i agree with you, china has no claim over taiwan. the island was ruled by the japanese before taiwan ruled itself and then CKS and the kuomintang came over in 1949. china has had no part in taiwan's sovereignty so its claim is simply to take over taiwan's prosperous economy!!
fuck the communist party and chinese foreign policy!!
@GOTCOL A lot of people migrated to Taiwan from China long before the Japanese came.It was also part of Fujian province but we have to leaveit to them argue.
Taiwan has alot of economical ties with China and Taiwanese need to continue to trade with them if they wish to prosper.
wow pallediomc is an expert in east asian politics... thank you for "edimicating" us dumb westerners... sorry I spelled Xinjing incorrectly... but then I'm obviously not as smart of you
Taiwan does not threaten the PRC. The PRC is the real Nazi organization, ethnic cleansing of Xinjin and Tibet and Mongolia. Someday the People of China will have their own say and Hu will beg for mercy.
@interomike Hu still has 2 years left in office and by that time, China will still be having the same political structure. Educate yourself about China please.
@LordGuanProtect88 jap puppet to be precise, dont get the americans involved in this mess. America has and will always support the one-China policy, as stated repetitively by every president since Richard Nixon.
Generalissimo Chan Kai Shek is the real Fascist ,National Socialist and anti-communist Hero in Asia! Chang Kai Shek is my fuhrer farmer chen fuck off!
Remember the CCP overthrew China against the will of the people.. The Taiwanese will never forget the terrible crimes that Mao and the other early leaders committed against the Chinese people.
have you ever travelled outside of the major industrial cities in China?! Around 600,000,000 people live in poverty, China doesn't even embody real socialism or communism.
The only reason why the DPP can't garner popular support is because the KMT have such a monopoly on the Taiwanese people. They control virtually 80% of the media. They're using Chen as a scapegoat to avoid facing the actual issues.
Of course it's socialist, 10% of the population live below poverty because those areas are not yet industralized. Percentage-wise, the poverty rate in China is about the same as United States.
10% is a huge understatement. How can you say that the poverty rate is around the same as the U.S. ? China's international ranking per capita is 97, even Taiwan is better off at 25
and it most certainly isn't socialist, that would be virtually impossible, with a corrupt regime running the country and such a vast population.
10% isn't understatement, it's official statistics. China has lower per-capital GDP, but it's GDP growth is around 8% to 10% per year, while United States is around 1% to 2% per year, and likely -2% this year.
so obviously, they're not socialist. and those "official statistics", probably aren't official.
no matter how much Chen MIGHT have embezzled, there's no doubt that he sacrificed for Taiwan. Without him and some of his colleagues, Taiwan would have never seen democracy, economic prosperity, etc.
China is run by a totalitarian regime! That's being more than corrupt, they're stripping their citizens of natural rights.
@jlin249 Developing countries have a high rate of corruption, not totalitarian regimes; that's just genarlization. If you think we don't have any rights then come over to China and you'll see you're wrong.
@ManjuSu hahahah that's really funny cause I loved it when I was in China and couldn't use Google or facebook. And if you think the Chinese government isn't restricting basic human rights, type in 'falun gong persecution' into any search engine.
@mizutofu If you like china that much, then MOVE BACK YOURSELF. don't ask others to join you in the garbage dump. LOSER!
In china, everyone spits, cars drive on sidewalks, everyone smokes including children, restroom are scary, shit smear all over the wall, can't flush, and no tissue.
Keep Taiwan free... Freedom will never die... China never did SHIT for the Taiwanese people before 1950 why do they want control now...WAKEUP FREEDOM Loving Taiwanese...all you CCP lovers go back to your mutated country called "Peoples Republic of China" and keep beleiving the lies of Mao!!!!
Chiang may have done wrong but he develop Taiwan and during his time many Asian countries were not as develop. The original people are the Shan Ti people and Chinese Taiwanese. Futhermore, if you DPP is so insistent in Taiwan independent then go for the next election and pluck up your courage and go for it. Never mind if China will attack. Don't just talk.
During Chang's regime, the economy of Taiwan was behind that of Zaire's....
He was notoriously known as a brutal dictator who killed so many people that he is behind only Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. how can you say he developed Taiwan?! what a joke!
I see you posting gibberish like that all over these videos!
Btw, Chiang Kai-shek has done his best in uniting China. The reason he ruled in Taiwan in an autocratic manner is to prevent Communist spies to infiltrate the government. He did not attempt to play identity politics like da Pan-Green, but 2 challenge da CCP's 'Mandate of Heaven'. Have u ever taught that without CKS, da Taiwanese will have to sing 'Socialism is good'? Of course Chiang makes mistakes, but he's a human. @ least he does contribute 2 Taiwan democracy & give Chinese democracy a hope.
Chiang Kai-shek lost support in mainland China because his gov't/army was corrupted, and he betrayed Sun Yet-Sen's vision of reform and democracy for China. Chiang didn't try to play identify politics? Before a school trip to Taipei, our teacher, a KMT party member not by choice, instructed us to speak "mandarin Chinese" in public over there so we can be seen as "educated". If we don't, then we are considered ghetto. Imagine you go to D.C, and you are asked to speak only English in public.
Taiwan provided a shelter for Chiang Kai-shek because he got his ass kicked and had no where to go. It's not Taiwan needed Chiang's protection from the communists. Taiwan got nothing to do with China's civil war, and has never been involved in any battle until Chiang came. The US at the time was determined to keep Taiwan off communist China's control. Chiang would not be where he was without US support, and the US could topple him from power if it wanted to.
jcs1978: Yes, Chiang did some bad stuff, and he misused his power and killed a whole bunch of Taiwanese people, plus he attempted and failed horribly on eliminating the Taiwanese language, but he is still a dude in Taiwan's history, not even renaming Chiang Kai Shek memorial hall, or ripping apart his statue, would Change that.
What you said just showed how insecure Chiang Kai-shek was. Let Taiwanese make their own judgements about him instead of trying to "glorify" him in Taiwan's history books. When I was a kid, I learned stuff about him that I never believe in. I was not the only one who didn't believe him, and our teacher, a KMT member not by choice, knew it. So, why pretending? Do American history books "glorify" Washington and Lincoln? No, and the students are free to have debates. That's the way it should be.
I don't try to forget about him. I just cannot related to him very well because he pride himself as a "mainland Chinese", and I pride myself as a "Taiwanese". I also realized that me and my classmates were "cheated" by him and his KMT. Don't have strong opinions about changes names that named after him. Referendum can solve that problem.
true. Chiang attempted to destroy the Taiwanese language (He failed horribly), killed many anti Chinese, and declared Martial Law, but there are some great things he did: He developed much of Taoyuan and Taiwan, plus he saved Taiwan from the communists. I don't support KMT, but, Chiang was a great man.
Haha, not sure Chiang was a great man because his long policy of playing favor with those who came with him to Taiwan and undermining native-born Taiwanese created a division within the society.
Actully American history books do glorify Washington and Lincoln. Do those history books mention that Lincoln's primary reason for fighting the civil war was to maintain a unified United States, not free the slaves?
In America, you have the choice not to believe the history textbooks and can have debates in classroom. In China, you don't have that choice. I don't care what you believe about Washington and Lincoln because it's your choice.
How can anyone not believe in history textbook? If the school do not present alternate views? Americans think their system is perfect, that's why they are reluctant to demand real reform.
台巴子一直说要独立,就独立不了,果然是东亚病夫台巴子国。
a23091399824 4 months ago
@a23091399824 支那巴子一直吵著要統一 但是也只是說說 根本就是怕了台灣
nzhugo 2 weeks ago
日本右翼奴隷台湾土人
killjap100 5 months ago
@killjap100 吵甚麼? 你們不就中國的一部分? 憤青
nzhugo 2 weeks ago
this is hu jintao right?
i agree with you, china has no claim over taiwan. the island was ruled by the japanese before taiwan ruled itself and then CKS and the kuomintang came over in 1949. china has had no part in taiwan's sovereignty so its claim is simply to take over taiwan's prosperous economy!!
fuck the communist party and chinese foreign policy!!
GOTCOL 1 year ago
@GOTCOL A lot of people migrated to Taiwan from China long before the Japanese came.It was also part of Fujian province but we have to leaveit to them argue.
Taiwan has alot of economical ties with China and Taiwanese need to continue to trade with them if they wish to prosper.
BafflinBook 10 months ago
@BafflinBook yes I know. but Taiwan is independent
GOTCOL 10 months ago
I don't like Chen Shui-bian. But this is a pointless piece of nonsense.
xiexiansheng 1 year ago
UN MEMBERSHIP FOR TAIWAN
BAIYUE1 1 year ago
台湾人=骂人机器
他们不懂:若真的打仗,死的还不都是两岸的无辜百姓吗.不都是你 的父母兄弟吗?
一个强大的台湾,符合亚洲的和平利益,甚至对世界都是贡献
仍然骂,可悲。。。。><
comercial1976 1 year ago
@comercial1976 攻擊的飛彈是在中國手上 怎麼會說台灣破壞和平? 就好像你手上有槍 你要我把錢給你 還威脅我 如果我不肯把錢給你 你就會開槍 這樣就是破壞大家的和氣. 請你真的清楚的想一想. 我沒有甚麼立場 只是就這件事情上 我不能認同 怎麼會說 沒有侵略意圖的那個是破壞和平的人
nzhugo 2 weeks ago
this loser is in jail for the rest of his life. hahahaahahaha
CaptainCool07 1 year ago
fuck ccp
JI394 1 year ago
Ma is the real PRC puppet, a servant of CCK an his thugs, may dogs piss on the grave of CKC and Mao!!!!!!
interomike 1 year ago
wow pallediomc is an expert in east asian politics... thank you for "edimicating" us dumb westerners... sorry I spelled Xinjing incorrectly... but then I'm obviously not as smart of you
interomike 1 year ago
Taiwan does not threaten the PRC. The PRC is the real Nazi organization, ethnic cleansing of Xinjin and Tibet and Mongolia. Someday the People of China will have their own say and Hu will beg for mercy.
interomike 1 year ago
@interomike wtf is xinjin? time to get educated ignorant fag.
palladiomc 1 year ago 2
@interomike Hu still has 2 years left in office and by that time, China will still be having the same political structure. Educate yourself about China please.
ManjuSu 1 year ago
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好啦 kuso 後, 趕快派大使團下南洋談統一了,,,時間緊迫了
iean888999 1 year ago
kill fucking Chinese
That's all
AMUROFOCKCHINHA 1 year ago
@AMUROFOCKCHINHA now we see why hoklo fags elected their Fuhrer and had their ultimate demise.
palladiomc 1 year ago
chen shui bian is a dickface democrat and zionist's american puppet, puppy woof woof ,race traitor subhuman. I hope you love your long-term holiday
LordGuanProtect88 2 years ago
@LordGuanProtect88 jap puppet to be precise, dont get the americans involved in this mess. America has and will always support the one-China policy, as stated repetitively by every president since Richard Nixon.
palladiomc 1 year ago
Generalissimo Chan Kai Shek is the real Fascist ,National Socialist and anti-communist Hero in Asia! Chang Kai Shek is my fuhrer farmer chen fuck off!
LordGuanProtect88 2 years ago
fuck you dont insult hitler with chen shui bian and commie
LordGuanProtect88 2 years ago
dummhaiten! ''meine deutsche jugend''
ich denke dass hitler einen schwul war,er sollte scheisse essen
dunkel115 2 years ago
Stupid moron. How about Ma Ying-jeou also facing corruption?
mah29732 2 years ago
這個實在是太經典了!哈哈哈....像到都分不清楚,誰是誰囉!!
aannddyy5784 3 years ago
Mao Tse Tung was the real hitler!
hitler killed 60 milion people,
mao killed 80 milion (not foreigners, only his own chinese civilians!)
wow, respect!
btw Taiwan is the real China
fuck you commie! ;)
PolskaMniejszosc 3 years ago
Your photoshopping skills are amazing, you're able to accurately depict human mentality in physical form!
SuperOnionFruit 3 years ago
Chen so far is the most liberal president in the Taiwan history.
cstrcmp 3 years ago
He is a running dog of the Western imperalists, that's why he has dual-citizenship.
mizutofu 2 years ago
Remember the CCP overthrew China against the will of the people.. The Taiwanese will never forget the terrible crimes that Mao and the other early leaders committed against the Chinese people.
interomike 3 years ago
i think you'd be happy sharing the jail cell with hitler bian lol.
Ch1naUn1ted 3 years ago
Against will of the people? CCP has popular support. All the smart people are socialists/communists.
mizutofu 2 years ago
hahahah you can't be serious...
have you ever travelled outside of the major industrial cities in China?! Around 600,000,000 people live in poverty, China doesn't even embody real socialism or communism.
The only reason why the DPP can't garner popular support is because the KMT have such a monopoly on the Taiwanese people. They control virtually 80% of the media. They're using Chen as a scapegoat to avoid facing the actual issues.
jlin249 2 years ago
Of course it's socialist, 10% of the population live below poverty because those areas are not yet industralized. Percentage-wise, the poverty rate in China is about the same as United States.
mizutofu 2 years ago
10% is a huge understatement. How can you say that the poverty rate is around the same as the U.S. ? China's international ranking per capita is 97, even Taiwan is better off at 25
and it most certainly isn't socialist, that would be virtually impossible, with a corrupt regime running the country and such a vast population.
jlin249 2 years ago
10% isn't understatement, it's official statistics. China has lower per-capital GDP, but it's GDP growth is around 8% to 10% per year, while United States is around 1% to 2% per year, and likely -2% this year.
Ha ha, corrupt? you know who's corrupt? Bian.
mizutofu 2 years ago
so obviously, they're not socialist. and those "official statistics", probably aren't official.
no matter how much Chen MIGHT have embezzled, there's no doubt that he sacrificed for Taiwan. Without him and some of his colleagues, Taiwan would have never seen democracy, economic prosperity, etc.
China is run by a totalitarian regime! That's being more than corrupt, they're stripping their citizens of natural rights.
jlin249 2 years ago
@jlin249 Developing countries have a high rate of corruption, not totalitarian regimes; that's just genarlization. If you think we don't have any rights then come over to China and you'll see you're wrong.
ManjuSu 1 year ago
@ManjuSu hahahah that's really funny cause I loved it when I was in China and couldn't use Google or facebook. And if you think the Chinese government isn't restricting basic human rights, type in 'falun gong persecution' into any search engine.
jlin249 1 year ago
@jlin249 falun gong=restricting basic human rights and/or plain dumb.
DuhLie 1 year ago
@DuhLie so you can burn yourself, its your rights, lol
comercial1976 1 year ago
@comercial1976 no, my rights is burning you.......
DuhLie 1 year ago
Also comparing wealth is not very meaningful; Singapore has one of the highest per capital GDP in the world and it's one-party state like China.
mizutofu 2 years ago 5
haha, youre the one trying to convince me that China's citizens are as well off as U.S. citizens...
jlin249 2 years ago
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@mizutofu If you like china that much, then MOVE BACK YOURSELF. don't ask others to join you in the garbage dump. LOSER!
In china, everyone spits, cars drive on sidewalks, everyone smokes including children, restroom are scary, shit smear all over the wall, can't flush, and no tissue.
you are free to move back anytime you like!
vincelee7676 1 year ago
Chiang Kai-shek was a butcher and the KMT is no better
interomike 3 years ago
Keep Taiwan free... Freedom will never die... China never did SHIT for the Taiwanese people before 1950 why do they want control now...WAKEUP FREEDOM Loving Taiwanese...all you CCP lovers go back to your mutated country called "Peoples Republic of China" and keep beleiving the lies of Mao!!!!
interomike 3 years ago
good, Chen Shuibian is a dog!
Brad1989zhangrui 3 years ago
Chiang may have done wrong but he develop Taiwan and during his time many Asian countries were not as develop. The original people are the Shan Ti people and Chinese Taiwanese. Futhermore, if you DPP is so insistent in Taiwan independent then go for the next election and pluck up your courage and go for it. Never mind if China will attack. Don't just talk.
zibyourmouth 3 years ago
During Chang's regime, the economy of Taiwan was behind that of Zaire's....
He was notoriously known as a brutal dictator who killed so many people that he is behind only Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. how can you say he developed Taiwan?! what a joke!
I see you posting gibberish like that all over these videos!
jlin249 3 years ago
Ya, but you like United STates, eve though United States supported Pol Pot.
mizutofu 2 years ago
Before comparing Hitler with Chen Shui Bian just look in your history books stupid asshole, and look what hitler did in Europe.....
spankman89 3 years ago
this is retarded ....
zumwane 3 years ago 2
Chiang Kai-shak is the real Taiwanese Hitler.
jcs1978 3 years ago 2
Btw, Chiang Kai-shek has done his best in uniting China. The reason he ruled in Taiwan in an autocratic manner is to prevent Communist spies to infiltrate the government. He did not attempt to play identity politics like da Pan-Green, but 2 challenge da CCP's 'Mandate of Heaven'. Have u ever taught that without CKS, da Taiwanese will have to sing 'Socialism is good'? Of course Chiang makes mistakes, but he's a human. @ least he does contribute 2 Taiwan democracy & give Chinese democracy a hope.
CHENPEIYI1989 3 years ago
Chiang Kai-shek lost support in mainland China because his gov't/army was corrupted, and he betrayed Sun Yet-Sen's vision of reform and democracy for China. Chiang didn't try to play identify politics? Before a school trip to Taipei, our teacher, a KMT party member not by choice, instructed us to speak "mandarin Chinese" in public over there so we can be seen as "educated". If we don't, then we are considered ghetto. Imagine you go to D.C, and you are asked to speak only English in public.
jcs1978 3 years ago 2
Taiwan provided a shelter for Chiang Kai-shek because he got his ass kicked and had no where to go. It's not Taiwan needed Chiang's protection from the communists. Taiwan got nothing to do with China's civil war, and has never been involved in any battle until Chiang came. The US at the time was determined to keep Taiwan off communist China's control. Chiang would not be where he was without US support, and the US could topple him from power if it wanted to.
jcs1978 3 years ago
jcs1978: Yes, Chiang did some bad stuff, and he misused his power and killed a whole bunch of Taiwanese people, plus he attempted and failed horribly on eliminating the Taiwanese language, but he is still a dude in Taiwan's history, not even renaming Chiang Kai Shek memorial hall, or ripping apart his statue, would Change that.
taiwanrox8 3 years ago
What you said just showed how insecure Chiang Kai-shek was. Let Taiwanese make their own judgements about him instead of trying to "glorify" him in Taiwan's history books. When I was a kid, I learned stuff about him that I never believe in. I was not the only one who didn't believe him, and our teacher, a KMT member not by choice, knew it. So, why pretending? Do American history books "glorify" Washington and Lincoln? No, and the students are free to have debates. That's the way it should be.
jcs1978 3 years ago
Exactly, but you cannot just forget him. He still existed. what is wrong is how people are trying to rename everything that was named after him.
taiwanrox8 3 years ago
I don't try to forget about him. I just cannot related to him very well because he pride himself as a "mainland Chinese", and I pride myself as a "Taiwanese". I also realized that me and my classmates were "cheated" by him and his KMT. Don't have strong opinions about changes names that named after him. Referendum can solve that problem.
jcs1978 3 years ago 2
true. Chiang attempted to destroy the Taiwanese language (He failed horribly), killed many anti Chinese, and declared Martial Law, but there are some great things he did: He developed much of Taoyuan and Taiwan, plus he saved Taiwan from the communists. I don't support KMT, but, Chiang was a great man.
taiwanrox8 3 years ago
Haha, not sure Chiang was a great man because his long policy of playing favor with those who came with him to Taiwan and undermining native-born Taiwanese created a division within the society.
jcs1978 3 years ago
Actully American history books do glorify Washington and Lincoln. Do those history books mention that Lincoln's primary reason for fighting the civil war was to maintain a unified United States, not free the slaves?
mizutofu 2 years ago
In America, you have the choice not to believe the history textbooks and can have debates in classroom. In China, you don't have that choice. I don't care what you believe about Washington and Lincoln because it's your choice.
Are you having fun getting out-spam on youtube?
jcs1978 2 years ago
How can anyone not believe in history textbook? If the school do not present alternate views? Americans think their system is perfect, that's why they are reluctant to demand real reform.
mizutofu 2 years ago
this is so retarded. first of all Taiwan is too weak militarily to go on a global conquest.
aquafin11 3 years ago
Well look at the crazy Fascist countries! Georgia attacking Russia? Seems stupid but that's what they're doing.
agraphian 3 years ago
isitreallyhim 3 years ago
他还没那能力呢~~~ 他连希特勒的一根脑神经都比不上~~希特勒毕竟还是为了当时的德国着想~~~
这个白痴呢? 分裂着想~~
该杀!!!
dwq8762 4 years ago 2
這個好笑XD
jien813 4 years ago 2