I love Fates Warning and bands you love you sometimes can hear their influences come out in the music and in my opinion vocally I feel that Arch and Matheos must have enjoyed Uriah Heep.Uriah had a big influence on early metal but they never get any credit,it's always Black Sabbath,Led Zepplin and Hendrix but Uriah made some heavy for its time stuff and so did Blue Cheer.
@sk8metalnick6 the first line and the guitar riff sounds like The Rime of the Ancient Mariner Part I but way slower, and i prefer Iron Maiden any day but Fates Warning is decent. I guess....
@krisroks117 Are you people simply making these theories because they share the same song title with iron maiden? Fates Warning sounds nothing like Iron maiden...... They sound like Queensryche or Crimson Glory.. And iron maiden's Apparition is possibly one of their worst songs imo.
Metal, the way it's supposed to be! This one, Awaken The Guardian, and No Exit, to me, were all awesome!!!! Queensryche, Mindcrime, Rage for Order, Warning parallel groups, smoked alot of weed to these guys.
@eclipseoneonone <<<<<<<<This is Victor Arduini, one of the original Fates Warning's guitarists and he'd recorded this masterpiece called "The Spectre Within"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Necrophile, I saw FW open up for QR on the Rage tour ( FW, Awaken the Guard ) they both tore it up. Bruce couldnt touch them back then. And I am a big maiden fan. saw em that same year!!!!!!
First of all, Bruce Dickinson doesn't need to use his voice like this. He has more power than this poor man's Geoff Tate. I saw FW in 90 and passed out till Queensryche took the stage.
I'm not new to metal. Yet, i am new to this band, and they have touched my heart in a way only pure metal can do. I have spend years to search the metalband that can play with my mind, and since i heard Fates Warning i think i can finally sit back in peace, knowing that, for me, there will be no metal band with better music.
This is the first Fates Warning song I ever heard. It was on one of the Best of Metal Blade Records cassettes back in the '80s. This song hooked me on FW and Arch and is still one of my favorite tracks.
Thanks for uploading this album. Brings me memories from the 80's, when I had long hair. This was one of my first albums. This is my favorite Fates Warning song.... Salutations!
If the American Music execs had any sense, they would promote this kind of American music rather than that watered-down horse-shit that passes for music today... Pardon my English.
2:37 it's a great change...Metal Blade from 80's . I was 17 when i had this song from the album " the best of the metal blade" 1985. Fates warning was confused by Iron Maiden that time.
3:59 minute, such a fucking great feeling!! The best part of the song. It really makes you love metal forever and reminds you this song was made with a deep dose of heavy metal feeling. Amazing!!!
@LeonardoVala : I completely agree. I love that metal feeling with melodicism in the music and vocal harmonies. After all these years, that specific part at 3:59, still makes the hair on the back of my neck raise up. Metal forever!!
@LeonardoVala I completely agree! RIght when it goes into the "in the first is a young boy..." part. Friggin' LOVE it. I loved this band... was disappointed when John Arch left.
@LeonardoVala I agree as well -- I LOVE the whole "In the first is a young boy..." part. My favorite prog/metal band from that era -- such a shame John Arch left. Heard some of his solo stuff years later, and it just wasn't the same.
@darrelwylde.Dear friend, In fact, the whole song is great, not only from 02:23 to 03:15 part, which is also magnificent. What I was trying to say was that in 3:59 minute is where everything (specially vocal harmonies which create a wonderful heavy metal atmosphere) brings together perfectly creating a higher level of power and feeling. I hope you´ll understand it. You should take a look of the other comments. There are five people who agree with me. Sorry, but you lose this time.
@LeonardoVala loose/ what does that mean ? just because 5 ppl agree doesn't mean that is the best part, i agree with you the whole song is great but i just don't like that melo part, no offense of course, when it comes to "what you like and what i like etc" there is no right or wrong, it would be boring if all have same taste of music... i just like the darker parts of theur songs or the part "take me away." the vocals are amazing, we don't agree on that but we still love the same song..
@darrelwylde. Congratulations, talking is the only way to agree on many topics. Probably we were referring to different things. I have mainly focused on the music, because of the fact that I´m a metal musician, but I have almost never focused on the lyrics. I guess you mean the words. Well, anyway there also great dark parts in this song. You just said ¨the vocals are amazing¨, that´s why I chose 3:59 minute because of the magnificent blend of voices. Special greetings from Ecuador
@darrelwylde. Qué bueno hermano. Por ahí hubiésemos empezado, pero qué bueno que esto no haya terminado en pelea, pues es bueno discutir acerca de algún tópico específico con altura, ante todo el respeto y la cultura que nos caracteriza a la gente de Loja (al sur del Ecuador). Por cierto, algún momento visitaré tu hermoso país (conozco Argentina), no tengo el agrado de conocerlo, pero he visto en fotos que es muy bonito. Próximamente voy a Paraguay. Saludos, y suerte en todo...!!
@LeonardoVala tampoco he tenido la oportunidad de conocer Ecuador, sin embargo vivo en los Estados Unidos y tengo varios amigos ecuatorianos aqui con los que mayormente intentamos hacer musica, como ustedes dicen son bien bacanes! algun dia tendre la oportunidad de ir a Quito, o Guayaquil que segun se, es la ciudad mas grande, pero quiero mas que nada visitar Cuenca es la ciudad de uno de mis amigos y ya despues me comere un buen ceviche!.. nos estamos en contacto! Martin.
Fates warning. Joan Arc. I'm not so sure why I never get sick of these oldies. I've been banging my head rockin to the same music for close to 30 years now. I'm almost afraid that I'll be grey, old, with long hair still collecting mad antiques like Elvis P. M. Monroe or James D fools.
Definitely a classic metal song!!! It reminds me my first steps on metal when I was only 15. (20 years ago) At least for me......the best heavy metal song ever heard!!! Amazing!!!! Special greetings from Loja (Ecuador).
@Haloman777 i looked in to they do have them as songs. i have to say i didnt think of it. guess inm not as good a fan as i thought i was hahahahahaha. guess that comes from listening to alot of stuff. with variations in type.
Both CD's, Awaken the Guardian, as well as The Spectre Within are both unique in their way and part of a natural progression of the band. I also think that Fates Warning is a huge band that should be seen in their two eras as if they are two different bands, both of them quite good.
I like John's era better, since you cannot find any other band at all doing what they did, specially because of John's creativity and prowess. Tose CDs are for me two pillars in my heavy metal formation.
Both CD's, Awaken the Guardian, as well as The Spectre Within are both unique in their way and part of a natural progression of the band. I also think that Fates Warning is a huge band that should be seen in their two eras as if they are two different bands, both of them quite good.
I like John's era better, since you cannot find any other band at all doing what they did, specially because of John's creativity and prowess. Tose CDs are for me two pillars in my heavy metal formation.
They would of gone alot farther with john, but he had to leave for personal reasons. Ray Balderama which is his real name was good, but never could match up to john. At the time when metal music was gonna explode with john they would of been real popular. I'm from s.a. i see ray around alot and from talking to him he always tried his best.
Oh...just the way John starts singing at 4:00...I get goosebumps every time and always have since 98 when I first heard this CD....yeah I know I was kinda late on it...
I finally found it! I borrowed this audio tape with various artists from my uncle and had this song in... I just couldn't remember the artist's name or title and it was stuck in my head for like a decade! Damn I had no idea Fates Warning were so fuckin awesome!
Wow, Wolfgang, I know your a fellow metalhead but I would say that most people familiar with the John Arch era of Fates Warning and the Ray Alder era will say they much prefer John Arch. Ray's vocals are cool but John Arch did something unique in that he used his voice as a meodic instrument. In many songs he would create a melody line doubling vocal harmonies while the guitars vamped on a chord progression. Anyway I'm glad you think the song is epic! Keep It Metal! \m/
Yeah you're right. Most do prefer it but there's something sickening about his voice for me and this is coming from a huge fan of US power metal and King Diamonds early vocals...
Something about Arch reminds me of a little kid non stop whining and I much prefer Alder's voice...different strokes for different folks I guess..
Right on Wolfgang. I completely understand your side of the issue as well. BTW your channel is pretty cool with so many awesome uploads. Even Forced Entry. I was in a band called Forced Entry in CT back in the 80's and our band got into a "war" with Forced Entry in Seattle over the name. They won! LOL. They were better anyway. See ya!
@proggoth I'd rather he didn't, really. Arch is fucking awesome but he's not right at all for the kind of band DT are, or the kind of band that FW became, for that matter.
@tom5coat Actually quite a few people I've seen over time dislike Arch. Arch has more vocal ability than Alder sure, I can hear that, but Arch's tone is too sickening for me and many others to enjoy.
Uh.....Dude.....creating melody lines over chord progressions is one of the most basic elements of singing. The voice is primarily a melodic instrument. How is that unique?
I think what makes John Arch unique is that he was a true counter-tenor. Very rare.
Ray Alder never wrote lyrics for Fates Warning (except on Monument, I believe). Matheos wrote APSoG, I believe, which has the best lyrics of any post-Arch FW album.
But really, they never came close to Arch's gift with imagery.
I don't know what you mean by "APSoG". Anyway, I remember now that Matheos and the other guitarist wrote most of the stuff on "No Exit" and "Perfect Symmetry". I stand corrected. Now did John write the lyrics he sang?
Nonetheless I like the lyrics on "No Exit" and "Perfect Symmetry" better.
Yukon and Mike...I was there as well..I live in SA and grew up loving FW. This song Joe Anthony played quite a bit on KISS. I loved the John Arch era of Fates Warning.
yukons95 we need to talk. I'm frm sa and i saw f/w many times. Shook john archs hand at sunken gardens back on the a/t guardian tour. when they opened up for Q/R on the Rage for order tour. Saw them when they opened for Dream /T at the Majestic.....
i was there, i saw them very early at the cameo theatre a few times. actually a buddy of mine promoted alot of bands here in s.a. alder was at a get together a few weeks ago that i could not make. i still give him shit about john kicking his ass!!LOL!!!
'just vastness filled with stars upon stars'. i'm not sure john arch got the writing credit he deserved. awaken the guardian has some of the finest lyrics music will ever know. i remember listening to it constantly but not being able to decipher his lyrics because his phrasing is so unique...
i grew up listening to fates back in the 80's. i really think john had or has the best fucking voice over anyone in any kind of rock! i was fortunate to see them many times here in san antonio wi th john! i also knew ray very well which his name was really ray balderama, which he changed to alder just to make it sound more into the rock thing! sorry but after john left i really stopped listening to fates. i am glad some newcomers have heard this music,
SAnctuary " Into the mirror Black " and "Refuge Denied"...Mystic Force "Eternal Quest" ...Queensrcyhe " Operation Mindcrime" and "Warning". Helstar " Nosferatu", Solitude Aeturnus " Beyond the crimson Horizon", Fates Warning "Awaken the Guardian" , CAndlemass ' Epicus Doomicus MEtallicus", Heir Apparent " One Small Voice" and many more:)
This is the first time I have heard this band, even though I had heard of them, I just never listend to them because I thought they were like those bands that screamed and I was just not into that. I like to hear medolic/melodic classical souding groups that u can actually understand the lyrics. Wow was I wrong about Fates Warning. Love it.
Right on, mettall1981! I'm glad you enjoyed this song. Check out the rest of the album "The Spectre Within" from Fates Warning that I posted. You'll love it!
Undoubteadly this is the best heavy metal song from all the times. I´ve been looking for it for long, but thanks to you I´ve been able to listen to it again. What a great song!!, the most emotive part on 3:59 - 4:00 minute.
Esta rola esta bien chiongona, la primera vez que la escuche, pense que el cantaba era Michael Kiske, pero me sorprendi al saber que era este grupo, la verdad que estan chingones, tienen una gran influencia de los Maidens, la verdad que gran banda, y esta rola de mis favoritas, tiene cierto toque prograsivo, lo que la hace aun mas chida. SALUDOS DESDE SAN LUIS RIO COLORADO SONORA
Yeah! no doubt It's a great song, man...I recomend you this one: "confused" from Death Angel (USA)or "mad butcher" from Destruction (Germany). The best blade and thrash metal ever.
Yeah - I've been an Arch fan since the 1st album. Love him, hated when they let him go. But Ray is great in his own right.
But in regard to how great a vocalist John was, listen to the demos, and the LIVE versions... they are less than desirable in many places. That's the beauty of being in a studio - you can redo, redo, redo til you get it right.
My fave vocalist = Bruce Dickinson. Stronger voice than Arch. 'Nuff said.
from 3.17 it really gets good for me
RepaleoN 8 hours ago
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michelpironato 4 days ago
3:59 is the best use of melody I've ever heard and I've heard A LOT of melodic metal. The band should get an award for this part.
Moolers 3 weeks ago 4
Love it!!!
deathkittydisco 1 month ago
classic
NINJATRONdnb 1 month ago
Already love metal forever!
manodotiago 1 month ago
2:37 the attack begins.....
BanOxyCred 1 month ago in playlist METALFIELD
This entire album is just incredible. I agree Arch reminds me of Kiske too.
wykydtron6 2 months ago
Thanks for the lyrics and of course the song.
kobana23 2 months ago
John Arch is Fates Warning! No disrespect to Ray Alder, but it's just not the same without him.
laudanum669 3 months ago
I mean holy shit, is that intro brilliant or what?
Khanin2718 3 months ago
Fuck Master of Puppets or Number of the beast! This is where it's at!
DerianX19 4 months ago
@DerianX19 nah
ButtKey312 2 months ago
shit i capture every old fates warning i can get my hands on there will never be another!!
Zanaxe100 4 months ago 2
I love Fates Warning and bands you love you sometimes can hear their influences come out in the music and in my opinion vocally I feel that Arch and Matheos must have enjoyed Uriah Heep.Uriah had a big influence on early metal but they never get any credit,it's always Black Sabbath,Led Zepplin and Hendrix but Uriah made some heavy for its time stuff and so did Blue Cheer.
blitzspeer 5 months ago 2
True Fates is back, search Arch/Matheos !
FVEliteDT 6 months ago
sounds like iron maiden
sk8metalnick6 6 months ago
@sk8metalnick6 the first line and the guitar riff sounds like The Rime of the Ancient Mariner Part I but way slower, and i prefer Iron Maiden any day but Fates Warning is decent. I guess....
krisroks117 5 months ago 2
@krisroks117 Are you people simply making these theories because they share the same song title with iron maiden? Fates Warning sounds nothing like Iron maiden...... They sound like Queensryche or Crimson Glory.. And iron maiden's Apparition is possibly one of their worst songs imo.
Guyverhoeven 2 months ago
@Guyverhoeven Yeah, Iron Maiden's Apparition totally blows. This guy sounds kind of like the dude from Helloween, though.
ButtKey312 2 months ago
@Guyverhoeven not at all...
krisroks117 2 months ago
take me away.... one of their best tracks from this album, always amazing!
jenn4utube2011 6 months ago
I found this album at a flea market for 5$ !!
AWESOME FIND !!
TheMetalCollection 6 months ago in playlist Fates Warning The Spectre Within
@TheMetalCollection i bought it when the album was 5 bucks..haha
jdu6 3 months ago
ΕΠΟΣ!!!
AkisDoom 7 months ago 2
amazing...i fucking am in love with this song...and the vocal harmony...
1withguitar 7 months ago
Metal, the way it's supposed to be! This one, Awaken The Guardian, and No Exit, to me, were all awesome!!!! Queensryche, Mindcrime, Rage for Order, Warning parallel groups, smoked alot of weed to these guys.
MrNashguitar1 7 months ago
Arch has one of the most unique vocals, ever and it gives me fucking goosebumps
kobana23 7 months ago
fucking badass
956crazyman19 7 months ago
We used to call the part we're John came in with the background vocals at 3:59 as "John and the Little Arches"
eclipseoneonone 7 months ago 3
@eclipseoneonone <<<<<<<<This is Victor Arduini, one of the original Fates Warning's guitarists and he'd recorded this masterpiece called "The Spectre Within"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nerothos 7 months ago
I like John Arch BECAUSE he gets off-key sometimes;it works. It sounds sinister.
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loganchandler08 9 months ago
His voice is so amazing!
Guyverhoeven 9 months ago
This is better than that avenged sevenfold shit kids like nowadays.
FPSRuezga 10 months ago
@FPSRuezga i think we are aware of that!
MunicipalDude 9 months ago
I still like monument better you know it's FUCKING AMAZING!!!This song kicks ass too ive know this since i was like 2 years old -_- I'm only 13
bobafett722 10 months ago
Hey Necrophile, I saw FW open up for QR on the Rage tour ( FW, Awaken the Guard ) they both tore it up. Bruce couldnt touch them back then. And I am a big maiden fan. saw em that same year!!!!!!
matalmike 10 months ago
Everyones life summed up in one of the most direct, romantic and substantial verses in the history of this music:
In the 4 corners of life are the golden mirrors,
reflecting what you are and what you are to be
In the first is a young boy WHITE DOVE in his hand,
in the second is A WARRIOR IN ARMOR
in the third is the old man GOLD WATCH in his hand,
fourth and last
NO REFLECTION AT ALL
This is the kind of talent that listens to the name John Arch
Yiannis2112 11 months ago
First of all, Bruce Dickinson doesn't need to use his voice like this. He has more power than this poor man's Geoff Tate. I saw FW in 90 and passed out till Queensryche took the stage.
Necrophile 11 months ago
I'm not new to metal. Yet, i am new to this band, and they have touched my heart in a way only pure metal can do. I have spend years to search the metalband that can play with my mind, and since i heard Fates Warning i think i can finally sit back in peace, knowing that, for me, there will be no metal band with better music.
Inaste666 11 months ago
If I didn't know any better I'd swear that was Andre Matos singing.
Awesome.
MrScary66 1 year ago
WHY ANYBODY TALKS ABOUT FATES WARNING ? So underestimated band...
MagnumBullets47 1 year ago
This is the first Fates Warning song I ever heard. It was on one of the Best of Metal Blade Records cassettes back in the '80s. This song hooked me on FW and Arch and is still one of my favorite tracks.
LordAlberonn 1 year ago
theres no fucking way bruce dickinson could use his voice like this. USA USA USA USA USA
marthasreturn 1 year ago
Take me away with you.
Burn0ut0nline 1 year ago
reminds me bruce dickinson voice´s from maiden..\m/... Fates warning Rocksssssssssssssss...great band i start to know
saltimbamqui 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading this album. Brings me memories from the 80's, when I had long hair. This was one of my first albums. This is my favorite Fates Warning song.... Salutations!
ELBRUNO15 1 year ago
If the American Music execs had any sense, they would promote this kind of American music rather than that watered-down horse-shit that passes for music today... Pardon my English.
solaceinsorrow 1 year ago
man ive always heard about this band but never gave them a listen. Fuck this is good metal!
anyrock22 1 year ago
If you disliked this song go suck your moms cock , your fuckin retarded
progressivemetal4evr 1 year ago
These guys had some cool album covers. Even the more "lame" No Exit cover was cool to me. Reminded me of Wolfenstein 3D.
puberis 1 year ago
the re issue cover looks so lifeless, the fancy the blue one.
ThrashTillDeath322 1 year ago
sounds like Iron Maiden to me...
kyla2112 1 year ago
2:37 it's a great change...Metal Blade from 80's . I was 17 when i had this song from the album " the best of the metal blade" 1985. Fates warning was confused by Iron Maiden that time.
BanOxyCred 1 year ago
Honestly one of the greatest metal songs ever.
Apejack 1 year ago 2
John Arch, I fucking love you.
paparoach99 1 year ago
@dokkiro Yr not alone partner! I still can't put the valume down when I put one of my old vynal metal records on. Why would we want to. Rock On /,,/
comotevue1 1 year ago
3:59 minute, such a fucking great feeling!! The best part of the song. It really makes you love metal forever and reminds you this song was made with a deep dose of heavy metal feeling. Amazing!!!
LeonardoVala 1 year ago 25
@LeonardoVala : I completely agree. I love that metal feeling with melodicism in the music and vocal harmonies. After all these years, that specific part at 3:59, still makes the hair on the back of my neck raise up. Metal forever!!
vindude1968 1 year ago 11
@vindude1968 Oh man you aren't kidding about the hairs. For me it's goosebumps all over...it's my favorite part of the song for sure!!!
LordArithon 7 months ago
@LeonardoVala I completely agree! RIght when it goes into the "in the first is a young boy..." part. Friggin' LOVE it. I loved this band... was disappointed when John Arch left.
ericdiamondprod 11 months ago
@LeonardoVala I agree as well -- I LOVE the whole "In the first is a young boy..." part. My favorite prog/metal band from that era -- such a shame John Arch left. Heard some of his solo stuff years later, and it just wasn't the same.
ericdiamondprod 11 months ago
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darrelwylde 2 months ago
@darrelwylde.Dear friend, In fact, the whole song is great, not only from 02:23 to 03:15 part, which is also magnificent. What I was trying to say was that in 3:59 minute is where everything (specially vocal harmonies which create a wonderful heavy metal atmosphere) brings together perfectly creating a higher level of power and feeling. I hope you´ll understand it. You should take a look of the other comments. There are five people who agree with me. Sorry, but you lose this time.
LeonardoVala 2 months ago
@LeonardoVala loose/ what does that mean ? just because 5 ppl agree doesn't mean that is the best part, i agree with you the whole song is great but i just don't like that melo part, no offense of course, when it comes to "what you like and what i like etc" there is no right or wrong, it would be boring if all have same taste of music... i just like the darker parts of theur songs or the part "take me away." the vocals are amazing, we don't agree on that but we still love the same song..
darrelwylde 2 months ago
@darrelwylde. Congratulations, talking is the only way to agree on many topics. Probably we were referring to different things. I have mainly focused on the music, because of the fact that I´m a metal musician, but I have almost never focused on the lyrics. I guess you mean the words. Well, anyway there also great dark parts in this song. You just said ¨the vocals are amazing¨, that´s why I chose 3:59 minute because of the magnificent blend of voices. Special greetings from Ecuador
LeonardoVala 2 months ago
@LeonardoVala yeah i know what you mean men, i am a musician aswell , greetings from montevideo, un abrazo amigo.
darrelwylde 2 months ago
@darrelwylde. Qué bueno hermano. Por ahí hubiésemos empezado, pero qué bueno que esto no haya terminado en pelea, pues es bueno discutir acerca de algún tópico específico con altura, ante todo el respeto y la cultura que nos caracteriza a la gente de Loja (al sur del Ecuador). Por cierto, algún momento visitaré tu hermoso país (conozco Argentina), no tengo el agrado de conocerlo, pero he visto en fotos que es muy bonito. Próximamente voy a Paraguay. Saludos, y suerte en todo...!!
LeonardoVala 2 months ago
@LeonardoVala tampoco he tenido la oportunidad de conocer Ecuador, sin embargo vivo en los Estados Unidos y tengo varios amigos ecuatorianos aqui con los que mayormente intentamos hacer musica, como ustedes dicen son bien bacanes! algun dia tendre la oportunidad de ir a Quito, o Guayaquil que segun se, es la ciudad mas grande, pero quiero mas que nada visitar Cuenca es la ciudad de uno de mis amigos y ya despues me comere un buen ceviche!.. nos estamos en contacto! Martin.
darrelwylde 2 months ago
Fates warning. Joan Arc. I'm not so sure why I never get sick of these oldies. I've been banging my head rockin to the same music for close to 30 years now. I'm almost afraid that I'll be grey, old, with long hair still collecting mad antiques like Elvis P. M. Monroe or James D fools.
dokkiro 1 year ago
Definitely a classic metal song!!! It reminds me my first steps on metal when I was only 15. (20 years ago) At least for me......the best heavy metal song ever heard!!! Amazing!!!! Special greetings from Loja (Ecuador).
LeonardoVala 1 year ago
classic fates.......love it and all
fumemanv 1 year ago
To me, Arch sounds like a cross between Bruce Dickinson and Kai Hansen.
Andytheminstrel 1 year ago
@Andytheminstrel To me, Arch sounds like a cross between John Arch, and John Arch.
Lengsel7 1 year ago
@Lengsel7 Very witty, actually I think it's more like a cross between Rob Halford and Bruce Dickinson.
Andytheminstrel 1 year ago
vocals remind me a bit of Geoff Tate.
XombieLejon66 1 year ago
@XombieLejon66 vocals remind me a bit of John Arch.
Lengsel7 1 year ago
WOW!! this band is freakin awesome. its like a mix with iron maiden
slay4you 1 year ago
Fates rules, musical magicians
laithlaith91 1 year ago 3
This band deserves a lot of more recognition.
MagnumBullets47 1 year ago 2
this sounds like something iron maiden would make. i lke that. def have to look into these guys.
patrickjune1994 1 year ago
@patrickjune1994 Funny you mentioned them cause I believe they made two songs called Fates Warning and The Apparition
Haloman777 1 year ago
@Haloman777 i looked in to they do have them as songs. i have to say i didnt think of it. guess inm not as good a fan as i thought i was hahahahahaha. guess that comes from listening to alot of stuff. with variations in type.
patrickjune1994 1 year ago
Both CD's, Awaken the Guardian, as well as The Spectre Within are both unique in their way and part of a natural progression of the band. I also think that Fates Warning is a huge band that should be seen in their two eras as if they are two different bands, both of them quite good.
I like John's era better, since you cannot find any other band at all doing what they did, specially because of John's creativity and prowess. Tose CDs are for me two pillars in my heavy metal formation.
PactodeSangre 1 year ago
Both CD's, Awaken the Guardian, as well as The Spectre Within are both unique in their way and part of a natural progression of the band. I also think that Fates Warning is a huge band that should be seen in their two eras as if they are two different bands, both of them quite good.
I like John's era better, since you cannot find any other band at all doing what they did, specially because of John's creativity and prowess. Tose CDs are for me two pillars in my heavy metal formation.
PactodeSangre 1 year ago
Alot of hardcore fates fans liked johns voice so much that they really quit listening to fates after ray took over.
yukons95 1 year ago
They would of gone alot farther with john, but he had to leave for personal reasons. Ray Balderama which is his real name was good, but never could match up to john. At the time when metal music was gonna explode with john they would of been real popular. I'm from s.a. i see ray around alot and from talking to him he always tried his best.
yukons95 1 year ago
Oh...just the way John starts singing at 4:00...I get goosebumps every time and always have since 98 when I first heard this CD....yeah I know I was kinda late on it...
LordArithon 1 year ago
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PPCBEANZ 1 year ago
im 40 years old and think ray is a pussy ....go john
aciagator 1 year ago
Such a great, great underrated classic.
"I want to know what's deep within, take me away aaAAAaahh!"
just Incredibly epic..
I guess the reason many metal fans abandon classic Fates is because of John Arch's intricate way of singing.
I got into Fates Warning through their excellent release "Awaken the guardian".
I've been a fan ever since.
Check out the songs "Valley of the Dolls" and "Fata Morgana" from that album. You won't regret it..
Sekkingstad 1 year ago
The greatest song in the world! :)
CherieO 1 year ago 5
iron maiden-ish..
sounds frekin sick
jongmagee 1 year ago
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they are fucking shit
xIRODRiiGO 1 year ago
dude my dad told me to check tese guys out they fucking rock
pantera420slave 1 year ago
Since i rediscovered this album its mostly what i listen to for a whole 2 months now!
Classic!
Kolenschopper 1 year ago
still rocks...
scavenger73 1 year ago
This is the greatest prog. metal song of all time.
ewfx29 1 year ago
FATES WARNING ROCKS \m/ (*.*) \m/
PPCBEANZ 1 year ago
I finally found it! I borrowed this audio tape with various artists from my uncle and had this song in... I just couldn't remember the artist's name or title and it was stuck in my head for like a decade! Damn I had no idea Fates Warning were so fuckin awesome!
Tiars666tiamat 1 year ago
makes the back of my neck hairs stand up
DetrunningDog 1 year ago
the power of this fuckin band its mesmerising
DetrunningDog 1 year ago
Classic!!!! Definitely prefer the John Arch era of the band, he sounded similar to Bruce Dickinson at times I thought.
MountainKingEric 1 year ago
EPIC
PPCBEANZ 1 year ago
YYYYEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fede7769 1 year ago
Discovering more the band: Nothing to waste!
TheAndaleclub 1 year ago
These lyrics... geez. Mailed directly to the heart. They are fantastic.. I love the whole mirrors symbolism. Beautiful.
UnbornChild 2 years ago
i may listen to this song like 20-30 times day!john arch has a great voice
xatzis012 2 years ago
NO REFLECTION AT ALL!!!!
Awesome epic power metal. I love John's epic vocals.
calastiur 2 years ago 2
FATES WARNING=great musicians=great songs=GREAT BAND!!!!
xatzis012 2 years ago 2
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I hate John Archs vocals but this song is still epic
WolfgangVonPoserkila 2 years ago
Wow, Wolfgang, I know your a fellow metalhead but I would say that most people familiar with the John Arch era of Fates Warning and the Ray Alder era will say they much prefer John Arch. Ray's vocals are cool but John Arch did something unique in that he used his voice as a meodic instrument. In many songs he would create a melody line doubling vocal harmonies while the guitars vamped on a chord progression. Anyway I'm glad you think the song is epic! Keep It Metal! \m/
vindude1968 2 years ago 8
Yeah you're right. Most do prefer it but there's something sickening about his voice for me and this is coming from a huge fan of US power metal and King Diamonds early vocals...
Something about Arch reminds me of a little kid non stop whining and I much prefer Alder's voice...different strokes for different folks I guess..
WolfgangVonPoserkila 2 years ago
Right on Wolfgang. I completely understand your side of the issue as well. BTW your channel is pretty cool with so many awesome uploads. Even Forced Entry. I was in a band called Forced Entry in CT back in the 80's and our band got into a "war" with Forced Entry in Seattle over the name. They won! LOL. They were better anyway. See ya!
vindude1968 2 years ago
@vindude1968 If only Arch had joined Dream Theater. That wouldve been incredible.
proggoth 1 year ago
@proggoth I'd rather he didn't, really. Arch is fucking awesome but he's not right at all for the kind of band DT are, or the kind of band that FW became, for that matter.
endlessintertwined 1 year ago
@endlessintertwined You may be right but it beats not hearing him at all.
proggoth 1 year ago
@proggoth Have you heard his solo EP he did a few years ago with Portnoy and Matheos? It's really short but it's absolutely epic.
endlessintertwined 1 year ago
@endlessintertwined Yes i have. Progressive stuff.
proggoth 1 year ago
@WolfgangVonPoserkila Arch rules, Wolfydude.
Have a nice day.
Lengsel7 1 year ago
@WolfgangVonPoserkila
I just now listened to alder trying to sing this song live. After which I have major trouble seeing how anyone can prefer Alder over Arch.
tom5coat 11 months ago
@tom5coat Actually quite a few people I've seen over time dislike Arch. Arch has more vocal ability than Alder sure, I can hear that, but Arch's tone is too sickening for me and many others to enjoy.
WolfgangVonPoserkila 11 months ago
@WolfgangVonPoserkila
I guess I'm not hearing the sickening tone you are describing. When I compare them, I'm hearing arch as the better sound.
tom5coat 11 months ago
@vindude1968
I like alder better, but I still love the cds with Arch
HellHammerX 1 year ago
@vindude1968
Uh.....Dude.....creating melody lines over chord progressions is one of the most basic elements of singing. How is that unique?
I think what makes John Arch unique is that he was a true counter-tenor. Very rare.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@vindude1968
Uh.....Dude.....creating melody lines over chord progressions is one of the most basic elements of singing. The voice is primarily a melodic instrument. How is that unique?
I think what makes John Arch unique is that he was a true counter-tenor. Very rare.
Ray Alder wrote better lyrics.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
Ray Alder never wrote lyrics for Fates Warning (except on Monument, I believe). Matheos wrote APSoG, I believe, which has the best lyrics of any post-Arch FW album.
But really, they never came close to Arch's gift with imagery.
oooooooooorly 1 year ago
@oooooooooorly
I don't know what you mean by "APSoG". Anyway, I remember now that Matheos and the other guitarist wrote most of the stuff on "No Exit" and "Perfect Symmetry". I stand corrected. Now did John write the lyrics he sang?
Nonetheless I like the lyrics on "No Exit" and "Perfect Symmetry" better.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
John Arch did indeed write the lyrics for the albums he sang on.
APSoG is A Pleasant Shade of Gray, their 1997 album. Really difficult album to get into, but superb nonetheless. Great concept.
oooooooooorly 1 year ago
@WolfgangVonPoserkila i perfer alder is voice as well but i wouldnt go that far
motleycrue24 1 year ago
Yukon and Mike...I was there as well..I live in SA and grew up loving FW. This song Joe Anthony played quite a bit on KISS. I loved the John Arch era of Fates Warning.
deathkittydisco 2 years ago
yukons95 we need to talk. I'm frm sa and i saw f/w many times. Shook john archs hand at sunken gardens back on the a/t guardian tour. when they opened up for Q/R on the Rage for order tour. Saw them when they opened for Dream /T at the Majestic.....
matalmike 2 years ago
i was there, i saw them very early at the cameo theatre a few times. actually a buddy of mine promoted alot of bands here in s.a. alder was at a get together a few weeks ago that i could not make. i still give him shit about john kicking his ass!!LOL!!!
yukons95 2 years ago
'just vastness filled with stars upon stars'. i'm not sure john arch got the writing credit he deserved. awaken the guardian has some of the finest lyrics music will ever know. i remember listening to it constantly but not being able to decipher his lyrics because his phrasing is so unique...
dreambrother2002 2 years ago 2
Classic! Loved this song when I was growin up
hlrazor1967 2 years ago 11
Me too. And I still love this song. Never gets old!
vindude1968 2 years ago
because i see that they think this older kind of metal kicks ass! even the guitar work is awesome!!!
yukons95 2 years ago
i grew up listening to fates back in the 80's. i really think john had or has the best fucking voice over anyone in any kind of rock! i was fortunate to see them many times here in san antonio wi th john! i also knew ray very well which his name was really ray balderama, which he changed to alder just to make it sound more into the rock thing! sorry but after john left i really stopped listening to fates. i am glad some newcomers have heard this music,
yukons95 2 years ago
This is some of the best metal ever recorded! Todays metal like shadows fall and unearth fucking sucks.
CrushJehovah 2 years ago
i quiet listening to fates after rays 3rd attempt. john come back !!
aciagator 2 years ago
im new to this type of music and i love it so im looking for band sugestions please.
nadim30000 2 years ago
Fates Warning is one of the founding fathers of progressive metal. Other bands and CD's to check out are:
Dream Theater: "Images and Words" Savatage: "Hall of the Mountain King"
Into Eternity: "Scattering of Ashes"
Iced Earth: "Framing Armageddon" check out the song Ten Thousand Strong. Awesome! Let me know what you think.
vindude1968 2 years ago
SAnctuary " Into the mirror Black " and "Refuge Denied"...Mystic Force "Eternal Quest" ...Queensrcyhe " Operation Mindcrime" and "Warning". Helstar " Nosferatu", Solitude Aeturnus " Beyond the crimson Horizon", Fates Warning "Awaken the Guardian" , CAndlemass ' Epicus Doomicus MEtallicus", Heir Apparent " One Small Voice" and many more:)
Crigito 2 years ago
You forgot to mention "No Exit" by Fates warning...one of the best pieces of music ever recorded of ANY genre.
CrushJehovah 2 years ago
Symphony X and Adagio are two bands to add to the other lists.
Deathyman 2 years ago
Keep surfing You Tube! You'll find an array of metal.
BTW, KEEP THE FAITH!!
bknthday 2 years ago
This is the first time I have heard this band, even though I had heard of them, I just never listend to them because I thought they were like those bands that screamed and I was just not into that. I like to hear medolic/melodic classical souding groups that u can actually understand the lyrics. Wow was I wrong about Fates Warning. Love it.
mettall1981 2 years ago 2
Right on, mettall1981! I'm glad you enjoyed this song. Check out the rest of the album "The Spectre Within" from Fates Warning that I posted. You'll love it!
vindude1968 2 years ago
dickinson is great live his voice is breaking a bit now tht hes older but hes still epic, never heard this guy live
x360wizard 2 years ago
RIGHT FUCKING ON!!!!!!
MegaDumkopf 2 years ago
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!
MegaDumkopf 2 years ago
fuck yea love the metal...
fumemanv 2 years ago 3
I need to get this damn album.
Kick ass band.
Ron323 2 years ago 2
Undoubteadly this is the best heavy metal song from all the times. I´ve been looking for it for long, but thanks to you I´ve been able to listen to it again. What a great song!!, the most emotive part on 3:59 - 4:00 minute.
LeonardoValarezo 2 years ago
dam love that intro! awesome jam.
bass1134 2 years ago
best song from Fates warning...maiden must be envy!!!
julyo02 2 years ago
fucking awsome....true metal
CrushJehovah 2 years ago 6
Man, this is something that Iron Maiden would like to play.
MagnumBullets47 2 years ago 3
In fact, Harris with Dinckinson composed another "The apparition", too. But it's different, of course.
BanOxyCred 2 years ago
Fuckin' beautiful song
CalabazaOfshadows 2 years ago 11
2:38...That's what I call "fucking cool man!"
BanOxyCred 2 years ago
Esta rola esta bien chiongona, la primera vez que la escuche, pense que el cantaba era Michael Kiske, pero me sorprendi al saber que era este grupo, la verdad que estan chingones, tienen una gran influencia de los Maidens, la verdad que gran banda, y esta rola de mis favoritas, tiene cierto toque prograsivo, lo que la hace aun mas chida. SALUDOS DESDE SAN LUIS RIO COLORADO SONORA
JAVYMETAL1990 2 years ago
Yeah! no doubt It's a great song, man...I recomend you this one: "confused" from Death Angel (USA)or "mad butcher" from Destruction (Germany). The best blade and thrash metal ever.
BanOxyCred 2 years ago
Best intro ever! John Arch's voice sounds so pleasant to hear!
...Need to buy ''The Spectre Within'' soon!
calastiur 2 years ago 3
one of the few local bands from my home state that is actually good
asshole85 2 years ago
John Arch is the one singer I wish I could sound like above all others. Amazing range, control, timbre, etc. :-)
dwellerofrhymes 2 years ago 7
this
6six6jes 2 years ago
Yeah - I've been an Arch fan since the 1st album. Love him, hated when they let him go. But Ray is great in his own right.
But in regard to how great a vocalist John was, listen to the demos, and the LIVE versions... they are less than desirable in many places. That's the beauty of being in a studio - you can redo, redo, redo til you get it right.
My fave vocalist = Bruce Dickinson. Stronger voice than Arch. 'Nuff said.
sjsongs 2 years ago