@Kevo193 Yeah Brady really played like an MVP Sunday, didn't he? Idiot. The Patriots receivers had more yards after catch than the Packers receivers in the regular season so I guess the MVP on that team is Welker and Gronkowski. Brady won the MVP last season despite being one and done in the playoffs, so fuck off. Rodgers deserves it more than anyone else.
@GreenDay1981 He admitted he sucked and he did, doesnt mean he didnt lead the team. Gronk got injured, and Welker was pretty tightly covered. Who got the game winning score?? Thats right Tom Brady, he lead his team down the field against the ravens dirty defense and ran it in. Lmao without Nelson and Jennings rodgers is nothing. Even Flynn can play like an MVP with those receivers. Brady led the worst defense in NFL history to the superbowl, Tom Brady is the MVP, get the cheese out of your eyes
@Kevo193 Oh wow. A rushing touchdown from the 1/2 yard line that he had to jump over a pile to get. Real impressive. Even Cassel can lead the Patriots to an 11-win season. Your point? The Packers had a worse defense than the Patriots, numbnuts, yet Rodgers led them to a 14-1 record. Rodgers threw 5 TD passes against the Bears without Jennings. Funny how you use Gronkowski getting hurt as an excuse. I guess that means the Patriots receivers make Brady look good. Way to not help your case.
@GreenDay1981 Cassel is actually not bad, he did well with the Chiefs, of course not this year cause of all the injuries. But he didnt make the playoffs which is what matters.The packers have like the 14th i think ranked defense when it comes to scoring points!! And your calling them a bad defense?? Please! Bears suck also, their like 3 sacks and out because they cant protect Cutler. Gronk get injured and Welker has a quite game yet Brady still leads them to victory, something rodgers cant do.
@Kevo193 Actually the Packers were 19th in the NFL in points given up. Your Patriots were 15th so their defense was better in that area too. The Bears didn't suck when Cutler was playing. They were in the playoff race until Cutler got hurt and they don't have any decent backup QBs. That's why they faultered the last few games. The Patriots were handed that game by the Ravens's poor field goal management. If your D sucked as much as you say, you would have lost Sunday.
@GreenDay1981 Bears sucked early when they first played green bay dont lie to yourself. No the defense of NE sucked against the ravens, the dirty ravens lost because their dumbasses believe defense wins championships when its offense. they dont have a QB
@Kevo193 The first meeting was the 3rd game of the season, retard. That's too early to tell whether a team is good or they suck. The Bears were 7-3 before Cutler got hurt. 1-5 after he got hurt. Who's lying to themselves now?
@GreenDay1981 I don't care if anyone takes me seriously on the internet. When i have been saying all year Rodgers is a overated quarterback and all the Rodgers & Packer Fans were saying they were locked for the Superbowl no matter WHAT......then now most of those people DELETED their accounts and got new ones now....I know i have been too childish with the "hahas" and thinking that i hope it pisses them(ya'll Rodger lovers) off even more......
@RefillForever You are stupid for thinking Rodgers is overrated. If the Patriots D played like the Packers D did, the Patriots would lose too. You have no basis to call Rodgers overrated. Was Brady overrated last season when he was one and done? What about the year before? I'm sure you have some lame excuse for it. You usually do.
@Kevo193 Are you stupid? That's rhetorical. You've answered that with the comments you have left. You think only beating teams with 8-8 records or worse is anything to brag about? That's exactly what the Patriots did.
@RefillForever The Patriots got away with defensive holding when the Ravens had 3rd down on the Patriots's 14-yard-line with 22 seconds left. I suppose you just "happened" to miss that.
@RefillForever Like you never use excuses? You're the one who was clamoring that Rodgers shouldn't be MVP because he has so many weapons. Well, what did those "weapons" do in that playoff game besides drop 6 easy passes and fumble 3 times? Don't talk like Brady looked all that good yesterday either.
@GreenDay1981 I think Rodgers deserves the MVP stat wise by just looking at the numbers but he didn't play a top ten defense all year so them stats are miss leading to the eyes at first glance.....
While Tom Brady has just been on a mission to win and get better.at the same time. Brady did play bad but the Ravens defense was great in the secondary. The Patriots defense played pretty good too.......
@RefillForever Do you enjoy making stupid comments? Rodgers played better in his loss than Brady did yesterday. He rode the coat tails of his defense, which I seem to recall you saying is worse than the Packers's. Yeah you really knew what you were talking about there. So what if the Packers didn't play a top 10 defense. If they played the Dolphins, Browns, and Seahawks (who all have a top 10 defense), you would still bash the Packers cause those teams have losing records.
@RefillForever And Brady didn't defeat a team with a winning record in the regular season. Did you forget that little gem? Considering the Patriots only had, what, 3 losses with one of those being to the losing record Bills, you can hardly say anything about the teams Rodgers had to face. That means he only faced 2 teams with a winning record. Maybe it's HIS stats that are misleading. Oh, and the Packers did play a top 10 defense: the Eagles.
@GreenDay1981 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha When did ya'll play the Eagles this year?? Did you "Dream" about or something??? I will repeat myself THE PACKERS DIDN'T PLAY A TOP TEN DEFENSE THIS YEAR!!!!!!! Plus the Giants only won a game against winning record teams and that was the Patriots but..........
@RefillForever My mistake. I thought we played the Eagles this year. Must have been thinking of last season. Let me repeat myself. Brady didn't defeat a single team with a winning record during the regular season. Rodgers would make any defense look bad though. He's that damn good no matter what excuses you throw out there.
@GreenDay1981 Yup like i said the first half of the season they weren't done building to where they are now. The patriots didn't lose in the second half of the season like the Packers hahahahahahahaha thats when your supposed to be on your A game around Jan and Dec but the patriots are on a 10 game winning streak hahahahaha when you need to be winning right?? One and Done. Go chiefs!!!!! hahahahahahaha Didn't even play a top ten defense......hahahahahaha my side hurts i laugh soo much at you..
@RefillForever Do you expect anyone to take your seriously when a good bit of your comments are nothing but "haha"? Seriously, that's elementary school level. Anyway, use all the excuses you want. The Patriots didn't beat a team with a winning record the entire regular season. That's why they didn't lose. They played nobodies! Speaking of nobodies, you are one.
@GreenDay1981 ........the Patriots are done evolving they are complete.....If the patriots played the giants or the bills 2 times each in the early going of the season "yeah" they would have beat us all four times but we weren't "done", but they were "done evolving" hahaha you don't know much about the patriots....yeah i can tell....go listen to all of eric mangini's videos on ESPN first take and learn something about the Patriots on how they do things in a coaching standpoint
So it's the 10th anniversary of the "tuck rule" game, huh? It must suck for you Patriots fans being reminded that Brady's first Super Bowl was tainted by that horrible call. The Patriots should have been one and done that year. That bad call kept the Patriots alive when it should have been Raiders football and game over.
@GreenDay1981 It will do you no good hating on the Patriots when they are in the superbowl and your Packer team choked with some favorable calls for themselves in that one and done game but i already have discussed that so moving on.....
Lets talk about how Brady is in the Superbowl and Rodgers will be watching him hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
For anyone who thinks the Saints are a lock for the Super Bowl because of Brees, consider this. Brees has thrown 37 TDs and 8 INTs indoors. Outdoors, he has thrown 9 TDs and 6 INTs. A much worse ratio. If he hopes to get to the Super Bowl, chances are he will have to go up to Lambeau where he will play in temperatures he has yet to experience this season.
@GreenDay1981 Records don't mean s**t if you know anything about football. Every team plays different teams so you can't compare teams with records thats just fucking retarded in my opinion. Okay lets go at it. The Packers didn't play one defense in the top 10 period. But yall did lose against the 11th ranked defense in the league which was the chiefs with 14 points hahahahahahahahaha Brady played a top ten defense 4 times this year going 3-1 and smashed on the chiefs wack ass defense nasty.
@RefillForever Funny how you call the Chiefs defense "wack ass" for being 11th (actually they are 12th) but the Packers being 19th defensively is somehow good? Make up your mind. 19th in points given up, last in passing yards given up, 14th in rushing yards given up, last in total yards given up. Yeah sounds like Capers is doing a great job LOL!
@GreenDay1981 Last 2 games the patriots were down 17 against Miami and 21 points against the bills in the first quarters of the game to come back with the win. No quarterback in the league can do that with the worst defense in the league and don't aaron rodgers when he can't come back against the chiefs THE CHIEFS????? And don't say "well our defense sucks too" when yall have the most interceptions in the league as a team. yall got a previous defensive player of the year like 2 years back......
@RefillForever The sad thing is the Patriots shouldn't have been down AT ALL to the Dolphins and Bills much less by double digits. So because Brady didn't show up until the second half in both of those games, it makes him good? So what if we have the most interceptions? Interceptions are only a small part of the game. You need to pick an argument and stick with it. You play up our defense then make excuses for why they suck. Which is it? Do you think our defense is good or bad?
@0znEnzo Interceptions are a small part of the game itself. The Packers defense set the NFL record for most total yards given up in a season. Not a record you want your defense to have.
@RefillForever Not his fault he plays with a shitty secondary and his teammates drop easy passes and fumble. Could you have any bigger of a man-crush on Brady? Damn! I bet you search all over the internet trying to find shirtless pictures of him.
@GreenDay1981 First 15-1 team to go One and Done.....Like i said fuck the stats they don't mean shit.....Lets be grown up here and stop with the fag shit, i have a lil girl and a wife so i just like how he makes his teamates look good and play good at the same time......GreenBay choked get over it son......
@RefillForever Without the dropped passes, he goes 32 for 46 which is a damn good completion percentage so why don't you get off his fucking back? Rodgers is not the reason the Packers lost.
@GreenDay1981 What about the Ref calls??? Please don't get me started with the calls because that throws all them dropped passes out of the discussion for excuses.....Really??
@RefillForever I assume you are a Patriots fan, so I really don't think you want to be talking about getting favorable calls from the refs. Tuck rule anyone? Besides, did those calls decide the game? No. Quit bitching. The Giants got away with calls of their own so I don't want to hear it. What about the forearm to the helmet that James Jones took that the announcers said should have been flagged? He could have been seriously hurt and you're whining about a fumble.
@GreenDay1981 Get back to this year....... when the giants smashed on that ass in your stadium hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha man ONE AND DONE bitch
@RefillForever What's the matter? Still in denial and don't want to talk about it? Remember when your man-crush Brady was one-and-done last season and the year before? Though I bet you weren't even a Patriots fan then so you probably don't remember.
@GreenDay1981 Don't you remember when the packers got fucked up by the chiefs, trying to go undefeated hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and don't you remember getting fucked up in the playoffs hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@RefillForever I'll take that as a "yes, I'm still in denial". Do you remember when the Patriots got fucked up by the Bills and your man-crush threw 4 interceptions in the game? Who else lost to the Giants this season? Oh yeah, the PATRIOTS! It was in your stadium too. Remember getting fucked by them in your last Super Bowl appearance too?
@GreenDay1981 Yeah i remember those games so long ago but that was when the patriots weren't done building and evolving the team to what it is now.......I think if we played them twice in the first half of the season either the Giants or the Bills we would have lost both even if we were at home or not. But right now we are healthy than ever in the season......This team is alot more different then early in the season.......
@GreenDay1981 Which is Woodson then another great corner Williams he is pretty good himself who would be a starter for the pats if he played there. Those 2 players alone account more salary cap then all the pats secondary. I know losing Collins for the season hurt yall but the packers have 3 great secondary players in peprah woodson and williams who all have returned a int for a TD so they have produced 21 points with 3 secondary players......then yall have the Claymaker............
@RefillForever Oh, and you wanna talk about opponents? I read that the Patriots are the 9th team in NFL history to reach the playoffs without beating a single team with a winning record. Winning record teams are all the Patriots will face in the playoffs unless by some miracle they play the Broncos.
@GreenDay1981 Ya'll have one of the best defensive coaches in the game in Dom Capers who came from the Patriots much respect too him.......Bishop is decent.....Raji is very good pluggin up gaps.......there is an a excuse for the defense for the packers from going to the 5th best last year to the 2nd worst defense this year well yall did lose collins for the season.....you lost key players this year in free agency:jenkins diggs & barnett.....yall played alot of top 15 quarterbacks in the year...
@GreenDay1981 The patriots played more defensive teams they have no excuse , they were 32nd this year and the last year. They just fucking suck compared to green bay's defense, point blank, they can't stop shit........if you think different then your knowledge is real low.....Stop looking at stats.....Look at who they have played then look at the stats.....But i know one thing that no back-up on either the pats or saints could do what flynn did on their own respected teams........
@GreenDay1981 I think Tom Brady really deserves MVP more than anyone eles but stats say i'm wrong but still the Best Quarterback in the League by far with what he has period......Brady is the only thing close to Montana.......The Packers make Rodgers Great....Not Rodgers makes the Packers Great......Because They made Flynn Great....The Packers would be a beast with or without Rodgers right now........but i think brees or rodgers will get the mvp when it should be brady.
@RefillForever By that way of thinking, I guess Brady shouldn't have won the MVP in 2007 since Cassell did so well in 2008. You can't say the Packers would be near as good without Rodgers based on 1 game from Flynn. The Lions have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. That's why Flynn tore them apart. Not making excuses for him. Just saying that 1 game doesn't define a team's season. I bet Ryan Fitzpatrick looked impressive his first 5 games. Didn't end that way though.
@RefillForever You can't have it both ways. You say the Packers make Rodgers great because Flynn had 1 great game, yet you say nothing about how great Cassell did for an entire season replacing Brady. 1 game doesn't define a player. An entire season, on the other hand...
@RefillForever What difference does that make? They made the playoffs the following season doing 1 game worse at 10-6. 11-5 is a great record whether it gets a team to the playoffs or not.
Oh now its the Defense after only giving up 19 points??? Just like Rob said Aaron Rodgers is that GOOD, that the Defense can "take chances" blah blah KC is giving up an average 22.8 points on defense but Rodgers only got 14 points whata damn shame and they just fired their head coach prior man man man with Orton's first start for them too man trying for the perfect season hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Flynn performance showed that he can actually be good somewhere. Also, the fact that the Lions were game planned for Rodgers and not Flynn was also probably a factor. Their D sucks anyways so I don't think it would have mattered.
@packerfan7121992 You disappeared since the big LOSS in the playoffs....talking about how great Aaron Rodgers was??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@packerfan7121992 45 points without Rodgers hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and the Lions were healthier this time around hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Damn get off Rodgers dick and look at the big picture for once please.
If anybody should get the MVP from the Packers it has to be Greg Jennings because Rodgers sucked big donkey dick without him in the only game missed against KC........14 points hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, Pretty overated to me
@RefillForever umm first you act like hes perfect everyone has a bad game. No one said anythin when brady was losing leads to the bills and the giants and lost another game to a bad team. hop off his dick dude. the defense failed the team and let the chiefs score
@cameronCCL Hop off whose dick??? Jennings?? Because i didnt say anything about Brady, Greg Jennings is the MVP on the Packers dumb shit........Brady is the MVP on the Patriots and Brees is the MVP on the Saints but you dont see that because you look at stats not the big picture so hop off the dick of Rodgers........
@packerfan7121992 He had a great game against the Bears. I have nothing against Rodgers, i just think hes gets way too much credit when he gots all those weapons to use and all his wideouts get wide open, then theres that big killer TE Finley who is a mismatch with "ANY" linebacker in the league. I mean the whole Packers team is great even without Rodgers.....
@RefillForever yeah but Brees has Derren Sproles, marquis colston, and jimmie graham and brady has Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker, and deion branch, ill be honest... I would say those guys are pretty good weapons too but I'm all for Brady, he means more to his team
@packerfan7121992 Like i said The whole packers team is GREAT even without Rodgers......Then Matt Flynn proved my point by getting 6 touchdowns.....has Rodgers done that???? How about 480 passing yards for Rodgers???? Damn 45 points without Jennings and Rodgers???? Brees is my pick now with out a doubt for most valuable players for their team.<--------Period
@RefillForever Like anyone whose comment consist mostly of hahas has any credibility. Like Brees doesn't get too much credit? So he broke Marino's passing yard record. La-de-dah. He's also thrown the ball 657 times, which is 155 more than Rodgers did. Brees didn't look very valuable against the Buccaneers and Rams. Just because Brees is too selfish to sit out a meaningless game like Rodgers did doesn't make him MVP. Rodgers deserves the MVP.
@GreenDay1981 Like anyone with name consist with green_ay has any credibility with this subject. He wanted that record for the Team buddy......Rodgers is the 6th most sacked quarterback in the league while brees is the 23rd........Brees is the most accurate quarterback i have seen this year with tight windows in coverage period......
@RefillForever Brees has 14 interceptions. What does number of sacks have to do with anything? The fact that Rodgers has been sacked more yet has only thrown 6 interceptions compared to Brees's 14 says a lot. If he is so much more accurate than Rodgers, why does he have more than twice as many interceptions? Hmm? Just saying that Tebow should be in the MVP talks makes you a joke. Seriously? Tebow an MVP? You are smoking crack!
@GreenDay1981 I wasn't being serious with tebow or calvin..........but Brees and Brady for sure......like skip said i want to see Rodgers with the ball down 4 points and win it...well he got his chance against the chiefs down 5 points......
@RefillForever Against the Chiefs, he scored a rushing TD to put them within 5 points. They failed to recover the onside and the defense couldn't make a stop for them to get the ball back. So no, he didn't get a chance.
@packerfan7121992 So i guess it could have been the Coach? Defense? and Special Teams? Nahhh but not Rodgers, he didn't choke at all i guess with 14 points to show for in a game that meant alot to him and the whole team including coaches to go undefeated? Man i could see the Ravens roll on ya'll. Houston if they had Matt Schaub. The Cowboys. The Steelers. The Patriots and maybe the 49ers. The Saints will destroy ya'll in the playoffs. That team makes Rodgers look good plain and simple..
@RefillForever You idiot. Rodgers doesn't need to be down by anything in the closing minutes of the 4th to prove himself. His performance this season has been nearly flawless. His lowest rating this season was 80.1. Brees had 2 games with a lower rating than that and Brady had 1. The Packers are 15-1 despite having one of the worst defenses in the NFL. That is thanks to Rodgers. You can talk about Flynn's start all you want. 1 game doesn't define a player.
@RefillForever Using the "most valuable to their team" argument, Peyton Manning is clearly MVP because the Colts sucked without him Or maybe Jay Cutler because the Bears sucked after he got injured. Please
Matt Flynn has ONE good game, ONE, and everyone overreacts and it suddenly diminishes what Rodgers did all season? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It could be an indicator that Flynn is actually GOOD and can have success someone else.
@packerfan7121992 I agree with you on Peyton Manning he is a very Valuable player for the colts but lets be real they won't give it to him, you know it and i know it so lets move on because he hasn't played one snap. Cutler no but he has no weapons really to be honest except for Forte so i give him props but still no chance. Tim Tebow should be in the talks but nope. Calvin Johnson maybe?? Jared Allen but the team record 3-13?? Brees broke the record and has 46 touchdowns 11 ints
@cameronCCL they didn't let the chiefs score, they only scored 19 points...the best qb in the league should be able to score more than that against a team below .500
For those that say Aaron Rodgers stats only are because of his weapons- All of his weapons are all drafted past the first round- EVERY team including the patriots had a chance to draft every player the Packers have. As for their Schedule- They've played the #1 and #2 seed from last year on the road, The super bowl champs from 2 years ago, but suddenly they''ve played no one?
Rodgers will get the MVP, but people don't understand the term MVP!!!! The MVP is the guy who is most important to his team. Because without the most important guy on the team, that team would lose. If rodgers sat out for the next 4 games,packers could still go undefeated cus they have weapons like finley,jennings,nelson,matthews,woodson, and cobb. Without brady the pats would have as many wins as the colts have. 000! Plain and simple. Sometimes logic speaks louder than stats.
@AsianMogul12 So, using your logic then Peyton Manning should be the MVP. Also, why did Tom Brady win the MVP in 2007 when he was putting up insane numbers? Are you saying that the 2007 Patriots would not of had a winning season without Tom Brady? Then in the 2008 season when Brady was down the Patriots still managed to win 11 games. Please explain your logic before professing to be a genius. lmao
@ronpaul101789 You are obviously an idiot if you think i'm implying that peyton manning should be the mvp. The man hasn't played a down of football this year so how can he possibly get i? I'm just saying that Tom brady has a case for the mvp because he can do so much with so little. How he can still to win games with no defense. And the patriots had a 11 game winning season in 2008 because they had a good defense and a future pro bowl qb. And i never professed to be a genius. ignorant ho. Lmao.
@AsianMogul12 You defined an MVP as "The MVP is the guy who is most important to his team. Because without the most important guy on the team, that team would lose." Wouldn't it stand to reason that Peyton Manning should get it because of the Colts current record. They were 10-6 last year. That is if we are using your logic. The Patriots of 08 were 8th in league in points scored at 410...still pretty damn good for having Matt Cassel at the helm.
ps take brady farve rodgers thiesman unitis MARINO was the best pure passer to ever play in the nfl no offensive line no defence at all no running game lol the other teams knew what marino was gonna do.....pass every week and he still passed 4 400 yds 3 t d s every game put marino on the 49ers in the 80 s or the patriots now hede win 5 super bowls marino had duper and clayton that was his whole teamnever had a running game played hurt every game taped up dan the man is the best of all time
skips one of those morons you cant talk sports with without wanting to strangle his ass says one thing 1 week and the total opposite the next if this was skips boy friend brett farve having this year rodgers is having maybee going undefeated hede be creaming in his pants this guy cant be real espn has 2 pay this guy to be hated so muchits his gig 2 want poeple 2 dislike him he sure the fk dont know shit about sports
Skip is eating his own words now, assuming he watched the Packers-Giants game. That last drive took Rodgers what? 58 seconds to drive it down the field in four plays.
@jag18203 hes a sports hipster. he cant say "i liked him before it was cool", because hes on camera saying he never liked him. now aaron rodgers is too mainstream. i think he just gets paid to like tebow and brady
Suck on that one Skip Bayless! How's that for a signature "Aaron Rodgers victory"? Still think Brady is so much better than Rodgers, and that he deserves MVP?
Skip is only on this show for the devil's advocate side of the argument. A debate show where everyone agrees with everyone would be boring to watch, they need two sides to the argument. Skip provides that. Either that or he is nothing more than a troll just to piss people off.
I hate Rob Parker nearly as much as I hate Skip Bayless! I haven't watched First and Ten in more than 2 years! Why do football analysts suck at their profession? Almost as baffling as the piss poor officiating of the league!
I agreee that aaron is playing at a high level but skip makes a point the packers didnt really anybody nd besides he has some weapons on his team that brady doesnt have... just a thought if brady had aaron's team nd aaron has brady's team who would really have the better team or the better year
@GBPackersPRIDE Unless Aaron's team starts losing, all of a sudden...Then, he wouldn't be a LOCK and they would give it to Brady again. What the fuck does Peyton Manning have to do with anything? They're not going to slight Aaron and Brady and give his ass an MVP when he didn't even play this year.
maybe best offensive award you could throw bradys name in the convo but he'd lose that too to rodgers right now... as far as mvp goes, hes behind rodgers... and hell even manning... how can one man that takes a team to the best record in a decade... he misses one season and they go 0-11... cmon... he is there you know colts are 10-6 or better... thats an mvp...
they need to redefine the award... most valuable means most valuable to their team... brady got replaced by cassel and pats still went 11-5... manning isnt around and colts are 0-11 would they even be close to that with manning no... and rodgers not on green bay im sure would not be close to 11-0... and as for brady... im pretty sure mallett could step in and have them a winning record... that one guy doesnt even know what the hell he is saying...
skip bayless is an idiot, did he see the bucs game? bucs were only down by two points in that game, and had all the momentum, and what does rodgers do? he throws a TD to put away the game. lions were starting to get momentum and were pushing a comeback in the thanksgiving game. what does rodgers do? he keeps the ball for 5 minutes and gets the packers in FG range. being clutch isnt ONLY making 4th quarter comebacks, its also being able to play at a high level when the other team has momentum.
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The Patriots didn't beat ONE team with a winning record in the reg season. END OF DISCUSSION.
JLyons043 1 week ago
The Patriots didn't beat ONE team with a winning record in the reg season. END OF DISCUSSION.
JLyons043 1 week ago
Rob (Packer) Parker's worst nightmare: Eric Mangini.
monotonesarcasm 3 weeks ago
Where is Aaron Rodgers?
monotonesarcasm 1 month ago
Brady is MVP end of story, rodgers isnt even the mvp on his team, that title belongs to Jennings and Nelson
Kevo193 1 month ago
@Kevo193 Yeah Brady really played like an MVP Sunday, didn't he? Idiot. The Patriots receivers had more yards after catch than the Packers receivers in the regular season so I guess the MVP on that team is Welker and Gronkowski. Brady won the MVP last season despite being one and done in the playoffs, so fuck off. Rodgers deserves it more than anyone else.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 He admitted he sucked and he did, doesnt mean he didnt lead the team. Gronk got injured, and Welker was pretty tightly covered. Who got the game winning score?? Thats right Tom Brady, he lead his team down the field against the ravens dirty defense and ran it in. Lmao without Nelson and Jennings rodgers is nothing. Even Flynn can play like an MVP with those receivers. Brady led the worst defense in NFL history to the superbowl, Tom Brady is the MVP, get the cheese out of your eyes
Kevo193 1 month ago
@Kevo193 Oh wow. A rushing touchdown from the 1/2 yard line that he had to jump over a pile to get. Real impressive. Even Cassel can lead the Patriots to an 11-win season. Your point? The Packers had a worse defense than the Patriots, numbnuts, yet Rodgers led them to a 14-1 record. Rodgers threw 5 TD passes against the Bears without Jennings. Funny how you use Gronkowski getting hurt as an excuse. I guess that means the Patriots receivers make Brady look good. Way to not help your case.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Cassel is actually not bad, he did well with the Chiefs, of course not this year cause of all the injuries. But he didnt make the playoffs which is what matters.The packers have like the 14th i think ranked defense when it comes to scoring points!! And your calling them a bad defense?? Please! Bears suck also, their like 3 sacks and out because they cant protect Cutler. Gronk get injured and Welker has a quite game yet Brady still leads them to victory, something rodgers cant do.
Kevo193 1 month ago
@Kevo193 Actually the Packers were 19th in the NFL in points given up. Your Patriots were 15th so their defense was better in that area too. The Bears didn't suck when Cutler was playing. They were in the playoff race until Cutler got hurt and they don't have any decent backup QBs. That's why they faultered the last few games. The Patriots were handed that game by the Ravens's poor field goal management. If your D sucked as much as you say, you would have lost Sunday.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Bears sucked early when they first played green bay dont lie to yourself. No the defense of NE sucked against the ravens, the dirty ravens lost because their dumbasses believe defense wins championships when its offense. they dont have a QB
Kevo193 1 month ago
@Kevo193 The first meeting was the 3rd game of the season, retard. That's too early to tell whether a team is good or they suck. The Bears were 7-3 before Cutler got hurt. 1-5 after he got hurt. Who's lying to themselves now?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 I don't care if anyone takes me seriously on the internet. When i have been saying all year Rodgers is a overated quarterback and all the Rodgers & Packer Fans were saying they were locked for the Superbowl no matter WHAT......then now most of those people DELETED their accounts and got new ones now....I know i have been too childish with the "hahas" and thinking that i hope it pisses them(ya'll Rodger lovers) off even more......
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever You are stupid for thinking Rodgers is overrated. If the Patriots D played like the Packers D did, the Patriots would lose too. You have no basis to call Rodgers overrated. Was Brady overrated last season when he was one and done? What about the year before? I'm sure you have some lame excuse for it. You usually do.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 The bears were terrible at the start are you blind?? and in the end when they were injured so beating them is nothing to brag about.
Kevo193 1 month ago
@Kevo193 Are you stupid? That's rhetorical. You've answered that with the comments you have left. You think only beating teams with 8-8 records or worse is anything to brag about? That's exactly what the Patriots did.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@ImAboutSports I loved all those years.....thanks for reminding me.....
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever The Patriots got away with defensive holding when the Ravens had 3rd down on the Patriots's 14-yard-line with 22 seconds left. I suppose you just "happened" to miss that.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Excuses excuses damn
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Like you never use excuses? You're the one who was clamoring that Rodgers shouldn't be MVP because he has so many weapons. Well, what did those "weapons" do in that playoff game besides drop 6 easy passes and fumble 3 times? Don't talk like Brady looked all that good yesterday either.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Should have let Matt Flynn start in the playoffs looks like he knows how to use them weapons hahahaha.....
Who won against the 3rd best defense at the end of the game???
Who has a 50% chance of winning it all??? Not the Packers!!!!
RefillForever 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 I think Rodgers deserves the MVP stat wise by just looking at the numbers but he didn't play a top ten defense all year so them stats are miss leading to the eyes at first glance.....
While Tom Brady has just been on a mission to win and get better.at the same time. Brady did play bad but the Ravens defense was great in the secondary. The Patriots defense played pretty good too.......
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Do you enjoy making stupid comments? Rodgers played better in his loss than Brady did yesterday. He rode the coat tails of his defense, which I seem to recall you saying is worse than the Packers's. Yeah you really knew what you were talking about there. So what if the Packers didn't play a top 10 defense. If they played the Dolphins, Browns, and Seahawks (who all have a top 10 defense), you would still bash the Packers cause those teams have losing records.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@RefillForever And Brady didn't defeat a team with a winning record in the regular season. Did you forget that little gem? Considering the Patriots only had, what, 3 losses with one of those being to the losing record Bills, you can hardly say anything about the teams Rodgers had to face. That means he only faced 2 teams with a winning record. Maybe it's HIS stats that are misleading. Oh, and the Packers did play a top 10 defense: the Eagles.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha When did ya'll play the Eagles this year?? Did you "Dream" about or something??? I will repeat myself THE PACKERS DIDN'T PLAY A TOP TEN DEFENSE THIS YEAR!!!!!!! Plus the Giants only won a game against winning record teams and that was the Patriots but..........
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever My mistake. I thought we played the Eagles this year. Must have been thinking of last season. Let me repeat myself. Brady didn't defeat a single team with a winning record during the regular season. Rodgers would make any defense look bad though. He's that damn good no matter what excuses you throw out there.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 He made them chiefs defense look real good hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Brady made the Bills defense look real good.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Yup like i said the first half of the season they weren't done building to where they are now. The patriots didn't lose in the second half of the season like the Packers hahahahahahahaha thats when your supposed to be on your A game around Jan and Dec but the patriots are on a 10 game winning streak hahahahaha when you need to be winning right?? One and Done. Go chiefs!!!!! hahahahahahaha Didn't even play a top ten defense......hahahahahaha my side hurts i laugh soo much at you..
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Do you expect anyone to take your seriously when a good bit of your comments are nothing but "haha"? Seriously, that's elementary school level. Anyway, use all the excuses you want. The Patriots didn't beat a team with a winning record the entire regular season. That's why they didn't lose. They played nobodies! Speaking of nobodies, you are one.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
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@GreenDay1981 ........the Patriots are done evolving they are complete.....If the patriots played the giants or the bills 2 times each in the early going of the season "yeah" they would have beat us all four times but we weren't "done", but they were "done evolving" hahaha you don't know much about the patriots....yeah i can tell....go listen to all of eric mangini's videos on ESPN first take and learn something about the Patriots on how they do things in a coaching standpoint
RefillForever 1 month ago
So it's the 10th anniversary of the "tuck rule" game, huh? It must suck for you Patriots fans being reminded that Brady's first Super Bowl was tainted by that horrible call. The Patriots should have been one and done that year. That bad call kept the Patriots alive when it should have been Raiders football and game over.
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@GreenDay1981 It will do you no good hating on the Patriots when they are in the superbowl and your Packer team choked with some favorable calls for themselves in that one and done game but i already have discussed that so moving on.....
Lets talk about how Brady is in the Superbowl and Rodgers will be watching him hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
I guess your in denial....
RefillForever 1 month ago
Hey Rob after you finish sucking Rodgers dick please watch Tom Brady in the AFC championship game.........
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@GreenDay1981 Cassell didn't throw no 6 tds and 480yards in a game ever out of a whole season with Moss & Welker..???????
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RefillForever 2 months ago
For anyone who thinks the Saints are a lock for the Super Bowl because of Brees, consider this. Brees has thrown 37 TDs and 8 INTs indoors. Outdoors, he has thrown 9 TDs and 6 INTs. A much worse ratio. If he hopes to get to the Super Bowl, chances are he will have to go up to Lambeau where he will play in temperatures he has yet to experience this season.
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 Records don't mean s**t if you know anything about football. Every team plays different teams so you can't compare teams with records thats just fucking retarded in my opinion. Okay lets go at it. The Packers didn't play one defense in the top 10 period. But yall did lose against the 11th ranked defense in the league which was the chiefs with 14 points hahahahahahahahaha Brady played a top ten defense 4 times this year going 3-1 and smashed on the chiefs wack ass defense nasty.
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Funny how you call the Chiefs defense "wack ass" for being 11th (actually they are 12th) but the Packers being 19th defensively is somehow good? Make up your mind. 19th in points given up, last in passing yards given up, 14th in rushing yards given up, last in total yards given up. Yeah sounds like Capers is doing a great job LOL!
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 Last 2 games the patriots were down 17 against Miami and 21 points against the bills in the first quarters of the game to come back with the win. No quarterback in the league can do that with the worst defense in the league and don't aaron rodgers when he can't come back against the chiefs THE CHIEFS????? And don't say "well our defense sucks too" when yall have the most interceptions in the league as a team. yall got a previous defensive player of the year like 2 years back......
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever The sad thing is the Patriots shouldn't have been down AT ALL to the Dolphins and Bills much less by double digits. So because Brady didn't show up until the second half in both of those games, it makes him good? So what if we have the most interceptions? Interceptions are only a small part of the game. You need to pick an argument and stick with it. You play up our defense then make excuses for why they suck. Which is it? Do you think our defense is good or bad?
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 The packers defense is way better than what their rank says they are by far...
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Explain yourself. How is the Packers defense better than what their rank says?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 They had 31 interceptions during the regular season, almost 2 per game.... no other team came even close.
0znEnzo 1 month ago
@0znEnzo Interceptions are a small part of the game itself. The Packers defense set the NFL record for most total yards given up in a season. Not a record you want your defense to have.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
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RefillForever 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Aaron Rodgers went one and done?? Now Explain Yourself???
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Not his fault he plays with a shitty secondary and his teammates drop easy passes and fumble. Could you have any bigger of a man-crush on Brady? Damn! I bet you search all over the internet trying to find shirtless pictures of him.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 First 15-1 team to go One and Done.....Like i said fuck the stats they don't mean shit.....Lets be grown up here and stop with the fag shit, i have a lil girl and a wife so i just like how he makes his teamates look good and play good at the same time......GreenBay choked get over it son......
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Yeah because those 6 dropped passes were all Rodgers's fault, right?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 6 drops out of how many pass attempts 46 just Stop with the excuses big baby....
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever Without the dropped passes, he goes 32 for 46 which is a damn good completion percentage so why don't you get off his fucking back? Rodgers is not the reason the Packers lost.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 What about the Ref calls??? Please don't get me started with the calls because that throws all them dropped passes out of the discussion for excuses.....Really??
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever I assume you are a Patriots fan, so I really don't think you want to be talking about getting favorable calls from the refs. Tuck rule anyone? Besides, did those calls decide the game? No. Quit bitching. The Giants got away with calls of their own so I don't want to hear it. What about the forearm to the helmet that James Jones took that the announcers said should have been flagged? He could have been seriously hurt and you're whining about a fumble.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Get back to this year....... when the giants smashed on that ass in your stadium hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha man ONE AND DONE bitch
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever What's the matter? Still in denial and don't want to talk about it? Remember when your man-crush Brady was one-and-done last season and the year before? Though I bet you weren't even a Patriots fan then so you probably don't remember.
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Don't you remember when the packers got fucked up by the chiefs, trying to go undefeated hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and don't you remember getting fucked up in the playoffs hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RefillForever 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 All in like 2 months hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever I'll take that as a "yes, I'm still in denial". Do you remember when the Patriots got fucked up by the Bills and your man-crush threw 4 interceptions in the game? Who else lost to the Giants this season? Oh yeah, the PATRIOTS! It was in your stadium too. Remember getting fucked by them in your last Super Bowl appearance too?
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
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@GreenDay1981 Yeah i remember those games so long ago but that was when the patriots weren't done building and evolving the team to what it is now.......I think if we played them twice in the first half of the season either the Giants or the Bills we would have lost both even if we were at home or not. But right now we are healthy than ever in the season......This team is alot more different then early in the season.......
RefillForever 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Which is Woodson then another great corner Williams he is pretty good himself who would be a starter for the pats if he played there. Those 2 players alone account more salary cap then all the pats secondary. I know losing Collins for the season hurt yall but the packers have 3 great secondary players in peprah woodson and williams who all have returned a int for a TD so they have produced 21 points with 3 secondary players......then yall have the Claymaker............
RefillForever 2 months ago
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RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Oh, and you wanna talk about opponents? I read that the Patriots are the 9th team in NFL history to reach the playoffs without beating a single team with a winning record. Winning record teams are all the Patriots will face in the playoffs unless by some miracle they play the Broncos.
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
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@GreenDay1981 Ya'll have one of the best defensive coaches in the game in Dom Capers who came from the Patriots much respect too him.......Bishop is decent.....Raji is very good pluggin up gaps.......there is an a excuse for the defense for the packers from going to the 5th best last year to the 2nd worst defense this year well yall did lose collins for the season.....you lost key players this year in free agency:jenkins diggs & barnett.....yall played alot of top 15 quarterbacks in the year...
RefillForever 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 The patriots played more defensive teams they have no excuse , they were 32nd this year and the last year. They just fucking suck compared to green bay's defense, point blank, they can't stop shit........if you think different then your knowledge is real low.....Stop looking at stats.....Look at who they have played then look at the stats.....But i know one thing that no back-up on either the pats or saints could do what flynn did on their own respected teams........
RefillForever 2 months ago
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RefillForever 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 I think Tom Brady really deserves MVP more than anyone eles but stats say i'm wrong but still the Best Quarterback in the League by far with what he has period......Brady is the only thing close to Montana.......The Packers make Rodgers Great....Not Rodgers makes the Packers Great......Because They made Flynn Great....The Packers would be a beast with or without Rodgers right now........but i think brees or rodgers will get the mvp when it should be brady.
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever By that way of thinking, I guess Brady shouldn't have won the MVP in 2007 since Cassell did so well in 2008. You can't say the Packers would be near as good without Rodgers based on 1 game from Flynn. The Lions have one of the worst secondaries in the NFL. That's why Flynn tore them apart. Not making excuses for him. Just saying that 1 game doesn't define a team's season. I bet Ryan Fitzpatrick looked impressive his first 5 games. Didn't end that way though.
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 Ryan got paid after that 5 week enough said
RefillForever 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 What does 08 have to do with 07 does are 2 different years and teams
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever You can't have it both ways. You say the Packers make Rodgers great because Flynn had 1 great game, yet you say nothing about how great Cassell did for an entire season replacing Brady. 1 game doesn't define a player. An entire season, on the other hand...
GreenDay1981 1 month ago
@GreenDay1981 Did they make the playoffs that year?
RefillForever 1 month ago
@RefillForever What difference does that make? They made the playoffs the following season doing 1 game worse at 10-6. 11-5 is a great record whether it gets a team to the playoffs or not.
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Oh now its the Defense after only giving up 19 points??? Just like Rob said Aaron Rodgers is that GOOD, that the Defense can "take chances" blah blah KC is giving up an average 22.8 points on defense but Rodgers only got 14 points whata damn shame and they just fired their head coach prior man man man with Orton's first start for them too man trying for the perfect season hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RefillForever 2 months ago
Flynn performance showed that he can actually be good somewhere. Also, the fact that the Lions were game planned for Rodgers and not Flynn was also probably a factor. Their D sucks anyways so I don't think it would have mattered.
packerfan7121992 2 months ago
@packerfan7121992 You disappeared since the big LOSS in the playoffs....talking about how great Aaron Rodgers was??? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
RefillForever 1 month ago
what a f-in dbag
dreilly52 2 months ago
is there a video for skip's reaction after the giants packers game?
cup950003 2 months ago
I stopped at 2:48 how is dis muthafucka still employed dis is the same guy who dickrides Tebow
SkinnyKnicca 2 months ago
35 points against a good Bears defense without Jennings. Is Jennings still MVP of the Packers? Hmmm. One off game and everyone overreacts.
packerfan7121992 2 months ago
@packerfan7121992 45 points without Rodgers hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and the Lions were healthier this time around hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Damn get off Rodgers dick and look at the big picture for once please.
RefillForever 2 months ago
14 points*
RefillForever 2 months ago
Brees or Jennings for MVP take your pick........they are the Most Valuable Players on their teams.<--------Period
RefillForever 2 months ago
If anybody should get the MVP from the Packers it has to be Greg Jennings because Rodgers sucked big donkey dick without him in the only game missed against KC........14 points hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, Pretty overated to me
RefillForever 2 months ago
Bayless always will hate the Packers! No matter who's playing. That's a fact!!!
pmurphy5657 2 months ago
Brady > Rodgers
dylanswitch 2 months ago
@dylanswitch good 1
RaysWin58 2 months ago
I'm a Brady fan, but RODGERS FOR MVP
katkoot71 2 months ago
Aaron Rodgers has never failed at Skip's comeback situation. Brady has failed 3 times....
tcsteelers26 2 months ago
@tcsteelers26 He failed nasty against KC hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever umm first you act like hes perfect everyone has a bad game. No one said anythin when brady was losing leads to the bills and the giants and lost another game to a bad team. hop off his dick dude. the defense failed the team and let the chiefs score
cameronCCL 2 months ago
@cameronCCL Hop off whose dick??? Jennings?? Because i didnt say anything about Brady, Greg Jennings is the MVP on the Packers dumb shit........Brady is the MVP on the Patriots and Brees is the MVP on the Saints but you dont see that because you look at stats not the big picture so hop off the dick of Rodgers........
RefillForever 2 months ago 2
@RefillForever Is Jennings still MVP? Packers put 35 points against a good Bears defense without Jennings. One off game and everyone overreacts
packerfan7121992 2 months ago
@packerfan7121992 He had a great game against the Bears. I have nothing against Rodgers, i just think hes gets way too much credit when he gots all those weapons to use and all his wideouts get wide open, then theres that big killer TE Finley who is a mismatch with "ANY" linebacker in the league. I mean the whole Packers team is great even without Rodgers.....
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever yeah but Brees has Derren Sproles, marquis colston, and jimmie graham and brady has Rob Gronkowski, Wes Welker, and deion branch, ill be honest... I would say those guys are pretty good weapons too but I'm all for Brady, he means more to his team
mpslacrosse8 2 months ago
@packerfan7121992 Like i said The whole packers team is GREAT even without Rodgers......Then Matt Flynn proved my point by getting 6 touchdowns.....has Rodgers done that???? How about 480 passing yards for Rodgers???? Damn 45 points without Jennings and Rodgers???? Brees is my pick now with out a doubt for most valuable players for their team.<--------Period
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Like anyone whose comment consist mostly of hahas has any credibility. Like Brees doesn't get too much credit? So he broke Marino's passing yard record. La-de-dah. He's also thrown the ball 657 times, which is 155 more than Rodgers did. Brees didn't look very valuable against the Buccaneers and Rams. Just because Brees is too selfish to sit out a meaningless game like Rodgers did doesn't make him MVP. Rodgers deserves the MVP.
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 Like anyone with name consist with green_ay has any credibility with this subject. He wanted that record for the Team buddy......Rodgers is the 6th most sacked quarterback in the league while brees is the 23rd........Brees is the most accurate quarterback i have seen this year with tight windows in coverage period......
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Brees has 14 interceptions. What does number of sacks have to do with anything? The fact that Rodgers has been sacked more yet has only thrown 6 interceptions compared to Brees's 14 says a lot. If he is so much more accurate than Rodgers, why does he have more than twice as many interceptions? Hmm? Just saying that Tebow should be in the MVP talks makes you a joke. Seriously? Tebow an MVP? You are smoking crack!
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@GreenDay1981 I wasn't being serious with tebow or calvin..........but Brees and Brady for sure......like skip said i want to see Rodgers with the ball down 4 points and win it...well he got his chance against the chiefs down 5 points......
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever Against the Chiefs, he scored a rushing TD to put them within 5 points. They failed to recover the onside and the defense couldn't make a stop for them to get the ball back. So no, he didn't get a chance.
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@packerfan7121992 So i guess it could have been the Coach? Defense? and Special Teams? Nahhh but not Rodgers, he didn't choke at all i guess with 14 points to show for in a game that meant alot to him and the whole team including coaches to go undefeated? Man i could see the Ravens roll on ya'll. Houston if they had Matt Schaub. The Cowboys. The Steelers. The Patriots and maybe the 49ers. The Saints will destroy ya'll in the playoffs. That team makes Rodgers look good plain and simple..
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@RefillForever You idiot. Rodgers doesn't need to be down by anything in the closing minutes of the 4th to prove himself. His performance this season has been nearly flawless. His lowest rating this season was 80.1. Brees had 2 games with a lower rating than that and Brady had 1. The Packers are 15-1 despite having one of the worst defenses in the NFL. That is thanks to Rodgers. You can talk about Flynn's start all you want. 1 game doesn't define a player.
GreenDay1981 2 months ago
@RefillForever Using the "most valuable to their team" argument, Peyton Manning is clearly MVP because the Colts sucked without him Or maybe Jay Cutler because the Bears sucked after he got injured. Please
Matt Flynn has ONE good game, ONE, and everyone overreacts and it suddenly diminishes what Rodgers did all season? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. It could be an indicator that Flynn is actually GOOD and can have success someone else.
packerfan7121992 2 months ago
@packerfan7121992 I agree with you on Peyton Manning he is a very Valuable player for the colts but lets be real they won't give it to him, you know it and i know it so lets move on because he hasn't played one snap. Cutler no but he has no weapons really to be honest except for Forte so i give him props but still no chance. Tim Tebow should be in the talks but nope. Calvin Johnson maybe?? Jared Allen but the team record 3-13?? Brees broke the record and has 46 touchdowns 11 ints
RefillForever 2 months ago
@cameronCCL they didn't let the chiefs score, they only scored 19 points...the best qb in the league should be able to score more than that against a team below .500
Sully12BB 2 months ago
"Just Once I want to see him down with the ball with less than 2 minutes left"
The same week it was tied.... Ball on the ONE... only a mere FORTY seconds on the clock...
And he drives it to the 20. Suck Skip
Rajonrayray 2 months ago
All I hear is 3 fucktards bickering at each other.
madog1991 3 months ago
For those that say Aaron Rodgers stats only are because of his weapons- All of his weapons are all drafted past the first round- EVERY team including the patriots had a chance to draft every player the Packers have. As for their Schedule- They've played the #1 and #2 seed from last year on the road, The super bowl champs from 2 years ago, but suddenly they''ve played no one?
Cocchaos 3 months ago
Rodgers will get the MVP, but people don't understand the term MVP!!!! The MVP is the guy who is most important to his team. Because without the most important guy on the team, that team would lose. If rodgers sat out for the next 4 games,packers could still go undefeated cus they have weapons like finley,jennings,nelson,matthews,woodson, and cobb. Without brady the pats would have as many wins as the colts have. 000! Plain and simple. Sometimes logic speaks louder than stats.
AsianMogul12 3 months ago
@AsianMogul12 I remember that was said when Matt Cassel took over for Tom Brady and he got them 11 wins that year.
Cocchaos 3 months ago
@Cocchaos Yeah 11 wins with a top ten ranked defense.
AsianMogul12 3 months ago
@Cocchaos and they didnt make the playoffs.
AsianMogul12 3 months ago
@AsianMogul12 So, using your logic then Peyton Manning should be the MVP. Also, why did Tom Brady win the MVP in 2007 when he was putting up insane numbers? Are you saying that the 2007 Patriots would not of had a winning season without Tom Brady? Then in the 2008 season when Brady was down the Patriots still managed to win 11 games. Please explain your logic before professing to be a genius. lmao
ronpaul101789 3 months ago
@ronpaul101789 You are obviously an idiot if you think i'm implying that peyton manning should be the mvp. The man hasn't played a down of football this year so how can he possibly get i? I'm just saying that Tom brady has a case for the mvp because he can do so much with so little. How he can still to win games with no defense. And the patriots had a 11 game winning season in 2008 because they had a good defense and a future pro bowl qb. And i never professed to be a genius. ignorant ho. Lmao.
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@AsianMogul12 You defined an MVP as "The MVP is the guy who is most important to his team. Because without the most important guy on the team, that team would lose." Wouldn't it stand to reason that Peyton Manning should get it because of the Colts current record. They were 10-6 last year. That is if we are using your logic. The Patriots of 08 were 8th in league in points scored at 410...still pretty damn good for having Matt Cassel at the helm.
ronpaul101789 3 months ago
@AsianMogul12 Also, the reason that Cassel was in the pro bowl was because Brady had hurt his foot.
ronpaul101789 3 months ago
@AsianMogul12 yea but brady has made more mistakes than rodgers dude imma pats fan but to be legit aaron rod wins he MVP
seanman70 2 months ago
@seanman70 No greg jenning wins hes the real leader and most valuable player on that teams....
RefillForever 2 months ago
@RefillForever pretty sure it was the defense that costed them the win
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jay cutler should be mvp, wait sorry, im smoking crack.. haha
andylangenbach 3 months ago
ps take brady farve rodgers thiesman unitis MARINO was the best pure passer to ever play in the nfl no offensive line no defence at all no running game lol the other teams knew what marino was gonna do.....pass every week and he still passed 4 400 yds 3 t d s every game put marino on the 49ers in the 80 s or the patriots now hede win 5 super bowls marino had duper and clayton that was his whole teamnever had a running game played hurt every game taped up dan the man is the best of all time
LukeTheDrifter07 3 months ago
skips one of those morons you cant talk sports with without wanting to strangle his ass says one thing 1 week and the total opposite the next if this was skips boy friend brett farve having this year rodgers is having maybee going undefeated hede be creaming in his pants this guy cant be real espn has 2 pay this guy to be hated so muchits his gig 2 want poeple 2 dislike him he sure the fk dont know shit about sports
LukeTheDrifter07 3 months ago
why is he such a piece of shit?
mhummel6339 3 months ago
Skip is eating his own words now, assuming he watched the Packers-Giants game. That last drive took Rodgers what? 58 seconds to drive it down the field in four plays.
Packer1225 3 months ago
Why is this "Cadaveric" looking imbecile even have a job? ESPN has the stupidest morons working for them...Skip Bayless, Trent Dilfer, etc. etc....
TheGuason14 3 months ago
Can't get why Skip is such a Rodgers hater...anybody got the answer PLEASE share!
jag18203 3 months ago
@jag18203 hes a sports hipster. he cant say "i liked him before it was cool", because hes on camera saying he never liked him. now aaron rodgers is too mainstream. i think he just gets paid to like tebow and brady
JDev82 3 months ago
ok, now go watch ur "4th quarter battle" by rogers. old piece of shit
element4life24 3 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Only *TWO* frontrunners? What? No room for Drew Breese?
uk6strings 3 months ago
@6:51 What just happened yesterday skip? Yeah now you can shut the fuck up you old wrinkly piece of shit.
badgerfan69 3 months ago
he has 12 signature games nuff said
lilstevie0827 3 months ago
i love being from wisconsin
lilstevie0827 3 months ago
Skip got owned here
Wisconsinite3 3 months ago
Suck on that one Skip Bayless! How's that for a signature "Aaron Rodgers victory"? Still think Brady is so much better than Rodgers, and that he deserves MVP?
rjwerning 3 months ago
GAME WINNING DRIVE AGAINST GIANTS! Suck my cock Bayless!
packerfan7121992 3 months ago
Skip Bayless is a professional troll...
mtuttle5 3 months ago
im a die hard patriots fan but it is clearly arron rodgers..
arron rodgers & tom brady > everybody else
jrjohnrico 3 months ago
@jrjohnrico I think you can include Brees with those three but other than that I agree.
packerfan7121992 3 months ago
@packerfan7121992 o yea i forgot him lol
jrjohnrico 3 months ago
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@jrjohnrico I think you can include Brees with those two but other than that I agree
packerfan7121992 3 months ago
Skip is only on this show for the devil's advocate side of the argument. A debate show where everyone agrees with everyone would be boring to watch, they need two sides to the argument. Skip provides that. Either that or he is nothing more than a troll just to piss people off.
packerfan7121992 3 months ago
If Rodgers isn't MVP this season, I've lost all hope for humanity! Rodgers MVP!!!!
BY3LLA 3 months ago
Yes he is!
atpro420 3 months ago
SKIP BAYLESS IS A FUCKING IDIOT.....
1uglyhawaiian 3 months ago 12
I hate Rob Parker nearly as much as I hate Skip Bayless! I haven't watched First and Ten in more than 2 years! Why do football analysts suck at their profession? Almost as baffling as the piss poor officiating of the league!
BigMoInAZ 3 months ago
Maaan fuck em both Drew brees! idc what yall say really..
jondeoleo 3 months ago
I agreee that aaron is playing at a high level but skip makes a point the packers didnt really anybody nd besides he has some weapons on his team that brady doesnt have... just a thought if brady had aaron's team nd aaron has brady's team who would really have the better team or the better year
Dwaynewade2478 3 months ago in playlist ESPN
Some1 needs to kill skip
xxpackers480 3 months ago
Skip is a str8 hater. SMH
lifeinthaboot 3 months ago
@GBPackersPRIDE Unless Aaron's team starts losing, all of a sudden...Then, he wouldn't be a LOCK and they would give it to Brady again. What the fuck does Peyton Manning have to do with anything? They're not going to slight Aaron and Brady and give his ass an MVP when he didn't even play this year.
imasonfree 3 months ago
maybe best offensive award you could throw bradys name in the convo but he'd lose that too to rodgers right now... as far as mvp goes, hes behind rodgers... and hell even manning... how can one man that takes a team to the best record in a decade... he misses one season and they go 0-11... cmon... he is there you know colts are 10-6 or better... thats an mvp...
Viperstrike28 3 months ago
they need to redefine the award... most valuable means most valuable to their team... brady got replaced by cassel and pats still went 11-5... manning isnt around and colts are 0-11 would they even be close to that with manning no... and rodgers not on green bay im sure would not be close to 11-0... and as for brady... im pretty sure mallett could step in and have them a winning record... that one guy doesnt even know what the hell he is saying...
Viperstrike28 3 months ago
Skip Bayless = Trolololol
Sometimes he just has awful opinions, but this is a classic example of awful logic.
LTR1GGZ 3 months ago
skip bayless is an idiot, did he see the bucs game? bucs were only down by two points in that game, and had all the momentum, and what does rodgers do? he throws a TD to put away the game. lions were starting to get momentum and were pushing a comeback in the thanksgiving game. what does rodgers do? he keeps the ball for 5 minutes and gets the packers in FG range. being clutch isnt ONLY making 4th quarter comebacks, its also being able to play at a high level when the other team has momentum.
HKISfreak1 3 months ago
I'm surprise Skip didn't choose Tebow as mvp.
tatda101 3 months ago
im a patriots fan and i dont even agree with Skip Bayless Rodgers is the better qb right now
SlimxShady73 3 months ago
fire skip bayless
ucbluman 3 months ago
Skip Bayless is a faggot. 'Nough said.
GBPackersWorldChamps 3 months ago