@muyo613 That seems like a superficial view of ontology to me. You seem to be suggesting a formalist interpretation of mathematics, where we just make up mathematical entities as we go along. I dont know of anyone in philosophy of mathematics who still holds this view. How do we come to have knowledge about the triangle if there are none in the world that actually have 180 degrees?
I've been studying philosophy of science and philosophy of mathematics and I still can't figure out the distinction between claiming that mathematical structures underlie reality and numerology. Can someone explain it?
@featheon I'm not sure what you mean. Mathematics is just a human-constructed language to help describe patterns in the world. Mathematics doesn't really underlie reality, it's just that the pattern itself is out there. Humans just use math to communicate that pattern between ourselves.
@Niphrentil Its just that those are the first 3 digits of Pi and in that number of minutes into the video he says mathematician! Isn't exciting! lmfao
I had an urge to look into the book again and found the same words in it. Also,I went on to a Vedicsmath site on here and tried doing the long division using the Vedic methid and I tried 12345/9 and got 1371.666 as well as 54321/9 = 6025.666. Not knowing I'd get .666 twice.
The Chapter on The I-Ching.Started with; Decisions decision... Several weeks later. I went to the supermarket and I bought food that they sold to eat there. So, after I finished eating. I went to throw out the paper plate etc. AS I was trying to figureout where to put the different materials into the right recycling box. I heard a woman behind me say; "decisions decisions." I turned around. She smiled a little and I left. I didn't know where I heard it before.
I saw this movie once. I went to a library and bought a used book. It was the last one. It's just a small book. Title; Astrology & other Occult Games. I didn't really intend to buy it. I went to the library because there was a book I saw there the previous day about Robotic hands & arms & I thought they'd have it. But, it was gone. I lookd through the Astrology book and as an example it had a horoscope cast for April 18th. Which is my exact birthday.
I just realized that this guy is the same dude who played Arnold the Sleazebag in Requiem For A Dream. Amazing acting here, Aronofsky is up with the best. Him and Christifer Nolan are the leading pioneers for epic mindfucks.
David Lynch, Brothers Coen, P T Anderson and Darren Aronofsky are today for me U.S.A most important cineasts. Their films are an important experience. Darren has made very profound films about fights against addictions: "Requiem for a Dream" (title is a cold turkey already) and "The Wrestler" (man addicted to his champ identity). Darrens "Pi" and "The Fountain" are special for me: both about intellectual addictions: hybris of man wanting to rule world of finance or life and death with science..
@sumerian1111king You are looking at the total number of events of a certain type, that applies to you, when the total set is really the total number of EVENTS. Period.
Consider the following, let's say there have been a billion lotteries on the earth in a given time period. What is then the odds that someone will win two lotteries in a row? If that is pretty high then what about the person who wins, will he not feel chosen by the stars? Because he sees not inevitability only 'ME ME ME'.
@sumerian1111king Consider now, extending the lottery example to the total set of probabillity events. You have the odds of winning the lottery two times in a row, the odds of being hit by a meteor, the odds of meeting the president by accident etc etc etc for all persons not just one. The odds that you will hear about fish same day you talk about fish, and get a fishing accident? What are the odds all people will have multiple low-odds events coincide in some event type or another? VERY high.
@sumerian1111king Simply put the number of events in a persons life is extreamly high. Everyone has that effect.
Also add to it memory bias where the mind rewrites details of memories after an event to fill in the blanks, not just in some people but in all from time to time, add in cognitive bias where people look for something and shadow out other things. Then you have a recipie for finding anything you try to look for.
@sumerian1111king Some people in this world are bound to have a license plate spelling a word of some supernatural sort. Some people are bound to see that license plate. Among those who watch only those who are somehow interested already will take not of it. The rest will lose it in their memories of the infinitesmal details of everyday life.
Those people will feel like the lottery winner chosen by the stars.
Interesting thing. I cannot stop NFL playclocks on 11:11 seconds to go on any given quarter. I cannot calculate a purchase + tax to give me a price of $11.11 or change back of $11.11 I cannot calculate that the approval code for a debit card transaction will be 11/11/11. You can try to explain with psychology all day until you are blue in the face. You cannot orchestrate subconsciously that there will be a car that pulls in front of u with the license plate 1111.
When you MEASURE something, it changes, so it's impossible to predict accurately. All you can get are probabilities.
So even if you can predict the Stock Market, as soon as you play the stock market, or as soon as anyone else knows you have a system even, the system no longer works.
*** You can't measure a system you are a part of. ***
Once you measure it, the system changes.
The best you can do is measure probabilities of different outcomes.
@Chnamanjx I think you don't really understand the uncertainty principle in Quantum Mechanics because your analogy is flawed.
One person has little influence on the stock market, just reading about it in the newspaper will definitely not cause it to crash. But in QM you are dealing with stuff that's so small that even an observation (one factor) will dramatically influence the outcome no matter what.
The stock market is unpredictable because there are billions of factors.
@shinshialee Mathematics have to do with God, he has set up things in our existance according to certain laws such as geometry, Physics, DNA, mathematics are all a design in which Yahweh has created things
An illusion, created by nomads to keep their people together, mostly through fear of offending this imaginary God.
Then it was adapted by the Christians and Muslims. They expanded it with the idea of eternal torture for not obeying or joining their Religion. This ingenious invention caused both religions to spread and retain members at a high rate through intense fear of Hell.
@SmokiSounds My mistake, I meant YOUR God doesn't exist. Yahweh probably? Or Allah? Or Jehova?
Your particular God, and all the stories about him are fake, made up by the ruling class who wanted to keep their working or peasant class from revolting. Also a great way to fleece extra money.
@noxure Gematria is not crap....go to yahoo and search gematria calculator....and toll around with it you will see certain similar meaning words calculate often to the same values.
religious juice?
McShiat 1 month ago
Btw 216 is 6*6*6.
Huah!
Gronkor 1 month ago
I believe.
Michael3McEachern 6 months ago
911 "truthers" should check out this clip. An important lesson for them.
bcbobbie 7 months ago 6
@bcbobbie A lot of people would, I did when I first saw it.
bassbole 4 months ago
This bottom suckers taking ad money for someone else's work is sickening.
kanshou 8 months ago
@muyo613 That seems like a superficial view of ontology to me. You seem to be suggesting a formalist interpretation of mathematics, where we just make up mathematical entities as we go along. I dont know of anyone in philosophy of mathematics who still holds this view. How do we come to have knowledge about the triangle if there are none in the world that actually have 180 degrees?
featheon 8 months ago
I've been studying philosophy of science and philosophy of mathematics and I still can't figure out the distinction between claiming that mathematical structures underlie reality and numerology. Can someone explain it?
featheon 9 months ago
@featheon I'm not sure what you mean. Mathematics is just a human-constructed language to help describe patterns in the world. Mathematics doesn't really underlie reality, it's just that the pattern itself is out there. Humans just use math to communicate that pattern between ourselves.
muyo613 8 months ago
Wicked cool...4 dislikes...pfffff...get real!
freenumerologyx 9 months ago
Genius film! I love it!
Vojife 10 months ago
one of my favorite scenes in the movie. And I must say: Mark Margolis has one of the most delightful accent I've ever heard. ♥
patchworkofmica 10 months ago 4
Mark Margolis is one of my favorite actors. This is a scary movie; for me anyway.
paroketh 10 months ago
3:14 "mathematician!"lol
Dolphidood 10 months ago
@Dolphidood lol? for what?
Niphrentil 10 months ago
@Niphrentil Its just that those are the first 3 digits of Pi and in that number of minutes into the video he says mathematician! Isn't exciting! lmfao
Dolphidood 10 months ago
@Dolphidood Oh, ok... I thought he misspronounced the word or something! Well, I guess it's just a coincidence! :)
Niphrentil 10 months ago
@Dolphidood
lol pi is everywhere in nature!!
dycarbon1 10 months ago
I had an urge to look into the book again and found the same words in it. Also,I went on to a Vedicsmath site on here and tried doing the long division using the Vedic methid and I tried 12345/9 and got 1371.666 as well as 54321/9 = 6025.666. Not knowing I'd get .666 twice.
MrMartinzztop 10 months ago
@MrMartinzztop 123/9 = 13.666... , 321/9 = 35.666... too. The divisors are 666... upsidedown as well.
MrMartinzztop 10 months ago
The Chapter on The I-Ching.Started with; Decisions decision... Several weeks later. I went to the supermarket and I bought food that they sold to eat there. So, after I finished eating. I went to throw out the paper plate etc. AS I was trying to figureout where to put the different materials into the right recycling box. I heard a woman behind me say; "decisions decisions." I turned around. She smiled a little and I left. I didn't know where I heard it before.
MrMartinzztop 10 months ago
I saw this movie once. I went to a library and bought a used book. It was the last one. It's just a small book. Title; Astrology & other Occult Games. I didn't really intend to buy it. I went to the library because there was a book I saw there the previous day about Robotic hands & arms & I thought they'd have it. But, it was gone. I lookd through the Astrology book and as an example it had a horoscope cast for April 18th. Which is my exact birthday.
MrMartinzztop 10 months ago
Kinda like when you buy a new car and all the sudden you see the same car everywhere. Reality is stranger than fiction
whatever3210 11 months ago
did you purposefully make it so that precisely at 2:16 in this video max says 216?
PokeWizKev826 11 months ago 10
@PokeWizKev826
Its actúally at 2:18...
ManicMindTrick 2 months ago
@ManicMindTrick 9 months ago it lined up perfectly haha. Dunno what happened now though..
PokeWizKev826 2 months ago
@PokeWizKev826
I know youtube have fucked up a lot of my clip, made them out of sync, but i didnt think it was possible for that to happen.
ManicMindTrick 2 months ago
@PokeWizKev826 he says it a 2:18 actually
Xephei 3 days ago
In the film Max is right, in reality he would be a paranoid pareidoliac idiot.
... or would he??
...
...yes.
weavehole 11 months ago
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filthy23 1 year ago
See "A Chronology of Torah Cryptography" on the Cornell University Scientific Archive
GrenvilleCroll 1 year ago
This was well cast like all of Aronofsky's films.
Haseeb2 1 year ago
it's true, every scientific pursuit has its own holy grail.
For us, the fully understood Totipotent stem cell.
ahfat83 1 year ago
Christopher Nolan is for me the best director at the moment, Darren aronofsky is wonderful too.
PoochMount18 1 year ago
I just realized that this guy is the same dude who played Arnold the Sleazebag in Requiem For A Dream. Amazing acting here, Aronofsky is up with the best. Him and Christifer Nolan are the leading pioneers for epic mindfucks.
TheElusiveBirdMan 1 year ago
YHWH Yireh (Yahweh will Provide) = 216
UFOGEAR 1 year ago
2:16
steadilyshine09 1 year ago
From a shameless numerologist:
216 = "the inner or hidden sanctuary of the temple"
Just something cool that enriches the plot if you think about it.
aeunuchsthroat 1 year ago
Where can I see this movie for free?
munemuso 1 year ago
@munemuso you can create a 1 month free account on netflix, I think I have seen the movie there.
Nine9Hundred00 1 year ago
David Lynch, Brothers Coen, P T Anderson and Darren Aronofsky are today for me U.S.A most important cineasts. Their films are an important experience. Darren has made very profound films about fights against addictions: "Requiem for a Dream" (title is a cold turkey already) and "The Wrestler" (man addicted to his champ identity). Darrens "Pi" and "The Fountain" are special for me: both about intellectual addictions: hybris of man wanting to rule world of finance or life and death with science..
Contextcatcher 1 year ago
3 People dislike math and science
kurt2rsenjazz 1 year ago
Has anyone seen Beautiful mind? Amazing to!
UndisclosedDesirable 1 year ago
"As soon as you discard scientific rigor, you're no longer a mathematician, you're a numerologist!"
Beautiful
TitanFanCA 1 year ago 3
Nor can I orchestrate a car that pulls up in front of me that has a license plate that is
"ELOHIM". Not once but twice in a 6 month period
sumerian1111king 1 year ago
@sumerian1111king You are looking at the total number of events of a certain type, that applies to you, when the total set is really the total number of EVENTS. Period.
Consider the following, let's say there have been a billion lotteries on the earth in a given time period. What is then the odds that someone will win two lotteries in a row? If that is pretty high then what about the person who wins, will he not feel chosen by the stars? Because he sees not inevitability only 'ME ME ME'.
stiaa04 1 year ago
@sumerian1111king Consider now, extending the lottery example to the total set of probabillity events. You have the odds of winning the lottery two times in a row, the odds of being hit by a meteor, the odds of meeting the president by accident etc etc etc for all persons not just one. The odds that you will hear about fish same day you talk about fish, and get a fishing accident? What are the odds all people will have multiple low-odds events coincide in some event type or another? VERY high.
stiaa04 1 year ago
@sumerian1111king Simply put the number of events in a persons life is extreamly high. Everyone has that effect.
Also add to it memory bias where the mind rewrites details of memories after an event to fill in the blanks, not just in some people but in all from time to time, add in cognitive bias where people look for something and shadow out other things. Then you have a recipie for finding anything you try to look for.
stiaa04 1 year ago
@sumerian1111king Some people in this world are bound to have a license plate spelling a word of some supernatural sort. Some people are bound to see that license plate. Among those who watch only those who are somehow interested already will take not of it. The rest will lose it in their memories of the infinitesmal details of everyday life.
Those people will feel like the lottery winner chosen by the stars.
stiaa04 1 year ago
Interesting thing. I cannot stop NFL playclocks on 11:11 seconds to go on any given quarter. I cannot calculate a purchase + tax to give me a price of $11.11 or change back of $11.11 I cannot calculate that the approval code for a debit card transaction will be 11/11/11. You can try to explain with psychology all day until you are blue in the face. You cannot orchestrate subconsciously that there will be a car that pulls in front of u with the license plate 1111.
sumerian1111king 1 year ago
....you are no longer a mathematician, you're a numerologist.
ClaytonOT 1 year ago
poor old Sol... he knew the number kills, and tried to save Max, but in the end gived up to temptation :( well, at least Max found his way out.
iwantcoolname 1 year ago
Amazing movie
veyenoord 1 year ago
Quantum Mechanics actually has the answer.
When you MEASURE something, it changes, so it's impossible to predict accurately. All you can get are probabilities.
So even if you can predict the Stock Market, as soon as you play the stock market, or as soon as anyone else knows you have a system even, the system no longer works.
*** You can't measure a system you are a part of. ***
Once you measure it, the system changes.
The best you can do is measure probabilities of different outcomes.
Chnamanjx 1 year ago
you tell Yahweh He doesn't exist....LOL!
chrisn9ne 1 year ago
@Chnamanjx I think you don't really understand the uncertainty principle in Quantum Mechanics because your analogy is flawed.
One person has little influence on the stock market, just reading about it in the newspaper will definitely not cause it to crash. But in QM you are dealing with stuff that's so small that even an observation (one factor) will dramatically influence the outcome no matter what.
The stock market is unpredictable because there are billions of factors.
noxure 1 year ago
Actor playing Sol should have gotten best supporting actor awards.
Chnamanjx 1 year ago
numbers didn't exist as we know them in biblical times
God is a woman, the creator.
The arguments are about math; only a mathematician would appreciate that : )
shinshialee 1 year ago
Black and white films are beautiful.
mindelo23 1 year ago
You all miss the point. This isn't about God at all but about mathematics.
shinshialee 1 year ago
@shinshialee Mathematics have to do with God, he has set up things in our existance according to certain laws such as geometry, Physics, DNA, mathematics are all a design in which Yahweh has created things
chrisn9ne 1 year ago
Math theories are proven, God is not.
God doesn't exist.
An illusion, created by nomads to keep their people together, mostly through fear of offending this imaginary God.
Then it was adapted by the Christians and Muslims. They expanded it with the idea of eternal torture for not obeying or joining their Religion. This ingenious invention caused both religions to spread and retain members at a high rate through intense fear of Hell.
Chnamanjx 1 year ago
@Chnamanjx
Nice try, third-grader. Also, solid logic: God isn't proven = God doesn't exist. Lol. Poor kid. Did you copy/paste that from somewhere? :)
Faith is so much bigger than your superficial understanding that it's amusing to watch you babble idiocy. Like a little puppy barking. Woof woof.
SmokiSounds 1 year ago
@SmokiSounds My mistake, I meant YOUR God doesn't exist. Yahweh probably? Or Allah? Or Jehova?
Your particular God, and all the stories about him are fake, made up by the ruling class who wanted to keep their working or peasant class from revolting. Also a great way to fleece extra money.
Chnamanjx 1 year ago
@Chnamanjx Hauntings can be dispelled by recitation of holy scriptures.
l4ujk 1 year ago
6x6x6=216
in Revelation on the same page it mentions 144,000....right after it mentions the verse about 666(Rev. 13:18)
when you divide 144,000/666=216.216.216.216......
0bamas first name in gematria calculates to 216.......you do the rest
chrisn9ne 1 year ago
It's even more beautiful then that: 3³+4³+5³=6³ !
Gematria is a silly superstition however.
My personal file-number in the company I work is also 216. :)
noxure 1 year ago
@noxure Gematria is not crap....go to yahoo and search gematria calculator....and toll around with it you will see certain similar meaning words calculate often to the same values.
chrisn9ne 1 year ago 2
sol cracks me up everytime i hear him say to max hes gotta slow down and take a breath
hell every scene with sol in thip film is epic and entertaining
motherbrain86 2 years ago
So why couldn't it be both?...
...oh wait, my daughter just somehow managed to get her foot stuck in the toilet!
I see your point...perhaps.
uncyclopedia*wikia*com/wiki/Intelligent_Design
W's*allaboutscience*org/intelligent-design*htm
GnosticNinja 2 years ago
One of my favorite flicks of all time.
Lots of heavy duty stuff in this movie. (if you know)
GnosticNinja 2 years ago 2
This is an amazing movie. It shows exactly why we'll never be able to prove God's existence, the best we can do is have faith in the numbers.
drunkdonutboy 2 years ago
Oh, perhaps you've never heard of Dan Winter?
"Golden Mean"? "Vortex Physics"?
Seems to me science is rediscovering what ancient cultures already knew.
Time is circular & abstract.
"God" is not an old man that sits up in a cloud but rather an all pervasive intelligent energy that permeates all matter.
All the evidence we need is in the fractality of nature.
GnosticNinja 2 years ago
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drunkdonutboy 2 years ago
""God" is not an old man that sits up in a cloud but rather an all pervasive intelligent energy that permeates all matter.
All the evidence we need is in the fractality of nature. "
It feels like your questioning me...why? That's exactly what I was saying.
drunkdonutboy 2 years ago
competant ....but not intellegent perhaps.
temporaldisplacement 2 years ago
this movie is beautiful.
salvador0919 2 years ago 35
o0 so only 6000 dollars?
IskArioT27 2 years ago 2
Tihs mivoe loosk ncie
jcd0033 2 years ago 2
@jcd0033 You messed up on lokos. You didn't put "s" at the end, but ya you really should watch this movie. It's awesome!
animenice 2 years ago
what a great flic !
stevegoff420 2 years ago
Fantastic.
logwind 2 years ago
it's really great like others aronofsky films like requiiem for a dream, the fountain ;)
RadikalasMC 2 years ago
so true, one of my favorite movies!
Nanumir 2 years ago
This movie looks really good. Want to watch it.
fixtaman 3 years ago
It is very good. Go buy it (or download it) tonight!
fiockthis 2 years ago
Stimulating illegal activities is against the LAW!!!!!!!!!!!! Expect to be arrested by the FBI!!!!!!!!! :O:O
TheAntiChr1st 2 years ago
Ahahaha. This is one of the very few movies I actually bought.. it was worth it.
"You wouldn't steal a car.. so why would you steal a movie?"
fiockthis 2 years ago
@fiockthis
If I could download a car, I would.
agentzchango 2 years ago 3
I wish I could download food
fiockthis 2 years ago 2
hahah yeah i hate that advert.
"you wouldnt steal a car" - who the hell are they to tell me what i would and wouldnt do. i might steal a car!! lol
rabarino 2 years ago 3
Wait, is there an advertisement you actually like?
;-)
fiockthis 2 years ago
Each of Aronofsky's films are so unique and thoughtful.
suexian 3 years ago 39
@suexian
Guess you didn't watch The Fountain lol....
fireking345 1 year ago
@fireking345
Whatever. The Fountain kicks ass.
It's about getting over the fact that "you do" die and "you will" die.
A lot of people just don't want to think about that kind of shit.
Npowell01 1 year ago
one of my favorite movies!
oneminutetomidnight 3 years ago
my favorite scene. top 10 movie easy
JerseyLegend 3 years ago
great suspenseful movie... this was the most important scene!
ClNDl 3 years ago