My tribute to the great music director Vasant Desai on his 36th death anniversary (22nd December, 2011). And belated Birth Centenary wishes to all Vasant Desai fans (on 9th June, 2012).
Im from UK.. and became spiritually aware after a car-crash.. i was thrust out of my body.. since then i started to leave my body a lot, and i am hoping it is because i am more attuned nowdays. BUT on two occasions when i was very ill i woke-up in a kinda 'Black n White net of energy'..please, i am not a bad person.. and i cant rest until i know if theres anything like the grid pattern at 1:08 and 4:54 for real.. as in my country religion is frowned upon and im lost
@madJedi1 ..Today is festival of light called Deepawali..It celebrates the victory of Goodness over Evil and Light over Darkness.. I wish you n your family Happy Deepawali
Let me tell you there is no anything like the grid pattern at 1:08 and 4:54 for real as pictured in this video believe me dear my friend !
So wait until dawn.. n recite '' OM MANI PADME HUM..'' I am sure you will come out of the problem..
Only recite n meditate
keep in touch...Thanks for sharing this touchy spiritual song
Let us not be satisfied with just giving money. Money is not enough, money can be got, but they need your hearts to love them. So, spread your love everywhere you go..Thanks for sharing
The movie conveys the message that is so beautifully presented in the song. I think everyone should watch this film to become a better person. Such movies are not made nowadays and I don't think will be made again. This movie had a profound effect on me and made me a better person than I would have been if I had not watched it. Love and peace.
The movie conveys the message that is so beautifully presented in the song. I think everyone should watch this film to become a better person. Such movies are not made nowadays and I don't think will be made again. This movie had a profound effect on me and made me a better person than I would have been if I had not watched it. Love and peace.
And for that matter there is no comparison with any other religion any other sect or philosophy because all those have come out from this SANATAN DHARMA.
The life and life cycle has been explained in very simple terms in our religion without any complication whatsoever. I hope this will put an end to all the confusion and complications.
And in order to get HIS blessings it is important to do prayers, not in the way we offer in our day to day life but from the inner core of our heart. Only then it will be listened to and responded to.
Hinduism is the religion which taught us this basic thing first - the fact which will not change over generations. This is why it is called SANATAN DHARMA.
So there is no reason for any follower of this SANATAN DHARMA and in other words the HINDUISM for being ever ashamed of.
But the most important thing is to get blessings from him which give us consciousness and also the guru who enlightens us. So there is nothing wrong in subjugating to HIM to seek his blessings. All of our capabilities have been showered to us by HIM only as a gift. So far as thought of independence is concerned, we are free in very very limited sense that we can decide what our actions should be. But the result is not decided by our actions only but a lot of other factors.
Here the term मालिक and बंदे has been used deliberately to distinguish between the levels of consciousness of the jailer and the criminals. Those hard core criminals in their own way used to call everyone the MASTER who was superior to them and themselves as SLAVES also because this was the typical behaviour in jails.
Now if we consider GOD as the CREATOR and DESTROYER of the universe HE is certainly the MASTER of everything here and we , the SLAVES.
In this context this song should be seen. The criminals are having the lowest level of consciousness in humans who are living only for their self interest. The jailer tried to reform them and be useful to society. But they did not realize it and tried to cause harm to him. As a result now he is on death bed and they are at a fix as to how to save his life. Knowing nothing else but the mastery (done by the earlier jail people) and the slavery (done by them), they start crying to SUPREME master.
Although we must aim all our activities with this goal in mind, only a few of us are like this. Because we even now do not understand what is good and what is bad for the whole mankind. We are so much immersed in our own interest, greed and lust that sometimes even apparently right things appear to us as wrong. So it is very much likely that we commit sins and therefore are again dragged down the ladder of the consciousness. But we never like it to be so.
And because of this we further think of even taking the laws of universe in our hands.
See we have been given consciousness to direct all our activities to the welfare of this world. Even scientific observations carried out by leading psychologists, -analysts, -therapists and psychiatrists all over the world confirm this view. So it is not important that what progress and development we are doing. Important is that whether it is for the welfare of mankind.
ramaraksha01 talked about our extinction like dinosaurs. I would like to state that all the living beings, be it human beings or any other living beings, have been CREATED by HIM and also DESTROYED by HIM. Since everything is controlled by HIM in this universes what to say of the capabilities of human beings. But still we have been given lot of power to do good to all entities in this world. The problem is that we have assumed to have supreme power.
All these birth and rebirths are in fact opportunities given to you to improve your actions, your deeds which should be only for the welfare of all living beings.
Now suppose we commit some mistake in tis birth, when we get next birth it will be according to the graveness of the mistake and we also get the chance to rectify that mistake. If we do not rectify it, we have to bear the consequent fruits in different births.
Since we have this level of consciousness, we are aware of the fallout of our actions or deeds whatever you call it. Now since the actions and deeds should all be for the welfare of first the mankind and then for the whole living beings, in all religion whatever you name (in one way or the other) they are associated with their fallouts. Now this is very simple theory. You do good and you get good. You do bad and you get bad. Based upon this theory we get our birth and rebirth in one form or else
The only creature in this universe with the most raised consciousness is human beings. This level of consciousness is available in this physical world and is within our ambit. Other creatures do also have consciousness but at a very low level. The level of consciousness can further be raised. As the levels of consciousness is raised level by level, we get one step closer to what is called DIVINITY i.e. getting the form of GOD.
Since HE is the creator , HE is certainly our MASTER. Since he is the DESTROYER, he is again our MASTER. In between he REARS us so again he is the MASTER. This is very simple.But the fact is that we, the human being, are not ready to accept it out of our ego. We think, we can do wonders but the fact is that only HE can do wonders. We are all like puppets in HIS control. But we cannot accept it because of our capability.
@granad@ramraksha01I am sorry for repeating same post thrice. The debate is also on HINDUISM and other religions. Use of Sanatan Dharma has also been made in it.
The problem is that we donot understand what our main scripture VEDA वेद says. It accept one ALMIGHTY GOD not in the form of RAM, KRISHNA, SHIV, or any other. It talks of ONE who created this Universe and is continuously building it, destroying it to further rebuild it and to further destroy it. This is an endless process.
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
our deed guide us on right path in life and do the right thing
when we die we should be smiling..
We are weak as a human and have lots of faults
but you are there to guide and with you love we are alive and you will share our happiness and sorrow...We shall always live in harmony and do not do any wrong
When we face the tuff time or any thing bad we should never seek revange and always offer our love and peace
our deed guide us on right path in life and do the right thing
when we die we should be smiling..
We are weak as a human and have lots of faults
but you are there to guide and with you love we are alive and you will share our happiness and sorrow...We shall always live in harmony and do not do any wrong
When we face the tuff time or any thing bad we should never seek revange and always offer our love and peace
I think that screenshot at 4:24 is from another movie called ''Toofan aur Diya" directed by Prahabat Kumar. There is a very nice song from that movie as well 'yeh kahani hai deeya ki aur toofan ki' music by Vasantha Desai.
Brothers and sisters, Listen please, listen to what MUSIC sounds like. THis is what I would humbly call " OSMOSIS " Beyond words and ages. Bahut shukriya for the sharing. " Living" means " Sharing ", my grand father often said. Blessings. Malleck, born in Mauritius, writing from France.
a v popular song used as a prayer in many schools in the olden times . beautiful and soulful rendition by lataji motivating and encouraging and guiding the young students to develop good characters thanks for posting and thanks mahale ji for forwarding
Some songs are inappropriate for Hindus, I believe this is one. God is not our Malik - Master. That makes us slaves/subjects, we must not lower ourselves to that level. Hindus are Students/children of God. God is our teacher, our goal is not a flesh-happy heaven but Moksha, an enlightened state.
Hello Ramaraksha, People like you are giving bad name to us. Are you even aware the definition of Hindus, can you show that name in the scriptures. What you write has no sense either any sensible believer of any religion esp so with Indian religions first accept god as supreme. Why the hell you pray with folded hands and kneel infront of god? The beauty of Hindus, to borrow the name from you is that we have no codified, no name, no form, no shape of God.
Infact the beauty of Hindus is you don't have to be believer, your deeds decide where you go. We have enough morons, praying some street babas, sacrificing animals etc in our religion. You bring shame to us. Go and study religion before you write crap or make views.
@granand And they say we Indians are nasty. Wonder where they get that from, lol. God is a Teacher, Love God, Respect God, but do not kowtow to God. Why would God want with slaves? That is my post. Instead of looking to God whenever trouble strikes, I ask Hindus to depend on themselves, don't look to God to bail u out, instead ask for moral strenght & guidance. We have to fight life's battles on our own.
@ramaraksha01 For many years, i debated existence of GOD and our rituals, in God's supposed hierarchy, in a zillion stars and planets what one human prayers can do, is there a nominated god for each planet, saw people spending too much time debating god rather than doing the right things. Buddha said it all earlier. This song is not about religion or belief, i think this song if seen in context of the movie, has power to move the strongest. Stress is on the fact WE ARE NOT PERFECT.
@granand Please be more respectful & we can continue our debate. I do agree with most of what you said - we should pray to God for guidance & encouragement but we need to do the hard work, God is not going to do that for us. Whether we make this earth a heaven or hell is up to us, not God. It is in this context that I say we should not reduce ourselves to slaves. We should Love God, Respect God, but never FEAR Her. Slaves Fear their Master.
@ramaraksha01 I would have to apologise if you feel i wasn't respectful. A little more about my views, i don't pray and when i do it is a ritual to put it in right perspective. I have no opinion of God perse. I don't watch our movie any language and this movie is one i couldn't miss. So all i say is instead of going too much details, just sink in the very inspiring good movie which is even today ahead of times, about prison reforms. I would continue to debate, with hope of seeing views +side
@granand Thank u for understanding & sorry for the late reply. we do have somethings in common. I don't pray that much either, i believe in God but I feel that God is like a Teacher & as God Krishna showed in the Mahabharata war, only there to encourage & instruct but will not interfere. We must fight life's battles on our own, whether we make this planet a heaven or hell is upto us, not God. We may one day conquer the stars or go the way of dinosaurs did - but it is upto us
@granand you are right that Hinduism doesn't have many do's & don'ts but it is wrong to say there aren't any. Again viewing God as a Teacher, a Teacher will never say this is wrong, She will only point out the pros & cons of any action. U understand why muslims are against imagery yet can't understand why i think addressing God as Master is wrong? Give me the same respect & open mind.
@granand A Teacher is respected & loved but should never be Feared. A King, a Master, a Lord is always Feared. You blindly obey a master - master says the sun rises in the west & u blindly agree, but one should never agree blindly with a Teacher. The problem with viewing God as a master is that it makes one weak - life's problems this person will now turn to God to bail him out. Also u remain open to exploitation - Terrorists actually think they are serving their God when they kill innocents
@granand Terrorists spring from religions that teach a King like God that must not be questioned. Once followers reduce themselves to slaves it is easy for a conman to make them do terrible things - they think they are simply following the orders of their god. It takes fortitude to question, we can do better.
@ramaraksha01 Terrorists are inspired by religion. If religion makes one good or bad, what do you make of Nityanannda, PuttaParthy Baba, Bala Baba countless ..
Religion is a business of weak minded. We are too small and data far less to debate if God exists etc, but God exists and taking Sanathana Dharma philosophy, he can come as tortoise, cow, camel, Lion man, Monkey man, snake etc etc .. countless as forms are his creation. In this song, it captures the emotion of the human being and good
@granand We disagree on how terrorists are inspired. They call themselves a soldier/slave of God, well, when a King or General says shoot, the soldier/slave must obey. The target could be a women, child or even a baby! They mock others as Infedels, pagans, God is going to give them hell, so why not kill them? That's the mindset of a Terrorist - blind obeidence to God breeds terrorists & kooks who argue that the earth is 5,000 years old.
@ramaraksha01 Ask the good men in the implicit religion/s you refer, disagree with that terrorists, be in any religion. It's too complicated mess. Religion you must know is way of controlling people, managing them and power so it's a abstract business. You picking this song is right views on the wrong place. It's a age old way of saying every thing controlled by god. Which they talk is Destiny and luck each of experience. Surely there are lot in world not in our control, not God, call it destiny
@granand Terrorists not inspired by religion? These guys are setting off bombs that kill indiscriminately - women, innocent children are being killed & maimed. This is not the time for political correctness. I am not saying Islam says go kill innocents - but when a religion says non-members are infedels & are destined for hell - it is encouraging violence against them. Forget religion - if i said u are an infedel & are going to hell, I am bad? but religion is not?
@ramaraksha01 Now talking of Hinduism, it has no single book, no single dos and don'ts, no single culture. according to me it is not a religion at all. We are just a group of people bonded with stories, a million forms of god. ex: The core philosophy is no form, no shape, omnipotent, omnipresent. Unlike other religions, our Gods too have life span, every one, with diff versions. There are much worse people in our religion too. There are good and bad.
@ramaraksha01 The point of discussion is your posts when read gave the impression that you consider this song against Hindu belief. My point is there never any straight forward definition or single view in our so called Hinduism. I agree relation with so called God and us shouldn't be feared and weak . Quintessentially
Hindus do that, God with weapons, fearsome and blood on hands. I believe in Brahma, the knowledge no form/shape/temple. Islam has one good, no idols/no form/shape of god.
@granand Hinduism is a Tough faith - Everything is EARNED - Moksha(Knowledge) is EARNED, Repentance is EARNED. While they beg & grovel before the master to gain entry to heaven, a Hindu STANDS Tall, his head held high, accepts his mistakes, comes back to make amends. Anyone can cry & beg for forgiveness, especially if there is a gun of hell pointed at them, but that's just regret or remorse, not repentance. Break something? don't just say sorry, replace it! That's repentance!
jab zulmon ka ho samana tab tu hi hamen thamana vo buraI karen ham bhalaI bharen nahi badale ki ho kamana ba.dh uthe pyar ka har kadam aur mite bair ka ye bharam neki par chale.n ...BHARAT VYAS What a spiritual prayer words are touching soul . GREAT FILM BY V. SHANTARAM Brlliant upload Thanks mastkalandr !! ,
I thought this movie was shot in Technicolor, like "Jhanak Jhanak Payal Baje" and "Navrang".
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My tribute to the great music director Vasant Desai on his 36th death anniversary (22nd December, 2011). And belated Birth Centenary wishes to all Vasant Desai fans (on 9th June, 2012).
praneeth12394 1 month ago
Great song great wording to follow in real life
banff123456 1 month ago
I can just thank for the taste u have
enraj10 1 month ago
@enraj10 ..Dear friend you are most welcome..
Thanks for sharing this spiritual song with divine feeling..
mastkalandr 1 month ago
Greatest song ever
isachdeva100 2 months ago
@isachdeva100 ..Thanks fr sharing ..
mastkalandr 1 month ago
This is the first movie to get "Silver Bear Extraordinary Prize" in 1958, Berlin
bunteezone 3 months ago
@bunteezone ..Thanks for sharing infro..
mastkalandr 1 month ago
Please can anyone help me...
Im from UK.. and became spiritually aware after a car-crash.. i was thrust out of my body.. since then i started to leave my body a lot, and i am hoping it is because i am more attuned nowdays. BUT on two occasions when i was very ill i woke-up in a kinda 'Black n White net of energy'..please, i am not a bad person.. and i cant rest until i know if theres anything like the grid pattern at 1:08 and 4:54 for real.. as in my country religion is frowned upon and im lost
madJedi1 3 months ago
@madJedi1 ..Today is festival of light called Deepawali..It celebrates the victory of Goodness over Evil and Light over Darkness.. I wish you n your family Happy Deepawali
Let me tell you there is no anything like the grid pattern at 1:08 and 4:54 for real as pictured in this video believe me dear my friend !
So wait until dawn.. n recite '' OM MANI PADME HUM..'' I am sure you will come out of the problem..
Only recite n meditate
keep in touch...Thanks for sharing this touchy spiritual song
mastkalandr 3 months ago
Thanks
it helped me in tough times
thanks
sssurya1234 4 months ago
@sssurya1234 ..You are most welcome dear friend..
Let us not be satisfied with just giving money. Money is not enough, money can be got, but they need your hearts to love them. So, spread your love everywhere you go..Thanks for sharing
mastkalandr 4 months ago
THANKS FOR ONE OF THE BEST SONGS.
mohanudiavar 6 months ago
@mohanudiavar ..Thanks for sharing ..Love begins by taking care of the closest ones - the ones at home.
mastkalandr 4 months ago
A film to reform the society-good attempt by Shantaram. Happy to know Shantaram was from Karnataka
NagarajaM1 7 months ago
GOD is love in love LOVE
vinayak2081 8 months ago
@vinayak2081 ..Truly said...Love is a fruit in season at all times, and within reach of every hand.
Thanks for sharing ...
mastkalandr 4 months ago
good song dhank
alokjain006 10 months ago
@alokjain006 ..You are welcome..
mastkalandr 4 months ago
A very popular song. Both the tune and the lyrics reach out to people. And the lyrics are also strictly non-sectarian or religious.
Why does every discussion have to degenerate into religion and beliefs? Cant we just enjoy the song and keep our beliefs to ourselves?
bharatcit 10 months ago 3
@bharatcit ..Absolutely correct.. Thanks for sharing
mastkalandr 10 months ago
Mkumar1963: thanks for the lecture. What have you been smoking?
zinzam88 1 year ago
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The movie conveys the message that is so beautifully presented in the song. I think everyone should watch this film to become a better person. Such movies are not made nowadays and I don't think will be made again. This movie had a profound effect on me and made me a better person than I would have been if I had not watched it. Love and peace.
storygazer 1 year ago
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The movie conveys the message that is so beautifully presented in the song. I think everyone should watch this film to become a better person. Such movies are not made nowadays and I don't think will be made again. This movie had a profound effect on me and made me a better person than I would have been if I had not watched it. Love and peace.
storygazer 1 year ago
And for that matter there is no comparison with any other religion any other sect or philosophy because all those have come out from this SANATAN DHARMA.
The life and life cycle has been explained in very simple terms in our religion without any complication whatsoever. I hope this will put an end to all the confusion and complications.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
And in order to get HIS blessings it is important to do prayers, not in the way we offer in our day to day life but from the inner core of our heart. Only then it will be listened to and responded to.
Hinduism is the religion which taught us this basic thing first - the fact which will not change over generations. This is why it is called SANATAN DHARMA.
So there is no reason for any follower of this SANATAN DHARMA and in other words the HINDUISM for being ever ashamed of.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
We are so ignorant that we do not even know what our actions will lead us to. So we pray to HIM not to let us commit any bad deed but only good deeds.
नेकी पर चलें और बदी से डरें ताकि हँसते हुए निकले दम |
Even here only our interest is involved. We want to do good so that we die peacefully. without any repentance etc.
Further it is also admitted that the man is so weak (and bound with his own interests) and so incapable that only HE could lead him to right path.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
But the most important thing is to get blessings from him which give us consciousness and also the guru who enlightens us. So there is nothing wrong in subjugating to HIM to seek his blessings. All of our capabilities have been showered to us by HIM only as a gift. So far as thought of independence is concerned, we are free in very very limited sense that we can decide what our actions should be. But the result is not decided by our actions only but a lot of other factors.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
And thus this marvellous song comes.
Here the term मालिक and बंदे has been used deliberately to distinguish between the levels of consciousness of the jailer and the criminals. Those hard core criminals in their own way used to call everyone the MASTER who was superior to them and themselves as SLAVES also because this was the typical behaviour in jails.
Now if we consider GOD as the CREATOR and DESTROYER of the universe HE is certainly the MASTER of everything here and we , the SLAVES.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
In this context this song should be seen. The criminals are having the lowest level of consciousness in humans who are living only for their self interest. The jailer tried to reform them and be useful to society. But they did not realize it and tried to cause harm to him. As a result now he is on death bed and they are at a fix as to how to save his life. Knowing nothing else but the mastery (done by the earlier jail people) and the slavery (done by them), they start crying to SUPREME master.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
Although we must aim all our activities with this goal in mind, only a few of us are like this. Because we even now do not understand what is good and what is bad for the whole mankind. We are so much immersed in our own interest, greed and lust that sometimes even apparently right things appear to us as wrong. So it is very much likely that we commit sins and therefore are again dragged down the ladder of the consciousness. But we never like it to be so.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
And because of this we further think of even taking the laws of universe in our hands.
See we have been given consciousness to direct all our activities to the welfare of this world. Even scientific observations carried out by leading psychologists, -analysts, -therapists and psychiatrists all over the world confirm this view. So it is not important that what progress and development we are doing. Important is that whether it is for the welfare of mankind.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
ramaraksha01 talked about our extinction like dinosaurs. I would like to state that all the living beings, be it human beings or any other living beings, have been CREATED by HIM and also DESTROYED by HIM. Since everything is controlled by HIM in this universes what to say of the capabilities of human beings. But still we have been given lot of power to do good to all entities in this world. The problem is that we have assumed to have supreme power.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
All these birth and rebirths are in fact opportunities given to you to improve your actions, your deeds which should be only for the welfare of all living beings.
Now suppose we commit some mistake in tis birth, when we get next birth it will be according to the graveness of the mistake and we also get the chance to rectify that mistake. If we do not rectify it, we have to bear the consequent fruits in different births.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
Since we have this level of consciousness, we are aware of the fallout of our actions or deeds whatever you call it. Now since the actions and deeds should all be for the welfare of first the mankind and then for the whole living beings, in all religion whatever you name (in one way or the other) they are associated with their fallouts. Now this is very simple theory. You do good and you get good. You do bad and you get bad. Based upon this theory we get our birth and rebirth in one form or else
mkumar1963 1 year ago
The only creature in this universe with the most raised consciousness is human beings. This level of consciousness is available in this physical world and is within our ambit. Other creatures do also have consciousness but at a very low level. The level of consciousness can further be raised. As the levels of consciousness is raised level by level, we get one step closer to what is called DIVINITY i.e. getting the form of GOD.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
Since HE is the creator , HE is certainly our MASTER. Since he is the DESTROYER, he is again our MASTER. In between he REARS us so again he is the MASTER. This is very simple.But the fact is that we, the human being, are not ready to accept it out of our ego. We think, we can do wonders but the fact is that only HE can do wonders. We are all like puppets in HIS control. But we cannot accept it because of our capability.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
@granad @ramraksha01I am sorry for repeating same post thrice. The debate is also on HINDUISM and other religions. Use of Sanatan Dharma has also been made in it.
The problem is that we donot understand what our main scripture VEDA वेद says. It accept one ALMIGHTY GOD not in the form of RAM, KRISHNA, SHIV, or any other. It talks of ONE who created this Universe and is continuously building it, destroying it to further rebuild it and to further destroy it. This is an endless process.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
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@granand the song is like this :
ऐ मालिक तेरे बंदे हम, ऐसे हों हमारे करम,
नेकी पर चलें और बदी से डरें,
ताकि हँसते हुए निकले दम ||
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
@granand the song is like this :
ऐ मालिक तेरे बंदे हम, ऐसे हों हमारे करम,
नेकी पर चलें और बदी से डरें,
ताकि हँसते हुए निकले दम ||
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
mkumar1963 1 year ago
@granand the song is like this :
ऐ मालिक तेरे बंदे हम, ऐसे हों हमारे करम,
नेकी पर चलें और बदी से डरें,
ताकि हँसते हुए निकले दम ||
the debate is probably on the use of the word मालिक and बंदे by the learned lyricist BHARAT VYAS. The words are metaphors but the meaning has been taken literally, it seems. MALIK does not always mean MASTER and BANDE does not always mean SLAVES. If we see the things in right perspective, here may not be any confusion at all.
The debate is also on HINDUISM vs other
mkumar1963 1 year ago
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shaziasyeda 1 year ago
i cry when i hear this song . Great writings and lovely voice of lata mangeshkar.
submadkicdar 1 year ago
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i cry when i hear this song . Great writings and lovely voice of lata mangeshkar.
submadkicdar 1 year ago
i cry when i hear this song . Great writings and lovely voice of lata mangeshkar.
submadkicdar 1 year ago
VERY INSPIRING.
eholcrepy 1 year ago
i have to recite this prayer in school upto 5th standard
avnishbhagat67 1 year ago
I am very much moved by the soul stirring songs of yesteryear..My long felt desire fulfilled becoz of ur best efforts.
The film is a MASTER PIECE that showed transformation with MIND n HEART.
drtatasrao 1 year ago
Thank you desinicky1 for the translation.
Aye malik is my favorite song and used to list to this song often over the years.
Now I can listen to the song knowing exactly what the words mean. Both the lyrics and music are great.
Thanks again.
xjn111
xjn111 1 year ago
Can someone provide a translation of this beautiful song in to English.
Thanks
xjn
xjn111 1 year ago
@xjn111
Oh lord we are your servent
our deed guide us on right path in life and do the right thing
when we die we should be smiling..
We are weak as a human and have lots of faults
but you are there to guide and with you love we are alive and you will share our happiness and sorrow...We shall always live in harmony and do not do any wrong
When we face the tuff time or any thing bad we should never seek revange and always offer our love and peace
This is the best translations I could do
desinicky1 1 year ago
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@xjn111
Oh lord we are your servent
our deed guide us on right path in life and do the right thing
when we die we should be smiling..
We are weak as a human and have lots of faults
but you are there to guide and with you love we are alive and you will share our happiness and sorrow...We shall always live in harmony and do not do any wrong
When we face the tuff time or any thing bad we should never seek revange and always offer our love and peace
This is the best translations I could do
desinicky1 1 year ago
Purifying ones own self. I am so much moved ....Where are we?
submadkicdar 1 year ago
I remember one more verse-
"Yeh andhera ghana chaa raha,
Tera insaan ghabra raha'
Ho raha bekhabar, kuch na aata nazar,
Sach ka suraj chupa ja raha,
Hai Teri roshni mein woh dum,
Jo amavas ko karde Poonam,
Na baghi se tale.....
Lovely!
smitu2001 1 year ago
bada kamzor hai aadmi,, abhi lakho hai isme kami, par tu jo khada hai dayalu bada teri kirpa se dharti thami.......GREAT OHHHHHHHHH
proudlyindian4 1 year ago
very meaningful song....everyone should realize this............
TheDalazack 1 year ago
the beatiful lady has performed nicely. i give thmbs up to this song.
shukla11karunesh 1 year ago
preyar for huminty
pkumar42 1 year ago
what a nice wordings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 hats of to pt bharat vyas.
however i believe the scirpt and story part was by another great man ga di madgulkar!!!!!!!!!!!
nkavinash 1 year ago
so beautiful song i love it... thanks for uploading....
nmimkhan2001 1 year ago
I think that screenshot at 4:24 is from another movie called ''Toofan aur Diya" directed by Prahabat Kumar. There is a very nice song from that movie as well 'yeh kahani hai deeya ki aur toofan ki' music by Vasantha Desai.
SV2609 1 year ago 2
You are right dear friend ...
Thanks for sharing this loving gem..mk
9431885 1 year ago
very beutiful song ever
loganshishir 2 years ago
My dear Malleck1.. thanks for touching comments
aap jaise insan jo apni jad se abhi bhi jude hai
bahut khushi hoti hai aapke vicharon ko jan kar
You have used word of process OSMOSIS .
I want to add spiritual osmosis .
Thanks for sharing .. keep in touch
9431885 2 years ago
Brothers and sisters, Listen please, listen to what MUSIC sounds like. THis is what I would humbly call " OSMOSIS " Beyond words and ages. Bahut shukriya for the sharing. " Living" means " Sharing ", my grand father often said. Blessings. Malleck, born in Mauritius, writing from France.
Malleck1 2 years ago 3
Lovee it !!!!
CoolAndRocking 2 years ago
I hope and pray that we all lead our lives according to this song. Ameen.
ghundirun 2 years ago 4
Ameen..
gupta5882 2 years ago
Wxcellent song uploaded Thanks a lot. Looking for this song from long time.Hats off to Great Shantaram
bhami6299 2 years ago 2
a v popular song used as a prayer in many schools in the olden times . beautiful and soulful rendition by lataji motivating and encouraging and guiding the young students to develop good characters thanks for posting and thanks mahale ji for forwarding
crazyoldsongs 2 years ago 16
Thanks for liking and comments.
Thanks to mastkalandr for posting.
YTvictimrumahale 2 years ago 2
Some songs are inappropriate for Hindus, I believe this is one. God is not our Malik - Master. That makes us slaves/subjects, we must not lower ourselves to that level. Hindus are Students/children of God. God is our teacher, our goal is not a flesh-happy heaven but Moksha, an enlightened state.
ramaraksha01 2 years ago
101 gane k liye badhai aapko.
bahot acha laga ye pyari preyar sun k.
gane ki dhun aur bol dono hi man ko chu gaye.
thanx mitr ek se ek badhiya gane sunane k liye.
prachivyas007 2 years ago 2
Hello Ramaraksha, People like you are giving bad name to us. Are you even aware the definition of Hindus, can you show that name in the scriptures. What you write has no sense either any sensible believer of any religion esp so with Indian religions first accept god as supreme. Why the hell you pray with folded hands and kneel infront of god? The beauty of Hindus, to borrow the name from you is that we have no codified, no name, no form, no shape of God.
granand 2 years ago 7
Last part of message from Ramaraksha,
Infact the beauty of Hindus is you don't have to be believer, your deeds decide where you go. We have enough morons, praying some street babas, sacrificing animals etc in our religion. You bring shame to us. Go and study religion before you write crap or make views.
granand 2 years ago 13
absolutely right..
gupta5882 2 years ago
@granand And they say we Indians are nasty. Wonder where they get that from, lol. God is a Teacher, Love God, Respect God, but do not kowtow to God. Why would God want with slaves? That is my post. Instead of looking to God whenever trouble strikes, I ask Hindus to depend on themselves, don't look to God to bail u out, instead ask for moral strenght & guidance. We have to fight life's battles on our own.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 For many years, i debated existence of GOD and our rituals, in God's supposed hierarchy, in a zillion stars and planets what one human prayers can do, is there a nominated god for each planet, saw people spending too much time debating god rather than doing the right things. Buddha said it all earlier. This song is not about religion or belief, i think this song if seen in context of the movie, has power to move the strongest. Stress is on the fact WE ARE NOT PERFECT.
granand 1 year ago
@granand Please be more respectful & we can continue our debate. I do agree with most of what you said - we should pray to God for guidance & encouragement but we need to do the hard work, God is not going to do that for us. Whether we make this earth a heaven or hell is up to us, not God. It is in this context that I say we should not reduce ourselves to slaves. We should Love God, Respect God, but never FEAR Her. Slaves Fear their Master.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 I would have to apologise if you feel i wasn't respectful. A little more about my views, i don't pray and when i do it is a ritual to put it in right perspective. I have no opinion of God perse. I don't watch our movie any language and this movie is one i couldn't miss. So all i say is instead of going too much details, just sink in the very inspiring good movie which is even today ahead of times, about prison reforms. I would continue to debate, with hope of seeing views +side
granand 1 year ago
@granand Thank u for understanding & sorry for the late reply. we do have somethings in common. I don't pray that much either, i believe in God but I feel that God is like a Teacher & as God Krishna showed in the Mahabharata war, only there to encourage & instruct but will not interfere. We must fight life's battles on our own, whether we make this planet a heaven or hell is upto us, not God. We may one day conquer the stars or go the way of dinosaurs did - but it is upto us
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@granand you are right that Hinduism doesn't have many do's & don'ts but it is wrong to say there aren't any. Again viewing God as a Teacher, a Teacher will never say this is wrong, She will only point out the pros & cons of any action. U understand why muslims are against imagery yet can't understand why i think addressing God as Master is wrong? Give me the same respect & open mind.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@granand A Teacher is respected & loved but should never be Feared. A King, a Master, a Lord is always Feared. You blindly obey a master - master says the sun rises in the west & u blindly agree, but one should never agree blindly with a Teacher. The problem with viewing God as a master is that it makes one weak - life's problems this person will now turn to God to bail him out. Also u remain open to exploitation - Terrorists actually think they are serving their God when they kill innocents
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@granand Terrorists spring from religions that teach a King like God that must not be questioned. Once followers reduce themselves to slaves it is easy for a conman to make them do terrible things - they think they are simply following the orders of their god. It takes fortitude to question, we can do better.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Terrorists are inspired by religion. If religion makes one good or bad, what do you make of Nityanannda, PuttaParthy Baba, Bala Baba countless ..
Religion is a business of weak minded. We are too small and data far less to debate if God exists etc, but God exists and taking Sanathana Dharma philosophy, he can come as tortoise, cow, camel, Lion man, Monkey man, snake etc etc .. countless as forms are his creation. In this song, it captures the emotion of the human being and good
granand 1 year ago
@granand read Terrorist are NOT inspired by religion. They are misguided by other factors.
granand 1 year ago
@granand We disagree on how terrorists are inspired. They call themselves a soldier/slave of God, well, when a King or General says shoot, the soldier/slave must obey. The target could be a women, child or even a baby! They mock others as Infedels, pagans, God is going to give them hell, so why not kill them? That's the mindset of a Terrorist - blind obeidence to God breeds terrorists & kooks who argue that the earth is 5,000 years old.
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Ask the good men in the implicit religion/s you refer, disagree with that terrorists, be in any religion. It's too complicated mess. Religion you must know is way of controlling people, managing them and power so it's a abstract business. You picking this song is right views on the wrong place. It's a age old way of saying every thing controlled by god. Which they talk is Destiny and luck each of experience. Surely there are lot in world not in our control, not God, call it destiny
granand 1 year ago
@granand Terrorists not inspired by religion? These guys are setting off bombs that kill indiscriminately - women, innocent children are being killed & maimed. This is not the time for political correctness. I am not saying Islam says go kill innocents - but when a religion says non-members are infedels & are destined for hell - it is encouraging violence against them. Forget religion - if i said u are an infedel & are going to hell, I am bad? but religion is not?
ramaraksha01 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 Now talking of Hinduism, it has no single book, no single dos and don'ts, no single culture. according to me it is not a religion at all. We are just a group of people bonded with stories, a million forms of god. ex: The core philosophy is no form, no shape, omnipotent, omnipresent. Unlike other religions, our Gods too have life span, every one, with diff versions. There are much worse people in our religion too. There are good and bad.
granand 1 year ago
@ramaraksha01 The point of discussion is your posts when read gave the impression that you consider this song against Hindu belief. My point is there never any straight forward definition or single view in our so called Hinduism. I agree relation with so called God and us shouldn't be feared and weak . Quintessentially
Hindus do that, God with weapons, fearsome and blood on hands. I believe in Brahma, the knowledge no form/shape/temple. Islam has one good, no idols/no form/shape of god.
granand 1 year ago
@granand Hinduism is a Tough faith - Everything is EARNED - Moksha(Knowledge) is EARNED, Repentance is EARNED. While they beg & grovel before the master to gain entry to heaven, a Hindu STANDS Tall, his head held high, accepts his mistakes, comes back to make amends. Anyone can cry & beg for forgiveness, especially if there is a gun of hell pointed at them, but that's just regret or remorse, not repentance. Break something? don't just say sorry, replace it! That's repentance!
ramaraksha01 1 year ago 3
@granand bada kamzor hai aadmi,, abhi lakho hai isme kami, par tu jo khada hai dayalu bada teri kirpa se dharti thami.......GREAT OHHHHHHHHH
proudlyindian4 1 year ago
@proudlyindian4 Here you go very simple answer in 3 lines. .good one. Admi Bada kamzor hi nahi, Bada complicated bi hai shayad :-)
granand 1 year ago
@granand Thank you my friend !!
ajithsworld 1 year ago
bhuumiputra 2 years ago 8
मेरा सबसे प्रीय गाना है भाई जी
मालीक और मालीक के बन्दे
उसके धन्धे फिर भी बन्दे अन्धे
arvindvyas 2 years ago