@MrDoobie28 Cheers squire..too bad BBC4 isnt on telly here in Oz!...thankfully I got mi mam to record this when it was shown just after his death 2 + years ago, and so I have a tape and a self made DVD of this. But thanks again- hopefuly some other fans have been alerted by your post anyway!- Ian
@peterperry268 Cheers. Yes I knew his real middle name was David, (though his first name was actually Iain -the double 'i' form). His vocals were esp great on this I reckon, out of all his 'band' versions of this one,
@copperfield3629 Yes, its was 'Max the Hat' as they called him then. Myself, I love this, tho the extensive keyboards while well done, may be a bit over the top at times 'noodlin'. I love JMs guitar and vox on this.
Ian--I take it as a great honour my comments are right at the top !! I think John is looking down at both of us--smiling. Sorry you never got to meet him. For me , it was an absolute fluke being on the same plane as him--he told me he was going to Montreux . And nobody else on the plane knew who he was .
Hmnn-can remember seeing this on 'A little night music' way back in 81-think it came from BBC Bristol. Always have loved this guy and his music. Seen him live many times. Last time at Albert Hall 16 April 2007-he was wheeled onto the stage in his wheelchair. My 9 year old daughter preferred the support act !! Met him after 81 on a flight from Edinburgh to Gatwick. Nobody else recognised him on the plane. Was reading 'To Kill A Mockingbird' and he autograped the book for me.What a great guy !
@MrDoobie28 Thing is about JM..everybody that knows of him seems to have met him (or women slept with him).. except just bloody me (met him that is, ahem). So I always envy -a wee bit - anybody that tells me these things, 'cos he is the ultimate, to me, musically, in terms of vocals, playing & composition being rolled all into one person...incredible sounds to me, still. I always loved this performance of his on BBC2 back in 81..still at the top of his game guitar wise & great vocals here.-Ian
Ian, I just sent a friend request, so I can give you the craic on Kirk. His band was called Orealis: Spencer & many other tunes are available on itunes.
@scratchy45 Yes ta v much for that, done that. Thats right, Orealis. But I didnt think of looking on itunes at all. Must do so now. Thanks very much for this. I wonder if anyones got any videos of Orealis for youtube upload ? - Ian
Ian, are you related to himself? I had the honour of knowing Kirk McGeachy for many's the year here in Montreal, and I know he was a cousin of JM (& also did a great version of Spencer the Rover.)
@scratchy45 Alas, no. I took the username 3 days prior to JM dying, didnt post for quite a while, thought may be regarded as bad taste, at least too close to his passing. (But I do share the 1st name). In the JM bio' book, interesting about Kirk, & his comments there. Kirk was* a good player and perfomer himself, I have read (*sadly deceased also I believe?) 'JM' taught Kirk some guitar and Kirk had some very early tape recordings of JM. I'd Love to hear Kirks Sp the Rover-any tapes? Cheers, Ian
i have come back to watch this soo many times, since youtube is better now, is it possible for you to re-upload this so that we can have it with higher quality?
Aye- I know what you mean. Actually I had probs uploading initially when I did try uploading one fair bigger size than this. One of things though- this was taken already from a 'not good quality' VHS tape and its hard to improve 'much' on the quality. I'll maybe have another go though. I did try to cajole someone to upload from a better quality tape than mine- that doesnt have the glitch in it (after about 3:30) that mine does where the sound also drops out slightly. Cheers.
I think this piece (Outside In-aka Inside Out) is like a musical Paella..some characteristic things in there, and, like a Jazz piece-he improvised around those things to give a different performance/version each time he played. This must've been one of first times he did this with a band I reckon. I didn't mind this early band or his band versions with Cozens tho' I also preferred him solo or with Danny T (like most I suppose).
I think I do know. Jeff Allen -drums, Danny Cummings (percussion), Alan Thomson (bass), and the then famous keyboards session player Max Middleton. Alan Thomson played with John on and off for many years- up to his last performances I think.
Classic. Great post Ian. I got this from "In Vision" too (along with the others I posted). Would have posted it myself ages ago but I thought it was restricted to 10mins and it's just over (have they changed that?) Anyway, couldn't decide on a good point to split it so I never got round to it.
Hello there Jim, I found out a while back that videos can be posted up to 10min59s...when I posted the shes a lover- solid air clip I had the problem of a long video there. Only prob here is theres a bit of a tape distortion just as he goes into the slow bit...maybe you dont have that?
if so that would give a better videoclip. Also I cant easily make HD videoclips which this would benefit for for studying finger positions for guitar nuttas like thee and me.
Well this was the BBC studios of course (back in 81 Alexandra Palace?). I recall (see below comment to bunilvr) this actually coming on TV ('A little NIght Music')- BBC2 at the time. But if anyone would have had the audacity to have chain smoked ganja in a BBC studio it would probably have been this bloke (with Keef' Richards a second option)!
Glad you like this Julie, it's a real favourite of mine of him. Fantastic song/piece and John showing his guitar ability -unusual for him at that time. I remember in '81 rushing for my trusty beetamax videorecorder controls -(good decision eh by me on format!!(not)) -one night when this came on national TV in the UK -only got last half of it though...luckily later in life got the In Vision videotape with this song- that tape is like gold-dust now. Merry Christmas to you! enjoy!
It's my pleasure to share this- my favourite JM videoed performance- I also saw him live quite a few times, though only in the 70s and 80s in the UK. But- we can all still see him perform thanks to DVDs and so on and listen to his music.
Miss you Johnny Boy.
Glad I had that drink and puff with you.
Real down to earth man.
Branton48 1 week ago
Tonight on BBC 4 at 11.35
John Martyn-Johnny Too Bad -a profile of the influential
singer songwriter.
MrDoobie28 4 months ago
@MrDoobie28 Cheers squire..too bad BBC4 isnt on telly here in Oz!...thankfully I got mi mam to record this when it was shown just after his death 2 + years ago, and so I have a tape and a self made DVD of this. But thanks again- hopefuly some other fans have been alerted by your post anyway!- Ian
ianmcgeachy 4 months ago
Thx buddy. I thought at one time I knew Iain reasonably well, but when I quizzed him on sthg , he replied.."Tell them I'm somebody else"...lol.
Please excuse my typo.:)
peterperry268 5 months ago
In fact its Ian David McGeachy fyi ...
peterperry268 5 months ago
@peterperry268 Cheers. Yes I knew his real middle name was David, (though his first name was actually Iain -the double 'i' form). His vocals were esp great on this I reckon, out of all his 'band' versions of this one,
ianmcgeachy 5 months ago
Of course this was bleedin frantic, he'd finally got shut of Bev and Big Muff...
peterperry268 5 months ago
Nice upload, brilliant musicianship as ever though a bit too frantic for my taste. Is that Max Middleton on keyboards?
copperfield3629 5 months ago
@copperfield3629 Yes, its was 'Max the Hat' as they called him then. Myself, I love this, tho the extensive keyboards while well done, may be a bit over the top at times 'noodlin'. I love JMs guitar and vox on this.
ianmcgeachy 5 months ago
Ian--I take it as a great honour my comments are right at the top !! I think John is looking down at both of us--smiling. Sorry you never got to meet him. For me , it was an absolute fluke being on the same plane as him--he told me he was going to Montreux . And nobody else on the plane knew who he was .
MrDoobie28 9 months ago
only problem is I cannot find the book !!
Babes, are you there ?
MrDoobie28 9 months ago
Hmnn-can remember seeing this on 'A little night music' way back in 81-think it came from BBC Bristol. Always have loved this guy and his music. Seen him live many times. Last time at Albert Hall 16 April 2007-he was wheeled onto the stage in his wheelchair. My 9 year old daughter preferred the support act !! Met him after 81 on a flight from Edinburgh to Gatwick. Nobody else recognised him on the plane. Was reading 'To Kill A Mockingbird' and he autograped the book for me.What a great guy !
MrDoobie28 9 months ago
@MrDoobie28 Thing is about JM..everybody that knows of him seems to have met him (or women slept with him).. except just bloody me (met him that is, ahem). So I always envy -a wee bit - anybody that tells me these things, 'cos he is the ultimate, to me, musically, in terms of vocals, playing & composition being rolled all into one person...incredible sounds to me, still. I always loved this performance of his on BBC2 back in 81..still at the top of his game guitar wise & great vocals here.-Ian
ianmcgeachy 9 months ago
Ian, I just sent a friend request, so I can give you the craic on Kirk. His band was called Orealis: Spencer & many other tunes are available on itunes.
scratchy45 1 year ago
@scratchy45 Yes ta v much for that, done that. Thats right, Orealis. But I didnt think of looking on itunes at all. Must do so now. Thanks very much for this. I wonder if anyones got any videos of Orealis for youtube upload ? - Ian
ianmcgeachy 1 year ago
Ian, are you related to himself? I had the honour of knowing Kirk McGeachy for many's the year here in Montreal, and I know he was a cousin of JM (& also did a great version of Spencer the Rover.)
Cheers from Mtl, Patrick (Hutchinson)
scratchy45 1 year ago
@scratchy45 Alas, no. I took the username 3 days prior to JM dying, didnt post for quite a while, thought may be regarded as bad taste, at least too close to his passing. (But I do share the 1st name). In the JM bio' book, interesting about Kirk, & his comments there. Kirk was* a good player and perfomer himself, I have read (*sadly deceased also I believe?) 'JM' taught Kirk some guitar and Kirk had some very early tape recordings of JM. I'd Love to hear Kirks Sp the Rover-any tapes? Cheers, Ian
ianmcgeachy 1 year ago
i have come back to watch this soo many times, since youtube is better now, is it possible for you to re-upload this so that we can have it with higher quality?
StoneCrowUK 1 year ago
@StoneCrowUK
Aye- I know what you mean. Actually I had probs uploading initially when I did try uploading one fair bigger size than this. One of things though- this was taken already from a 'not good quality' VHS tape and its hard to improve 'much' on the quality. I'll maybe have another go though. I did try to cajole someone to upload from a better quality tape than mine- that doesnt have the glitch in it (after about 3:30) that mine does where the sound also drops out slightly. Cheers.
ianmcgeachy 1 year ago
awesome!
StoneCrowUK 1 year ago
Woah what an unusual rendition of this song!
I'm not really a fan of his band in the 80's but this version is very interesting. I'll never get all that synth noodling though!
DropCTuned 2 years ago
I think this piece (Outside In-aka Inside Out) is like a musical Paella..some characteristic things in there, and, like a Jazz piece-he improvised around those things to give a different performance/version each time he played. This must've been one of first times he did this with a band I reckon. I didn't mind this early band or his band versions with Cozens tho' I also preferred him solo or with Danny T (like most I suppose).
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
29th jan,1year on,just lit a j,master of the fervent groove.
beetle5908 2 years ago
it would be rude not to, god bless 'im
shinytinhead 2 years ago
anyone know who the rest of the musicians were in this line up? or are they just now distant memories that are lost in time now too?
feldmun 2 years ago
I think I do know. Jeff Allen -drums, Danny Cummings (percussion), Alan Thomson (bass), and the then famous keyboards session player Max Middleton. Alan Thomson played with John on and off for many years- up to his last performances I think.
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
one word, mindblowing.
cosmicrider287 2 years ago
Classic. Great post Ian. I got this from "In Vision" too (along with the others I posted). Would have posted it myself ages ago but I thought it was restricted to 10mins and it's just over (have they changed that?) Anyway, couldn't decide on a good point to split it so I never got round to it.
Thanks for posting. :)
Jim.
Waggonerslad 2 years ago
Hello there Jim, I found out a while back that videos can be posted up to 10min59s...when I posted the shes a lover- solid air clip I had the problem of a long video there. Only prob here is theres a bit of a tape distortion just as he goes into the slow bit...maybe you dont have that?
if so that would give a better videoclip. Also I cant easily make HD videoclips which this would benefit for for studying finger positions for guitar nuttas like thee and me.
ps what tuning u think here?
-ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
this is a good'n Ian,....a few spliffs smoked in the studio by the looks of things,surprised the fire engines were'nt called in!
Graham
deltacelt1 2 years ago
Well this was the BBC studios of course (back in 81 Alexandra Palace?). I recall (see below comment to bunilvr) this actually coming on TV ('A little NIght Music')- BBC2 at the time. But if anyone would have had the audacity to have chain smoked ganja in a BBC studio it would probably have been this bloke (with Keef' Richards a second option)!
Glad you like this-Ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
Wonderful to see the big man in action. Brings back great memories. Thanks for posting.
tamsarian9 2 years ago
you're very welcome, and those John Martyn memories- savour them, they're precious.
-ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
Pure heaven! I would love to find a copy of this. Thank you Ian for posting. I'll be here all day :)
cheers my friend
julie
buniluvr 2 years ago
Glad you like this Julie, it's a real favourite of mine of him. Fantastic song/piece and John showing his guitar ability -unusual for him at that time. I remember in '81 rushing for my trusty beetamax videorecorder controls -(good decision eh by me on format!!(not)) -one night when this came on national TV in the UK -only got last half of it though...luckily later in life got the In Vision videotape with this song- that tape is like gold-dust now. Merry Christmas to you! enjoy!
-ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
Brill Ian. Cheers m'man. D.
DamianNixon 2 years ago
You're most welcome Sir! Have a merry Christmas in that Emerald Isle anall'
-ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
Magic
Thanks Ian
LiteGauge 2 years ago
You're very welcome John-have a good yuletide anall'
-ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago
Five Diamonds fot this*****
I was lucky enough to see him live a couple of times:)
Thanks for the post.
Shane
strangeattractor291 2 years ago
It's my pleasure to share this- my favourite JM videoed performance- I also saw him live quite a few times, though only in the 70s and 80s in the UK. But- we can all still see him perform thanks to DVDs and so on and listen to his music.
- all the best.
ian
ianmcgeachy 2 years ago