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  • Im the biggest Irish fan! haha you two are so funny,

    Ta me Gra leat !

  • You beavers are da bomb keep up the good work gals , big holla from Scotland u sexy beavers ; ) x

  • the statistical truth is.. more people choose to stay in the closet than come out.. meaning they're are more people in the closet than out. WOW. Staggering

  • So this message is a little late but my pride goal was to run into you guys at San Diego pride... unfortunately I was a little bit too drunk to remember my mission. Hella pissed!

  • my experience was horrible when coming out.

    I told my mom and she felt i literally petrayed her due to the fact that my dad cheated on her with a lesbian. (she went straight for my dad?) In the end, she wouldn't talk to me. Wouldn't let me talk to anyone, at all including my little sister. In the end, i took it all back. Just so I could feel love from her again.

    I told my friends and everyone, including my partner at the time i was straight. I'm convinced i am now. Cuz it was the worst.

  • I definitely relate to Undine. I'm in the same situation. I'm sure that I couldn't financially support myself and I worry about being physically attacked if I were to come out at home. Personally, I've decided to definitely not come out until I'm out of the house and have a steady career. Beyond that...I don't know...I may never tell my family partly because I know my Dad would think I'd purposely betrayed him or live the rest of his life trying to repent for raising a gay daughter.

  • i have the same problem...im saving up so i can move out. im in texas and have religious conservative parents so coming out to them would end really bad.

  • Yeah no kidding. My mother's fine, her sister is bisexual, but my dad's definitely not. And we live in Utah...you know...the state with the Mormon church that donated huge funds for Prop 8? It's such a pitty. Average LDS (what Mormons call themselves) are the sweetest people I've ever met but...their church tells them they can't support us. I wish I knew where there might be a safe house here but I can't seem to find any. I hope you have a safe house or something in Texas. You should look it up.

  • love looks good on you,

    congrats.

    we all tumble in the same direction, toward the same destination, having someone "___ ",

    fill in the blank.

    if your mind can't comprehend the

    situation, use your heart

    till you catch-up.

    sorry, OT

  • the part that hit home the most was when you mentioned how undine just loves her family. its a question of, ruin family life or ruin self happiness with relationships and whatnot. i dont know if i would ever tell my parents, just because i love them too much to put them through all of that. thanks jess, probably the best words i've recieved via youtube. :3

  • JESS WHERE does mary B. get her jeans?!?!?!

  • Well done Jess! Your advice was very open and honest and I think all people should learn how to do it just like that. Kudos. Hope your pride weekend was bomb...I'm stuck on deployment but, only for another month! Woo Woo!

  • It is a tough subject but the peace of mind and spirit that comes with being out and authentic is unlike any other. Have a GREAT Pride week!

  • Right on Jess! I planned to come out after I moved out for those reasons, and I think that is the best plan. If you are afraid you will be left on your own, then you need to find the ability and strength to make it on your own. In my case, my mom asked me before I was ready and I would not lie to her so I came out despite my plan to wait. This was not at all "fun" at the time and it hasn't been an easy time since, but at least I can say it wasn't as bad as I imagined, I was not kicked out.

  • 1 more thing... that reminds me of a quote i read on like .. photobucket or something

    "Be yourself, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."

    :3

    thats all!

  • I think A. A. Milne said that. Great quote.

  • I would definitely say for myself.. it would be much harder to pretend to be straight... and living that way for your entire life.. it messes up peoples minds. it trains that person to lie..so that they can never really be honest with anybody in their life. If you're gay, come out.. slowly, quickly, once you are comfortable it feels amazing. I came out 3 years ago..i was 14.. to my mom and anyone else who asks. Do what makes you happy. And if the people who matter really love you, they wont care

  • I think its a case by case basis. You know your own situation and you should be able to gauge your families and friends reactions. I agree with jess,never put yourself in a situation where you may become homeless or harmed. If you're in college and your folks are paying for it. Take that into consideration as well. Look for a "safe space" check online for community centers in your area that serve serve the LGBTQ Community. Stay Strong. Live & Love . Smile Often.

    Shera

  • Life is short enough sometime as it is, so go for it and be happy COME OUT. I did and have never looked back. ;o)

  • right. people change.. but people also adjust either they like it or not. and thats not a total change.

  • If anyone of you can read Norwegian (or Swedish or Danish, since that's pretty much alike), I definitely recommend the book called "Bedre død enn homofil?" (something like "Better dead than gay?"), which is written by a man (Arnfinn Nordbø) who grew up in a very conservative Christian community who came out as gay. A fantastic book, and I really hope they will publish it in English as well!

  • i almost outed myself today to a guy at work when i referred to gay people as "we". i just awkwardly laughed and walked away, though i wouldn't really care if anyone found out.

  • great advice although i wish things were different for me cuz i come from a religious muslim family and we are not allowed to move out till marriage (and we get married by arranged marriage) and i obviously dont want to marry a guy since im a lesbian and have to stay in the closet for the rest of my life but my only other choice is to runaway which i think is definitely the harder decision since i dont want to loose my family

    so for now i think i'll just roam the closet in search of narnia :)

  • Ah that sounds terrible :( I wish you luck whatever your choice may be. Hopefully if you choose to come out your family will come around eventually

  • thanks :)

    but whatever this is life and i guess theres no point in fussing over it cuz when the time comes to choose i'll just deal with it then and just try to enjoy things now

  • Is it cold in San Diego?

  • well said.. thank you... Ive faced a few of these challenges myself and I'm not out of the closet because of so.

  • what is that "feeeeep" noise in the background?

  • probably the mic fucking up

  • it's like that on almost all of my videos. the program needs updating, the computer needs to be "cleaned", and i don't have time to figure out a quick fix.

  • awesome vid Jess as always! and say hi to Mary B!!

    Please in your next vid can you say Happy Birthday to me?? :)

  • i've been trying to post a video response...having issues though

    great video (:

  • RE: 07.13.09 let me recruit you...coming out to homophobic parents

    this is the name of my video response if anyone is interested

  • Big love Jess! I think Lu would maybe be good at answering this, a lot of her vids on her personal channel are related to religion and Christianity concerning gays.

  • that was good advice! :) on this topic...what I don't understand is that sertian people can express themselvs and be who they are and live there lives the way they want and others can't. My point is that a gay person and a religus preast expressing themselvs are the same thing! who is to say that one is write and the other is wrong!...it is a confusing topic...but this is my point of view :).......we all have our own beliefs!!

    (I know I can not spell, lol)

  • you're absolutely right - great comment. (don't worry about the spelling - you did fine)

  • Why does 'strong religious tradition' seem to always mean homophobic? Why can't a strong religious tradition mean open and accepting?

    It's depressing really.

  • Sometimes it does. My gf's family are devout Catholics and they have been nothing but wonderful to her and me (and I'm Jewish too!)

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  • yeah i know what you mean, when i came out to my grandma she just gave me the silent treatment. she didn't even look at me, just continued to do the dishes while she was staring distinctively at the cupboard door. i think it was her way to not make a big deal out of it, or at least tried to, but it would have been nice if she had said something. just something. i couldn't read her mind at all and that made me insecure. i was freakin nervous before i managed to tell her. & then, not even a word?

  • nooooooooo im the bigest fan from ireland lol

  • For this I will refrain from comment and post a video response tomorrow...best thing I can think to do cuz this topic is HUGE and I have much to say.

    I will say however...Great advice Jess, the way you worded it was perfect. Have fun at Pride!!! Hope yours is as great as mine was.

  • Thanks,this was a beautiful vid for reasons beyond my comprehension,but it definitely made me feel great about my own life,and I loved it! You're just a wonderful individual Jess, so thanks again! Wishing you an awesome time at Pride!!!: )

  • Great video Jess! I have several articles and such that have been very helpful for me and the whole "religious" aspect of being gay. My family is very conservative and religious and my biggest fear was coming out to them. If anyone would like these, just let me know. A great documentary to watch is called: the bible tells me so.  Thanks again Jess and have a great weekend!!

  • I know how you feel, specially about loving your parents too much and being afraid of disappoint them. But, if they mean that much to you, it's because they're good people after all. Maybe they'll be cool about it with time.

  • I came out to my mom via text message. It was a spontaneous and foolhardy library text that didn't turn out too badly. my mom told my father who said he wasn't surprised and is extremely cool with it. my mom still thinks it's a phase but seems okay with it. I definitely agree that it's best to wait until you have some independence before coming out. I waited until I was living in a college rez hall before telling my parents.

  • I also came out to my mom via text message...it did NOT turn out so well lol. glad yours did :D

  • jess, you're sooooooo adorable. i would come to san diego this weekend but tickets cost like 500 dollars :/

  • Great advice Jess about staying in until you can move out and support yourself (In her situation). I think people just have to do what feels right for them.

    Can't wait to meet you, MaryB and the rest of the beavs this weekend!!!

  • honestly, its kinda easier being "outed" then to come out. i was outed in school (a catholic school) and most people were actually really cool with it. i just had "OMG are you really a lesbian?!" for a few weeks. i came out to my father, and he said he already knew and he was actually really happy because he didnt have to deal with boys (my twin sister drove him mad bringing home boys) and my mother pretends to be ok with it (but she occasionally slips up with a not very nice comment).

  • I would love nothing more than to come out and finally be myself. I just love my parents way too much and always put my feelings first. I am their only child and they are looking forward to grandchildren in the future and a son in law. Therefore, nobody knows. You gave the best advice Jess. I will wait till I can make it on my own and then come out. Thanks!! <3

  • tough subject Jess, but you did really well. That was great advice

  • Great vid jess happy pride week!

  • i love my parents so much that i cant come out. i know it would hurt them and i choose to be something im not because i know (i think) they wont accept me. im waiting it out, it sucks, almost 3 more yrs untill i graduate university (i cant afford school and living on my own). its the worst feeling in the world when i deny who i am. i contiune to deny myself because i dont want to lose them. shouldnt they love me for who i am? im not sure if they will.

  • hey - i know how you feel, im in the sam boat... hang in there! xo

  • Fear has a lot to answer for. Fear of not being accepted by family and friends. Fear of hurting those we love, and in by doing so, sacrificing our own happiness. Its a crazy world, but sound advice, again from you Jess, helps make it less so. Thanks :)

  • My parents basically ignore the fact that I'm gay. They aren't comfortable talking about it, so they just don't. My mom knows, my dad assumes I've "gotten over the phase" and I have to hide my gfs. I tried being with a guy, it didn't work. I just can't force myself to be something I'm not because my parents don't approve. If they don't like the fact that I'm gay...Well, too bad. I can't nor am I gonna try to change.

  • @djxthexmonferno I agree. My mother keeps trying to hook me up with guys. I've come out many times, but they still refuse to listen. (LISTEN!) Please be strong.

  • i adore that painting :D

  • Yeah making a living first before telling your parents is good advice. You don't want to end up in the street in case they kick you out. It does happen unfortunately.

  • Undine is pronounced un dean. Un like undone, dean like the dean of the college.

    It's a water nymph. :3

  • I love listening to u guys! I just came out in april and still only a handful of people know. Everyone is totally fine with it, which makes me think that telling everyone else is goin to be as easy. But I know thas surely not the case. We'll see! :) O and how was Connecticut? I might travel out that way with my job soon.

  • I'm a bigger irish fan..¬.¬' lol

  • I think living a lie would be the worst thing possible. Ive heard stories of many people who tried living a straight life style and it really never works in the end. Its more difficult now to face facts and come out but in time it gets easier, sooner than expected.. and much better in the long run.

  • sry you have to read it from down to up=/! SRY!

  • Coming out is really something difficult, for all the people involved. You love your parents and you want them to be proud of you. Parents imagine this whole future for you and of course there is the husband and the children in this future.

  • Its like part of their world is lost, but you should make it clear to them, that you will still have a loving partner, a person that will love you and try everything to make you happy and that they can still have grandchildren. The world will be a little bit more difficult for you then it is now living in the closet, but there are also a lot of great people out there, like Jess and the beaver bunch and a lot more people you havent meat.

  • The world is getting more colorful every year and perhaps your parents will surprise you! At the end everybody should do, what they feel is right and nobody should be judge by their choice!

  • Thank you so much for this video.

  • very well said!! personally, i'm slowly inching my way out but before this summer i was still trying to make something out of nothing with guy friends. i dated some amazing guys but even with them life was just tolerable. i couldn't imagine spending a whole life time like that...it seriously just eats away at your soul.

  • Good advice, sensitively delivered.

  • Jess=extra helpful! =]

  • great advice jess.. i'm so glad that i have come out to my parents, it does make a difference and not have to comform with the hetero life style. i don't know if i could live with myself like that. but, i still need to come out to my friends, which i feel like i'm going to sometime this month. i think coming out to my parents first really was the biggest step of coming out, so i think it kinda makes it easier to come out to someone else (like friends).

    can't wait to c all the vids this week!

  • that was really great advice, and i totally feel like if you dont feel comfortable coming out, dont do it. but i got forced to come out to my parents by my school :/ something happened whilst i was on a school trip in my last year of school with this girl and school said they have to report it to school. i wish i never had to come out that way!

  • I think pretending to be something you're not is cheating the world of meeting an amazing person. Especially if you marry a man but you already know you don't love them. Marriage whether heterosexual or homosexual is gonna be tough enough already when you are in love with the person, if you don't love them... Just think of other people's feelings.

  • Very good advice Jess. I always love hearing your opinion on these things.

  • Jess you're so awesome. thanks for this, this is like exactly what i'm dealing with right now. AND i will be at Pride this weekend! wooooo hooooo, see ya there!

  • great vid jess very practical advice i think.

  • I agree, Jess! I was kicked out of my parents house when I came out. I don't advise it! Especially when you need financial help from them to go to college...yeah...wasn't fun.

  • That was advice. You gave what they should do, and your opinion on the whole ordeal. See you this weekend... if I say hi. :P

  • Yay Connecticut....I am from there!

  • I love you Jess!!!

  • Great video Jess!

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