@tixmastr In other words you have no proof and are bearing false witness by claiming he's guilty without knowing he's guilty but just assuming he is.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
@tixmastr You don't refute any statements with any facts.""thousands" of articles is a huge stretch.It was his demeanor that helped him more than anything else;Relentlessly positive,optimistic with a successful Resume. The difference between you and me Is I'm not inclined to classify you without knowing you.Got a feeling you;d never say that to my face ,though..a real cyber -warrior you are..
@tixmastr I love the way you're incapable of an original thought. Who are "You Guys"?and the Media never did anything for Cain.Ordinary people liked him--inspite of the Media...
@tixmastr You do realize that a ton of people are falsely accused of sexual harassment, do you not? And the more prominant a figure they are, the more they are likely to be subjected to such a false claim. (Even Beiber is not immune to the lies - but he wasn't at least running for President)
Now, bearing that in mind, please offer PROOF that Cain had sex with others. That's right, you cannot. Please cease the lies and hatred.
@tixmastr The Democrats take Black and Hispanic votes for granted;they figure as long as they bribe them with social programs, affirmative action,and non-enforcement of immigration law -they own them;that's why they have to destroy independent thinking minority candidates,particularly if they join the other party;.I don't watch Fox;.;but from watching these ridiculous,malicious, .petty,intellectually lazy hatchet jobs--how can Fox be worse than MSNBC?
@tixmastr He was never 'MY CANDIDATE";I liked his style;and it was so obvious how threatened Democrats and the MSNBC people were by him;the sleazy "Uncle Tom" stuff and the ridiculous venom throw at him by MSNBC hacks like Martin Bashir and Lawrence Odonnellmade me like him more;it just provedchow hatefully biased the station is against any Black conservative;they couldn't just fight him on ideas;it was disgraceful;.
@tixmastr You can't just make up your own facts;if unsubstabtiated allegations equal a "scandal" regarding Herman Cain,then a President who lies on National television--then admits he lied-and then barely avoids impeachment because of that lie -has to be guilty of scandal also...
@tixmastr Sorry you didn't catch the meaning: if you vote for Cain, you're a racist according to her because Cain "knows his place" - if you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist, according to her, because he's black.
With people dishonestly playing the race card, you're racist if you vote for Cain because he's black and racist for not voting for Obama (because the ONLY reason you could POSSIBLY not want to vote for him must be b/c he's black). That's the racism: claiming this nonsense.
LAZY PREJUDICDED PSYCHOBBBLE,,Everything wrong with modern poklitical discourse is embodied in that Finney idiot; Cain's a CEO;that's a pretty good "place"; Finney's the mouthpiece for the party of Teacher Union created Shit Schools and welfare dependency in exchange for votes.Not such a good "place" for blacks..
You Liberals don't have A problem when Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, P. Diddy, O.J. Simpson, and all those gang bangers that you keep coddling go after white women, but if Herman Cain does it, you go out, and lynch him! If one of your niggers go after white women, that's okay, but if an 'uncle tom' does, 'off with his head'! You liberals might as well start wearing baggy pants, and gold chains . Then again, you keep confiscating out guns so you can do drive byes on Wall Street.
Bashir said "thank you for spelling that out". This is a case of we only see that which is truly in us.... she is scared of black men... sorry.. but that is what it seems to me... anyone think I spelled it out correctly? ;-)
@tixmastr I'm not trying to make herman cain president, but his white supporters are the farthest thing from what the karen finney described.... good question tho ticket master... sick screen name bro
@tixmastr Considering little to no information has come out about the incident. And neither of the victims are willing to come forward pretty much says that it was probably no big deal. Unlike cheating on your wife while leader of the free world then publicly lying about it to the entire country. One seems worse than the other.
A black man who knows his place.... we're talking about a man running for President - the most powerful position in the world, commander of our armed forces, face of the free world. His supporters (implied to be racist) want a man like Cain in the most powerful position in world history. Great logic Karen.
Say, now that is creative. "Coding," by the way is progressive newspeak for reading into anything whatever neo-Marxist gibberish one wishes. Trouble is, it works both ways. Stay with me, you'll catch on, tixmastr. The more progressive I get, the more counter-propagandistic you'll become until, poof! You'll be a critical thinker and no longer a propaganda victim. Nice reply--you spent some energy on it.
@tixmastr That was the lamest response I've ever read. You didn't debate my statement, so you must agree, albeit begrudgingly. The "racist white guys for Cain" argument is laughable. As for your comment - I was never a Cain supporter to start with, and how do you know he really sexually harassed anyone? I can say you are a thief, but does it mean it's true just because I said it? Where's your proof?
The character Simon Legree in Harriet Beecher Stowe's book "Uncle Toms Cabin" was the black hat, he was the back stabber who informed on others trying to escape to freedom, keeping them in servitude as slaves. Uncle Tom on the other hand was the hero, giving advice and helping others escape to freedom.
The liberals don't like us republicans having our own black idiot. And I didn't think any one could upstage Obama's idiotic version of American exceptionalism. Check, and checkmate. Goodnight America.
Let's see. Obama is black and Herman Cain is not. The haffacrackaa that was raised by whites in non-black neighborhoods is more black than Herman Cain? A real black man. A real American. Raised by blacks in a black neighborhood.
This whole liberal notion that being successful makes you "white" is intended to keep the niggaas in their place. Wake up, black America. You have been had by these "liberal" cracker assholes.
You will see whitey is tryng to lynch Cain now. Wake up.
Eh, still doesn't beat Faux News. Sad thing is, people still support Cain. He wants to raise taxes on everyone, but the top 20%, who are already getting wealthier and wealthier, while the other 80% continues to get poorer and poorer.
Reaganomics has never worked, and it never will. It just creates wealth disparities, and it doesn't create jobs, FACT.
It's great how narrative substitutes for reality. The class warfare narrative seems to have special resilience thanks to the droves of useful idiots that still insist that, because everybody recites it, it must be true. The trickle up poverty narrative is eaqually as true, and it is also supported by empirical reality, as in the Soviet Union, China, North Korea.
If you think you've got the answer, Kim Jung Il has a nice place waiting for you in Pyongyang.
You crazy ass bitch...what's his place? You must know cuz you brought it up. Huh, the only racist here is YOU! You fucking moron! I think EVERYONE on MSNBC is nothing but RACISTS!
Omg! How can she get away with that? No one says or does anything? All I hear is "Thank you for spitting that out" from a voice sounding like it came from Joe S.? What on heaven's earth is happening? How DARE they say such a thing about Herman Cain! Having met him, by no such means is there ANY sentiment like the one she states! Just because SHE feels that way, doesn't mean she can deflect it onto those of us who know what Herman Cain is about and would love to see him in the office of POTUS!
@LClark51 -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
@jonthecharming -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
@stennant15 You would say that, when Herman Cain is a happy successful person who has gone farther in life, on his own merit, than the Joker in the White House ever could. Herman Cain made an unsuccessful pizza company into a successful one. When the debates between Joker Obooboo and Herman Cain start, Cain will mop the floor with the Obooboo trickster/liar/fool. Not a doubt in the world about that.
"a black man who knows his place". So what places has he been? Leading presidential primary candidate, corporate CEO, head of a Federal Reserve Bank etc etc etc. So it hides the racism that we feel comfortable with a black man in those places. Isn't those the kinds of places Martin Luther King dreamed black men and women would occupy? Do liberals even listen and think about the stuff they say?
@repdvm -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
@repdvm Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
@tixmastr This is all about the women's comment. Nevertheless, the harrassment alegations should have been put out by him. I believe the dream is over for Cain. MSNBC welcomes comments such as these.
Well.... My feeling for Cain has not changed. Nevertheless, his advisors did not do there job. I believe the dream is over. First, he says that he didn't know about "any" settlement. Then, last night on Greta he gave details. He didn't handle this very well. This should have been written in a book. This should have been revealed. Now, it will run like water. I believe that Mitt Romney had this leaked. Sadly, he may not even be considered as a VP.
@liberalguy513 let me break it down for you... Cain=actually had a job and knows how to run a company Obama=never had a job and no clue how to run a country and all he does is spend spend spend on useless green jobs that never last. When will liberals stop talking about skin color? They are the ones trying to keep racism alive.
@MetalDetroit You are a lying sack of shit. The day Bush took office the unemployment rate was 4.3%, the day Bush left office the unemployment rate was 8.5%. This information is easily found. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
I voted "Like" for this video because it exposes the mindset of the Left. The Left is becoming more and more desperate to hold their black, Latino and Jewish chattels on the Left's plantation (figuratively speaking). Too bad, Lefties -- the alternate media is blowing bigger and bigger holes in your obsolete Pravda media! The sunshine is making the Lefty rats scurry.
I would counter this ugly speaking woman with this... Now, there is a black conservative. For years I grew up thinking Republicans were racist. Someone brainwashed mom and pop; they in turn brainwashed me. Until I picked up a book: Booker T, Frederick Douglas, MLK, and Hermain Cain. These black men make me very proud. Then I read that the democratic party fought to secure slavery. Sadly, we got brother and sisters voting for him because of his color.
@MetalDetroit This is the liberal playbook; because with Cain they can't say he's racist!!! Therefore, what worked in '91/'92 with Clarence Thomas - they will depict the black man as degenerate sex fiend. Oh by the way have POLITICO reveal that the women are white... Cain predicted that he would be hunted down....
@VenetianSymbol Cain is a Corporation/fed reserve guy, does it really matter if he is in or not? They guy can be spun in circles, obviously with his mixed up stories, he isn't good enough to be a Principal in a H.S. But, because he is Black, he can be considered for president of the united states. GWB was an idiot, Obummer is another version of 'Slick Willy' Clinton, I mean really, I'm sure there are much better 'leaders' than these guys? Obviously it's a sham and those that get nominated=joke
Wow, check out piece on politico.com and you will find all sorts of contradictory statements about the incident. Looks like the end of Cain's run. Maybe he can go hang out with Clarence Thomas and they can swap stories.
@liberalguy513 MSBC's strategy is to hire black analyse to say racist stuff for the Network. Now that's the bottom line... Every person on that network are campaign workers, not serious news anchors. Go smother gravy on it and chew on that! :)
@tixmastr -What are you, 25 years old?In the beginning of the 90's it was sexual harassment haven. Corporations settled because they did NOT want the take the time to litigate - they had insurance so they settled. If you had been accused it would not have made any difference if you were guilty or not. If you just as much as looked at anyone sideways there were those who yell sexual harassment. I hope they nail you on your sexting charges and that they seal so they can nail you 20 yrs from now.
To young people today, who are most likely like liberalguy513 1 hour ago (name says it all) - Just wait all of you with sexting charges - you know, the sexting messages you sent to those you love - they will come back to haunt you in 20 years from and you will all start crying like the babies you are!!!! Whammy on you LOL - For you to say "I just heard that Herman Cain sexually molested two white women." is totally disgusting. Was it mother or sister who filed the complaint? Most likely!
In the beginning of the 90's it was sexual harassment haven. Corporations settled because they did NOT want the take the time to litigate - they had insurance so they settled. If you had been accused it would not have made any difference if you were guilty or not. If you just as much as looked at anyone sideways there were those who yell sexual harassment.
@TheBibleResearcher Cain is a big government statist. Why does he ignore the Constitution on its instruction that gold and sivler are to be the govt.'s money? Why does he ignore it on the Federal Reserve? Why does he think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned? None of that is consistent with a free market.
Why did he reject the free market approach to a burst credit bubble of the Federal Reserve's creation. Why did he support TARP?
@tixmastr oh I get exactly what you trying to do. But it's understandable that with your small libtard brain (see two can play at that game) you don't have the ability to debate. The only thing you probably care about is that the taxpayers give give give and then give some more with Obama as your head Santa Claus. Unfortunately for you libtards this time next year the jig will be up and you''ll have to go out and get a job.
@tixmastr typical liberal, can't debate facts so you call names.
It's too bad those damn academics, trying to be all smart and knowing things about stuff just can't cut it when it comes to governing. That's what happens when one lives in a marxist bubble and not the real world and where their theories almost always fail the practicality test.
@liberalguy513 You are obviously someone who enjoys talking out of their ass, as you don't have a brain to think with. To say this about anyone, no matter whose side your on because on the internet there will always be an idiot like you who will take this statement and run with it. Consider yourself officially jinxed - today it starts - just watch - WHAMMY!!!!
@liberalguy513 That's been the liberal play book since slavery... It took the GOP to end it... Any normal person will denounce this comment by this woman.
MSNBC - all part of Yellow Journalism - they do it so well and it just matches the yellow streak down their backs that appears when they are caught in the crosshairs of fact.
A whammy for Ms. Finney - you classless hypocrite. People of her ilk are the first to yell and scream about "racist" comments of actions. this bitch can't see the forest for the trees. With that attitude, you can bet that one of these days something bad will happen to her - it's called karma.
@tixmastr doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, he or she will win.
For the record though I think Cain would make a fine POTUS, unlike the current academic marxist usurper he's actually run a business in the real world, and not into the ground but successfully.
@joepeeler34 what makes you think I'm a supporter of anyone with an (R) after their name? Do you vote for only (Ds) because they embrace your ideas and principles? Or are you a libertarian who believes the free market means letting anyone who wants to cross our borders in? I've seen plenty of those.
None of these GOP candidates are perfect but after four years of Obama we can't do any worse. We need job creators instead of destroyers.
@joepeeler34 Ron Paul is a Republican isn't he? That would make him part of the same club.
FWIW the primaries is where we try to find the best candidate, for you it's apparently Ron Paul. Cain would do just fine imo and I find him to be far better than Romney or Perry, both RINOS. But ultimately the power will be with Congress, if the Senate flips and the House stays as is the POTUS will need only his hand to sign the bills overturning the last 4 years, starting with the atrocious Obamacare.
@zepper72 Well, he is a real conservative in the traditional sense of the word. If you look at his voting record compared to big govt. neo-cons/establishment R's, it's night and day on many issues.
Cain is a RINO. Where are the spending cuts? What unconstitutional dept.'s has he proposed eliminating.
Ron Paul thinks we need to transitition back to a voluntary welfare society and has said so. Has Cain said anything like that? No.
@zepper72 You are too wrapped up in R's versus D's. Do you know which two presidents increased the regulatory state the most in the last 40-years. Nixon and G.W. Bush.
Do you know who increased the welfare state at the fastest pace since LBJ? G.W. Bush
Who increased the bureaucracies at fastest pace since FDR ? GWB
Do you know where nation-building, foreign policy interventionism, "making the world safe for democracy"came from. The left just as the neo-cons came out of the left.
Which R's other than Paul have advocated that individuals be able to opt out of S.S./Medicare etc.?
What really burns me about Cain and other R's is that they think money, banking, and interest rates should be centrally planned. It's anathema to a free market.
In a free market interest rates, most important price in the economy, go up and down in relation to the supply of savings and the demand for credit.
Govt. money is to be gold/silver with private mintage allowed.
I don't know why R's don't embrace a free market in money, banking, and interest rates. There is a disconnect there. Money is one-half of every transaction made. The interest rate is the price of money. If any price in the economy is to be free market, it should be that one.
Also, R's completely disregard the Constitution and 10th Amendment in regard to the war on drugs, many so-called social issues, abortion, etc. Those are not fed. issues. They are local/state issues.
Why did Cain support the socialist approach to a burst credit bubble of the FED's creation?
We followed the free market approach until 1929. The free market solution is to liquidate debt, let wages and other prices fall, let labor/capital reallocate away from phony bubble activities, and cut taxes/spending.
Cain rejected all of this for a socialist Keynesian stimulus just as GWB did twice.
See "Money, Banking, and Federal Reserve" on YouTube
@zepper72 I think Ron Paul is the only one who takes his oath to the Constitution seriously.
Where does the Constitution say that the U.S. military is to be deployed for nation-building, making the world safe for democracy, foreign-aid, other country's defense, etc.? It doesn't.
Many big govt. R's like Cain ignore the Constitution when it suits them just like the D's.
The Constitution gives Congress (not the FED) the power to COIN (how do you COIN paper?)?
Why did Cain fail to see the housing bubble even just 1 week before the crash. Ron Paul was predicting it from as far back as late 2001 once he saw what the FED was doing with interest rates and the money supply.
He warned in 2003 that people were taking pretend equity out of their homes, and that they and major banks would be under water once the FED-created bubble burst. He predicted the bankruptcy of Freddie/Fannie a full 5-years before it happened.
@joepeeler34: You are SUCH a Ron Pauler, that it's easy as heck to call you out on your discrepancies. Herman Cain was not a politician, by any means, so he couldn't VOTE for any of this -- whereas, Ron Paul WAS! The fact that Herman Cain is a NON-POLITICIAN, is what makes him SO much more appealing to those who have seen one politician after another, strip the office of POTUS from its integrity and run up the tab from one earmark to another! Ha! Nice try, no cigar, anarchist!
@LClark51 You are right, I am an advocate for free markets, sound money, the Constitution, and a republic, not an empire. Principled people are easy to spot.
Cain didn't vote for it, but he is on record for supporting stimulus and TARP.
Cain is an establishment drone. Why does he think interest rates should be centrally planned?
Why did he support the socialist Keynesian solution instead of the free market solution?
@joepeeler34 Bush wasn't a conservative and I supported very little of what he did but in fairness to him he did warn about the coming housing bubble but the democrats refused to do anything. It wasn't just Ron Paul, many saw what was coming.
The statist drone Cain made it worse by advocating a socialist Keynesian (Cainsian?) solution to a problme caused by central planning. Why does Cain think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be set by bureaucrats and not by the market?
A free market solution to a burst credit bubble is to let prices fall, liquidate debt, allow labor/capital to reallocate, let firms fail, and cut taxes/spending.
@tixmastr very seriously, and this is a little harsh, this time next year millions of voters are going to show that they care even less about what you or the projecting racists at that worthless, commie network have to say.
Incredibly jaw dropping racist statement---vicious bigotry and the leftwing media is allowed to do it and gives it a pass. She should be fired, this is far worse than Imus's nappy comment. Democrat plantation mentality on naked display here!
Fire Karen Finney --and take Bashir, Madcow Maddow, Ed Schultz, Lawrence O'Donnell and the Tingler, Chris Matthews with you Karen. You can hang with the losers on Current TV.
Crazy ass bitch don't know what the hell she's talking about, as usual. Typical liberal bullshit...if it aint class warfare, it's race warfare or something of that nature. They are DESTINED to divide the country and get ALL Americans fighting with eachother. I just wish ppl like that crazy bitch would just get on a one way boat somewhere and let Americans live in peace with each other...and they will once ppl like crazy woman in the vid leaves the country.
Liberals are the major source of racism in America. Nothing scares the left more than conservative black Americans who believe in God, are well-educated, work hard, love America, and refuse to identify themselves as victims. They are living refutation of all of the tenets of leftsm, and the left will stop at nothing to demonize them. They might not use rope, but their operatives in the media will nonetheless do everything they can to lynch their histories, character, faith, and motives.
@hookalakah Amen... they started the whole thing... Also, they want you to forget about how they went after Clarence Thomas. Oh... is 90% of the black vote racist??? lol!!!
Any one who refers to them selves or others as right or left is a fool. you have been duped and have no ability to think for your self. Neither party gives a shit about you. your all like a bunch of cattle being herded. Open your minds you idiots.
Yes, you got it - the racist white supremacists support Cain because they want the wealthy black man to govern them. The man who's richer than 99% of the white people in America. Karen you are a joke. MSNBC is a joke.
The black people that know their place in this country are the 95% of black voters on the liberal Democrat Party plantation. If just 10% of them ever figured out what liberalism has done to them, the Democrat Party would never win another national election again.
Herman Cain is a black man who has escaped from the Democratic Party Plantation. Now the Democrats and their slave hunters at MSMBC are unleashing the hounds of hell on him.
Pretty easy to find the racists: 1) Give Cain the nomination. 2) Look for the precincts that have lower Republican voter turnout than 2008. There are a lot of people in this country who will absolutely never vote for a black man. Most of them live here in South Carolina.
@liberalguy513 Rasmussen Poll conducted from Oct. 14-15 Cain 43% Obama 41%. Hah, you must be crazy if you think the GOP doesn't have a chance. Liberal dreams...
Idiotic commentary, especially consider Herman Cain apparently thinks his place is in the White House. Could it be that people like Herman Cain because they like what he has to say, and not just because he is black?
The republican establishment supports Romney. Cain is the Tea Party's guy. Karen Finney is an idiot not to know this.Cain is the anti establishment Romney.
The Tea Party was created because of the Rick Sentili rant on the floor of the Chicago Board Exchange during a CNBC segment. To those who say Ron Paul created the Tea Party, I am calling you all liars and I place your lack of honesty into the same camp as progressives, none.
What's at play here, I'm afraid, is intra-racial racism. As you can plainly see, Cain's fiercist critics are lighter-skinned blacks, or what they used to refer to as "house negroes." They view Cain, a darker-skinned black man, or "field negro," as runaway slave from the plantation - and resent that he's found his version of the "promised land" through sheer will and self-determination. And yes, without the help of the Democratic slave-masters.
@Sorry4DoublePosting The term house negro was not a term designed specifically for light skinned blacks. Rosa Parks and Huey Newton were not only light skinned but they were biracials . And most people did not and still dont view them house negroes. And most black democrats that Cain criticizes are dark skinned. So why would you think it was a battle between dark and light skinned?
@tixmastr Well, drkmriggs is correct, and you are in error. Fascism denotes one brand of socialism. Perhaps you seek to keep that "socialism" part of the NAZI acronym hidden, no? You seem frustrated, tixmastr, another true believer. As Eric Hoffer noted, left and right are in fact interchangeable. The original Marxist dichotomy is between progressive and reactionary. The myth of the right was devised to continue the moral coercion necessary for social "progress."
When Herman and I had intercourse, he wouldn't let me penetrate him anally, so I finished in his mouth. I still can see his cute smile looking up at me as my semen dripped from his chin..
@tixmastr I'm desperate? Please tell me "how I am desperate". Back up your words. What she said was beyond retarded based on the lack of facts, and it was flat out racist. The video is trending 7 to 1 negative over positive, so the majority of the people who have watched and listened to the video feel the same way I do.
@tixmastr quit trying to make conservatism go hand-in-hand with racism. it's just smearing and lying. of course there a some racists who are conservatives. there are racists in every group. you wanting and trying to see racism where it doesn't really exist is a form of racism. you think it's about obama's skin color when it's actually his policies that convervatives don't like. to prove that point look at herman cain's skin color. i mean what bullshit are you talking about??
@tixmastr No, leadership is assuming executive responsibility, which is the work of CEOs, governors, commanders, and presidents. If there's a technocrat out there who found a good idea in a video game, so what? That's their function. Leaders take the idea and share it, implement it, adjust it, etc.
BTW, I neither play nor own any video games, so I confess my ignorance, but even if so, who's to say Sims didn't steal the idea from Herman Cain?
@tixmastr Cf is an abbreviation for conferez, which is French for "look it up." Indeed, you appear to be frustrated yourself, a true-believer, as it were, calling the kettle black. Another transnational propaganda victim, evidently, who would fit right in at the real circle-jerk in Madison. Again, if you don't get it, look it up, just not with kids around.
@tixmastr You're the only one I see here in a "circle-jerk," as you say. You appear to enjoy "circle-jerking." By the way, weren't there some protesters denied a permit for such things? Hmm, you wouoldn't be cowering over your keyboard in Madison, WI by any chance? (cf "Occupy Madison Loses a Permit").
Thanks Ms. Finney, for telling us how we feel. We are too stoopid to figger owt thins foor areselvess, kos wee juss go to klan meatins. What would we do without these smart liberal women ? Too funny. CAIN 2012
Why did he support the Keynesian socialist solution to a burst credit bubble just as Bush did in 2001?
Why did Cain support non-free market TARP?
Why does Cain think that the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned by the FED, an unconstitutional entity?
Why does he reject free market money and embrace a centrally planned fiat paper currency?
@stkt1986 I want. I only wish that he wouldn't claim to be a free market consitutionalists. He's not. He's a big government statists.
I am sick of the R party soiling the name of the free market with corporatism (a type of central planning where firms and govt. collude) and soft socialism and unconstitutional govt. programs and departments.
If Reagan would have lived up to his rhetoric he would have been great. I consider Ron Paul and Barry Goldwater to be real conservatives.
She jus wanna test out sum BIG BLAKKK DICKKKK N BALLS,musty pussy lil paleface cunt
ShortdogdaOG 1 month ago
@tixmastr VERY CUTTING EDGE..1990...
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr and I was simply pointing out your cowardice....
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr In other words you have no proof and are bearing false witness by claiming he's guilty without knowing he's guilty but just assuming he is.
Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Take care.
ForumLight 2 months ago
@tixmastr You don't refute any statements with any facts.""thousands" of articles is a huge stretch.It was his demeanor that helped him more than anything else;Relentlessly positive,optimistic with a successful Resume. The difference between you and me Is I'm not inclined to classify you without knowing you.Got a feeling you;d never say that to my face ,though..a real cyber -warrior you are..
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr I love the way you're incapable of an original thought. Who are "You Guys"?and the Media never did anything for Cain.Ordinary people liked him--inspite of the Media...
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr you're incapable of listening.I was talking about a bigger picture than just the next election;MSNBC ALWAYS does the Democrats' dirty work.
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr You do realize that a ton of people are falsely accused of sexual harassment, do you not? And the more prominant a figure they are, the more they are likely to be subjected to such a false claim. (Even Beiber is not immune to the lies - but he wasn't at least running for President)
Now, bearing that in mind, please offer PROOF that Cain had sex with others. That's right, you cannot. Please cease the lies and hatred.
ForumLight 2 months ago
@tixmastr The Democrats take Black and Hispanic votes for granted;they figure as long as they bribe them with social programs, affirmative action,and non-enforcement of immigration law -they own them;that's why they have to destroy independent thinking minority candidates,particularly if they join the other party;.I don't watch Fox;.;but from watching these ridiculous,malicious, .petty,intellectually lazy hatchet jobs--how can Fox be worse than MSNBC?
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr He was never 'MY CANDIDATE";I liked his style;and it was so obvious how threatened Democrats and the MSNBC people were by him;the sleazy "Uncle Tom" stuff and the ridiculous venom throw at him by MSNBC hacks like Martin Bashir and Lawrence Odonnellmade me like him more;it just provedchow hatefully biased the station is against any Black conservative;they couldn't just fight him on ideas;it was disgraceful;.
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr You can't just make up your own facts;if unsubstabtiated allegations equal a "scandal" regarding Herman Cain,then a President who lies on National television--then admits he lied-and then barely avoids impeachment because of that lie -has to be guilty of scandal also...
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr a la Bill Clinton?
mrbriscoe2001 2 months ago
@tixmastr Sorry you didn't catch the meaning: if you vote for Cain, you're a racist according to her because Cain "knows his place" - if you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist, according to her, because he's black.
With people dishonestly playing the race card, you're racist if you vote for Cain because he's black and racist for not voting for Obama (because the ONLY reason you could POSSIBLY not want to vote for him must be b/c he's black). That's the racism: claiming this nonsense.
ForumLight 2 months ago
LAZY PREJUDICDED PSYCHOBBBLE,,Everything wrong with modern poklitical discourse is embodied in that Finney idiot; Cain's a CEO;that's a pretty good "place"; Finney's the mouthpiece for the party of Teacher Union created Shit Schools and welfare dependency in exchange for votes.Not such a good "place" for blacks..
mrbriscoe2001 3 months ago
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You Liberals don't have A problem when Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, P. Diddy, O.J. Simpson, and all those gang bangers that you keep coddling go after white women, but if Herman Cain does it, you go out, and lynch him! If one of your niggers go after white women, that's okay, but if an 'uncle tom' does, 'off with his head'! You liberals might as well start wearing baggy pants, and gold chains . Then again, you keep confiscating out guns so you can do drive byes on Wall Street.
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Launchpad05 3 months ago
Bashir said "thank you for spelling that out". This is a case of we only see that which is truly in us.... she is scared of black men... sorry.. but that is what it seems to me... anyone think I spelled it out correctly? ;-)
joojoo1234 3 months ago
so they are calling him an Uncle Tom
wow.
BeyondLame 3 months ago
@tixmastr I'm not trying to make herman cain president, but his white supporters are the farthest thing from what the karen finney described.... good question tho ticket master... sick screen name bro
HatchettBasketball 3 months ago
@HatchettBasketball You should see the comments she made last night.... This woman has to go - sorry!
VenetianSymbol 3 months ago
@tixmastr what ya talkin bout ticket master?
HatchettBasketball 3 months ago
Karen you are very hot!!!!
juandeldiablo696 3 months ago
@tixmastr Considering little to no information has come out about the incident. And neither of the victims are willing to come forward pretty much says that it was probably no big deal. Unlike cheating on your wife while leader of the free world then publicly lying about it to the entire country. One seems worse than the other.
loopo455 3 months ago
@tixmastr you're such a fucking idiot. are you forgetting about Bill "BJ" Clinton?
loopo455 3 months ago
A black man who knows his place.... we're talking about a man running for President - the most powerful position in the world, commander of our armed forces, face of the free world. His supporters (implied to be racist) want a man like Cain in the most powerful position in world history. Great logic Karen.
HatchettBasketball 3 months ago
WTF?
pdc2878 3 months ago
@tixmastr Stop it, you're scaring me!
LetreJete 3 months ago
@tixmastr
Say, now that is creative. "Coding," by the way is progressive newspeak for reading into anything whatever neo-Marxist gibberish one wishes. Trouble is, it works both ways. Stay with me, you'll catch on, tixmastr. The more progressive I get, the more counter-propagandistic you'll become until, poof! You'll be a critical thinker and no longer a propaganda victim. Nice reply--you spent some energy on it.
LetreJete 3 months ago
@tixmastr That was the lamest response I've ever read. You didn't debate my statement, so you must agree, albeit begrudgingly. The "racist white guys for Cain" argument is laughable. As for your comment - I was never a Cain supporter to start with, and how do you know he really sexually harassed anyone? I can say you are a thief, but does it mean it's true just because I said it? Where's your proof?
sludgepickle 3 months ago
Karen Finney is Simon Legree
The character Simon Legree in Harriet Beecher Stowe's book "Uncle Toms Cabin" was the black hat, he was the back stabber who informed on others trying to escape to freedom, keeping them in servitude as slaves. Uncle Tom on the other hand was the hero, giving advice and helping others escape to freedom.
SurlyCurmudgen 3 months ago
This was the coded trigger for the lynching to begin. All the actors know their parts. The scripts are memorized.
LetreJete 3 months ago
The liberals don't like us republicans having our own black idiot. And I didn't think any one could upstage Obama's idiotic version of American exceptionalism. Check, and checkmate. Goodnight America.
realitychk69 3 months ago
Let's see. Obama is black and Herman Cain is not. The haffacrackaa that was raised by whites in non-black neighborhoods is more black than Herman Cain? A real black man. A real American. Raised by blacks in a black neighborhood.
This whole liberal notion that being successful makes you "white" is intended to keep the niggaas in their place. Wake up, black America. You have been had by these "liberal" cracker assholes.
You will see whitey is tryng to lynch Cain now. Wake up.
666sigma 3 months ago
Eh, still doesn't beat Faux News. Sad thing is, people still support Cain. He wants to raise taxes on everyone, but the top 20%, who are already getting wealthier and wealthier, while the other 80% continues to get poorer and poorer.
Reaganomics has never worked, and it never will. It just creates wealth disparities, and it doesn't create jobs, FACT.
Tactic11 3 months ago
@Tactic11
It's great how narrative substitutes for reality. The class warfare narrative seems to have special resilience thanks to the droves of useful idiots that still insist that, because everybody recites it, it must be true. The trickle up poverty narrative is eaqually as true, and it is also supported by empirical reality, as in the Soviet Union, China, North Korea.
If you think you've got the answer, Kim Jung Il has a nice place waiting for you in Pyongyang.
LetreJete 3 months ago
What a dumb bitch.
superman13fu 3 months ago
@superman13fu took the words right out of my mouth. what an ignorant thing to say.
libertyhopeful18 3 months ago
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You crazy ass bitch...what's his place? You must know cuz you brought it up. Huh, the only racist here is YOU! You fucking moron! I think EVERYONE on MSNBC is nothing but RACISTS!
sandio713 4 months ago
She is a racist!
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sandio713 4 months ago
Omg! How can she get away with that? No one says or does anything? All I hear is "Thank you for spitting that out" from a voice sounding like it came from Joe S.? What on heaven's earth is happening? How DARE they say such a thing about Herman Cain! Having met him, by no such means is there ANY sentiment like the one she states! Just because SHE feels that way, doesn't mean she can deflect it onto those of us who know what Herman Cain is about and would love to see him in the office of POTUS!
LClark51 4 months ago
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@LClark51 -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
CONSERVATIVES ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES
SuperBlackWoman1 4 months ago
Karen Finney is a sick idiot Nazi scumshat. The fact that she's working in journalism is a joke and a farce.
jonthecharming 4 months ago
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@jonthecharming -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
CONSERVATIVES ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES
SuperBlackWoman1 4 months ago
All Negroes are not NIGGERS !!! Cain is a NIGGER !!!
stennant15 4 months ago
@stennant15 You are an idiot.
mcv47 3 months ago
@stennant15 You would say that, when Herman Cain is a happy successful person who has gone farther in life, on his own merit, than the Joker in the White House ever could. Herman Cain made an unsuccessful pizza company into a successful one. When the debates between Joker Obooboo and Herman Cain start, Cain will mop the floor with the Obooboo trickster/liar/fool. Not a doubt in the world about that.
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Go fuck yourself, racist cunt.
JewishDefender 2 months ago
"a black man who knows his place". So what places has he been? Leading presidential primary candidate, corporate CEO, head of a Federal Reserve Bank etc etc etc. So it hides the racism that we feel comfortable with a black man in those places. Isn't those the kinds of places Martin Luther King dreamed black men and women would occupy? Do liberals even listen and think about the stuff they say?
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@repdvm -Your a hypocrite Herman Cain has said worst by calling black liberals brainwashed plantation slaves this is a racist insult but White Cons love to see Cain hating against his own black race.When Obama was running for president he never called anyone hateful names because it doesn't sound presidential but Herman Cain will say anything to please his White Masters the Koch Brothers
CONSERVATIVES ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES
SuperBlackWoman1 4 months ago
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@repdvm Herman Cain didn't know that China ALREADY HAS NUKES, said he was going to prevent them from getting nukes. I kid you not. More embarrassing than the sexual accusations against him.
/watch?v=U5HiIgbHAzQ
vechorik 3 months ago
Libs are afraid
zombies8u 4 months ago
@zombies8u No, just amused.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@tixmastr This is all about the women's comment. Nevertheless, the harrassment alegations should have been put out by him. I believe the dream is over for Cain. MSNBC welcomes comments such as these.
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
Well.... My feeling for Cain has not changed. Nevertheless, his advisors did not do there job. I believe the dream is over. First, he says that he didn't know about "any" settlement. Then, last night on Greta he gave details. He didn't handle this very well. This should have been written in a book. This should have been revealed. Now, it will run like water. I believe that Mitt Romney had this leaked. Sadly, he may not even be considered as a VP.
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
The liberals are attacking Cain now in hopes he won't get the nomination. Then it will be too late.
Jourdansway 4 months ago
@Jourdansway It seems more likely that this was leaked by one of his fellow Republican challengers....Mitt perhaps? Perry?
liberalguy513 4 months ago
I'm confused by liberals. Obama = good black man Cain = bad black man ?????
44warjunkie 4 months ago
@44warjunkie I'm confused by conservatives. Cain = good black man Obama = bad black man ?????
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 there is no black with conservatives. They are not the ones who were wearing t-shirts saying "My President is Black!" in 09.
44warjunkie 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 let me break it down for you... Cain=actually had a job and knows how to run a company Obama=never had a job and no clue how to run a country and all he does is spend spend spend on useless green jobs that never last. When will liberals stop talking about skin color? They are the ones trying to keep racism alive.
Ccola3 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 Let me put it to you this way....Under Bush - unemployment was 5.5%. Under Obama - unemployment is 14% .
Cain has ideas that can ACTUALLY help get the economy back on track.
Case CLOSED.
MetalDetroit 3 months ago
@MetalDetroit You are a lying sack of shit. The day Bush took office the unemployment rate was 4.3%, the day Bush left office the unemployment rate was 8.5%. This information is easily found. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
liberalguy513 3 months ago
@tixmastr Better to have a vivid imagination and a brain then judgement without one.
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
I voted "Like" for this video because it exposes the mindset of the Left. The Left is becoming more and more desperate to hold their black, Latino and Jewish chattels on the Left's plantation (figuratively speaking). Too bad, Lefties -- the alternate media is blowing bigger and bigger holes in your obsolete Pravda media! The sunshine is making the Lefty rats scurry.
greengringo2003 4 months ago
She should go work out! Maybe, she'll lose some of that fat lip...
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
I would counter this ugly speaking woman with this... Now, there is a black conservative. For years I grew up thinking Republicans were racist. Someone brainwashed mom and pop; they in turn brainwashed me. Until I picked up a book: Booker T, Frederick Douglas, MLK, and Hermain Cain. These black men make me very proud. Then I read that the democratic party fought to secure slavery. Sadly, we got brother and sisters voting for him because of his color.
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
@VenetianSymbol Great post !
MetalDetroit 4 months ago
@outforsushi Makes perfect sense !
Conservatives don't want to vote for a black man (Obama) = racism
Conservatives DO want to vote for a black man (Cain) = racism
Meanwhile - Once again - Liberals PROVE they are the true BIGOTS !
MetalDetroit 4 months ago
@MetalDetroit This is the liberal playbook; because with Cain they can't say he's racist!!! Therefore, what worked in '91/'92 with Clarence Thomas - they will depict the black man as degenerate sex fiend. Oh by the way have POLITICO reveal that the women are white... Cain predicted that he would be hunted down....
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
@VenetianSymbol Cain is a Corporation/fed reserve guy, does it really matter if he is in or not? They guy can be spun in circles, obviously with his mixed up stories, he isn't good enough to be a Principal in a H.S. But, because he is Black, he can be considered for president of the united states. GWB was an idiot, Obummer is another version of 'Slick Willy' Clinton, I mean really, I'm sure there are much better 'leaders' than these guys? Obviously it's a sham and those that get nominated=joke
blite13 4 months ago
Amazing racism. If the GOP backed a Jew, would they be antisemitic then? Or the Jew would know his place too?
250kad 4 months ago
@250kad Exactly.
eclecticdufus 4 months ago
@250kad I would think a Jew would have enough problems from the fundamentalist wing of the Republican party.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@tixmastr The woman made a irresponsible comment... I am impartial when it comes to statements such as hers.
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
Wow, check out piece on politico.com and you will find all sorts of contradictory statements about the incident. Looks like the end of Cain's run. Maybe he can go hang out with Clarence Thomas and they can swap stories.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 It won't happen to Cain...
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
@VenetianSymbol Ha, ha.....what a difference a month makes.
liberalguy513 1 day ago
@liberalguy513 MSBC's strategy is to hire black analyse to say racist stuff for the Network. Now that's the bottom line... Every person on that network are campaign workers, not serious news anchors. Go smother gravy on it and chew on that! :)
VenetianSymbol 1 day ago
@liberalguy513 Thomas was correct: a high tech lynching. That's what liberals do to punish conervative black men and women.
eclecticdufus 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 Kinda of nice to seeing someone's personal life on display to make a political point hah? You're vicious, lol!!!
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
They just caught Cain in his first lie about the incident. First he said he was not aware of any settlement to the two women, now he says he was.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 Clinton got away with much worst! He got away with rape...
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
@tixmastr -What are you, 25 years old?In the beginning of the 90's it was sexual harassment haven. Corporations settled because they did NOT want the take the time to litigate - they had insurance so they settled. If you had been accused it would not have made any difference if you were guilty or not. If you just as much as looked at anyone sideways there were those who yell sexual harassment. I hope they nail you on your sexting charges and that they seal so they can nail you 20 yrs from now.
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
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To young people today, who are most likely like liberalguy513 1 hour ago (name says it all) - Just wait all of you with sexting charges - you know, the sexting messages you sent to those you love - they will come back to haunt you in 20 years from and you will all start crying like the babies you are!!!! Whammy on you LOL - For you to say "I just heard that Herman Cain sexually molested two white women." is totally disgusting. Was it mother or sister who filed the complaint? Most likely!
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
In the beginning of the 90's it was sexual harassment haven. Corporations settled because they did NOT want the take the time to litigate - they had insurance so they settled. If you had been accused it would not have made any difference if you were guilty or not. If you just as much as looked at anyone sideways there were those who yell sexual harassment.
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TheBibleResearcher 4 months ago 3
@TheBibleResearcher Cain is a big government statist. Why does he ignore the Constitution on its instruction that gold and sivler are to be the govt.'s money? Why does he ignore it on the Federal Reserve? Why does he think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned? None of that is consistent with a free market.
Why did he reject the free market approach to a burst credit bubble of the Federal Reserve's creation. Why did he support TARP?
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@tixmastr so if true then that makes you a well-paid libtard. But a libtard nonetheless.
zepper72 4 months ago
@tixmastr Only fools, Tixmastr; I annoy only fools.
LetreJete 4 months ago
@tixmastr oh I get exactly what you trying to do. But it's understandable that with your small libtard brain (see two can play at that game) you don't have the ability to debate. The only thing you probably care about is that the taxpayers give give give and then give some more with Obama as your head Santa Claus. Unfortunately for you libtards this time next year the jig will be up and you''ll have to go out and get a job.
zepper72 4 months ago
They fired Hank Williams immediately on his statement!!! Media is so biased now day...
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
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@VenetianSymbol and that after years of "Bush is Hitler" signs. They can dish it out but they can't take it.
eclecticdufus 4 months ago
@tixmastr typical liberal, can't debate facts so you call names.
It's too bad those damn academics, trying to be all smart and knowing things about stuff just can't cut it when it comes to governing. That's what happens when one lives in a marxist bubble and not the real world and where their theories almost always fail the practicality test.
zepper72 4 months ago
I just heard that Herman Cain sexually molested two white women.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 You are obviously someone who enjoys talking out of their ass, as you don't have a brain to think with. To say this about anyone, no matter whose side your on because on the internet there will always be an idiot like you who will take this statement and run with it. Consider yourself officially jinxed - today it starts - just watch - WHAMMY!!!!
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 That's been the liberal play book since slavery... It took the GOP to end it... Any normal person will denounce this comment by this woman.
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
By the way Karen, that was a double whammy to you, honey!
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
MSNBC - all part of Yellow Journalism - they do it so well and it just matches the yellow streak down their backs that appears when they are caught in the crosshairs of fact.
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
A whammy for Ms. Finney - you classless hypocrite. People of her ilk are the first to yell and scream about "racist" comments of actions. this bitch can't see the forest for the trees. With that attitude, you can bet that one of these days something bad will happen to her - it's called karma.
GeboreninHolland 4 months ago
Another liberal idiot talking out of her ass.
steverayrapp 4 months ago
@tixmastr doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, he or she will win.
For the record though I think Cain would make a fine POTUS, unlike the current academic marxist usurper he's actually run a business in the real world, and not into the ground but successfully.
zepper72 4 months ago
@zepper72 Why do you support candidates simply because they have an R in front of their names? Why not embrace ideas and principles instead?
In a free market there is no Federal Reserve or centrally planned interest rates. That's where the bubbles come from.
Why did Cain, Romney, and Perry support socialist Keynesian stimulus?
Why did the establishment R's not understand there was a bubble? Ron Paul predicted all of this many years in advance.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 what makes you think I'm a supporter of anyone with an (R) after their name? Do you vote for only (Ds) because they embrace your ideas and principles? Or are you a libertarian who believes the free market means letting anyone who wants to cross our borders in? I've seen plenty of those.
None of these GOP candidates are perfect but after four years of Obama we can't do any worse. We need job creators instead of destroyers.
zepper72 4 months ago
@zepper72 Why would you think I support D's given that in my last post I critisized central planning.
Cain is a Democrat as far as I am concerned.
What unconstitutional govt. departments has big govt. Cain proposed ending? What trillion dollar cuts (as with Ron Paul) has he proposed?
Why does he think money, banking, and interest rates are to be centrally planned by the FED?
The FED, collectivized risk, planned interest rates, fiat paper currency, etc. are anathema to a free market.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 Ron Paul is a Republican isn't he? That would make him part of the same club.
FWIW the primaries is where we try to find the best candidate, for you it's apparently Ron Paul. Cain would do just fine imo and I find him to be far better than Romney or Perry, both RINOS. But ultimately the power will be with Congress, if the Senate flips and the House stays as is the POTUS will need only his hand to sign the bills overturning the last 4 years, starting with the atrocious Obamacare.
zepper72 3 months ago
@zepper72 Well, he is a real conservative in the traditional sense of the word. If you look at his voting record compared to big govt. neo-cons/establishment R's, it's night and day on many issues.
Cain is a RINO. Where are the spending cuts? What unconstitutional dept.'s has he proposed eliminating.
Ron Paul thinks we need to transitition back to a voluntary welfare society and has said so. Has Cain said anything like that? No.
joepeeler34 3 months ago
@zepper72 You are too wrapped up in R's versus D's. Do you know which two presidents increased the regulatory state the most in the last 40-years. Nixon and G.W. Bush.
Do you know who increased the welfare state at the fastest pace since LBJ? G.W. Bush
Who increased the bureaucracies at fastest pace since FDR ? GWB
Do you know where nation-building, foreign policy interventionism, "making the world safe for democracy"came from. The left just as the neo-cons came out of the left.
joepeeler34 3 months ago
Which R's other than Paul have advocated that individuals be able to opt out of S.S./Medicare etc.?
What really burns me about Cain and other R's is that they think money, banking, and interest rates should be centrally planned. It's anathema to a free market.
In a free market interest rates, most important price in the economy, go up and down in relation to the supply of savings and the demand for credit.
Govt. money is to be gold/silver with private mintage allowed.
joepeeler34 3 months ago
I don't know why R's don't embrace a free market in money, banking, and interest rates. There is a disconnect there. Money is one-half of every transaction made. The interest rate is the price of money. If any price in the economy is to be free market, it should be that one.
Also, R's completely disregard the Constitution and 10th Amendment in regard to the war on drugs, many so-called social issues, abortion, etc. Those are not fed. issues. They are local/state issues.
joepeeler34 3 months ago
I just don't think people like you get it.
Why did Cain support the socialist approach to a burst credit bubble of the FED's creation?
We followed the free market approach until 1929. The free market solution is to liquidate debt, let wages and other prices fall, let labor/capital reallocate away from phony bubble activities, and cut taxes/spending.
Cain rejected all of this for a socialist Keynesian stimulus just as GWB did twice.
See "Money, Banking, and Federal Reserve" on YouTube
joepeeler34 3 months ago
@zepper72 I think Ron Paul is the only one who takes his oath to the Constitution seriously.
Where does the Constitution say that the U.S. military is to be deployed for nation-building, making the world safe for democracy, foreign-aid, other country's defense, etc.? It doesn't.
Many big govt. R's like Cain ignore the Constitution when it suits them just like the D's.
The Constitution gives Congress (not the FED) the power to COIN (how do you COIN paper?)?
joepeeler34 4 months ago
Why did Cain fail to see the housing bubble even just 1 week before the crash. Ron Paul was predicting it from as far back as late 2001 once he saw what the FED was doing with interest rates and the money supply.
He warned in 2003 that people were taking pretend equity out of their homes, and that they and major banks would be under water once the FED-created bubble burst. He predicted the bankruptcy of Freddie/Fannie a full 5-years before it happened.
Cain was cheerleader for the bubble.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34: You are SUCH a Ron Pauler, that it's easy as heck to call you out on your discrepancies. Herman Cain was not a politician, by any means, so he couldn't VOTE for any of this -- whereas, Ron Paul WAS! The fact that Herman Cain is a NON-POLITICIAN, is what makes him SO much more appealing to those who have seen one politician after another, strip the office of POTUS from its integrity and run up the tab from one earmark to another! Ha! Nice try, no cigar, anarchist!
LClark51 4 months ago
@LClark51 You are right, I am an advocate for free markets, sound money, the Constitution, and a republic, not an empire. Principled people are easy to spot.
Cain didn't vote for it, but he is on record for supporting stimulus and TARP.
Cain is an establishment drone. Why does he think interest rates should be centrally planned?
Why did he support the socialist Keynesian solution instead of the free market solution?
What big cuts has he proposed?
He is a statist.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 Bush wasn't a conservative and I supported very little of what he did but in fairness to him he did warn about the coming housing bubble but the democrats refused to do anything. It wasn't just Ron Paul, many saw what was coming.
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The statist drone Cain made it worse by advocating a socialist Keynesian (Cainsian?) solution to a problme caused by central planning. Why does Cain think the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be set by bureaucrats and not by the market?
A free market solution to a burst credit bubble is to let prices fall, liquidate debt, allow labor/capital to reallocate, let firms fail, and cut taxes/spending.
Statist Cain rejects the free market.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@tixmastr very seriously, and this is a little harsh, this time next year millions of voters are going to show that they care even less about what you or the projecting racists at that worthless, commie network have to say.
zepper72 4 months ago
Tix, you don't know a thing about me, nor I you. If you have a bone to pick, just answer my charges.
hookalakah 4 months ago
Yes; we know his place; the White House.
MrJoeDrager 4 months ago
Incredibly jaw dropping racist statement---vicious bigotry and the leftwing media is allowed to do it and gives it a pass. She should be fired, this is far worse than Imus's nappy comment. Democrat plantation mentality on naked display here!
eclecticdufus 4 months ago
This may seem harsh I know but liberalism is a mental disease.
zepper72 4 months ago
Fire Karen Finney --and take Bashir, Madcow Maddow, Ed Schultz, Lawrence O'Donnell and the Tingler, Chris Matthews with you Karen. You can hang with the losers on Current TV.
bylindawyatt 4 months ago
@bylindawyatt He did thank her right? LOL!
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
Another dumb MSNBC ass-wipe. Oh well....
wesley11221 4 months ago
@wesley11221 The sad thing is that liberals DEMONIZE Fox news - yet they have nothing to say about the bias coming out of MSNBC.......
MetalDetroit 3 months ago
Crazy ass bitch don't know what the hell she's talking about, as usual. Typical liberal bullshit...if it aint class warfare, it's race warfare or something of that nature. They are DESTINED to divide the country and get ALL Americans fighting with eachother. I just wish ppl like that crazy bitch would just get on a one way boat somewhere and let Americans live in peace with each other...and they will once ppl like crazy woman in the vid leaves the country.
sandio713 4 months ago
Liberals are the major source of racism in America. Nothing scares the left more than conservative black Americans who believe in God, are well-educated, work hard, love America, and refuse to identify themselves as victims. They are living refutation of all of the tenets of leftsm, and the left will stop at nothing to demonize them. They might not use rope, but their operatives in the media will nonetheless do everything they can to lynch their histories, character, faith, and motives.
hookalakah 4 months ago
@hookalakah Amen... they started the whole thing... Also, they want you to forget about how they went after Clarence Thomas. Oh... is 90% of the black vote racist??? lol!!!
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
Any one who refers to them selves or others as right or left is a fool. you have been duped and have no ability to think for your self. Neither party gives a shit about you. your all like a bunch of cattle being herded. Open your minds you idiots.
1spoon1fork 4 months ago
@1spoon1fork You're totally right!
VenetianSymbol 4 months ago
Yes, you got it - the racist white supremacists support Cain because they want the wealthy black man to govern them. The man who's richer than 99% of the white people in America. Karen you are a joke. MSNBC is a joke.
sludgepickle 4 months ago
The black people that know their place in this country are the 95% of black voters on the liberal Democrat Party plantation. If just 10% of them ever figured out what liberalism has done to them, the Democrat Party would never win another national election again.
PalmBeachPaul 4 months ago
Herman Cain is a black man who has escaped from the Democratic Party Plantation. Now the Democrats and their slave hunters at MSMBC are unleashing the hounds of hell on him.
lamkoid 4 months ago
Pretty easy to find the racists: 1) Give Cain the nomination. 2) Look for the precincts that have lower Republican voter turnout than 2008. There are a lot of people in this country who will absolutely never vote for a black man. Most of them live here in South Carolina.
dfgyuhdd 4 months ago
No need for everyone to get upset, we all know Cain doesn't have a chance.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
@liberalguy513 Rasmussen Poll conducted from Oct. 14-15 Cain 43% Obama 41%. Hah, you must be crazy if you think the GOP doesn't have a chance. Liberal dreams...
JLE102191 4 months ago
@JLE102191 It's a long way to the nomination.
liberalguy513 4 months ago
Idiotic commentary, especially consider Herman Cain apparently thinks his place is in the White House. Could it be that people like Herman Cain because they like what he has to say, and not just because he is black?
SaudaraLink 4 months ago
The republican establishment supports Romney. Cain is the Tea Party's guy. Karen Finney is an idiot not to know this.Cain is the anti establishment Romney.
xpandergt 4 months ago
The Tea Party was created because of the Rick Sentili rant on the floor of the Chicago Board Exchange during a CNBC segment. To those who say Ron Paul created the Tea Party, I am calling you all liars and I place your lack of honesty into the same camp as progressives, none.
xpandergt 4 months ago
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Ron Paul 2012!
nbarile18 4 months ago
What's at play here, I'm afraid, is intra-racial racism. As you can plainly see, Cain's fiercist critics are lighter-skinned blacks, or what they used to refer to as "house negroes." They view Cain, a darker-skinned black man, or "field negro," as runaway slave from the plantation - and resent that he's found his version of the "promised land" through sheer will and self-determination. And yes, without the help of the Democratic slave-masters.
Sorry4DoublePosting 4 months ago
@Sorry4DoublePosting bingo
xpandergt 4 months ago
@Sorry4DoublePosting The term house negro was not a term designed specifically for light skinned blacks. Rosa Parks and Huey Newton were not only light skinned but they were biracials . And most people did not and still dont view them house negroes. And most black democrats that Cain criticizes are dark skinned. So why would you think it was a battle between dark and light skinned?
rashadkijani 4 months ago
@tixmastr Well, drkmriggs is correct, and you are in error. Fascism denotes one brand of socialism. Perhaps you seek to keep that "socialism" part of the NAZI acronym hidden, no? You seem frustrated, tixmastr, another true believer. As Eric Hoffer noted, left and right are in fact interchangeable. The original Marxist dichotomy is between progressive and reactionary. The myth of the right was devised to continue the moral coercion necessary for social "progress."
LetreJete 4 months ago
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When Herman and I had intercourse, he wouldn't let me penetrate him anally, so I finished in his mouth. I still can see his cute smile looking up at me as my semen dripped from his chin..
artiebarnes 4 months ago
@tixmastr I'm desperate? Please tell me "how I am desperate". Back up your words. What she said was beyond retarded based on the lack of facts, and it was flat out racist. The video is trending 7 to 1 negative over positive, so the majority of the people who have watched and listened to the video feel the same way I do.
xpandergt 4 months ago
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rashadkijani 4 months ago
@tixmastr quit trying to make conservatism go hand-in-hand with racism. it's just smearing and lying. of course there a some racists who are conservatives. there are racists in every group. you wanting and trying to see racism where it doesn't really exist is a form of racism. you think it's about obama's skin color when it's actually his policies that convervatives don't like. to prove that point look at herman cain's skin color. i mean what bullshit are you talking about??
rodge2001 4 months ago
@tixmastr No, leadership is assuming executive responsibility, which is the work of CEOs, governors, commanders, and presidents. If there's a technocrat out there who found a good idea in a video game, so what? That's their function. Leaders take the idea and share it, implement it, adjust it, etc.
BTW, I neither play nor own any video games, so I confess my ignorance, but even if so, who's to say Sims didn't steal the idea from Herman Cain?
LetreJete 4 months ago
@tixmastr good call - i meant to type "racist" - thanks for correcting this.
drkmriggs 4 months ago
@tixmastr Cf is an abbreviation for conferez, which is French for "look it up." Indeed, you appear to be frustrated yourself, a true-believer, as it were, calling the kettle black. Another transnational propaganda victim, evidently, who would fit right in at the real circle-jerk in Madison. Again, if you don't get it, look it up, just not with kids around.
LetreJete 4 months ago
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It seems unions are corporations, too.
LetreJete 4 months ago
@tixmastr It seems unions are corporations, too.
LetreJete 4 months ago
@tixmastr You're the only one I see here in a "circle-jerk," as you say. You appear to enjoy "circle-jerking." By the way, weren't there some protesters denied a permit for such things? Hmm, you wouoldn't be cowering over your keyboard in Madison, WI by any chance? (cf "Occupy Madison Loses a Permit").
LetreJete 4 months ago
So Karen - precisely how many white conservatives did you interview before forming your fascist opinion of them? Yeah - that's what I thought!
drkmriggs 4 months ago
Thanks Ms. Finney, for telling us how we feel. We are too stoopid to figger owt thins foor areselvess, kos wee juss go to klan meatins. What would we do without these smart liberal women ? Too funny. CAIN 2012
stkt1986 4 months ago
@stkt1986 Cain is a big government statist.
Why did he support the Keynesian socialist solution to a burst credit bubble just as Bush did in 2001?
Why did Cain support non-free market TARP?
Why does Cain think that the most important price in the economy, the interest rate, should be centrally planned by the FED, an unconstitutional entity?
Why does he reject free market money and embrace a centrally planned fiat paper currency?
joepeeler34 4 months ago
@joepeeler34 So don't vote for him.
stkt1986 4 months ago
@stkt1986 I want. I only wish that he wouldn't claim to be a free market consitutionalists. He's not. He's a big government statists.
I am sick of the R party soiling the name of the free market with corporatism (a type of central planning where firms and govt. collude) and soft socialism and unconstitutional govt. programs and departments.
If Reagan would have lived up to his rhetoric he would have been great. I consider Ron Paul and Barry Goldwater to be real conservatives.
joepeeler34 4 months ago
And msnbc wonders why their ratings are in the toilet.Sounded to me like she called Cain a back-o-the-bus negro.
stkt1986 4 months ago
Typical projection form the folks like Finney who think they own the nominally black Barack 0bama.
AllBobsAllTheTime 4 months ago