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  • Gotta love it, this ripped this and that ripped that and this was ripoff from that. Ok warhammer uses dices, so its ripoff backgammon. Oh wait Starship trooper novels was where it all started, or was it? Im pretty sure someone thought of aliens and humans in space before that, so who did he/she rip off?

    Share the love, nobody really cares if its a ripoff when its a good game, book, movie or whatnot.

  • Christ shut up folk. Both 40k and Starcraft drew influence the original Starship Trooper novels, which drew their influence from tons of other sci-fi books.

  • @7graywolf7 yeh my mistake ive only seen the movies :/ ill have to read the book sometime becaause i didnt even knnow there was one. but point taken.

  • ok the only way that warhammer is the same as starship troopers are the bugs. tyranids are a combo of limbs from ST and their bodies are similar to ALIENS but all iin all they are pretty original so everyone should stop arguing about it.

  • @killr97 Actually the Space Marines are very similar, practically identical even, to the soldiers in the Starship Troopers book. The movie is completely different and I think that's what you're thinking off. I think in the book they were called "marauders" or something.

  • i love orks but they never made it very far in a battle they were always shot to pecies by space marines so i raged and made a n small eldar army

  • And this video confused me, all i really heard was "a bunch of stuff died, and a whole group here got demolished"

    i wish it was a little slower and said which units killed which.

  • I don't think it matters who stole from who, I still think 40k is better than starship troopers or starcraft or anything else. nothing beats 40k in my book. even if it's "stolen" from something. they only made it better than the original.

    plus the background stories on each army are amazingly detailed. something other games have like 0 of.

  • I know sc2 might have stole from wh40k but it's kinda hard to come up with aliens and inmost games it's humans=machines some buggy creature and then a super evolved alien

  • He looks like Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth and it is sexy as well as distracting when I am trying to figure out the game.

  • hi im a noob at this and ive got 50 bucks to start out a army does any one have any suggestions on what kind of army i should start out with i could use the help.

  • @pikachuthunder1 what you should do is save up 110 bucks for a battle force. It will be a little bit of a challenge to put them together as they are not confined to individual boxes but im sure you can figure it out. and be sure to choose any you like not because its "noob friendly". If you get models that don't appeal to your tastes you won't have fun painting or playing as them. Also go to mega upload for codex's and rulebooks to start out with. dont forget plastic cuters and plastic glue.

  • actually everything stole fom d and d so STFU!!!

  • @gutbeast2 Dungeons and Dragons started in 1974 and GW started in 1975 so you could be right there, but i still like Warhammer ^_^.

  • Lol WHAT! He shaved and its back! xD

  • how do you play?

  • im thinking about doing an imperial gaurd army, but converting them with skaven (i love skaven). but i dont really know where to start... can anyone give me some advice?

  • I want to rip Moe's head off. He annoys the shite out of me.

  • "moe" scares me. his voice is weird...and he talks weird in the video....and he sort of reminds me of a fatter version of skwisgaar from metalocalypse..and he said "lets do this" like 45 times.

    however that last laugh at the end of the video that turned into the intimidating stare, kind of made me laugh.

  • I think you guys played the PBS' perils of the warp wrong. If you roll PoTW on a PBS, the overseer executes D3 sanctioned psykers. He himself is not a sanctioned psyker and will never kill himself.

  • mmmmmmmmm....freshly squeezed frozen juice

  • Don't bag warhammer man

  • Is there a video that doesn't involve nerds and dice?

  • I prefer the zerg to the Tyranids... but I also prefer the Eldar to the Protoss, and the Space Marines to the Terran.

  • Cool, this is the GW I used to visit when I temporarily played.

    I'm thinking about getting back into this stuff soon, and I think the Guard are really cool, but I've heard they are an expensive army to collect and I don't have a lot of money these days :( I want to collect an army for both Fantasy and 40k, so cheaper probably=better.

  • i wish i had an instant regrowing beard...

  • Too much camera movement. Nauseous now.

  • Man you musit shave every 5 minutes

  • "Less do dis" *Joe says something* "*mumble mumble* Less do dis"

  • @Multibambams IMP Guard infantry armys are very hard to do. Ork Infantry is slightly easyer to do becouse of the massive Trucks you can bring along to transport your army. If you like infantry (Mass) Armys Orks is possibly the way to go. IMG Guard is more of a "Tank/Mech" Type Army builder. However if your playing Orks in like Apocolypse or LARGE point games. Your going to want to swich to something to cover/help your infantry out vs Large Template weapons and such.

  • Imperial guard in the open, lol what did you expect, your only hope was to use your tanks as cover.

  • idk whitch one to chose imperal guard or orks i like more infatry based armys so thats orks and orks have a advantege in close-combat but i like the veriaty of imperal guard plz tell me what you guys think

  • @multibambams orks...lots and lots of orks o-o

  • 270803735802?

  • everyone im selling warhammer 40k imperial guard army 30 + imperial guard troops 10 stormtropers and a warhammer 40k tool kit it has been used and il throw in 1 heavy weapon team for 5 pound look out on ebay for ma items peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • BUY NECRONS ALL HAIL THE NODAL GRID

  • jj

  • Thumbs up if your watching this while eating soup

  • Thats where i go

  • Orkeyz are bigger and better than them small u'meis wiv dere blasty gunz. BUT DERE NOFIN COMPARED TO DA WAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

  • This is so stupid

  • rofl joe!

  • I'm surprised that many people dont know that starcraft ripped off warhammer 40k because blizzard couldnt buy the rights.

  • @arwing20 just wondering, how? I mean, aside from the fact the word "space marine " comes up.

  • @TheSharklionBeast Well the first hint is that Blizzard wanted to, but couldn't buy the rights to a warhammer game.

  • @arwing20 Yeah Warcraft and Starcraft both ripped plenty of stuff from Fantasy and 40k. They've kind developed in their own direction and have a different flavour, but many basic things are undeniably similar.

  • @arwing20 Wait, how di they? sorry I don't do starcraft.

  • @arwing20 what u talkin bout?

  • @arwing20 actually gw and blizzard we working together and then at the last minute GW pulled out, so they made starcraft

  • @arwing20 to be honest i see them as totally seperate games....

    i don't see any comparison....that the human dudes in starcraft have big armor like space marines? so do the guys from gears of war lmfao...is halo ripping off of the tau?

    not to mention, i haven't seen a starcraft tabletop game.

    i ...suppose i could be wrong. but i don't think so

  • @weeboks The power armour used by the Terrans (Starcraft), Space Marines (WH40K), and the Humans (Gears) are all directly taken from the original Starship Troopers novel of 1959. Power armour has recently become a staple in futuristic Human armies. But yeah, these games do take a lot of inspiration from other sources. Blizzard isn't as original as everyone thinks they are and Gears is just a cash in.

  • @7graywolf7 Just to play devils advocate, the armour in Gears doesn't do shit. It's useless and offers no protection, I wouldn't count it into the power armour category.

  • @cogwheel756 That's for game play purposes of course. Imagine how boring it would be if 90% of the weapons in the game couldn't hurt you at all?

  • @7graywolf7 Fair enough, it's just that most armour in anything (gaming related) nowadays is just for show and it does nothing, that is what I like about Warhammer, different weaknesses and strengths.

  • @7graywolf7 hmmm, not doubting you, but any evidence that it comes from starship troopers?

    and anyways, how many years could pass before someone came up with that idea anyways ? big strong armor...sounds normal to me.

    but i don't think blizzard is original at all >< orcs, elves, humans have been around for quite along while. I'm not sure about tauren though..

  • @weeboks You're right about how sooner or later some body would come up with the idea of power armour. But the first time it was ever thought of was indeed starship troopers. . It was actually a really uncommon type of outfit to be seen in any type of genre until Star Wars and the Imperial Storm-Troopers came around.

    You'll have to read the S. Troopers book because it's hard to prove something that was in a book. But search wikipedia for the book and read "Military Innovations".

  • @weeboks You might also be interested to know that the ODST in Halo are direct recreations of the Mobile Infantry from the S.Trooper book.

  • @arwing20 how did they rip off?

  • @arwing20 Blizzard was actually hired to make the first wh40k game.

    They disliked the lore but liked the units, so then they made their own universes.

    Basically SC and WC is WH40k but split into future and past.

  • @arwing20 Dude so many people (blizzard especially) rip off warhammer it isn't funny.

  • @KnutRudikle Actually I think it really funny. But that's just because Warhammer stole most of there content from RST. When Warhammer 40k came out, RST almost immediately turned the tables by releasing Spelljammer. These things are circular. And while Starcraft and Warcraft are almost completely devoid of original thought; I think you'd be surprised at how much Game Workshop has stolen from Diablo.

  • @SuperPanoply There is a barrier between stealing content and being influenced, taking an idea, and making it your own. The idea of "original" is really how personalized an idea gets. Even if Warhammer did steal some things *exact copies nearly* and I'd like to see proof, and I'd still prefer Warhammer lore simply because of how badass it is, there's no room for fluffy shit and messing around, just war.

  • @arwing20 i love warhammer 40k, but starcraft and warhammer are ripped of starship troopers,

  • @dkingmarco starcraft is ripped off of warhammer 40k. 40k was 20 years before starcraft in the 80s. 40k is a space version of WHB which was going on since the 60s (correct me if iwrong) I think it was originally called warhammer in space then it got switched to rogue trader. Starship troopers is in no way ripped off of warhammer and warhammer is in no way ripped off of starship troopers.

  • @shadowsnip1 they created the tyranids and zerg based on bugs of starship troopers, just google

    

  • @dkingmarco oh yeah I can believe the tyranids are based on the arachnids from starship troopers. I just thought you meant the entire 40k series was based around starship troopers.

  • @arwing20 *outside the major differences cough cough* no you do have a point but really just cuz terrans and space marines look alike doesn't mean there the same.

  • @bender5836 umm... The Zerg are basically Tryanid. They DID rip of Warhammer 40k to some degree. They only "original" thought on the subject was the Protoss, but even that was spawned from the idea of the Xel'naga, which are a rip off of the Old Ones in Warhammer 40k.

  • is renegade guardsmen its own force? Or do you buy IG and use a different color scheme or what?

  • @Ydouneed2nomyname Buy Normal IG.

  • im in colorado,with no GamesWorkshop in the state! :(

  • Couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. Or a tank. Or a broadside. made me lol

  • i don't know if anyone can relate to me but, imagine that you have no idea what warhammer is and then listen to this game. i didnt understand anything

  • @southyskimboarders I play orks but ik that the berserkers r in the army. Not to clear on the minions though

  • im confused .. i wanna be chaos spave marines , but then some of them have krone berserkers after the name does that still count as the chaos sapce marine army ?? , also under the chaso space marine army list i can get summoned minions .. that allso counts as part of the choas army ? . pleease relpy thanks :)

  • @southyskimboarders

    Yes, Khorne Berserkers are part of the Chaos Space Marine army. They're fanatic Chaos Space Marines that worship Khorne and have basically lost their minds and want to slaughter everything ;).

    And yes, you can summon daemons to use in your CSM army :).

  • i have a blond guy....but no bald guy :P

  • my 3 local hobbie stores all hv a blonde guy and a bald guy

  • Awesome work guys - keep it up!

  • what a badass ren guard player. :P

  • Hahahahahahahaha..... lolz dave

  • Insta beard!

  • ok i thumbed up, and then i saw the laugh and i tried it againxD

  • I love that gw the people who work there are wasome

  • Thats sweet, i just got ahold of a forgeworld marauder bomber and im like so anxious to find out the specs of hat thing in a game xDDD

  • ive never played warhammer 40k (other than the pc game version) and i love watching the videos of the actual game, but i dont have the time nor money to collect and raise a good army and paint them too :( . ah well i can still watch for free =)

  • Why do I love this stuff???????????/ I WANT TO GO TO A GAMES WORKSHOP!! ARIZONA SUCKS!!!!! I'm dying to play this again...........

  • @KingCommando32 I don´t know buutt I love it too :D 

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  • shaving part was awsome

  • Guys we have to focus on whats important, Joe got instant beard regrowth!

    Always laugh at the end when Dave laugh as shit and then when Joe shave ;)

  • the big barrel on the leman russ= vanquisher cannon

  • Whats up with the massive barrel on one of the IG tanks?  Is that shit legal, or just cheese?

  • @BigJaseNZ its awsome right

  • Alexis on fire haha good band

  • You should have an Orks vs. Orks vs. Orks! (Dan vs. Joe vs. Paul)

  • That aint Imperial Guard... the renegades. Their chaos.

  • Free army codexes here: warhammer40karmycodex.weebly(d­ot)com

  • pause at 4:24

  • rofl at the ending :P

  • Best ending

  • Dave at the end made me spit my drink out laughing lloolol

  • is there really such thing as a renegade guardsmen army??? do they have a codex????

  • @deone67 No they're a "counts as" army. Just guardsmen with maybe chaos spawn for ogryns, chaos iconography, and other stuff like that.

  • @deone67 Yeah it's called the Eye of Terror.

  • Nah, I kinda got bored with you the other day with this argument. You just keep dragging it out so I have to keep coming back to keep you company while you keep trolling.

    What is that butt pirate talk? haha. ''go suck your dads dick''. thats just...gay and immature...not even funny really. Something a kid would say especially with the disney rated nob term....plz don't attempt humor. I got the ''I fucked your mom's'' out of my system when I was in highscool and you will too kid :D cheer up!

  • @paedodickhead dont get too offended kid, you will know more when you get older

  • @paedodickhead I know you said yellow as in ''cowardly''...aaaand people said it back in the 1950's and it wasn't fucking cool or badass back then either. Where do you get your insults from, hitchcock films?

    How did this start again? Oh yeah, i said most people have other shit to do than paint figures all day, and you couldn't believe people have jobs or other activities besides sitting in a room alone listening to dragonforce while painting.

  • This looks like my old GW, too bad it closed, are you in Washington State around South Center?

  • @paedodickhead i'd rather be a pink cunt, you are what you eat after all...I dunno what kinda vag you've seen kid. Oh and thanks for droppin in a comment on my page, I'd reply back but you blocked it like a P-U-S-S-Y :D cant wait for the next reply pedophiledickhead.

  • @paedodickhead LOL @ you LOLing I know, that shit is fucking hilarious right?

  • NERDS NERDS NERDS NNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRDD­DDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS­SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • @paedodickhead ok....first of all, didnt say anything about wanting to or not wanting to buy it. Secondly...who gives a fuck, we freed you from being eventually ass raped by hitler. And no...how could somebody be too busy being unemployed? Moonshine is what rednecks make in the middle of butt fuck nowhere, most of us americans have no idea about it or its contents. And no...I have home with a nice plot of land. you are a pussy..and you arleady deleted your account. HAHAHAHA

  • I once liked warhammer i spent moneys on the rules paints models etc and it was something that i enjoyed until i looked at myself with these people around me..all nerdy and spotty who seemed to live for warhammer people who were in their 30's and I SAID NOO I WILL NOT BECOME ONE OF THEM! and so i gave it up sold my models and stopped playing so i can save my life from obsession but warhammer will still have a place in my heart where it used to fill :'(

  • @halomaniackslashcraz there is a difference with hobby and obsession

  • @law573 it was a hobby but i just started doing to much of it and nothing else so i just quite i feel that it was only a hobby that should have been sustained from 10-13 years old i did it because it started to conflict things in my real life like homework, family,friends etc so i felt that i was having to much fun and it was really fun i enjoyed it alot but alas it was not to be :'(

  • who long did that game go for ??

  • how the FUCK do u play war hammer

  • @thebmxkingfatbaldmen

    u just get stuff and blow crap up!

  • @thebmxkingfatbaldmen

    It's like playing chess. With tanks, aircraft z(Or repulsorlift skimmers), giant dudes, battle suits, war mongers, units that make your entire army asplode etc etc.

  • Lol, at his beard turning back after washing his face.

  • These guys are Canadians, not Americans.

  • grey knights

  • Shit man, I went to square one and couldn't figure out where to go either!

  • does anyone know if there is a gameworkshop somewere around the L.A are

  • Look at these american noobs! not even painted. tutut

  • @Sentinal3131 This is a war game , not a painting contest, Idiot. They could be busy and they don't have time to paint, but you with your tiny little brain could not understand that, retard.

  • @roguegoliath74 its abit of both actually.

  • @Sentinal3131 i guess...

    

  • @Sentinal3131 They're in Canada retard

  • @IIGECKOII CANADA IS IN AMERICA...and you're calling me a retard. go check any map that shows continents.

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  • @Sentinal3131 we are too busy kicking your country's ass to paint all our figures.

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  • @cky283 Hey dont get hostile to Uk'ers Im fine with Americans. And I hate tea :P

  • @cky283 Im not a foreinger. you are! hahaha

  • The IG player looks like a porn star

  • @annoyingryan1220419 thats cuz he is one!!!???! lololololololol

  • @annoyingryan1220419 Damn Right

  • What the Fu@$ was that at the end?

  • hahah his beard insta-grew

  • the guy at 5:40 is the best!

  • I woulda given this video the title "The Mo-Jo battle".

    The beard regrowing was a scene from the simpons, homer did the exact same thing,supposed to symbolize uber manliness. It's kinda funny considering he just had a nice battle with someone called Moe (I can only assume thats how it's spelled)

  • Joe has instant hair regeneration.

  • Real life : Can't hit the Broadside of a barn

    40k: Can hit a Broad side

  • I really don't get this game :p

  • @TheCakeIsASpy0o what dont u get

  • @isaacimo23 The rules, the attack points thingy, the movement etc. Aka, everything :p

  • @TheCakeIsASpy0o well if this kind of thing tickles your fancy, and u have some time spare, the best thing to do isto jump right in a play a few practise games with a freind who knows how to play or if u know someone with a couple of armies, don't even think about buy models - just get used to how the game is laid out, its phases and your understanding will improve 100% from what u understand currently. It may / may not be for you so by doing this u have not spent any money.

  • Why did I just watch Joe shave...?

  • @imsomeoldguy i asked myself the exact same quuestion no answer

  • "can't hit the broadside of a barn... or a broadside..." hahaha

  • grots in trukk?

  • moe seemed very nervous

  • If you want to start a new army either assault of black reach for space marines and orks then! but the booster box thing ;D

  • what are the ork tanks called

  • @Trickydude123 looted leman russ

  • lol the bandaid when hes shaving

  • HOW is that every gameworkshop store has a bald guy and a blonde dude?

  • @Chavalierdeon every one

  • @Chavalierdeon

    Ya don't understand! Its a tradition and save trade mark for every single game workshop around the world to have one

  • @Chavalierdeon Its on the equal opportunities form...

  • @Chavalierdeon Well the one at our mall has a shaved head guy and a spikey brown haired guy

  • @Chavalierdeon Mine has a guy with brown hair :P

  • Alexis on fire rules!

  • i'm trying to settle on weather 2 buy black reach starter kit or space marine battle force

  • @british8760 buy the black reach starter set. way better

  • @british8760 both :D

  • lol his beard grew back after he finished shaving

  • Watch my Battlereports. I think they are very good.

  • I play Orks :) btw i just subbed

  • lol at the ending

  • Waaaaaaaaaaaagh!

  • the psyker-battle squad leader does not kill himself. you guys made a failure there ;)

  • DA Orks!!!!