“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit He takes away" -John15:1. In order to be "in Jesus" in the first place we must have become believers. When I believed, I was "grafted in" according to Romans 11:19-22, and if I do not "continue" in His goodness "otherwise [I] also will be cut off." This passage perfectly echos John 15. These are believers being discussed, no question.
I am thankful Christians did not call me human garbage before I came to know the Lord. I would have gone the other way. it was theri love that drew me in! "Religious spirits cast out love" (That's my new saying. lol)
Bud the thing you accuse me & others of, taking a passage where Jesus is talking to believers & applying it to the lost, you did the exact same thing with John 13:10.
Opps, you just failed due to your faulty logic.
Question is does using John 15:6 w/ the lost is it a false statement? NO.
Is Christ in unbelievers & are they in Him? NO
So there is no false statements & it does not change or conflict w/ other scriptures & the lost, judgment & punishment.
Steve I never applied John 13:10 to unbelievers, you did. Your'e whole video is a strawman arguement against me. You are twisting what I said in the video.
I guess you are ok with Jeff and others calling unbelievers HUMAN GARBAGE. I am not. I rather see them as lost souls that Jesus Christ DIED to save. How sad.
I will get to the source of where Jeff got this from. He used it to cover up his own sin. The very definition of a false teacher. I hope that you don't feel stupid afterward.
Yes you did apply it - you even showed words on the screen showing John 13:10 & saying unclean pertains to unbelievers.
You can call it strawman but I was just using your own logic which failed - showing how you.
Fact remains without Christ we are nothing & our destiny is to be burned. Seek God, Know Him & His word and the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.
THANK YOU , BUDMAN FOR DOING THIS VID EXPOSING THEIR FALSE TEACHINGS! Agree 100 per cent! Great job ON THIS! It will help many to see the true interpretations of this passage. favorited,shared!
I have not seen the video you are responding to but I agree with your interpretation of John 15. This goes right along with what John the Baptist said about the ax being laid at the foot of the tree that does not bare fruit in 'keeping with' repentance.
Matthew 3:8-12
"Bring forth therefore fruits meet for (corresponding to) repentance...And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.>>>
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, AND with FIre:
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
Chaff is NOT a part of a tare, it is a part of the grain/wheat that is not worthy of the barn.
Thank you for pointing that out. I never stopped to consider that the chaff is not part of the tare, that gives me a new perspective, again thank you.
“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch IN ME that does not bear fruit He takes away" -John15:1. In order to be "in Jesus" in the first place we must have become believers. When I believed, I was "grafted in" according to Romans 11:19-22, and if I do not "continue" in His goodness "otherwise [I] also will be cut off." This passage perfectly echos John 15. These are believers being discussed, no question.
Blessings Bud!
Jimvesterstallone 1 year ago
I am thankful Christians did not call me human garbage before I came to know the Lord. I would have gone the other way. it was theri love that drew me in! "Religious spirits cast out love" (That's my new saying. lol)
Lachance8 1 year ago 4
Lachance8
Amen! I am glad that Jesus doesn't call us human garbage either Sis! We do serve an awesome and merciful God!
Praise Jesus!
InHISWord2 1 year ago 4
Oh Lachance8, that is so true! Thank you for stating this truth. We are Yeshua's light on earth, to help bring His lambs home.
boltingpuppies 1 year ago
Bud the thing you accuse me & others of, taking a passage where Jesus is talking to believers & applying it to the lost, you did the exact same thing with John 13:10.
Opps, you just failed due to your faulty logic.
Question is does using John 15:6 w/ the lost is it a false statement? NO.
Is Christ in unbelievers & are they in Him? NO
So there is no false statements & it does not change or conflict w/ other scriptures & the lost, judgment & punishment.
Look up strong's G3306 meno c1
;)
hetgow 1 year ago
Steve I never applied John 13:10 to unbelievers, you did. Your'e whole video is a strawman arguement against me. You are twisting what I said in the video.
I guess you are ok with Jeff and others calling unbelievers HUMAN GARBAGE. I am not. I rather see them as lost souls that Jesus Christ DIED to save. How sad.
I will get to the source of where Jeff got this from. He used it to cover up his own sin. The very definition of a false teacher. I hope that you don't feel stupid afterward.
BudManInChrist 1 year ago
Yes you did apply it - you even showed words on the screen showing John 13:10 & saying unclean pertains to unbelievers.
You can call it strawman but I was just using your own logic which failed - showing how you.
Fact remains without Christ we are nothing & our destiny is to be burned. Seek God, Know Him & His word and the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.
God bless
hetgow 1 year ago
THANK YOU , BUDMAN FOR DOING THIS VID EXPOSING THEIR FALSE TEACHINGS! Agree 100 per cent! Great job ON THIS! It will help many to see the true interpretations of this passage. favorited,shared!
Lachance8 1 year ago 4
menō-G3306:
Abide, Remain, Not to depart
In order to 'meno' one must already be 'in'
Blessings in Yeshua
boltingpuppies 1 year ago 3
Thank you for that my sister :)
God bless you.
BudManInChrist 1 year ago
Hetgow know what the bible says but does not have clue on what the meaning is. Steve is a bad teacher.
Zoomerange 1 year ago
1)
I have not seen the video you are responding to but I agree with your interpretation of John 15. This goes right along with what John the Baptist said about the ax being laid at the foot of the tree that does not bare fruit in 'keeping with' repentance.
Matthew 3:8-12
"Bring forth therefore fruits meet for (corresponding to) repentance...And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.>>>
boltingpuppies 1 year ago 3
2)
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, AND with FIre:
Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."
Chaff is NOT a part of a tare, it is a part of the grain/wheat that is not worthy of the barn.
Blessings
boltingpuppies 1 year ago 5
Agreed! with boltingpuppies and budman!
InHISWord2 1 year ago 3
*puppie*
Thank you for pointing that out. I never stopped to consider that the chaff is not part of the tare, that gives me a new perspective, again thank you.
SEMINOLECALL 1 year ago
Yeshua showed me that. He's the best!
boltingpuppies 1 year ago