apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
do you now that alexander is called skender in some eastern places
and that the sultan named Gjergj Kastrioti after his iliryrian strateg Alexander
and the turks knew that cause they came from the east and they knew from where from Alexander was.... do you know what hellas means in ilyrian...weak person!!!
if we've stollen everything from greeks then what does my name Ijoni means in greece. cause in albanian these a meaning. and by the way since we are pure barbarians we have used and still use pagan symbols like the Skanderbeg helmet
These pagan symbols are Greek symbols that you use. Skanderbeg is some retarded way the albanians say Alexandros. The proper spelling and pronounciation is found on coins and inscriptions from 2,000 years ago!
BTW, how do you spell Ljoni in Illyrian??? hahaha, YOU CAN'T!!!!!
first of all my name is not Ljoni u f* dumb idiot but Ijoni with a capital I
second is that i didn't said that the word skanderbefg derives from albanian cuz probably does not only what i said is THAT HE IS 100 % what is said by historian greeks a 'barbarian',an out the marriage son(since his mother,olympia(an illyrian ) was already pregnant when she married philip), an 'god damn illyrian' a greek would say
macedonians-cretans-athenians-spartans-thracians-meacynians-myrmidons they were all greeks....just they were named after their own birthplace you fucking stupid barbarians
Also the name Philip or Philippos (φίλιππος) is coming from the Greek words philos (φίλος) which means friend and ippos (ίππος) which means hoarse, and this is why when we write his name we use 2 p, because the Greek word ippos it also be write with 2 p. So, Philip or Philippos is someone which is friend with horses. Can you do that by the use of your Fyrom language? Its the same for all the other Macedonian names.
Do you know the meaning of the name Alexander? Do you? I am Greek and I am able to understand it with my language, are you? The name is coming from the Greek words alexo (αλέξω) means I protect and andras (άνδρας) mean man. So Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) is the man who protects or the protector of the men. Can you do what I just did by the use of my language? Can you do it with your language? I think not. Its the same for every other Macedonian name. DOCUMENTS, FACTS...GAME OVER
Ελλα ρε Ελληνάρα, μην ασχολιέσαι με τα κατώτερα είδη. Τι νόημα έχει να αποδειξεις σε ζώα ότι έχεις δίκαιο. Δεν θα το καταλάβουν ούτως ή άλλως. Ας γαυγίζουν όσο θέλουν, η ιστορία είναι με το μέρος μας
Η ιστορια αδερφε ειναι με το μερος μας, οι πολιτικοι ομως δεν ειναι. οσο για την ιστορια μην εισαι και τοσο σιγουρος, τα βιβλια αλλαζουν χρονο με το χρονο. Δεν θα περασει πολυς καιρος μεχρι να μας το παρουν το ονομα.
if you are nothing you stole something to be special.That is what you do, but always stay to look the glory of greece then ,now ,and the future.Our history continued.Keep watching ......
when Greeks fought NAZIs you gave them help...Greek achieved the greatest victory against NAZIs at 1940...if you cannot read, ask your slav-albanian grandfathers...
Alexander the Great used to talk and write in Greek...you are fool you think that the whole world will believe your nonsenses...Macedonians were Greek and have nothing to do with Slavs...all world is laughing at you...
If you have been brainwashed for 60 years you`ll be ready even to clame yourself whatever they say you are. Read Oruel`s "1984". They live in the saqme fake world. Best wishes from Bulgaria.
Do you know who are Macedonians.7000 years b.c the god Osiris had two sons 1 Anubis 2 Macedon.Anubis has go to North Africa and build the egyptian people.And the 2 Macedon go to today known as Vardarska,Pirinska and Egejska Macedonia.That is true!why?Because that Macedonia have the same conditions of climate that have Egypt that is weird.isn't it?Two brother go to places who had the same conditions of climate.And that 2 nations never go in war?Alexander is faraon without war!Do you see the truth
no no no you are wrong i have some comic books here and it says that makedonians was CHINESE the king of the cing dong long dynasty moved back then at north of greece and established the new nation called makedonia ALEXANDER though was half JAPANESE
becouse king cing dong long was married to japanese prince that was the reason he moved away from CHINA
you fucking fakedonian SeZaMakedonija
what kind of comic books you read????
my is the best and proove me that i am wrong bitch......
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ahahahahaha man you people are so dumb you even make up stories an believe in them ahahahaha IS THAT YOUR OFFICIAL PROOF OF YOUR MECEDONIAN ANCESTRY ?AHAHAHAHAHA
You say whatever you want , we are HELLENES too .. sure Alexander has never stated he's Greek although the word Greek is older than the word Hellene .
u said the most ridicilus thing i have ever heard!!!!
HELLAS is the name of our country!!!!
GREECE is the name that turks gave us!!!!
greek means grekos which also means slave!!!!
when we were under turkey they named us greeks!!!! OUR true name is HELLAS and u idiots from fyrom are not like us u were made when soviet union was broken and we were exists before that so stfu!!!!
u believe ur goverment just cause u have no history and u want to have!!!! u steal someone else's history!!!!
Dear brothers from Skopia and Vardarska,you found and use Greek-Hellenic-Yunanic,Symbols,Names,Flags,Words etc. Please weak up!!! Macedonia-Macednia-Macednos,means Tall Greek...becose Mace was Mice and mean High-Tall and Donia was Dnia and mean Danaos-Greek...MACEDON MEAN TALL GREEK!!!
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FUCK OFF LITTLE BASTARDS YOU THING YOU HAVE POWER TO DESTROY US BUT LOVE MAKE US UNIQUE VERGINA IN THE 6 CENTURY BEFORE CHRIST SHOWS ABOVE MACEDONIA JUST AT THE ANGLE OF 90 DEGREES IT ALEKSANDAR MAKEDONSKI HATED GREEKS THATS WHY HE CREATED OUR COUNTRY THE COUNTRY OF GOD LOVE AND HONOR . macedonia forever
from the second you decided to refer to alexander the great as ALEXANDAR MAKEDONSKI we can undersatnd clearly who is the real macedonian here and who isnt!!
and just so you learn how the name is realy written and how the macedonians wrote it, its like that:
Sixteen and eight-pointed suns often appear in Macedonian and Hellenistic coins and shields of that period. However, there are also a number of depictions of Athenian hoplites bearing an identical sixteen-pointed symbol on their armor as early as the 6th century BC, as well as coin designs from island and mainland Greece bearing eight or sixteen-pointed sun symbols (Corfu, 5th century BC, Locris, 4th century BC).
autos einai o monos akyros edo apo ta ola sxolia mas. einai to monadiko pargma pou kseroun oi skopianoi na apantane otan oloi oi ellhnes milane me gegonota kai apodeikseis
If you knew a little bit of the historical facts and if you weren't so fucking brainwashed,you would know that Skopje WAS NEVER A CITY OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIA,but a city of PAEONIA!!Under OTTOMAN empire, the geographical territory of Macedonia occupies and the city of SKOPJE!! Listen little moron, you are a gypsy slav without identity and inferiority complex for your real origin..the gypsoslavic!!Whatever you say, HISTORY CANNOT BE CHANGED!! So, Macedonia was is and will ALWAYS be HELLENIC!! :)
Alexander the Great was Greek.All the monuments and all the scripts found in Macedonia are in Greek and the Macedonians worshiped the same 12 gods who worshiped the other Greeks.Even the sun of Bergina is a panhellhnic symbol(from the Cycladistic times).
You slavs what prove you have that Megas Alexandros is Slav??????
The weapons from the Albanian graves also display "astonishing similarities" to those from the Mycenaean Grave Circles.5 After considering several factors, Hammond concluded that "the answer can only be that the tumulus-burials of Albania are the antecedents" of the Mycenaean burials.
I don't think that you may have a clear idea whats mean Real History!
APPLYING THE REVISED CHRONOLOGY by Edwin M. Schorr Seeking the origin of such grave circles, N. G. L. Hammond recently maintained that they came to Mycenae from Albania. Comparing the Mycenaean examples to Albanian grave mounds, he saw "close analogies in the details of the burial customs, the structure of the mortuary chambers, and the contents of the graves."3 Regarding the construction technique, "the similarities indeed are remarkably close."
According to Pindar: And even to the present day the Thracians, Illyrians, and Epeirotes live on the flanks of the Greeks (though this was still more the case formerly than now); indeed most of the country that at the present time is indisputably Greece is held by the barbarians--Macedonia and certain parts of Thessaly by the Thracians, and the parts above Acarnania and Aetolia by the Thesproti the Cassopaei, the Amphilochi the Molossi the Athamanes Epeirotic tribes.
Rmak you are a poor man:According to Pindar, "there was a time when the Boeotian tribe was called "Syes." {401} {402}(SYES in albanian means EYE) Moreover, the barbarian origin of some is indicated by their names Cecrops, Godrus, Aïclus, Cothus, Drymas, and Crinacus...
rmak:. Argives were inhabitant of Argos. Arogos was founded by Danaus. Danaus had originally been settled in Libya by his father, King Belus of Egypt, while Danaus 1's brother Aegyptus was settled in Arabia. As the brothers later quarrelled, and Danaus feared the sons of Aegyptus , he built a ship—being the first to do so—and, having put his 50 daughters (the DANAIDS) on board.
RMAK: So Danaos fucking stupid, werent greeks!Latin: "timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" it is in Eneide (Libro II, 49) di Publio Virgilio Marone, are the words that Laoconte pronunciate to the Troians, to convince them to not enter the Horse of Troia into the city ! Simply because the Danaos weren't greeks but Egyptians
RMAK: It was not till Hellen and his sons grew strong in Phthiotis & were invited as allies into the other cities, that one by one they gradually acquired from the connection the name of Hellenes The best proof of this is furnished by Homer he nowhere calls all of them by that name nor indeed any of them
rMAK: rMAK: Before the Trojan war there is no indication of any common action in Hellas nor indeed of the universal prevalence of the name on the contrary before the time of Hellen son of Deucalion, no such appellation existed but the country went by the names of the different tribes particularY of the Pelasgian.
Latin: "timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" it is in Eneide (Libro II, 49) di Publio Virgilio Marone, are the words that Laoconte pronunciate to the Troians, to convince them to not enter the Horse of Troia into the city ! Simply because the Danaos weren't greeks but Egyptians
Herodotus saw this transformation as following the invasion by Danaos (the Egyptian). The idea that the Pelasgians were the native population, converted to something more "Greek" by the invading Egyptians, also occurs in the plays of Aischylos and Euripides, written around the same time as Herodotus' Histories
"Pelasgians" is the name generally given by ancient writers to the peoples before the Hellenes. According to both Herodotus and Thucyclides, Pelasgians formed the largest element of the early population of Greece and the Aegean, and most of them were gradually assimilated by the Hellenes.
The PANHELLENIC TIMES prove the strong diference with the CLASSICAL HELLENIC TIMES."Pelasgians" is the name generally given by ancient writers to the peoples before the Hellenes. According to both Herodotus and Thucyclides, Pelasgians formed the largest element of the early population of Greece and the Aegean, and most of them were gradually assimilated by the Hellenes.
Emathian is a n epithet given to Alexander the Great; the name comes from the district of Emathia which was sometimes synonymous with Makedon (Macedon).
This is fullish!Original name of Macedonia was 'Emathia' which in Albanian language means the 'Great Land' hence the appellation 'Alexander the Great'.The same was true with Constantine the Great and Justinian the Great, all originating from the general area of Macedonia.
First of all Emperor Constantine native land is Germany from the city of Triari (Today Trier). Emperor Iostinianous, or Justinian was bor in Tauserium near present day Skopje in 482 A.D. First initial writtings of Albinous was from Pliny in the 1st AD, and of Olbonenses Ptolemy(Geofrapher/ Astronomer) in 2nd A.D.
Καλα και αυτα τα ζωα οι Σκοπιανοι πως θελον να μπουν στο ΝΑΤΟ αμα δεν εχουν πολεμικη δυναμη,ενα τιποτα εινε πως υα μπυν του 19 αιωνα εινε ακομα αυτοι!
They are like my Ancient ancestors Celtic-Iberians, Galaik-Lusitains, that maded Portugal(and Spain). They have the same Solar Circles and "Suastics"(Triskel).
Nowdays Portugal have Three fundamental simbols: "Quinas"- Five Center scuds with Five Circles interiors each other, that simbolizes JESUS CHRIST and the SALVATION, and the Five Empires, in a Scud; The Armilar SPHERE(ZOODÍAC)- Portuguese discoverys and the World Empire, and the Cross of Christ(Former Templars) connect to Discoveries.
Πουλησαν την Μακεδονια!!!Μονο ο Γ.Καρατζαφερης,ψηφιζε συνεχως,υπερ της Μακεδονιας!!!ΝΔ-ΠΑΣΟΚ-ΚΚΕ-ΣΥΝ κ.α.ψηφιζαν,αλλοτε υπερ,αλλοτε κατα κ αλλοτε αποχη!!!Προδοσια!!!Σ αυτες τις εκλογες τι θα ψηφισεις???Οποιος ψηφιζει προδοτες,ειναι προδοτης!!!
na mi vrizete tous voulgarous einai i apopsi mou mas exoun sfaksei pollakis kai sto prosfato parelthon kiriws logw kommounismou alla einai oi monoi pou exoun tin idia idea m emas gia to skopiano kai episis tous dinoume fai na ladosoun to anteraki tous..
ΠΡΟΔΟΤΕΣ!!!Την προηγουμενη εβδομαδα πουλησαν το ονομα της Μακεδονιας στην ΠΓΔΜ,οι "Ελληνες" Ευρωβουλευτες,πλην ενος,του πασιγνωστου Ελληνα!!!ΠΡΟΔΟΣΙΑ!!!
GYPSIES dont play with us we are the children from alexander the persian fucker and we will be the gypsies fucker when you dont stop with your lies bilieve me
Hellenic names everywhere!! Hellenic texts only!! The era following Alexander's conqust was termed Hellenistic because Alexander spread GREEK culture and language to the ENTIRE WORLD!! And you claim Alexander and the Macedons were slavs... you are rediculous!!
The funny thing is that this music is used by a video made by a fyromian who wants to prove that Macedonian is not Greek. And this guy uses Mythodea for his pathetic video. I've also heard a song of Elena Paparizou in one of their videos. This is truly amazing
you again? my friend you have no history as a nation so you dont know how it feels if someone steals your history. so who is a children the greeks who are fighting for their history or an asshole who comment a video he does not understand?
oh I do understand :) I'm in this sitaution too. I just move forward with it. The whole point of starting a new life is letting go of the past and enjoy the future. Not being held back in something that'll waste our time when we can be living life to the fullest. But, hey! it's your life.
Macedonia is Greek. Macedonian symbols are Greek. Fyrom is a nation built on a lie because of a politician named tito... if you have a problem with the poloitics of the balkans you should look into the communist who struggled to find an identity for a group of people who have none. Greece was the wrong country to try to steal from. Maybe you should have tried to steal from albanians or bulgarians.
jPod07, you live far away that's why you think like this. Of course, it's better this way you don't see hate. But know this. The state Fyrom geographically can be considered as an extention of Macedonia which starts from Greece. The only difference is that the people living there are not Greeks. Ancient Macedonians were. There were no Slavs in the area that time period. Of course, keep on thinking this way and remember, Greeks are not the enemy.
politics are in the nature of human race. democracy and voting is blessing. I dont like the way democracy works these days(as said, democracy its not the best regime its just the less bad) but yet again i have the power of voting and i'm satisfied with that. If you dont care about politics is like saying that you dont feel a part of the community. Its your choice for sure, but this ignorance and the fact that people are not concerned about politics brought us at this dead-end.
No, I didn't exactly say that. I also have the right of voting and I'm happy about it. I just wanted to tell iPod07 that the "Macedonian Issue" is a product from politicians of the neighboring state. That's why I told him (or her) "guess who started it".
I know the whole conflict I have a Macedonian background. I don't care about the history between Macedonia and Greece. I have a lot of Greek friends and we're all best friends. We don't care. Just stop trying to do something that will never change. Be the smart ones and just let it be.
Let it be? ok i come to your house i claim your wife as mine, your kid and your surname too. All you've done i claim it as mine. so, would you let it be? i guess you wouldnt
And jPod07 sorry for correcting u but u have a Vardarskian background i suppose. Not a macedonian-hence hellenic- backgound. There is no such thing as history between Macedonia and Greece. Macedonia as a term, as history and not as you mistakenly think we are reffering to your country, is one with Greece, in fact, IS GREECE
as I said I don't care. I still claim it as Macedonia. I don't care what anyone says. I just don't care about the whole conflict. It's pointless. Thats what I hate about europe! all the politics!
iPod07, as far as politics, you are right. Politics sucks. But don't blame Europe. It was not Europe who gave your politicians the idea of claiming a name that does not belond to you. Nobody likes this conflict between our countries but guess who started it.
and the other side continued it. politics suck. thats why I don't want to live in maco or greece. both nice countries (no matter what you say) but still. I think its wrong... we should just all be friends...
FabienneChantelle...Thanks for your support!!The truth will shine in the end!!Noone has the right to steal another nation's history,heroes,names,lands!!
Ξέρεις κάποτε είχε γίνει συλαλλητήριο στην Αθήνα. Ήμουν μικρή. Είχα πάει με τους δικούς μου. 4,5 εκ. άνθρωποι ζουν στην πρωτεύουσα. Ούτε η ΝΔ ούτε το ΠΑΣΟΚ προεκλογικά δεν μάζεψαν ποτέ τόσο κόσμο. Εγώ ήμουν στο Σύνταγμα. Είμασταν ο ένας πάνω στον άλλον. Αξέχαστο.
Όσο για το συλλαλητηριο προς το παρων διοργανωνεται στην Θεσσαλονικη γι'αυτο το ειπα,πιθανως κ γιατι εδω ειναι η Μακεδονια κ καλως ή κακως οι ανθρωποι εδω ειναι πιο ευαισθητοποιημενοι!!Στοχος ειναι 4 εκ υπογραφες,εμπρος ολοι υπογραψτε παιδια!!
το κειμενο που ειχα βαλει η συγκεκριμενη εκθεση(γιατι εκθεση ειναι)περιεχει κ 2 θετικα σημεια για μας που αφορουν κ την ενταξη των Σκοπιων στο ΝΑΤΟ κ Ε.Ε!!
Γιάννη, το ξέρεις αυτό εύχομαι. Μακάρι να έχουμε ελπίδες. Γιάννη μου, και στη Θεσσαλονίκη και στην Αθήνα. θα ήταν ιδανικό, φαντάζεσαι;;; Όλοι θα υπογράψουμε.....για την Μακεδονία ΜΑΣ
Since u want to be macedonian u have to start acting like one, Learn Greek respect motherland Greece and come unite with the rest of Greeks.MEGAS ALEXANDROS WAS PROUD TO BE GREEK, HE SAID HE IS GREEK [HELLINAS] & HE LOVED MOTHERLAND GREECE AND SPREAD HIS LANGUAGE HIS GREEK CIVILIZATION TO ALL EMPIRE,So stop hating the Greeks
so tell me slavic macedonian-wannabies, greeks in macedonia survived the roman empire, peaked in byztantine, survived the ottoman and still outnumbered the slavic migration of macedonia. How come the greeks in macedonia never spoke the bulgarian dialect u speak? or have bulgarian names? How come they spoke the same language as their macedonian fathers? So tell me, how the fuck you are able to call urselves macedonian?
Good video, good fact, Macedonians are GREEK! Worst music.
tuff253 1 month ago
@tuff253 thanks for your comment, but because I used a song of Vangelis Papathanasiou, youtube blocked this video and I changed the music..
philip11901 1 month ago
where did you get your info from?
superking95 1 year ago
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GREECE IS BANKRUPT. BANKRUPT IS GREECE.
dexameron 1 year ago
Ρε συνΈλληνες ! έχω ακούσει για αρχαιολογικούς τόπους που δέν επιτρέπωνται οι παραπάνω εξκαφές. Τί είναι αυτό που μας κρύβουν ? ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΕΝΩΣΗΣ !
niettevragen 1 year ago
Quite frankly, this is not even worthy of discussion! Makedonian's are Greek.
MolossianZagori 1 year ago
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apeleytherosame tin smirni k tin agira omws xriazomaste tin voithia sas gia na apeleytherwsoume k tis ipolipes xamenes patrides alla k na apotrepsoume tis isodo ton skopianwn sto paixnidi me to onoma macedonia!!!!mpite twra sto erepublik(to link apo katw) k voithiste k eseis tin ellada na ginei iperdimi.
w w w . erepublik . c o m / en / referrer/ figthforyourhistory
SeNioRoTatOs 2 years ago
The truth is one MACEDONIA means GREECE and Alexander the Great was Greek not Boulgarian or sth else!!!!
You can see it in every original
history book that he was writing an talking in greek language...
P.s. I don't believe that you don't have history or sth but Macedonia is Greek you have to admit it!!!!
sofia1441995 2 years ago
i'd like some real facts ....and open minded greeks to comment...not you....
you're ignorants
TheIjoni 2 years ago
do you now that alexander is called skender in some eastern places
and that the sultan named Gjergj Kastrioti after his iliryrian strateg Alexander
and the turks knew that cause they came from the east and they knew from where from Alexander was.... do you know what hellas means in ilyrian...weak person!!!
that fits you greeks fine enough
TheIjoni 2 years ago
oh really
if we've stollen everything from greeks then what does my name Ijoni means in greece. cause in albanian these a meaning. and by the way since we are pure barbarians we have used and still use pagan symbols like the Skanderbeg helmet
TheIjoni 2 years ago
@TheIjoni
These pagan symbols are Greek symbols that you use. Skanderbeg is some retarded way the albanians say Alexandros. The proper spelling and pronounciation is found on coins and inscriptions from 2,000 years ago!
BTW, how do you spell Ljoni in Illyrian??? hahaha, YOU CAN'T!!!!!
MolossianZagori 1 year ago
@MolossianZagori
first of all my name is not Ljoni u f* dumb idiot but Ijoni with a capital I
second is that i didn't said that the word skanderbefg derives from albanian cuz probably does not only what i said is THAT HE IS 100 % what is said by historian greeks a 'barbarian',an out the marriage son(since his mother,olympia(an illyrian ) was already pregnant when she married philip), an 'god damn illyrian' a greek would say
fuck you very much! :D
TheIjoni 1 year ago
@TheIjoni
it's quite obvious you are still having troubles with this subject. Every historian knows that Olympia (ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑ) is a Molossian.
MolossianZagori 11 months ago
macedonians-cretans-athenians-spartans-thracians-meacynians-myrmidons they were all greeks....just they were named after their own birthplace you fucking stupid barbarians
τιμη και δοξα στην πατρωα θρησκεια
LuciferTheHellknight 2 years ago 4
Also the name Philip or Philippos (φίλιππος) is coming from the Greek words philos (φίλος) which means friend and ippos (ίππος) which means hoarse, and this is why when we write his name we use 2 p, because the Greek word ippos it also be write with 2 p. So, Philip or Philippos is someone which is friend with horses. Can you do that by the use of your Fyrom language? Its the same for all the other Macedonian names.
dardanos21 2 years ago 4
Do you know the meaning of the name Alexander? Do you? I am Greek and I am able to understand it with my language, are you? The name is coming from the Greek words alexo (αλέξω) means I protect and andras (άνδρας) mean man. So Alexander (Αλέξανδρος) is the man who protects or the protector of the men. Can you do what I just did by the use of my language? Can you do it with your language? I think not. Its the same for every other Macedonian name. DOCUMENTS, FACTS...GAME OVER
dardanos21 2 years ago 12
Ελλα ρε Ελληνάρα, μην ασχολιέσαι με τα κατώτερα είδη. Τι νόημα έχει να αποδειξεις σε ζώα ότι έχεις δίκαιο. Δεν θα το καταλάβουν ούτως ή άλλως. Ας γαυγίζουν όσο θέλουν, η ιστορία είναι με το μέρος μας
ngiaxop06 2 years ago
Η ιστορια αδερφε ειναι με το μερος μας, οι πολιτικοι ομως δεν ειναι. οσο για την ιστορια μην εισαι και τοσο σιγουρος, τα βιβλια αλλαζουν χρονο με το χρονο. Δεν θα περασει πολυς καιρος μεχρι να μας το παρουν το ονομα.
dardanos21 2 years ago
@dardanos21 lets fuck up these barberian fucking thieves
TheFK93 1 year ago
I love watching this video! It's pure humiliation for the skop-jerks!
MolossianZagori 2 years ago
no coments!!
MACEDONIA IS GREEK!!
petdag 2 years ago 3
for example, fuck the greeks and their beautiful lies wich never get too far.
the world knows who are the oldest people in ballkans. that's the ALBANIANS.
alb2468 2 years ago
HAHA...NO COMENT!
Viketsr 2 years ago
to slav-albanian...
YOU DONT have tha guts to create a symbol for your country. (no history no symbols)
albanians- 2 heads eagle- stolen from vizantium-orthodox-stolen from ZEUS
slavs - sun of vergina- stolen from- HELLAS (look all the ancient buildings )
AND KNOW A QUESTION : EXPLAIN IF YOU CAN STUPIDS WHAT THIS SYMBOLS MEAN ??
sorry no history no explains he??
GRJIMMY195 2 years ago 6
to slav-albanians.....
if you are nothing you stole something to be special.That is what you do, but always stay to look the glory of greece then ,now ,and the future.Our history continued.Keep watching ......
GRJIMMY195 2 years ago 4
when Greeks fought NAZIs you gave them help...Greek achieved the greatest victory against NAZIs at 1940...if you cannot read, ask your slav-albanian grandfathers...
mick8180 2 years ago 3
Alexander the Great used to talk and write in Greek...you are fool you think that the whole world will believe your nonsenses...Macedonians were Greek and have nothing to do with Slavs...all world is laughing at you...
mick8180 2 years ago 4
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big greek FANTAZIA ... greek nation is dieing... so come on join as... MACEDONIANS.! oure imperi WILL RISE AGAIN..!!! MAKEDONIA
HILLSBECOMEHOLLES 2 years ago
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sofia1441995 2 years ago
the most valid evidence for your greek NAZI policy is that you still clam in 2009 that in Greece live 98% of pure greeks!!!
You are NAZI, you dont have your own history, but the time will show how big loosers are you
registriransum1 2 years ago
Hahaha yes only THE TIME 4000 YEARS SHOWS WHAT KIND OF NATION WE ARE SO SHUT UP !!!
YOUR NATION IS SLAVIC ! AND BE PROUD ABOUT THAT !!!
GO ASK TITO YOU LITTLE SHIT...
YOU CALL YOUR "NATION" MAKEDONES YOU WILL FIND REALL MAKEDONES ON THE WAY SO FUCK OFF
varimathrasgr 2 years ago 3
If you have been brainwashed for 60 years you`ll be ready even to clame yourself whatever they say you are. Read Oruel`s "1984". They live in the saqme fake world. Best wishes from Bulgaria.
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Macedonia for the Macedonians!Never greek :P
PeonianMK 2 years ago
very nice video.
but u shouldn't upload this!
because monkeydonians will watch the other symbols and they will steal them too.
hahahaha
polu wraio video anebaste ki alla!
nikoskoukos2 2 years ago
you are gays monkeydonians. in 24 hours we can destroy your fucken country, so close your mouth. history never change, macedonia is Greece.
you skopians don't even speak greek as alexander
limnmark 2 years ago 4
We demand truth and justice. Our great nation is prepared to DEFEND Greek Makedonia 'til the end.
GreekTerminator 2 years ago 3
BRAVO
SPARTANsenator2 2 years ago 6
Our Symbols express the qualities and powers of our Spirit! He who tries to stole our Symbols wants to "steal" our Spirit!
Lynkeas 2 years ago
The greeks are pure Hellens!Live them alone!Thay are childrens of Plato and Demosten!
/watch?v=k8lcQ14b0Bs&feature=channel_page
CassanderMakedon 2 years ago
Oldest writings about Macedonians are from
Helanik from Lezbos: "Makedonas monoi meta mison oikountes" ;)
CassanderMakedon 2 years ago
Skopian slavs just got pawned. stop stealing our legitimate history. fkn thieves
dionf85 3 years ago 3
amazing this PWNS the fyromian-vardaskan-skopjians 100%
complete PWNage
romu1us007 3 years ago 2
makedonia is greek.greece is the light of world.whatever u say is lie and incorect.now u can cry
irondimi 3 years ago 4
I as well thanks....
boianboev964 3 years ago
Thank you Macedoniabybirth for this amazing video and the truth but macedonia.
NUSRPKINA 3 years ago 2
ΕΣΤΙΝ ΟΥΝ ΕΛΛΑΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ Στράβων
zoeargiris 3 years ago 2
ilyrian belive in sun was thear belive you dick heads.
malsor4king 3 years ago
Even the Spartans had in the shoulders the Sun of Vergina.And in many ships the,navy used this symbol too!
It is a Greek symbol for all the Greeks,including Macedonians!
SarisaSoldier 3 years ago
Αυτός τε γαρ Έλλην ειμί γένος τωρχαίον.
I am myself a Greek by ancient descend.
Alexander of Macedonia,in Herodotos' book Kalliopi,IX,45
RAMADON74 3 years ago 9
WRAIO VIDEO MPRAVO
Thrallden 3 years ago 2
Exellent video, an other slap in the face of psevdo-macedonians, they can go to hell as far as am concerned, low life thieves of history! 5*
ellasAZ 3 years ago
Para polu kalo! 5* + share
TheChaonian 3 years ago
poli kalo video na blepoun oi koloskopianoi...pou ginan kai makedonia...
aPoliceZ 3 years ago
lol !
lowbent 3 years ago
Do you know who are Macedonians.7000 years b.c the god Osiris had two sons 1 Anubis 2 Macedon.Anubis has go to North Africa and build the egyptian people.And the 2 Macedon go to today known as Vardarska,Pirinska and Egejska Macedonia.That is true!why?Because that Macedonia have the same conditions of climate that have Egypt that is weird.isn't it?Two brother go to places who had the same conditions of climate.And that 2 nations never go in war?Alexander is faraon without war!Do you see the truth
SeZaMakedonija 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahaha that's not the truth!!!!
u are so idiot that u belive in egyptians gods!!!! alexander the great became pharao at egypt when he qonquered it!!!!
DevilKingGR 3 years ago
no no no you are wrong i have some comic books here and it says that makedonians was CHINESE the king of the cing dong long dynasty moved back then at north of greece and established the new nation called makedonia ALEXANDER though was half JAPANESE
becouse king cing dong long was married to japanese prince that was the reason he moved away from CHINA
you fucking fakedonian SeZaMakedonija
what kind of comic books you read????
my is the best and proove me that i am wrong bitch......
xarakiri 3 years ago 4
WTF ? o.O
Ragouel1991 3 years ago
diabase to comment aytou tou malaka parakatw
SeZaMakedonija
kai tha katalabeis giati tou edwsa tetoia apanthsh :xD
xarakiri 3 years ago
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ahahahahaha man you people are so dumb you even make up stories an believe in them ahahahaha IS THAT YOUR OFFICIAL PROOF OF YOUR MECEDONIAN ANCESTRY ?AHAHAHAHAHA
Ragouel1991 3 years ago
Mallon den apeuthinesai sto video...
spiliosp 3 years ago
You say whatever you want , we are HELLENES too .. sure Alexander has never stated he's Greek although the word Greek is older than the word Hellene .
Wake up !
JudasPriestStruck 3 years ago
alo evribodies Greek
I ava surprise for all yu Gentlman todayzz. I hava budifulz daughter to merry, Voula. She very pretty and need huzband. I eva plenty of e money.
ConTheGreekCon 3 years ago
u said the most ridicilus thing i have ever heard!!!!
HELLAS is the name of our country!!!!
GREECE is the name that turks gave us!!!!
greek means grekos which also means slave!!!!
when we were under turkey they named us greeks!!!! OUR true name is HELLAS and u idiots from fyrom are not like us u were made when soviet union was broken and we were exists before that so stfu!!!!
u believe ur goverment just cause u have no history and u want to have!!!! u steal someone else's history!!!!
DevilKingGR 3 years ago
@nenadsksk Tito Created your Country
Vardar Banovina ...you have nothing to do with
Macedonians...
Hermioni73 3 years ago 3
Dear brothers from Skopia and Vardarska,you found and use Greek-Hellenic-Yunanic,Symbols,Names,Flags,Words etc. Please weak up!!! Macedonia-Macednia-Macednos,means Tall Greek...becose Mace was Mice and mean High-Tall and Donia was Dnia and mean Danaos-Greek...MACEDON MEAN TALL GREEK!!!
APXH 3 years ago 4
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FUCK OFF LITTLE BASTARDS YOU THING YOU HAVE POWER TO DESTROY US BUT LOVE MAKE US UNIQUE VERGINA IN THE 6 CENTURY BEFORE CHRIST SHOWS ABOVE MACEDONIA JUST AT THE ANGLE OF 90 DEGREES IT ALEKSANDAR MAKEDONSKI HATED GREEKS THATS WHY HE CREATED OUR COUNTRY THE COUNTRY OF GOD LOVE AND HONOR . macedonia forever
nenadsksk 3 years ago
to nenadsksk@
from the second you decided to refer to alexander the great as ALEXANDAR MAKEDONSKI we can undersatnd clearly who is the real macedonian here and who isnt!!
and just so you learn how the name is realy written and how the macedonians wrote it, its like that:
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ!!
MACEDONIAisHELLAS 3 years ago 5
olh thn wra prospa8w na mhn grafw kakes lexeis kai na feromai politismena alla exun xeperasei ta oria oi skopianoi!!!
eleniaekGREECE 3 years ago 7
Sixteen and eight-pointed suns often appear in Macedonian and Hellenistic coins and shields of that period. However, there are also a number of depictions of Athenian hoplites bearing an identical sixteen-pointed symbol on their armor as early as the 6th century BC, as well as coin designs from island and mainland Greece bearing eight or sixteen-pointed sun symbols (Corfu, 5th century BC, Locris, 4th century BC).
OmegaAlfaDelta 3 years ago 2
MACEDONIA IS GREECE !!!
EagleAA 3 years ago 4
Macedonia is and will always be Greece,Greek's people Pride!!!!
nikosar 3 years ago 5
BARDARSKA opos leme SKATA-RSKA
ANIKES 4 years ago 2
betoni SCOPIA kopane !
ANIKES 4 years ago
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zivojno bitola makedonija
zivojno 4 years ago
autos einai o monos akyros edo apo ta ola sxolia mas. einai to monadiko pargma pou kseroun oi skopianoi na apantane otan oloi oi ellhnes milane me gegonota kai apodeikseis
mctolisCORFU 4 years ago
FYROM will be the Bulgarian province Vardarska ; Thuss will end monkeydonian Nuisance.
Gringoman911 4 years ago
To tragoudi einai apo ton Vangelis. De thimame onoma alla tha to breis einai apo mia diastimiki apostoli..
angeloz318 4 years ago 2
Είναι από τη Μυθωδία!
exhustler 4 years ago
pios to pezei to song poly oreo!
GreekNomad1 4 years ago
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the map u show is just bullshit, only because SKOPJE was an ancient macedonian city too....
about the attic colours, red yellow and black, all those colours are on the todays macedonian tradtional outfit....
dimit0 4 years ago
If you knew a little bit of the historical facts and if you weren't so fucking brainwashed,you would know that Skopje WAS NEVER A CITY OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIA,but a city of PAEONIA!!Under OTTOMAN empire, the geographical territory of Macedonia occupies and the city of SKOPJE!! Listen little moron, you are a gypsy slav without identity and inferiority complex for your real origin..the gypsoslavic!!Whatever you say, HISTORY CANNOT BE CHANGED!! So, Macedonia was is and will ALWAYS be HELLENIC!! :)
philip11901 4 years ago
the flag of Sicily seems to be derivate from the Athenian shield...
Roman Empire official political language was Latin but they spoke Greek, hmm could conclude that Italians and Greeks are the same people.
eduvc123 4 years ago
at 4:18
eduvc123 4 years ago
didn't you know that ancient Greeks colonized Seracuse? Greeks did inhabitate Sicily.
skiros24 4 years ago
Άξιος Φίλιππε! 5/5 !!
uspex40 4 years ago 3
Να είσαι καλά φίλε!! Ευχαριστώ πολύ!!
philip11901 4 years ago
mythodea ;))
di-a e-la
zeus come on
nikosaek27 4 years ago 2
Alexander the Great was Greek.All the monuments and all the scripts found in Macedonia are in Greek and the Macedonians worshiped the same 12 gods who worshiped the other Greeks.Even the sun of Bergina is a panhellhnic symbol(from the Cycladistic times).
You slavs what prove you have that Megas Alexandros is Slav??????
sintalkas55 4 years ago 2
3w(dot)varchive(dot)org/schorr/gravcir(dot)htm
The weapons from the Albanian graves also display "astonishing similarities" to those from the Mycenaean Grave Circles.5 After considering several factors, Hammond concluded that "the answer can only be that the tumulus-burials of Albania are the antecedents" of the Mycenaean burials.
I don't think that you may have a clear idea whats mean Real History!
1bilderberg 4 years ago
APPLYING THE REVISED CHRONOLOGY by Edwin M. Schorr Seeking the origin of such grave circles, N. G. L. Hammond recently maintained that they came to Mycenae from Albania. Comparing the Mycenaean examples to Albanian grave mounds, he saw "close analogies in the details of the burial customs, the structure of the mortuary chambers, and the contents of the graves."3 Regarding the construction technique, "the similarities indeed are remarkably close."
1bilderberg 4 years ago
So everone else in balkan pennisula remained pelasgian, beside the greeks that werent pelasgean!
1bilderberg 4 years ago
According to Pindar: And even to the present day the Thracians, Illyrians, and Epeirotes live on the flanks of the Greeks (though this was still more the case formerly than now); indeed most of the country that at the present time is indisputably Greece is held by the barbarians--Macedonia and certain parts of Thessaly by the Thracians, and the parts above Acarnania and Aetolia by the Thesproti the Cassopaei, the Amphilochi the Molossi the Athamanes Epeirotic tribes.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
Rmak you are a poor man:According to Pindar, "there was a time when the Boeotian tribe was called "Syes." {401} {402}(SYES in albanian means EYE) Moreover, the barbarian origin of some is indicated by their names Cecrops, Godrus, Aïclus, Cothus, Drymas, and Crinacus...
1bilderberg 4 years ago
Danaus fled to Hellas, where he took the kingdom of Argos from Gelanor, and named the inhabitants Danaans after himself.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
rmak:. Argives were inhabitant of Argos. Arogos was founded by Danaus. Danaus had originally been settled in Libya by his father, King Belus of Egypt, while Danaus 1's brother Aegyptus was settled in Arabia. As the brothers later quarrelled, and Danaus feared the sons of Aegyptus , he built a ship—being the first to do so—and, having put his 50 daughters (the DANAIDS) on board.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
RMAK: So Danaos fucking stupid, werent greeks!Latin: "timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" it is in Eneide (Libro II, 49) di Publio Virgilio Marone, are the words that Laoconte pronunciate to the Troians, to convince them to not enter the Horse of Troia into the city ! Simply because the Danaos weren't greeks but Egyptians
1bilderberg 4 years ago
RMAK: It was not till Hellen and his sons grew strong in Phthiotis & were invited as allies into the other cities, that one by one they gradually acquired from the connection the name of Hellenes The best proof of this is furnished by Homer he nowhere calls all of them by that name nor indeed any of them
1bilderberg 4 years ago
rMAK: rMAK: Before the Trojan war there is no indication of any common action in Hellas nor indeed of the universal prevalence of the name on the contrary before the time of Hellen son of Deucalion, no such appellation existed but the country went by the names of the different tribes particularY of the Pelasgian.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
Latin: "timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" it is in Eneide (Libro II, 49) di Publio Virgilio Marone, are the words that Laoconte pronunciate to the Troians, to convince them to not enter the Horse of Troia into the city ! Simply because the Danaos weren't greeks but Egyptians
1bilderberg 4 years ago
Herodotus saw this transformation as following the invasion by Danaos (the Egyptian). The idea that the Pelasgians were the native population, converted to something more "Greek" by the invading Egyptians, also occurs in the plays of Aischylos and Euripides, written around the same time as Herodotus' Histories
1bilderberg 4 years ago
"Pelasgians" is the name generally given by ancient writers to the peoples before the Hellenes. According to both Herodotus and Thucyclides, Pelasgians formed the largest element of the early population of Greece and the Aegean, and most of them were gradually assimilated by the Hellenes.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
The PANHELLENIC TIMES prove the strong diference with the CLASSICAL HELLENIC TIMES."Pelasgians" is the name generally given by ancient writers to the peoples before the Hellenes. According to both Herodotus and Thucyclides, Pelasgians formed the largest element of the early population of Greece and the Aegean, and most of them were gradually assimilated by the Hellenes.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
Emathian is a n epithet given to Alexander the Great; the name comes from the district of Emathia which was sometimes synonymous with Makedon (Macedon).
1bilderberg 4 years ago
This is fullish!Original name of Macedonia was 'Emathia' which in Albanian language means the 'Great Land' hence the appellation 'Alexander the Great'.The same was true with Constantine the Great and Justinian the Great, all originating from the general area of Macedonia.
1bilderberg 4 years ago
You most be tripping with Liquid Draino!!
First of all Emperor Constantine native land is Germany from the city of Triari (Today Trier). Emperor Iostinianous, or Justinian was bor in Tauserium near present day Skopje in 482 A.D. First initial writtings of Albinous was from Pliny in the 1st AD, and of Olbonenses Ptolemy(Geofrapher/ Astronomer) in 2nd A.D.
Albanoi.
garcia2ca 4 years ago
nomizo oti o Perdikas , itan o prwtos basilias tis Makedonias...
Panosthessgr 4 years ago
Philip 11901 there are so many other ... far better ... examples of the Panhellenic Sunburst you could have chosen to present here ...
GeoBBB123 4 years ago
Ενα τιποτα εινε λεω πως να μπουν λεω sorry για την ορθογραφια μου γραφω γρηγορα γι αυτο.
PrasinosMperes 4 years ago
Καλα και αυτα τα ζωα οι Σκοπιανοι πως θελον να μπουν στο ΝΑΤΟ αμα δεν εχουν πολεμικη δυναμη,ενα τιποτα εινε πως υα μπυν του 19 αιωνα εινε ακομα αυτοι!
PrasinosMperes 4 years ago
Ancient Greek civilization was connected and on communications to West Iberia and Europe too, I think.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 4 years ago
They are like my Ancient ancestors Celtic-Iberians, Galaik-Lusitains, that maded Portugal(and Spain). They have the same Solar Circles and "Suastics"(Triskel).
Nowdays Portugal have Three fundamental simbols: "Quinas"- Five Center scuds with Five Circles interiors each other, that simbolizes JESUS CHRIST and the SALVATION, and the Five Empires, in a Scud; The Armilar SPHERE(ZOODÍAC)- Portuguese discoverys and the World Empire, and the Cross of Christ(Former Templars) connect to Discoveries.
Luso515PorTuoGraal 4 years ago
Πουλησαν την Μακεδονια!!!Μονο ο Γ.Καρατζαφερης,ψηφιζε συνεχως,υπερ της Μακεδονιας!!!ΝΔ-ΠΑΣΟΚ-ΚΚΕ-ΣΥΝ κ.α.ψηφιζαν,αλλοτε υπερ,αλλοτε κατα κ αλλοτε αποχη!!!Προδοσια!!!Σ αυτες τις εκλογες τι θα ψηφισεις???Οποιος ψηφιζει προδοτες,ειναι προδοτης!!!
APXH 4 years ago
na mi vrizete tous voulgarous einai i apopsi mou mas exoun sfaksei pollakis kai sto prosfato parelthon kiriws logw kommounismou alla einai oi monoi pou exoun tin idia idea m emas gia to skopiano kai episis tous dinoume fai na ladosoun to anteraki tous..
Roverr23 4 years ago
ΠΡΟΔΟΤΕΣ!!!Την προηγουμενη εβδομαδα πουλησαν το ονομα της Μακεδονιας στην ΠΓΔΜ,οι "Ελληνες" Ευρωβουλευτες,πλην ενος,του πασιγνωστου Ελληνα!!!ΠΡΟΔΟΣΙΑ!!!
APXH 4 years ago
MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND WILL BE FOR EVER GREECE
GYPSIES dont play with us we are the children from alexander the persian fucker and we will be the gypsies fucker when you dont stop with your lies bilieve me
MAKEDONIA ELLADA ME TOLMH KAI ARETH
salonikios74 4 years ago
Hellenic names everywhere!! Hellenic texts only!! The era following Alexander's conqust was termed Hellenistic because Alexander spread GREEK culture and language to the ENTIRE WORLD!! And you claim Alexander and the Macedons were slavs... you are rediculous!!
GET YOUR OWN HISTORY LOOSERS!!
vetdino 4 years ago
Hey guys, what's the name of the song?
PirinBG 4 years ago
moment 1 by Vangelis , album Mythodea.
aetos1966a 4 years ago
VANGELIS IS THE GREAT GREEK MUSICIAN .
aetos1966a 4 years ago
I know who Vangelis is. I just did not know what is the name of the song.
PirinBG 4 years ago
The funny thing is that this music is used by a video made by a fyromian who wants to prove that Macedonian is not Greek. And this guy uses Mythodea for his pathetic video. I've also heard a song of Elena Paparizou in one of their videos. This is truly amazing
ath4ever 4 years ago
the gypses only gypses will be ..the vardaska banovina gypses
aetos1966a 4 years ago
Just turned the laptop on and received your comment.
The videos I referred to are really funny.
ath4ever 4 years ago
jPod07 and you have to make a history in order to have future as a nation.....ashold
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
what a load of babble from both nations. It's like watching a bunch of children fighting in school. They have to wake up to the real world.
jPod07 4 years ago
you again? my friend you have no history as a nation so you dont know how it feels if someone steals your history. so who is a children the greeks who are fighting for their history or an asshole who comment a video he does not understand?
dan991987 4 years ago
oh I do understand :) I'm in this sitaution too. I just move forward with it. The whole point of starting a new life is letting go of the past and enjoy the future. Not being held back in something that'll waste our time when we can be living life to the fullest. But, hey! it's your life.
jPod07 4 years ago
if you understand then i apologise but for some people its dificult to leave the past. believe me i tried but i cant...
ok bye
dan991987 4 years ago
nice video my friend Macedonia is Greek
slav's go home
agispaok 4 years ago
MACEDONIA IS GREECE
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Macedonia is Greece ONLY
ath4ever 4 years ago
Macedonia is Greek. Macedonian symbols are Greek. Fyrom is a nation built on a lie because of a politician named tito... if you have a problem with the poloitics of the balkans you should look into the communist who struggled to find an identity for a group of people who have none. Greece was the wrong country to try to steal from. Maybe you should have tried to steal from albanians or bulgarians.
MrSeannie 4 years ago
Good point, MrSeannie.
ath4ever 4 years ago
If not for politicians of fyrom, now there would not be such a claim on a hellenic name as Macedonia.
ath4ever 4 years ago
it was a respond for jpod07, not u. sorry for confusing u
paparidis1 4 years ago
entaksei, min anysiheis..
ath4ever 4 years ago
jPod07, you live far away that's why you think like this. Of course, it's better this way you don't see hate. But know this. The state Fyrom geographically can be considered as an extention of Macedonia which starts from Greece. The only difference is that the people living there are not Greeks. Ancient Macedonians were. There were no Slavs in the area that time period. Of course, keep on thinking this way and remember, Greeks are not the enemy.
ath4ever 4 years ago
politics are in the nature of human race. democracy and voting is blessing. I dont like the way democracy works these days(as said, democracy its not the best regime its just the less bad) but yet again i have the power of voting and i'm satisfied with that. If you dont care about politics is like saying that you dont feel a part of the community. Its your choice for sure, but this ignorance and the fact that people are not concerned about politics brought us at this dead-end.
paparidis1 4 years ago
No, I didn't exactly say that. I also have the right of voting and I'm happy about it. I just wanted to tell iPod07 that the "Macedonian Issue" is a product from politicians of the neighboring state. That's why I told him (or her) "guess who started it".
ath4ever 4 years ago
FabienneChantelle, nice point.
ath4ever 4 years ago
I know the whole conflict I have a Macedonian background. I don't care about the history between Macedonia and Greece. I have a lot of Greek friends and we're all best friends. We don't care. Just stop trying to do something that will never change. Be the smart ones and just let it be.
jPod07 4 years ago
Let it be? ok i come to your house i claim your wife as mine, your kid and your surname too. All you've done i claim it as mine. so, would you let it be? i guess you wouldnt
paparidis1 4 years ago
And jPod07 sorry for correcting u but u have a Vardarskian background i suppose. Not a macedonian-hence hellenic- backgound. There is no such thing as history between Macedonia and Greece. Macedonia as a term, as history and not as you mistakenly think we are reffering to your country, is one with Greece, in fact, IS GREECE
paparidis1 4 years ago
as I said I don't care. I still claim it as Macedonia. I don't care what anyone says. I just don't care about the whole conflict. It's pointless. Thats what I hate about europe! all the politics!
jPod07 4 years ago
iPod07, as far as politics, you are right. Politics sucks. But don't blame Europe. It was not Europe who gave your politicians the idea of claiming a name that does not belond to you. Nobody likes this conflict between our countries but guess who started it.
ath4ever 4 years ago
and the other side continued it. politics suck. thats why I don't want to live in maco or greece. both nice countries (no matter what you say) but still. I think its wrong... we should just all be friends...
jPod07 4 years ago
FabienneChantelle...Thanks for your support!!The truth will shine in the end!!Noone has the right to steal another nation's history,heroes,names,lands!!
Macedonia was is and will be forever HELLENIC!!
philip11901 4 years ago
wow I can tell these people have no life. stop living in the past. welcome to 2007. get over it.
jPod07 4 years ago
thief...
zavarakatranemias 4 years ago
I'm not cheap to steal stuff ;) get your facts right. I do have money :)
jPod07 4 years ago
Το εστειλα.Πρεπει να ημαστε ενωμενοι σε αυτα.
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Έχει μπει ο εφιάλτης FoM σ΄το άλλο forum και άρχισε πάλι τις κακίες του
ath4ever 4 years ago
To ιδιο κ αυτο που εγινε στην Θεσσαλονικη.Βασιλη θα σου στειλω σε pm που υπογραφουμε.
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Απλώς το λέω γιατί εδώ δεν είναι Μακεδονία αλλά το συλλαλητήριο ήταν τόσο δυναμικό όσο το δικό σας. Στείλου το.
ath4ever 4 years ago
to pira kai to upegrapsa gianni euxaristo kai mpravo sou.
vasilisl 4 years ago
Ετσι μπραβο!!!Οντως θα ηταν ιδανικο Ελενακι.
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Ξέρεις κάποτε είχε γίνει συλαλλητήριο στην Αθήνα. Ήμουν μικρή. Είχα πάει με τους δικούς μου. 4,5 εκ. άνθρωποι ζουν στην πρωτεύουσα. Ούτε η ΝΔ ούτε το ΠΑΣΟΚ προεκλογικά δεν μάζεψαν ποτέ τόσο κόσμο. Εγώ ήμουν στο Σύνταγμα. Είμασταν ο ένας πάνω στον άλλον. Αξέχαστο.
ath4ever 4 years ago
Όσο για το συλλαλητηριο προς το παρων διοργανωνεται στην Θεσσαλονικη γι'αυτο το ειπα,πιθανως κ γιατι εδω ειναι η Μακεδονια κ καλως ή κακως οι ανθρωποι εδω ειναι πιο ευαισθητοποιημενοι!!Στοχος ειναι 4 εκ υπογραφες,εμπρος ολοι υπογραψτε παιδια!!
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
που υπογραφουμε?
vasilisl 4 years ago
βεβαια πρεπει κ η ελληνικη κυβερνηση να μην αδρανει...
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
το κειμενο που ειχα βαλει η συγκεκριμενη εκθεση(γιατι εκθεση ειναι)περιεχει κ 2 θετικα σημεια για μας που αφορουν κ την ενταξη των Σκοπιων στο ΝΑΤΟ κ Ε.Ε!!
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Ελενα ναι το πιστευω αυτο που ειπα,η εξελιξη με τα διαβατηρια ηταν αρνητικη αλλα δεν εχει καμια σχεση,αν πας στο φορουμ το αλλο κ δεις
GiannisTZ 4 years ago
Γιάννη, το ξέρεις αυτό εύχομαι. Μακάρι να έχουμε ελπίδες. Γιάννη μου, και στη Θεσσαλονίκη και στην Αθήνα. θα ήταν ιδανικό, φαντάζεσαι;;; Όλοι θα υπογράψουμε.....για την Μακεδονία ΜΑΣ
ath4ever 4 years ago
Since u want to be macedonian u have to start acting like one, Learn Greek respect motherland Greece and come unite with the rest of Greeks.MEGAS ALEXANDROS WAS PROUD TO BE GREEK, HE SAID HE IS GREEK [HELLINAS] & HE LOVED MOTHERLAND GREECE AND SPREAD HIS LANGUAGE HIS GREEK CIVILIZATION TO ALL EMPIRE,So stop hating the Greeks
AustinMarina 4 years ago
so tell me slavic macedonian-wannabies, greeks in macedonia survived the roman empire, peaked in byztantine, survived the ottoman and still outnumbered the slavic migration of macedonia. How come the greeks in macedonia never spoke the bulgarian dialect u speak? or have bulgarian names? How come they spoke the same language as their macedonian fathers? So tell me, how the fuck you are able to call urselves macedonian?
vasilisl 4 years ago
According to a Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha in 1904, in areas of Macedonia lived:
Vilaet of Thessalonica:
Greeks 373.227
Bulgarians 207.317
Vilaet of Monastir (Bitola):
Greeks: 261.281
Bulgarians: 178.412
Santzak of Skopje:
Greeks: 13.452
Bulgarians: 172.735
vasilisl 4 years ago