the Hillaryites' Sour Grapes; Hillary Inevitable?

[subpar07]

The poster of this video is probably one of those old "deaniacs" & "9/11 conspiracy theorists" who are now wild-eyed again and on the Obama bandwagon. You're pathetic. Obama will never be elected. No one like you (far left liberal) should ever be allowed to be president. Just the thought that you would suggest Hillary Clinton supporters would support Pelosi and the DNC just clearly shows that you really have no clue as to what you're talking about. Get out of the house, and get some fresh air.

[Lisandro01987]

hey can'tvotehilary this is lisandro : ) i think that hilary wasn't that bad after all. on the other hand MC cain is the real evil :P

[kwatson813]

I get SO sick of hearing Hillaryites whineing about how sexist the Obama campaign has been and how they couldn't get out of the secretarial pool and blah blah blah. I will THANK those women to remember when they couldn't get OUT of that pool, competent black women like me couldn't get IN that pool. We were cleaning the office and Obama was cleaning beside us and would have been lynched in the street like a dog for looking sideways at you.

[Turtleproof]

Note how many Hillary supporters are switching to voting for McCain. It shows how much of a neoconservative Hillary is, and how she attracted that kind of deranged citizen. Modern politics fosters this kind of insane individual, as well as harnessing the existing ones: people who STILL believe that Saddam was a terrorist with thousands of tons of chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

[subpar07]

Turtleshit, you really need some help. What a ridiculous comment. Hillary a neoconservative? Obama is a far left radical loon, and there is no way some of Hillary's supporters would support such a radical nut and all of his radical associations. Obama's new best friends: McGovern, Hart, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry. They played the part of democratic loser to perfection, until Obama took that prize.

[Turtleproof]

I beg your pardon, but your opinion is- to my perception- completely unfounded. Using wild exaggerations about opponents, making unfounded statements, harnessing fanaticism: these are the hallmarks of Bush neoconservatism.

[ruediix]

The Green Party candidate is a Woman.

Personally I support Obama merely because he is so good at negotiating, and presenting ideas, and he is a good critical thinker who will clearly read every bill and order that lands on his desk.

Hillery, like McCain, is a book thinker, she'd presume to ask someone that knows better and just ask one of her other Democrat buddies about the bill, they'd ask their buddies and it would eventually lead back to a lobbyist and it would be politics as usual.

[sprintNburgh]

great video,you hit the nail on the head when you said that McCain and Hilary are war-mongers they would advocate for more wars to tell the american people we only can live in fear.We Americans realize we can't live in fear and we need someone to be proactive,war does not make one great,America is great for its leadership(not bullying tactics), courage,love for its neighbor,values,ideals, and its rich history that only made us stronger,those neo-cons days in the white house is coming to an end

[derekwilliams1982]

Good assessment!

[segits]

If Obama had been in the Senate in 2002,I am not convinced that he wouldn't have felt the pressure to vote for the war as well.

By the above comment, I am just trying to find out if there really is a sustainable difference of improvement between the two primary Democratic candidates.

[Ralphdraw3]

Gore in 2000 would have been far, far better for the nation than Dumbya Bush and Evil Uncle Dick Cheney...

no contest; Dumbya Bush - one of the worst presidents in history

[BobCubTAC]

Try THE worst President in history, Ralph!

[ruediix]

Sure he would have felt the pressure. Do you think the people who voted didn't. They just didn't cave in.

[segits]

There are only two politicians I know of, who didn't cave in.

[CANTvoteHillary]

22 Senators voted against the authorization for force in 2002 - every single one was a Democrat.

Except for Jim Jeffords who was an independent.

BTW: the Democrats in Connecticut defeated Joe Lieberman in the primary in 2006. What happens? Lieberman runs as an "independent" in the general election and stupid people in Conn. vote for Joe Lieberman and continued war in the Middle East.

Lieberman still in the Senate..

[subpar07]

Segits, there is no question that Obama would have voted for the war if he were in the Senate in 2002. Obama is a populist.  Back then the war was EXTREMELY popular. To me though it doesn't matter, he has no credibility on the issue since he was not even there to cast that vote, and instead gave speaches to his loonatic base.

[segits]

Ralph: Biden voted for the war in Iraq, and now he has been chosen as Obama's VP.

[Ralphdraw3]

So what? Biden is in there for image - an elder statesman type; man with lots of foreign policy experience. And Biden became increasingly critical of the war in Iraq (while HIllary did nothing but cheer the war on).

Voting Democrat

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR WAR-MONGERING REPUBLICANS

OR LOSING 3RD PARTIES.

[Ralphdraw3]

I am getting very tired of this silly argument of yours;

the strongly anti-war candidates, Kucinich, Gravel, and even Edwards all bombed in the primary. Obama has more charisma and appeal.

If you don't like the Democrats, don't tell me about it. Start making videos for Ralph Nader or McKinney (BTW most black folk don't even know who she is) and see how far you get. You can even give your money to Ralph Nader and you can watch him lose in November.

[segits]

I am getting tired of your bully attitude, just because i try to be objective and stay away as possible from compartmentalized thinking. I have shared my comments without disrespect, without any intention of showing favoritism to the Republicans....yet you still feel the need to show some disrespect to my opinions or viewpoint. Perhaps this reflects more about you than me. Perhaps we are tired....but how does rudeness help in understanding each other.

[Ralphdraw3]

Everytime you have a criticism of Obama, I will have to ask you;

Who are you voting for/supporting in November?

Nader (he will lose) McKinney (she will lose) Barr (he will lose) Paul (he will lose) etc..etc..

Y-O-U have decide (there are a little over two months left).

I have made my decision.

(If you want to argue about scrapping the two party system THAT IS DIFFERENT DISCUSSION and has nothing to do with this November or Obama.)

[segits]

look, if this will make you feel any better, even if i don't think a two-party system, whereas centrally can be even one-party, is not in any way democratically healthy.....but as I recall on the Primary Absentee Ballot I had a "choice only between the two big parties, so i presume the same will happen for this Nov.

[Ralphdraw3]

You presume wrong.  Elections - even federal elections - are run by each state. So the requirements for getting on the ballot vary from state to state.

Where you are registered to vote will determine which people and parties appear on the ballot. In my state, there are at least six(?) parties that always appear on the ballot for president: Republicans, Democrats, Taxpayers, Constitution, Libertarian, Green, (I even believe the Socialists and the Communists are usually on the ballot as well.)

[subpar07]

Ralphy, That's an easy question. McCain 2008

Only Nader voters are dumber than you.

[segits]

cont. We are adults, so I won't bring up this topic any further; if needs be, I'll go somewhere else where there is more openess, although I'd prefer to remain friends since I see the good in you.

[BagOfEyebrows]

huh? Obama didn't oppose the war in votes, only in words before he could vote. He campaigned against the war, as he is now, but once elected, he VOTED FOR THE SURGE and gave Bush even more money than he asked for (google it!) Obama's foreign policy is WORSE than even McCains in terms of occupations - review his platforms. Obama and McCain aren't 'choices' - they are both nothing but pawns in the hands of the real players, the admistrations and groups behind this global mess.

[CANTvoteHillary]

huh??

Obama opposed the war in 2002 before he was in the Senate and before he became candidate for president.

Hillary was stupid enough to support the war before, during, and after the invasion.

[BagOfEyebrows]

Correct - Obama opposed the war prior to his elected, and once elected he voted FOR continued war and occupation... review his voting record, as his words during rallies and campaign trips aren't reflected in his votes at all (nor his platform, hardcore review his actual plans for the middle east and the entire globe - Occupation is occupation, even when it's guised as 'keeping the peace.')  Also - Obama is just as entangled as Hillary in investments and lobbyist money. Research him more.

[CANTvoteHillary]

Not really. Hillary's money came from big money people in New York, Los Angeles and Florida. Hillary's money also came from Big-shot Friends of Bill. Hillary's money came in illegally from flim-flam con-men like Norman Hsu who was a Hill-raiser (on the run from the law). Defense industry really liked Super-hawk Hillary/dumped lots of money into her campaign.

When Hillary got desperate - she borrowed money

Most of Obama's money has come from smaller donations and from the internet.

[BagOfEyebrows]

A gigantic chunk of Obama's money is from the lobbyists he claims he doesn't take money from - you should really research his investments more, too. It's open information, easily found, and should be considered before supporting him as a candidate - but more importantly, his record of campaigning on one thing and then voting the opposite is a clear indication that he won't, if elected, represent YOU at all. Actions speak louder than words. Don't be fooled by 'hope' - vote on facts.

[zztwp]

I hate the morons that think they should be in charge :

Like Hillary and Obama and Mc Cain and so on and so on and so on ?

[CANTvoteHillary]

her campaign a dime. I don't think I could have voted for her... It would have been a difficult choice between two rich, Washington uber insider/ war-mongers. It would have been a sad, limited, choice for Americans (at least "thinking" Americans).

Ole Hillary would have had to throw me a small bone to get my vote.. SOMETHING..

[CosmoPlavix]

Whining and infighting among Demos will hand the election to McCain. Look forward to four more years of whining by Demos, whose principles are supported solely by blaming, blabbing, and not-so-closeted misogyny.

Obama's principles extend as far as what it takes to get you to pull the lever, and Hillary, underhanded and craven, was the best chance we had. Democrats are so afraid they'll be disliked, they'll do anything except win.

Keep posting these corrosive videos to ensure a GOP victory.

[CANTvoteHillary]

Hillary was wrong (about the war) and corrupt (taking money from Republicans and defense industry people and Bill's friends). Hillary is Republican Lite.

After her tragic, disastrous vote in 2002 on the war; and her continued support of the war - HILLARY SHOULD NOT HAVE RUN for president.

Then Hillary began to lie - about Bosnia and other things. Had the Democrats dominated war-monger Hillar who would "obliterate" Iran and "we all remember JFK's assassination"... I would not have given

[CANTvoteHillary]

Whining and infighting among Demos will hand the election to McCain.

@@@

Who are you voting for, clever guy? You sound like you don't even have a stake in this election.

BTW I went to your channel, it is pretty lame.

[CosmoPlavix]

I'm not voting for you or for any other name-calling, weak-kneed crybaby who thinks the most important thing to worry about is what Hillary Clinton said months ago. Who's asking about the Terrorist Watch List, the collapse of the economy, the trashing of the Constitution, and the gutting of the Endangered Species ACT? Not Barack Obama. Not the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is a neutered, shallow shadow of what it once was- the protector of the workers and the disenfranchised.

[CANTvoteHillary]

I'm not voting for you or for any other name-calling, weak-kneed crybaby who thinks the most important thing to worry about is what Hillary Clinton said

@@@

LOL

MASSIVE WIMP-OUT!!!! YOU'RE GOING TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES AN THROW ROCKS AT OBAMA AND THE DEMS!!!

Voting for loser, Nader? or loser McKinney??

And then you're going to whine for the next 4 years about the 2 major parties!!!

[CosmoPlavix]

You have no clue about who I'll vote for, and capital letters don't make up for a lack of imagination. You have no answer to my points, or you would have provided it. In the new America, logic is dangerous.

Make sure your name isn't on the Terrorist Watch List while you worship the next phony personality propped up to entertain you. Sweet dreams. Now please leave me alone.

[CANTvoteHillary]

You have no clue about who I'll vote for, and capital letters don't make up for a lack of imagination.

@@@@

I'm imagining, imagining... It's coming to me... I see.. a hopelessly losing candidate for president... YES.. RALPH NADER!!!!

[CosmoPlavix]

Winning and losing are everything to a moron.

[Ralphdraw3]

using the word "moron" to descrive the author gets one blocked...

Adios Amigo!!! Que Viva Nader!!

[CosmoPlavix]

Regarding my channel- I would rather be thought lame than as someone who can do nothing but re-chew someone else's food. Thanks for taking the time to whine at me. I'm sure it will improve things in the U.S.

[Steadno]

Hilly was a sexy little thing 100 years ago.

[EKSartist]

Hillary had every advantage going into this race -- the money, the name recognition, connections, etc. The fact she lost has very little to do with sexism, and almost everything to do with her badly run campaign and her voting record on important issues. I never supported her -- even though I would like to see a woman in the White House. It will happen someday, but Hillary is not the one.

Enough of the sour grapes!

[osiris33]

Hillary supporters have NO CLASS... disappointment is not an excuse to throw out class

[paultherolls]

If Obama is ambitious enough he will take her as VP. Picture him holding his nose. If he picks her then Mccain is a dead duck.

[CNN911Fakes]

at v3:19...

priceless. "Hillayr is a liberman democrat"

yeh, a pawn of GHWB!

[erkd1]

All of the DLC Democrats are terrible, its not because she is a woman its because all the DLC members are DINOs.

[cosmlayla]

I am a woman and I am not a Hillary Supporter.

I agree with you about her support of war. Also, I never liked the way she ran her campaign and the dirty tactics she used against Obama. She's too Washington.

[hypnofan35]

So there is that one photo sitting with McCain and Joe Blabbyman who seem to be wearing some kind of ceremonial garb. So what is that? Do Senators have special ceremonial clothing that they use as special ceremonial occasions when they get together? Maybe they do. There is another photo with lapel pins that were not flag pins.... There is an elitist party system that controls the two party system and they are above the law or will never be procecuted for crimes against the public.

[hypnofan35]

I would contend that hillary knew that 911 was going to happen, and if she didn't, she was able to figure out what was going on within ten seconds of the first tv coverage, just like GeorgeWadBush. Then she tried to play it to enhance her chances to become pres. Rupert Murdock was definitely in on 911, and there he is having smiley times with hillary. There she is hanging with Joe Blabbyman, the soon to be president once McCain prematurely croaks. Two party is masked elitist party system.

[fluffstyle]

Great video.

I couldn't agree more. The Republicans want to create the illusion that Hillary would be the safe pick. That way they can use her political baggage in full force. She would energize the Republican base. But if she is picked VP, I will still vote Democrat because I love my country. Unlike PUMA. Even though most of them are Republicans in Dem clothes.

[Vierotchka]

Intelligent women should not feel disappointed that a woman didn't get the nomination, because that is not the issue. What matters is to choose and elect the person best suited for the job. Hillary said that as president, she would obliterate Iran if it developed a nuclear bomb. That's not what a real woman would ever say.

[akesling]

I agree, she wanted the war in Iraq and should not be the nominee for the Democrats