@normison69 First off, learn how to spell maneuver right. Second, the Pak fa which doesn't deserve to to be in the 5th generation categorie, since its not a true stealth aircraft. Sukhois never beat f-22's in any war games because they never happened. You Russian bums talk of how maneuverable your jets are, but don't realize they are incapable of performing such maneuvers at high altitudes or in a real dogfight.
@MrWolfvl Ну, если с разных сторон, да еще внутри разногласия будут с адыгами, кабардой и т. п., то не факт, что постоит.
Суть в том, что технике уход нужен. Очень много хлама уже, а последняя реформа по обслуживанию военных объектов гражданскими кампаниями в нашей области весь ремонт просто убило. Бабки за договор берут, а потом я не я и **** не моя((
Я не знаю чем будут воевать в третьей мировой войне,но в четвертой мировой войне в ход пойдут камни и палки!(I do not know what will be at war in World War III, but in the fourth world war will turn into rocks and sticks!)
imagine Marines,Rangers,Delta,Task Force(US) and Spetznez(Russia arry i dont really know russian departments i only know spetznez) and SAS(England/Australia)vs.Taliban. WHO DO YOU THINK IS GONNA WIN!(every1 obviously knows whos gonna win)
WHY DONT YOU HAVE A WAR WITH RUSSIA OR CHINA OR NORTH KOREA OR IRAN , STUPID FUCKING AMERICANS PIGS , COWARDS , YOU WILL BE DELETED FROM THE MAP SOON MOTHER FUCKERS
@AfGeneral1992 Not to appear hostile or anything but is that a joke on how the soviet armed forces had to pull out of Afghanistan I am just wondering, and besides its because of the us the the soviets pulled out I am sure if Russian provided arms and training to the Taliban the us troops would pull out within months.
this question is for the officers and nco's.....................Why is Putin defending that girl killing twit Ahmedinajad? you all know the Tehran regime is a sad case of excessive implementation of extremist religious policies! One thinks of the Spanish Inquisition!! and Putin supports such a torture state?? Alexander Nevsky would have destroyed the Tehran regime! if only such a hero returned!
изза грамматических ошибок вообще не понятен смысл
в описании наисано про конец эры господства америки и что Россия сможет всех завалить так что бессмысленно на нее нападать(еле перевел, писал точно либо китаец либо... русский, как не прискорбно)
а в начале видео написано что мы Russia(N!!!!) Federation- единственная держава не способная одержать победу в войне(не указанная автором, вероятно в любой)
ах если бы все было так, как на этик картинках. Все чисто и прекрасно. Ведь в армии дедовщина, а в кремле на это наплевать. В США с этим строгая борьба, у них служить в армии это престиж, у нас служить в армии 1 год сравнимо чуть ли не с адом. Обидно, что в такой великой и прекрасной стране как Россия, в ее армии дедовщина... обидно.
ow and btw without Germans you Russians would still use crappy tanks,weapons and jets. They actually made the father of the AK-47 (look it up the german made STG-44 made in 1944 and the first assualt rifle in the world and father of the AK-47) without germans you wouldnt have jets (first fighting jet in the skie ME-269) without germans you wouldnt have long distance rockets (German made V-1 and V-2) these are all weapons made by (Nazi)Germany in the period of 1940-1945.
@unrealassasination Really well buddy Germany lost to Russia in WWII and Russia ever since the cold has stood on top of the military leader boards. Another thing USA don't make the best planes in the world an SU-35 can dominate a F-22 any day of the week, so put a little more research into these things before you start bragging.
@zalowiece First of all the SU-35 is not a prototype and Second the SU-35 has much more maneuverability and versatility than the F-22, I don't mean to offend your opinion or you but could you please explain your reasoning behind this, but we can both that are good planes.
@xxxCRAZYLOVExxx Well really looks like every getting owned by the Taliban especially the USA, So Think more on a broader spectrum before you pass judgement on countries winning or losing war.
@ak4ben An Su-35 can't do anything to an F-22, stupid. The F-22 will destroy it long before the Su-35 pilot will even know he's been targeted. Furthermore, there's a very small number of Su-35s in active service, so stop bragging with this piece of junk, which is nothing more than a Su-27 with canards and TVC, which was stolen from the Americans anyway. The Su-35 can't do shit to an F-22 or even to an F-35. The F-35 can also destroy the Su-35 before being detected.
@StiviGun1 The F-22 won't be used in action because of it's countless lacks. The funny thing is that the F-22 killed more US Pilots than enemies...oh wait, it hasn't killed enemy pilots at all. And the F-35's engine looks damn similar to our YAK-141's engine BUT Yak-141 was finished in 1990 and you came up with the same technology much later...hmm...suspicious isn't it?
LOL you have about 183 F-22 and all of them are useless, we have 15 Mig-35 and all of them can kick ass LMAO
@SovjetPhoenix Get your head out of the gutter. The F-22 is the most advanced fighter in active service in the world today. It hasn't killed any enemy pilot because right now, it has no enemies to be sent after. But you, Russians should be the last who talk about this, because your fighters never killed any enemy fighter. However, they did get their sorry rusty asses kicked by the American fighters in all the conflicts they were used, so shut you pie hole.
@StiviGun1 The MIG-35 is based on the Mig-29 but totaly updated so how can be a Jet a failure if it's based on a well known Jetfighter? The F-22 on the other hand still had no chance to be used in action and don't say that there's no serious enemy for that craptor. We can use a S-300 Missile and believe me this is a deadly enemy of every missile and jetfighter you have! We don't even need jets to cut your wings of...
@SovjetPhoenix Stop talking about the F-22 having no chance to be used in action. You, who had all your fighters fucked even when they did have the chance to be used in action, are the last who should talk about this.
No, the F-22 has no enemy to be sent against, period. The S-300 was never proven to be able to detect fighter jets. But even if they can, there are other means to take out such systems, like long range cruise missiles.
@StiviGun1 We'll see soon enough how good it is...or maybe not? Who knows maybe your smart government will replace it after they spend money for 183 of them.
If you think that we're worried about your F-22 or F-35 then you're totaly wrong, you on the other hand have a reason to be worried. USA still don't have a Air Defence System that can take down Bulawa or RS-24 JARS Missiles.
btw: S-400 takes missiles down with a speed of mach 12+ ;-)
@SovjetPhoenix They won't replace the F-22 until 2030. There's no need for that. The PAK FA won;t go into production until 2020 and so is the case with the J-20. The PAK FA will be built in small numbers, 200 of them, 50 of which will be trainers. And nobody knows how many J-20s will be built, but they certainly won't be able to put into production until 2020. So in the next 10 years, there's not air force that can challenge the USAF.
@SovjetPhoenix America doesn't have to defend against ICBMs. Russia doesn't have such a system either. The S-400 can't defend against ICBMs and that missile that reaches mach 12 is not even in production yet. Russia may have more powerful ICBMs, but you still don't have any defenses against the US ICBMs. Of course, they could've had more powerful ICBMs than you if Kennedy hadn't been president and if he hadn't put that sissy McNamara secretary of defense. But that's another story.
@StiviGun1 Well that proves that you don't know that much about S-400 and S-500. S-500 will enter service in 2020 and will be able to intercept missiles with a speed up to mach 20! And the S-400 is the best Air Defence System right now which is able to take down Missiles with a speed of 18.000kp/h. It may be not able to take a long range ICBM out but the short- and middlerange ICBM's can be intercepted! Patriot on the other hand have a max speed of Mach 3 and Mach 5, too slow!
@SovjetPhoenix The only S-400 missile that can do that is the one that is not even used by the system and nobody knows when it will be introduced. Right now, the S-400 uses S-300 missiles. The only new missiles are those small 9M96 ones. The 40N6 missile, that is claimed to have those performances is not even in tests yet. It is not used by the system. And the S-500 doesn't even exist yet. And I don't think it will ever exist because it would violate the 1972 ABM treaty.
@StiviGun1 Do you really think that russia cares about contracts made by uncle sam or NATO? We could step out of the START contract and USA wouldn't be able to change it. USA isn't god.
@SovjetPhoenix Those treaties were made by US and USSR. And Russia has taken the responsibility to respect the treaties USSR has signed. No, Russia will not break any pact. That would give the US a moral reason in front of the world to develop their own such systems. So I don't think Russia will do this. That means, no defenses against US ICBMs. The strategic balance is being kept. I don't think Russia wants to be the one who breaks this balance.
@StiviGun1 What about your missile-shield right infront of us? This is a provocation and you should know that! That was a reason to break ALL pacts with the US because we see this missile shield as a provocation and threat to us.
Don't act like the US owns the whole world, okay? USA isn't god and you've never been and won't be either. Btw: you sound like USA owns this planet...
@SovjetPhoenix Then why don't you break up those pacts? When the US pulled out from the 1972 ABM treaty, you threatened you will redraw from the INF treaty. So why didn't you do it? I don't think you will redraw from the ABM treaty either. That's not the game your politicians want to play, furthermore, Russia can't afford a new arms race.
Regarding the ABM system US wants to put in Europe, that can't intercept your ICBMs and you know that very well. Putin and your politicians are
@SovjetPhoenix simply using this to distract your attention from the real problems you have. But they know very well this system is not a threat for your "nuclear deterrence capabilities", which actually means the capability to threaten others, but whatever...
Are you really sure to know all about russian politicians and what they say and about russian military capabilities? Are you informed by your politicians?
@Diana0212ify I make my own documentation on what I want to know. Nobody's telling me anything. But regarding the Russian politicians, I am very sure. They're just using this "external enemy" argument to distract the Russian people from the real problems Russia has. And it seems like it's working. Without this, Putin would never win a second term. All he has is anti-American and anti-Western rhetoric. Without this, he's nothing in front of the Russian people.
Well...I'm not going to say anything badly about Putin who made a big progress in all ways in Russia. Beleive me, there are millions people who understand it and still want him.But taking into account the big wish of USA to partecipate in local political life of Russia (and not only Russia), and many other factors + a lot of representatives of opposition are american citizens (ex-russian citizens), I do beleive he has a reason to say that.
@Diana0212ify And why are you so sure America wants to intervene in Russia internal policy? Because Putin says that? Of course he says that. Just like any dictator who doesn't take responsibility. He creates an enemy that he presents to the people so people won't focus on their miserable lives anymore. A typical dictator's tactic. Also, if ex-Russia citizens don't want Putin should give you something to think about. They've been in other places, they have an opened mind.
@d4v3tm I never heard the American leaders blaming outside factors for the problems they have in their own country. I never heard any American leader saying that wall street protests were staged by foreign secret services, like Putin always cries out.
@SovjetPhoenix BTW, it's funny and also, very hypocritical, accuse US of acting like they want to own the whole world, when that's exactly what you want. That's what you wanted when the USSR existed. You wanted to feel like you were the rulers of this world and you liked to feel that way. So stop being hypocritical and stop with such pathetic accusations. There's only one reason you hate the Americans for: because they are what you want to be.
@StiviGun1 We don't hate them, we disrespect them. We don't barge in foreign nation's problems like the US do. USA talks too much about freedom and democracy and what they get is ACTA, SOPA and the other SHITHEADS who try to control people's actions. USA uses democracy as a pretense but facilities like Guantanamo which is plain and simple a concentration camp show US' true face. People aren't blind like ten years ago, they see whats going on and thats why US is crumbling.
@SovjetPhoenix The only reason you're not interfering in other nation's internal affairs is only because you don't have the resources to do it. And since the USSR committed probably more crimes that anyone else in the countries it occupied, you don't have any right to "disrespect" anybody. But that's not it. You hate them because they do what you would like to do. They're displaying military power all over the world and that's what you can't stand. That's why you hate them.
@StiviGun1 Honestly, we don't hate them, we truly disrespect them and no one and I mean NO ONE on this planet can change that. Talking about crimes, let's see...two nuclear strikes in Japan, usage of napalm in vietnam (killed many innocent people), usage of ammunition containing uranium, air strikes on public facilities in Belgradm, oh yeah and there's a nice Apache footage showing a TV Crew getting vaporized by US Apache. And how many crimes does the US in Guantanamo daily?
@SovjetPhoenix Helicopter crew didnt know they were reporters. Ive seen said video. And yeah that "camera" Looks like a weapon. Secondly werent your grandparents fighting the japs too? Yeah talk shit about a country that ended a war that couldve killed old Grandpa Rusky. Its simple. Leave us the hell alone and we wont fuck your world upside.
@SovjetPhoenix People who criticize America for using the atomic weapons at the end of WW2 are just ignorant or simply stupid. Russia would've also used it against Germany if t had had it. Japan would've used it against America if it had had it. America simply used to it to end the war quicker and with less casualties. As far as it could've been done during an all out war time.
Regarding the Guantanamo, that's candy compared to Kankala, so shut your mouth.
@SovjetPhoenix there's no such thing as a "short and middle range ICBMs"... ICBM stands for Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. So how the hell could such a missile have short or medium ranges? The S-400 could intercept missiles with a mid range of 3500 km max. That's what is claimed, anyway. The 40N6 missile that is claimed to be able to do this is not in service. And BTW, that missile is huge, only 2 of them will fit on a launcher.
@SovjetPhoenix It would need a very powerful vehicle to transport those missiles. And what industry does Russia have now? Russia's industry is only a fraction of what USSR's industry was. I don't think you'll be able to build such a vehicle, let alone produce it in large numbers. The USSR was spending huge amounts of money on the development of vehicles that carries the S-300 missiles. Russia doesn't have that industrial and economic power.
@StiviGun1 Powerful vehicle? Look at the MZKT-79221, that thing is strong enough and I doubt that a S-400 Missile is bigger than a RS-36 ICBM with a 20MT Warhead or a RS-24 JARS with 4-6 550KT Warheads. And even if we need a powerful vehicle we'll build one...I mean we even restarted the construction of the famous "EKRANOPLAN" so don't talk nonsense about our industry. Russia is rising if you didn't realized it yet.
@SovjetPhoenix All the vehicles built by the MKZT were built in the Soviet Union, not Russia. And that factory is located in Minsk, Belarus, not Russia. And right now, it's oriented more to civilians products, not military. But it doesn't matter because it doesn't belong to Russia. So like I said, Russia has only a fraction of the industrial capability USSR had. So no, you can't afford to do these things.
@StiviGun1 Yeah it was build in Minsk but that won't change the fact that we have the know-how HOW to create this vehicles and if we have to we'll build them again and no one will complain about it because most people don't want to be in trouble with Russia. And I doubt seriously that Belarus would go against Russia ;-)
@SovjetPhoenix It doesn't matter if you have the "know-how" if you don't have the actual necessary facilities to built them in. The know-how that you talk about is nothing without an industrial infrastructure where the know-how can be put into practice.
@StiviGun1 Well I'm sorry if you feel that way sir, but I must admit I had no intention of bragging, I was merely stating about observations and performances I have seen. The point being is that f-22 uses stealth systems while great for sneaking up on enemy craft or bombing runs it doesn't give you the greatest advantage in a dogfight, while on the other hand the SU-35 has incredible maneuverability which gives it a massive advantage over a dogfight or escaping one through something like a city.
@ak4ben The Su-35's maneuverability comes at a cost. The TVC system is heavy and it take away from the aircraft's thrust/weight ratio. The Su-35 has a poorer T/W ration than the F-15. And all the maneuvers you see at those air shows don't have any use in combat. They're not combat maneuvers, they;re just entertainment maneuvers that can't be used in a real fight. The F-22 may not be able to execute all the showy maneuvers the SU-35 executes, it doesn't have 3D TVC, but with its stealth,
@ak4ben it will always destroy the Su-35 long before the Su-35's pilot would even know what hit him. And even in dog-fights, the F-22 has a much better T/W ratio than the Su-35. So if it has a good pilot who knows how to use it strengths, it will defeat a Su-35 in dog-fighting too. But because of the F-22's stealth, there's no comparison between these 2. PAK FA vs F-22 is a different story though, although even that will be too son. The PAK FA is only in its very early developmental
@StiviGun1 Ok, I can see that you are very passionate about F-22's and other American planes as I am passionate about Russian military technology, but we need to stop berating each others and other peoples opinions. Another thing the last comment I posted was merely just stating the type of roles these two planes would be best at in my opinion, but we both can't be 100% sure which one would as I don't of any dogfights that occurred between the two planes, but I guess it would mostly come down to
@ak4ben Look, I am not passionate about the American planes. The truth is the F-22 really is the most efficient fighter that's in service in the world today. A fighter with a large RCS like the Su-35 would never stand a chance against it. And I don't like the lies people tell about this plane, like the guy below who says the F-22 suffers a malfunction at every 1.7 hours WHILE IT'S IN THE AIR... If that was true, the plane couldn't even fly at all. And also, the stupid claims about the
@StiviGun1 It is true. Check from wikipedia or watch a USA made TV show about F-22 Raptor. Just type in the youtube search: F22 Raptor Exposed - Why the F22 Was Cancelled
@normison69 I've seen all the shitty videos about the "F-22 exposure"... Like I said, they're bullshit. They present lies about its cost and about a lot of other things. Some videos clam the F-22 costs over 500 mil$. Its price is 150 mil $. Another lie is about its "skin", bullshitting that it's vulnerable to "rain" while in reality, the F-22 maintained the highest operational status in the exercises in Alaska. So spare me with these YouTube "proofs" 'cause you're pathetic.
@ak4ben F-22's "skin" (which is the radar waves absorbing material) is "vulnerable to rain". The F-22 took part in several exercises in Alaska and it maintained the highest operational level from all the fighters that took part in those exercises. 99% of the rumors spread about this fighter are not true. That's what I don't like. Lies and misinformation.
You're right about the pilots being the decisive factor in confrontations between conventional fighters, like F-15 vs Su-27. But not
@ak4ben when it comes to a stealth fighter like the F-22 and a conventional fighter, like Su-35. The fact that the F-22 can detect a conventional fighter and engage it long before that conventional fighter can even detect it, will always provide the victory for the F-22. This is a fact.
@StiviGun1 придурок американский твой Ф-22 может засечь любой новый радар России и хвастаться тем что наши Ф-22 не боевые самолёты а самолёты для игры в прятки как минимум тупо.. Самая моя любимая цитата по отношению к России и Америке это- ''Америка это красиво, но не эффективно''
Хватит жрать гамбургеры и играть в Call of Duty и Battlefield, займись спортом, почитай умные книжки их не просто так пишут)
@StiviGun1 I see what your saying but that doesn't make the F-22 fighter the best plane in the world nor SU-35 there is always something out that is better. Another thing is that planes that use stealth systems do show on radar just smaller and you haven't given any credit to the maneuverability of an SU-35 which if used correctly can be just as good as a stealth system. Oh and by the way leave Anis1mus alone he's comment may have annoyed you but that's no reason to tell him to speak and call
@ak4ben Well, show me an aircraft out there that is in service and is better than the F-22. Regarding stealth planes appearing on radar, you need a very large computational power for the radar to actually be able to locate a stealth fighter. So such a radar can't be put on a fighter. So no, fighter will never detect the F-22. Certainly not the current radars that are installed on the Russian fighters.
Please tell me, how can maneuverability be as good as stealth...?
@StiviGun1 In visual range combat or radar visual range, manovarability beats stealth. Current radars are ones best in the world in most modern Russian jets. Plus there will be soon far better stealth fighter than the Craptor. Its called the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA. Why then Sukhoi planes usually beat F-22 in military wargames (not pc games)? Yes the Raptor will detect and fire first missile, but if the SU-35 dodges it, F-22 is in trouble. Really F-22 is most overrated plane of all time.
@normison69 What are those "real war games" that you claim the crappy sukhoys beat the F-22, you idiot? No Sukhoi has ever been pitted against the F-22. Stop this pathetic bullshit.
That "radar visual range" boy, in the scenario in which an Su-35 fights a F-22, is very small. The Su-35 will never even see the F-22 so stop being stupid.
regarding PAK-FA, let's see that garbage being put into active service and then talk about it.
@StiviGun1 Ive sent you a video about the wargames, the Craptor is world most overrated plane. By its cost you can build probably 3-4 SU-35s and one F-22 has no chase against that amout. F-22 is not a dogfighter and its not invisible to naked eye. It has less payload that SU-35 and if the first missile misses the SU-35 or it dodges it. Then it will close into visusal range combat and its bye bye Craptor. Its not made for dogfigting. F-22s are always grounded during rain.
@normison69 The video you sent me shows a SIMULATED (get this to your small brain) war game and it involved the F-35, not the F-22... And it proved nothing, that short video is just a very small part of what that war game was about. It's a pathetic bullshit promoted by a Russia reporter. The narrator is the same idiot who made several videos with how "stupid" the Americans are...
The F-22 was designed for dog-fight as well. That's why it has TVC. Its design is also made so it would
@StiviGun1 It was involed the F-22 in Pasific Vision. F-22 Raptors, F-35s and F-18s all were involved in Pasific Vision its just that the info about the losses of F-22 are just classified to the Australians. But anyways Red Team won hands down even though they had less planes by far.
@normison69 And when did that "Pasific Vision" take place? And what nations were involved? What countries that had Sukhoi fighters did participate? And how could have the F-35 participated, when it entered low rate initial just production recently? Did they use the models that were built for testing? If yeah, then that doesn't mean shit. Those models don't have the same capabilities those that will enter active service will have. So you point is still just a bullshit.
@normison69 be a good dog-fighter. But it doesn't need that when it confronts a conventional fighter, like the Su-35. It can take it out long before the Su-35 can even see them. In fact, it can engage the Su-35 from such a close distance, that your Su-35 doesn't have a chance evading that missile. The Su-35's radar can't detect the F-22. In order to come down to a dog-fight, the pilot actually needs to see the F-22. And he will never get that close.
@StiviGun1 Erm get in your skull this first F-22 Raptor IS NOT INVISIBLE TO RADAR it just has small radar signature compared to other jets. So it will appear eventually on SU-35s or SU-37s radar. SU-37 has one of most powerful radars installed and it relies not on just conventional radar waves.
@normison69 I never said it's invisible to radar. But the radars that are installed in the current Russian fighter jets (or on any other jet) certainly can't see it. At least not before it's way too late. So your Su-35 and "Su-37" (which is basically and Su-35...) will never be able to detect the F-22 on time.
What is the radar you say the Su-37 is equipped with? And stop saying "Su-37" because there's no plane with this designation in the Russian air force... It's Su-35.
@StiviGun1 And after firing actually a missile the F-22 will reveal its position to SU-35/37 then if the Sukhoi manages to dodge / jam / chaff the missile, it will close in to F-22 and probably kill him. You really seriously underestimate the manouvarability of Sukhoi planes and the modern radars that they have. Plus they have more payload.
@normison69 The F-22 will not reveal its position after firing a missile. The missiles bays don't stay opened long enough for an enemy radar to be capable to locate its position. All you come up here is with hypothetical situations that MIGHT happen. This doesn't win wars kid.
When it comes to confronting a stealth aircraft like the F-22, the suckhois maneuverability actually mean nothing. They will never be able to come close enough in order to use that maneuveability. But even if,
@normison69 by some sort of miracle, they do manage that, the victory is still not guaranteed. The F-22 still has some advantages in dog-fighting arena as well. It has a better thrust/weight ratio, which give it better turning and climbing rates. Just because the Su-35 can execute maneuvers the F-22 can't doesn't guarantee its victory. It needs an extremely well trained pilot that can use that maneuverability at its full potential. And Russia lacks such pilots. Don't try to deny this
@StiviGun1 him a moron, plus a fair portion of people who watch Russian military videos are actually Russian and thus speak the language. Even one of the top comments is in Russian and no need to call him a moron, so please I ask you and every one on to keep arguments civil.
@ak4ben First of all, if someone annoys me, that IS the best reason to call him/her a moron. And you are not in the position to tell me how to talk to others. It's impossible for that guy to think I was a Russian. My comments clearly showed the contrary. He wrote in Russian because of that typical arrogance that Russians have. I don't want to learn the Russian language and I never will. And the history showed that nobody wants to learn it. So speak in English when you're on YouTube.
@StiviGun1 the pilots, so yeah let us try to civil and reasonable throughout the future please. oh and by the way thank you for apologising for insulting that was very mature
@ak4ben I agree, F-22 is mostly junk. I suffers a critical failure every for every 1.7 hours in the air and its "stealth skin" is vulnerable to rain. They require 30 hours of maintenance for every 1 hour in the air. They are not invisible to radar, they just have smaller radar signature. Plus they are not invisible to naked eyes. They cannot launch from other than hard surface airfields and they are not as manouvarable as SU-35. Plus you can build probably 3-6 SU-35 at cost of one Raptor.
@normison69 Yeah I myself am not a fan of American tech due to reliability issues, and it is great how cheap Russian stuff is, the still produce massive amount of weapons and other armaments even though they are basically bankrupt.
@ak4ben Erm now in 2012 its USA who is bankrupt and dragged half of EU with them (greedy jews and G.W), USA is knee deep in debt. Obama has made huge budged cuts for military and other stuff. while Russia is constantly growing economically and military wise. Russians overcame the hardships of the 90s and now its military budget is 4th or 5th largest in the world and growing every year and so is GDP. Probably 3rd at military budget in 2014. Moscow is one of most expensive cities in the world.
@normison69 Yes I see but still even with a troubled economy they can produce massive amounts of SU-35 and I read your comment below and agree with what you say the F-22 is over rated, which is mostly due to American propaganda about them being the best and thank you for acknowledgement the maneuverability of the SU-35 it is a massive advantage in dogfights.
@ak4ben "Massive amounts of SU-35"? And how many Su-35s have been produced so far, since you like to talk about propaganda? The Russians air force will get 48 of them by 2015. The Americans may have their own propaganda, but you Russians, surpass everybody in this. But the Americans, at least, don't claim the opposite of what everybody knows so at least, they don't make fulls out of themselves.
@StiviGun1 I said they can produce massive amounts due to the cost of them, which with most Russian technology is fairly cheap. Another thing I'm not Russian I'm actually Australian and we buy the American planes so my opinion is not biased to my country. Now just me where your going with this propaganda, the US always claims itself to be, in which they have never proved. One more thing, about your missiles locking onto an SU-35 there is on-board called flares which attracts missiles off course.
@ak4ben "there is on-board called flares which attracts missiles off course." F-22 has these too. Combined with its stealth, it means no 4.5 gen fighter will stand a chance against it.
"I said they can produce massive amounts due to the cost of them". Well, if those fighters are so cheap, that means Russia is more weaker economically than I ever thought. If they can only afford to build 48 of them until 2015, that means they're EXTREMELY weak.So your comment is actually anti-Russian...
@ak4ben BTW, you keep talking about how "cheap and reliable" Russian military tech is, but have you ever wondered why nobody has ever bought the SU-35? And there would've been no problem with this sine the aircraft really is cheap. About 35 mil per unit. So why has nobody bought this thing? The Russian alleged capability to produce cheap and reliable, but in the same time very capable weapons systems is just a myth, boy. Stop listening to everything Karlo Kopp says. He's extremely biased
@StiviGun1 Who the hell is Karlo Kopp and speaking of biased you been going on about your F-22 like its some kind of god or something. So don't attack me with hypocritical claims and have ever seen an F-22 perform in combat? If not then how could you be so fixated on it's abilities and maybe you should so much American Propaganda and actually look at the abilities of both planes and they perform before you start questioning other points of the Argument. and my comment before wasn't anti-Russian
@ak4ben "and have ever seen an F-22 perform in combat?" You haven't seen an Su-35 performing in combat either, yet you make all sort of statements on how good it would be... So don't accuse me of hypocrisy. I don't consider the F-22 any kind of "king of gods", but hey, if you assume the Su-35 is as good as the Russians claim, then I think it's fair to assume the F-22 is at least half as capable as it it advertised. And it would still be untouchable by your Su-35.
@ak4ben BTW, Karlo Kopp is an Australian military analyst. He wrote many papers against the F-35 and why that aircraft should not be adopted by Australia. In his works, he always praised the Russian Sukhoi fighters (like you) to prove the F-35 is not good against them. I'm surprised that you, an Australian haven't heard of him.
@ak4ben How do you know it performs so highly? Have you ever seen any of their platforms in combat? If I remember correctly, most of their platforms were always defeated in actual combat by western and in specially American platforms. One example is the MiG-29.
But why you don't like russian music instead of black american music?
MrMsSkimming 3 days ago
Чет я не въехал - Can NOT win the war?!!
OlenPredator 3 weeks ago
Э походу ошибка в надписи в начале, не Russia Federation а Russian Federation! или как тогда переводится это??
ZhekaGTR 3 weeks ago
@normison69 First off, learn how to spell maneuver right. Second, the Pak fa which doesn't deserve to to be in the 5th generation categorie, since its not a true stealth aircraft. Sukhois never beat f-22's in any war games because they never happened. You Russian bums talk of how maneuverable your jets are, but don't realize they are incapable of performing such maneuvers at high altitudes or in a real dogfight.
tonygogap 1 month ago
fu communist russians
FrankTheTank395 1 month ago
@FrankTheTank395 фу тупорылый пиндос)))
Grizlysamuray 1 month ago
@FrankTheTank395 afraid of? properly Fear ...
PitbyJIb 1 month ago
fuck you communist russians
FrankTheTank395 1 month ago
nope usa would have better every thing by then more nukes more everything
williambass1 1 month ago
Наш народ в любой войне с любым оружием за свою родину постоит и даст отпор агрессору.
MrWolfvl 1 month ago 41
@MrWolfvl Любой? Войну, в которой власть занимается геноцидом русских мы уже проебали.
Xocelolprox 1 month ago
@MrWolfvl Ну, если с разных сторон, да еще внутри разногласия будут с адыгами, кабардой и т. п., то не факт, что постоит.
Суть в том, что технике уход нужен. Очень много хлама уже, а последняя реформа по обслуживанию военных объектов гражданскими кампаниями в нашей области весь ремонт просто убило. Бабки за договор берут, а потом я не я и **** не моя((
13bma 4 weeks ago
All I saw were targets!
nascar2w 1 month ago
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T0RT007 1 month ago
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T0RT007 1 month ago
Я не знаю чем будут воевать в третьей мировой войне,но в четвертой мировой войне в ход пойдут камни и палки!(I do not know what will be at war in World War III, but in the fourth world war will turn into rocks and sticks!)
DanielDolotov 1 month ago
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НЕ нравится только из-за английских надписей и песни!
ciobanusoniamagelona 1 month ago
А че за музыка??
blablablatum 1 month ago
@blablablatum нам походу тут не ответят
DERGROSSE2 1 month ago
@DERGROSSE2 походу...
ЭЭЭЙЙ!!! ПЕНДОСЫ! ЧЕ ЗА МУЗЫКА!!!??? What is music???
blablablatum 1 month ago
who can tell me the name of this song?
DERGROSSE2 1 month ago
В начале написано: Какая страна не может выиграть войну? Российская Федерация
П.С. Какой мудак это придумал?
MaxKPowers 1 month ago
@MaxKPowers там написано какую страну нельзя победить? и ответ - это видео, мудак!
blablablatum 1 month ago
Ну ничего, вот свергнем медвепута, объединим братские народы, и дадим вам пизды.
MaxKPowers 1 month ago
Engrish title.
56KbModem 1 month ago
imagine Marines,Rangers,Delta,Task Force(US) and Spetznez(Russia arry i dont really know russian departments i only know spetznez) and SAS(England/Australia)vs.Taliban. WHO DO YOU THINK IS GONNA WIN!(every1 obviously knows whos gonna win)
datcrazykiid 1 month ago
оооооойойойоййй! Боюсь блять!
Roosssssssssss 1 month ago
When you are rich, you don't talk about it. When you are poor, you always talk (dream) about it.
RafalsCom 1 month ago
United States Of America <3
Way to spit on u commies huh?
SemperFidelisUSMC1 1 month ago
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фигня какая та) Америкашки не обойтись нас, у нас кроме ак нет ничего
1ALUKARD 1 month ago
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1ALUKARD 1 month ago
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1ALUKARD 1 month ago
фигня какая та) Америкашки не обойтись нас, у нас кроме ак нет ничего
1ALUKARD 1 month ago
какая страна камера не выиграли войну И что же это значит?
HoronzoT 1 month ago
Тупая страшилка для Янки))))
vaxa71 1 month ago
which country can not win the war ? russia ?
are you retard, russia can win any war they get involved.
and cold war if annyone say somenthing, there is no winners at cold war ok >:I
srheadshot1 1 month ago 3
@srheadshot1 Afghanistan. And yes, there was a winner of the cold war. The U.S.
white7alpha 1 month ago
@srheadshot1 what about when they were in afghanastan...they lost there....
hugetird 1 month ago
@hugetird yea cause the intervention of the dumb CIA
dabur872916 1 month ago
@hugetird SAME SAME LIKE US lost the war in nam. kgb got their hands over there.
if you dont know stuff dont comment.
afghanistan and vietnam were battle fields for testing weaponry.
dabur872916 1 month ago
@dabur872916 huh what u on about im just saying the the russians lost in the middle east wtf u saying
hugetird 1 month ago
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WHY DONT YOU HAVE A WAR WITH RUSSIA OR CHINA OR NORTH KOREA OR IRAN , STUPID FUCKING AMERICANS PIGS , COWARDS , YOU WILL BE DELETED FROM THE MAP SOON MOTHER FUCKERS
Tenki09 1 month ago
y pesnia na anglyskam :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
vvudys 2 months ago
Автор Ануш, не? азис, мать его
Andrey9947 2 months ago
Автор баран...Российская техника и тупая Американская музыка.
1980Gifa 2 months ago
Russia wouldn't stand a change against Afghanistan. Not even a little bit, lolz
AfGeneral1992 2 months ago
@AfGeneral1992 Not to appear hostile or anything but is that a joke on how the soviet armed forces had to pull out of Afghanistan I am just wondering, and besides its because of the us the the soviets pulled out I am sure if Russian provided arms and training to the Taliban the us troops would pull out within months.
TehSadTumor 2 months ago
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jaketaylor15 1 month ago
@TehSadTumor Correct
brendonnz1964 1 month ago
АВТОР ГАНДОН УБЕЙСЯ ОБ СТЕНУ СУКА !!!!
THE AUTHOR KILL ABOUT THE BOUGH WALL!!!!
AngelinaLovetna 2 months ago
Написано
"Какая то страна не может выйграть войну"
Я ебаааал !!!!!!!
AngelinaLovetna 2 months ago
this question is for the officers and nco's.....................Why is Putin defending that girl killing twit Ahmedinajad? you all know the Tehran regime is a sad case of excessive implementation of extremist religious policies! One thinks of the Spanish Inquisition!! and Putin supports such a torture state?? Alexander Nevsky would have destroyed the Tehran regime! if only such a hero returned!
acerb45666555 2 months ago
НЕ нравится только из-за английских надписей и песни
DanielDolotov 2 months ago 7
@DanielDolotov not is the plane its the pilot, so america had the bests pilots.
prsoldier2013 1 month ago
Сербы заебали уже, лижут жопы неподетский! а русаки таки ненаучилисй по ангилский,4о написали вначале видео???
xXxxWARNINGxXx 2 months ago
какая страна не может выиграть войну
STASfromSPB 2 months ago
а прискорбно потому, что большинство россиян не знают язык!
доказательство этому то что все плюсуют!
CoXriX 2 months ago
какой грамотей составил текст?
изза грамматических ошибок вообще не понятен смысл
в описании наисано про конец эры господства америки и что Россия сможет всех завалить так что бессмысленно на нее нападать(еле перевел, писал точно либо китаец либо... русский, как не прискорбно)
а в начале видео написано что мы Russia(N!!!!) Federation- единственная держава не способная одержать победу в войне(не указанная автором, вероятно в любой)
кто писал текст? смысл теряется!
CoXriX 2 months ago
В армию никто не хочет идти. Техника есть, верты есть, а солдат нету. Кто же воевать будет? Хотя... Может найдётся пару милионов.
NIKITA545454 2 months ago
Это провокация? если мы много пьём и у нас слабая экономика, это ещё не значит что народ пал духом и не может воевать!
TheRussianWelder 2 months ago
ах если бы все было так, как на этик картинках. Все чисто и прекрасно. Ведь в армии дедовщина, а в кремле на это наплевать. В США с этим строгая борьба, у них служить в армии это престиж, у нас служить в армии 1 год сравнимо чуть ли не с адом. Обидно, что в такой великой и прекрасной стране как Россия, в ее армии дедовщина... обидно.
MrAipot 2 months ago
I wish I was Russian. The United States is pathetic.
Magabury 2 months ago
@Magabury you really are not happy that you're an American? I have never met such people. you are amazing!
MrAipot 2 months ago
@MrAipot I hate the fact that I am American and live in the United States. I would much rather be living in Russia.
Magabury 2 months ago
@Magabury I'm shocked! I met Russian who wanted to live in the U.S. and Russia to hate. But like you I have not seen! !
Happy New Year!
MrAipot 2 months ago
@MrAipot America isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
Happy New Year!
Magabury 2 months ago
говорите что хотите я лично за своего сына и за свою страну жизнь отдам,всем привет из сибири,красноярск, сосновоборск
MrBalamyt 2 months ago
they really need to switch the pkm for a pkp
GunMaker91 2 months ago
RUSSIA 4REVER!!!
sanek2377 2 months ago
I JUST WANT PEACE!!!Я хочу мира!!!
SgtMeatCake 2 months ago
@unrealassasination you Americans would use crappy tanks and weapons too.
15787marijn 2 months ago
chuzhoy zemli mu ne hotim ni pydi no i svoey vershka ne otdadim
vitok91 2 months ago
unrealassasination i'll call you next week мы русские за себя постаим
androsov100 2 months ago
ow and btw without Germans you Russians would still use crappy tanks,weapons and jets. They actually made the father of the AK-47 (look it up the german made STG-44 made in 1944 and the first assualt rifle in the world and father of the AK-47) without germans you wouldnt have jets (first fighting jet in the skie ME-269) without germans you wouldnt have long distance rockets (German made V-1 and V-2) these are all weapons made by (Nazi)Germany in the period of 1940-1945.
unrealassasination 2 months ago
@unrealassasination Really well buddy Germany lost to Russia in WWII and Russia ever since the cold has stood on top of the military leader boards. Another thing USA don't make the best planes in the world an SU-35 can dominate a F-22 any day of the week, so put a little more research into these things before you start bragging.
ak4ben 2 months ago 16
@ak4ben
1st- Why u comparing prototype with F22?
2nd- Su 35 will have hard times with F22 and even with F16/B52
zalowiece 2 months ago
@zalowiece First of all the SU-35 is not a prototype and Second the SU-35 has much more maneuverability and versatility than the F-22, I don't mean to offend your opinion or you but could you please explain your reasoning behind this, but we can both that are good planes.
ak4ben 2 months ago
@ak4ben ur talking about the same Russians that got owned by those smelly Talibans?
xxxCRAZYLOVExxx 1 month ago
@xxxCRAZYLOVExxx Well really looks like every getting owned by the Taliban especially the USA, So Think more on a broader spectrum before you pass judgement on countries winning or losing war.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben well usa isnt trying to take complete control of afghanistan
xxxCRAZYLOVExxx 1 month ago
@xxxCRAZYLOVExxx Na mate just it's oil
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben exactly, unlike Russia
xxxCRAZYLOVExxx 1 month ago
@ak4ben An Su-35 can't do anything to an F-22, stupid. The F-22 will destroy it long before the Su-35 pilot will even know he's been targeted. Furthermore, there's a very small number of Su-35s in active service, so stop bragging with this piece of junk, which is nothing more than a Su-27 with canards and TVC, which was stolen from the Americans anyway. The Su-35 can't do shit to an F-22 or even to an F-35. The F-35 can also destroy the Su-35 before being detected.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 The F-22 won't be used in action because of it's countless lacks. The funny thing is that the F-22 killed more US Pilots than enemies...oh wait, it hasn't killed enemy pilots at all. And the F-35's engine looks damn similar to our YAK-141's engine BUT Yak-141 was finished in 1990 and you came up with the same technology much later...hmm...suspicious isn't it?
LOL you have about 183 F-22 and all of them are useless, we have 15 Mig-35 and all of them can kick ass LMAO
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix Get your head out of the gutter. The F-22 is the most advanced fighter in active service in the world today. It hasn't killed any enemy pilot because right now, it has no enemies to be sent after. But you, Russians should be the last who talk about this, because your fighters never killed any enemy fighter. However, they did get their sorry rusty asses kicked by the American fighters in all the conflicts they were used, so shut you pie hole.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 The MIG-35 is based on the Mig-29 but totaly updated so how can be a Jet a failure if it's based on a well known Jetfighter? The F-22 on the other hand still had no chance to be used in action and don't say that there's no serious enemy for that craptor. We can use a S-300 Missile and believe me this is a deadly enemy of every missile and jetfighter you have! We don't even need jets to cut your wings of...
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix Stop talking about the F-22 having no chance to be used in action. You, who had all your fighters fucked even when they did have the chance to be used in action, are the last who should talk about this.
No, the F-22 has no enemy to be sent against, period. The S-300 was never proven to be able to detect fighter jets. But even if they can, there are other means to take out such systems, like long range cruise missiles.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 We'll see soon enough how good it is...or maybe not? Who knows maybe your smart government will replace it after they spend money for 183 of them.
If you think that we're worried about your F-22 or F-35 then you're totaly wrong, you on the other hand have a reason to be worried. USA still don't have a Air Defence System that can take down Bulawa or RS-24 JARS Missiles.
btw: S-400 takes missiles down with a speed of mach 12+ ;-)
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix They won't replace the F-22 until 2030. There's no need for that. The PAK FA won;t go into production until 2020 and so is the case with the J-20. The PAK FA will be built in small numbers, 200 of them, 50 of which will be trainers. And nobody knows how many J-20s will be built, but they certainly won't be able to put into production until 2020. So in the next 10 years, there's not air force that can challenge the USAF.
Regarding those "air defense systems" you say
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix America doesn't have to defend against ICBMs. Russia doesn't have such a system either. The S-400 can't defend against ICBMs and that missile that reaches mach 12 is not even in production yet. Russia may have more powerful ICBMs, but you still don't have any defenses against the US ICBMs. Of course, they could've had more powerful ICBMs than you if Kennedy hadn't been president and if he hadn't put that sissy McNamara secretary of defense. But that's another story.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Well that proves that you don't know that much about S-400 and S-500. S-500 will enter service in 2020 and will be able to intercept missiles with a speed up to mach 20! And the S-400 is the best Air Defence System right now which is able to take down Missiles with a speed of 18.000kp/h. It may be not able to take a long range ICBM out but the short- and middlerange ICBM's can be intercepted! Patriot on the other hand have a max speed of Mach 3 and Mach 5, too slow!
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix The only S-400 missile that can do that is the one that is not even used by the system and nobody knows when it will be introduced. Right now, the S-400 uses S-300 missiles. The only new missiles are those small 9M96 ones. The 40N6 missile, that is claimed to have those performances is not even in tests yet. It is not used by the system. And the S-500 doesn't even exist yet. And I don't think it will ever exist because it would violate the 1972 ABM treaty.
BTW,
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Do you really think that russia cares about contracts made by uncle sam or NATO? We could step out of the START contract and USA wouldn't be able to change it. USA isn't god.
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix Those treaties were made by US and USSR. And Russia has taken the responsibility to respect the treaties USSR has signed. No, Russia will not break any pact. That would give the US a moral reason in front of the world to develop their own such systems. So I don't think Russia will do this. That means, no defenses against US ICBMs. The strategic balance is being kept. I don't think Russia wants to be the one who breaks this balance.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 What about your missile-shield right infront of us? This is a provocation and you should know that! That was a reason to break ALL pacts with the US because we see this missile shield as a provocation and threat to us.
Don't act like the US owns the whole world, okay? USA isn't god and you've never been and won't be either. Btw: you sound like USA owns this planet...
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix Then why don't you break up those pacts? When the US pulled out from the 1972 ABM treaty, you threatened you will redraw from the INF treaty. So why didn't you do it? I don't think you will redraw from the ABM treaty either. That's not the game your politicians want to play, furthermore, Russia can't afford a new arms race.
Regarding the ABM system US wants to put in Europe, that can't intercept your ICBMs and you know that very well. Putin and your politicians are
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Just 1 question: why USA with all its military equipment weapon was not able to captivate Vietnam?
Diana0212ify 1 month ago
@Diana0212ify Because of a lot of mistakes and extremely bad decisions taken by very stupid people. Who were probably naturally born with no balls...
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix simply using this to distract your attention from the real problems you have. But they know very well this system is not a threat for your "nuclear deterrence capabilities", which actually means the capability to threaten others, but whatever...
StiviGun1 1 month ago
Are you really sure to know all about russian politicians and what they say and about russian military capabilities? Are you informed by your politicians?
Diana0212ify 1 month ago
@Diana0212ify I make my own documentation on what I want to know. Nobody's telling me anything. But regarding the Russian politicians, I am very sure. They're just using this "external enemy" argument to distract the Russian people from the real problems Russia has. And it seems like it's working. Without this, Putin would never win a second term. All he has is anti-American and anti-Western rhetoric. Without this, he's nothing in front of the Russian people.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1
Well...I'm not going to say anything badly about Putin who made a big progress in all ways in Russia. Beleive me, there are millions people who understand it and still want him.But taking into account the big wish of USA to partecipate in local political life of Russia (and not only Russia), and many other factors + a lot of representatives of opposition are american citizens (ex-russian citizens), I do beleive he has a reason to say that.
Diana0212ify 1 month ago
@Diana0212ify And why are you so sure America wants to intervene in Russia internal policy? Because Putin says that? Of course he says that. Just like any dictator who doesn't take responsibility. He creates an enemy that he presents to the people so people won't focus on their miserable lives anymore. A typical dictator's tactic. Also, if ex-Russia citizens don't want Putin should give you something to think about. They've been in other places, they have an opened mind.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 haha just like in america!
d4v3tm 1 month ago
@d4v3tm I never heard the American leaders blaming outside factors for the problems they have in their own country. I never heard any American leader saying that wall street protests were staged by foreign secret services, like Putin always cries out.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix BTW, it's funny and also, very hypocritical, accuse US of acting like they want to own the whole world, when that's exactly what you want. That's what you wanted when the USSR existed. You wanted to feel like you were the rulers of this world and you liked to feel that way. So stop being hypocritical and stop with such pathetic accusations. There's only one reason you hate the Americans for: because they are what you want to be.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 We don't hate them, we disrespect them. We don't barge in foreign nation's problems like the US do. USA talks too much about freedom and democracy and what they get is ACTA, SOPA and the other SHITHEADS who try to control people's actions. USA uses democracy as a pretense but facilities like Guantanamo which is plain and simple a concentration camp show US' true face. People aren't blind like ten years ago, they see whats going on and thats why US is crumbling.
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix The only reason you're not interfering in other nation's internal affairs is only because you don't have the resources to do it. And since the USSR committed probably more crimes that anyone else in the countries it occupied, you don't have any right to "disrespect" anybody. But that's not it. You hate them because they do what you would like to do. They're displaying military power all over the world and that's what you can't stand. That's why you hate them.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Honestly, we don't hate them, we truly disrespect them and no one and I mean NO ONE on this planet can change that. Talking about crimes, let's see...two nuclear strikes in Japan, usage of napalm in vietnam (killed many innocent people), usage of ammunition containing uranium, air strikes on public facilities in Belgradm, oh yeah and there's a nice Apache footage showing a TV Crew getting vaporized by US Apache. And how many crimes does the US in Guantanamo daily?
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago 12
@SovjetPhoenix Helicopter crew didnt know they were reporters. Ive seen said video. And yeah that "camera" Looks like a weapon. Secondly werent your grandparents fighting the japs too? Yeah talk shit about a country that ended a war that couldve killed old Grandpa Rusky. Its simple. Leave us the hell alone and we wont fuck your world upside.
ShaiqNBaiq5464 3 hours ago
@SovjetPhoenix People who criticize America for using the atomic weapons at the end of WW2 are just ignorant or simply stupid. Russia would've also used it against Germany if t had had it. Japan would've used it against America if it had had it. America simply used to it to end the war quicker and with less casualties. As far as it could've been done during an all out war time.
Regarding the Guantanamo, that's candy compared to Kankala, so shut your mouth.
StiviGun1 2 hours ago
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ShaiqNBaiq5464 3 hours ago
@SovjetPhoenix there's no such thing as a "short and middle range ICBMs"... ICBM stands for Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles. So how the hell could such a missile have short or medium ranges? The S-400 could intercept missiles with a mid range of 3500 km max. That's what is claimed, anyway. The 40N6 missile that is claimed to be able to do this is not in service. And BTW, that missile is huge, only 2 of them will fit on a launcher.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Well if there's only room for two missiles then russia will find a solution. Plain and simple...
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix It would need a very powerful vehicle to transport those missiles. And what industry does Russia have now? Russia's industry is only a fraction of what USSR's industry was. I don't think you'll be able to build such a vehicle, let alone produce it in large numbers. The USSR was spending huge amounts of money on the development of vehicles that carries the S-300 missiles. Russia doesn't have that industrial and economic power.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Powerful vehicle? Look at the MZKT-79221, that thing is strong enough and I doubt that a S-400 Missile is bigger than a RS-36 ICBM with a 20MT Warhead or a RS-24 JARS with 4-6 550KT Warheads. And even if we need a powerful vehicle we'll build one...I mean we even restarted the construction of the famous "EKRANOPLAN" so don't talk nonsense about our industry. Russia is rising if you didn't realized it yet.
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix All the vehicles built by the MKZT were built in the Soviet Union, not Russia. And that factory is located in Minsk, Belarus, not Russia. And right now, it's oriented more to civilians products, not military. But it doesn't matter because it doesn't belong to Russia. So like I said, Russia has only a fraction of the industrial capability USSR had. So no, you can't afford to do these things.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Yeah it was build in Minsk but that won't change the fact that we have the know-how HOW to create this vehicles and if we have to we'll build them again and no one will complain about it because most people don't want to be in trouble with Russia. And I doubt seriously that Belarus would go against Russia ;-)
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix It doesn't matter if you have the "know-how" if you don't have the actual necessary facilities to built them in. The know-how that you talk about is nothing without an industrial infrastructure where the know-how can be put into practice.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 We're able to build these facilities, thats no burden!
SovjetPhoenix 1 month ago
@SovjetPhoenix Ha ha... That's actually even harder.
StiviGun1 2 hours ago
@SovjetPhoenix BTW, the MIG-35 will probably be a failure, just like all the other fighters the American fighters have preyed on... Sweet dreams :))
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Well I'm sorry if you feel that way sir, but I must admit I had no intention of bragging, I was merely stating about observations and performances I have seen. The point being is that f-22 uses stealth systems while great for sneaking up on enemy craft or bombing runs it doesn't give you the greatest advantage in a dogfight, while on the other hand the SU-35 has incredible maneuverability which gives it a massive advantage over a dogfight or escaping one through something like a city.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben The Su-35's maneuverability comes at a cost. The TVC system is heavy and it take away from the aircraft's thrust/weight ratio. The Su-35 has a poorer T/W ration than the F-15. And all the maneuvers you see at those air shows don't have any use in combat. They're not combat maneuvers, they;re just entertainment maneuvers that can't be used in a real fight. The F-22 may not be able to execute all the showy maneuvers the SU-35 executes, it doesn't have 3D TVC, but with its stealth,
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben it will always destroy the Su-35 long before the Su-35's pilot would even know what hit him. And even in dog-fights, the F-22 has a much better T/W ratio than the Su-35. So if it has a good pilot who knows how to use it strengths, it will defeat a Su-35 in dog-fighting too. But because of the F-22's stealth, there's no comparison between these 2. PAK FA vs F-22 is a different story though, although even that will be too son. The PAK FA is only in its very early developmental
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben stages. So we'll have to see how it will present itself in 10 years.
BTW, sorry for calling you stupid.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Ok, I can see that you are very passionate about F-22's and other American planes as I am passionate about Russian military technology, but we need to stop berating each others and other peoples opinions. Another thing the last comment I posted was merely just stating the type of roles these two planes would be best at in my opinion, but we both can't be 100% sure which one would as I don't of any dogfights that occurred between the two planes, but I guess it would mostly come down to
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben Look, I am not passionate about the American planes. The truth is the F-22 really is the most efficient fighter that's in service in the world today. A fighter with a large RCS like the Su-35 would never stand a chance against it. And I don't like the lies people tell about this plane, like the guy below who says the F-22 suffers a malfunction at every 1.7 hours WHILE IT'S IN THE AIR... If that was true, the plane couldn't even fly at all. And also, the stupid claims about the
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 It is true. Check from wikipedia or watch a USA made TV show about F-22 Raptor. Just type in the youtube search: F22 Raptor Exposed - Why the F22 Was Cancelled
or:
watch?v=KaoYz90giTk&list=PL8C683A0AE901259F&index=35&feature=plpp_video
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 I've seen all the shitty videos about the "F-22 exposure"... Like I said, they're bullshit. They present lies about its cost and about a lot of other things. Some videos clam the F-22 costs over 500 mil$. Its price is 150 mil $. Another lie is about its "skin", bullshitting that it's vulnerable to "rain" while in reality, the F-22 maintained the highest operational status in the exercises in Alaska. So spare me with these YouTube "proofs" 'cause you're pathetic.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben F-22's "skin" (which is the radar waves absorbing material) is "vulnerable to rain". The F-22 took part in several exercises in Alaska and it maintained the highest operational level from all the fighters that took part in those exercises. 99% of the rumors spread about this fighter are not true. That's what I don't like. Lies and misinformation.
You're right about the pilots being the decisive factor in confrontations between conventional fighters, like F-15 vs Su-27. But not
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben when it comes to a stealth fighter like the F-22 and a conventional fighter, like Su-35. The fact that the F-22 can detect a conventional fighter and engage it long before that conventional fighter can even detect it, will always provide the victory for the F-22. This is a fact.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 придурок американский твой Ф-22 может засечь любой новый радар России и хвастаться тем что наши Ф-22 не боевые самолёты а самолёты для игры в прятки как минимум тупо.. Самая моя любимая цитата по отношению к России и Америке это- ''Америка это красиво, но не эффективно''
Хватит жрать гамбургеры и играть в Call of Duty и Battlefield, займись спортом, почитай умные книжки их не просто так пишут)
Anis1mus 1 month ago
@Anis1mus Speak in English moron! Nobody speaks your language here!
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 I see what your saying but that doesn't make the F-22 fighter the best plane in the world nor SU-35 there is always something out that is better. Another thing is that planes that use stealth systems do show on radar just smaller and you haven't given any credit to the maneuverability of an SU-35 which if used correctly can be just as good as a stealth system. Oh and by the way leave Anis1mus alone he's comment may have annoyed you but that's no reason to tell him to speak and call
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben Well, show me an aircraft out there that is in service and is better than the F-22. Regarding stealth planes appearing on radar, you need a very large computational power for the radar to actually be able to locate a stealth fighter. So such a radar can't be put on a fighter. So no, fighter will never detect the F-22. Certainly not the current radars that are installed on the Russian fighters.
Please tell me, how can maneuverability be as good as stealth...?
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 In visual range combat or radar visual range, manovarability beats stealth. Current radars are ones best in the world in most modern Russian jets. Plus there will be soon far better stealth fighter than the Craptor. Its called the Sukhoi T-50 PAK FA. Why then Sukhoi planes usually beat F-22 in military wargames (not pc games)? Yes the Raptor will detect and fire first missile, but if the SU-35 dodges it, F-22 is in trouble. Really F-22 is most overrated plane of all time.
normison69 1 month ago 6
@normison69 What are those "real war games" that you claim the crappy sukhoys beat the F-22, you idiot? No Sukhoi has ever been pitted against the F-22. Stop this pathetic bullshit.
That "radar visual range" boy, in the scenario in which an Su-35 fights a F-22, is very small. The Su-35 will never even see the F-22 so stop being stupid.
regarding PAK-FA, let's see that garbage being put into active service and then talk about it.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Ive sent you a video about the wargames, the Craptor is world most overrated plane. By its cost you can build probably 3-4 SU-35s and one F-22 has no chase against that amout. F-22 is not a dogfighter and its not invisible to naked eye. It has less payload that SU-35 and if the first missile misses the SU-35 or it dodges it. Then it will close into visusal range combat and its bye bye Craptor. Its not made for dogfigting. F-22s are always grounded during rain.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 The video you sent me shows a SIMULATED (get this to your small brain) war game and it involved the F-35, not the F-22... And it proved nothing, that short video is just a very small part of what that war game was about. It's a pathetic bullshit promoted by a Russia reporter. The narrator is the same idiot who made several videos with how "stupid" the Americans are...
The F-22 was designed for dog-fight as well. That's why it has TVC. Its design is also made so it would
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 It was involed the F-22 in Pasific Vision. F-22 Raptors, F-35s and F-18s all were involved in Pasific Vision its just that the info about the losses of F-22 are just classified to the Australians. But anyways Red Team won hands down even though they had less planes by far.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 And when did that "Pasific Vision" take place? And what nations were involved? What countries that had Sukhoi fighters did participate? And how could have the F-35 participated, when it entered low rate initial just production recently? Did they use the models that were built for testing? If yeah, then that doesn't mean shit. Those models don't have the same capabilities those that will enter active service will have. So you point is still just a bullshit.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@normison69 be a good dog-fighter. But it doesn't need that when it confronts a conventional fighter, like the Su-35. It can take it out long before the Su-35 can even see them. In fact, it can engage the Su-35 from such a close distance, that your Su-35 doesn't have a chance evading that missile. The Su-35's radar can't detect the F-22. In order to come down to a dog-fight, the pilot actually needs to see the F-22. And he will never get that close.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Erm get in your skull this first F-22 Raptor IS NOT INVISIBLE TO RADAR it just has small radar signature compared to other jets. So it will appear eventually on SU-35s or SU-37s radar. SU-37 has one of most powerful radars installed and it relies not on just conventional radar waves.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 I never said it's invisible to radar. But the radars that are installed in the current Russian fighter jets (or on any other jet) certainly can't see it. At least not before it's way too late. So your Su-35 and "Su-37" (which is basically and Su-35...) will never be able to detect the F-22 on time.
What is the radar you say the Su-37 is equipped with? And stop saying "Su-37" because there's no plane with this designation in the Russian air force... It's Su-35.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 And after firing actually a missile the F-22 will reveal its position to SU-35/37 then if the Sukhoi manages to dodge / jam / chaff the missile, it will close in to F-22 and probably kill him. You really seriously underestimate the manouvarability of Sukhoi planes and the modern radars that they have. Plus they have more payload.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 The F-22 will not reveal its position after firing a missile. The missiles bays don't stay opened long enough for an enemy radar to be capable to locate its position. All you come up here is with hypothetical situations that MIGHT happen. This doesn't win wars kid.
When it comes to confronting a stealth aircraft like the F-22, the suckhois maneuverability actually mean nothing. They will never be able to come close enough in order to use that maneuveability. But even if,
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@normison69 by some sort of miracle, they do manage that, the victory is still not guaranteed. The F-22 still has some advantages in dog-fighting arena as well. It has a better thrust/weight ratio, which give it better turning and climbing rates. Just because the Su-35 can execute maneuvers the F-22 can't doesn't guarantee its victory. It needs an extremely well trained pilot that can use that maneuverability at its full potential. And Russia lacks such pilots. Don't try to deny this
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 him a moron, plus a fair portion of people who watch Russian military videos are actually Russian and thus speak the language. Even one of the top comments is in Russian and no need to call him a moron, so please I ask you and every one on to keep arguments civil.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben First of all, if someone annoys me, that IS the best reason to call him/her a moron. And you are not in the position to tell me how to talk to others. It's impossible for that guy to think I was a Russian. My comments clearly showed the contrary. He wrote in Russian because of that typical arrogance that Russians have. I don't want to learn the Russian language and I never will. And the history showed that nobody wants to learn it. So speak in English when you're on YouTube.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 the pilots, so yeah let us try to civil and reasonable throughout the future please. oh and by the way thank you for apologising for insulting that was very mature
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben I agree, F-22 is mostly junk. I suffers a critical failure every for every 1.7 hours in the air and its "stealth skin" is vulnerable to rain. They require 30 hours of maintenance for every 1 hour in the air. They are not invisible to radar, they just have smaller radar signature. Plus they are not invisible to naked eyes. They cannot launch from other than hard surface airfields and they are not as manouvarable as SU-35. Plus you can build probably 3-6 SU-35 at cost of one Raptor.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 Yeah I myself am not a fan of American tech due to reliability issues, and it is great how cheap Russian stuff is, the still produce massive amount of weapons and other armaments even though they are basically bankrupt.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben Erm now in 2012 its USA who is bankrupt and dragged half of EU with them (greedy jews and G.W), USA is knee deep in debt. Obama has made huge budged cuts for military and other stuff. while Russia is constantly growing economically and military wise. Russians overcame the hardships of the 90s and now its military budget is 4th or 5th largest in the world and growing every year and so is GDP. Probably 3rd at military budget in 2014. Moscow is one of most expensive cities in the world.
normison69 1 month ago
@normison69 Yes I see but still even with a troubled economy they can produce massive amounts of SU-35 and I read your comment below and agree with what you say the F-22 is over rated, which is mostly due to American propaganda about them being the best and thank you for acknowledgement the maneuverability of the SU-35 it is a massive advantage in dogfights.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben "Massive amounts of SU-35"? And how many Su-35s have been produced so far, since you like to talk about propaganda? The Russians air force will get 48 of them by 2015. The Americans may have their own propaganda, but you Russians, surpass everybody in this. But the Americans, at least, don't claim the opposite of what everybody knows so at least, they don't make fulls out of themselves.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 I said they can produce massive amounts due to the cost of them, which with most Russian technology is fairly cheap. Another thing I'm not Russian I'm actually Australian and we buy the American planes so my opinion is not biased to my country. Now just me where your going with this propaganda, the US always claims itself to be, in which they have never proved. One more thing, about your missiles locking onto an SU-35 there is on-board called flares which attracts missiles off course.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben "there is on-board called flares which attracts missiles off course." F-22 has these too. Combined with its stealth, it means no 4.5 gen fighter will stand a chance against it.
"I said they can produce massive amounts due to the cost of them". Well, if those fighters are so cheap, that means Russia is more weaker economically than I ever thought. If they can only afford to build 48 of them until 2015, that means they're EXTREMELY weak.So your comment is actually anti-Russian...
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben BTW, you keep talking about how "cheap and reliable" Russian military tech is, but have you ever wondered why nobody has ever bought the SU-35? And there would've been no problem with this sine the aircraft really is cheap. About 35 mil per unit. So why has nobody bought this thing? The Russian alleged capability to produce cheap and reliable, but in the same time very capable weapons systems is just a myth, boy. Stop listening to everything Karlo Kopp says. He's extremely biased
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 Who the hell is Karlo Kopp and speaking of biased you been going on about your F-22 like its some kind of god or something. So don't attack me with hypocritical claims and have ever seen an F-22 perform in combat? If not then how could you be so fixated on it's abilities and maybe you should so much American Propaganda and actually look at the abilities of both planes and they perform before you start questioning other points of the Argument. and my comment before wasn't anti-Russian
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben "and have ever seen an F-22 perform in combat?" You haven't seen an Su-35 performing in combat either, yet you make all sort of statements on how good it would be... So don't accuse me of hypocrisy. I don't consider the F-22 any kind of "king of gods", but hey, if you assume the Su-35 is as good as the Russians claim, then I think it's fair to assume the F-22 is at least half as capable as it it advertised. And it would still be untouchable by your Su-35.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@ak4ben BTW, Karlo Kopp is an Australian military analyst. He wrote many papers against the F-35 and why that aircraft should not be adopted by Australia. In his works, he always praised the Russian Sukhoi fighters (like you) to prove the F-35 is not good against them. I'm surprised that you, an Australian haven't heard of him.
StiviGun1 1 month ago
@StiviGun1 I was just stating the majority of their technology is dirt cheap but performs to incredible heights in ability.
ak4ben 1 month ago
@ak4ben How do you know it performs so highly? Have you ever seen any of their platforms in combat? If I remember correctly, most of their platforms were always defeated in actual combat by western and in specially American platforms. One example is the MiG-29.
StiviGun1 1 month ago