Oprah Winfrey - what if you never heard of Jesus?

[sonnycheeba84]

Oprah ask what if you never heard of Jesus? I say Eventually everyone will.

[alangname]

@Elipugantengbakla the best example of troll. DONT FEED TROLLS PEOPLE!

[alangname]

i think this answers the most famous question of some atheists who think they already know everything and that they have this kind authority to give religion a time to speak what it is, and if they dont want to listen, they just say its a waste of time and those who speak about it are troll. "What if you dont know the bible are? you gonna go to hell?"

[bdyan53]

No one answers any questions...they side skirt the questions and comments and just repeat their indoctrinated mantras...it is amazing you all regurgitate the same ans over and over w/o even thinking about the questions. Even in this video Oprah asked about those who have not heard about Jesus..rather than ans the ques. she saids,"Jesus will not return till...". Again it proves you all have lost the ability to think and reason...just say your scripted mantras.

[sonnycheeba84]

Like the woman in the auduence said Jesus will not return until the gospel is preached in the 4 corners of this world so there is only one way and thats through Lord Jesus Christ!

[bdyan53]

Yet...you call us disillusioned? Forgiveness is only required when someone is hurt or damaged. You cannot hurt or damage God. He has no needs…he is all things. He has no need or wants, He requires nothing to be “happy” He does not need for you to fear Him,. He does not love us for what we do for Him..He loves us because we simply are. His love is a DECISION…not a REACTION…it is unconditional (without condition) I do not need to earn what I already have.

[sonnycheeba84]

@bdyan53 besides believing that Jesus is the Son of God and he died on the cross for humanity's sins you have to repent for your sins as well

[bdyan53]

cont Sorry look up "horus and Jesus"....There is no historical documentation of the person Jesus, the 12 disciples, Moses and the Garden of Gethsemane. Don't you think the Apostle Paul would have visited Calvary? The Garden..the tomb of Jesus? There is no description of Jesus although his exact deeds and words are recorded. No christian coins printed from that period. We aren't even sure who wrote parts of the bible. 12 disciples=12 signs of the zodiac..you need to study the history.

[bdyan53]

If God wanted us to be saved ...why create Adam and Eve...put in a tree of knowledge and then sabatoge it by allowing a wise serpent to trick them? If it weren't for this episode there would be no sin and the need for Jesus would be null and void. If evolution is true and the earth is more than 6000 yrs old..then this episode didn't happen the bible is mostly myths. Search "krishna and Jesus" "osirus and Jesus" "adima & heva(hindu)"...same stories thousands of yrs before the bible. wake up!

[ZeeeFly]

Who is paying you ELI SORIANO?

[ShinnoHitoki000]

is he accepting payment? or you just can't counter his side using the bible regarding this issue. you saw the verses, right? even those who are not christian will be saved as long as they remain good to their fellowmen, FOR GOD WROTE LAWS IN EVERYONE'S HEART. you will be judged by your conscience.

[ZeeeFly]

Illuminati!

[monicamischief]

I can't believe that anyone would believe that a compassionate and truly GOOD person would go to hell simply for never hearing about Jesus.

See, in the Bible, it says that God is love. If God is love, he will NOT send someone to hell for something that is BEYOND THEIR CONTROL! Do you honestly think those in remote villages, those who are mentally retarded, those who die as babies will GO TO HELL? If you believe that, you are truly a monster.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

go bro. eli! if only he were there with oprah, man it would be epic!

[edcanada69]

What about the babies who died at birth?

[ShinnoHitoki000]

eli soriano is correct, the lady is not being taught well by her religious leader. the verses mentioned be soriano were not written on the bible for nothing, right?

[Guurkhali]

It really a righteous disgrace and a shame to hear such blasphemous words from a minister of God that you are denying Jesus is the only way.. So Jn 14:6 and Jn 3:3 are completely false???...Actually its you dear Brother Eli, who is mislead...Jesus and only Jesus is the way to heaven, beside him there is no other way...May God have mercy on you for misleading others and to Oprah too..And the lady stood up for Jesus is absolutely right, God bless you lady..

[ShinnoHitoki000]

is he denying? no, he's not. not all people can and will hear the word of God. but if those dudes managed to follow what is good, of course God will save us. john 14:6 and 3:3 are for those who heard the gospel. you cannot make a bipedal walk on fours as well as make a quadrupedal walk on twos right? if you're stand is about "those who didn't hear jesus" will go to hell, well you're in a big trouble.

[monicamischief]

@Guurkhali So you honestly think that a great person who has never heard of jesus is going to go to hell? Even if this wonderful person worshipped a local god (the only god they knew) every day? This lovely, kind, caring person is going to hell simply because they did not know of jesus? What about those who die as babies? According to you, they are going to hell, too. If your god is this cruel, I'd rather go to hell.

[krazyrich]

Yes, Jesus says that there will be people who he invites into Heaven who didn't know that it was him they were serving when they were showing compassion to their fellow men.

But, the fact remains that it was Jesus who invites these people in. And, as far as Oprah is concerned, she doesn't have the excuse that she's never heard of Jesus. She knows better.

And Jesus also told us to evangelize the gospel to the four corners of the world. Is Oprah doing this? With all of her resources, is she?

[ShinnoHitoki000]

that's the whole idea. the bible acknowledge cases like that of oprah's. four corners of the earth is not an excuse. what about the tribes and civilizations in which the bible didn't reach? are they all going to be punished in hell?

[krazyrich]

Only God will know how to judge their hearts. Which is true for all of us.

But as the Lord says, "My people perish for lack of knowledge." It is our responsibility, especially with all of the resources we have today, to make sure the gospel is preached everywhere.

It's humbles me and convicts me at the same time.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

but what about the inaccessible places? anyway, the dude talking in this vid made his point: no matter what belief you have, as long as you are a good person, God has his ways to save that person.

[monicamischief]

@krazyrich, you do realize that it is not possible to achieve this goal, do you not? There ARE many people who WILL die without hearing the word of god.

[krazyrich]

@monicamischief - You seem to be saying two different things here. Yes, I imagine there are people now who will die without hearing the Word. That is precisely why we are to evangelize the world. It is a challene, but we are supposed to try to meet it.

As for whether that goal will eventually be accomplished, of course it will. And even if we don't get to everybody, everyone will know it when Christ returns.

[monicamischief]

@krazyrich I am not saying two different things. O___o

And I think you missed the point. It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to get the word out to every single person in this world. You CAN'T DO IT. You get that, right? There WILL be people that die without hearing of god.

Are you saying those people will go to hell? You seem to be avoiding this issue. What if they die before Christ returns? Will they go to hell? Seems like you can't bring yourself to say yes, so you are avoiding the question.

[krazyrich]

@monicamischief - First of all, Christians are called to evangelize the gospel to all of the world. The world ultimately will be evangelized, and that is when Christ will return. And yes, it seems impossible and there will be those who die without hearing the Word before that day comes. But we are still supposed to do it.

As for those who die without hearing the Word, - cont'd in pt. 2

[krazyrich]

@monicamischief - As for those who die without hearing the Word, Christ will be judging me along with these people, and it is not my place to decide whether any individual will go to hell or not. That decision is Jesus Christ's, and His alone. However, like I said before, Christ specified that he will be inviting people into heaven who did not know they were serving Him while living a life of compassion. Perhaps this also includes compassionate people who never heard the Gospel. His call.

[tonesavage]

@monicamischief No matter how good any individual is, they are still a sinner. You ever broken 1 of the 10 commandments? If so, you can't enter into God's presents. Only accepting Jesus Christ will get you in to heaven. Scripture says our best works are still like filthy rags to Him. That's how righteous our God is, and He gave His only Son to make a way for us all. Matthew 24:12-14, Says all we hear the gospel before the end. Read the chp 24 to at least try and sound knowledgeable of the Bible.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

but what about those mentally retarded and people living in the ancient days where the bible is not present? are they all going to hell? you heard the verses, God will judge those "exceptions" by their conscience. and where can you find the verse where it says that even our best works are still rags to him? where is that?

[tonesavage]

@ShinnoHitoki000 Those r 2 of the best questions I've ever been asked. In 2 Samuel 12:21-23, King David explains he fasted and wept while his son was alive because he thought God might spare his son's life. But when his son died he stopped because he knew he would goto him oneday. All through scripture we're told God gives us understanding about Him, and that we either reject Him or accept Him. I think those who can't do either are very safe. The other reference u want is Isaiah 64:6. God bless!

[ShinnoHitoki000]

we have no problem about the dudes who heard the gospel. the problem is those who DIDN'T, mainly because of their sickness and their lifestyle and yet they are still good and compassionate to their fellow. that's what the verses eli soriano read is talking about; even if you didn't hear the gospel, you can still be saved based on what laws God wrote in your heart, you will be judged by your conscience. action speak louder the words, man. God bless too.

[tonesavage]

@ShinnoHitoki000 I'm sorry but that is absolutely wrong. You're taking verses totally out of context. The old testament laws and rituals were intended for the Jews. God's laws were written on the hearts of the Jewish people, not everybody else. They only "Path" to heaven is accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Only then are we grafted in as part of God's people. The only part in the Bible applicable to unbelievers is all are sinners, only Christ can save u, and Hell. That's all bro...

[ShinnoHitoki000]

oh yeah? let's read it: Romans 2:12-15 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. continue>

[ShinnoHitoki000]

continue> (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

is Romans 2:12-15 a part of the old testament or new testament to tell me that this verse is only for the Jews?

[tonesavage]

@ShinnoHitoki000 1) Regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David, and who through the Spirit of holiness was declared with power to be the Son of God by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord. Through him and for his name's sake, we received grace and apostleship to call people from among all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith. Ur not part of the family without Christ. Read the entire chapter, not just the parts u like.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

you're kidding. and you forgot Romans 2:11 "For God does not show favoritism", and where's your "God's laws were written on the hearts of the JEWISH people " in the verse? is Roman chapter 2 a part of the Old Testament for you to claim that God's laws was written ONLY in the hearts of the JEWS?

[tonesavage]

@ShinnoHitoki000 You're not preaching the truth because ur taking bits and pieces and putting them together to form a lie. You'll lead people to Hell telling them they don't need Jesus. Romans 1:7, To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ. <--See that Lord Jesus Christ part? Romans is for believers in Christ, not you right now. It can be if you repent and confess Christ as your Lord and Savior though.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

bits? you forgot Romans 2:11-16. you said that God put the law into the hearts of the Jews, and the Christians only need to believe in Jesus to be saved. Romans 2:11-16 said that God put law in our hearts IF THE BIBLE DIDN'T REACH CERTAIN PLACES. and romans 2:11-16 is a part of the new testament, so where's your "God's laws were written on the hearts of the Jewish people, not everybody else"? don't tell me that Romans 2:11-16 is a part of the old testament?

[tonesavage]

@ShinnoHitoki000 From what I'm able to understand of these verses, Paul is only saying that all people are given a conscience to understand right from wrong. You can zero in on "written on the hearts" but that's not a free pass to sin, and it's not going to get anyone in to heaven. You ever walked up to a little 8 yr old girl and punched her in the face for sticking out her tongue? Of course not, you know that would be wrong. These verses are only telling u how u know punching her is wrong.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

that's the whole thing. God gave us the understanding to know right from wrong. i agree that Jesus is the way the truth and the life; but just in case that the bible didn't and has not given a chance to reach an individual, God will judge that person by his conscience. God doesn't practice favoritism but justice and open mindedness; he wants everyone to be saved.

[tonesavage]

@monicamischief So far your comments have only proven your ignorance. Sorry dear, but after reading all your comments over the last hour I know for certain you've never picked up the Bible in your life. All your questions about babies, hell, heaven, endtimes...all those subjects you question about are answered in the vary book you're dodging. Unless you know what God's word says, you'll always be blind to the truth like the millions before you. Lower ur wall and at least see the God's word says.

[ShinnoHitoki000]

well, are all dude willing to hear jesus? what about the mentally reterded? are they going to perish in hell?

[samsonsamson16]

nice