"Idealist" vs. "Realist"

[Melehete]

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[anakmudajaman]

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[bebeheuy]

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[imegatrone]

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[infinummjb]

History does not repeat itself but it rhymes, therefore life is not like a circle nor straight line but more like a spiral.

[TearsOfWar1]

I think it's a good idea to be a little of both. Not blinding optimism, but also not be depressingly pessimistic. Not that I am saying that idealists are blinded by optimism, and realists are pessimistic. I am just saying they do have some connections.

[avrilinblood]

BTW I am an OBJECTIVE REALIST and see solutions to everything without the nativity of an idealist, through logic and reason alone

[avrilinblood]

There is an explanation about anything, the reason we fail to learn from our mistakes and history appears itself is not because degradation are embedded into our nature - this is propaganda bullshit, and because of that propaganda we don't even try to learn from history and repeat the same stupid mistakes, because we believe it is impossible to avoid...

Put yourself together...

[AtheistBuckeye]

2007? Damn, this video is old! O.o

[Pulseczar1]

@spots1327 Cynicism and negativity is "cool", especially to angsty kids.

[NakedLadyMudFlap]

A good psychologist can test you and tell you if your thinking is logical or not. The test has been developed over decades and is based on many years of research. I suggest that you allow yourself to be tested and take the results to heart. I doubt if you will or that you would believe the results even if you did. Your thinking is scattered and self righteous.... I suggest that you try to become more grounded.

[NakedLadyMudFlap]

God Help Us!

[nobodyitellyou]

if the world had more people like you, it would definitely be a better place. Of that I have precious little doubt. You've a good heart and a good head, my friend. Please don't let anybody or anything change that.

[thecreepyguy]

You should give up coffee

[100Lavender]

shes almost out of college now

[VindictivePheasant]

@sleepwulf You should it's stupid.

[Sipman100]

thank you for this, 

[MysticalAgnosticism]

It seems a person should use their own experiences with reason to draw clear conclutions,not using emotions as a impulse to drive their personal beliefs and decisions.Reality isn't defined by us we are defined by reality,the entirety of the human race is subtle thought processes combined with eternal energies in a state of transmutation.Lifeforms are a side effect of this process.Not much else is real about us than this.Belief systems are a form of thought control,bottom line.

[duvexy]

Sounds like the democrats and republicans.

[aadil02]

holy shiiit ur fking hot

[bassmanforchrist]

i know many people who have been through lots of bad stuff, and yet remain 'idealists'. its all about perspective. God uses the hard expieriences in life to draw us to Him, and once we surrender and give Him our brokeness, He can fix us up, often through what we think are negative expieriences. but if hard times produce a harvest of good things in our lives, they arent bad. everyone has hard times. we can allow them to work for good or bad in our lives depending on what we do with them.

[KCpunK666]

how do you not have more subscribers... I wish you still made videos!

[HaveLucidDreamz]

I'm a realist when facing reality, but an idealist in my internal world. I am talking just in normal terms not in philosophy lingo ftr.

[masluxx]

things that want to grow want the light, and stand tall to reach it, stretch to embrace it.

[BonazaiGirl]

I think a more appropriate term would be cynicism than realism, since reality, as cruel as it may be isn't as cruel as everyone takes it to be.

When it comes to the debate, I would fall in between the both; I believe that the world is very cruel and flawed and that some things are beyond help, but that as long as people who wish to help others and do the right thing, as well as have the strength to go through life with an idealistic and optimistic view then the world can be bearable.

[mechnar9]

Idealism is the thesis that the world we experience consists of mental entities that do not have existence outside of perception, as characterised by Berkeley and possibly Hume.

[UncomfortableSilence]

I'm Cynical. Most people find that to be pessimistic. I don't. Pessimism borders on nihilism. A cynic, simply can find humor in the world, the classic sort of irony. Also, cynics like criticism, which is good because it builds. It promotes intelligence. I think it's a little bit more relative. Who's to say that anyone is wrong for being either one. You perceive things the way you do. Also, I don't think you are talking about realists. I think you are talking about pessimists.

[Shnufkin]

You're right, realists are spineless and pathetic. It was the realists that stood by as the Nazis consolidated their power in 1933. It's the realists that drag humanity down. Scum.

[timberwulfzero]

I think that the female character in your example is both an idealist and a pessimist.

She is idealistic in that she ignores objective material reality in favour of a narrative based on her subjective perception of material reality.

So, I think it's not a question of "Realist" versus "Idealist", but rather "Materialist" versus "Idealist."

Idealists, in general, can be pretty frustrating unless you happen to share their same perspective.

[studentoflife01]

I'm a dualist...Do you know what dualism is?

[studentoflife01]

You're a mean person...

[joostvanhezik]

I the question is not idealism versus realism, but it is idealism versus cynism.

I think so because these words tell you that it is about interpretation.

Reality is the basis for interpretation.

And your not bitter. You are optimistic and right about the realists being pessimists/cynisits.

keep on the good thinking

J

[UncomfortableSilence]

@joostvanhezik Cynicism does not equal pessimism. They are different.

[echoes]

i think idealism came before realist. For example Charles darwin and his theory on Evolution??

[Mpealow]

i belive realism and idealism should work in harmony together. A painter sees a picture in their minds eye then works through whatever to bring it into reality. Bottom line........we should be able to create whatevever we want without hurting ourselves or anyone else.....Peace out!

[brwnboy187]

lol, this video is misleading

you are takling about idealism - in terms of having an ideal, and going after it - not to the philosophical position of Kant, where we construct the world, and the world is nothing apart from our construction

all of you are debating and talking about the second one, this girl is talking about the first one.

[NassimHarameinVedas]

Great video, is this Jay Leno's daughter?

Doubt it, since she's way smarter than that NWO media sellout.

Anyway, Kunt is outdated as is this entire argument. We now have Quantum Physics/Mechanics, Grand Unified Field Theory, oh and not to mention "transcendental idealism" from 15,000 years ago.

Besides, "labeling" is an unenlightened concept to begin with. Maya(Illusion) or what You might call "this reality" is rather a subjective experience. Generally it may not hurt to read & think. NO TV

[hbrtmran]

you're right nobody has an actual definition of reality. Everybody, at various degrees, has a different perception of what is real. "realists" are those whose perception is mostly similar to that of most of humanity. "idealists" are those with a significant degree of difference in their perception of reality. Idealists provide variance and diversity into humanities idea of what is real. Variance in species has always been a good thing. variance in ideas is no different. We need idealists like u

[shreyans84]

My take - "Idealists end up happier than realists because they dont compromise on what they think is right" :)

[cookiesonsteve]

Primitivism is circular and not progressive while linear time is progressive. From what I've read, there is a struggle between idealism being progressive while realism is not.

[khamallag]

I advice you to read the book titled (BOOK ONE) by "Elaref Ahmed" regarding the end of agnosticism you will find it in Amazon or Age of light

[derelict844]

Good thoughts, but the taxonomy is exactly the issue. Labeling is can never be exact. You need both idealism and realism, depending on the context. Even a single idea can be both, some idea like going to the moon. Realism without idealism is dehumanizing and spiritless; idealism without realism can make for faulty plans and problem solving. We need both. We just need to make logical decisions about the contexts in which we apply our realistic and idealistic frames of mind.

[rockyqw12]

Who hurt you dear? Who hurt you?

[bryher2]

It's been said, by more than one writer, I think, that "an optimist is one who thinks this the best of all possible worlds, and a pessimist in one who fears the optimist is right". ;-)

[MrJohnJamal]

I choose idealism. Ask yourselves: Shouldn't everything start or be based on our ideas?

[VeritasAmantesVocat]

dont let those people discourage you.

IF you want your understanding of life

to continue to grow you have to Leave

them Behind, and learn to not talk about

it with them.

You cant prove anything to a moron.

so there is no point in arguing with them.

[warlockboyburns]

*sticks out his tongue*

[warlockboyburns]

are ideas ideals? when you have an idea of what someone means... are you bending the meaning to what you want to hear?

[warlockboyburns]

this idealism vs realism thing is making me degenerate

[sandythebear]

if im an optomistic quiet relaxed person am i an idealist?

[warlockboyburns]

if you have ideas you are

[Hopefailedyou]

about 4:25 your talking about nihilism not realism

[Simric22]

This is Kant against Nietzsche! Lol!!

[RDpapichulo]

HOW SMART AND CUTE U ARE. TRUST ME YOU';; GET IT WITH TIME, LIKE THE IDEALIST EXAMPLE YOU GAVE, TIME HAS A TENDENCY TO BUILD YOU UP AND MAKE U WISER. YOU'LL GET IT MORE LATER. BUT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE TRUTH IS THAT MOST PEOPLE LIVE IN A DREAM WORLD THAT THEY THINK IS REAL, KIND OF LIKE THE MATRIX, THE REAL REALIST ARE ALWAYS PERSECUTED. lIKE WITH KILLING THE MESSENGER.

[PPocket1984]

The author of this video is jumping between different meanings of the terms idealist and realist.

An idealist essentially is someone who thinks reality is subjectively defined where as a realist believes reality is 'out there' in the 'real world' (excuse the very basic, incomplete definitions). This girl is using the the term idealist to denote an idealisitc person... Where she says 'idealist', she should have said optimist, and where she says 'realist', she should have said pessimist.

[sexdrugsRnR]

false dichotomy

[warlockboyburns]

good video x

[warlockboyburns]

idealism isnt contrary to realism

[aliceXXXmika]

why do you think that?

[warlockboyburns]

it never occurred to me to have one without the other

[evenesteven]

Nice to cross an eloquent girl. Philosophically speaking, 99.9% of people are idealists (ie platonian. For a strong taste of realism, check out my blog, you should enjoy it...

beingandquirckiness

[georgeferatu]

Lorraine Hansberry

[Countcordeaux]

By the way, spots1327, you're cute. Those realist meanies like to deflate every dream for a better world. Were you crying? About the book? Adorable. Have a nice day.

[Countcordeaux]

Bakernas, you rule the universe. Or should I say, we, who are One, rule (and are) the Universe!

[Jetix88]

i so agree with you ...being an idealist is so much harder than a realist ... thats why only 15 % of the population is idealist ...

[Israe5l]

"realism" and "idealism" is defined differently in moral (in your case) and in epistemology (in academic philosophy in general).

I like your video. Very clear and with emotion.

"idealist" believes in freedom. But how can a person lose his "freedom"? External coercion can not take away one's inner freedom. Or can it? Then maybe it wasn't true freedom to start off. How can one achieve true freedom? I am thinking of a balance. One needs to live with balance.

[bakernas]

Idealism Rules the universe!!

[Nark717]

fuck you tube is so funny.

[theLichKing1]

thanks for explaining the terms in such a simple way :)

[dkjan786]

Man I am lost....

[MSlapik]

This doesn't have to do with realism or idealism. What you say about these philosophies isn't true. You can look it up. Philosophically, realism and idealism mean 2 different things than in a common context. The cycle verse progressive idea has nothing to do with either one.

[nzbestari]

Although, a stubborn realist intrigues me with their simple, logical ways, I am almost certain that I could never be a 100% realist.

To sum it up, quoting from David Russell Waddell: "Idealists develop realistic ideas that carry them until their fantasies come true. Realists carry idealistic fantasies that give them something to look forward to the next day."

And I am a (young) idealist, who is learning to approach my ideas realistically.

[NIKhilhell]

nice...kinda makes me feel better..id like to think of me as an idealist turnin into a realist coz of .... its a lil bit depressin when uve gotta do things u think are wrong but uve got no alternative...neat comment

[Belkinlamp]

"Our fathers were farmers and mechanics so that we could be philosophers and poets." Realism gives birth to idealism.

Perhaps its more like a pear.

[Belkinlamp]

shit did i say pear i mean a peech! PeEEeCH!

[nahallac11]

i believe that idealist base their beliefs from emotions and realist base them from observation and facts. i agree with your statement that "it is OK to have emotions, but open your eyes to fact" which is another way of saying what you said, or at least this is my interpretation

[nahallac11]

this was nice, but general. i consider myself a realist, and i will explain why. for instance, on the stance of humanity "getting along" i believe that this will NEVER happen because there will always be an Opportunist, whether previously good or bad, who will seek fundamental desires of humans: power, popularity, money, etc. (i.e. "Animal Farm") so i believe the only way we could "get along" is if all our desires cease to exist, which would take away from what we fundamentally are

[jagga333]

so let me ask you this, since there is always an oppurtunist (which is the truth by nature), im going to assume that this oppurtunist is always looking for ways to exploit others (in today's society for money). This makes the oppurtunist greedy only caring about themselves. now since this oppurtunist is greedy does this mean we all must act as the oppurtunist acts, in order to prevent ourselves from being takin advantage of by this oppurtunist.

[QuestionYourReality]

this is my new name, i used to be nahallac11. and to answer, no, we don't all act like that but SOME of us always will... and to tell you the truth a very large number of people are like this... it is human nature, and it doesn't have to be deceitful like your example... it could just be for attention or love or their religion or anything, HUMANS WANT THINGS and will do what they have to to get them... this is not something you or anyone else will EVER be able to change... that is realistic

[QuestionYourReality]

the opportunist is only a very small part of the equation

[NIKhilhell]

u kno a friend of mine posed a similar questtion he said u try to change 10 ppl to idealists and well only one of em changes and the rest are still idealists than that one person suffers....but the fact is that of the 10 ppl ..u and i are in tht list of 10 too ...(tuff to xplain)..and its our attitude which can make the diff ..if more of us do the rite thing...it could mean a lot more than 1 on 10....jus how we look at things...

[kanyew3s]

2U4U

the last 1:14 was amazing, thanks for this.

[allixpeeke]

I'm inclined to say you're a realist. I'd say I'm a realist. This doesn't mean you can't have ideals, but their basis must be in reality. Although Machiavelli is considered a realist, I consider him an idealist. I consider Hobbes one, too. They build their whole philosophies on unfounded "foundations." You build it on the logic of the world around you.

Cheers,

Alex Peak

[mindywhite]

yep welcolme to reality. good luck convincing realists to shoulder responsibility outside their own circle of conern, to them lifes all about self-gain. at least i can respect those that cant understand idealism because they cant envisage possibilities.

[Batusaixtra]

read Emerson

[temujoe]

Finally, reality, given our individual subjectivity, is difficulat to agree upon. Reality is interpreted as raw data from our senses, and then abstracted into taxonomy if you will, for practical understanding and consumption, based on the library of lables you contain in your brain. So, very subject to distortion, and varying from person to person. Again, to me =)

[temujoe]

Heya, I liked the topics you chose. To me, a realist is similar to what you described, but specifically, people who are ignorant of the past, and don't imagine a different future, so they are then stuck in the present. While an idealist is someone who can imagine a different reality, whethere realistic or not.

[tejayce]

very good point. the difficulty to imagine something beeing different than it is, is something that i observe with most people. a lot of people are even already disturbed if its done for entertaintment purpose only.

[jwbxx1]

Good video, but a lot of poor people in generally fall into the realist category because of economic anguish. It's easy to be an idealist when one has the opportunity to succeed. But when one has been dealt multiple blows from society, it's quite easy to fall back into that realist category.

[spots1327]

I agree, and that fits well with tejayce's definition [above]. But just because that outlook is achieved when you are beaten down does not mean that it is a correct position. When people are struggling for basic needs they revert to broken animals.

[temujoe]

Hmm, I wasn't even thinking of how they achieved the outlook. I think the outlook achieved when beaten down can just be pessimism as you said, as a result of depression. It's easy to understand that people remain in that state when they are aware of nothing better, and, very importantly I think, they are surrounded by others of a similar mentality. People who are down seem to like company and don't like when you leave the group; that would remind them of their situation.

[leadbellydan]

What are your ideals? Idealists tend to have rediculous ideals which are not reasonable. Any ideal situation would surely be temporary - things always carry on changing.

[darkstar1one]

I don't think "idealist" and "realist" are useful terms. There's nothing to stop an 'idealist' also being a 'realist' and all realists are idealists - afterll, realism is an idea.

[tejayce]

YES give up coffee .. please .. dont let yourself get drawn into psychotropic substances.

what you describe as realists .. had nothing to do with reality. its more a lack of perception of control over life, which is normal in a world in which you are first totaly controlled by parents and then by a government ... right? :P .. people who look down on you as an idealist have my contempt :P

[spots1327]

I like your definition! Much better :]

[VonManavis]

@spots1327

Yes, listen to him, give up on coffee and eventually die of coronary disease or a stroke. What the fuck is wrong with the world giving these "life" changing guidelines. Coffee doesn't cause any harm, contrary it prevents artery clog up and cell oxidation. Unless you are abusing coffee, in which case you should CUT DOWN on coffee. I just watched a Hate Week video, that's why I write with this attitude. Don't thank me though. I know I am awesome.

[dacherx]

good ideas.  keep thinking. the answers didn't get easier or clearer as I got older. but don't give up hope.

Bitter? Bitter Coffee? Add milk. :)

[HanifXHier]

Idealistic Taxonomy. . .Interesting concept.