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  • Song!?

  • Cyma is known for making the best AKs so all you Marui expensive taste airsofters should re-consider your purchase

  • I have a cyma ak74, and its way better than Tokyo Marui

  • In finland it's illegal to own guns and is it fun to shoot targets at the range. But with airsoft guns you can shoot other people with them.

  • Still stand by my original comment of AIRSOFT BEING FOR GAY PANSIES

  • @ericcr You're calling the US military "gay pansies?"

  • @sockschappercat do you work with any service members?

  • @ericcr No, I just happen to know that they are using airsoft for training purposes. As stated in this article:

    army. mil/article/25860/

  • @sockschappercat youre a fucking troll. you know how I know? If you read below, you will see I openly admitted that I WAS JUST BUSTING BALLS!1 Dont get your pussy all chafed.

  • @ericcr I apologise, I didn't bother to read any of your other comments, I just went straight into defensive mode. Anyway, good work with the trollbaiting.

  • @sockschappercat hahaha, thanks dude! i like that, troll baiting.

  • @sockschappercat And guess what else? I have CONDUCTED and PARTICIPATED in PROFESSIONAL airsoft training in a law enforcement capacity, so blow your news article out your ass.

  • @sockschappercat what if he is?

  • Why's everone pooping their pants CYMA makes not desent but great guns.

  • lol so true

  • @ericcr So true

  • surprisingly cyma makes some amazing aks for under 200 bucks seriously... they last long and perform nicely. the shim jobs suck nuts but over all they are best for the price.

  • @LBVentertainment if your spending 200 bucks on a toy gun, you can have a real one for not too much more! GAY!!!

  • @ericcr true i actually own a glock 18 and an m4 real steel but i can't shoot at people with it, airsoft is just fun!

  • @jkcrespo91 very logical!! airsoft is fun im sure. i used to play paintball as a teenager, so i cant imagine airsoft being much less fun.

  • @ericcr then whyd you call it gay

  • hell I was using a Cyma Ak-74 today and it was awesome it shot accuarately up to about 150 feet with heavy wind and i shot 2 people in the dark with no visibility

  • it this ak had all its features but was gas, it would usually be priced around $500

  • is the cyma made from stamped steel and abs plastic?

  • either way im getting an ak

    but which one?

    im going to have a war in the woods in november,

  • I have one of these. A nice toy, shoots holes in my backyard shacks tin roof.

  • Which CYMA AK is this? because they make full metal, 350+ FPS ones for about $150-$200, and they make shitty $30 walmart ones that are all plastic and shoot about 20 feet at 200 FPS. And for all the people bitching about Marui's FPS being too low, FPS is not everything. Chinese clone gearboxes have a tendency to be unreliable, but their FPS is usually higher than Japanese gunss because of a FPS limiting law in Japan.

  • Id take CYMA just for the fact that it cost over half less then marui counterpart. and since the day i bought mine 2 years ago ive had no problem what so ever, except for the battery which was shit, but with new battery,charger and couple of midcaps its still lot less then marui.

  • its da mag

  • Cyma AKs are budget guns, full metal and wood with decent internals TM will give you good quality plastic externals that will NEVER break basically, and the internals will last forever! Just do not put a spring that will shoot 400+ fps in a TM without reinforcing the GB, it will break quickly, TMs are designed to their low power to be extremely accurate, and are compatible with nearly every part out there on the market TM is the best, after upgrades, but also, what gun doesnt need upgrades?

  • Song? I remember this song from somewhere...

  • Nseal u are a tard!!!! The rate if fire is in NO wu affected by how much u pull the trigger back!!! If it's pulled back enuf to fire it's givin it it's all you noob CYMAs are worse than TM my friend has a tM p90 360 fps and it is Hellas good and whoever said the hop up sucks is a dumbfuck as well.. There battery powered g18 which shoots like 240 fps can go more than 100 ft

  • To all who are making claims of "good" and "bad" brands. Good and bad are just words. CYMA has recently made great improvements in the quality of their products. They are generally cheaper than high-end manufactures, and make excellent starter guns. I would say that an inexpensive gun that allows new players, or those without loads of cash to blow, access to airsoft is indeed quite "good." Hell, I own a CA, a TM, and a G&G, and I just picked up a CYMA AKM as my fourth AEG. I love it.

  • @HMK612 ...helll ya. a guy who knows what hes talking about

  • Tokyo Marui Guns Better Than Cyma

    and what name of this guns and a model?

    Tokyo Marui AK 47 Specnaz ?

    Cyma 031 ?

  • How much FPS/Joule is the CYMA AK 47 ?

    thx

  • 1,3 joule

  • i personally think that tm are better because there compatible with almost anything i got a TM AK47 and upgraded with classic army, stytema, G&P,G&G and king arms parts and the gun now shoots like 480fps and fire 1200 rounds per minute. But the CYMA has barely any other upgradable parts unless you get them custom made which could cost double the amount!

  • @ZombieMowrify CYMA Is entirely based on TM so all parts would go onto it..

  • In all honesty, I must say that the CYMA AK47 CM028+ is better then the Tokyo Marui, the first thing I noticed, is the Metal Bushings used in the CYMA's and the Plastic Nylon Bushings in the TM's. Also, the reason that the CYMA was firing slower, was because , CYMA's used heavier spring, usually M120's and above, while Tokyo Marui's used M85-M90 springs. A lighter spring means a faster firing rate, I took out the M120 spring in my CYMA, and to be honest, it shoots faster then the Tokyo Marui.

  • @AzNDuM cyma's arent better then marui's.. theres a reason they cost more,

    if you strip them down the marui is made from a lot higher quality parts, my m4 has lasted me about 4 years and is still going strong. and anyway cyma's bodys are made from pot metal whic is cheap and isnt nice, a tm ak with a nice wood kit and metal body, and maybe a new spring and you've got the best ak on the market.

  • @NeWsOuNdRaVe

    the reason they cost more, is because they are trademarked by kalashnikov, and because they are selling the brand name. I have compared the internals to eachother

  • @AzNDuM and you really know what your lookin for internally?

    dnt get me wrong cyma's are great for the price, ( i have one) but tm internals are still better.

  • @NeWsOuNdRaVe Wrong, wrong, wrong

    CYMA AK47 is made of steel down to the magazine, real wood stock and foregrip out of the box. No pot metal.

  • @Matty0Gaming no its made from pot metal, not stampes steel,, thats why it doesn't cost more then £150 ish

  • @NeWsOuNdRaVe Wroooong

  • @NeWsOuNdRaVe actually your both right the lower end cyma guns are pot metal and steel while the higher end cymas are all stamped steel

  • i guess cyma wins. TM makes plastic low 280 fps guns that go like 20 ft. and charge like if the're selling a good fps full metal aeg with great range

  • dude what? TM makes the BEST hop up units on the market. a stock tm gun will outrange almost any gun. The TM M14 is known for having the longest range of any airsoft gun made. They have low fps because there are limits imposed upon their manufacturing in Japan

  • it sounds like you made a tm and slowed it down and said it was a cyma. Im sorry I had a tm and it went like 5 ft. with 280 fps and it cost like 300$. Had a Cyma and it went about 150ft lol (serious) with 400fps and it cost 200$ plus it was blowback. GO CYMA

  • dont know why ppl getting marui ak...

    marui ak is 250€~, cyma ak47 is 95€ at least here in Spain. ($ =1.47€ atm) well, someone is gonna tell me cyma's will be crashed sooner, dont know why if I take care of it and im not unlucky with the inside parts.

  • This is a shoutout to the gay queer that thought he could compare a fuckin pistol to an aeg. Harman0xd seriously the glock 19 is a fuckin pistol and this is about aegs dumb fuck. The ak47 is the most popular firearm yeah it might not be the best airsoft gun but in real life the ak whoops any guns ass pistol or rifle. Now u wanna really argue I'll say that the glock 18c kicks more dirty ass than a pussy semi auto flock 19

  • in real life the AK does not whoop every guns ass, It has bad recoil and its inaccurate. The only thing that it "whoops ass in" is it dosent jam and it costs the least to make. I know i have fired a Romanian AK many times.

  • Finally someone I can agree with here...

  • Agreed, they are excellent in close to mid range but above 200 yards it becomes less effective. Guns that are starting to whoop ass are these with the Bullpup design such as a Famas or the Tavor really excellent and futuristic design :)

  • a real ak47 has been proved to be accurate up to a 1000 yards the videos on youtube for proof do yor reserch pls before making stupid clamis

  • i think you mean 1000 ft. it wouldnt be possible for the rifle to fire that far because the AK's design is to yaw. Yawing would throw the trajectory off and make it near impossible to shoot much further than 400 yards (not 200 my bad ;))

    ..... also before you get all pissed off because my information is more accurate and has supporting evidence learn to spell its not "clamis" its "claims" anyways take it easy

  • sorry blackhawk i miss read wat info i have there is a video of a ak 103 hitting targets at 1000 yards and its use the same round the 7.62x39mm and is the same round and same gun as the ak47 but just updated look at this video for amazment type this and you will see

    AK-103 hitting target at 1000yrds

    thats proof that it can

  • haha all good man and ya im checkin it out right now

  • yep I like the L85A1 or the AUG, and there the P90 but that guns gay lol

  • CYMA AL DA WAY...

  • cyma 4eva

  • CYMA made OWNAGE !!!!! and TAKE CARE OF YOUR RIFLES !!!!!!!!

  • Marui is way too overrated, cyma is at least as good

  • Marui for life!

  • cyma win

  • ahahahah yes! lol

  • cyma vs real sword vs tokyo marui ak 47s is what i want to see

  • look at this dumbass he didnt even wind the mag all d way.....

  • cyma!

  • I've got Ak47 witch CYMA model P.1093s Spring model.CYMA-best of the best

  • TAKE CARE OF YOUR RIFLES!!!!

  • I got a cyma ak47 (CMo42-A) it never jams that guy acually hates cyma hehe

  • stupid video, the reason the CYMA 'jammed' was because you didn't wind the mag all the way

  • hahahaha i have a cybergun ak 47 and its so much quieter than both of those

  • i dont know about that

  • Is the CM028 better than a Tokyo Marui?

  • for the price

  • I thinki it isn't Ak47 TM vs Ak47 CYMA but TM magazin for AK vs CYMA Magazine for AK:)

  • ive owned both.ill say this,i sold my marui to buy 2 more cymas. l.o.l. if you have to spend alot to feel supperior, go ahead. but in a skirmish my cyma will outclass your expensive marui any day.nothing wrong with a marui mind you, its just wayyyyyyy over priced for what it realy is.

  • i dont know about you guys, but i only trust CYMA with my airsoft AK's. As for my real ones, lets just say i know a guy....

  • a glock doesnt really have the same power as an assault rifle buddy

  • Maybe it's an older version of the Cyma AK47.

    Now they make really better guns than some year ago.

    I have a Cyma AK47, is full metal, real wood and i have never had a problem, while i have seen some Marui in my group having some trouble.

    Just luck? Dont think so...

  • Same, i got CM042 and its cheaper than marui AK-47 and its very beter. And marui AK-47 isnt metal and wood its just plastic but CYMA AK-47's are now almost all of them are metal and wood.

  • for everybody out there who is saying cyma is shit, shut the fuck up. for it's price cyma is good

  • @midgetandgaint

    its shit

  • @midgetandgaint tokyo marui is fucking good i´ve got mine about 3 years and the weapon looks and shoots like at her first day i´ve nev3r had any problems with her

  • @midgetandgaint their ak line is better than tm even

  • @midgetandgaint yes ur right cyma is the shit for the price but do u know that u can get a tm ak 47 used for the same price im not trying to be an ass or anything im just saying that sometime u can get better for the same price if u can wait a little time

  • please someone tell me what the name of this song is. its not the one of goran bregovic, its a different version... please tell me the name of it and maybe a link also please :(

  • cyma is for medium people who dont have alot of money

  • tokyo marui FTW

  • you're right, i over-reacted too but, that were some though word you came out with. I know what you mean, i've anothor opinion than many people. I've commented it on other videos, and pissed of many guys.

  • Totally biased video... on semi auto he is simply squeezing the trigger on the cyma slower, and on auto you can tell by the sound that the gun is still shooting bbs and theres no need to shake it....oh and also TM mags fit in the cyma so its only the high-cap mag thats the problem..

  • song is awesome! its serbian i think! anyone know the name?

  • The song's called kalascnikov, like the gun is the vid.

  • what is the artist name? is it goran..?

    could you give me a link else?

    thanks in advance

  • ok so you broke it... good job. anyhow for 3x the price you should get something, I guess I could just buy 2 CYMAs, auto wind drum mags and just dual wield them lol

  • on the cyma, you should have crank the mag more.

  • dimitri02 maybe brits can't spell ass corectly, but at least they are not americans like you. Americans (except the black ones) are either european criminals, who were so retarded that the got sent away to america, or poor europeans.

  • well jus so happens that this one guy got mad at me for stating my opinion. he's british. sorry if i offended you i just hate it when people cant take someone elses opinion. you know what i mean?

  • well obviously the tokyo marui would be better because its like $100 dollars more.

  • that is so very much not true(ask anyone just cuz something is more exspensive doesnt not mean its better) he probaly has the cm.028 he should get the latest version the cm.036(430 fps) wich almost nothing to do with the rate of fire

  • "well obviously the tokyo marui would be better because its like $100 dollars more."

    Life doesn't work like that. Period. It's called "being ripped off".

    Everything is basically the same apart from some minor internal differences. Only major difference is a 100% mark-up TM puts on their guns that just isnt justified. Explain how China makes these things for around half the price of a TM gun and makes profit on top of it & makes better internals? Its called greed, welcome 2 the human race.

  • Wow, this IS such biased bullshit!

  • you marui fans I bet i could take my cyma and beat all of you with it. The new cyma is a best. Mine came feeding perfect and everything. I now ahve 6.03 and lipoly in it. Owns everyone

  • Lol yeah for the price of a tm ak you can get a metal/wood ak and get some great internal upgrades and u will still save some money maybe for a scope mount and add some money to the scope itself it totaly owns

  • this video just proved that Tokyo Marui is better than Cyma. Although the fps isnt that great, get it upgraded. Tokyo Marui has better internals and is built very well than most airsoft guns. TOKYO MARUI IS TOP OF THE LINE BRAND, CYMA IS CLONES!!!!

  • TM better than CYMA - no they're not. CYMAs have better internals as they have steel gears and polycarbonate parts. Try gutting and comparing the guns before you make an assumption based on nothing more than hearsay. Top of the line? Pffft mediocre at best. CYMA and other so called clone brands are way out in front of TM now.

  • CYMA BETTER? then explain why the CYMA AK-47 was fucking up? better internals my ass! this video goes completely against what you said. i did compare the guns. i held them, i asked experts about them. CYMA is all clones off from other companies such as Tokyo Marui. you're right, CYMA may be ahead in price wise. other than that, they SUCK compared to TM.

  • Yes better internals - deal with it. I couldn't care less what the video shows. Its biased bullshit. You need to do more than hold them and ask idiots that haven't been in airsoft for 5 minutes: You need to buy them, open them up and fucking compare them! Companies like CYMA are getting ahead of TM because they actually improve their designs and materials. CYMA is not only ahead on price but on quality of their guns, both internal and external. TM internals are cheap shit.

  • If you knew something about airsoft I wouldnt need to tell you this. I stopped buying overpriced shit from TM years ago because I saw the potential of Chinese brands. Dont be another TM loyalist n00b, go out get your hands dirty and do some fucking research! I dont give two shits about your opinion, I have been in airsoft long enough to know a good gun when I see it . TM a top-of-the-line brand my arse, if they could build a gun that doesnt strip its gears they might just be competent.

  • pfft ok ur such in denial. the video just showed that the CYMA WAS FUCKING UP!!! holding the gun for five minutes does depend on the internals of the gun. if you cant even use it for one magazine without it fucking up then u got urself some clone shit. btw dont forget that CYMA is clones from Tokyo Marui and others so you cant say that TM suks! if you didnt give 2 SHITS about my opinion then why did u even bother to reply back to me u fucking idiot! i swear if i ever saw i would fuckin lick you!

  • You are such a fucking derelict. Listen, or rather read dumb arse, Im not in denial of anything. From the sounds of it I have way more experience at airsoft than you do. So one video on youtube means theyre all rubbish? Are you retarded or something? Wait, dont answer that: its obvious. And no I dont give two shits about your stupid arse opinion. I care that someone might read it and think DA TM AM GOOD based on the shit youve typed.

  • Youd lick me? Wow a retard acting tough over youtube. Cliché anyone? P.S. DIE! Have a nice day fucko! :-)

  • you know what you're the very one who stared this shit! no point of arguing because i dont talk to fuckin dumbass brits like you! cant even spell ASS correctly. yeah i would fuckin beat your ass, make you bleed your own red british blood you fuckin red coat! dont even bother to reply back to me cuz im not going to read it so dont waste your time. have a nice day

  • your a loser.. stop freaking out onlne it makes you sound like a pussy... oh and btw no shit the cyma didnt shhot long it had a stock wind-mag dumbass.

  • yeah ok sum little fuck fuck decides to take sides. fine with me i never started it the other guy was getting all pistoff at me for stating my opinion. yes i know it had a wind mag but the bb's couldnt feed correctly cmon man. read my first comment and see Z2020fish get mad at me

  • You mean YOU get mad at ME... I give an opposing opinion and you explode at me. How about reading what you wrote. Jesus fucking Christ...

  • if cyma is so good tell me why people dont consider them as "top of the line"? and why are tm's known to last for years? and cyma's for months?

  • exactly..tm last way longer than cyma. i've stated my opinions around and soo many ppl got mad at me saying tm is shitty and cyma is better...fuckin dumbasses by shit pot metal. china gets all their ideas from japan. TM is top of the line!

  • yeah i know cymas have stronger springs...big deal the gun lasts 1 year tops and average life of an upgraded tm with only a upgraded spring is around 2-4 years wtf you clone fags and who the fuck are the cyma's, jg's, and echo 1's clones of? thats right...TOKYO MARUI wow your all dumbfucks..tm ftw

  • yupz. do u have a tm Ak-47?

  • is this collin? ive used enough to tell the difference my friend has an upgraded one so i use that a lot and i have used utg's,cyma's,jg's and they all fall short of marui

  • what?!? how do u know my name? who dis?

  • im brandon this is my gay account me and my friend share kind of

  • haha wat a coincidence. these cyma fans clearly dont know what top quality is.

  • uhhh......... I can go faster on semi than that guy W/ my cm036. he must have been using the 028 cuz of the mag problems.

  • great. many people say this is biased bullshit because they're in denial. they cannot face that tm is better than cyma. but im pretty sure your cyma ak is good though.

  • just because it is a clone doesnt mean its as good or better... you just missed the point by a mile.

  • what do you mean? im not understanding

  • TM ak lasted my friend a year until he stripped the gears and the folding stock broke off, there not always made the best, but CYMA is the best AK for the price.

  • @RapManDeliverin I bet your friend never even made an effort to take care of his gun let alone at least lube the gun with silicon oil.....TM makes one of the most reliable airsoft guns in the market. Your friend should've known that it is illegal to manufacture metal airsoft guns with over 1 joule of energy per second. He could've bought aftermarket parts and all that. Tokyo Marui internals outlast most others. The range is amazing as well on a stock TM.

  • @xTomcatsForeverVF84x

    But keep in mind the tokyo marui sector AND spur gear are made out of straight pot metal, where as the CYMA's gears are full steel. Thats why the gears were stripped. The CYMA simply has some better parts to it than the TM.

  • @RapManDeliverin Airsoft guns aren't made for long automatic fire, none are. I haven't stripped any gears since I got mine three years ago, I swear. That's a long time, I probably have to switch it soon. I still hear CYMA guns breaking down, metal parts it may have but who can explain why the keep breaking?

  • @xTomcatsForeverVF84x ...have you used a cyma.....cuz the cm050 romanian kicks ass...check it out

  • @SKATEitDEAD Yes, I've used a CYMA. I took great care of it just like my other guns.....it just had to break down.

  • I hate that loading problem with cyma aks. It happens all the time for my spring AK-47.

  • /F - ne guyz wanna chat? im bored and horny! K

  • GREAT!! MARUI IS THE BEST

  • i ordered the american one and it didnt even shoot-.-

  • how win

  • NOOB

  • shqiptar?

  • Forcat Ajrore Shqiptare

  • Wow Man... To see your CM028 jam like that, i wonder what you've done with it. You see, i have a CM028 (batch 3) and it never failed me, not even once. I took it on long skirmish run under the haevy rain, dust an crapy ground, and it stil works fine. I have it for about 6 months now. And i often beat the TM and C&A boys he...he...

  • No i think its a cm.022 and thats real shit! I only remember this loading-problems by this model. All other models from CYMA works even better! My weapon of choice is the cm.031!

  • yea maybe he just used like shiet bbs. or didnt use a good mag.

  • same except mines never been in the rain

  • I have a cyma ak74 and i can say that it can mess with a tm ak, its very durable and it shoots VERY good with a righ range and with a very high rof like 14 shots per second. cyma has made some crappy shit guns but now, especially the ak-models are freaking awesome and much cheaper than the ca or tm ones. maybe there are some little internals like the nozzle or the hopup-unit that are not as good as the tokio marui internals but they can be easily replaced by the better ones for few money..

  • Meh, their Warhawk ak-47 was kinda bad, but yeah, other than that, almost all of their ak-47 models preformed almost just as well as a Marui. ICS on the other hand...No competition.

  • If Marui is too expensive and Cyma works like crap, I'll buy a Jin Gong/Golden Bow: everyboby says it works well, it costs 100$ (75€) less than a Marui, and it gives you all the optional.

  • the speed of the bb should affect the range. if you fired 2 guns (1 at 400 fps and 1 at 200 fps) both parellel to the ground, they should reach the ground at the same time. (just like if you fire a bullet and drop a bullet at the same time and height they will fall at the same rate) However the faster "bullet" will travel a farther distance before it reaches the ground thus giving it more range, unless my calculations aren't correct.

  • cyma sounds better imo, lol

  • WOW, you prefer a cyma over a friggin tokyo marui. Thats just stupid, all the tm owners know that it beats cyma anyday. The internals are tens times better and tm actually shim there guns right.

  • Instead of spewing mindless drivel, how about u buy a TM & a CYMA, gut the gearboxes & compare their parts - u might learn something. I own both TM & CYMA guns & have found that CYMAs r way better internally. They use steel gears & polycarbonate parts unlike the alloy/pot metal gears and cheap plastic TM uses. U don't speak 4 me as a TM owner - CYMAs are good guns: my CYMAs r shimmed & have no problems wse. Go educate yourself. TMs r overpriced junk. CYMAs r a better upgrade platform imho.

  • i have had my cm.028 V2 for almost 2 years now and it has never let me down.

    i would much rather prefer a cyma AK rather than a tokyo marui anyday.

  • you also prpbably take care of yours though!

    This guy probly just thought "Oh well, it's just a CYMA!" and after years of it just lyin' around, he makes this vid.

  • j'en et une sa merdois pas du tou

    j'avai achter du marui c'etai deja moin puissant et la gear box etai fontu au bon de 3 mois

    la cymas nn sa fai 6 mois je les

    alors rabesse pas les chinoise

    marui c cher pour de la merde et pas puissant

  • Note: I'm not on a TM bandwagon, I own a Cyma.

    TM are more reliable, but Cyma is more upgraded stock. But a stronger spring wrecks your gun faster, and as I said below FPS HAS NO AFFECT ON RANGE. Tightbores and hop ups are the first upgrades you should get on any gun.

  • well, it does a little. make a gun excatly the same[barrel length etc.], and the one with 526 FPS will go farther that the one with 132 fps!

  • 1. TM has unrivaled internal quality. Most Cyma guns suck, except for the Ak, which is pretty good, better than JG.

    2. What you pay for a TM you save in the long run when you don't have to replace it in a few years.

    3. FPS HAS NO EFFECT ON RANGE! yes, ill say it again, FPS HAS NO EFFECT ON RANGE. Look it up on the AirsoftCanada website, scientific proof the only difference between High/Low FPS is how long it takes the BB's to get to there target.

  • FPS does have an effect on range. Not nearly as much as everyone says it does, but a lot more than none.

  • WTH? I have CM.028 and i don't have problems with the magazine

  • my cyma ak 47 has fired at least 50,000 bbs and it never had a jam

  • Haha. I like the music that starts up when you reload the BB's into the mag.

  • this is so dumb cyma are cheaper just get a real one if your goona spend 300 dollars on a airsoft gun

  • NEW CYMA AEG's own maruis. CYMA AKM= 450 FPS! that would hand any maruis ass to it. and i have the cyma ak, and it goes through both sides of can and the bottom. only problem is the battery kinda blows. get a new battery and its better the TM. TM=325$ CYMA= 79$

    I think we can tell which is the better buy

  • 450 fps=cracked gearbox and you need .25 or higher to hit something

    450 is way over rifleman limits!

    cyma doesnt have as good QC as marui

    cyma comes with crappy accesories, battery charger and sometimes mags

    cyma uses pot metal and abs plastic

    marui uses aluminum, steel nylon and abs

    cyma isn't bad though

  • CYMA actually have reinforced gearboxs... if you knew anything. and the new cyma (e.g akm/ aks74u) use STEEL