Bunun neresi tanbur ya, halis mulis bağlama bu ayrıca bakıyorum da bağlamamızı sahiplenmeye başlamışlar bağlamayı sahipsiz mi buldunuz kardeşim, SAPINA KADAR TÜRK ÇALGISIDIR BAĞLAMA. :)
please dont mix between kurdish music and turkish music, because kurdish music are much older from the turkish music and has a very deffirent chrachtor, and turkish or mongol music is very new and far away from kurdish music,this is Yarestani music and some of the Turkman become Alawis(which is kurdish religion) after they invated the area which they call it Turkey today
اي عاشقان اي عاشقان من خاك را گوهر كنم/ وي مطربان اي مطربان دف شما پر زر كنم/ اي تشنگان اي تشنگان امروز سقايي كنم/ وين خاكدان خشك را جنت كنم كوثر كنم/ من غصه را شادي كنم گمراه را هادي كنم/ من گرگ را يوسف كنم من زهر را شكر كنم/ ياهو يا عالي نژاد تو زنده اي
صوفي چرا هشيار شد ساقي چرا بيكار شد٠ مستي اگر در خواب شد مستي دگر بيدار شد٠ خورشد اگر در گور شد عالم ز تو پر نور شد٠ چشم خوشت مخمور شد ديوانگي ناچار شد٠
Not it isn't. The "tembûr" is of Mesopotamian origin. The "string instrument" as such is very common in many parts of the world. But not the "tembûr".
@multik5001 torke khar, only 20% of iranian people have a turkish origin. mostly of iranian are persians, and also other iranic people as kurdish, baluchies, tayiks, lurs,.. etc.
Very nice music. Very similar with Turkish/Kurdish Alevi/Kizilbash culture. This shows that there is a common collective heritage no matter what the peoples' nation is. Respects.
Not only very similar. The tanbur is an ancient sumerian lute, which only survived in the kurdish Ahl-i Haq group in the kurdish region of iran. The Ahl-i Haq culture therfore shares the similarities with Alevism that you talked about, a very good conclusion of yours!
@consunzione "Historians cannot agree about the exact origins of the Kurdish/Persian tanbur, however the first documentation of its existence comes from ancient Babylon"
@pogoism1 I have searched and watched many iconography, from ancient iran and mesopotamia, egypt. You can see lutes, a very few with pearshaped lutes but are commonly played with mezrab. There is no iconography about something like shor mezrab together with pearshaped lute. Kurdish Tamireh is more a technic and a repertoire than an instrument. If I see a pear shaped lute it can be saz, dotar, tambur, tambura.... How can I know that is the kurdish one? Only if I see shor mezrab, but we don't have
@pogoism1 I will say more... there is no medieval of late iconography about this instrument... This doesn't mean that it's not very old, we know that it has been played by Yaresan for nearly 1000 years, so it has a previous long history. But maybe what we hear is an instrument very ancient, like saz, dotar, dombra ecc... played with a technic invented during 900 years by Ahl e Haq for their spiritual intents. The most beautiful composition have not more than 300 years.
@consunzione And this is not the real Tanbur. It's not the sacred repertoire nor the not sacred traditional one. This is a mix: Tanbur technic with folk persian music composed by this player.
@kabuklu Abi, There is a common heritage because they are similar people or of different ancient tribes. When you say Turkish they are mostly converted indigenous people they are not genetically or culturally 'Turkish'. This vast portion of today's culture was here before the Oghuz came in the Oghuz occupied territories. I still believe Oghuz cultures is prevalent in some genres like in Alevi music and the Bozlaks but its mixed with indigenous culture.
Dear goldenpark2009! I strongly recommend you to study more before making full of yourself. We are of course NOT muslims all. Millions and millions of Kurds and Iranians are not muslims and are not considering being it at all. The group you are listening to know are Kurds and playing the holey instrument of Temùre (Tenbur) whiche is holey to the followers of Yari religion, those who are called Yarsan. You need to study more friend. So NO thanks.
Seyyed Khalil was a Nematullahi Gonabai Darwish and whole poem is about Imam Ali (as). He was a shia and his lyric was to extreme for the sunni extremist of the area who killed him. Some people say Iran's Government was behind his killing but Wahabi mentality is more like it.
if you think sunnies have killed him, I am sure you have never been in kermanshah, just government is behind killing him, dont try to make problem between different religions in kermanshah,
Well, there are some theories! The most obvious is that it came by force. And menioning alis` name here and there is nothing more than showing a degree of respect in order to safe the soceity from the aggresive and violent regimes and foriegn invadors and cultures.
Tanbur is also considered holy by Shii Muslims and they think it represents body of Ali. In this video, you can see name of Ali written on that percussion.
"There is mention in the Hittite civilisation of a stringed instrument called a TIBULA. It is generally agreed that this was in all probability a long-stemmed stringed instrument. Texts from those times reveal that it was used to accompany the spoken word and dancing. All of this inevitably leads one to the opinion that the roots of the instrument go back to Hittite and Sumerian times. The word tambur was later used in Iran and central Asia for pear-bodied instruments ."
So first it was Turkic (Central Asian Nomadic, ancestors of Turks), Hittities and Chinese texts confirm this...then later the word and an instrument that flowed out of it was named tambur by Persians.
how about you surf western encyclopedias, i quoted from it word for word.
instead being a douche ignorant dumbass...but then again you are anti-turk persian-kurd-armenian-greek coward bitch who got their ass kicked by turks and now is upset ;)
You idiot, there is no Turkish instrument. This is Kurdish you Mongolian. Your roots is Mangolia not Middle East and not Anatolia which you stole and occupied
Listen you idiot, Persians have no Sufi sect that's called Yaresan and/ or Ahli Haq. These religious sufi group has been originated in Eastern Kurdistan. This instrument is revered and so respected that once its brought to the Jem (for an idiot like you is the word for assembly) is taken out and kissed by all participants. You do not have this culture. Persians discovered the instrument and used it in their Suneti Music. The regions where Tamora is played are Kurdish regions. Have manners idiot
all the things u said are wrong, pooped out of the vagina of ur ape mother. read an encyclopedia once a while instead of this brainwashed propaganda u hear in your own little town, hehe.
Also there is not one shred of evidence pertaining to it's use for religious purposes outside Kurdish regions of Eastern Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan), these regions including Kermanshan, Sine, (Sanandaj), Lurdistan and Elam. Keep the discussion civil, because I challenge you if you can get one evidence to suggest that Tamora is religious instrument used in by Persian nation and even if there is, it will merely be copied culture from Kurds.
Does anybody know of any music that I can download that is similar to this? That I could put on my Ipod or something? I think it is one of the most beautiful things that I have ever heard, but I live about as far from the East as possible.
If somebody could help me with this I would appreciate it.
It is unfortunate that so many Turks are so insecure. God doesn't care about your ego or your flag. There are many instruments in the Middle East and Central/South Asia that have similar names. "Tanboor" is a nifty Sudanese lyre. "Tar" is a lute or a drum, depending on where you are and whom you ask. These are Kurds and this is their Tanbur. No doubt about it. Guess what confusion it causes my fellow Americans when I say "I play setar"?
so you can claim something to be of your flag, but turks cant? are you all hypocrite or what?
you are iunsecure for not acknowlegibg there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the obes you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read uo on it, then start your bs about insecure rubbish ;)
To rainbowpal3: mate, you could have copied and pasted a link to a page on the net referring to your so called "Chinese" resources so we all can read it and see for ourselves that you are not relying on your urban legends. Just do it instead of posting a non-scientific claim over and over again.
Where? I didn't see it. What? You want me to google "rainbowpal3's Chinese resource"? Come on. Give us a break and stop playing with words. The tanbur you talk about is played totally different. It's only a similar name you have in turkey. Do you really know anything about music?
The Iranian cultures pre-date the Turkish presence in the middle east and Central Asia.
Its amusing how everyone speaks of "Turk" like its the most ancient culture in that region. Its not!
The Turks of Turkey, Azerbaijan are ONLY Turkish speakers, they have NOT got Turkish blood. If they did they would look Chinese like the Turkomans, Uzbeks, etc.
thats the point you are missing...its not about turkish presence in the middle east...turks are from central asia and there the instrument called tanbur has been around for around 4000 years even the ancient chinese wrote about it.
this is a kopuz. the iranians were introduced to the kopuz and called it tanbur after the ancient turkic instrument which pre dates iran and persia.
lol thats such bullshit! 4000 years? there are not even any records or turks at all before 2000 years ago! im so sick of turks ripping off iranian, and arabic culture and claiming it as their own. shit even your dance is copied from greeks, and georgians! think! turks are from the STEPPES! where would they find the wood to make these damn instruments then?!! also dont' speak for a minute as if u kno jack about history, u should at least read it before u try to sound like an expert.
there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the ones you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read up on it, then start talking rubbish ;)
lol, there are no such records, such vague claims are not worth my time. Anyone can claim anything by siting obscure texts which are not at anyone's disposal, and most likely do not exist, as you did.
keep on believing in your own myths which have not been recorded and keep ignoring the tangible texts in chinese museums....maybe it makes you sleep better believing in lies of your own culture ;p
music was a well developped tradition in the iranian plateau when the turks were still pastoral tribes in the steppes. there are thousands of sassanid court musicians, with their names and careers well recorded, who's works remain to this day.
dont' be so full of shit, there are no chinese records of turkic tanburs, i'l have to see it to believe it. If these records of the chinese truly existed it would be well publicised knowledge easy to come across.
calling someone a liar without any proof is a sin according to the teachings..you know that right?
how about you first do your own research about the origin of turks described by the ancient chinese, which isnt just propaganda from your iranian side?
pkk, the coward terrorist organisatin that kills civilians then hides in theior caves behind their wives ;) your name gives you away. kurdo fighter, lol.
First of all, you don't know me, so stop accusing me of something. Secondly, I am not a supporter of PKK, I sympathize them. Everything is not black and white, only for racists and/or extremists. And there is no proof on PKK killed those innocent people.
What so dumb about that comment? Yes, I have never seen any proof of that. Can you show me?
Yes, I only sympathize them. I struggle for a Kurdistan, not a recognition of the kurdish identity as PKK has as goal.
When did I made a racist comment? What I said is true, you turks came from mongolia. Or are you going to claim the turks are native people of anatolia? If so, I won't bother talking with low intellects.
you are a dumb terrorist supporter if you believe what you just said. pkk murdered more than 30,000 turks, most civilians. you agree with them murdering civilians. dont say there is no proof, most countries say pkk is terrorist organisation that murders civilians, dumbass.
second, you mentioned mongolia in a negative way, like the people who come from there are lesser than your sister killing race. thats racist, idiot :P
You are one disgusting pathetic terrorist supporter.
PKK is a known terrorist organisation who murder innocent civilians. Anyone who says they don't is an idiot and no word that comes from them should be taken serious. And I am not even Turkish to say this.
You are obviously more stupid then a child. I have said it many times, I do not support them, I sympathize them, you sure do not understand the difference. But that's because you only see everything in black and white. People like you are the ones who create war, persecute others, and lies thru your teethes.
Honor killings happens in every nation. Many ethnic people do this more or less. Just because of the video that yezidi girl which was stoned, doesn't make 40 million kurds the same as 5 of those murders.
You are the one who thought it of a negatively way, not me. I consider it as facts.
The only racist here is you, like the recent quote you gave me: "are lesser than your sister killing race".
You should consider understanding the mirror quote again.
You are an idiot. Since when did I defend honor killings? I said honor killings exist in many cultures and other ethnic people has those too. Am I wrong?
I have heard those too, I do live in Europe too. Because media have made two cases big doesn't it mean every kurdish family is like that, like rainbowpal3 thinks but in a racist way.
I am glad too see you wrote iranian and not persian :) Good that you tell those turks the truth, it appears their goverment and turkic history/culture is full of lies. Well that maybe is so because of their walking from mongolia.
The big cat has your whore of mom we nique you we them Turkish strong(hardly) as Turkish and pettite one whore as you who has to ériter of her mom the big whore hahahaha kept silent your fact metre by Turkish one I comprent then
The big cat has your whore of mom we nique you we them Turkish strong(hardly) as Turkish and pettite one whore as you who has to ériter of her mom the big whore hahahaha kept silent your fact metre by Turkish one I comprent then
Your mere the chienn big you his(her,its) batard young demand has your mom if you and not 1 foster child small son of whore you knows I have to rever of you you tournertu to turn(shoot) and I have to flush the toilet you has disappeared and plouf big mede hahahahahaha super marrand I am 1 lad who asssure 1 true step as certain girl poo hahhahaha
It is not tanbur , tanbur is also turkish instrument but not like that , this name is kopuz , it is an ancient of baglama ( saz )..It is in oldest turkish instrment
PLEASE! This instrument is a TANBUR! It is an instrument used during zooastrian time! ANd that was thousands of years before the Turks started arriving in the middle east! I have nothing against Turks or nothing, I'm just saying that this IS Tanbur! Tanbur is an ancient zoroastrian instrument , not Turkish even though Turks Do have it in their music!
I liked this clip this is really good and relaxing and frees human from a lot of stresses and other garbage. Sitting in the Nature with friends and listening nice nostalgic song, beautiful.
--Origin of all musical instruments mentioned below is Dombira. It is simple instrument. As of requirements it was customized added some extra stings, changed size and shape etc.
Remnants found in Akkad and Sumer same with those of Syberia. Shamans might have some connections.
so much disinfo here....usually by kurds, armenians, iarnians and everyone else who hates turks....its getting old, get over it guys, we turks will not go away, ok?
this instrument you see and hear is NOT a tanbur, but a kopuz. tanbur is this, watch and listen :
watch?v=4S4LyJ9msB0
it is the first instrument of the turks and from this many instruments came includign ut, saz, kopuz, cumbus, ecventually guitar, etc.
My friend, this is Tanbur and it history pre-dates Turks.
How can Iranians hate Turks?
Why make such ignorant comments?
Many (not all) of these instruments (saz) are Iranian in name and origin, even the Radif/Magham system was derived from the Sassanian times. Turks hadn't entered modern day Turkey during then and in fact, the Tanbur even pre-dates the Sassanians.
we have an own isntrument called tambur. way back from central asia, thousands of years ago...it is as old as the first civilisations. this what you see is what we turks call kopuz.
BTW my dear , if u wanna talk English u gotta try more , cus there is no meaning for PEOPLES , the plural word for Person is PEOPLE , there no S at the end , and u better respect to what do people believe In .
Ya siz neden bogle konusuyonuz , Ben IRANLIYIM , soyum AZERI , 2 sene Turkiye de yasadim , Turklerin dedigi Tanbur Baska bi saz Iranlilarin baska , Bogle tartismaya gerek yok , Eger Avrupadaki music universitelerindeki kitablara bakarsaniz , Tanbur dedikleri saz daha cok Iran tenburuna Benziyo , mutlaga Turk tenburla bir alakasi yok , ayrica Kendim music ogrencisiyim ,havadan soz atmiyorum , hepinize saglik dilerim.
It's not a tambur, this instrument it's the old father of baglama( between Kopuz and Baglama) Iranien (Acem) and kurdish people Know it by the way of Shaman Turkish peoples.
In fact the music is universal and every people can play baglama same the guitar.
The big cat has your whore of mom we nique you we them Turkish strong(hardly) as Turkish and pettite one whore as you who has to ériter of her mom the big whore hahahaha kept silent your fact metre by Turkish one I comprent then
abicim burda bütün türkiye türkler ve orta asya türklere diyorum bu kürt yada fars irkindan gelenler yada armenie boklamalara tartismaya gerek deyil en iyi örnek kurdalo bilmedi bokdan bazediyor!olum hersey bizde geliyor diye kizkaniyorlar en cok hükümdarlik khaganatlik biz kurduk kizkaniyorlar heyt atam heyt cin yapdirdik duvar!farslilari soyduk!!anadolu saptedik yunani kovduk!heyt atam heyt:-)
Tembûr (not saz as turks call it) is a kurdish instrument.
The turks are a mixture of everything, their culture is mix of Kurdish/Arabic/Persian/Armenian and their language is 60% loanwords from other languages.
Turks are even genetically mixed.
Persians have another kind of tembûr and kurds have a totally different, because they don't play the same songs.
Kurdish is more dancing and energetic, and persian is more poetry
Ay xoda zor xoshe
So Good I love it so much
My God bless your soul
dear Farmanesh
TheSunEast 1 month ago
This is incredible.
keroine9 4 months ago
smoked a big fat bowl of some mighty fine bud and this music sounds really good now.
vutEwa 5 months ago
arkadaşlar bu tanbur değil tenbur
diyez01 6 months ago
Bunun neresi tanbur ya, halis mulis bağlama bu ayrıca bakıyorum da bağlamamızı sahiplenmeye başlamışlar bağlamayı sahipsiz mi buldunuz kardeşim, SAPINA KADAR TÜRK ÇALGISIDIR BAĞLAMA. :)
oguzkagankeles 7 months ago
Ruhat shad baradar
gmcrash 7 months ago
please dont mix between kurdish music and turkish music, because kurdish music are much older from the turkish music and has a very deffirent chrachtor, and turkish or mongol music is very new and far away from kurdish music,this is Yarestani music and some of the Turkman become Alawis(which is kurdish religion) after they invated the area which they call it Turkey today
keykaws 7 months ago
that is not tanbur. tanbur's voice is very very different. if you want to listen tanbur, you listen tanbur-i cemil bey...
himoneful 9 months ago
یا علی
مددی
سید خلیل خدا بیامرزتت
نفسش حقه
arshawiir 9 months ago
اي عاشقان اي عاشقان من خاك را گوهر كنم/ وي مطربان اي مطربان دف شما پر زر كنم/ اي تشنگان اي تشنگان امروز سقايي كنم/ وين خاكدان خشك را جنت كنم كوثر كنم/ من غصه را شادي كنم گمراه را هادي كنم/ من گرگ را يوسف كنم من زهر را شكر كنم/ ياهو يا عالي نژاد تو زنده اي
fredzombi 11 months ago
TANBUR is different
nasahnarif 11 months ago
This is not tanbur beard men are playing
nasahnarif 11 months ago
Can anyone provide a translation for this song/zikr?
mumumountain 1 year ago
صوفي چرا هشيار شد ساقي چرا بيكار شد٠ مستي اگر در خواب شد مستي دگر بيدار شد٠ خورشد اگر در گور شد عالم ز تو پر نور شد٠ چشم خوشت مخمور شد ديوانگي ناچار شد٠
fredzombi 1 year ago 2
wow
raheembeckham 1 year ago
these people are dervishes
shocktrauma13 1 year ago
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ShahrochAsheghan 1 year ago
can people stop talking tribes and countries and please listen to this music
set6the6word6afire 1 year ago 6
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Um, women? yeah.
hoquqzan 1 year ago
Here the Qizilbash Turks of Iran. /watch?v=sEe05OpwM6M
multik5001 1 year ago
This instruments are orginally from the Qizilbash Turkmens of Iran. 60% of Iran have Turkic origin, like Azeris, Afshars, Turkmens, Qashqais etc.
multik5001 1 year ago
@multik5001
Not it isn't. The "tembûr" is of Mesopotamian origin. The "string instrument" as such is very common in many parts of the world. But not the "tembûr".
Qizilbashi 1 year ago
@multik5001 torke khar, only 20% of iranian people have a turkish origin. mostly of iranian are persians, and also other iranic people as kurdish, baluchies, tayiks, lurs,.. etc.
fucking turkish fascist. youre soooo funny!
corderitodedios69 1 year ago
wonrrrrderfulll!
israelmonrroy 2 years ago
Very nice music. Very similar with Turkish/Kurdish Alevi/Kizilbash culture. This shows that there is a common collective heritage no matter what the peoples' nation is. Respects.
kabuklu 2 years ago 15
@kabuklu but this one has spiritual thing inside man u should be with them and fly your inside with them, this kind a pray right now
jimsystem 1 year ago
@jimsystem this is also the same for alevi people. check this: watch?v=CvxbLUq27Hs
kabuklu 10 months ago
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@kabuklu @kabuklu but this one has spiritual thing inside man u should be with them and fly your inside with them, this kind a pray right now
jimsystem 1 year ago
@kabuklu
Not only very similar. The tanbur is an ancient sumerian lute, which only survived in the kurdish Ahl-i Haq group in the kurdish region of iran. The Ahl-i Haq culture therfore shares the similarities with Alevism that you talked about, a very good conclusion of yours!
pogoism1 6 months ago
@pogoism1 How can you say that is sumerian?
consunzione 5 months ago
@consunzione "Historians cannot agree about the exact origins of the Kurdish/Persian tanbur, however the first documentation of its existence comes from ancient Babylon"
pogoism1 5 months ago
@pogoism1 I have searched and watched many iconography, from ancient iran and mesopotamia, egypt. You can see lutes, a very few with pearshaped lutes but are commonly played with mezrab. There is no iconography about something like shor mezrab together with pearshaped lute. Kurdish Tamireh is more a technic and a repertoire than an instrument. If I see a pear shaped lute it can be saz, dotar, tambur, tambura.... How can I know that is the kurdish one? Only if I see shor mezrab, but we don't have
consunzione 5 months ago
@pogoism1 I will say more... there is no medieval of late iconography about this instrument... This doesn't mean that it's not very old, we know that it has been played by Yaresan for nearly 1000 years, so it has a previous long history. But maybe what we hear is an instrument very ancient, like saz, dotar, dombra ecc... played with a technic invented during 900 years by Ahl e Haq for their spiritual intents. The most beautiful composition have not more than 300 years.
consunzione 5 months ago
@consunzione And this is not the real Tanbur. It's not the sacred repertoire nor the not sacred traditional one. This is a mix: Tanbur technic with folk persian music composed by this player.
consunzione 5 months ago
@kabuklu Not really, because Sayyid is a kurd, too.
pogoism1 4 months ago
@kabuklu Abi, There is a common heritage because they are similar people or of different ancient tribes. When you say Turkish they are mostly converted indigenous people they are not genetically or culturally 'Turkish'. This vast portion of today's culture was here before the Oghuz came in the Oghuz occupied territories. I still believe Oghuz cultures is prevalent in some genres like in Alevi music and the Bozlaks but its mixed with indigenous culture.
donmarley69 4 months ago
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The word 'Tanbur' is originally from Sumerian. Thus, TANBUR is Persian.
TAMBUR originates from Central Asia.
Saz, Dutar & Komuz are originally from Turks.
Dutar is a Persian word but it is pure Turkish like the Tambur. Tambura is a family of DOMBURA and the word TAMBUR is also derived from it.
TAMBUR & TANBUR are not the same and have different sounds.
VizardMaskedSoldier 2 years ago
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goldenpark2009 2 years ago
Dear goldenpark2009! I strongly recommend you to study more before making full of yourself. We are of course NOT muslims all. Millions and millions of Kurds and Iranians are not muslims and are not considering being it at all. The group you are listening to know are Kurds and playing the holey instrument of Temùre (Tenbur) whiche is holey to the followers of Yari religion, those who are called Yarsan. You need to study more friend. So NO thanks.
HKirmashani 2 years ago
Seyyed Khalil was a Nematullahi Gonabai Darwish and whole poem is about Imam Ali (as). He was a shia and his lyric was to extreme for the sunni extremist of the area who killed him. Some people say Iran's Government was behind his killing but Wahabi mentality is more like it.
feesabeal 2 years ago
if you think sunnies have killed him, I am sure you have never been in kermanshah, just government is behind killing him, dont try to make problem between different religions in kermanshah,
mirazi87 2 years ago
how did then Ali come into the myth of Yari.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
Well, there are some theories! The most obvious is that it came by force. And menioning alis` name here and there is nothing more than showing a degree of respect in order to safe the soceity from the aggresive and violent regimes and foriegn invadors and cultures.
HKirmashani 2 years ago
lol.
harmonicamajor 1 year ago
Tanbur is also considered holy by Shii Muslims and they think it represents body of Ali. In this video, you can see name of Ali written on that percussion.
harmonicamajor 1 year ago
There is no such "holy music or instrument" in Islam or among muslims". They even are trying to forbid it. hhhh. hhhhhh
HKirmashani 1 year ago 2
who are these people
and why they are like these
it seems they are in a deep thought
is any one knows and have information
where are the women
thanks
parvaz347 2 years ago
they are contemplating about God.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
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tziganibogati 2 years ago
this is one of the best things on youtube, this music is so awesome
r3dfl4ck4l 2 years ago 21
Now boys! stop fighting over this no matter whom or what is when and where the originators did not intend people to fight over it.
DigitalZeros 2 years ago
It's Kordish, the man speaks Kurdish and the instrument is one of Kurdistan's most sacred musical instrument Tamora.
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
by the way if you google " KOPUZ " you would find out the origin of the musical instrument ..
nmnbrk 2 years ago
Turkish this and Turkish that.. Turkey is a new country, what you see in this video has its roots in the 5000 year old Mithraic rituals.
NimaSun 2 years ago
Turkish Republic is as new as you mention but the Turkish culture has more than 5000 years of accumulation and synthesis of a huge geography ...
nmnbrk 2 years ago
also please check from " wikipedia " ,, " komuz "
nmnbrk 2 years ago
the real tanbur, originally turkish instrument, listen to it here:
watch?v=xHpzqKsXHX0&feature=related
and the pkk supporting terrorist idiot (kurdofighter), grow up and get your head out of your ass.
JustAWord1 2 years ago
originally turkish??????
yawns
EricTyce 2 years ago
"There is mention in the Hittite civilisation of a stringed instrument called a TIBULA. It is generally agreed that this was in all probability a long-stemmed stringed instrument. Texts from those times reveal that it was used to accompany the spoken word and dancing. All of this inevitably leads one to the opinion that the roots of the instrument go back to Hittite and Sumerian times. The word tambur was later used in Iran and central Asia for pear-bodied instruments ."
JustAWord1 2 years ago
So first it was Turkic (Central Asian Nomadic, ancestors of Turks), Hittities and Chinese texts confirm this...then later the word and an instrument that flowed out of it was named tambur by Persians.
Suck on that :D
JustAWord1 2 years ago
total bullshit story
i've heard desprate turks r trying to link themselves to sumerians looolz
suck on this
EricTyce 2 years ago
how about you surf western encyclopedias, i quoted from it word for word.
instead being a douche ignorant dumbass...but then again you are anti-turk persian-kurd-armenian-greek coward bitch who got their ass kicked by turks and now is upset ;)
JustAWord1 2 years ago
lol
EricTyce 2 years ago
u can also see some paintings from ancient egypt depicting some musicians singing at string instruments wich looks like tanbur
DRAGOVODA 2 years ago
You idiot, there is no Turkish instrument. This is Kurdish you Mongolian. Your roots is Mangolia not Middle East and not Anatolia which you stole and occupied
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
here another racist terrorist supporter who is clueless because hes been living in a cave since his mother pooped him out of her ass :D
JustAWord1 2 years ago
Listen you idiot, Persians have no Sufi sect that's called Yaresan and/ or Ahli Haq. These religious sufi group has been originated in Eastern Kurdistan. This instrument is revered and so respected that once its brought to the Jem (for an idiot like you is the word for assembly) is taken out and kissed by all participants. You do not have this culture. Persians discovered the instrument and used it in their Suneti Music. The regions where Tamora is played are Kurdish regions. Have manners idiot
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
why are u so emotional, like a cave monkey? ;)
all the things u said are wrong, pooped out of the vagina of ur ape mother. read an encyclopedia once a while instead of this brainwashed propaganda u hear in your own little town, hehe.
JustAWord1 2 years ago
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LOL Dear brother, please don't use your precious energy and time on people who aren't worth it.
Bijit Kurdistan
donthakiller 2 years ago
Also there is not one shred of evidence pertaining to it's use for religious purposes outside Kurdish regions of Eastern Kurdistan (Iranian Kurdistan), these regions including Kermanshan, Sine, (Sanandaj), Lurdistan and Elam. Keep the discussion civil, because I challenge you if you can get one evidence to suggest that Tamora is religious instrument used in by Persian nation and even if there is, it will merely be copied culture from Kurds.
SikismekAtaturk 2 years ago
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frankieLoy 2 years ago
music which transports you to places and through time... world music... excellent
rick1450 2 years ago 2
sade, mehraban, che latif be del mishine8-> eykash zende bood kheyli dost daram bebinamesh:((
ghachi1364 2 years ago 2
beutiful
gmcrash 2 years ago
Does anybody know of any music that I can download that is similar to this? That I could put on my Ipod or something? I think it is one of the most beautiful things that I have ever heard, but I live about as far from the East as possible.
If somebody could help me with this I would appreciate it.
horrorzz 2 years ago
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Shame on Persians who love Ali who killed thousands of innocent Persian children and raped many others probably even their mothers!
SolutionSaid 2 years ago
Great Voice!
takhti 2 years ago
It is unfortunate that so many Turks are so insecure. God doesn't care about your ego or your flag. There are many instruments in the Middle East and Central/South Asia that have similar names. "Tanboor" is a nifty Sudanese lyre. "Tar" is a lute or a drum, depending on where you are and whom you ask. These are Kurds and this is their Tanbur. No doubt about it. Guess what confusion it causes my fellow Americans when I say "I play setar"?
eirdway 3 years ago
so you can claim something to be of your flag, but turks cant? are you all hypocrite or what?
you are iunsecure for not acknowlegibg there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the obes you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read uo on it, then start your bs about insecure rubbish ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
This tanbur is a old sumerian/mesopotamian isntrument. You turks have adopted it, like the kurds adopted Saz.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
To rainbowpal3: mate, you could have copied and pasted a link to a page on the net referring to your so called "Chinese" resources so we all can read it and see for ourselves that you are not relying on your urban legends. Just do it instead of posting a non-scientific claim over and over again.
xboddy 3 years ago
i have, read back and type it into google. or is that too much to handle? ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
Where? I didn't see it. What? You want me to google "rainbowpal3's Chinese resource"? Come on. Give us a break and stop playing with words. The tanbur you talk about is played totally different. It's only a similar name you have in turkey. Do you really know anything about music?
xboddy 3 years ago
so you are saying the tanbur was already in persia 4500 years ago? send me the link with proof then....im now doing the same thing you do ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
The Iranian cultures pre-date the Turkish presence in the middle east and Central Asia.
Its amusing how everyone speaks of "Turk" like its the most ancient culture in that region. Its not!
The Turks of Turkey, Azerbaijan are ONLY Turkish speakers, they have NOT got Turkish blood. If they did they would look Chinese like the Turkomans, Uzbeks, etc.
NimaSun 3 years ago 3
thats the point you are missing...its not about turkish presence in the middle east...turks are from central asia and there the instrument called tanbur has been around for around 4000 years even the ancient chinese wrote about it.
this is a kopuz. the iranians were introduced to the kopuz and called it tanbur after the ancient turkic instrument which pre dates iran and persia.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
lol thats such bullshit! 4000 years? there are not even any records or turks at all before 2000 years ago! im so sick of turks ripping off iranian, and arabic culture and claiming it as their own. shit even your dance is copied from greeks, and georgians! think! turks are from the STEPPES! where would they find the wood to make these damn instruments then?!! also dont' speak for a minute as if u kno jack about history, u should at least read it before u try to sound like an expert.
kaikayne 3 years ago
there is an old turkic instrument called the tambur, predates the ones you mention. chinese records date it around 4000 years old, read up on it, then start talking rubbish ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
lol, there are no such records, such vague claims are not worth my time. Anyone can claim anything by siting obscure texts which are not at anyone's disposal, and most likely do not exist, as you did.
kaikayne 3 years ago
keep on believing in your own myths which have not been recorded and keep ignoring the tangible texts in chinese museums....maybe it makes you sleep better believing in lies of your own culture ;p
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
you're a damn liar,
music was a well developped tradition in the iranian plateau when the turks were still pastoral tribes in the steppes. there are thousands of sassanid court musicians, with their names and careers well recorded, who's works remain to this day.
dont' be so full of shit, there are no chinese records of turkic tanburs, i'l have to see it to believe it. If these records of the chinese truly existed it would be well publicised knowledge easy to come across.
kaikayne 3 years ago
calling someone a liar without any proof is a sin according to the teachings..you know that right?
how about you first do your own research about the origin of turks described by the ancient chinese, which isnt just propaganda from your iranian side?
google around ignoramus ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
I have researched, i suggest you do the same before citing sources that do not exist. stop posting the same comment over again. you fool
kaikayne 3 years ago
'he fool is the one who calls other fools while not looking in the mirror first'
old turkic saying for you ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
Then the quote suits you well.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
says the coward guy who supports the murder of innocents ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
supports whom?
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
pkk, the coward terrorist organisatin that kills civilians then hides in theior caves behind their wives ;) your name gives you away. kurdo fighter, lol.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
First of all, you don't know me, so stop accusing me of something. Secondly, I am not a supporter of PKK, I sympathize them. Everything is not black and white, only for racists and/or extremists. And there is no proof on PKK killed those innocent people.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
wow, can you make a dumber comment than that? pkk never killed civilians? you 'just' sympathize with a terrorist organisation?
nice one, moron.
you made a racist comment about mongols...so like i said, i put a mirror in front of you...then you showed who you are ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
What so dumb about that comment? Yes, I have never seen any proof of that. Can you show me?
Yes, I only sympathize them. I struggle for a Kurdistan, not a recognition of the kurdish identity as PKK has as goal.
When did I made a racist comment? What I said is true, you turks came from mongolia. Or are you going to claim the turks are native people of anatolia? If so, I won't bother talking with low intellects.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
you are a dumb terrorist supporter if you believe what you just said. pkk murdered more than 30,000 turks, most civilians. you agree with them murdering civilians. dont say there is no proof, most countries say pkk is terrorist organisation that murders civilians, dumbass.
second, you mentioned mongolia in a negative way, like the people who come from there are lesser than your sister killing race. thats racist, idiot :P
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
You haven't explained to me why my comment was a dumb one. Please answer it.
Regarding those people who have been killed by "PKK". There is no proof of that.
Have you even followed the Ergenonk trial? They are accused of over 18 000 killings of those 40 000.
Comparing the turkish state/military to PKK is like comparing a mountain with a stone. The turks have committed worse crimes than the PKK are claimed.
Most EU countries recognize the PKK as an terror org because of the turkish pressure
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
You are one disgusting pathetic terrorist supporter.
PKK is a known terrorist organisation who murder innocent civilians. Anyone who says they don't is an idiot and no word that comes from them should be taken serious. And I am not even Turkish to say this.
Fool.
JustAWord1 3 years ago
Another pathetic looser who only sees in black and white.
Everything you say isn't even proven. Where is the proof? A terror organization do not show mercy! PKK has shown that many times.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
No you are the pathetic loser who supports the murder of innocents.
Seriously, it's because of dumb Kurds like you that most people think bad about Kurds in general.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
You are obviously more stupid then a child. I have said it many times, I do not support them, I sympathize them, you sure do not understand the difference. But that's because you only see everything in black and white. People like you are the ones who create war, persecute others, and lies thru your teethes.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
You are a terrorist supporter. Why play word games...are you a girl?
Only girls play word games like that ' I sympathize, not support, blabla'. Act like a real man and admit you agree with the PKK murdering.
JustAWord1 3 years ago
Murdering turkish soliders yes, innocent no. But there is no proof of that so why believe in those accusations if I haven't seen any proof of that?
Where are you from btw?
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
Honor killings happens in every nation. Many ethnic people do this more or less. Just because of the video that yezidi girl which was stoned, doesn't make 40 million kurds the same as 5 of those murders.
You are the one who thought it of a negatively way, not me. I consider it as facts.
The only racist here is you, like the recent quote you gave me: "are lesser than your sister killing race".
You should consider understanding the mirror quote again.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
You are the racist here, I read your answers, you are a pathetic human to defend the PKK and your 'honor' killings.
JustAWord1 3 years ago
You are an idiot. Since when did I defend honor killings? I said honor killings exist in many cultures and other ethnic people has those too. Am I wrong?
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
Everytime a girl is murdered by their father or brother here in Europe it's a Kurd, 90% of the time.
Coincidence? No, it's because many Kurds do not have a problem with murder, which you keep defending.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
Here we come with false accusation again. Where is this so called "90%" proof? Where do you even get your statistics?
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
We hear a lot about girls being killed here in Western Europe...almost all are Kurdish families involved.
Because they didn't like their daughter-sister dating a Western guy or because she didn't want to marry a Kurd in Turkey from their town.
JustAWord1 3 years ago
I have heard those too, I do live in Europe too. Because media have made two cases big doesn't it mean every kurdish family is like that, like rainbowpal3 thinks but in a racist way.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
I put up the mirror by mentioning the sister thing AFTER you talked down on Mongolians, it was the mirror you still don't see, dumb person ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
So you still think I said it in a negatively way about mongols/mongolia? It is because you aren't proud of your heritage/descendants?
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
You downtalked them with the tone you used, don't even pretend. Again, act like a man and don't hide behind word games like a girl.
In fact I think you are a girl, so I will forgive your silly word games :P
JustAWord1 3 years ago
Wow, I didn't know you could use tones via internet text based chat. Now you are even making you self stupid as the rainbowpal3.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
now you are making even dumber comments, the mirror is working ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
You are only making your self dumb but not answering my question, but that's okay for me.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
nice saying...im done arguing with you, this is going nowhere.
kaikayne 3 years ago
I am glad too see you wrote iranian and not persian :) Good that you tell those turks the truth, it appears their goverment and turkic history/culture is full of lies. Well that maybe is so because of their walking from mongolia.
KurdoFighter 3 years ago
here another kurdish racist, for everyone to see. what is wrong with mongolian race, tell me....
kurds, who kill their own sisters because she wants to marry a guy she loves instead of a family member....
kurds, who support the murder of civilians by bombing them like cowards and then running back to their caves....
and you look down on other races? ironic ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
the ignorance in this thread is so deep. this is not the original tambur....
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hoytbcv 3 years ago
روحت شاد!! یاعلی !! یاحق !!
shirzadsharif 3 years ago
wonderfull!!ماشاء الله
haidermoh 3 years ago
smrezat i am mongol turk. and i WILL KILLL you if i find you. this man SYED KHALILI is a SAINT. ALI ALLAH AKBAR!
EASYOKHARZADA 3 years ago
EASYOKHARZADA koon nashoor too boro kose nanato bezar bikhayeh madare to va sedkhalo nemigam chon hameye yaresaniha kardaneshoon
heife smreza ke too dahanetoon bashe
shafi13 3 years ago 2
We are waiting for you, We will fuck you in the ass and then we will fuck sed khalil as well.
KoseNaneYarsan 3 years ago 2
Kiss my ass you bloody stupid Mongol Turk or whatever ! Fuck you and Sed khalil
smrezat 3 years ago
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The big cat has your whore of mom we nique you we them Turkish strong(hardly) as Turkish and pettite one whore as you who has to ériter of her mom the big whore hahahaha kept silent your fact metre by Turkish one I comprent then
hoytbcv 3 years ago
The big cat has your whore of mom we nique you we them Turkish strong(hardly) as Turkish and pettite one whore as you who has to ériter of her mom the big whore hahahaha kept silent your fact metre by Turkish one I comprent then
hoytbcv 3 years ago
english, english. you are talking some weird inbred language only dogs understand :P
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
Your mere the chienn big you his(her,its) batard young demand has your mom if you and not 1 foster child small son of whore you knows I have to rever of you you tournertu to turn(shoot) and I have to flush the toilet you has disappeared and plouf big mede hahahahahaha super marrand I am 1 lad who asssure 1 true step as certain girl poo hahhahaha
hoytbcv 3 years ago
english? why are you calling your own family all those things? i dont understand :P
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
This stupid man thinks he can play this divine instrument! shame on him and his followers.
smrezat 3 years ago
It is not tanbur , tanbur is also turkish instrument but not like that , this name is kopuz , it is an ancient of baglama ( saz )..It is in oldest turkish instrment
orcunatilla65 3 years ago
mashalah
kotakattack 3 years ago
How he is dead when he is in our hearts?!!!!
DRAGOVODA 3 years ago
Yes it's old Turkic instrument with Turkic name of Turkmen Turks, Azeri Turks, Uzbek Turks, Kazack Turks, Kirgiz Turks, Tatar Turks etc.
In Iran living 30/35 million Turkic origin people. 5/10 million Turkmens and Afshar Turkmens and 25 Azeri Turks. I am also Afshar Turkmen.
GurbetciGenc100 3 years ago
In your dreams! Mayby Turks brought it from Mongolia. hhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It is pure Iranian/Kurdish holy instrumet.
HKirmashani 1 year ago
Isn't kurdish or Iranian intrument, becouse the Mongols have this instrument too ;)
kerimkan1991 1 year ago
Coq yahsi.
Yasha Turk Milleti.
The name of this Turkic instrument is kopuz and not tanbur. Tanbur is an classical Turkic instrument and the kopuz is more turkic folkers instrument.
Realite58 3 years ago
PLEASE! This instrument is a TANBUR! It is an instrument used during zooastrian time! ANd that was thousands of years before the Turks started arriving in the middle east! I have nothing against Turks or nothing, I'm just saying that this IS Tanbur! Tanbur is an ancient zoroastrian instrument , not Turkish even though Turks Do have it in their music!
kallsupen 3 years ago 4
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Today is the 7th anniversary of his brutal killing by Islamic Repulic agents with the help of their pupet from Elahi sect.
insearchfor 3 years ago
khoda rahmat kone haj khalil ro.haji rahet edame dareeeee
eliyas021 3 years ago
I liked this clip this is really good and relaxing and frees human from a lot of stresses and other garbage. Sitting in the Nature with friends and listening nice nostalgic song, beautiful.
--Origin of all musical instruments mentioned below is Dombira. It is simple instrument. As of requirements it was customized added some extra stings, changed size and shape etc.
Remnants found in Akkad and Sumer same with those of Syberia. Shamans might have some connections.
nebozemlya 3 years ago
مرد را دردی اگر باشد خوش است.
thanks for uploading
modir23 3 years ago 2
any utube teach how to play Tanbout?
davidauto110 3 years ago
so much disinfo here....usually by kurds, armenians, iarnians and everyone else who hates turks....its getting old, get over it guys, we turks will not go away, ok?
this instrument you see and hear is NOT a tanbur, but a kopuz. tanbur is this, watch and listen :
watch?v=4S4LyJ9msB0
it is the first instrument of the turks and from this many instruments came includign ut, saz, kopuz, cumbus, ecventually guitar, etc.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
My friend, this is Tanbur and it history pre-dates Turks.
How can Iranians hate Turks?
Why make such ignorant comments?
Many (not all) of these instruments (saz) are Iranian in name and origin, even the Radif/Magham system was derived from the Sassanian times. Turks hadn't entered modern day Turkey during then and in fact, the Tanbur even pre-dates the Sassanians.
I think Turks call Tanbur Baghlama, not sure!
NimaSun 3 years ago
wrong, my friend.
we have an own isntrument called tambur. way back from central asia, thousands of years ago...it is as old as the first civilisations. this what you see is what we turks call kopuz.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
BTW my dear , if u wanna talk English u gotta try more , cus there is no meaning for PEOPLES , the plural word for Person is PEOPLE , there no S at the end , and u better respect to what do people believe In .
merdelan 3 years ago
Ya siz neden bogle konusuyonuz , Ben IRANLIYIM , soyum AZERI , 2 sene Turkiye de yasadim , Turklerin dedigi Tanbur Baska bi saz Iranlilarin baska , Bogle tartismaya gerek yok , Eger Avrupadaki music universitelerindeki kitablara bakarsaniz , Tanbur dedikleri saz daha cok Iran tenburuna Benziyo , mutlaga Turk tenburla bir alakasi yok , ayrica Kendim music ogrencisiyim ,havadan soz atmiyorum , hepinize saglik dilerim.
merdelan 3 years ago
It's not a tambur, this instrument it's the old father of baglama( between Kopuz and Baglama) Iranien (Acem) and kurdish people Know it by the way of Shaman Turkish peoples.
In fact the music is universal and every people can play baglama same the guitar.
The true musicians like the music .
Turks peoples are great.
The LOOSERS CRY everytimes.
you can't touch us.
hanzo886 3 years ago
this is a kopuz!!!and turkish enstrument!!!
tuvaaq 3 years ago
unfurtunatly some turks like viruse all the time are in kurdish chanels/till when you dont wanna respect others????????
lakkurdistan 3 years ago
look, you dumb racist terrorist supporter. kurds are the virus.
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
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hoytbcv 3 years ago
learn english first, then try to call your own mom a whore, ok? ;)
rainbowpal3 3 years ago
Oghlom, pokh soylama..
Teshekur elarim!
NimaSun 3 years ago
Could somebody put the lyrics, please(in Latin alphabet)?
darthtiger 3 years ago
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abicim burda bütün türkiye türkler ve orta asya türklere diyorum bu kürt yada fars irkindan gelenler yada armenie boklamalara tartismaya gerek deyil en iyi örnek kurdalo bilmedi bokdan bazediyor!olum hersey bizde geliyor diye kizkaniyorlar en cok hükümdarlik khaganatlik biz kurduk kizkaniyorlar heyt atam heyt cin yapdirdik duvar!farslilari soyduk!!anadolu saptedik yunani kovduk!heyt atam heyt:-)
cCcMBTcCc 3 years ago
Tembûr (not saz as turks call it) is a kurdish instrument.
The turks are a mixture of everything, their culture is mix of Kurdish/Arabic/Persian/Armenian and their language is 60% loanwords from other languages.
Turks are even genetically mixed.
Persians have another kind of tembûr and kurds have a totally different, because they don't play the same songs.
Kurdish is more dancing and energetic, and persian is more poetry
kurdalo 3 years ago 5