the problem is we live in a superficial and shallow world, and ugly guys like me are left to rot alone.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago 12
@InspectorMontelbano1 My friend, I doubt you're anywhere near as ugly as you portray. In fact, I bet I could shop a picture of you & have MAD hoes all over you. I didn't win any genetics lottery. My parents are/were attractive people but what was important is that they loved each other & appreciate the other's mind. Looks are completely incidental; especially for men. A man doesn't have to be "handsome". A man has to give off the vibe that he's together.
upabittoolate 4 months ago
@upabittoolate You have seen a photo of me, so you know why I consider myself unattractive, although I am in good shape. I am bald, and Arab looking, and women simply don't dig that look, it respules them, even though I shower every day, sometimes twice a day, religously wear deodorant and brush my teeth every day. I wish I could get MAD hoes all over me, but that's wishful thiking. I am glad your parents love each other, that's nice to hear. But how do you give the vibe, you "have it togther"?
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Mate, I've seen no photos of you at all. Either way, being bald ain't shit. Being "Arab-looking" ain't shit. It's about how you use your mind & your mouth. Trust me, if you just calm down & stop getting in your own way, you can have mad hoes. You work a proper job. You're keeping your body in good tune. "Together" means you're focused on your own, personal * eccumenical agenda. Stop making it hard for yourself. I bet mad hoes want you & you're just no catching the vibe.
upabittoolate 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Maybe you should have tried harder when you were in your 20's. You know, when you looked a 100 times better, had hair and nearer the age group of the kind of girls you liked, instead of spending 98% of your life NOT approaching a girl.
dahenrysalvador 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador And maybe you should not be so presumptious about me, when you don't even know who I am. I have approached tons of women (over 200), in my teens,twenties and thirties, and I got rejected every single time because of my Arab looks. Stop defending female shallowness, and stop preaching PUA shit, because is PUA is 100% bullshit, just like your assumption of me.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Lets do the math 200 women in what, 200 days? How many days would ~20 years have? 7305. What did you do with the rest? Clearly, you haven't tried hard enough.
Did you think, by just walking around, girls would even notice your excessive grooming? Very feminine of you.
In case you havent noticed, you are male. You have to take initiative. Masculinity is about taking control, working independent of looks. Men can meet who they want; girls can't pick who will approach them
dahenrysalvador 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador Drop the PUA bullshit and shaming language, I have approached women both in person, and on the internet, and in most cases I was rejected instantly because of my looks and perceived race. And you are wrong women CHOOSE, and women hold all the power in the dating game-period. If you were born ugly like I am, and women don't choose you, then as an ugly man, it's not my fault., I was simply dealt a bad hand in life witrh regards to women and dating.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago 18
@InspectorMontelbano1 Lol. You just dont get it. Women cant choose who will approach them. Men can. You obviously dont know how to use that to your advantage.
Its your fault for not having balls to meet MORE women. Also for staying where you live, when you know people there would hate your arab face.
Your problem is, you have a defeatist mindset in which you think men are powerless and women have control. Basically, that defines you. You are powerless and LET women control you, walk over you.
dahenrysalvador 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador No buddy, you don't get it, I agree women don't chose which men approach them, but it's suicide to approach a woman cold unless she is ginving you clear indicators of interest. It's not a matter of having the balls to approaching more women, what do you achieve by constantly getting rejected?, nothing except having your self confidence destroyed. The fact is women in the west do have all the power in the dating game, they choose the men, not men choosing the women.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Suicide? You're not gonna die. Rejection is the first thing you have to face and unfortunately, you never learn anything from it. You just can't realize you would learn subtle things from it because you're too impatient to see results. It's kind of like working out muscles, you don't see results in days, not even weeks. Maybe in a few months, but its in years where you actually see significant results. Self confidence only gets destroyed initially, then there's growth.
dahenrysalvador 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador And what exactly is there to be learned by experience constant rejection??, a great way to destroy your self confidence? The only way to get self confidence is to experience success, there's no other way around it, and you can't fake confidence.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 You know how they treat phobias? Read on it. That's basically similar to what happens here. The more you run away, the harder it is when it gets you back. However, you face your fears on a consistent basis and you adapt. You just have to invest in time and balls. Meeting women once every one quarter of a year (like how you probably did), obviously, rejection would hurt like hell. Go back there and face it. Be honest and tell us, when was the last time you tried?
dahenrysalvador 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador The last time I tried to meet a woman was 4 weeks ago when i went a blind date and usual I got rejeted again, and the excuse this time was "there was no chemistry", which is womanspeak for " I really think you are ugly, but I don't have the heart to tell you". Prior to that, the last time I tried to meet a woman (and got rejected) was December 2007. Yes, all that rejection has made me fear women, but unless it happens to you, then you cannot relate to ugly guys like me.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Hey dude I feel you. I'm ugly and I have a strong loathing for god because of how he made me. But shit what can I do. I don't even waste my time with women anymore. Fuck speaking, befriending or even acknowledging women. They've treated me so horrible for being ugly so fuck them and anyone else for that matter. I like to write rhymes and record music. That's what I spend my time doing. Just find something you love doing, run with it and alienate everything else.
MDDLFNGZ2YA 4 months ago
@MDDLFNGZ2YA Thanks for your message, and I am sorry to hear you have not had much luck with women, but at the same time I am glad to hear that you have found happiness and meaning in your life.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@MDDLFNGZ2YA i will be with you m ugly and fat
dijornopizza 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Trust me bro when you find something you love doing and occupy yourself with it and get better at it, everything else is out the door. Fuck these hoes man don't make them your priority. Trust it ends up bad if you are indeed so ugly like I am. Just find a hobby you love and get better at it.
MDDLFNGZ2YA 4 months ago
@MDDLFNGZ2YA Like the video saids, you need to find happiness and meaining in your life outside your cursed luck with women, and that's what I am trying to do. I now engage in my hobbies, which are going to the gym nearly every day over the last 12 months, and flight simulation. I am also thinking of getting into photography.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@dahenrysalvador
Care to elaborate? What advantage can be derived from having to approach? You can choose who to approach, but in the end ITS ALWAYS THEIR SAY, always. Once you consider the fact that women are always approached and can be picky as shit, where's the advantage?
MrHav1k 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Women dont care about your appearance as much as men do. But i don't recommend to get married these days, men got no rights in western world.
goldewl 4 months ago
@goldewl Thanks for your comment, however I must respectfully disagree, women do go for looks than men do, and women have a very narrow range of what they find attractive in men.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 I feel ya man.
NAGANUGE 2 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 i get to have sex with pretty women and i dont have to pay for it./ Win?
orbitalraindrops 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@orbitalraindrops Yeah, big deal?, so what's your point? If you are a good looking guy, then yes you will get free sex from pretty women, but some of us lost in the genetics lottery, and that's what this video is mainly about.
InspectorMontelbano1 1 month ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 I wouldn't say I'm a good looking guy but it's called being charming, charismatic and confident and not what I beleive you lot are doing which is beleiving that you have no chance whatsoever, that it's societies fault and consequently wallowing in self pity.
orbitalraindrops 1 month ago
@orbitalraindrops You are probably better looking than what you claim you are, and I respect the fact that you are being modest. That said, I know for a fact, that it's my looks and race that have caused my cursed luck with women. I agree that genuine charisma and charm are attractive attributes, but you have to be good looking/or rich in order to attract women.
InspectorMontelbano1 1 month ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Fair point :)
orbitalraindrops 1 month ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 I'm in the same situation as you,although some women find me attractive,oddly enough.I'm not that distressed about that though.I decided not to have children and not to get married.Although I will miss some fundamental human experiences,I will experience life in a new way.Remember,relationships rarely mean happiness,especially in western states.Find happiness in your hobbies and favourite activities.Searching for happiness in another may end in tragedy and heartache.
SciFiFanatic101 4 months ago
@SciFiFanatic101 Thanks for your message, and I am sorry to hear you that you have challenged by dating (I am), although you mentioned that some women find you attractive. With me, I can safely say no women find me attractive, so my loneliness is forced. That said, I am one of those unattractive guys deemed to be a "loser" by society as this video explains, but I was born unattractive and that's not my fault. I simply lost in the genetics lottery.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago 2
@InspectorMontelbano1 AGREED!!
NAGANUGE 2 months ago
I disagreed with u on the looks theory .. i know plenty of guys who are not attactive at all but do really well with women
mysticman07 6 months ago
@mysticman07 I agree
kambridge967 5 months ago
@mysticman07 Sure the odd ugly guy gets lucky so what?, I also know heaps of unattractive guys (I am one of them), and they fail miserably with women, not because they are not good people, but because of their lack of good looks. Sorry, women are shallow creatures.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
Have you thought about a hair cut that isn't 20 years old?
Balata34 6 months ago
Steve, ive pondered over the looks conundrum myself and i can safely conclude that its much more important for a man to be goodlooking in order to be desirable.
what frustrates me is when women complain about the harsh beauty standards ad how men are the 'shallower sex' when in reality an average looking woman still gets attention from men, still gets a lot of dating and sexual opportunities...way more than the man who is her equivalent in looks.
runtodahills 6 months ago
@runtodahills
A woman of average looks will get more attention and anything from offers of sex to marriage-minded men, than a men in the same physical looks bracket---he will get FAR less.
From a superificial standpoint, I'm tall, getting in shape, muscular, and not to much of an eyesore otherwise and I only get a few women interested in me once in a while.
A woman that's in good shape and don't have a face like the Hunchback Of Notre Dame will always have men's attention. Period . .
Wytchfinde 6 months ago 9
@runtodahills
Only when women are ignored and old will they discover what men go through with their entire lives if we don't make our presence known with women---being marginalized. I honestly think that the typical US woman now has ZERO clue what men go through in this area. For example, if they can go into a bar and pick someone up, whether for a one night stand or LTR, men should easily do it, too, right? It's never that easy for most men unless you're at (or near) the top of the heap.
Wytchfinde 6 months ago 2
@professorjackasss
the unattractive women are the bottom 15% in terms of looks...those who are really challenged aesthetically or obese. beyond that most women are atleast attractive to some extent.
unattractive men are like 40% of the male population. that is how women rate men. they find very few men attractive (to any degree).
runtodahills 6 months ago 2
I did like how you talk about Asperger's in this video. I'm sure I may suffer from some sort of Asperger's or mental handicap, and yes, looks do matter and when you do suffer a mental handicap that can also make one seem less attractive. Everyday I begin to realize, I may never find friends or a girlfriend. I figure my time is limited on this planet and with my high interests in high risk adrenaline sports. I don't think I'll have to worry about a long lonely life.
RB902050 6 months ago 2
"Average don't cut it if you're a guy in this day and age." Very true.
gtrgy888 7 months ago 2
@gtrgy888
true. average women can still attract men and get a lot of dating & sexual opportunities.
runtodahills 6 months ago
the winners are not the good looking people... it's the rich people that win
wrlddstrctn 7 months ago
@wrlddstrctn
That's what society tells you. Money is important. Pffff.... Biologically, the one who has the most children wins because his genes will last longer than everybody elses. You can't buy that for money.
SkyF0X9 6 months ago
@SkyF0X9
Plenty of overweight, ugly, diseased, and cancer-carrying people popping babies nonstop. Rich people can provide good education. Good education will make you healthier as you're smarter and make better decisions. Long-lasting health will prevail and more likely positively mutate - I don't care if someone pops out 500 babies it's no use if they're all cancer-prone and die.
wrlddstrctn 5 months ago
If you want me to elaborate, I agree with your general realistic view on life. Looks do matter, but to an extent. You just need to be passable for most people, which I think you are. I also agree with your outlook on women having too much power in choosing and I could go more but the comment section is low. I just think you need to up the self-steem on your chances with scoring. Not on who you are as a person, but as your chances with women go I think you rate your chances too low, needs sorted.
Shemmmy 7 months ago
@Shemmmy Looks are a very big deal to women, if you don't pass the looks test, it's game over for you. Take me for example, I am 43 years old (in good shape), but I have a very, very ugly face, and women reject me even before I open my mouth.
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago
I disagree with this, agree with some statements tho. Youre not born a loser. Ive been single for years now, not had sex in 2. Balding, and obese. However, I realize this is MY fault because I let myself go. Once I get fit, I'll be getting women. You're not a bad looking guy, you might not stand out of the crowd looks wise, but surely you have other qualities going for you? I just think you lack confidence in getting women (you might have confidence in yourself, but not with scoring with women)
Shemmmy 7 months ago
@Shemmmy I too used to be overweight, that was my fault as I let myself go, however over the last 12 months I have been going to the 7days a week and have lost 21kg (46lbs), and now I have a decent body, but I am still getting rejected by women because I am bald and have an ugly face. Attraction for the most part, is mostly from the neck up. Having "confidence" does not get you women, LOOKS and MONEY does - period,
InspectorMontelbano1 4 months ago 2
America is blunt on what it wants to look like as well. We are the capital of ignorance. Looks make society, and society is shit, depending on the genre of society-workforce, church community, hip hop community, etc-- The right people give you the right looks and vice versa.but thing is attractiveness isn't the problem in this recession;its usefulness. If you have no swagger faith or confidence for your own then how does life work?Im very intellectual and can teach classes, so im okay
BiGShell 7 months ago