It has been posed by many legal minds that Secession might have been a Constitutional legality!!
The true traitors were the Plantation owners who willfully starved the South by buying up lands to grow more cotton rather than corn to feed the hungry troops.....whose influence helped garner them their lands from Pro slaver Andrew Johnson...I smell a Conspiracy to kill Lincoln, insert Johnson, reclaim their land and stop Reconstruction.....the 1st American BAIL OUT!!!
Confederates fought as long as they were able to, and at the end of strength they have surrended! They are heroes, I also tribute to the soldiers of the Union. Greetings from France!
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A fact: Jefferson Davis put on a dress and cloak and tried to avoid being captured by dressing like a woman,,,,I doubt it was the first time he dressed in womans clothing.
"Ant people anywhere,being inclined and having the power,have the right to rise up and shake off the existing goverment,and form a new one that suits them better.This is a most valuable,a most sacred right-a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.Nor is this rightconfined to casesin which the whole people of an existing goverment may choose to exercise it.Any portion of such people,that can,may revolutionize,and make their own ofso such people,that can,may revolutionize,
and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.- ABRAHAM LINCOLN, January 12, 1848. Sure sounds to me that the WAR CRIMMINAL,Abe Lincoln, also believed in the right of secession.
Part of the right to self-determination would include --it seems to me-- the right to dissolve a union that becomes less perfect every day in order to form one that the people feel has a chance at being more perfect.
You should learn to appreciate the difference between secession and rebellion. There is a HUGE difference. John Brown was a traitor. George Washington was a secessionist. The Washington snipers of 2003-5 were traitors. Lee was a secessionist, but by action alone. He was, in fact, quite a Union man. But as a soldier, he could not sit passively while invaders marched against his family and home. (To the true historian, this should sound like the situation of the colonials during Revolutionary War.
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Lee, rather than working out his beef with the government peaceably, he resorted to violence. That isn't noble or heroic, it's simply barbaric. This is a nation that follows the rule of laws, it's will isn't dictated by who's willing to draw the sword first. As American's we work together to solve our problems, not suceed when things don't go our way. This nation is held together my our strength as a people. That someone was willing to tear that asunder deserves no honor, nor praise.
Lee had no "beef", as you so eloquently put it, with the government. He was a military man of duty and principle. When war comes, how can a soldier do anything but fight? The choices were sweet and simple; attack your family, state, and home, or those who would destroy them.
Taking the userID of Samuel Adamz and then making the comment you made shows just how ignorant you are of our history. Samuel Adams would have supported the Southern cause. The South fired on Union forces at Sumter who would not leave a state that had peacefully seceded from the Union.
To deny self-determination by calling it rebellion is to state that our Revolution against the Briitish was wrong. You ca n't have it both ways.
@AlabamaSoldier One U.S colonel once said.They say they are fighting for there independence yet they deny it to others. The North wanted to quit using slaves, the South did not and it was the South that rebelled against there president and the nation.
There can be no liberty in a country that offers slavery.
@TheIcelandicPatriot One C.S. general once said, "We would never send our soldiers to other states to tyrannize other people, and so shall we never allow the soldiers of others to tyrannize our people."
The South wanted to control its own destiny, the North did not want to let them and it was the North that illegally invaded the South.
There can be no excuse for a country that enforces tyranny.
@AlabamaSoldier Wait so tyranny over white people is bad but not black people? You denied them of there freedom that is one of the worst crime a man can do, keeping slaves. The south was, is and allwais will be
United States of America. The president said not to slavery but you did not like that so you rebelled.
Tyranicing the people is never right but you say the north was so bad because they ussed force to restore order. I say the south was the bad because they denied freedom to the people.
@TheIcelandicPatriot Clearly you have no concept of history and are just jumping on the bandwagon. So, it's only natural that you think Lincoln was politically opposed to slavery.
You know, the British offered all slaves who fought for the crown their freedom in the American Revolution. I suppose you're narrow-minded enough to root for the Redcoats in that conflict, am I right?
@AlabamaSoldier A thats true the British did do that but then again the British empire terrorsized and ruled with hardship. There are evidences for that not to mention they broke the rules of war time and time again.
the North only terrorized the South after you comitted treason. You could have resolved this with the pen but just like any hill billy you ussed the riffle.
@TheIcelandicPatriot They broke the rules of war time and time again? You mean, like burning and sacking towns and practicing unfair tax policies, right?
@AlabamaSoldier What does the second last line in my last comment say? Treason shall be answered by force if nesesary! You were brothers, uncles, you were family and you broke there trust with treason and not the good kind. Where you speak for liberty and justice no you ussed the sword speaking the word of slavery. You can try to justify that but freedom of the people will allways prevale.
YOu are an idiot. Lee went with his State. At the time, the issue of a State leaving the Union was not decided. Lee also made many efforts to help heal the divide the nation. He ordered his men to lay down their arms instead of launching a guerilla campaign. He spoke about the need for everyone to get past the war and be good citizens. YOu were not there, but you are an idiot.
Nice to see at least a few different pictures than the usual Brady fare. Although I must say I think it is a bit presumptuous to speak for a great mind like Lee's, even if it is for your alma mater.
Terribly poignant and beautiful. The song is perfect and the images unbearably moving. As a member of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, Louisiana Division, I thank you for this video. Ten stars.
When I think of Lee, I experience such a rush of emotions. I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like to see the tide shift against you and to keep fighting on with fewer men and less resources until that day at Appomattox. What must he have been thinking and feeling? And the soldiers--that final "Stack Arms" and march away. To what? Many were hundreds of miles from home and not very fit. Makes me cry thinking about it. Let light perpetual shine upon them. Deo Vindice
I know. Think about it. Lee loved his country. He loved the United States. He himself was the descendant of a Revolutionary War hero. And then, in 1860-61, he had to mak a choice as his family sided against the country his ancestor had helped to found. Can you imagine? Your heart, torn in two? Do you betray your country, or your family? I think today's generation would do well to ponder this kind of decision.
I don't think any of us have a HINT of how Lee fealt that April 12-13 after Fort Sumter. I tip my hat to the Grey Chieftan. Oh, what a burden, what a decision, it must have been. It must have been unreal what he tried to sleep with at nights.
After I finish him/it of the war many farmers of the south USA; they immigrated for Brazil and they founded a city in the state of São Paulo; they gave it the name of American and some of this family were the one of the General Lee
That one sentence sums it up so well--I've never even BEEN to the South, but I feel so much a part of the experience of the War and it's aftermath. I can't understand why I have such a deep psychic connection to this. My greatgrandmother was born in Tennessee in 1879; maybe I have Confederate soldiers in the family.
I wouldn't doubt it. My mother's side of the family lived in southeast Alabama during the war. I don't know about my Dad's side. Anyway, I had at least one ancestor that fought for the South. I don't know his name, rank, or division though. I intend to find out. I feel honored to have a relative that fought. You could say, some of my own blood was spent during the Civil War, and I'm proud and honored to carry that.
This is an awesome video!! Very poignant. The vocal reminds me of Neil Diamond...The music is perfect for the lyric..a beautiful collaboration between these two talented and creative artists.
not to bad..im ENGLISH.but can still respect it as i am ABRAXAS
mouthofhorror 10 months ago in playlist Norman Ball (alternating originals and covers)
It has been posed by many legal minds that Secession might have been a Constitutional legality!!
The true traitors were the Plantation owners who willfully starved the South by buying up lands to grow more cotton rather than corn to feed the hungry troops.....whose influence helped garner them their lands from Pro slaver Andrew Johnson...I smell a Conspiracy to kill Lincoln, insert Johnson, reclaim their land and stop Reconstruction.....the 1st American BAIL OUT!!!
lonster1monster 10 months ago
Confederates fought as long as they were able to, and at the end of strength they have surrended! They are heroes, I also tribute to the soldiers of the Union. Greetings from France!
KingBouloo 1 year ago
Our nation was very fortunate that we had good people on both sides to prevent anarchy and begin the process to heal the nation.
Hobbescatstubbytai 1 year ago
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A fact: Jefferson Davis put on a dress and cloak and tried to avoid being captured by dressing like a woman,,,,I doubt it was the first time he dressed in womans clothing.
wickedglen1 2 years ago
@wickedglen1 not a fact, more yankee propaganda. but we're used to it.
His wife threw her shaw over him that is all.
bluegrassreb 1 year ago
@bluegrassreb 'Yankee'...
You realize the War is 145 years in the past. Stop talking as if your were one of the 'Confederates'.
Ares99999 1 year ago
@wickedglen1 So? Bonnie Prince Charlie did the same thing after the Battle of Culloden when he was on the run from the Duke of Cumberland.
Cionaodh57 9 months ago
Secession IS rebellion. But I can see that I'm not going to change your mind, nor you mine, so we shall have to simply agree to disagree.
silence782 3 years ago
"Ant people anywhere,being inclined and having the power,have the right to rise up and shake off the existing goverment,and form a new one that suits them better.This is a most valuable,a most sacred right-a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world.Nor is this rightconfined to casesin which the whole people of an existing goverment may choose to exercise it.Any portion of such people,that can,may revolutionize,and make their own ofso such people,that can,may revolutionize,
rebelscott1865 3 years ago 6
and make their own of so much of the territory as they inhabit.- ABRAHAM LINCOLN, January 12, 1848. Sure sounds to me that the WAR CRIMMINAL,Abe Lincoln, also believed in the right of secession.
rebelscott1865 3 years ago 6
That should be Any people not Ant people. My typing sucks.
rebelscott1865 3 years ago 3
Part of the right to self-determination would include --it seems to me-- the right to dissolve a union that becomes less perfect every day in order to form one that the people feel has a chance at being more perfect.
desertrun 3 years ago 2
@desertrun
Exactly just look at the 10 amendment
Knasterreal1 1 year ago
So the Declaration of Independence is wrong?
tnrich1 2 years ago
"So was Washington. It's an American tradition."
So was Jonnie Walker Lindh. What's your point, exactly?
silence782 3 years ago
You should learn to appreciate the difference between secession and rebellion. There is a HUGE difference. John Brown was a traitor. George Washington was a secessionist. The Washington snipers of 2003-5 were traitors. Lee was a secessionist, but by action alone. He was, in fact, quite a Union man. But as a soldier, he could not sit passively while invaders marched against his family and home. (To the true historian, this should sound like the situation of the colonials during Revolutionary War.
AlabamaSoldier 3 years ago 5
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Lee, rather than working out his beef with the government peaceably, he resorted to violence. That isn't noble or heroic, it's simply barbaric. This is a nation that follows the rule of laws, it's will isn't dictated by who's willing to draw the sword first. As American's we work together to solve our problems, not suceed when things don't go our way. This nation is held together my our strength as a people. That someone was willing to tear that asunder deserves no honor, nor praise.
silence782 3 years ago
Lee had no "beef", as you so eloquently put it, with the government. He was a military man of duty and principle. When war comes, how can a soldier do anything but fight? The choices were sweet and simple; attack your family, state, and home, or those who would destroy them.
AlabamaSoldier 3 years ago 4
Hold your horses there a minute it was Lincoln who mobilised the army to invade the South.
Westyrulz 3 years ago 5
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Lincoln mobilzed the north AFTER the South attacked at Fort Sumter. We couldnt leave an act of rebellion such as that go without punishment.
SamuelAdamz 2 years ago
Oh I see a bit like the Boston Tea Party!!
Westyrulz 2 years ago 7
Rebellion? We were leaving! "Rebellion" entails rogue troops marching on the capital.
AlabamaSoldier 2 years ago 7
Taking the userID of Samuel Adamz and then making the comment you made shows just how ignorant you are of our history. Samuel Adams would have supported the Southern cause. The South fired on Union forces at Sumter who would not leave a state that had peacefully seceded from the Union.
To deny self-determination by calling it rebellion is to state that our Revolution against the Briitish was wrong. You ca n't have it both ways.
tnrich1 2 years ago 4
@tnrich1 Whats 'wrong' and 'right' is written by the winners. So, yes, you CAN have it both ways.
Ares99999 1 year ago
@Ares99999 The South rebelled and they suported slavery thats all we need to know who the bad guys are.
TheIcelandicPatriot 1 year ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot The North invaded and burned public property. That's all we need to know who the bad guys are.
AlabamaSoldier 5 months ago in playlist Southern Heritage
@AlabamaSoldier One U.S colonel once said.They say they are fighting for there independence yet they deny it to others. The North wanted to quit using slaves, the South did not and it was the South that rebelled against there president and the nation.
There can be no liberty in a country that offers slavery.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot One C.S. general once said, "We would never send our soldiers to other states to tyrannize other people, and so shall we never allow the soldiers of others to tyrannize our people."
The South wanted to control its own destiny, the North did not want to let them and it was the North that illegally invaded the South.
There can be no excuse for a country that enforces tyranny.
AlabamaSoldier 5 months ago
@AlabamaSoldier Wait so tyranny over white people is bad but not black people? You denied them of there freedom that is one of the worst crime a man can do, keeping slaves. The south was, is and allwais will be
United States of America. The president said not to slavery but you did not like that so you rebelled.
Tyranicing the people is never right but you say the north was so bad because they ussed force to restore order. I say the south was the bad because they denied freedom to the people.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot Clearly you have no concept of history and are just jumping on the bandwagon. So, it's only natural that you think Lincoln was politically opposed to slavery.
You know, the British offered all slaves who fought for the crown their freedom in the American Revolution. I suppose you're narrow-minded enough to root for the Redcoats in that conflict, am I right?
AlabamaSoldier 5 months ago
@AlabamaSoldier A thats true the British did do that but then again the British empire terrorsized and ruled with hardship. There are evidences for that not to mention they broke the rules of war time and time again.
the North only terrorized the South after you comitted treason. You could have resolved this with the pen but just like any hill billy you ussed the riffle.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
@TheIcelandicPatriot They broke the rules of war time and time again? You mean, like burning and sacking towns and practicing unfair tax policies, right?
AlabamaSoldier 5 months ago
@AlabamaSoldier What does the second last line in my last comment say? Treason shall be answered by force if nesesary! You were brothers, uncles, you were family and you broke there trust with treason and not the good kind. Where you speak for liberty and justice no you ussed the sword speaking the word of slavery. You can try to justify that but freedom of the people will allways prevale.
TheIcelandicPatriot 5 months ago
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Lee's a traitor, plain and simple.
silence782 3 years ago
silence782 Lee's a traitor, plain and simple.
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YOu are an idiot. Lee went with his State. At the time, the issue of a State leaving the Union was not decided. Lee also made many efforts to help heal the divide the nation. He ordered his men to lay down their arms instead of launching a guerilla campaign. He spoke about the need for everyone to get past the war and be good citizens. YOu were not there, but you are an idiot.
Hobbescatstubbytai 3 years ago
moron
markwtr77 3 years ago
So was Washington. It's an American tradition.
AlabamaSoldier 3 years ago
Nice to see at least a few different pictures than the usual Brady fare. Although I must say I think it is a bit presumptuous to speak for a great mind like Lee's, even if it is for your alma mater.
mjrchapin 3 years ago
Terribly poignant and beautiful. The song is perfect and the images unbearably moving. As a member of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, Louisiana Division, I thank you for this video. Ten stars.
GuinevereJuliet 3 years ago
There's more than one Lee University? Where is this one located?
SlideshowArt 3 years ago
Not South Carolina man..
Lomax9 4 years ago
The day States Rights died.
wilfredsnipple 4 years ago 5
so true
jdeerhunter91 3 years ago 2
fine, fine tribute
wikiriwhi 4 years ago
Good job! I like this song! It was good meeting you and Kim at The Tavern. I'll let you know once I start downloading videos.
kirkenbunken 4 years ago
Is a nice video :)
Pickett14thLouisiana 4 years ago
When I think of Lee, I experience such a rush of emotions. I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like to see the tide shift against you and to keep fighting on with fewer men and less resources until that day at Appomattox. What must he have been thinking and feeling? And the soldiers--that final "Stack Arms" and march away. To what? Many were hundreds of miles from home and not very fit. Makes me cry thinking about it. Let light perpetual shine upon them. Deo Vindice
3rdconfederate 4 years ago 2
I know. Think about it. Lee loved his country. He loved the United States. He himself was the descendant of a Revolutionary War hero. And then, in 1860-61, he had to mak a choice as his family sided against the country his ancestor had helped to found. Can you imagine? Your heart, torn in two? Do you betray your country, or your family? I think today's generation would do well to ponder this kind of decision.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago 2
I don't think any of us have a HINT of how Lee fealt that April 12-13 after Fort Sumter. I tip my hat to the Grey Chieftan. Oh, what a burden, what a decision, it must have been. It must have been unreal what he tried to sleep with at nights.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
Gives new meaning, to me anyways, to Iced Earth's Gettysburg trilogy called Glorious Burden.
3rdconfederate 4 years ago
I think Lee hated the whole thing but people were duty lead back then. He simply could not raise a sword against his state.
kirkenbunken 4 years ago 3
I loved the music here.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
wow! nice work u got some pretty good photos and the vid was great in general.
firebender23 4 years ago
After I finish him/it of the war many farmers of the south USA; they immigrated for Brazil and they founded a city in the state of São Paulo; they gave it the name of American and some of this family were the one of the General Lee
algs229635 4 years ago
That was maddeningly unclear and mangled. Try it again, and read what you type this time, ok?
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
Oh, what does it mean to love something that has never been known? That's how I feel about Lee.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
That one sentence sums it up so well--I've never even BEEN to the South, but I feel so much a part of the experience of the War and it's aftermath. I can't understand why I have such a deep psychic connection to this. My greatgrandmother was born in Tennessee in 1879; maybe I have Confederate soldiers in the family.
3rdconfederate 4 years ago
I wouldn't doubt it. My mother's side of the family lived in southeast Alabama during the war. I don't know about my Dad's side. Anyway, I had at least one ancestor that fought for the South. I don't know his name, rank, or division though. I intend to find out. I feel honored to have a relative that fought. You could say, some of my own blood was spent during the Civil War, and I'm proud and honored to carry that.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.
AlabamaSoldier 4 years ago
This is an awesome video!! Very poignant. The vocal reminds me of Neil Diamond...The music is perfect for the lyric..a beautiful collaboration between these two talented and creative artists.
lonnieglass 5 years ago