I love the statement at the end. 'Sucking dick is legal, so who don't you suck dick?' Best comeback for when people say, 'If all drugs were legal then everyone would do drugs.'
drug user account for over 50% of the crime rate. drug addicts are horrible people who cannot help themselves and are a thorn is sides society. maybe if we legalize murder we wouldn have less crime. if you dont like america....SIMPLY LEAVE. people dont use drugs because a factor is they are illegal and a crime. lets legalize drugs so we can have more junkies fuckers in our society while allowing them to do it. you get a 40oz you know what it does, however drugs dont always have the same effect.
@TheShootTruth10 Had you considered why drug crime statistics are so high? I suspect that if the US were again to criminalize alcoholic beverages, alcohol-related crime statistics would skyrocket. Speaking of which, what can we say about the effects of the Volstead Act on American society? It seems to me that, aside from it's detrimental effect on the economy, it increased the rate of incarceration and gave rise to violent crime and a plethora of criminal organizations. Sound familiar?
@TheShootTruth10 I'm guessing you hadn't read part two to my post. Scroll down.
So, what you're saying thus far is that citizens should be obedient and observe all current laws and statutes, and not question their efficacy or constitutionality. Further, that citizens should not exercise lawful, democratic processes to amend legislation, but rather, those with dissenting opinions should leave the county.
Are you familiar with the tenets of fascism? If not, I suggest you read up.
@DorakoftheHillPeople ok you want to go get a sign and protest but it will not get you anywhere. weed is a gateway drugs for a lot of people. mostly all the dudes I know (huge group of dopes) that I went to school with started with weed. 30% of my graduating class was or is on drugs. all I got to say is this. get out of bed go to the polls and give ron paul your vote and waste your time because his ideas are not even as practicul as obamas. so go to the polls and vote for the wrong person again.
@TheShootTruth10 I should point out a few things. I don't do drugs, I'm not an American citizen, and I don't directly involve myself in the US electoral process. That said, I concede in part to a few of your points. Weed could be a 'gateway drug' for some people, but statistically that's not evident in the majority. And yes, some 'stoners' are dumber than a bag of hammers. But really, what do these apparencies have to do with the issue? Are you suggesting the gov't regulate lifestyle choices?
@DorakoftheHillPeople someone has to tell these american citizens what to do. none of them like authority figures. you need discipline. that why it is called goverment, because they govern you. I had no problem with what they goverment tell me what I can or cant do. the only ones who do and people with authority problems or someone doing something they shouldnt.
@TheShootTruth10 I am under the impression that the US was a Constitutional Republic and Representative Democracy. Implicit in these is that the government is comprised of representative citizens who govern according to consitutional law. Therefore, it seems to me the term 'authority figure' is a misnomer, and the government isn't a 'they', it's a 'we'. There are no authority figures perse, only elected stipendiary agents whose purposefully limited role is to facilitate the will of the people.
@DorakoftheHillPeople It's supposed to be, but bureaucratic (and unelected!) regulatory agencies write laws and assign punishments independently of the legislature and judiciary, in strict defiance of the Constitution. The problem is, government and regulatory bodies cater to special interests so much that they ignore the public interest, which is namely to be free from the interference of government as much as possible, and be free to live their lives in whatever (peaceable) way they want to.
@TheShootTruth10 Are you aware that more than half of all drug arrests in the US are for marijuana? In 2009, nearly 760,000 American citizens were arrested for simple possession (ie, caught with a joint). Do the math. How many $ are expended on the investigation, processing, judicial process, incarceration, and probation, to impose 'justice' on an individual arrested for a two dollar reefer? This is an insane social policy, and fiscally irresponsible to the nth degree.
@jdlhnew I'm not an American. I pay taxes - which I suspect are significantly higher than you'll ever pay - and I'm reasonably satisfied with my gov't's expenditures. I think you misunderstand where I'm at: I'm not promoting a stance, I'm simply engaged in a discussion. I cited one implication within the context of the 'war on drugs', you suggested others. All fair comment. That said, it seems to me that onus of fiscal responsibility falls on those entrusted to manage it. Isn't that the issue?
@jdlhnew I think you've inferred too far. The issue of taxation within the context of the so-called 'war on drugs' was raised, but that speaks to the value and specific use/abuse of revenue, not necessarily the worth of the system. That said, one implication of such a discussion could be tax revolt, which has at times proven to be a useful means of effecting change. If I'm not mistaken, that is precisely what provided the impetus for the creation of your country.
Pretty good and suxer is only thing I can think of immediately, but their inhuman, anti-constitutional and anti-human rights corruption of using our bodies for their pocketbook, could possibly be the answer. They do bad and call it 'good'. Kinda like Hitler who called himself a 'Christian'. Well, that was just a lie.
Well done great video! more noise should be made about the USA's reinvention of the slave trade and the criminalization of society. Perhaps you could highlight the point of "your" three strikes rule as well as the draconian drugs laws. I dislike the comparison of heroin junkies and cock suckers tho! Over 50% of the worlds population are female, and of the remaining 40 odd %, over 10% are gay or bi sexual, so why compare nearly two thirds of the worlds people to those who are addicted to smack?
Your character states @1:54 "...get a real job, pay taxes, and contribute to society". Doesn't this impose a morality of it's own? What is a "real job"? Within this context, it also seems you're implying that paying taxes is a means by which we "contribute to society". Isn't this precisely the mechanism that enables the so-called war on drugs? Aren't taxpayers therefore complicit? Bureaucracies don't wield power as a result of any 'democratic' process, it's derived from cold hard cash.
@PunkRockLibertarian You're characterizations of the justice system and it's bloated institutions are correct. The rates of incarceration and gun crime are testimony to the obscene consequence of America's Draconian drug laws. What a waste of resources and, more importantly, human lives. The alternative paradigm might not be ideal in consideration of the regulatory infrastructure required, but at least it would generate revenue, reduce policing, and potentially it pay it's own way.
Stating that someone should do something is not the same as imposition of morality. If you compel and coerce people to do something, that is imposing it on them. To suggest that something is good, moral or right without forcing it upon people is not the same.
@malagaent "If you compel and coerce people to do something, that is imposing it on them." - malagaent
Yes... like adhering to laws and paying taxes. But imposing morality doesn't necessarily require the force of law. Quite often it's seen as social convention (as determined by cultural, political, or religious bias), and experienced through social pressure. Depending on the context, even a suggestion could constitute an imposition, and pointedly so where action is implied.
Without some sort of coercion or compulsion, it is not an imposition. What you are describing is influence, not imposition. There are many things that influence us to varying degrees. It is up to us to recognize and accept or reject such influences. Specifically, in the original context:
""...get a real job, pay taxes, and contribute to society". Doesn't this impose a morality of it's own?",
this would be influence, not imposition, and barely noticeable at that.
@malagaent "Without some sort of coercion or compulsion, it is not an imposition. What you are describing is influence, not imposition." - malagent
This distinguishment isn't valid. Social convention, political correctness, etc etc, impose value judgements which influence our thinking and behaviour. As you'd suggested, we have the illusion of choice, but our often 'intuitive' socio-political paradigms ensure very real consequences. I'm surprised you'd find this apparency "barely noticable".
@DorakoftheHillPeople While I appreciate the general message of your statement. Isn't it about time we stopped pretending we live in a democracy? Capitalism trumped democracy decades ago.
@UseDaForce I'm wondering if your message was perhaps misdirected. I have no illusions concerning the role of democracy in our respective gov'ts, or indeed the lie of meritocracy. As for capitalism trumping democracy, I think that's certainly true in the US. In that capitalism is not a system of governance, and is currently controlled by a fractional and unregulated oligarchical class subsidized by 'tax incentives', it's present manifestation is not only undemocratic, it is anti-democratic.
While i agree with the argument i dont like the "legalist" sounding of this. This is conservative talk. Its like cock sucking, people will do it even if illegal. A REAL woman dont let others tell her what to do with their mouth, so a REAL libertarian wont give a fuck if something is legal or not, just destroy the "legitimacy" of "the law". To be a punk is to belive in self rule and direct action, on other words "do what your conscience requires, even if illegal, and deal with the consequences".
@AdlerMow -"A REAL woman dont let others tell her what to do with their mouth, so a REAL libertarian wont give a fuck if something is legal or not". That sounds REAL fucking dumb. Many still do drugs but it's retarded not to care if it's legal or not if not for anything more than the sheer fear that the State can kidnap you and throw you in a cage. And they do it all the time! This is Human Rights! Individual Rights! If it's not punk to care about these things... what is "Punk"?
@PunkRockLibertarian Ok, i understand. Im trying to say: the important think is to convince people, especially those that live thogether with you. Because your neighbor can be worst than a cop, cause while cops cant be everywhere, your neigh can call them! Yet, it can be your best friend! He can help you alot! So the deal about making this type of video is convincing people, not pushing for legalization! Think direct action, this is Punk! You are punk, not another fucking lobbyist!
Legal drugs are more dangerous than illegal ones. They are pushed by lobbyists, drug companies and doctors. Some antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts. Some drugs can make people homicidal. And what about vaccines? You could easily say that NOT wanting a vaccine that is pushed so hard on people is proof of ownership of your body. We cannot say what goes in or what does not...well, you can, but they make it really difficult for you if you refuse vaccines.
@alleycatalog Your right about the lobbyists they donate money to the politicians campaign and in exchange the
politicians help the drug companies the immoral ones anyway. I think there needs to a be middle ground on drugs. Right now it seems like the either legalize all drugs or make them all illegal.
Let's face it. Drugs are dangerous. All drugs. If you take an entire bottle of aspirin you will get very sick, and possibly die. People need to be educated about drugs. Dr Alexander Shulgin and his wife, Ann, have written two very good books, PIHKAL and TIHKAL. The government thanked him by raiding his lab and revoking his Schedule I permit. Once people are properly educated on "how" to use drugs, many of the problems will disappear.
Remember: Its not war on drugs, it war against herb. Most or arrest are for simple cannabis possesion arrests. And not only in states. Via OUN they plagued the world with Illegal drugs/Narcotics convetion where they equalize the natural herb and Babylon chemistry.
As for the chemichal death dealers, life imprisonent and forced labour is not a punishment enough for spreading the death to your own brethren and sistren
Places where oral sex is illegal: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Georgia, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C.
People should have the right to be able to put anything they want in their bodies as long as they aren't hurting anyone else or someone elses property. Why do people put up with the government telling them what they can and can't do in their everyday lives? It's time for people to get their pride back and stop asking for permission to do everything. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should say it all!!!
You are just hurling personal insults at EPGAH instead of making any serious counterarguments. Try instead to convey your line of thinking and evidence.
The privatization of our prison system has been a massive failure, and it has escalated the bankrupt "war on drugs." We have now witnessed judges who are guilty of sending more and more juveniles and minor criminals to private prison facilities in exchange for millions under the table.
You are just hurling personal insults at EPGAH instead of making any serious counterarguments. Try instead to convey your line of thinking and evidence.
The privatization of our prison system has been a massive failure, and it has escalated the bankrupt "war on drugs." We have now witnessed judges who are guilty of sending more and more juveniles and minor criminals to private prison facilities in exchange for millions under the table.
I have come up with a compromise to make everybody happy. All the drug addicts, prostitutes, etc. can go live in their own community away from everybody else. With that, they don't even have to come into contact with anybody else.
If there are any Dumb Evil Assholes i.e DEA watching perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us about the rights "Joe Six-Pack' (YOU?) & "'One-Lung Larry" (YOU?) have that 'Tony the Toker' does not? Be sure to enumerate the founding document(s) and don't be a bigger dick than you already are by imply the christian tradition of persecution is a right... instead of just a bad criminal habit! Millions know who the real criminals are in the drug war equation... the prohibitionist and their TOOLS!
The prison system here is a job creator & union-enforced racket. The Dems & some Reps are bought off by law enforcement unions, then Dems turn around & give more rights to criminals than honest citizens, which creates the need for more cops & guards. They spend half their time doing paperwork to get benefits & a slice of pension Ponzi scheme. As for drugs, we live in a welfare state. Pot should be legal, but let's fix education first. Weed won't generate revenue or lay-off union fat-cat burden.
LALALALALALALALAL...hello...how are you..LALALALLALA....It seems Most Indian Immigrants in USA are trading Drugs in Black market , why dont ya stop Immigration..atleast it will jobless rate will decline a bit.
If a guy has some job and family, he doesnt do drugs, Most addicts are the ones who are Jobless...
So stop INDIAN immigration and legalize drugs...then Number of Drug addicts in USA will decline and Jobless claims will even decline
everyone notice, once again it is this negro trying to corrupt our young minds. she wants to legalize drugs and suck cock for them. this video is evidence alone why drugs are illegal. obviously this white isnt interested, probably because he doesnt want an STD.
@crazypants88 Alchole is legal yet people still die every year from throat cancer, liver cancer, drunk driving, and many other ailments that come with alcohol as well as other legal drugs on the market. I do not have pity for people who go out and seek to destroy there bodies for the sake of pleasure. That may not be a bad idea for getting people to come off of drugs, but there is one problem, they go through that when there bodies build tolerance, so they take more to over-come the tolerance.
Thanks for the Friends inviatation PunkRockLibertarian. My comment on the video you posted: "The War on Drugs is a War fought on American soil against American Citizens. No Victim, No Crime!!! "
A good contra propaganda video from "we the people" debunking the government lies and policies concerning their so called "war on drugs". Clear, simple, logical and brought in a funny way.
The Global Legal Criminal Elite only have an interest in maintaining the present drug policy situation
I can't say that I'm totally in favor of legalizing drugs, but I certainly see the logic here. In many cases, the CIA dropped the drugs into the communities, and on some levels, the police are corrupt and in on drugs as well (just like during the Prohibition period).
I can't say that I'm totally in favor of legalizing drugs, but I certainly see the logic here. In many cases, the CIA dropped the drugs into the communities, and on some levels, the police are corrupt and in on drugs as well (just like during the Prohibition period).
@crazypants88 Oh most definitely, people will do what they want, but mass producing something so that people get addicted and O.D. is not the best idea. Why should someone get reparations for putting a harmful substance in their body? That is a frivolous law suit and it what is causing our justice system to collapse. I burnt myself because McDonalds gave me hot coffee! . . . So? Did you ask for cold coffee?
@7thNC But anything can be addictive or at least habit forming.
Honestly by these criteria all but the most healthy foods should be outlawed because eating fatty foods CAN be addictive and you can develop dangerous heart conditions.
People are on average smart enough to care of themselves. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that everyone is an alcoholic, of course there's moderation. Also the reason many illegal drugs cause O.D.'s as much as they do is because it's made so shoddily.
@crazypants88 People O.D. because they get addicted to the illegal substances that have various chemicals in them that cause a false sense of joy, also referred to as getting "high". The state is at its highest when first tried then over time your body builds a tolerance and when trying to achieve that same sense as the first time you use more of the substance resulting in an O.D. The other substances are not quite as addictive, but you they are addictive that is true. Shoddy is not it.
@7thNCtrooper2 No that's not true. I can O.D. on alcohol but I'm not an alcoholic. I can O.D. on heroin but I've never tried it before. You have heard of moonshine right? It's a black market version of alcohol. It's can pretty dangerous and it can make you go blind. But drinking white market alcohol is much safer and if you actually get hurt by drinking it then there's someone to be acountable. Non of that is present in the black market system that you're proposing.
I'm not denying these drugs are addictive. I'm arguing that with legalization they can be made less severe, kind of like they did with alcohol. Also if the drugs are inherently addictive, legalization would still help. If legalized the price would drop as the black market would no longer have a monopoly on it.
That would make it so that addicts would be less likely to commit crimes to feed their habits. Also differing levels of potency could be develop to help people slowly get off the drug.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome That's only because other countries kill their criminals, or work them to death. Here in America, we whine about having too many criminals, but we have also the softest prisons in the world, more like 3-4-star country clubs for queers than the concrete subsistence boxes they are in other countries.
America has more prisoners than THE REST OF tEH WORLD PUT TOGETHER.
YOu have more prisoners than CHINA, even though china is 3 times the population of america. You have more than russia, and you execute more people than Saudi Arabia, or ANYONE else in the world !
Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome "Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !"
That's not entirely true.. He pardoned a serial killer (lots of implications it seems). While refusing to pardon a lady who had been abused by her husband for decades until she snapped and freed herself.
@Kenzofeis I was upset myself when the Governor of Missouri killed a guy who was cleaning up his neighborhood, killing drug-dealers--after they killed his son. To add insult to injury, the Pope came to Missouri and asked BY NAME for the man to be pardoned, the Governor agreed--then executed him as soon as the Pope left! I'm not sure if that was cowardice or betrayal?
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome "Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !"
That's not entirely true.. He pardoned a serial killer (lots of implications it seems). While refusing to pardon a lady who had been abused by her husband for decades until she snapped and freed herself.
They do say that you can judge a nation, by the way it treats its criminals. Did you know that in the UK, EVERY prisoner gets a television in his cell, and a kettle ? That is his RIGHT, in prison. If they dont do that, you can sue them !
Police here, are absolute gobyy fuckin wankers, and they lie through their teeth, in court. They are complete SCUM. Same for lawyers and judges, too.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome You really shouldn't use China as an example, they make their felons WORK. If they don't FEEL like working, they become spare-parts for the honest Chinese citizens, and/or for sale abroad.
Why should criminals get TV?! That just makes it more expensive, and heck, might be a good deal for scum to pull some minor crime, get put into jail for guaranteed shelter and TV that the honest chumps have to pay for.
Here in America, criminals get gyms, cable TV, and free food.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome (Continued) And they're STILL ungrateful for it! We have criminals suing that their cells are too small, that their TV doesn't get enough channels, and even that they get too small of portions of cake at the prison cafeteria!
Also, I find it odd that you are focusing on the mere NUMBER of criminals executed, rather than PROPORTION.
Think of prison as sending a disobedient brat to their room. But if their room has cable, XBOX, free college, etc., that's not a punishment!
Your thinking is WAY off, old boy. For a sart, prison cells ARE overcrowded. They have 3 or sometimes 4 men (in britain), in a cell designed for ONE.
A cell is only the size of a medium/small bedroom, and there is a toilet, sink and 2 beds (bunk beds, if its a really overcrowded one) in it, and 3 or 4 men who dont know each other.
The tv ALWAYS tells you they are "spoiled", but its not the case. Anyone who tells you prison is easy, is lying. Its tollerable, but NOT easy.
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I worked in a prison for 2 years. Are you essentially telling me to believe YOU instead of what I saw?
Why should we try to make it any more comfortable? It's supposed to be a confinement/punishment, not subsidized housing. (Although more and more, it's starting to become the latter)
If prison's so horrible, why aren't criminals changing behavior pattern to stay out of it? Also, compare American prisons to any other in the world. China's are the worst, but there are others!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Remember also, in MOST states, we don't have chain-gangs anymore, the thugs are not forced to work for the country they tried to undermine. Instead, they demand exercise rooms and free-weights which can be used as weapons (And have been!).
Why not give them their exercise by making them perform some unskilled, labor-intensive task, like cleaning trash at the sides of roads or pounding rocks into gravel? (Cliche as hell, but effective at tiring them out)
Because then they would gain friends, in ANYONE who may fall foul of that system, themselves.
For instance, if a kid gets caught fighting a couple of times, as a teenager, he will recognise that he too may some day be on your "chain gang", and so he will be more likely to protect himself, by joining your enemies (whoever they are).
Also, they do say you can judge anation by how it treats its prisoners - and YOU are quite typical, with the "grinding rock" theory, so oyu should thinkmore
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I realize that criminals will find friends among other criminals, that's fairly obvious.
What I was saying, though, is that ways should be found to prevent criminals from having enough energy left to riot or cause other troubles. Free-weights and other "civilized" exercise implements are too easily used as weapons. As a bonus, making the criminals work would teach them a trade, as well as getting some necessary repair work done. There's a lot of bridges that need repairing!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome And yes, I DO realize the irony of using work as a punishment, but it's better than just letting them sit there, their housing, food, TV, and even Internet paid for by the honest people.
I think the best way to judge a civilization is the difference between how it treats its criminals, and how it treats its honest people--HOPEFULLY the latter will be treated better, instead of forced to subsidize criminals having a better life than the honest poor folk!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Even without forcing them to work, we could take out some of the amenities of prisons, but that's been tried before, and every time, someone says, "WAH! You're making life worse for the criminals!"--even though that's kind of the idea.
I don't know about Britain, but here in America, some people are committing crimes just SO they can get into jail, and avoid being homeless!
We coddle criminals too much and spend not enough on honest citizens!
Well, so far you've brought back slavery, starved people until they are so weak they cant be any trouble (concentration camps), and suggesting removing anything they may find beneficial or time occupying (mental torture).
Perhaps you should just come out and admit it - you would KILL all prisoners, and save the time and money of locking them up, wouldn't you ?
Of course, todays prison guard, is tomorrows prisoner (e.g. the nazis), so you just carry on shouting off your extremist views
But one thing you're forgetting with your little slavery quip: Every amenity the criminals get, I have to pay for. Put another way, a portion of my work goes to letting THEM live better.
Doesn't that make me THEIR slave, in real terms?
We've gone from "He Who Does Not Work Shall Not Eat" (John Smith), to "Work Is For Chumps" (Inmate's soapbox rant about how much better criminals have it than Americans--and he's not far wrong!)
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Also, if it's so important that criminals be fed, shouldn't their families, or anyone who feels sorry for them feed them instead of the hardworking chumps--I mean taxpayers? And I promise not to stop you from paying for them getting Internet or Cable TV, I just don't want to subsidize that!
Otherwise, what is the difference between a prison and a taxpayer supported hotel?
One route that was already successfully tried in "real" life is giving criminals military rations!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome All rhetoric aside, though, prison is supposed to be the equivalent of a society saying "Go To Your Room" and/or "grounding" them.
Therefore, their time should be "occupied" with thinking of what they did wrong, and repenting. Anything that distracts from that undermines the premise of punishment!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome To plagiarize DOW's old ad-campaign, "We Fight Hard So YOU Don't Have To"
Or George Orwell, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because Rough Men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
They're talking about the military, the police, the dedicated castes who fight. Plus, name any dictator or criminal who stopped because they were confronted with words, "Hold! What you are doing is wrong!"
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Modern military is nothing like the old military, which is why I--and a lot of others--left: They no longer fight to WIN, because a stalemate is too profitable for the companies. I would not be surprised if they were selling ammo&weapons to both sides, just to keep it going!
If we fought smart, like WWII, we would've taken over the oilfields, and they would run out of AK&C4, and have to poke at the Civilized World with sticks&stones--we might be able to ignore them!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Conversely, if we fought WWII the way we "fight" the terrorists, we would have declared certain Nazi buildings sacrosanct because they were civilian installations, like churches, City Halls, power plants...The Nazis would've recognized our self-inflicted blind-spots and holed up there, killing the Allies with complete impunity!
Or if the media back then had responded so tearfully everytime we killed a Nazi, the soldiers would have defected in brigade strength!
@Houshalter It would only be justifiable if they quit whining about civilian casualties when the Civilized World strikes back. If a country, from Somalia to Japan, is Tough Enough to fight the Civilized World, they should be tough enough to take the consequences! Or maybe Americans should stop fighting and just whine that the terrorists aren't playing fair? Do you think that will stop them?
@EPGAH, ok. The next time someone gets murdered, we'll burn down the whole town and slaughter everyone if we can't find out who did it. After all, they should be tough enough to take the consequences!
As for the war on terror, it's a joke. A few radicals attacked civilians 10 years ago because the US government was funding their enemy, that also happened to be killing lots of civilians. So the US responded by invading two completely unrelated countries that happen to have alot of oil.
@Houshalter If we were going to invade a country that had oil, we should have invaded Mexico or Saudi Arabia. (Mexican cartel terrorists, BTW, have killed more Americans than Iraq and Afghanistan casualties COMBINED!
Please show me that oil, though...Where's the free oil and cheap gas? Oh, that's right, China swooped in at the last moment and snaked the oil out from under us, without counting its value against our debt, or even saying, "Thanks for keeping the terrorists busy, chumps!"
@EPGAH, what are you even talking about? Look, I don't care what you believe. If you believe you are some how magically justified to use violence against innocent people, don't be suprised when they fight back and when civilized society ostracizes you.
Say this to yourself until you understand it: "There is no such thing as terrorists".
@Houshalter I view it the other way around: If they can blow us up, we can blow them up harder...You know, like Japan's little "Warning Shot" to warn us NOT to interfere with their Imperial Ambitions in the South Pacific? Which actually brought us INTO the war, and ended with us kicking their ass!
If someone attacks America, kills our people, kills our soldiers, they should expect us to fight back.
If there's no such thing as terrorists, explain the Kenyan Embassy or USS Cole?
@EPGAH You view it from the "Saturday night cowboy" POV, booze and whores, blasting guns, and yelling yihaa and everything is so simple.
How could the japanese task force even get to attack Pearl Harbour?
Then, your "kicking ass" was using two japanese towns as testing grounds for "The destroyer of worlds" killing and harming lots and lots of people who had no interest in harming anyone - even future generations was harmed, as is a common outcome of wars. How about Dresden?
@Kenzofeis Dresden was organized around a MUNITIONS FACTORY!
As to Hiroshima, it was a war factory, and Nagasaki was a shipyard for making warships. People in the town HAD to know what they were building there, right? Either that, or tanks, planes, bombs, and warships came from the Munitions Fairies, which no country before or since has been able to summon.
If America could summon these Munitions Fairies, we'd save billions of dollars.
@Kenzofeis However, that aside, Japan had to make a conscious choice, then an EFFORT to cross the Pacific to "warn" us, and then giving us a verbal "warning" 24 hours later, made it sound like gloating.
Strategically, it was as big an error as shooting a cop to "warn" them not to interfere with your bank-robbery.
They would've gotten away with it if they hadn't poked us!
Most Americans were perfectly happy to just sell weapons to England and France and our other fair-weather Allies!
@EPGAH, your philosophy is so backwards, so ancient. The result of one military force killing masses of civilians results in the other side retaliating and doing the same. Then before you know it you have hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths and eternal war for no other reason then for one tryant to gain more prestige and respect over the other while shifting the tremendous costs of his actions onto his slaves and populace, even if they didn't consent.
@EPGAH, your philosophy is so backwards, so ancient. The result of one military force killing masses of civilians results in the other side retaliating and doing the same. Then before you know it you have hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths and eternal war for no other reason then for one tryant to gain more prestige and respect over the other while shifting the tremendous costs of his actions onto his slaves and populace, even if they didn't consent.
@Houshalter Actually, the American war attitude has been terrorizing peoples for decades. Even watching American News on TV terrifies me. But you're right. The terrorists that homeland security is protecting us from don't exist. That stupid bit of powder in a cartridge on a courier plane from Yemen was a bogus set-up to send war ships to the Gulf. Bogus! Now US soldiers are tasked to grow 'n ship lg quantities of poppy (heroine) home from Afghanistan, but joe citizen is jailed for weed?
@Janicide Considering that China was hooked on Opium for decades, you'd think they'd move to CRUSH the heroin trade: Heroin is just super-concentrated Opium.
The only problem with drugs that I can see is that while ON drugs, people go out and do stupid things that DO affect stupid people, their inhibitions removed, inhibitions lowered--and sometimes no pain response either!
A facility for doing drugs would be one option, clamped to the wall until the effects subsided, can't hurt anyone?
@EPGAH The heroine trade is worth trillions of dollars! The Taliban used to oversee the production and shipping but since they've been chased-off, now our soldiers have taken over. The USA really wants that money and as far as supply and demand goes, the American people have a huge demand for it. You're right, it's a very serious drug meant to be administered in a facility, like a hospital.
@EPGAH I've done just about every drug there is and many times and it's usual that one doesn't really want to go anywhere when on them, your either to paranoid or just spaced-out or at best you just end up listening to jazz or something.
And the thought of fighting is horrifying when stoned.
@Janicide, I totally agree. You're more likely to get hit by lightening then a terrorist. The costs of "preventing terrorism" are very real, they lead to the deaths of many innocent people, restrictions of liberties, trillions upon trillions of dollars, and in the end there is little evidence to show they have achieved anything. In fact, by occupying other countries we've created the disorder that fuels their movement. Why do so many people not understand this? What will the history books say?
@Houshalter The history books will say "The United States of America was a supra-nation/empire that was founded on July 4th, 1776, and lasted until the mid-21st century, when it crumbled under its own weight due to militarism and internal decay. Once known as a peaceable and humble nation of liberty-minded individuals, it turned to government control of everything and world imperialism after World War II to perpetuate and fund its ever-increasing public-sector/welfare/warfare machine," etc.
@Houshalter Your town analogy is flawed. This would be more like some thugs blow up City Hall or some other Historical Landmark building, and because "Stop Snitchin" has evolved into a merchandising campaign, the thugs don't want to point out the guilty party and hand them over with a bow and optionally a side of bacon, so we bomb the whole slum section of town--except, we don't, we send in cops to try to drive the criminals out, and wonder why the locals help the thugs kill the cops!
@Houshalter You're right the war on terrorists IS a joke, but not for the reasons you think: We have the firepower to bomb the hell out of the terrorist countries almost the way you describe, but instead we send in ground troops, and the terrorists kill them, believing (not necessarily incorrectly) that they're some sort of sacrifice to their bloodthirsty cult!
This "war" should've been entirely one-sided, instead X thousand Americans died needlessly. Pick your favorite number for X!
You make it sound like they are uncivilized, but they where "civilized" while "western" people practically waded in shit in the streets and died like flies from cholera and infections, and there was terror from above so people cheered when *someone else* were "chosen" to be murdered in bestial ways.
Somalias coast has been a dumping ground for waste (including toxic) and their fish was depleted.
Their only coast guard is their socalled "pirates".
@Kenzofeis By wading in shit, do you mean our overcrowded cities in the 1800s? Please tell what time-period you're talking about, because "civilization" is a sliding scale. At one point, Africans were actually thought to be advanced, then the rest of the world blew past them.
As to Somalia, I know that the pirates were their perversion of a Coast Guard, BUT how could they have confused a passenger liner or UN Aid ship for a toxic chemical freighter? Unless they were only out to rob?
@Houshalter Please note, though, as I said before, the Civilized World hits military targets that happen to be among civilian targets, while the terrorists strike civilian targets that are way far away from any military targets.
The whole city of Hiroshima was a war factory, just about, Nagasaki was a shipyard for warships. Even the most delusional Conspiracy Theorist hasn't found "proof" of a hidden weapons shop in the Twin Towers or Kenya Embassy!
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Honestly, other than the homosexual rapes, criminals live better than some lower-class honest people!
Also, unlike other countries, America gives criminals unlimited appeals. There are cases of people on Death Row for DECADES, rather than just being killed, because they keep dragging it out with frivolous appeals. How many times should a person be found guilty before we're allowed to execute them?
Also remember, America is used as penal colony by Mexico&co., so there's that
i agree with every thing said in this video but even dick sucking is illegal in some states as well as sodomy there for going along with the property argument
@NihilistMonk You see I am glad you finally revealed yourself. I knew you where there the whole time hiding under some equality charade, I hoped against hope that I was wrong about you, but you are what I thought you are, and as far as your question goes you have no right to determine what is fair until you put your son to die on a cross, until that day where you give up your son to save all of mankind, it is best that you not speak on matters you cannot comprehend. Goodbye, I am done!
what are talking about you started talking about jesus first, to which i than said that jesus simply didn't make a difference in this matter. and than you threw in once again that god said what not to do to which i once again said it made little difference. not to mention that your post said that these people who do drugs must not have jesus in their lives which is ridiculous and it seemed to suggest that without god you cannot be good which is a delusion many people think.
@NihilistMonk What I am talking about is that I knew what kind of person you are because I have had this same conversation different face, different time, but same demon. G-d did not break his laws, you can't prove that you are just trying to make me angry demon, and I will not listen to your empty worlds, as I am sure will not listen to mine as that is what you have been doing. To sum this all up you have lied about what I said and personally attacked my belief, yet you call me the monster.
i havent called you anything except a christian, and i can quote what you said unless you removed your posts im not twisting it, it is actually what you said.
than you said that anarchy wouldnt fix anything even though we werent talking about that but rather that drugs should be legal. laws changing is a regular thing it has nothing to do with anarchy. and the simple fact remains that people like yourself try to impose your morals on us which is against the constitution. and heres another debate that is overused, if i cant comprehend it you cant either. it is obvious you havent even read the bible at all.
@NihilistMonk First of all I said I am done with it, Second of all you are falsely accusing me of having malicious intent. You are also saying things that I did not say, and yes I have read the Bible the whole Bible which is more then I could say for you, nice job cherry picking the verses, you must have done this enough that it already well rehearsed in your head. Third I claimed that I am not forcing any of my opinions on anyone, but you didn't bother to read that.
i didnt say you had malicious intent, and no i havent read the whole bible just a few books still working on it though. those verses i do have written down however as well as a few more its much easier than looking for them within my bible. and i did read that, im not forcing mine on anyone either just simply stating them.. also i am not trying to come across as attacking i am just trying to respond to your posts feel free to stop.
as for hypocrite, well god himself brakes quite a few of the commandments including lying, adultery, murder, as well as being a jealous god (coveting) also Matt 5:18-19 says that nothing of the old testament will change just in case some says the old testament doesn't count. there those are your and gods standards.
@NihilistMonk What a waste of potential that you would use anger to search for scripture, but you will not search to find truth. Do you know why every time you pick up that Bible you don't see truth? You don't want to see it, so you create and alternate truth, also known as a lie, and then you try to convince me that it is sane and coherent.
i see now that i can come across that way but as i just said above i am not trying to attack just rebuke. the reason i read the bible is because all religious history aside all chrisitans try to do their best to be good people and i am just trying to understand how this book motivates that.
using god as a way to determine laws is in my opinion is a bad idea that is all i was trying to convey, this should not have anything to do if i "comprehend" how he sacrifice himself to himself to make a loophole for a rule he made. also nice dismissive completely avoid my question and call me stupid, how christian of you. if you dont want to listen to what people have to say then dont post, its youtube and we can all say whatever we want here. so troll face indeed
@NihilistMonk No loophole he just sent his son as the ultimate sacrifice, instead of us preparing a new sacrifice every year. We can't even change the channel without a remote, so how could we possibly follow the guidelines to a sacrifice ritual? G-d gave us all a chance, so take it or leave it either way. Either way, you have no one to blame but yourself. Also to add about the jealous G-d line, jealousy is not a sin, coveting is and that is about as close to jealousy as it gets.
yes it was a loophole, that is the definition i believe. god made a law where we had to present sacrifices for our sins and to get out of this law he sacrifice his son which as said was himself in human form, thats what the trinity says i think all one entity but 3 at the same time with the holy spirit. i thought coveting was being jealous or rather wanting something that someone else has, is it not?
@NihilistMonk No, coveting is wanting somehting you can not have, or you do not posses. Wanting a car is not evil, wanting your neighbors car is evil becuase it leads to stealing. A loop hole would mean that G-d did something underhanded when infact he made his son the ultimate sacrifice for all our sins, the rules are still the same. The spotless lamb's blood covered our sins. Why would I want to continue an arguement?
@NihilistMonk as for your remarks about me being a troll, I wouldn't expect nothing less. This video was sent to me by the creator of it, in a message. It is a video about a controversial subject so he is indeed the troll if anyone. Nice try though, and uh, stop acting like a child with the name calling and grow up. Lets face it you didn't want to hear and answer anyway, you just wanted me to be stumped and then you would harass me.
no actually i was saying that i was more being the troll, for i am the one who furthers the conversation. of course this wasnt meant in a bad way at all because being a troll isnt a bad thing. also no im not trying to stump you i am just conversing, i accept that my lack of belief could be totally wrong. also i dont believe i have called you a name like i said before could you show me where i dont see it. also if you wish we can continue this through pm's
@NihilistMonk Look, lets leave it at this maybe we can both walk away from this satisfied, I am a Christian and I believe that drugs are wrong and immoral, you disagree with me, in America that is perfectly acceptable, so lets live out the rest of our lives knowing we both strongly believe what we choose to believe. Fair enough?
Hardcore punk rock started in L.A. and it was always about libertarian/say whatever you want viewpoints without any big govt pc bullshit or stupid unconstitutional hate laws.
Check out the things they'd do for fun in this video lofl.
No one here has to agree with me, but I just stated my belief and that is all I wanted to do, so please do not take it personal if you disagree with me because I do not take it personal if you choose to not believe what I believe. I have seen too much damage and heart ache done by drugs and legalizing them will not eliminate that heart ache it will spread it, so that all may know the pain that I know of a loved one losing there selves, losing who they where to a demon . . . a monster.
@crazypants88 By the way I am against alcohol too, I have seen it take too many lives even after it was legalized. Pharmaceutical drugs, which is to say legal ones are still addictive and people still get hooked on them, and it will be the same for legalizing the rest of the drugs in the world. You would only be trading one problem for another, and in most cases an identical result.
@7thNCtrooper2 result maybe similar but in the long run people would love their freedom and understand self responsibility! Government speedup their soft kill last year of doubling or tripling Methadone Treatment Clinics.One person who was recovering alcoholic, all he needed is someone to testify that he ha
Love this one, especially the end
excurrahee 2 months ago
I love the statement at the end. 'Sucking dick is legal, so who don't you suck dick?' Best comeback for when people say, 'If all drugs were legal then everyone would do drugs.'
freedomwv 2 months ago
Wow...no bull shit! No victim...no crime.
texaswoodsmith 4 months ago
Beer was my gateway drug in the 70's. The legal stuff sold at every street corner.
browsemusicvideos 4 months ago
no one want to respect authority figures in america. fuck everyone who likes the video.
TheShootTruth10 5 months ago
drug user account for over 50% of the crime rate. drug addicts are horrible people who cannot help themselves and are a thorn is sides society. maybe if we legalize murder we wouldn have less crime. if you dont like america....SIMPLY LEAVE. people dont use drugs because a factor is they are illegal and a crime. lets legalize drugs so we can have more junkies fuckers in our society while allowing them to do it. you get a 40oz you know what it does, however drugs dont always have the same effect.
TheShootTruth10 5 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 Had you considered why drug crime statistics are so high? I suspect that if the US were again to criminalize alcoholic beverages, alcohol-related crime statistics would skyrocket. Speaking of which, what can we say about the effects of the Volstead Act on American society? It seems to me that, aside from it's detrimental effect on the economy, it increased the rate of incarceration and gave rise to violent crime and a plethora of criminal organizations. Sound familiar?
DorakoftheHillPeople 5 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople who cares. it is against the law. go to another country is you want to smoke weed were it is legal.
TheShootTruth10 5 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 I'm guessing you hadn't read part two to my post. Scroll down.
So, what you're saying thus far is that citizens should be obedient and observe all current laws and statutes, and not question their efficacy or constitutionality. Further, that citizens should not exercise lawful, democratic processes to amend legislation, but rather, those with dissenting opinions should leave the county.
Are you familiar with the tenets of fascism? If not, I suggest you read up.
DorakoftheHillPeople 5 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople ok you want to go get a sign and protest but it will not get you anywhere. weed is a gateway drugs for a lot of people. mostly all the dudes I know (huge group of dopes) that I went to school with started with weed. 30% of my graduating class was or is on drugs. all I got to say is this. get out of bed go to the polls and give ron paul your vote and waste your time because his ideas are not even as practicul as obamas. so go to the polls and vote for the wrong person again.
TheShootTruth10 5 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 I should point out a few things. I don't do drugs, I'm not an American citizen, and I don't directly involve myself in the US electoral process. That said, I concede in part to a few of your points. Weed could be a 'gateway drug' for some people, but statistically that's not evident in the majority. And yes, some 'stoners' are dumber than a bag of hammers. But really, what do these apparencies have to do with the issue? Are you suggesting the gov't regulate lifestyle choices?
DorakoftheHillPeople 5 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople someone has to tell these american citizens what to do. none of them like authority figures. you need discipline. that why it is called goverment, because they govern you. I had no problem with what they goverment tell me what I can or cant do. the only ones who do and people with authority problems or someone doing something they shouldnt.
TheShootTruth10 5 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 I am under the impression that the US was a Constitutional Republic and Representative Democracy. Implicit in these is that the government is comprised of representative citizens who govern according to consitutional law. Therefore, it seems to me the term 'authority figure' is a misnomer, and the government isn't a 'they', it's a 'we'. There are no authority figures perse, only elected stipendiary agents whose purposefully limited role is to facilitate the will of the people.
DorakoftheHillPeople 5 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople It's supposed to be, but bureaucratic (and unelected!) regulatory agencies write laws and assign punishments independently of the legislature and judiciary, in strict defiance of the Constitution. The problem is, government and regulatory bodies cater to special interests so much that they ignore the public interest, which is namely to be free from the interference of government as much as possible, and be free to live their lives in whatever (peaceable) way they want to.
theyoungmrt 3 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 Are you aware that more than half of all drug arrests in the US are for marijuana? In 2009, nearly 760,000 American citizens were arrested for simple possession (ie, caught with a joint). Do the math. How many $ are expended on the investigation, processing, judicial process, incarceration, and probation, to impose 'justice' on an individual arrested for a two dollar reefer? This is an insane social policy, and fiscally irresponsible to the nth degree.
DorakoftheHillPeople 5 months ago
2:05 till the end is PRICELESS.
Antrizzle2009 6 months ago
"Hmmm, I see your point."
dbw11783 6 months ago
@jdlhnew I'm not an American. I pay taxes - which I suspect are significantly higher than you'll ever pay - and I'm reasonably satisfied with my gov't's expenditures. I think you misunderstand where I'm at: I'm not promoting a stance, I'm simply engaged in a discussion. I cited one implication within the context of the 'war on drugs', you suggested others. All fair comment. That said, it seems to me that onus of fiscal responsibility falls on those entrusted to manage it. Isn't that the issue?
DorakoftheHillPeople 7 months ago
@jdlhnew I think you've inferred too far. The issue of taxation within the context of the so-called 'war on drugs' was raised, but that speaks to the value and specific use/abuse of revenue, not necessarily the worth of the system. That said, one implication of such a discussion could be tax revolt, which has at times proven to be a useful means of effecting change. If I'm not mistaken, that is precisely what provided the impetus for the creation of your country.
DorakoftheHillPeople 7 months ago
Pretty good and suxer is only thing I can think of immediately, but their inhuman, anti-constitutional and anti-human rights corruption of using our bodies for their pocketbook, could possibly be the answer. They do bad and call it 'good'. Kinda like Hitler who called himself a 'Christian'. Well, that was just a lie.
Licmycat 7 months ago
"cock sucker" - it has such an eloquent sound to it
clint0nify 7 months ago
America is a failed project. New world order is a failed project. The only true freedom has no rules. Be prepared its coming.
kmitchem4 8 months ago
@GreenDay00926
Drugs like marijuana aren't very harmful but cocaine and heroin?
rebelq1 8 months ago
Well done great video! more noise should be made about the USA's reinvention of the slave trade and the criminalization of society. Perhaps you could highlight the point of "your" three strikes rule as well as the draconian drugs laws. I dislike the comparison of heroin junkies and cock suckers tho! Over 50% of the worlds population are female, and of the remaining 40 odd %, over 10% are gay or bi sexual, so why compare nearly two thirds of the worlds people to those who are addicted to smack?
thecrazychef1 9 months ago
Your character states @1:54 "...get a real job, pay taxes, and contribute to society". Doesn't this impose a morality of it's own? What is a "real job"? Within this context, it also seems you're implying that paying taxes is a means by which we "contribute to society". Isn't this precisely the mechanism that enables the so-called war on drugs? Aren't taxpayers therefore complicit? Bureaucracies don't wield power as a result of any 'democratic' process, it's derived from cold hard cash.
DorakoftheHillPeople 11 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople -I agree w/ you 100 percent. That is actually the one part of this video I would rewrite. :)
PunkRockLibertarian 11 months ago 7
@PunkRockLibertarian You're characterizations of the justice system and it's bloated institutions are correct. The rates of incarceration and gun crime are testimony to the obscene consequence of America's Draconian drug laws. What a waste of resources and, more importantly, human lives. The alternative paradigm might not be ideal in consideration of the regulatory infrastructure required, but at least it would generate revenue, reduce policing, and potentially it pay it's own way.
DorakoftheHillPeople 11 months ago 6
@DorakoftheHillPeople -Excellent Point!!!
PunkRockLibertarian 11 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople
Stating that someone should do something is not the same as imposition of morality. If you compel and coerce people to do something, that is imposing it on them. To suggest that something is good, moral or right without forcing it upon people is not the same.
malagaent 8 months ago
@malagaent "If you compel and coerce people to do something, that is imposing it on them." - malagaent
Yes... like adhering to laws and paying taxes. But imposing morality doesn't necessarily require the force of law. Quite often it's seen as social convention (as determined by cultural, political, or religious bias), and experienced through social pressure. Depending on the context, even a suggestion could constitute an imposition, and pointedly so where action is implied.
DorakoftheHillPeople 8 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople
Without some sort of coercion or compulsion, it is not an imposition. What you are describing is influence, not imposition. There are many things that influence us to varying degrees. It is up to us to recognize and accept or reject such influences. Specifically, in the original context:
""...get a real job, pay taxes, and contribute to society". Doesn't this impose a morality of it's own?",
this would be influence, not imposition, and barely noticeable at that.
malagaent 8 months ago
@malagaent "Without some sort of coercion or compulsion, it is not an imposition. What you are describing is influence, not imposition." - malagent
This distinguishment isn't valid. Social convention, political correctness, etc etc, impose value judgements which influence our thinking and behaviour. As you'd suggested, we have the illusion of choice, but our often 'intuitive' socio-political paradigms ensure very real consequences. I'm surprised you'd find this apparency "barely noticable".
DorakoftheHillPeople 8 months ago
@DorakoftheHillPeople While I appreciate the general message of your statement. Isn't it about time we stopped pretending we live in a democracy? Capitalism trumped democracy decades ago.
UseDaForce 6 months ago
@UseDaForce I'm wondering if your message was perhaps misdirected. I have no illusions concerning the role of democracy in our respective gov'ts, or indeed the lie of meritocracy. As for capitalism trumping democracy, I think that's certainly true in the US. In that capitalism is not a system of governance, and is currently controlled by a fractional and unregulated oligarchical class subsidized by 'tax incentives', it's present manifestation is not only undemocratic, it is anti-democratic.
DorakoftheHillPeople 6 months ago
While i agree with the argument i dont like the "legalist" sounding of this. This is conservative talk. Its like cock sucking, people will do it even if illegal. A REAL woman dont let others tell her what to do with their mouth, so a REAL libertarian wont give a fuck if something is legal or not, just destroy the "legitimacy" of "the law". To be a punk is to belive in self rule and direct action, on other words "do what your conscience requires, even if illegal, and deal with the consequences".
AdlerMow 11 months ago
@AdlerMow -"A REAL woman dont let others tell her what to do with their mouth, so a REAL libertarian wont give a fuck if something is legal or not". That sounds REAL fucking dumb. Many still do drugs but it's retarded not to care if it's legal or not if not for anything more than the sheer fear that the State can kidnap you and throw you in a cage. And they do it all the time! This is Human Rights! Individual Rights! If it's not punk to care about these things... what is "Punk"?
PunkRockLibertarian 11 months ago 5
@PunkRockLibertarian Ok, i understand. Im trying to say: the important think is to convince people, especially those that live thogether with you. Because your neighbor can be worst than a cop, cause while cops cant be everywhere, your neigh can call them! Yet, it can be your best friend! He can help you alot! So the deal about making this type of video is convincing people, not pushing for legalization! Think direct action, this is Punk! You are punk, not another fucking lobbyist!
AdlerMow 11 months ago
GUY: "But wait a minute! If drugs were legal, everyone would do drugs!"
GIRL: "Sucking dick is legal... why don't you suck dick?"
GUY: "!!! - I don't want to be a cock-sucker!"
GIRL: "You probably don't want to be a heroine junkie either."
GUY: "Hmm... I see your point."
Common sense for the win!!! >:-D
NemaselsNeo 11 months ago 4
This sounds kind of retarded! Cocaine and heroin legal?
I don't think that you can just let people harm themselves!
rebelq1 11 months ago 2
It should be legalized but then wouldn't it have to be made illegal to do drugs at work. Some those drug can effect how well someone works.
Lelouch21000 11 months ago
2:06 = LULZ so true...
TheTroubadourPariah 1 year ago
Legal drugs are more dangerous than illegal ones. They are pushed by lobbyists, drug companies and doctors. Some antidepressants cause suicidal thoughts. Some drugs can make people homicidal. And what about vaccines? You could easily say that NOT wanting a vaccine that is pushed so hard on people is proof of ownership of your body. We cannot say what goes in or what does not...well, you can, but they make it really difficult for you if you refuse vaccines.
alleycatalog 1 year ago
@alleycatalog Your right about the lobbyists they donate money to the politicians campaign and in exchange the
politicians help the drug companies the immoral ones anyway. I think there needs to a be middle ground on drugs. Right now it seems like the either legalize all drugs or make them all illegal.
Lelouch21000 11 months ago
Let's face it. Drugs are dangerous. All drugs. If you take an entire bottle of aspirin you will get very sick, and possibly die. People need to be educated about drugs. Dr Alexander Shulgin and his wife, Ann, have written two very good books, PIHKAL and TIHKAL. The government thanked him by raiding his lab and revoking his Schedule I permit. Once people are properly educated on "how" to use drugs, many of the problems will disappear.
ELIMINATE SCHEDULE I AND II CLASSIFICATIONS.
mikemat3307 1 year ago 3
Is prison labor taking our jobs? Drug-free by choice.
themanyone 1 year ago
Remember: Its not war on drugs, it war against herb. Most or arrest are for simple cannabis possesion arrests. And not only in states. Via OUN they plagued the world with Illegal drugs/Narcotics convetion where they equalize the natural herb and Babylon chemistry.
As for the chemichal death dealers, life imprisonent and forced labour is not a punishment enough for spreading the death to your own brethren and sistren
vojinvidanovic79 1 year ago
Places where oral sex is illegal: Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Georgia, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C.
bilofkwf 1 year ago
What's the problem with cock suckers? Every cock needs to be sucked.
tubetib 1 year ago 2
People should have the right to be able to put anything they want in their bodies as long as they aren't hurting anyone else or someone elses property. Why do people put up with the government telling them what they can and can't do in their everyday lives? It's time for people to get their pride back and stop asking for permission to do everything. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness should say it all!!!
enslavedatbirth 1 year ago 2
Well done-- It's a comment on the state of things when this video gets 13,000 views and "Woman Farts in Pool" jumps to 11 MILLION overnight.
JimmyDeLocke 1 year ago
BTW, did you know ... sucking dick is not legal in a couple of the states. Oral sex, like anal sex, is considered sodomy, and you could go to jail.
Janicide 1 year ago
gay.
sabres220 1 year ago
I see your point :-)
charlessmyth 1 year ago
There's one flaw in this argument. Most of the people who are uptight about legalization of drugs probably do want to be cock suckers.
mrplow8 1 year ago 21
The right claims to be for small government but, the war on drugs expands government.
schiessl 1 year ago
Haha, I love the ending. Me neither, I still love my girlfriend :P
b07rivera 1 year ago
@annoyingTypoSyndrome
You are just hurling personal insults at EPGAH instead of making any serious counterarguments. Try instead to convey your line of thinking and evidence.
The privatization of our prison system has been a massive failure, and it has escalated the bankrupt "war on drugs." We have now witnessed judges who are guilty of sending more and more juveniles and minor criminals to private prison facilities in exchange for millions under the table.
roberttschaefer 1 year ago
@annoyingTypoSyndrome
You are just hurling personal insults at EPGAH instead of making any serious counterarguments. Try instead to convey your line of thinking and evidence.
The privatization of our prison system has been a massive failure, and it has escalated the bankrupt "war on drugs." We have now witnessed judges who are guilty of sending more and more juveniles and minor criminals to private prison facilities in exchange for millions under the table.
roberttschaefer 1 year ago
hahahaha sucking dic is legal so why dont you suck dic ? hahaha funny and true haha
brownfredster 1 year ago
I have come up with a compromise to make everybody happy. All the drug addicts, prostitutes, etc. can go live in their own community away from everybody else. With that, they don't even have to come into contact with anybody else.
Katluver1991 1 year ago
@Katluver1991 Except all the so called "moral" people who would be sneaking out of their own communities to go have fun in "Hampsterdam".
spacemonkey42024 1 year ago
If there are any Dumb Evil Assholes i.e DEA watching perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us about the rights "Joe Six-Pack' (YOU?) & "'One-Lung Larry" (YOU?) have that 'Tony the Toker' does not? Be sure to enumerate the founding document(s) and don't be a bigger dick than you already are by imply the christian tradition of persecution is a right... instead of just a bad criminal habit! Millions know who the real criminals are in the drug war equation... the prohibitionist and their TOOLS!
BigBuckBunny420 1 year ago
10 ppl need to lay off the hootch
BigBuckBunny420 1 year ago
Yesssssssssss!! Thumbs up for this TRUTH!!
see4ward 1 year ago
Smoke weed everyday!!!!
DJCW 1 year ago
BTW, thumbs up if u spanked it to the lanky 80s cartoon tennis chick.
BurnOutXL 1 year ago
The prison system here is a job creator & union-enforced racket. The Dems & some Reps are bought off by law enforcement unions, then Dems turn around & give more rights to criminals than honest citizens, which creates the need for more cops & guards. They spend half their time doing paperwork to get benefits & a slice of pension Ponzi scheme. As for drugs, we live in a welfare state. Pot should be legal, but let's fix education first. Weed won't generate revenue or lay-off union fat-cat burden.
BurnOutXL 1 year ago
No point to make, just a couple thoughts.
1)There's only 3 crimes in common law, which are stealing somebody else's property, causing harm to a person or using mischief in your contracts.
2)There are no drug laws on the books, but there are unlawful 'legal statutes' masquerading "under the colour of law."
3)Non-violent inmates make good slave labourers.
4)"The Constitution is just a piece of paper." GWBush
5)Google "jury nullification"
ToYouWhoHaveEars1 1 year ago
LALALALALALALALAL...hello...how are you..LALALALLALA....It seems Most Indian Immigrants in USA are trading Drugs in Black market , why dont ya stop Immigration..atleast it will jobless rate will decline a bit.
If a guy has some job and family, he doesnt do drugs, Most addicts are the ones who are Jobless...
So stop INDIAN immigration and legalize drugs...then Number of Drug addicts in USA will decline and Jobless claims will even decline
xanaduisfaraway 1 year ago
everyone notice, once again it is this negro trying to corrupt our young minds. she wants to legalize drugs and suck cock for them. this video is evidence alone why drugs are illegal. obviously this white isnt interested, probably because he doesnt want an STD.
PopeColbert 1 year ago
@crazypants88 Alchole is legal yet people still die every year from throat cancer, liver cancer, drunk driving, and many other ailments that come with alcohol as well as other legal drugs on the market. I do not have pity for people who go out and seek to destroy there bodies for the sake of pleasure. That may not be a bad idea for getting people to come off of drugs, but there is one problem, they go through that when there bodies build tolerance, so they take more to over-come the tolerance.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
Thanks for the Friends inviatation PunkRockLibertarian. My comment on the video you posted: "The War on Drugs is a War fought on American soil against American Citizens. No Victim, No Crime!!! "
A good contra propaganda video from "we the people" debunking the government lies and policies concerning their so called "war on drugs". Clear, simple, logical and brought in a funny way.
The Global Legal Criminal Elite only have an interest in maintaining the present drug policy situation
viliross99 1 year ago
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I can't say that I'm totally in favor of legalizing drugs, but I certainly see the logic here. In many cases, the CIA dropped the drugs into the communities, and on some levels, the police are corrupt and in on drugs as well (just like during the Prohibition period).
GeorgeLRockwell87 1 year ago
I can't say that I'm totally in favor of legalizing drugs, but I certainly see the logic here. In many cases, the CIA dropped the drugs into the communities, and on some levels, the police are corrupt and in on drugs as well (just like during the Prohibition period).
GeorgeLRockwell87 1 year ago
Thumps up for the "Sucking Dick" comeback.
menonfire12 1 year ago
@crazypants88 Oh most definitely, people will do what they want, but mass producing something so that people get addicted and O.D. is not the best idea. Why should someone get reparations for putting a harmful substance in their body? That is a frivolous law suit and it what is causing our justice system to collapse. I burnt myself because McDonalds gave me hot coffee! . . . So? Did you ask for cold coffee?
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNC But anything can be addictive or at least habit forming.
Honestly by these criteria all but the most healthy foods should be outlawed because eating fatty foods CAN be addictive and you can develop dangerous heart conditions.
People are on average smart enough to care of themselves. Just because alcohol is legal doesn't mean that everyone is an alcoholic, of course there's moderation. Also the reason many illegal drugs cause O.D.'s as much as they do is because it's made so shoddily.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@crazypants88 People O.D. because they get addicted to the illegal substances that have various chemicals in them that cause a false sense of joy, also referred to as getting "high". The state is at its highest when first tried then over time your body builds a tolerance and when trying to achieve that same sense as the first time you use more of the substance resulting in an O.D. The other substances are not quite as addictive, but you they are addictive that is true. Shoddy is not it.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2 No that's not true. I can O.D. on alcohol but I'm not an alcoholic. I can O.D. on heroin but I've never tried it before. You have heard of moonshine right? It's a black market version of alcohol. It's can pretty dangerous and it can make you go blind. But drinking white market alcohol is much safer and if you actually get hurt by drinking it then there's someone to be acountable. Non of that is present in the black market system that you're proposing.
contd.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2 contd.
I'm not denying these drugs are addictive. I'm arguing that with legalization they can be made less severe, kind of like they did with alcohol. Also if the drugs are inherently addictive, legalization would still help. If legalized the price would drop as the black market would no longer have a monopoly on it.
contd.
crazypants88 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2 contd.
That would make it so that addicts would be less likely to commit crimes to feed their habits. Also differing levels of potency could be develop to help people slowly get off the drug.
Sorry about the comment flood
crazypants88 1 year ago
America is THE sickest nation in the WORLD.
You have more prisoners than the rest of the world PUT TOGETHER !
YOU ARE SICK !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome That's only because other countries kill their criminals, or work them to death. Here in America, we whine about having too many criminals, but we have also the softest prisons in the world, more like 3-4-star country clubs for queers than the concrete subsistence boxes they are in other countries.
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
You ARE joking ?
America has more prisoners than THE REST OF tEH WORLD PUT TOGETHER.
YOu have more prisoners than CHINA, even though china is 3 times the population of america. You have more than russia, and you execute more people than Saudi Arabia, or ANYONE else in the world !
Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome "Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !"
That's not entirely true.. He pardoned a serial killer (lots of implications it seems). While refusing to pardon a lady who had been abused by her husband for decades until she snapped and freed herself.
Kenzofeis 1 year ago
@Kenzofeis I was upset myself when the Governor of Missouri killed a guy who was cleaning up his neighborhood, killing drug-dealers--after they killed his son. To add insult to injury, the Pope came to Missouri and asked BY NAME for the man to be pardoned, the Governor agreed--then executed him as soon as the Pope left! I'm not sure if that was cowardice or betrayal?
EPGAH 1 year ago
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@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome "Geroge Bush jnr PERSONALLY authorised the deaths of more than 100 prisoners - in fact, he NEVER said no ! EVERY prisoner that was put forward for execution, he signed them off, to their deaths - EVERY ONE !"
That's not entirely true.. He pardoned a serial killer (lots of implications it seems). While refusing to pardon a lady who had been abused by her husband for decades until she snapped and freed herself.
Kenzofeis 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
Con'td...........
They do say that you can judge a nation, by the way it treats its criminals. Did you know that in the UK, EVERY prisoner gets a television in his cell, and a kettle ? That is his RIGHT, in prison. If they dont do that, you can sue them !
Police here, are absolute gobyy fuckin wankers, and they lie through their teeth, in court. They are complete SCUM. Same for lawyers and judges, too.
Prison officers are cunts, too.
BUT, you DO have rights, from The Queen !!!
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome You really shouldn't use China as an example, they make their felons WORK. If they don't FEEL like working, they become spare-parts for the honest Chinese citizens, and/or for sale abroad.
Why should criminals get TV?! That just makes it more expensive, and heck, might be a good deal for scum to pull some minor crime, get put into jail for guaranteed shelter and TV that the honest chumps have to pay for.
Here in America, criminals get gyms, cable TV, and free food.
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome (Continued) And they're STILL ungrateful for it! We have criminals suing that their cells are too small, that their TV doesn't get enough channels, and even that they get too small of portions of cake at the prison cafeteria!
Also, I find it odd that you are focusing on the mere NUMBER of criminals executed, rather than PROPORTION.
Think of prison as sending a disobedient brat to their room. But if their room has cable, XBOX, free college, etc., that's not a punishment!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
Your thinking is WAY off, old boy. For a sart, prison cells ARE overcrowded. They have 3 or sometimes 4 men (in britain), in a cell designed for ONE.
A cell is only the size of a medium/small bedroom, and there is a toilet, sink and 2 beds (bunk beds, if its a really overcrowded one) in it, and 3 or 4 men who dont know each other.
The tv ALWAYS tells you they are "spoiled", but its not the case. Anyone who tells you prison is easy, is lying. Its tollerable, but NOT easy.
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I worked in a prison for 2 years. Are you essentially telling me to believe YOU instead of what I saw?
Why should we try to make it any more comfortable? It's supposed to be a confinement/punishment, not subsidized housing. (Although more and more, it's starting to become the latter)
If prison's so horrible, why aren't criminals changing behavior pattern to stay out of it? Also, compare American prisons to any other in the world. China's are the worst, but there are others!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Remember also, in MOST states, we don't have chain-gangs anymore, the thugs are not forced to work for the country they tried to undermine. Instead, they demand exercise rooms and free-weights which can be used as weapons (And have been!).
Why not give them their exercise by making them perform some unskilled, labor-intensive task, like cleaning trash at the sides of roads or pounding rocks into gravel? (Cliche as hell, but effective at tiring them out)
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
Because then they would gain friends, in ANYONE who may fall foul of that system, themselves.
For instance, if a kid gets caught fighting a couple of times, as a teenager, he will recognise that he too may some day be on your "chain gang", and so he will be more likely to protect himself, by joining your enemies (whoever they are).
Also, they do say you can judge anation by how it treats its prisoners - and YOU are quite typical, with the "grinding rock" theory, so oyu should thinkmore
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome I realize that criminals will find friends among other criminals, that's fairly obvious.
What I was saying, though, is that ways should be found to prevent criminals from having enough energy left to riot or cause other troubles. Free-weights and other "civilized" exercise implements are too easily used as weapons. As a bonus, making the criminals work would teach them a trade, as well as getting some necessary repair work done. There's a lot of bridges that need repairing!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome And yes, I DO realize the irony of using work as a punishment, but it's better than just letting them sit there, their housing, food, TV, and even Internet paid for by the honest people.
I think the best way to judge a civilization is the difference between how it treats its criminals, and how it treats its honest people--HOPEFULLY the latter will be treated better, instead of forced to subsidize criminals having a better life than the honest poor folk!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Even without forcing them to work, we could take out some of the amenities of prisons, but that's been tried before, and every time, someone says, "WAH! You're making life worse for the criminals!"--even though that's kind of the idea.
I don't know about Britain, but here in America, some people are committing crimes just SO they can get into jail, and avoid being homeless!
We coddle criminals too much and spend not enough on honest citizens!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
Well, so far you've brought back slavery, starved people until they are so weak they cant be any trouble (concentration camps), and suggesting removing anything they may find beneficial or time occupying (mental torture).
Perhaps you should just come out and admit it - you would KILL all prisoners, and save the time and money of locking them up, wouldn't you ?
Of course, todays prison guard, is tomorrows prisoner (e.g. the nazis), so you just carry on shouting off your extremist views
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Wow, when did I do all this?
But one thing you're forgetting with your little slavery quip: Every amenity the criminals get, I have to pay for. Put another way, a portion of my work goes to letting THEM live better.
Doesn't that make me THEIR slave, in real terms?
We've gone from "He Who Does Not Work Shall Not Eat" (John Smith), to "Work Is For Chumps" (Inmate's soapbox rant about how much better criminals have it than Americans--and he's not far wrong!)
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Also, if it's so important that criminals be fed, shouldn't their families, or anyone who feels sorry for them feed them instead of the hardworking chumps--I mean taxpayers? And I promise not to stop you from paying for them getting Internet or Cable TV, I just don't want to subsidize that!
Otherwise, what is the difference between a prison and a taxpayer supported hotel?
One route that was already successfully tried in "real" life is giving criminals military rations!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome All rhetoric aside, though, prison is supposed to be the equivalent of a society saying "Go To Your Room" and/or "grounding" them.
Therefore, their time should be "occupied" with thinking of what they did wrong, and repenting. Anything that distracts from that undermines the premise of punishment!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH:
You are some kind of IDIOT - please go away, and stop speaking to me - you are TOO dumb, and are porbbably 12 yrs old.
You keep bleeting about what YOU have to pay for others to survive, and yet you CLAIM to be ex airforce !
WHO the fck paid for your career ? Oh, hang on, it was EVERYONE ELSE !
Of course, you will justify that by saying "but people needed me", but did they REALLY ?
Did they REALLY need YOU to murder people for them ?
Friggin psycho IDIOT !
Just go away !
AnnoyingTypoSyndrome 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome To plagiarize DOW's old ad-campaign, "We Fight Hard So YOU Don't Have To"
Or George Orwell, "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because Rough Men stand ready to do violence on their behalf"
They're talking about the military, the police, the dedicated castes who fight. Plus, name any dictator or criminal who stopped because they were confronted with words, "Hold! What you are doing is wrong!"
"Oh, OK, we'll just quit because you said so!"
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Modern military is nothing like the old military, which is why I--and a lot of others--left: They no longer fight to WIN, because a stalemate is too profitable for the companies. I would not be surprised if they were selling ammo&weapons to both sides, just to keep it going!
If we fought smart, like WWII, we would've taken over the oilfields, and they would run out of AK&C4, and have to poke at the Civilized World with sticks&stones--we might be able to ignore them!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Conversely, if we fought WWII the way we "fight" the terrorists, we would have declared certain Nazi buildings sacrosanct because they were civilian installations, like churches, City Halls, power plants...The Nazis would've recognized our self-inflicted blind-spots and holed up there, killing the Allies with complete impunity!
Or if the media back then had responded so tearfully everytime we killed a Nazi, the soldiers would have defected in brigade strength!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH, then, by your own logic, it is completely justifiable when terrorists kill masses of civilians. You can't set a double standard.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter It would only be justifiable if they quit whining about civilian casualties when the Civilized World strikes back. If a country, from Somalia to Japan, is Tough Enough to fight the Civilized World, they should be tough enough to take the consequences! Or maybe Americans should stop fighting and just whine that the terrorists aren't playing fair? Do you think that will stop them?
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH, ok. The next time someone gets murdered, we'll burn down the whole town and slaughter everyone if we can't find out who did it. After all, they should be tough enough to take the consequences!
As for the war on terror, it's a joke. A few radicals attacked civilians 10 years ago because the US government was funding their enemy, that also happened to be killing lots of civilians. So the US responded by invading two completely unrelated countries that happen to have alot of oil.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter If we were going to invade a country that had oil, we should have invaded Mexico or Saudi Arabia. (Mexican cartel terrorists, BTW, have killed more Americans than Iraq and Afghanistan casualties COMBINED!
Please show me that oil, though...Where's the free oil and cheap gas? Oh, that's right, China swooped in at the last moment and snaked the oil out from under us, without counting its value against our debt, or even saying, "Thanks for keeping the terrorists busy, chumps!"
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH, what are you even talking about? Look, I don't care what you believe. If you believe you are some how magically justified to use violence against innocent people, don't be suprised when they fight back and when civilized society ostracizes you.
Say this to yourself until you understand it: "There is no such thing as terrorists".
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter I view it the other way around: If they can blow us up, we can blow them up harder...You know, like Japan's little "Warning Shot" to warn us NOT to interfere with their Imperial Ambitions in the South Pacific? Which actually brought us INTO the war, and ended with us kicking their ass!
If someone attacks America, kills our people, kills our soldiers, they should expect us to fight back.
If there's no such thing as terrorists, explain the Kenyan Embassy or USS Cole?
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH You view it from the "Saturday night cowboy" POV, booze and whores, blasting guns, and yelling yihaa and everything is so simple.
How could the japanese task force even get to attack Pearl Harbour?
Then, your "kicking ass" was using two japanese towns as testing grounds for "The destroyer of worlds" killing and harming lots and lots of people who had no interest in harming anyone - even future generations was harmed, as is a common outcome of wars. How about Dresden?
"Theatre"..
Kenzofeis 1 year ago
@Kenzofeis Dresden was organized around a MUNITIONS FACTORY!
As to Hiroshima, it was a war factory, and Nagasaki was a shipyard for making warships. People in the town HAD to know what they were building there, right? Either that, or tanks, planes, bombs, and warships came from the Munitions Fairies, which no country before or since has been able to summon.
If America could summon these Munitions Fairies, we'd save billions of dollars.
That said, I think FDR let Pearl Harbor happen...
EPGAH 1 year ago
@Kenzofeis However, that aside, Japan had to make a conscious choice, then an EFFORT to cross the Pacific to "warn" us, and then giving us a verbal "warning" 24 hours later, made it sound like gloating.
Strategically, it was as big an error as shooting a cop to "warn" them not to interfere with your bank-robbery.
They would've gotten away with it if they hadn't poked us!
Most Americans were perfectly happy to just sell weapons to England and France and our other fair-weather Allies!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH, your philosophy is so backwards, so ancient. The result of one military force killing masses of civilians results in the other side retaliating and doing the same. Then before you know it you have hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths and eternal war for no other reason then for one tryant to gain more prestige and respect over the other while shifting the tremendous costs of his actions onto his slaves and populace, even if they didn't consent.
Houshalter 1 year ago
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@EPGAH, your philosophy is so backwards, so ancient. The result of one military force killing masses of civilians results in the other side retaliating and doing the same. Then before you know it you have hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths and eternal war for no other reason then for one tryant to gain more prestige and respect over the other while shifting the tremendous costs of his actions onto his slaves and populace, even if they didn't consent.
Houshalter 1 year ago
@Houshalter Actually, the American war attitude has been terrorizing peoples for decades. Even watching American News on TV terrifies me. But you're right. The terrorists that homeland security is protecting us from don't exist. That stupid bit of powder in a cartridge on a courier plane from Yemen was a bogus set-up to send war ships to the Gulf. Bogus! Now US soldiers are tasked to grow 'n ship lg quantities of poppy (heroine) home from Afghanistan, but joe citizen is jailed for weed?
Janicide 1 year ago
@Janicide Considering that China was hooked on Opium for decades, you'd think they'd move to CRUSH the heroin trade: Heroin is just super-concentrated Opium.
The only problem with drugs that I can see is that while ON drugs, people go out and do stupid things that DO affect stupid people, their inhibitions removed, inhibitions lowered--and sometimes no pain response either!
A facility for doing drugs would be one option, clamped to the wall until the effects subsided, can't hurt anyone?
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH The heroine trade is worth trillions of dollars! The Taliban used to oversee the production and shipping but since they've been chased-off, now our soldiers have taken over. The USA really wants that money and as far as supply and demand goes, the American people have a huge demand for it. You're right, it's a very serious drug meant to be administered in a facility, like a hospital.
Janicide 1 year ago
@EPGAH I've done just about every drug there is and many times and it's usual that one doesn't really want to go anywhere when on them, your either to paranoid or just spaced-out or at best you just end up listening to jazz or something.
And the thought of fighting is horrifying when stoned.
coltrane1966 1 year ago
@Janicide, I totally agree. You're more likely to get hit by lightening then a terrorist. The costs of "preventing terrorism" are very real, they lead to the deaths of many innocent people, restrictions of liberties, trillions upon trillions of dollars, and in the end there is little evidence to show they have achieved anything. In fact, by occupying other countries we've created the disorder that fuels their movement. Why do so many people not understand this? What will the history books say?
Houshalter 1 year ago 15
@Houshalter The history books will say "The United States of America was a supra-nation/empire that was founded on July 4th, 1776, and lasted until the mid-21st century, when it crumbled under its own weight due to militarism and internal decay. Once known as a peaceable and humble nation of liberty-minded individuals, it turned to government control of everything and world imperialism after World War II to perpetuate and fund its ever-increasing public-sector/welfare/warfare machine," etc.
theyoungmrt 3 months ago
@Houshalter Your town analogy is flawed. This would be more like some thugs blow up City Hall or some other Historical Landmark building, and because "Stop Snitchin" has evolved into a merchandising campaign, the thugs don't want to point out the guilty party and hand them over with a bow and optionally a side of bacon, so we bomb the whole slum section of town--except, we don't, we send in cops to try to drive the criminals out, and wonder why the locals help the thugs kill the cops!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@Houshalter You're right the war on terrorists IS a joke, but not for the reasons you think: We have the firepower to bomb the hell out of the terrorist countries almost the way you describe, but instead we send in ground troops, and the terrorists kill them, believing (not necessarily incorrectly) that they're some sort of sacrifice to their bloodthirsty cult!
This "war" should've been entirely one-sided, instead X thousand Americans died needlessly. Pick your favorite number for X!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH "If a country, from Somalia to Japan ..."
You make it sound like they are uncivilized, but they where "civilized" while "western" people practically waded in shit in the streets and died like flies from cholera and infections, and there was terror from above so people cheered when *someone else* were "chosen" to be murdered in bestial ways.
Somalias coast has been a dumping ground for waste (including toxic) and their fish was depleted.
Their only coast guard is their socalled "pirates".
Kenzofeis 1 year ago
@Kenzofeis By wading in shit, do you mean our overcrowded cities in the 1800s? Please tell what time-period you're talking about, because "civilization" is a sliding scale. At one point, Africans were actually thought to be advanced, then the rest of the world blew past them.
As to Somalia, I know that the pirates were their perversion of a Coast Guard, BUT how could they have confused a passenger liner or UN Aid ship for a toxic chemical freighter? Unless they were only out to rob?
EPGAH 1 year ago
@Houshalter Please note, though, as I said before, the Civilized World hits military targets that happen to be among civilian targets, while the terrorists strike civilian targets that are way far away from any military targets.
The whole city of Hiroshima was a war factory, just about, Nagasaki was a shipyard for warships. Even the most delusional Conspiracy Theorist hasn't found "proof" of a hidden weapons shop in the Twin Towers or Kenya Embassy!
EPGAH 1 year ago
@EPGAH The problem is, with enough people like you - the "nazis" never really lost. General statement.
Kenzofeis 1 year ago
@AnnoyingTypoSyndrome Honestly, other than the homosexual rapes, criminals live better than some lower-class honest people!
Also, unlike other countries, America gives criminals unlimited appeals. There are cases of people on Death Row for DECADES, rather than just being killed, because they keep dragging it out with frivolous appeals. How many times should a person be found guilty before we're allowed to execute them?
Also remember, America is used as penal colony by Mexico&co., so there's that
EPGAH 1 year ago
i agree with every thing said in this video but even dick sucking is illegal in some states as well as sodomy there for going along with the property argument
kellycastle 1 year ago
@kellycastle The supreme court invalidated those laws in 2003. It is crazy that it took that long to do it.
lambedan 1 year ago
Great vid but being forced to pay taxes at gunpoint and threat of kidnapping/imprisonment can hardly be considered contributing.
A contribution is a voluntary process, is it not? Otherwise, if a mugger steals your wallet, then you're "contributing" to him.
Love the part "but I don't want to be a cocksucker" LOL!!!!
Iseeyoursoul 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk You see I am glad you finally revealed yourself. I knew you where there the whole time hiding under some equality charade, I hoped against hope that I was wrong about you, but you are what I thought you are, and as far as your question goes you have no right to determine what is fair until you put your son to die on a cross, until that day where you give up your son to save all of mankind, it is best that you not speak on matters you cannot comprehend. Goodbye, I am done!
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
what are talking about you started talking about jesus first, to which i than said that jesus simply didn't make a difference in this matter. and than you threw in once again that god said what not to do to which i once again said it made little difference. not to mention that your post said that these people who do drugs must not have jesus in their lives which is ridiculous and it seemed to suggest that without god you cannot be good which is a delusion many people think.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk What I am talking about is that I knew what kind of person you are because I have had this same conversation different face, different time, but same demon. G-d did not break his laws, you can't prove that you are just trying to make me angry demon, and I will not listen to your empty worlds, as I am sure will not listen to mine as that is what you have been doing. To sum this all up you have lied about what I said and personally attacked my belief, yet you call me the monster.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
i havent called you anything except a christian, and i can quote what you said unless you removed your posts im not twisting it, it is actually what you said.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2 continued
than you said that anarchy wouldnt fix anything even though we werent talking about that but rather that drugs should be legal. laws changing is a regular thing it has nothing to do with anarchy. and the simple fact remains that people like yourself try to impose your morals on us which is against the constitution. and heres another debate that is overused, if i cant comprehend it you cant either. it is obvious you havent even read the bible at all.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk First of all I said I am done with it, Second of all you are falsely accusing me of having malicious intent. You are also saying things that I did not say, and yes I have read the Bible the whole Bible which is more then I could say for you, nice job cherry picking the verses, you must have done this enough that it already well rehearsed in your head. Third I claimed that I am not forcing any of my opinions on anyone, but you didn't bother to read that.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
i didnt say you had malicious intent, and no i havent read the whole bible just a few books still working on it though. those verses i do have written down however as well as a few more its much easier than looking for them within my bible. and i did read that, im not forcing mine on anyone either just simply stating them.. also i am not trying to come across as attacking i am just trying to respond to your posts feel free to stop.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
evil = 2 thes. 1:8-9, Deut. 17:2-7, 21: 18-21, 23:2, Exo. 31 :15
sexist = 1 cori. 11:6-9, 14: 34-35, and 1 timothy 2:8-15
as for hypocrite, well god himself brakes quite a few of the commandments including lying, adultery, murder, as well as being a jealous god (coveting) also Matt 5:18-19 says that nothing of the old testament will change just in case some says the old testament doesn't count. there those are your and gods standards.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk What a waste of potential that you would use anger to search for scripture, but you will not search to find truth. Do you know why every time you pick up that Bible you don't see truth? You don't want to see it, so you create and alternate truth, also known as a lie, and then you try to convince me that it is sane and coherent.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
i see now that i can come across that way but as i just said above i am not trying to attack just rebuke. the reason i read the bible is because all religious history aside all chrisitans try to do their best to be good people and i am just trying to understand how this book motivates that.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
using god as a way to determine laws is in my opinion is a bad idea that is all i was trying to convey, this should not have anything to do if i "comprehend" how he sacrifice himself to himself to make a loophole for a rule he made. also nice dismissive completely avoid my question and call me stupid, how christian of you. if you dont want to listen to what people have to say then dont post, its youtube and we can all say whatever we want here. so troll face indeed
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk No loophole he just sent his son as the ultimate sacrifice, instead of us preparing a new sacrifice every year. We can't even change the channel without a remote, so how could we possibly follow the guidelines to a sacrifice ritual? G-d gave us all a chance, so take it or leave it either way. Either way, you have no one to blame but yourself. Also to add about the jealous G-d line, jealousy is not a sin, coveting is and that is about as close to jealousy as it gets.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
yes it was a loophole, that is the definition i believe. god made a law where we had to present sacrifices for our sins and to get out of this law he sacrifice his son which as said was himself in human form, thats what the trinity says i think all one entity but 3 at the same time with the holy spirit. i thought coveting was being jealous or rather wanting something that someone else has, is it not?
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk No, coveting is wanting somehting you can not have, or you do not posses. Wanting a car is not evil, wanting your neighbors car is evil becuase it leads to stealing. A loop hole would mean that G-d did something underhanded when infact he made his son the ultimate sacrifice for all our sins, the rules are still the same. The spotless lamb's blood covered our sins. Why would I want to continue an arguement?
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk as for your remarks about me being a troll, I wouldn't expect nothing less. This video was sent to me by the creator of it, in a message. It is a video about a controversial subject so he is indeed the troll if anyone. Nice try though, and uh, stop acting like a child with the name calling and grow up. Lets face it you didn't want to hear and answer anyway, you just wanted me to be stumped and then you would harass me.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
no actually i was saying that i was more being the troll, for i am the one who furthers the conversation. of course this wasnt meant in a bad way at all because being a troll isnt a bad thing. also no im not trying to stump you i am just conversing, i accept that my lack of belief could be totally wrong. also i dont believe i have called you a name like i said before could you show me where i dont see it. also if you wish we can continue this through pm's
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk Look, lets leave it at this maybe we can both walk away from this satisfied, I am a Christian and I believe that drugs are wrong and immoral, you disagree with me, in America that is perfectly acceptable, so lets live out the rest of our lives knowing we both strongly believe what we choose to believe. Fair enough?
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2
fair enough, like i said i wasn't trying to sound like i was attacking, just trying to have a conversation or a debate at most.
NihilistMonk 1 year ago
@NihilistMonk Say what you have to say, but there is no need to continue this because no one wants to hear our argument.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
Hardcore punk rock started in L.A. and it was always about libertarian/say whatever you want viewpoints without any big govt pc bullshit or stupid unconstitutional hate laws.
Check out the things they'd do for fun in this video lofl.
/watch?v=RzOivNpoOBM
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
People say California is gone, but these are the kind of people that will save it and most of them still live here.
Also please look at this video by T.S.O.L.(true sounds of liberty)
/watch?v=ETKuoHlYuHM
or this is you like mellower stuff.
/watch?v=woBq9_wgJXc
TheNewMusicNetwork 1 year ago
Weed actually cures some types of cancers. Hemp oil is a good example.
havoctrend 1 year ago
No one here has to agree with me, but I just stated my belief and that is all I wanted to do, so please do not take it personal if you disagree with me because I do not take it personal if you choose to not believe what I believe. I have seen too much damage and heart ache done by drugs and legalizing them will not eliminate that heart ache it will spread it, so that all may know the pain that I know of a loved one losing there selves, losing who they where to a demon . . . a monster.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
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7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
The Truth...
unamacarana 1 year ago
@crazypants88 By the way I am against alcohol too, I have seen it take too many lives even after it was legalized. Pharmaceutical drugs, which is to say legal ones are still addictive and people still get hooked on them, and it will be the same for legalizing the rest of the drugs in the world. You would only be trading one problem for another, and in most cases an identical result.
7thNCtrooper2 1 year ago
@7thNCtrooper2 result maybe similar but in the long run people would love their freedom and understand self responsibility! Government speedup their soft kill last year of doubling or tripling Methadone Treatment Clinics.One person who was recovering alcoholic, all he needed is someone to testify that he ha