@jscalise1 NEVER compare this guy to a concert musician. If you're gonna compare Heifetz to a guitarist it should be someone like Julian Bream or Pepe Romero. NEVER to Shawn Lane.
He was a great player and he's right about instruments that don't require chords being good formats for incorporating that musical technique to guitar.RIP Shawn.
Son of a gun. I'm a violinist, and I've also begun playing the guitar. I know so much about the differences between the two instruments. But I guess a genius like shawn lane is able to bridge the gap between the two. What's even more amazing is that he makes it sound and look as clean and effortless as Jascha Heifetz probably did while playing the piece. I guess great minds really think alike. Heifetz and Shawn Lane will influence my playing for the rest of my life
@ChiZ712 Not necessarily; reverb can make a dead note disappear, especially if you're paying fast, because it fills the mix in. There's no dead space to tell you its a missed note; if you don't know the piece beforehand, it just seems like a pause.
That said he makes zero mistakes so I guess its a moot point.
Does anyone know where there is a tab for this? Its pretty easy to hear about half of it in whatever key right away but I would like to play the whole thing. Thanks very much to whoever can help.
Q - How many guitar players does is take to screw in a light bulb?
A - 100. 1 to screw it in and 99 to say how they would have done it better.
Shawn's not making any historical assertions here, he's just demonstrating a piece famously performed by Heifetz and suggesting that learning music not usually performed on guitar could enhance your playing.
Im saying that the attack of the note is arbitrary when it is completely buried under all the reverb. When any other string instrumentalist plays staccato then it sounds stacatto. Electric guitarists become too dependent on effects.
@proggoth idk i guess i just don't mind it with shawn because his flawless technique makes up for it. if it were someone who relies soley on those effects to hide mistakes and whatnot iwould care more.
Even more reason to take exception in that not only is he masking a flawless technique he is no longer even demonstrating the 'point' of the video. I suppose once you consider the differences in difficulty in down bow staccato on the violin and merely cross picking I am really just splitting hairs.
nah, everybody has their preferences. plus at least you understand what you're talking about, unlike most of the people discussing these topics on youtube guitar videos :P
@TimJMorrison It would be impossible to play on the guitar in its original context as that requires up bow and down bow staccato. Both extremely difficult techniques that cannot be performed without a bow. That wasn't even my point.
@TimJMorrison Well in that case since ladling on effects still sounds staccato why just stop at a little reverb. How about a wa wa and a voice box and a bass micro synth. At least then we would be thinking through the effects instead of just putting reverb on high and leaving it there no matter what we were playing.
Bad guitar playing is going to sound bad drenched in reverb. Good guitar playing will sound like good guitar playing drenched in reverb. To each his own. Who's to say what sounds or bad. It's a matter of opinion. Perhaps you've become too dependent on yours.
Many guitarists use reverb to hide their imprecise play. We all know this trick right? For demonstration purposes I would've used less effect for an instructional video on playing staccato. I didnt think my point was that obtuse when i originally posted. Serves me right for trying to start an intelligent musical discussion with other guitarists.
For some reason I just really doubt Shawn would do that.
By going with what you say, EVERYONE that uses reverb would just be masking their mistakes. Reverb doesn't always mean that someone is hiding their mistakes, it means they just like the tone. Plain and simple.
Let me give you time to analyze that.
Shawn Lane's technical point here is that it's just a great alternate picking excersise, the point isn't staccato, it's just the way it transcribes is just good for alternate picking.
@CFloBucket Of course i am not saying everyone that uses reverb is masking their mistakes. I am not even saying that Shawn is using it to hide his mistakes. How is it that you could so comprehensively misunderstand what i have been saying?
@CFloBucket ....ive only been playing for 12 months and and am obv totally ignorant to guitar however i love using reverb purely for the sound, so i wasnt even aware it covered up mistakes, certainly doesnt cover up mine...haha...i just use it for the sound and i love it...just my 2 cents...
Guitar+reverb+Hora Staccato=violin+cathedral+Hora Staccato. Staccato playing is STILL staccato playing in the HANDS but such ATMOSPHERES will not SHOWCASE it as well as legato. Big reverbs/rooms confuse the ear's recognition of the separation of notes that is a major component of staccato. Though 99% of ANYthing Shawn is ubercool, his tone WAS drenched in fx that weren't always appropriate for some of the video examples, even IF this one wasn't about the tech but going outside guitar repertoire.
@ununoctium100 Thankyou. I remember getting killed on here a couple years ago for suggesting he tone down the fx when executing such precise technical passages. My point was not that he was hiding sloppy play but that many guitarists dont give proper consideration to their settings and their composer's intention.
@proggoth You're welcome. Pat Metheny is an example of a guitarist that I don't give a damn about because his tone is such horseshit. He should take some of the time he uses to slam Kenny G and his moneymaking approaches to jazz and use it to make sure his guitar doesn't sound like somebody kicking the side of a cardboard box. Is that an E or an F, Pat? Who knows, with all of his mud...
Santana is is another emperor without clothing whose neck PU "woman tone" mush just clearcoats his slop.
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yes but he could've chosen any peice that would've been much better to show alternate picking. this piece (hora staccato) is much more focused on having an extremely good staccato bowing technique.
kikkom4n you are looking at this very pessimistically. Using "Hora Staccato" or any other classical piece allows the guitarist to escape the monotony of normal alternate picking exercises. This is a great example for when quick bursts of alternate picking are needed. Saying that he could have chosen a better piece is far too vague not to mention the fact that you're questioning an absolutely brilliant musician.
I never really said that the usage of classical peices would be incorrect. I just said that this was just a bad choice to as that peice was intended for an entirely different technique.
Also, simply saying that he is a brilliant musician does not mean that he is a brilliant teacher. Segovia was a great guitarist but his teaching technique was meager at best.
Your comment, however, is much more commendable compared to the one who had to use an ad hominem to argue his points.
kikkom4n there is always room for a civil debate. People tend to forget that.
With that said, you cannot judge Shawn Lane's teaching abilities on this video alone. Check out some of his other videos on youtube and see what you think. If he were still alive today, I would be first in line to have him as a teacher.
True, it was written for violin. Have you played it on guitar though? The way it's arranged on the fretboard with a plectrum, you'll find, does work alternate picking fairly effectively.
im not saying that alternate picking wouldn't work. after all i do play the guitar myself. i was arguing that a much more suitable peice would be better. its just my opinion.
@jscalise1 NEVER compare this guy to a concert musician. If you're gonna compare Heifetz to a guitarist it should be someone like Julian Bream or Pepe Romero. NEVER to Shawn Lane.
MikeyIV 4 months ago
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XfuckiutubeX 4 months ago
Shawn makes Paul Gilbert look bad, and PG is BAD ASS!
HillaryHitler 7 months ago
@HillaryHitler Shawn Lane was fucking scary at age 16. The man was a true beast.
danukenator123 7 months ago
He was a great player and he's right about instruments that don't require chords being good formats for incorporating that musical technique to guitar.RIP Shawn.
blitzspeer 8 months ago
jesus fucking christ his trills are quick
razorguitar777 9 months ago
I mentioned it because i don't think that "hora" romanian dance has something to do with the swedesh word. maybe it is a coincidence
clarinet01rc1 11 months ago
Very nice..Hora staccato it's a romanian violin song by Grigoras Dinicu
rockhour1976 1 year ago 7
This is so easy for him...
Timmonsec 1 year ago
@charvinaldo
It's called hybrid picking.
BMezaGuitarist 1 year ago
hey does anyone know what exactly he's doing at 0:13? i mean is it alternate picked, combo of legato and picking, ...anyone?
charvinaldo 1 year ago
@charvinaldo
In that little 1 sec segment it looks to me like he picks the first note while the rest is legato.
0ptriX 1 year ago
@charvinaldo hybrid picking, so he plays one of the notes with the pick and fingerpicks the rest
XavSch 1 year ago
"hora" in swedish to english would be "whore" if someone wants to know..
Morenumbers123456789 1 year ago 2
@Morenumbers123456789 it is a tratitional romanian dance, it does not have enithing to do with swedesh
clarinet01rc1 11 months ago
@clarinet01rc1
"Hora" translated from swedish to english is "whore", try it with google translate. I speak swedish, you don't. I believe I know that better ;)
Morenumbers123456789 11 months ago
@Morenumbers123456789 its not that i don't belive u, but i don't see a connection with romanian dances. :))))
clarinet01rc1 11 months ago
@clarinet01rc1
You don't see a connection with romanian dances?? Then why did you mention it first then?? :D
Morenumbers123456789 11 months ago
shawn lane is the fuckin shit, i just downloaded teh books to these videos and damn are they hard. but i learned a cool little classical peice though
MAJOR thumbs up!!!!
ratican 1 year ago 3
@ratican Could you show me where? I used "Google" *whirrrr*
But can find it.
TheHornet79 1 year ago
Son of a gun. I'm a violinist, and I've also begun playing the guitar. I know so much about the differences between the two instruments. But I guess a genius like shawn lane is able to bridge the gap between the two. What's even more amazing is that he makes it sound and look as clean and effortless as Jascha Heifetz probably did while playing the piece. I guess great minds really think alike. Heifetz and Shawn Lane will influence my playing for the rest of my life
manilamaestro 1 year ago
Too bad sheets for this are not public domain. :(
Hacim123 1 year ago
reverb doesn't cover up mistakes distortion does.
ChiZ712 1 year ago 5
@ChiZ712 Not necessarily; reverb can make a dead note disappear, especially if you're paying fast, because it fills the mix in. There's no dead space to tell you its a missed note; if you don't know the piece beforehand, it just seems like a pause.
That said he makes zero mistakes so I guess its a moot point.
ubustang 1 year ago
Shawn Lane is great.If you wan't to see more of these styles of guitar playing I would link Alirio Diaz.
blitzspeer 1 year ago
I like reverb because of the way it sounds. End of story.
Shinmeiryu 1 year ago
whose d ass who said tht reverb is used to hide mistakes...
if thts d case then i dnt think
paul gilbert, rusty cooley, guthrie govan, micheal angelo batio and buckethead 2 name a few would talk 2 freakin highly of shawn lane...
nevmem 2 years ago 2
haha, shawn lane and mistakes in the same sentence? nonsense.
fugitive1201 1 year ago 3
Does anyone know where there is a tab for this? Its pretty easy to hear about half of it in whatever key right away but I would like to play the whole thing. Thanks very much to whoever can help.
charvinaldo 2 years ago
Hora Staccato was written by Grigoraş Dinicu, Heifetz its only the more well known performer of it, give some respect please
YetInue 2 years ago 2
@YetInue Exactly, Hora staccato was composed by Romanian violinist Grigoras Dinicu in 1906. LOL!!!
@laxballdmw respect historical truth and change the data written by you in the description! My God!!!
EllyYourShadow 1 year ago
@EllyYourShadow
I think Shawn was referring to someone covering the song before.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
"i can play a little bit of"
jonashred 2 years ago
Is there any thing Shawn couldn't do?
don't bother answering because that question is ridiculous, the answer is no.
Shawn was and still is the best.
trevskiw2008 2 years ago 3
And this is Example 1 :P.
XguitrfreekX 2 years ago
Joke-
Q - How many guitar players does is take to screw in a light bulb?
A - 100. 1 to screw it in and 99 to say how they would have done it better.
Shawn's not making any historical assertions here, he's just demonstrating a piece famously performed by Heifetz and suggesting that learning music not usually performed on guitar could enhance your playing.
No harm, no foul.
Milopb1 2 years ago 109
@Milopb1
Hahahahaha quote of the week!
ideosynchronicity 2 years ago
haha SO TRUE!!!
AbstractMan23 2 years ago
@Milopb1 man, you took that joke and replaced trumpet with guitar! haha it really applies to both though
charvinaldo 1 year ago
@Milopb1 joke-
Q - How many lead guitarists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A - 1, he just holds it up and the room revolves around him :P
ijfox87 1 year ago
To perform a piece with the term "staccato" in the title and then use a heavy delay would seem to defeat the purpose wouldn't it?
proggoth 2 years ago
@proggoth no, why would it ? staccato is how you approach/attack the note. it doesn't matter if he had some delay or reverb on.
mooch666 2 years ago
Im saying that the attack of the note is arbitrary when it is completely buried under all the reverb. When any other string instrumentalist plays staccato then it sounds stacatto. Electric guitarists become too dependent on effects.
proggoth 2 years ago
@proggoth idk i guess i just don't mind it with shawn because his flawless technique makes up for it. if it were someone who relies soley on those effects to hide mistakes and whatnot iwould care more.
mooch666 2 years ago
Even more reason to take exception in that not only is he masking a flawless technique he is no longer even demonstrating the 'point' of the video. I suppose once you consider the differences in difficulty in down bow staccato on the violin and merely cross picking I am really just splitting hairs.
proggoth 2 years ago
nah, everybody has their preferences. plus at least you understand what you're talking about, unlike most of the people discussing these topics on youtube guitar videos :P
mooch666 2 years ago
@proggoth
"good guitar exercise in alternate picking"
Shawn wasn't even trying to play it like it would be in its original context....
TimJMorrison 2 years ago
@TimJMorrison It would be impossible to play on the guitar in its original context as that requires up bow and down bow staccato. Both extremely difficult techniques that cannot be performed without a bow. That wasn't even my point.
proggoth 2 years ago
I said "LIKE it would be in its original context" as in, play it staccato.
I'm pretty sure your problem was that he wasn't playing it staccato because his effects smoothed it out too much.
TimJMorrison 2 years ago
@TimJMorrison My problem is that he IS playing it staccato but the heavy amount of the effect used obscures the technical point of the video.
proggoth 2 years ago
But the technical point is only that it is good for alternate picking despite originally being good for staccato practice.
TimJMorrison 2 years ago
@TimJMorrison Well in that case since ladling on effects still sounds staccato why just stop at a little reverb. How about a wa wa and a voice box and a bass micro synth. At least then we would be thinking through the effects instead of just putting reverb on high and leaving it there no matter what we were playing.
proggoth 2 years ago
Bad guitar playing is going to sound bad drenched in reverb. Good guitar playing will sound like good guitar playing drenched in reverb. To each his own. Who's to say what sounds or bad. It's a matter of opinion. Perhaps you've become too dependent on yours.
landonech 2 years ago
Many guitarists use reverb to hide their imprecise play. We all know this trick right? For demonstration purposes I would've used less effect for an instructional video on playing staccato. I didnt think my point was that obtuse when i originally posted. Serves me right for trying to start an intelligent musical discussion with other guitarists.
proggoth 2 years ago
For some reason I just really doubt Shawn would do that.
By going with what you say, EVERYONE that uses reverb would just be masking their mistakes. Reverb doesn't always mean that someone is hiding their mistakes, it means they just like the tone. Plain and simple.
Let me give you time to analyze that.
Shawn Lane's technical point here is that it's just a great alternate picking excersise, the point isn't staccato, it's just the way it transcribes is just good for alternate picking.
CFloBucket 2 years ago
@CFloBucket Of course i am not saying everyone that uses reverb is masking their mistakes. I am not even saying that Shawn is using it to hide his mistakes. How is it that you could so comprehensively misunderstand what i have been saying?
proggoth 2 years ago
@CFloBucket ....ive only been playing for 12 months and and am obv totally ignorant to guitar however i love using reverb purely for the sound, so i wasnt even aware it covered up mistakes, certainly doesnt cover up mine...haha...i just use it for the sound and i love it...just my 2 cents...
tabulaerasae82 2 years ago
Guitar+reverb+Hora Staccato=violin+cathedral+Hora Staccato. Staccato playing is STILL staccato playing in the HANDS but such ATMOSPHERES will not SHOWCASE it as well as legato. Big reverbs/rooms confuse the ear's recognition of the separation of notes that is a major component of staccato. Though 99% of ANYthing Shawn is ubercool, his tone WAS drenched in fx that weren't always appropriate for some of the video examples, even IF this one wasn't about the tech but going outside guitar repertoire.
ununoctium100 5 months ago
@ununoctium100 Thankyou. I remember getting killed on here a couple years ago for suggesting he tone down the fx when executing such precise technical passages. My point was not that he was hiding sloppy play but that many guitarists dont give proper consideration to their settings and their composer's intention.
proggoth 5 months ago
@proggoth You're welcome. Pat Metheny is an example of a guitarist that I don't give a damn about because his tone is such horseshit. He should take some of the time he uses to slam Kenny G and his moneymaking approaches to jazz and use it to make sure his guitar doesn't sound like somebody kicking the side of a cardboard box. Is that an E or an F, Pat? Who knows, with all of his mud...
Santana is is another emperor without clothing whose neck PU "woman tone" mush just clearcoats his slop.
ununoctium100 5 months ago 2
Dear god, he was god !
Mynameisfukingtaken 2 years ago 6
legend.
fabianidhesona 2 years ago
Sorry, but the real composer was Grigoras Dinicu, (premiere 1906)! Hey, basic music culture!
bateyes96 2 years ago
I didnt hear him say that the man he mentioned composed it. he just said "did it" as in performed it.
cryingindian 2 years ago
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saxonrocks747 2 years ago
delay delay delay delay!
joeylodes 2 years ago 5
he uses a delay thats right.
Idiotcorrector 2 years ago 5
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I see Hora Staccato also has trills made up of hammerons and pulloffs.
Trills are the next step after alternate picking.
why don't you just punish the students with tocatta fugue shawn lol
azkeyz 2 years ago
It was composed by Grigoras Dinicu, romanian composer!
EdwinMarc 2 years ago 4
Hora Stacatto was not composed by Jascha Jeifetz. Heifetz was just one of many violins (arguably the best) who performed this piece.
guitarike 2 years ago 3
se llama hora stacatto...
se perdió toda la gracia
54294493 2 years ago
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i just got new webcam
hillre2010 3 years ago
It's not Hora Legato...
SavenkovD 3 years ago
haha
:)
Osmeh1000strana 2 years ago
looove the baroque feel
jonrivera 3 years ago 2
Does anyyone have tab for this?
justreleased09 3 years ago
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why does he play this peice on the guitar? the whole point of the peice is to show the player's staccato abilities. with a guitar, you can't do that.
kikkom4n 3 years ago
you can staccato on guitar...
pochankitty 3 years ago 6
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I guess you beat me on that, but it's nowhere near the quality of staccato bowing.
kikkom4n 3 years ago
he's using it as a warm up exercise to help alternate pick a guitar string you dumbass, Shawn Lane's abilities would make any piece sound amazing.
RogerSherrer 3 years ago 3
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yes but he could've chosen any peice that would've been much better to show alternate picking. this piece (hora staccato) is much more focused on having an extremely good staccato bowing technique.
kikkom4n 3 years ago
kikkom4n you are looking at this very pessimistically. Using "Hora Staccato" or any other classical piece allows the guitarist to escape the monotony of normal alternate picking exercises. This is a great example for when quick bursts of alternate picking are needed. Saying that he could have chosen a better piece is far too vague not to mention the fact that you're questioning an absolutely brilliant musician.
ABadHorsie 3 years ago 48
I never really said that the usage of classical peices would be incorrect. I just said that this was just a bad choice to as that peice was intended for an entirely different technique.
Also, simply saying that he is a brilliant musician does not mean that he is a brilliant teacher. Segovia was a great guitarist but his teaching technique was meager at best.
Your comment, however, is much more commendable compared to the one who had to use an ad hominem to argue his points.
kikkom4n 3 years ago
kikkom4n there is always room for a civil debate. People tend to forget that.
With that said, you cannot judge Shawn Lane's teaching abilities on this video alone. Check out some of his other videos on youtube and see what you think. If he were still alive today, I would be first in line to have him as a teacher.
ABadHorsie 3 years ago 6
True, it was written for violin. Have you played it on guitar though? The way it's arranged on the fretboard with a plectrum, you'll find, does work alternate picking fairly effectively.
bearblaster420 3 years ago 2
im not saying that alternate picking wouldn't work. after all i do play the guitar myself. i was arguing that a much more suitable peice would be better. its just my opinion.
kikkom4n 3 years ago 2
Coincidences happen.
Jon00Wesley00Harding 3 years ago
What piece would you recommend?
ricaard 3 years ago
get a room
dooombringerrr 3 years ago 5
I love this!
stevefurey 3 years ago 2
keep playing ... keep playing ... you almost made me cry ...
Electric guitar tone really makes this piece worth a lot to modern music. Who knows what will come next ? 5/5
Eldrian88 4 years ago 3
Who're you telling to keep playing?
Shawn Lane's dead. :(:(:(.
salilacks 4 years ago 2
I... I didn't know. May he Rest in Peace.
Eldrian88 4 years ago 4
I know. He died a few years ago. His music is just... amazing. Peace.
salilacks 4 years ago 3
its by gregoras dinicu not jascha heifetz. heifetz transcribed it.
violaplayer1995 4 years ago 2
Hora Staccato... this is an incredibly hard piece.
1thousandstrats 4 years ago 3
jascha heifetz
scottbos68 4 years ago
i should mention that its a piece by dinicu, the melody is gypsy like
scottbos68 4 years ago 2