wait......this is the ending of an old Zelda game when Someone dies i forget who its an old one though......Great vid lots of cut in's and out's so it leaves you thinking but still very good i wood give it 5 stars..... it is a mix of Pirates of the carribean and Zelda hmmmm? agree-ing'z of people'z?
Is there anything more oxymoronic than a parenthetical exclamation point?
Oh, and not bad. I do agree with adding more reverb, though. Percussion sounds good, but strings need some work. Try making them sound more organic by changing the dynamics (loudness) through the length of each note as well as throughout the piece.
Could use some more reverb. I am lousy at orch arranging, but I just realized today that the Garritan P.O. that came with Cakewalk actually has ensembles that divide the ranges of the instruments- I assumed like most other combo sounds they map the samples over the whole keyboard (which is unrealistic)- so I was super stoked to discover this and recorded my first really OK sounding orch piece. (okay minus percussion- got a lot to learn about orch perc)
I should have used the section strings instead of solo strings.. but I had just gotten the virtual orchestra back then and was a newbie at using it :/
Keep composing! You will find, when you start learning the trade, how hard it is to write for a whole orchestra. Writing for choir is a better way to get started as the choir functions as one big instrument so you don't have to worry about getting the instrumentation right.
You shouldn't need to EQ orchestral instruments unless they are really crap. I'm thinking of buying this sample set but I need to know that it's better than Logic's EXS24 samples.
try getting the Piston books on Counterpoint, Harmony, and Orchestration...then keep listening and get hold of the best sounds you can (like the Garritan), then work, work work...leave "finished" stuff in a "box" for a few months after finishing...then, take it out and listen with fresh ears...
@billfiddle Great point. Of all the theory and composition books I have spend hours tearing through at the library, Walter Piston is certainly the one who, I think, gives the best and most clear explinations on almost any topic. I have learned so much from him.
Hey, great work. With your knowledge it's impressive.
Anyway, the best thing you can do is to start studying music theory. I'm studying it myself at uni. I don't know if/what you're studying right now, but start studying music as soon as possible. Self learning only takes you so far when it comes to music.
Now for some "proper criticism", but first I want to say you seem to have a good nose for themes and building dynamics. Anyway, always try to avoid parallel fifths and octaves.
As I was saying, avoid parallel fifths and octaves. Your work is full of them and that's why it tends to sound medieval. Of course you are always free to do as you wish but you need to know the rules you break. Parallel fifths and octaves was typical for gregorian chant but in history after that, there's no music rule that has been as important as avoiding them. Finally I'd like to point out that the second theme is a bit weak, probably because the phrase feels too long.
Instead of having a long theme try having a shorter that you do variants on instead.
There's a lot to learn when it comes to music composition and there's probably more I could say to help you on your way but youtube comments aren't the best way to do it.
Oh, and I want to remind you that I am in no way an expert on this (yet).
Keep writing and start taking classes in music theory, it's the single best way to get better!
the only thing i will say about the medieval rule is that if your trying to go with that sound then he should be breaking the parallel 5ths rule but i do agree it needs some work.
Yes I might've been a little unclear on that. It's totally up to what he wants to achieve but in this piece I get the feeling that he didn't want the medieval sound. Rules are made to be broken, but you have to know you break them. :)
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Evgenyraskin 1 year ago
We are the same--composing out of the minimal knowledge on music.
Even lacking information, we can make a beautiful piece.
TheLfwjo 1 year ago
@TheLfwjo i do belive that lacking information can only get your music down... why not give music theory a chance?
ThisIsGorgeous 7 months ago
I like it !!
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SatoshiKambei 1 year ago
wait......this is the ending of an old Zelda game when Someone dies i forget who its an old one though......Great vid lots of cut in's and out's so it leaves you thinking but still very good i wood give it 5 stars..... it is a mix of Pirates of the carribean and Zelda hmmmm? agree-ing'z of people'z?
Mattmeo11 2 years ago
A very nice composition!
DarkRaimundo 2 years ago
cool
Morzansdaughter 2 years ago
almost sounds like Ganon's theme from Ocorina of Time :|
m00nstrider 2 years ago
sounds like metallica
ruantotoy 2 years ago
Interesting because the only song I've ever bothered to listen from Metallica is "Master of puppets" :P
mmvsn 2 years ago
@ruantotoy yes... it does quite!
MAIDENdenvula 1 year ago
Is there anything more oxymoronic than a parenthetical exclamation point?
Oh, and not bad. I do agree with adding more reverb, though. Percussion sounds good, but strings need some work. Try making them sound more organic by changing the dynamics (loudness) through the length of each note as well as throughout the piece.
madadivad1986 2 years ago
Could use some more reverb. I am lousy at orch arranging, but I just realized today that the Garritan P.O. that came with Cakewalk actually has ensembles that divide the ranges of the instruments- I assumed like most other combo sounds they map the samples over the whole keyboard (which is unrealistic)- so I was super stoked to discover this and recorded my first really OK sounding orch piece. (okay minus percussion- got a lot to learn about orch perc)
AlanSessler 2 years ago
oh, btw, very nice melody!
AlanSessler 2 years ago
sounds good. try a little more strings if ya can have a broader sound.
domorion 2 years ago 2
I should have used the section strings instead of solo strings.. but I had just gotten the virtual orchestra back then and was a newbie at using it :/
mmvsn 2 years ago
Keep composing! You will find, when you start learning the trade, how hard it is to write for a whole orchestra. Writing for choir is a better way to get started as the choir functions as one big instrument so you don't have to worry about getting the instrumentation right.
caribez 2 years ago 3
and the music needs more harmony!!!
raticida123456 2 years ago 3
you need eq, revearb and articulation tool
raticida123456 2 years ago 3
You shouldn't need to EQ orchestral instruments unless they are really crap. I'm thinking of buying this sample set but I need to know that it's better than Logic's EXS24 samples.
DarkUltros 2 years ago 3
try getting the Piston books on Counterpoint, Harmony, and Orchestration...then keep listening and get hold of the best sounds you can (like the Garritan), then work, work work...leave "finished" stuff in a "box" for a few months after finishing...then, take it out and listen with fresh ears...
best of luck...
billfiddle 2 years ago 9
@billfiddle Great point. Of all the theory and composition books I have spend hours tearing through at the library, Walter Piston is certainly the one who, I think, gives the best and most clear explinations on almost any topic. I have learned so much from him.
moredoughnuts01 1 year ago
@billfiddle hey I have that book! very good book
btjohnson96 1 year ago
Hey, great work. With your knowledge it's impressive.
Anyway, the best thing you can do is to start studying music theory. I'm studying it myself at uni. I don't know if/what you're studying right now, but start studying music as soon as possible. Self learning only takes you so far when it comes to music.
Now for some "proper criticism", but first I want to say you seem to have a good nose for themes and building dynamics. Anyway, always try to avoid parallel fifths and octaves.
caribez 3 years ago 3
As I was saying, avoid parallel fifths and octaves. Your work is full of them and that's why it tends to sound medieval. Of course you are always free to do as you wish but you need to know the rules you break. Parallel fifths and octaves was typical for gregorian chant but in history after that, there's no music rule that has been as important as avoiding them. Finally I'd like to point out that the second theme is a bit weak, probably because the phrase feels too long.
caribez 3 years ago 3
Instead of having a long theme try having a shorter that you do variants on instead.
There's a lot to learn when it comes to music composition and there's probably more I could say to help you on your way but youtube comments aren't the best way to do it.
Oh, and I want to remind you that I am in no way an expert on this (yet).
Keep writing and start taking classes in music theory, it's the single best way to get better!
caribez 3 years ago 5
the only thing i will say about the medieval rule is that if your trying to go with that sound then he should be breaking the parallel 5ths rule but i do agree it needs some work.
Sariasphs 2 years ago 2
Yes I might've been a little unclear on that. It's totally up to what he wants to achieve but in this piece I get the feeling that he didn't want the medieval sound. Rules are made to be broken, but you have to know you break them. :)
caribez 2 years ago 3
It's not bad for a school student like you. Try more and you may be more successful! :)
nvsrd 3 years ago 2
3.08 add more suspens before explotion...
that was really nice as you haven't got any kind of training,,,, keep it up! :-)
thetrojan01gr 3 years ago
Its not bad actually. Although I disliked how you repeated the main theme of the piece a bit too much. Keep at it! :)
xaldin7th 3 years ago 2
I recommend turning the volume up a bit.
mmvsn 3 years ago