Dude are you joking? Get a job or something! You are absolutely bat shit crazy. People watching this, think for yourself! They use scientology techniques but it has nothing to do with making you follow the church. It works if you want to get off drugs which this guy obviously is having hard time doing.
I really feel bad for you bro... You are straight up ignorant and oblivious and you need help.
@YouStoleMyShoe ; "Church?" What "church?" The subject is Scientology, not any religion. The Scientology crime syndicate's narCONon fraud kills people. Stay away from it.
@YouStoleMyShoe at Narconon there is a picture of L. Ron Hubbard in every single room. Not once in the program do the staff members talk about drugs and I was ther for 4 months. They do not push any church or on you at the rehab (they gave the option to go to christian churches on sundays)and it will work if you want it to work just like every rehab. I do not agree with the lack of medical attention that they give people there sauna is where they overdose people on niacin and make them sweat
But if one was to mention the idea of Narconon being involved with scientology in the rehab they kick you out. I was on the phone during a break and I told my dad that I was doing objectives and that it was the same thing as scientology's auditing. Staff members overherd me and sent me to a room. In this room there was every scientology book L Ron has written and the guy explained how religion can’t be part of any rehab. I personally gained a lot from books 4-7
@YouStoleMyShoe Are you a shitting insane Scientology buttfuck crook? Scientology's quack medical frauds the insane crims call "NarCONon" does not work. In fact it kills people and it stops drug abusers from getting real help from ACTUAL treatment.
Of course Scientology's crime bosses dno't want people to get actual help,. Your shitting insane masters are only after people's money.
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One more comment that I have to make it this Idiot doing the video sounds like a fucking robot and looks like he needs treatment for a drug addiction himself!
Scientologists, when confronted about the hypocrisy and criminal behavior of their "religion", often say things like "You need to do more research" or "The best way to find out about Sceintology is to go to one of our "orgs" or buy a book by L Ron Hubbard!"
Luckily, in today's world, information is spread freely and rapidly, and more and more people are finding out the truth about scientology; that it is a devious, harmful cult that preys on vulnerable people to make more money.Fuck scientology
You are absolutely right, Desertphile, that is why I got so angry at CrazyWolfe, who is obviously a scientologist by the videos he/she subscribes to.
I can't believe how many people take L Ron Hubbard's crap seriously, his drug-addled mind was incapable of even understanding psychiatry, yet he thinks he can reform drug addicts?
To be frank, Scientology is disgusting and devious, and Narconon is just another way they are manipulating vulnerable people into believing they need Scientology. Sad.
Okay Wolfe, i understand now; after looking at your profile and all your subscriptions to "Narconon News" etc, it is obvious you are either a scientologist or an absolute idiot who believes in the principles of Narconon.
NARCONON IS A RECRUITING METHOD FOR KOOKS LIKE YOU TO DRAG PEOPLE INTO THE WORTHLESS CULT THAT IS SCIENTOLOGY.
Unfortunately narCONon also hurts people, and prevents them from acquiring working treatment for drug addiction. Sadly, some states still fund the scam.
Sitting in a sauna does very little and could be fatal to someone withdrawing from heavy sedative or alcohol use. These people NEED to be medically withdrawn and monitored to make sure they don't have a grand mal seizure.
I withdrew from massive doses of Valium and opiates, had 3 seizures, and was in a hospital bed for 3 days when i finally detoxed
if i had been in a god damn sauna im pretty sure id be dead
What are you talking about? Check what facts? I have a year to go before I earn my B.S. In Pharmacology and I have successfully completed drug detox .
I think I know a bit about this subject. Also, when I was searching for detox I came across Narconon and was really pissed about their BS "sauna" program
so go fuck yourself buddy, my facts are straight and your head is up your ass
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You really do need to check your facts. A person does not go directly into the sauna. They successfully complete detox and see a doctor before going to sauna. DUH!!!!
What, just because you went through detox, does not make you an expert.
"Explain to me how the sauna is beneficial, you cunt."
Of course it is not. It is extremely dangerous--- people have died from narCONon. The sauna only removes salt and water from the body--- nothing more.
I dearly hope you take your own advice. Scientology kills people, and narCONon is one of the methods they use to kill people. It is very dangerous. If you have been subjected to the scam, please for your sake get your liver tested.
I went to Narconon Southern California & 97% of the staff are scam artist & pray on people also they know it. Some of your top people are making big time money being tied in with Scientology. Julie Bryant is a con artist thats works for southern Ca. & She is a sales person. Karma is a bitch for what this lady did. I almost died from the program & they didn't even call to check on me after they had my money. Sauna is good but this place is a scam.
I went to Narconon of northern california in 1998-1999. The program claims to be a non-profit organization but yet charges apx. $25,000 for a 3-5 month stay on average. And as far as the sauna treatment goes, you sit in a sauna at 160 degrees for five hours straight a day for the first month you're there to supposedly clean out your body of toxins. The rest of the program is 90% lunacy, that is all based on scientology "reprogramming of the mind" Oh yeah, the program didn't work for me either
Hey i would just like to say keep up the good work exposing narCONon and scientology. What i would like to know if scientologists think all these programs are so good why the hell do they have to hide the its scientology but under a different name?
Great video. Ill like to just say that if people check out both the sides they will find out everything in this video is true! Authorities wont even consider touching narCONon and doing studies on their techniques because they consider it so dangerous.
Anyone leaving negative comments on this video are scientologists! Look at both sides and youll agree that $cientology is very dangerous. It and its evil front groups!!
"what an incredible amount of adolescent bias, uninformed, just rant."
Translation: you were unable to spot any error in my video, and that frustrated you to such an extent that the best you could do in reply was to try an insult. How very sad your worthless cult Hubbardish life must be.
This is NOT A FACT. I had the opportunity to work at Narconon(after they saved my), and I AM NOT a Scientologist. Your a weird guy. I'm telling you that it works. I'm off drugs forever, and the sauna program is THE BEST!
I'm not a Scientologist pal, what are you talking about? I went to Narconon and they helped me save my life. I'm being honest with you. They didn't suggest I become Scientologist IN THE LEAST BIT. They actually frowned against people researching it while in rehab. Instead they took the time to try and understand why I was on drugs, and helped me find my spirituality. You are absolutely out of line to ridicule such a worthy cause as Narconon. You should be ashamed......
"I'm not a Scientologist pal, what are you talking about? I went...."
narCONon kills people: it's so-called "success rate" is worse than no drug addiction interdiction at all. Just deal with that fact, okay? No more cult Dev-T from you.
brian, you are simply a gullible person who didn't need drug rehab in the first place; you needed to find your spirituality YOURSELF, not let cult-kooks do it for you.
people that are withdrawing from heavy opiates and sedatives (which I did) could DIE from sitting in a sauna and not being medically withdrawn from the drugs
i called narconon before i went to detox, and as soon as they explained the program I laughed in their face, and later found a REAL detoxification facility
I did the program, it's a brainwashing and a psychological torture, i'm well now, but for a time i was alienated with Nazi concepts of the $cientology, i lived in Narconon the worst months of my life!
That's nuts! Scientology's quack medical fraud they call "NarCONon" not only doesn't work, it diverts people away from actual treatment while liberating at minimum $20,000 from their victims. Check out crackpotsDOTorg for details coverage of this criminal, quack medical fraud.
No, the Scientology crime syndicate charges a minimum of $20,000 for their worthless and extremely dangerous narCONon scam. Not only does narCONon not work, it *KILLS* PEOPLE.
"oh yeah... and it actually works so cant really be compared to your methadone or psychology waffle"
It "works" less than doing nothing. Scientology's fraud "works" about 6% of the time -- less than the 11% when peoplr do nothing. What's worse is the Scientology crime syndicate swindles some $20,000 out of people and leaves them still addicted -- and cultists in many cases.
NarcOnon (nar-CON-on) is a scientology recruiting station
Don't confuse Narconon with Narcanon. See what scientology did there? They changed one letter in the name and they're hoping you'll be confused by that. DON'T BE!
Applied Scholastics -aimed at the world's children, claiming to be secular, it's Hubbard "tech" with sci jargon & your tax dollars may be supporting it!
Narconon -not to be confused with NarcAnon!!
The Way to Happiness-Scientology's PR booklet trying to retell the golden rule, distributed often under deceptive backing from major corps that don't know what it is! (CocaCola pulled funding)
The crime syndicate agreed to dismantle their WISE mob network in exchange for reduced prison time--- and that was back in 1977! The Hubbard crime family refused to actually dismantle WISE even though they were ordered to do so.
Narconon can claim anything they want. Until they provide double-blind scientific studies as most programs must do--it's nothing more than bullhorn blowing.
It's part of the reason they hate psychiatrists. Because an academically trained research facility demands PROOF.
I saw their vid. Bollocks. Everyone had perfect skin and teeth. Decide for yourself.
"Is NarConon successful in thier treatment at all? what percentage?"
The only surveys done were done without the help of Scientology Inc., so the data was hard to come by. The best was 10% success rate, which is 1% lower than no intervention at all. The figure 6.6% is common among the other few studies. narCONon was so bad, the prison study in the USA called narCONon a "con."
"As far as real research goes--they don't have any."
Indeed, when I offered Scientology Inc. $100 for any data they might have that shows narCONon is beneficial, the crime syndicate refused: that is true of other people's attempts to get data from the criminal organization--- they are always ignored.
I went through several Narconon classes, including Second Chance, and they are A BIGGER JOKE THE CLASSES YOU PAY FOR. You are told to give yourself to god and admit you have no power over yourself, and that any kind of drug use is immoral, and that you need to take a vitamin regiment to cleanse yourself. They asked me to take a drug test, so I put a ton of powdered sugar around my nose and used some fluid that dialates pupils to mess with them. I was kicked out for using, no habeus corpus.
No, in narCONon one is not "told to give yourself to god." You must be thinking of a different group. narCONon is owned by and run by the Scientology crime syndicate: they do not believe in any gods.
Hmm... I dunno, they utilized many of the methods you mention, yet they also utilized the 12 step program- perhaps the people combined Narconon with some other method, or recieved training with Narconon people. I'm going to look into it, and if I find anything, I'll let you know, as I assume you would find it interesting, as I would, to know that Scientology is spreading even further into society, so sedately it would be overlooked. Damn L. Ron Hubbard, pretend-philanthropic pedophile bastard.
Hey Dphile, I'm in trouble with the Hubbardologists now! Since I'm a REAL addiction therapist, I've been badmouthing Narconon all over the Net. I was astonished to see another counselor actually recommend this fraud; I don't think she knew what she was saying - that NarCOnon isn't the same as NarcAnon (Narcotics Anonymous). Anyway, I got a few hate-mails saying that I've been "warned." Can you see me shaking in my shoes with fear??
ViennaTSO, it does not surprise me in the least that some people still do not know narCONon is Scientology. Some people also still think narCONon is Narcotics Anonymous, which is why Hubbard chose "narCONon" for his con.
To Makes me Angry: You are Right! I must educate my fellow addiction counselors about Narconon. I don't think most of them understand what Narconon really is.
Still Angry: (grin) You got it! My fellow addiction therapist didn't know the difference; I took the opportunity to enlighten her. I often publish in some of the addiction counseling academic journals; I feel an article coming to me! Yes, Hubbard named his so-called program to deliberately deceive others into thinking it was NarcAnon. Liar, lunatic, fraud, thief, killer; that's who invented Narconon. Nice recovery program.
I'm a harm reduction worker. I've seen them operate and they are dangerous beyond belief. I would never send a client there--it would be blatant malpractice on my part.
i am forced to agree scientology (narconon) is worthless and dangerous we sent our son there and paid $50000 to the cult and he came back utterly ruined. He was much worse narconon staff sold him any drugs he wanted (this was in Toronto) and they fed him garbage. he came back incoherant, babbling, and starving. Is there a support group for survivors of narconon?
I am not sure but I think your case was published on the 'net. Your son was sold heroine by a Narconon staff member and when he complained, the cult hauled him to a slum and dumped him at a broken-down motel to fend for himself, starving and pennyless. Is that your case? That was almost five years ago.
"He was much worse narconon staff sold him any drugs he wanted (this was in Toronto)...."
I read about that in Usenet: the crime syndicate does not give a shit about its narCONon victims, as long at those victims have money or labor the criminal organization can squeeze out of them. There have been reports of narCONon staff selling drugs in other locations.
To menotfree: I am so sorry to hear about your son. Have you considered a "cult de-programer?" I shudder to think how close I came to being a part of this dangerous fraud group; they couldn't cure the neighbor's dog! NOWHERE on the Stonehawk site do they mention Scientology; that's how I was lured into writing for them. Clever and deceitful, aren't they? I'll take any chance I get to trash Narconon/Stonehawk/Scientology. I reported all this to the National Writer's Union legal division.
There is an excellent article on the 'net called "Narconon Stone Hawk: The Ugly Truth" which you can find via Google search. There used to be a web site called "narcononsurvivor dot com" but it is gone. LiveJournal however has a support group for survivors of narCONon.
Thanks again, Dphile. I will find this article, believe me! I had to force Stone Hawk to pay me, but they can have their $650 back if they'll remove my articles from their site and return the copyright to me. I don't want my name associated with them in any way. They trick REAL addiction professionals into writing for them and it hurts my good reputation. I'm out for 'em, and will not stop.
Idiot, watch the video you stupid shit. Read my comments above, you fucking moron. NarCONon is *DANGEROUS!* and it DOES NOT WORK, regardless of if organized crime was not running the scam.
I'm a professional writer and nationally-certified addiction therapist. I was contacted by an agent of Narconon Stonehawk in Michigan to write 200 articles on drug rehabilitation. I wrote many articles, and was never paid the $650 owed to me. I discovered that Narconon IS based on Scientology and is extremely dangerous to the patient since many drugs, including alcohol, have a potentially fatal withdrawal syndrome. Don't be fooled like I was; have nothing to do with Narconon.
That is typical of all Scientology businesses: they put off paying their debts until they are either sued (which usually costs more than the debt is worth) or until the people they owe money to give up. Reports of vendors who have provided goods and services to the crime syndicate, just to have been left unpaid, are very common on the 'net. It usually takes tort litigation to get the mob to pay up.
True! I was too naive about Scientology, and was never told that Narconon had a damn thing to do with this cult. I refused to be cheated, so I searched for their agent who hired me, Matthew Wolf, until I found him on the net and wrote a "pay me or else" mail to his boss. Then I called Stonehawk and insisted on speaking to the boss re: copyright infringement since those articles legally belonged to me. Ten minutes later, I was paid via PayPal. It took threats to make them do the right thing.
The cult's Stonehawk facility has had a bloody hell of a lot of legal problems over the past 5 years and longer. They used Michigan prisoners as test rats for their narCONon scam (!!!!) until the Michigan Corrections Board discovered narCONon made addicted prisoners *WORSE* than no drug interdiction at all! Michigan's official report called narCONon a "con" and "a front for Scientology:" the report is at the narCONon Exposed web site.
Desertphile: God, how I wish I'd done my homework on Stonehawk! I violated my own prime directive: always investigate the client before accepting the job. I didn't know crap about Narconon, and had no idea that Scientology is at its root. I need to expose them in a "warning" article in one of my addiction therapy journals; do you have the URL of Narconon Exposed? Not only will I never be fooled again, I'll what I can to expose them for the frauds they are. Thanks!
Thanks, DP! Oh, I found Stone Hawk, all right; left a go-to-hell message they won't soon forget and offered to give them their money back for my articles. I let them know that they defrauded me by not revealing who and what they are, took advantage of my Master Addiction Counselor credentials and professional writing skills, and they can count me as one of their worst enemies. Like any writer, my weapon is the pen - and I intend to use it very liberally.
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Your WARNING is more than ridiculous. First of all Narconon is not Scientology. Scientology is a study of knowledge and life. Narconon is a rehab program that successfully gets people off drugs. Of course it uses discoveries by L Ron Hubbard. That's what makes it so successful. There is no secret about this.
Saying that the two are the same only shows your own muddled observations. If you and your hate monger friends were capable of observation you would see this as clearly as everybody else.
Actually it is. NarCONon is a criminal enterprise run by the Scientology crime syndicate. It is a fraud. It is organized crime.
Anyone can check the facts at Crackpots DOT Org if they have any illusions that NarCONon is anything other than another Scientology criminal fake front.
Lying about it in the age of the Internet is stupid. It's something that only insane cult fuckers who hate REAL drug treatment programs that actually work do.
Actually NarCONon _is_ Scientology. Denial is stupid given the advent of the Internet when anybody can check for themselves.
It's ironic how you insane kooks are embarrassed by the fact that NarCONon is Scientology. So much so the crime syndicate contrives fake names and tries to sneak it in everywhere.
The crime syndicate knows their quack medical frauds are for suckers and rubes only.
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Uh, what did you do? Take a "harass people who got off drugs holiday?" and post post post. Maybe if you repeat yourself enough it will be true, Hippy.
ArchiesStupidView: I am very rarely rude to people, but have to say that you are an absolute moron. Why don't you listen to what people are saying to you? Could you possibly be wrong about Narconon? Or are you too brainwashed by Hubbardology to accept the truth? I'm not a hate-monger, but I hate liars and their propaganda. Please get a grip on your wits before it's too late.
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My dear friend desertphile, I am not trying to insult you, just making an observation. You are drunk in that last video, I should know, as I do work with drug addicts and alcoholics. Your eyes are red, your speech and gestures are garrulous. You ok?
"You are drunk in that last video, I should know, as I do work...."
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
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No Dear Desertphile, you would not appreciate it, it would take away from your fun. Have fun dear Desertphile! You sound better, hope you are on the mend. Have you helped anyone today dear desert?
"No Dear Desertphile, you would not appreciate it, it ...."
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
I dislike blocking people. There are some people who are bloody insulting, in that they really do believe their obvious lies are not obvious: as if I an too stupid to know they are lying! The bastards.
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Angry man. or woman? Tssk tssk. I sign up under Enguerrand de Marigny or variations thereof. There are many people out there who have helped and been helped. Maybe people have been helped by Narconon? Maybe helped by Teen Challenge? Maybe Anger Management dear Makes? You should look into it. Anger will tear you up. Learn to breathe, dear Makes. Breathe. Breathe. Better?
"I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there."
The "Tech" used by Narconon is L.R.Hubert's tech.
watch?v=mrxfbdLLDJs
I wish I could find some other interviews, but as I recall there were issues with people in California not wanting to read Scientology books were dropped from the program, in one case sent to a crappy hooker motel with enough cash to... it was presumed, to buy drugs.
why do you continue to repeat this? It appears as though you are a Scientology spokesman. The more you "cut and past" the same words the less credibility you have.
keep up the good work, scientology wants to keep this secret so they can brainwash more people -thanks for fighting the good fight and getting the info out there.
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Nobody is perfect; but your cause would be greatly enhanced if you were a drug counselor, helping people get off drugs; working the streets to clean them up; volunteering at your church, volunteering at the YMCA, anything. For every person that dies because you forwarded your message and they didn't get help at a Narconon that could have saved their lives- thats on your conscience.
"Nobody is perfect; but your cause would be greatly enhanced if you were a...."
The crime syndicate doesn't have anything to do with "getting people off drugs:" their narCONon scam only exists to hurt and rob people. narCONon is *WORSE* than no drug intervention at all.
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Why are there Narconons in Middle East countries? Why? A: Because it must have SOME degree of success. B: It cannot by law in those countries have ANY religious overtones, undertones, any kind of tones.
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Desertphile: I am glad you like the desert, you sound like you live an interesting life. But you know and I know that someone using a philosophy or technique to help another doesn't necesarrily mean there are bad intentions present. If Narconon was connected to the Church of Scientology in such a bad way, why oh why would it be allowed in Eastern Block countries that are so anti-religion?
"For every person that dies because you forwarded your message and they didn't get help at a Narconon that could have saved their lives- thats on your conscience"
Woops! Scientology doesn't help ANYONE get off of drugs. Never has. Scientology's quack medical fraud detracts people from going to actual treatment.
Scientology's NarCONon fraud was contrived by Hubbard, a massively insane dope addict and drunk who had sexual problems. You'd be a fool to follow that crook in to insanity.
Human beings naturally release chemicals from their bodies all the time through an ancient process known as going to the toilet. Narconon is a scientology brainwashing facility, report them to GA authorities before more people are dupped!
"report them to GA authorities before more people are dupped"
You should check out what the insane crooks tried to do in Bowdon, Georgia. The Crackpots DOT Org web site covers details about how the insane criminals tried to sneak in to town under assumed names. We of the ASRCC kicked their fucking criminal asses out of town.
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
You flunked the IQ test. You are now in session: spot a spot!
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
"Why would I listen to a moron any longer that it took to spot it?"
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Yeah, you're PERFECTY fodder for the Scientology crime syndicate. They just love people like you -- brainless, unwilling to learn, and with money in your pockets.
I hope that they maim you with their quack medical frauds. Maybe then you'll wake up before they actually kill you with it.
Desertphile is absolutely correct. Narconon, Criminon, Co$ should be actively investigated. Members should not be allowed in any government capacity, much as communists weren't in the cold war.
Nobody wants lunatics running the asylum, not even the lunatics themselves.
"If you want to do a lot of drugs, have a lot of orgies, shoot a lot of guns, sacrifice babies to Satan, and steal billions of dollars, then write a scifi book, call it a religion and recruit millions of suckers."
"Then you are just as big a nutcase as this idiot"
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
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please make it clear that you are **NOT** talking about Nara-non which is for family members of NA just like Al-anon
okay...now i don't disagree with you, i don't know about this stuff, but you sound like a tin foil hate crazy. and i'm down with a bunch of other conspiracy theories (that have factual basis..and i'm not saying this doesn't) just sounds like it comin from you.(no offense)
I remember when I was using, the scientologists used to try and hook us in. I never took the bait. Fortunately a mate of mine was in NA, eventually he got me along to meetings where I found true sobriety.
I run the Crackpots DOT Org web site and some of the write ups I get on victims who were suckered in to Scientology's quack medical fraud NarCONon are so grossly disturbing that I always tell people they need to file criminal charges against the crime syndicate for what Scientology did to them.
Several have and usually they get their money back eventually.
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im an idiot?
A. you compared scientology to the mafia.
B. You're wearing a hat inside.
you're the idiot....jk...speak your mind man, Even if i disagree with you i'd much rather prefer to see someone voice it than keep quiet. I love the first amendment
Do a google on "eliot abelson scientology" and drag your fucking head out of L. Ron Hubbard's ass for a moment. Long enough to actually learn something about the dangerous crime syndicate.
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THEN DONT JOIN......give me a break, if someone really is so naive to be brainwashed into a group such as scientology maybe they deserve to be drained of their money. Focus your energy on this corrupt war on drugs, this cult run operation ruins lives do to the fact that people are sent away to jails, refused jobs all because they used, maybe they had a problem, maybe they just wanted to escape the stresses of life, but because of that...their whole life is gone, ruinned.
"if someone really is so naive to be brainwashed into a group such as scientology maybe they deserve to be drained of their money"
Can anybody play that game? I mean why not go out and rob banks and murder bank tellers since they're all stupid enough to work around large piles of money?
Amusing. This video was back when Creationist shit holes were using bots to rate videos 1 stars and then disliked.
MakesMeAngry 5 months ago
I wonder why this narconon gets such a bad rap and AA gets away with this shit? Narcotics Annonymous is also a cult.
somethingdiffereable 9 months ago
A whole years gone by and still no reply from this guy,,,
paulspydar 9 months ago
Dude are you joking? Get a job or something! You are absolutely bat shit crazy. People watching this, think for yourself! They use scientology techniques but it has nothing to do with making you follow the church. It works if you want to get off drugs which this guy obviously is having hard time doing.
I really feel bad for you bro... You are straight up ignorant and oblivious and you need help.
YouStoleMyShoe 1 year ago
@YouStoleMyShoe ; "Church?" What "church?" The subject is Scientology, not any religion. The Scientology crime syndicate's narCONon fraud kills people. Stay away from it.
Desertphile 1 year ago 2
@YouStoleMyShoe at Narconon there is a picture of L. Ron Hubbard in every single room. Not once in the program do the staff members talk about drugs and I was ther for 4 months. They do not push any church or on you at the rehab (they gave the option to go to christian churches on sundays)and it will work if you want it to work just like every rehab. I do not agree with the lack of medical attention that they give people there sauna is where they overdose people on niacin and make them sweat
janeskmk 7 months ago
But if one was to mention the idea of Narconon being involved with scientology in the rehab they kick you out. I was on the phone during a break and I told my dad that I was doing objectives and that it was the same thing as scientology's auditing. Staff members overherd me and sent me to a room. In this room there was every scientology book L Ron has written and the guy explained how religion can’t be part of any rehab. I personally gained a lot from books 4-7
janeskmk 7 months ago
@YouStoleMyShoe Are you a shitting insane Scientology buttfuck crook? Scientology's quack medical frauds the insane crims call "NarCONon" does not work. In fact it kills people and it stops drug abusers from getting real help from ACTUAL treatment.
Of course Scientology's crime bosses dno't want people to get actual help,. Your shitting insane masters are only after people's money.
MakesMeAngry 5 months ago
most of the links to the right that I clicked on are either dead (404) or are WOT ranked as "dangerous"
paulspydar 2 years ago
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One more comment that I have to make it this Idiot doing the video sounds like a fucking robot and looks like he needs treatment for a drug addiction himself!
neeley1987 2 years ago
Scientologists, when confronted about the hypocrisy and criminal behavior of their "religion", often say things like "You need to do more research" or "The best way to find out about Sceintology is to go to one of our "orgs" or buy a book by L Ron Hubbard!"
Luckily, in today's world, information is spread freely and rapidly, and more and more people are finding out the truth about scientology; that it is a devious, harmful cult that preys on vulnerable people to make more money.Fuck scientology
tch2296 3 years ago 6
You are absolutely right, Desertphile, that is why I got so angry at CrazyWolfe, who is obviously a scientologist by the videos he/she subscribes to.
I can't believe how many people take L Ron Hubbard's crap seriously, his drug-addled mind was incapable of even understanding psychiatry, yet he thinks he can reform drug addicts?
To be frank, Scientology is disgusting and devious, and Narconon is just another way they are manipulating vulnerable people into believing they need Scientology. Sad.
tch2296 3 years ago 4
Okay Wolfe, i understand now; after looking at your profile and all your subscriptions to "Narconon News" etc, it is obvious you are either a scientologist or an absolute idiot who believes in the principles of Narconon.
NARCONON IS A RECRUITING METHOD FOR KOOKS LIKE YOU TO DRAG PEOPLE INTO THE WORTHLESS CULT THAT IS SCIENTOLOGY.
You are an absolute idiot.
tch2296 3 years ago 4
Unfortunately narCONon also hurts people, and prevents them from acquiring working treatment for drug addiction. Sadly, some states still fund the scam.
Desertphile 3 years ago
Sitting in a sauna does very little and could be fatal to someone withdrawing from heavy sedative or alcohol use. These people NEED to be medically withdrawn and monitored to make sure they don't have a grand mal seizure.
I withdrew from massive doses of Valium and opiates, had 3 seizures, and was in a hospital bed for 3 days when i finally detoxed
if i had been in a god damn sauna im pretty sure id be dead
tch2296 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure you are dead! Since you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Check your facts again. DUH!!!!
WolfeCrazy1 3 years ago
What are you talking about? Check what facts? I have a year to go before I earn my B.S. In Pharmacology and I have successfully completed drug detox .
I think I know a bit about this subject. Also, when I was searching for detox I came across Narconon and was really pissed about their BS "sauna" program
so go fuck yourself buddy, my facts are straight and your head is up your ass
tch2296 3 years ago
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You really do need to check your facts. A person does not go directly into the sauna. They successfully complete detox and see a doctor before going to sauna. DUH!!!!
What, just because you went through detox, does not make you an expert.
WolfeCrazy1 3 years ago
Are you a scientologist dude? You sound like one. You also sound like a miserable cunt. Are you twelve years old, saying "DUH!" after every sentence?
You DO NOT see a doctor and complete detox first. I SPOKE TO NARCONON ABOUT THE PROGRAM before I found it it had anything to do with scientology.
I have experience with detox and I talked to Narconon, you are incorrect. I study drugs, withdrawal, and detox methods at University of California.
Explain to me how the sauna is beneficial, you cunt.
tch2296 3 years ago
"Explain to me how the sauna is beneficial, you cunt."
Of course it is not. It is extremely dangerous--- people have died from narCONon. The sauna only removes salt and water from the body--- nothing more.
Desertphile 3 years ago
"Check your facts again."
I dearly hope you take your own advice. Scientology kills people, and narCONon is one of the methods they use to kill people. It is very dangerous. If you have been subjected to the scam, please for your sake get your liver tested.
Desertphile 3 years ago
I suppose we will never know how many lives narCONon has ruined and how many people narCONon has maimed.
Giwohfi 3 years ago
I went to Narconon Southern California & 97% of the staff are scam artist & pray on people also they know it. Some of your top people are making big time money being tied in with Scientology. Julie Bryant is a con artist thats works for southern Ca. & She is a sales person. Karma is a bitch for what this lady did. I almost died from the program & they didn't even call to check on me after they had my money. Sauna is good but this place is a scam.
bmwguy21 3 years ago 4
Get a life!
WolfeCrazy1 3 years ago
Get a brain!
tch2296 3 years ago
Narconon is great! It brings in the cash so we can Keep Scientology Working!
Elaborate body route? Maybe. But sometimes someone gets off of drugs, and then we have a new revenue stream & some great PR!
We need to KSW and make money, make more money, and make people make money!
Narconon ROCKS!
NarcononSeattle 3 years ago 8
Don't worry, not everyone dies.
We help people get on course and KSW.
NarcononSeattle 3 years ago 3
sockpuppet Seattle
NarcononRocks 3 years ago
Nah.. just ever 10th person who tries Narconon.
CrazyDelaney 3 years ago 3
LOL - Narconon Seattle is the only truthful Narconon account on YouTube!
NarkAnon 3 years ago 4
I went to Narconon of northern california in 1998-1999. The program claims to be a non-profit organization but yet charges apx. $25,000 for a 3-5 month stay on average. And as far as the sauna treatment goes, you sit in a sauna at 160 degrees for five hours straight a day for the first month you're there to supposedly clean out your body of toxins. The rest of the program is 90% lunacy, that is all based on scientology "reprogramming of the mind" Oh yeah, the program didn't work for me either
cbriley26 3 years ago 6
Hey i would just like to say keep up the good work exposing narCONon and scientology. What i would like to know if scientologists think all these programs are so good why the hell do they have to hide the its scientology but under a different name?
NicNasty1981 3 years ago
Great video. Ill like to just say that if people check out both the sides they will find out everything in this video is true! Authorities wont even consider touching narCONon and doing studies on their techniques because they consider it so dangerous.
Anyone leaving negative comments on this video are scientologists! Look at both sides and youll agree that $cientology is very dangerous. It and its evil front groups!!
Slicolas 3 years ago
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what an incredible amount of adolescent bias, uninformed, just rant. get a real job.
cicerocicero6 3 years ago
FAIL. Check the links in the vid description, sockpuppet.
AnonRanGER01 3 years ago
"what an incredible amount of adolescent bias, uninformed, just rant."
Translation: you were unable to spot any error in my video, and that frustrated you to such an extent that the best you could do in reply was to try an insult. How very sad your worthless cult Hubbardish life must be.
Desertphile 3 years ago
This is NOT A FACT. I had the opportunity to work at Narconon(after they saved my), and I AM NOT a Scientologist. Your a weird guy. I'm telling you that it works. I'm off drugs forever, and the sauna program is THE BEST!
brian8793 3 years ago
Flunk! Unable to evaluate data! Do over: you are now in session. SPOT A SPOT.
By the way, the EP for OT8 is "Now that I have learned who I am not, I am ready to learn who I am." I just saved you US$380,000. You're welcome.
Desertphile 3 years ago
I'm not a Scientologist pal, what are you talking about? I went to Narconon and they helped me save my life. I'm being honest with you. They didn't suggest I become Scientologist IN THE LEAST BIT. They actually frowned against people researching it while in rehab. Instead they took the time to try and understand why I was on drugs, and helped me find my spirituality. You are absolutely out of line to ridicule such a worthy cause as Narconon. You should be ashamed......
brian8793 3 years ago
"I'm not a Scientologist pal, what are you talking about? I went...."
narCONon kills people: it's so-called "success rate" is worse than no drug addiction interdiction at all. Just deal with that fact, okay? No more cult Dev-T from you.
Desertphile 3 years ago
You know..placebos work for some people also. And weather you like it or not, narCONon is owned by The Church of $cientology
donoraen 3 years ago 2
brian, you are simply a gullible person who didn't need drug rehab in the first place; you needed to find your spirituality YOURSELF, not let cult-kooks do it for you.
people that are withdrawing from heavy opiates and sedatives (which I did) could DIE from sitting in a sauna and not being medically withdrawn from the drugs
i called narconon before i went to detox, and as soon as they explained the program I laughed in their face, and later found a REAL detoxification facility
tch2296 3 years ago
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Sweet! I dont think I have that kind of money anyway. Am I OT8 now? that was fast!I I can find out who I really am?
anonymousdouble07 3 years ago
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Still drinking I see...
anonymousdouble07 3 years ago
"Still drinking I see..."
Flunk! Unable to evaluate data! Do over: you are now in session. SPOT A SPOT.
By the way, the EP for OT8 is "Now that I have learned who I am not, I am ready to learn who I am." I just saved you US$380,000. You're welcome.
Desertphile 3 years ago
007 - we meet again.
Yet another $cilon drone attacking opponents of NarCONon - but of course one doesn't have to do anything with the other...
AnonRanGER01 3 years ago
I did the program, it's a brainwashing and a psychological torture, i'm well now, but for a time i was alienated with Nazi concepts of the $cientology, i lived in Narconon the worst months of my life!
Cinntra 3 years ago 2
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what a pile of bullshit
you so badly made that up, oh man
disseminator88008 3 years ago
That's nuts! Scientology's quack medical fraud they call "NarCONon" not only doesn't work, it diverts people away from actual treatment while liberating at minimum $20,000 from their victims. Check out crackpotsDOTorg for details coverage of this criminal, quack medical fraud.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago
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actually the minimum is 2500.
oh yeah... and it actually works so cant really be compared to your methadone or psychology waffle
disseminator88008 3 years ago
"actually the minimum is 2500."
No, the Scientology crime syndicate charges a minimum of $20,000 for their worthless and extremely dangerous narCONon scam. Not only does narCONon not work, it *KILLS* PEOPLE.
Desertphile 3 years ago
"oh yeah... and it actually works so cant really be compared to your methadone or psychology waffle"
It "works" less than doing nothing. Scientology's fraud "works" about 6% of the time -- less than the 11% when peoplr do nothing. What's worse is the Scientology crime syndicate swindles some $20,000 out of people and leaves them still addicted -- and cultists in many cases.
NotSoOldHippy 3 years ago 3
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Hm, strange... all of your favorites are PRO-$CIENTOLOGY - guess that proves the point. Thanks.
AnonRanGER01 3 years ago
Dangerous spam deleted; spammer "dsp32474" blocked; YouTube notified.
Desertphile 3 years ago
Everyone please head over to the channel of " narcononarrowhead " whose channel is chock full of videos you can comment on (for now)
Go tell them what you think of the business that put the CON in drug rehab
LindiVid 3 years ago 2
NarcOnon (nar-CON-on) is a scientology recruiting station
Don't confuse Narconon with Narcanon. See what scientology did there? They changed one letter in the name and they're hoping you'll be confused by that. DON'T BE!
NarcOnon = scientology front group
NarcAnon = medically supported drug rehab center
LindiVid 3 years ago 4
Scientology front groups alert!
W.I.S.E.- Doctors/Dentists/business professionals beware!
Applied Scholastics -aimed at the world's children, claiming to be secular, it's Hubbard "tech" with sci jargon & your tax dollars may be supporting it!
Narconon -not to be confused with NarcAnon!!
The Way to Happiness-Scientology's PR booklet trying to retell the golden rule, distributed often under deceptive backing from major corps that don't know what it is! (CocaCola pulled funding)
CCHR
LindiVid 3 years ago 2
The crime syndicate agreed to dismantle their WISE mob network in exchange for reduced prison time--- and that was back in 1977! The Hubbard crime family refused to actually dismantle WISE even though they were ordered to do so.
Desertphile 3 years ago
I thought that Narconon was like Alanon for AA....families of NA members...
recoverybytes 3 years ago
"I thought that Narconon was like Alanon for AA....families of NA members..."
That is not correct. narCONon is a department within Scientology Inc.
Desertphile 3 years ago
Indeed, you are correct except that narCONon does use drugs now and then: several victims have said so.
Desertphile 4 years ago
I used tons of drugs...er um...wait...that was before I got clean and sober.... ;)
recoverybytes 3 years ago
Narconon can claim anything they want. Until they provide double-blind scientific studies as most programs must do--it's nothing more than bullhorn blowing.
It's part of the reason they hate psychiatrists. Because an academically trained research facility demands PROOF.
I saw their vid. Bollocks. Everyone had perfect skin and teeth. Decide for yourself.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago 8
"... NarConon does not not agree with my own cognitive reasoning nor the established medical advice."
narCONon is in fact dangerous. So dangerous that medical researchers refuse to test it on people because of medical ethics and potential law suits.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"Is NarConon successful in thier treatment at all? what percentage?"
The only surveys done were done without the help of Scientology Inc., so the data was hard to come by. The best was 10% success rate, which is 1% lower than no intervention at all. The figure 6.6% is common among the other few studies. narCONon was so bad, the prison study in the USA called narCONon a "con."
Desertphile 4 years ago
They won't release proper, double blind data because they do collect anything but anecdotes.
As far as real research goes--they don't have any.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
"As far as real research goes--they don't have any."
Indeed, when I offered Scientology Inc. $100 for any data they might have that shows narCONon is beneficial, the crime syndicate refused: that is true of other people's attempts to get data from the criminal organization--- they are always ignored.
Desertphile 4 years ago
It's actually physically DANGEROUS to put someone who is in withdrawal into a sauna.
For drug users with Hep C vitamins can overload their livers' capacity to function.
If they are withdrawing from Valium/benzos or alcohol--they can go into seizures and DIE.
CORONORS PAY ATTENTION!!!
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
I went through several Narconon classes, including Second Chance, and they are A BIGGER JOKE THE CLASSES YOU PAY FOR. You are told to give yourself to god and admit you have no power over yourself, and that any kind of drug use is immoral, and that you need to take a vitamin regiment to cleanse yourself. They asked me to take a drug test, so I put a ton of powdered sugar around my nose and used some fluid that dialates pupils to mess with them. I was kicked out for using, no habeus corpus.
rootman1987 4 years ago
No, in narCONon one is not "told to give yourself to god." You must be thinking of a different group. narCONon is owned by and run by the Scientology crime syndicate: they do not believe in any gods.
Desertphile 4 years ago
Hmm... I dunno, they utilized many of the methods you mention, yet they also utilized the 12 step program- perhaps the people combined Narconon with some other method, or recieved training with Narconon people. I'm going to look into it, and if I find anything, I'll let you know, as I assume you would find it interesting, as I would, to know that Scientology is spreading even further into society, so sedately it would be overlooked. Damn L. Ron Hubbard, pretend-philanthropic pedophile bastard.
rootman1987 4 years ago
Hey Dphile, I'm in trouble with the Hubbardologists now! Since I'm a REAL addiction therapist, I've been badmouthing Narconon all over the Net. I was astonished to see another counselor actually recommend this fraud; I don't think she knew what she was saying - that NarCOnon isn't the same as NarcAnon (Narcotics Anonymous). Anyway, I got a few hate-mails saying that I've been "warned." Can you see me shaking in my shoes with fear??
Vienna
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 7
ViennaTSO, it does not surprise me in the least that some people still do not know narCONon is Scientology. Some people also still think narCONon is Narcotics Anonymous, which is why Hubbard chose "narCONon" for his con.
MakesMeAngry 4 years ago 5
To Makes me Angry: You are Right! I must educate my fellow addiction counselors about Narconon. I don't think most of them understand what Narconon really is.
Vienna
ViennaTSO 4 years ago
Still Angry: (grin) You got it! My fellow addiction therapist didn't know the difference; I took the opportunity to enlighten her. I often publish in some of the addiction counseling academic journals; I feel an article coming to me! Yes, Hubbard named his so-called program to deliberately deceive others into thinking it was NarcAnon. Liar, lunatic, fraud, thief, killer; that's who invented Narconon. Nice recovery program.
Vienna
Master Addiction Counselor (national-level credential)
ViennaTSO 4 years ago
AMEN ViennaTSO
I'm a harm reduction worker. I've seen them operate and they are dangerous beyond belief. I would never send a client there--it would be blatant malpractice on my part.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
If anyone in narCONon told you to "give yourself to god," they were not following Hubbard's mandate. Scientology teachers there are no gods.
MakesMeAngry 4 years ago 3
I'm surprised they didn't keep you and run up your credit card.
AnonOutreach 4 years ago
i am forced to agree scientology (narconon) is worthless and dangerous we sent our son there and paid $50000 to the cult and he came back utterly ruined. He was much worse narconon staff sold him any drugs he wanted (this was in Toronto) and they fed him garbage. he came back incoherant, babbling, and starving. Is there a support group for survivors of narconon?
menotfree 4 years ago 5
What did the police have to say about the abuse? Did you file a crime report?
WhatIsScientology 4 years ago 5
I am not sure but I think your case was published on the 'net. Your son was sold heroine by a Narconon staff member and when he complained, the cult hauled him to a slum and dumped him at a broken-down motel to fend for himself, starving and pennyless. Is that your case? That was almost five years ago.
notyoursister 4 years ago 3
"He was much worse narconon staff sold him any drugs he wanted (this was in Toronto)...."
I read about that in Usenet: the crime syndicate does not give a shit about its narCONon victims, as long at those victims have money or labor the criminal organization can squeeze out of them. There have been reports of narCONon staff selling drugs in other locations.
Desertphile 4 years ago
To menotfree: I am so sorry to hear about your son. Have you considered a "cult de-programer?" I shudder to think how close I came to being a part of this dangerous fraud group; they couldn't cure the neighbor's dog! NOWHERE on the Stonehawk site do they mention Scientology; that's how I was lured into writing for them. Clever and deceitful, aren't they? I'll take any chance I get to trash Narconon/Stonehawk/Scientology. I reported all this to the National Writer's Union legal division.
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 6
There is an excellent article on the 'net called "Narconon Stone Hawk: The Ugly Truth" which you can find via Google search. There used to be a web site called "narcononsurvivor dot com" but it is gone. LiveJournal however has a support group for survivors of narCONon.
Desertphile 4 years ago
Thanks again, Dphile. I will find this article, believe me! I had to force Stone Hawk to pay me, but they can have their $650 back if they'll remove my articles from their site and return the copyright to me. I don't want my name associated with them in any way. They trick REAL addiction professionals into writing for them and it hurts my good reputation. I'm out for 'em, and will not stop.
Vienna
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 11
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What if Narconon existed and did not use a book by Ron Hubbard? Would they be good in your books?
sealofandreas 4 years ago
"Would they be good in your books?"
Idiot, watch the video you stupid shit. Read my comments above, you fucking moron. NarCONon is *DANGEROUS!* and it DOES NOT WORK, regardless of if organized crime was not running the scam.
Desertphile 4 years ago
I'm a professional writer and nationally-certified addiction therapist. I was contacted by an agent of Narconon Stonehawk in Michigan to write 200 articles on drug rehabilitation. I wrote many articles, and was never paid the $650 owed to me. I discovered that Narconon IS based on Scientology and is extremely dangerous to the patient since many drugs, including alcohol, have a potentially fatal withdrawal syndrome. Don't be fooled like I was; have nothing to do with Narconon.
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 5
".... and was never paid the $650 owed to me."
That is typical of all Scientology businesses: they put off paying their debts until they are either sued (which usually costs more than the debt is worth) or until the people they owe money to give up. Reports of vendors who have provided goods and services to the crime syndicate, just to have been left unpaid, are very common on the 'net. It usually takes tort litigation to get the mob to pay up.
NMEASage 4 years ago 6
True! I was too naive about Scientology, and was never told that Narconon had a damn thing to do with this cult. I refused to be cheated, so I searched for their agent who hired me, Matthew Wolf, until I found him on the net and wrote a "pay me or else" mail to his boss. Then I called Stonehawk and insisted on speaking to the boss re: copyright infringement since those articles legally belonged to me. Ten minutes later, I was paid via PayPal. It took threats to make them do the right thing.
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 6
The cult's Stonehawk facility has had a bloody hell of a lot of legal problems over the past 5 years and longer. They used Michigan prisoners as test rats for their narCONon scam (!!!!) until the Michigan Corrections Board discovered narCONon made addicted prisoners *WORSE* than no drug interdiction at all! Michigan's official report called narCONon a "con" and "a front for Scientology:" the report is at the narCONon Exposed web site.
Desertphile 4 years ago
Desertphile: God, how I wish I'd done my homework on Stonehawk! I violated my own prime directive: always investigate the client before accepting the job. I didn't know crap about Narconon, and had no idea that Scientology is at its root. I need to expose them in a "warning" article in one of my addiction therapy journals; do you have the URL of Narconon Exposed? Not only will I never be fooled again, I'll what I can to expose them for the frauds they are. Thanks!
Vienna
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 6
Howdy. Narconon Exposed is at
ht tp : // narconon-exposed . org
There is also Stop Narconon:
ht tp : // stop-narconon . org
One must remove the spaces in the URL's of course.
Desertphile 4 years ago
Thanks, DP! Oh, I found Stone Hawk, all right; left a go-to-hell message they won't soon forget and offered to give them their money back for my articles. I let them know that they defrauded me by not revealing who and what they are, took advantage of my Master Addiction Counselor credentials and professional writing skills, and they can count me as one of their worst enemies. Like any writer, my weapon is the pen - and I intend to use it very liberally.
Vienna
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 5
"You dumb fuck! You cheap,loathsome,2nd rate pseudo-intellectual left wing liberal maggot poseur"
This is your brain on Scientology, folks.
Looks a lot like Tom Cruise, huh?
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 7
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Your WARNING is more than ridiculous. First of all Narconon is not Scientology. Scientology is a study of knowledge and life. Narconon is a rehab program that successfully gets people off drugs. Of course it uses discoveries by L Ron Hubbard. That's what makes it so successful. There is no secret about this.
Saying that the two are the same only shows your own muddled observations. If you and your hate monger friends were capable of observation you would see this as clearly as everybody else.
Archiesview 4 years ago
"First of all Narconon is not Scientology."
Lie detected: FLUNK! You are now in session--- spot a spot.
I do not allow you cultists to lie in my channel.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"First of all Narconon is not Scientology"
Actually it is. NarCONon is a criminal enterprise run by the Scientology crime syndicate. It is a fraud. It is organized crime.
Anyone can check the facts at Crackpots DOT Org if they have any illusions that NarCONon is anything other than another Scientology criminal fake front.
Lying about it in the age of the Internet is stupid. It's something that only insane cult fuckers who hate REAL drug treatment programs that actually work do.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 6
"First of all Narconon is not Scientology"
Actually NarCONon _is_ Scientology. Denial is stupid given the advent of the Internet when anybody can check for themselves.
It's ironic how you insane kooks are embarrassed by the fact that NarCONon is Scientology. So much so the crime syndicate contrives fake names and tries to sneak it in everywhere.
The crime syndicate knows their quack medical frauds are for suckers and rubes only.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 8
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Uh, what did you do? Take a "harass people who got off drugs holiday?" and post post post. Maybe if you repeat yourself enough it will be true, Hippy.
aryanovia 4 years ago
"Uh, what did you do? Take a "harass people who got off drugs holiday?"
Non sequitur. He was not harassing anyone; also, he was calling a lair a liar.
Desertphile 4 years ago
ArchiesStupidView: I am very rarely rude to people, but have to say that you are an absolute moron. Why don't you listen to what people are saying to you? Could you possibly be wrong about Narconon? Or are you too brainwashed by Hubbardology to accept the truth? I'm not a hate-monger, but I hate liars and their propaganda. Please get a grip on your wits before it's too late.
ViennaTSO 4 years ago 7
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My dear friend desertphile, I am not trying to insult you, just making an observation. You are drunk in that last video, I should know, as I do work with drug addicts and alcoholics. Your eyes are red, your speech and gestures are garrulous. You ok?
enguerrandmarigny 4 years ago
"You are drunk in that last video, I should know, as I do work...."
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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No Dear Desertphile, you would not appreciate it, it would take away from your fun. Have fun dear Desertphile! You sound better, hope you are on the mend. Have you helped anyone today dear desert?
EnguerranddeM 4 years ago
"No Dear Desertphile, you would not appreciate it, it ...."
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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Hey dude! Wassup? You are so wasted in that last video! You ok man? Hey don't block me man!
enguerrandmarigny 4 years ago
"Hey dude! Wassup? You are so wasted in t...."
Instead of just trying to insult me, if you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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I have been able to hold down a job and give back to society.
All I know is, Narconon has worked for me, when no other treatment had helped.
UserDallas 4 years ago
blocked for a week... LOL good one Desertphile!
SciFientology 4 years ago 2
I dislike blocking people. There are some people who are bloody insulting, in that they really do believe their obvious lies are not obvious: as if I an too stupid to know they are lying! The bastards.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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Great job Dallas keep up the good work!
enguerrandmarigny 4 years ago
"Great job Dallas keep up the good work!"
Talking to yourself is a sign of mental illness. Check your Body Thetans dude: you're fucking NUTS.
MakesMeAngry 4 years ago 5
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Angry man. or woman? Tssk tssk. I sign up under Enguerrand de Marigny or variations thereof. There are many people out there who have helped and been helped. Maybe people have been helped by Narconon? Maybe helped by Teen Challenge? Maybe Anger Management dear Makes? You should look into it. Anger will tear you up. Learn to breathe, dear Makes. Breathe. Breathe. Better?
EnguerranddeM 4 years ago
"Angry man. or wom....."
No, he appears to be 100% correct. You are a nutcase.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there.
However, I would like to tell you my experiences with Narconon.
Almost three years ago, I went into Narconon program. I stayed in treatment for 4 months.
Since coming home to my wife and children, I have remain alcohol and drugs free!
I have been able to hold down a job and give back to society.
All I know is, Narconon has worked for me, when no other treatment had helped.
UserDallas 4 years ago
"I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there."
That is, of course, a lie. NarConon *IS* Scientology.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there."
The "Tech" used by Narconon is L.R.Hubert's tech.
watch?v=mrxfbdLLDJs
I wish I could find some other interviews, but as I recall there were issues with people in California not wanting to read Scientology books were dropped from the program, in one case sent to a crappy hooker motel with enough cash to... it was presumed, to buy drugs.
The Tom Cruise video covers their detox program.
IGExpandingPanda 4 years ago 4
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I would like to add a true responds to this video. I can-not tell you is Narconon is or is not part of scientology.
I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there.
However, I would like to tell you my experiences with Narconon.
Almost three years ago, I went into Narconon program. I stayed in treatment for 4 months.
Since coming home to my wife and children, I have remain alcohol and drugs free!
UserDallas 4 years ago
why do you continue to repeat this? It appears as though you are a Scientology spokesman. The more you "cut and past" the same words the less credibility you have.
goobergel 4 years ago 5
"why do you continue to repeat this?"
Cult victims are required to write their "wins" even when they have to make them up out of their imaginations.
MakesMeAngry 4 years ago 4
"I was never exposed to any kind of scientology when there"
If you went through Scientology's "NarCONon" scam, then yes, you were subjected to Scientology.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 4
keep up the good work, scientology wants to keep this secret so they can brainwash more people -thanks for fighting the good fight and getting the info out there.
stocktakerbillybob 4 years ago 4
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Nobody is perfect; but your cause would be greatly enhanced if you were a drug counselor, helping people get off drugs; working the streets to clean them up; volunteering at your church, volunteering at the YMCA, anything. For every person that dies because you forwarded your message and they didn't get help at a Narconon that could have saved their lives- thats on your conscience.
enguerrandm 4 years ago
"Nobody is perfect; but your cause would be greatly enhanced if you were a...."
The crime syndicate doesn't have anything to do with "getting people off drugs:" their narCONon scam only exists to hurt and rob people. narCONon is *WORSE* than no drug intervention at all.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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Why are there Narconons in Middle East countries? Why? A: Because it must have SOME degree of success. B: It cannot by law in those countries have ANY religious overtones, undertones, any kind of tones.
enguerrandm 4 years ago
"Why are there Narconons in Middle East countries?"
Why are there criminal mobs in Middle East countries?
Desertphile 4 years ago
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Desertphile: I am glad you like the desert, you sound like you live an interesting life. But you know and I know that someone using a philosophy or technique to help another doesn't necesarrily mean there are bad intentions present. If Narconon was connected to the Church of Scientology in such a bad way, why oh why would it be allowed in Eastern Block countries that are so anti-religion?
enguerrandm 4 years ago
because scientology isn't recognized as a religion everywhere. and who knows--soon it may not be in america.
RobertDoosh 4 years ago 4
"For every person that dies because you forwarded your message and they didn't get help at a Narconon that could have saved their lives- thats on your conscience"
Woops! Scientology doesn't help ANYONE get off of drugs. Never has. Scientology's quack medical fraud detracts people from going to actual treatment.
Scientology's NarCONon fraud was contrived by Hubbard, a massively insane dope addict and drunk who had sexual problems. You'd be a fool to follow that crook in to insanity.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 4
Human beings naturally release chemicals from their bodies all the time through an ancient process known as going to the toilet. Narconon is a scientology brainwashing facility, report them to GA authorities before more people are dupped!
AnonFTLD 4 years ago 9
"report them to GA authorities before more people are dupped"
You should check out what the insane crooks tried to do in Bowdon, Georgia. The Crackpots DOT Org web site covers details about how the insane criminals tried to sneak in to town under assumed names. We of the ASRCC kicked their fucking criminal asses out of town.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 3
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It it looks like a moron, if it talks like a moron, if it acts like a moron. Guess what? yup. You got it, It's a moron.
You exposed yourself in the first 5 seconds. I never bothered to listen any longer. Get a life moron.
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hear hear!
enguerrandm 4 years ago
"hear hear!"
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"I never bothered to listen any longer."
You flunked the IQ test. You are now in session: spot a spot!
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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I passed the IQ test in 5 seconds. Why would I listen to a moron any longer that it took to spot it?
Archiesview 4 years ago
"Why would I listen to a moron any longer that it took to spot it?"
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"I never bothered to listen any longer"
Yeah, you're PERFECTY fodder for the Scientology crime syndicate. They just love people like you -- brainless, unwilling to learn, and with money in your pockets.
I hope that they maim you with their quack medical frauds. Maybe then you'll wake up before they actually kill you with it.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 4
Desertphile is absolutely correct. Narconon, Criminon, Co$ should be actively investigated. Members should not be allowed in any government capacity, much as communists weren't in the cold war.
Nobody wants lunatics running the asylum, not even the lunatics themselves.
Chronusmcgee 4 years ago 9
great video ... with the internet going this way this cult will be out of comition soon enuf
fwdyd 4 years ago 7
Thanks Phil, for the useful clips.
Tristan921 4 years ago 5
"If you want to do a lot of drugs, have a lot of orgies, shoot a lot of guns, sacrifice babies to Satan, and steal billions of dollars, then write a scifi book, call it a religion and recruit millions of suckers."
-Elron Hubbard (666 The Beast aka Satan)
apolloscam 4 years ago
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why are you wearing as hat indoors?
crazy87jim 4 years ago
i think this is awesome, wow
laurabluezone 4 years ago 6
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Then you are just as big a nutcase as this idiot
Archiesview 4 years ago
"Then you are just as big a nutcase as this idiot"
If you spotted anything I said in this video that is wrong, by all means please do tell me what the error(s) is/are. I will very much appreciate it. Thank you.
Desertphile 4 years ago
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please make it clear that you are **NOT** talking about Nara-non which is for family members of NA just like Al-anon
okay...now i don't disagree with you, i don't know about this stuff, but you sound like a tin foil hate crazy. and i'm down with a bunch of other conspiracy theories (that have factual basis..and i'm not saying this doesn't) just sounds like it comin from you.(no offense)
f0udini 4 years ago
Golly, go thing nobody gives a flying shit what your opinion is, ain't it?
Desertphile 4 years ago
I remember when I was using, the scientologists used to try and hook us in. I never took the bait. Fortunately a mate of mine was in NA, eventually he got me along to meetings where I found true sobriety.
Ninyae1 4 years ago 5
I went through the Narconon program. it is ABSOLUTELY Scientology!!! I have SO many crazy, sick stories. Very, VERY dangerous!
19732207NFJ 4 years ago 10
"it is ABSOLUTELY Scientology!"
I run the Crackpots DOT Org web site and some of the write ups I get on victims who were suckered in to Scientology's quack medical fraud NarCONon are so grossly disturbing that I always tell people they need to file criminal charges against the crime syndicate for what Scientology did to them.
Several have and usually they get their money back eventually.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 5
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tom cruise the prophet is much against the hate you spew...now excuse me while i go and read from my sci-fi collection.
fromthemindofAD 4 years ago
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im an idiot?
A. you compared scientology to the mafia.
B. You're wearing a hat inside.
you're the idiot....jk...speak your mind man, Even if i disagree with you i'd much rather prefer to see someone voice it than keep quiet. I love the first amendment
fromthemindofAD 4 years ago
"you compared scientology to the mafia."
Scientology is organized crime; Scientology Inc. is a international crime syndicate.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"you compared scientology to the mafia"
Do a google on "eliot abelson scientology" and drag your fucking head out of L. Ron Hubbard's ass for a moment. Long enough to actually learn something about the dangerous crime syndicate.
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 4
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THEN DONT JOIN......give me a break, if someone really is so naive to be brainwashed into a group such as scientology maybe they deserve to be drained of their money. Focus your energy on this corrupt war on drugs, this cult run operation ruins lives do to the fact that people are sent away to jails, refused jobs all because they used, maybe they had a problem, maybe they just wanted to escape the stresses of life, but because of that...their whole life is gone, ruinned.
fromthemindofAD 4 years ago
"THEN DONT |SIC| JOIN."
So, if you object to the Mafia you should just ignore it? Idiot.
Desertphile 4 years ago
"if someone really is so naive to be brainwashed into a group such as scientology maybe they deserve to be drained of their money"
Can anybody play that game? I mean why not go out and rob banks and murder bank tellers since they're all stupid enough to work around large piles of money?
NotSoOldHippy 4 years ago 3
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"So people should just ignore the crimes and human rights abuses of a criminal business?"
criminal business? Hahahaha, what about the "war on drugs" now thats a criminal business.
what has scientology done to people, not allow them to take their meds, who chose to join?
fromthemindofAD 4 years ago
"criminal business?"
Yes, the Scientology crime syndicate. They should NOT be "left alone."
Desertphile 4 years ago