Sun Kil Moon - Glenn Tipton

[vanscoholic]

S.O.A

[tubbsnd]

sons season 4 episode 12, listen for it. dedicated to piney

[shinnescintillio]

"I never breathed her name again

But I liked to dream about what could have been

I never heard her calls again

But I like to dream " This part always makes my heart hurt a little

[metalero690]

wtf

[deserttiger22]

KK Downing left Priest already its a real shame though tipton is til active. I can't find anything related to Glenn Tipton to this song other than that one line.

[TheArtOfConfusion]

I need to thank Bill Janovitz for bringing me here.

[BenHarrisProductions]

i love priest and sun kil moon but can someone tell me what the link between tipton and the rest of the song is

[halfofwhatiam]

2 People like KK Downing more than Glenn Tipton.

[vanderlipriest]

Show...bela musica... KK Downing or Glenn Tipton rsrrs Yeaaahhh Priest

[longbendy81]

What a TWAT - this is Mark Kozelek.

Glenn coujld play this with his fecking feet

[TheGeneralBurn]

who is gelnn tipton?

[cityofwalls]

@TheGeneralBurn

google it.

[claydavis2011]

@TheGeneralBurn boxer. do you have the internet?

[Jkbox1]

Used this question on a college girl waiting tables at aseaside restaurant in Old Orchard Maine "Tipton or KK?" She had no idea who either was or of the band.

Tipton is the better of the 2 IMHO. Way more lyrical.

[mojo437]

I really don't think this song is about a serial killer. I think it's about breaking someones heart for the first time, or having your heart be broken, never breathing her name again, seeing a correspondence letter lying around your house: some people just operate under the assumption the other person is dead.

[BeauSylvester47]

@MrGlenntipton if you really are glenn tipton that's pretty cool lol

[cheska76]

Choosing between KK and Glenn it's like answering the question: "Who do you love the most, mummy or daddy?" It doesn't make any sense: I love 'em both equally !! \m/

[MrGlenntipton]

you guys suck ....HAHA

[guy9122]

I like Glenn tipton more than kk downing but they're both awesome:)

[DarkTwilightGuitar]

Judas Priest

[Iam18yearsolddddd]

I like them both, judas rocks and this song ;)

[dan32113]

does anybody know, why so many boxers are on this cd? Salvador Sanchez, Duk Koo Kim, Pancho Villa.

[jorgekluney]

@dan32113 You left out Benny Paret.

[dan32113]

@jorgekluney what song is Benny Paret in? also back to the question why are there so many boxers on this Cd. 2 British boxers died in 1994/95 fighting for British titles Bradley Stone & James Murray, its sad that hundreds of boxers have died from ring fights!

[jorgekluney]

@dan32113 In the song Salvador Sanchez "Benny 'Kid' Paret came a good way, climbed the gray sky to raise his hands, stopped by the better man".

Even the name of the band "Sun Kil Moon" is in reference to a boxer "Moon Sung-Kil" whose name was called "Sung Kil Moon" during his career.

[hannibal3blue]

Wasn't Glenn Tipton the gutiarist in Judas Priest?

[MrGlenntipton]

@hannibal3blue dude the priest is alive and well jsyk.....\m/

[hannibal3blue]

@MrGlenntipton Apologies Mr Tipton!

[HCsonicknx]

@hannibal3blue He IS.

[metalero690]

@hannibal3blue he is actually

[xerxerxex]

I honestly do not think this is about murder...

[modestlyneutral]

Mad Men this week reminded me of this song.

[PFB1994]

It's pretty clearly the thoughts of a serial killer, in my listening. I guess my question is did the character just kill the woman at the donut shop, and than reminisces about his first victim - or did that old woman die a natural death?

[thedeviltroy]

thanks for the info guys!

[souleater0815]

Cassius Clay was hated more than Sonny Liston

Some like KK Downing more than Glenn Tipton

That's gold Jerry.  Gold!

[thedeviltroy]

what does this have to do with glenn tipton? anyone know? is there another glenn tipton(besides judas priest? im lost ova hee

[SleazeCunt]

@thedeviltroy Nothing, though according to the lyrics some like K.K Downing more.

[MrGlenntipton]

@SleazeCunt it's an age old question in heavy metal,like which came first? the chicken or the egg

[souleater0815]

@thedeviltroy It has absolutely no meaning whatsover. That's why it's hilarious. He just picked one of the names in the song!

[Cloondolkoyne]

I love music.... thanks.... this song makes me cry... in a good way... I think

[bladybrunch]

:) agreed.

[BicycleTragedy]

I don't think it's that unbelievable, to take the song literally. (Why were my other comments marked as spam?) Anyway, Kozelek's back catalog runs pretty grim: suicide, mental imbalance, dementia, abject depression, genocide, hallucination...why not add serial murder? Just saying.

[n9freaky]

I admit, I haven't really listened to many of his songs; I haven't even heard this whole album yet. While I certainly don't think it's an unbelievable view of the song (I recently read a review which referred to it as a "chilling murder ballad"), I simply relate to it in a different way, it takes on a different meaning; perhaps my subconscious finds it hard to relate to a song which takes such a drastic turn.

And, by the way, I think it's a shame that your other comments were marked as spam...

[richmonksgtr]

It's funny. I first saw this CD on display at Borders, and looked at the titles, put it down, then picked it back up. "Is that first song really about my preferred Judas Priest guitarist? Then I listened to it, bought it, and immediately proclaimed it to be the best album of 04. Until Neko Case's "The Tigers Have Spoken" was released.

[t3hpwner3r]

@richmonksgtr This was released in '03 though, lol.

[richmonksgtr]

@t3hpwner3r I just looked it up. You're right. It was released in Nov 03'. It was still on the new release displays at Borders when I picked it up in 04'. :o

[n9freaky]

This is a really, really interesting view of this song. I love the way you think, and it's fascinating to look at it this way, truly. But, still, I just can't look at it like this.

[n9freaky]

Beautiful song. Such melancholy, loss, and sorrow, permeating through the passage of time. No matter your take on it, the last verse glows sickeningly with an untraceable pain, likely going back farther than a breakup or the literal burying of someone.

As for the first verse, it's almost like a preface to the rest of the song. He seems to be presenting different people, different types, and the way they relate, while also characterizing himself. But, hey, I dunno.

[Cloondolkoyne]

magnificent melancholy

[1790km]

reminds me of dylan. great song.

[kidshowbusiness1]

ikiruslands has basically nailed the meaning of the final verse, and I think you really have to have a negative outlook to understand. He is talking about a failed relationship, most likely due to his own, nasty character flaws but perhaps also because she cheated, hence whatever hurtful things she wrote about him in the notes. The ensuing breakup was no doubt ugly, and the two never talked again, thus he "buried" his pain deep. She is the victim of his personality. I totally feel this.

[spuffchops70]

I think you're probably correct, although I'm still puzzled by the Judas Priest comparison! The first few plays you're entranced by this sweetly melancholic porch song, then you realise that there's some deeper meaning at play and that's what makes this song so great.

[ikiruslands]

my impression is the song is more or less about loved ones leaving for some reason. in the end of the first verse with his dad, it implies his dad has died and then in the second verse, she dies, and the third verse with his "victim" i am guessing she too has died or just left him. with the last verse i feel he refers to her as a victim because she is worse for knowing him maybe but he still misses her very much. whether she died too or not, he still feels guilty for her absence.

[exhumedone]

i like KK Downing more than Glenn Tipton =)

[bendm2003]

i initially thought that too - however i think its about him 'burying a victim' in a law enforcement or medical role.

[bill21967]

I suppose you could be correct.

However, he does say, "I buried my first victim at age 19," which is a bit young for someone in a professional role. He then talks about going through her jean pockets, finding letters, dreaming about her...etc... I know I should not over think all this, but it just seems like such a poignant, sweet song and then it ends with this weird, off-key, disturbing imagery.

[tudobemcanguru]

I'd say it's a drastic metaphor aiming at the same as 'breaking a girl's heart' - which itself would seem quite disturbing if taken literally, as would 'killing me softly'. But that's just my humble opinion as a non-native speaker.

[bill21967]

Thanks for your thoughts... I am going to try to let my concerns go and just enjoy the song...at least MOST of it... : )

[jakobscalpel]

19 is not too far off the age he seems to be in the first two voices. I was taken aback by the last verse at first, but it seems to me that it is a somewhat crude metaphor for his first real (i.e. sex) girlfriend. The idea of thinking about what might have been ties right back in with how his dad was thinking about how fast the years fly in the first verse. My thoughts...

[bill21967]

I agree, this IS a great song. However, could someone explain the last two verses? It sounds as if he switches from sweet reminiscing about his father to killing some girl... It would seem he is a serial killer and this just makes the whole song sound very odd. Let me know what you think?

[javagirl48]

I like Glenn Tipton more than KK Downing. Just a preference. And it definitely refers to the guys in Judas Priest.

[natschavez]

amazing, just like my dad did.....

[bzM2bH]

this song is amazing

[lawrenceee2]

from judas priest

[lawrenceee2]

it's gleen tipton for judas

[wavpunch]

Sun Kil Moon is actually a name of a famous boxing champion of 80's in South Korea. But actually the name is Moon Sunkil in Korea, because the family name ("Moon" here) is put on the first part of the full name unlikely western way.

[awesomeguitar666]

This is probably one if not my favorite song of all time. For the last year I've listened to it pretty much everyday, and the lyrics still get to me. =p

[natschavez]

yes brother, i agree.

[achjo123456]

I dont think that this is Glenn Tipton from Judas Priest..

[Twowheelvolpe]

Kind of hard to argue that it's not. A reference to both K.K. Downing and Glenn Tipton--the two guitarists of Judas Priest--in the same line? No way that's a mistake. This is a beautiful song, btw.

For those interested in playing it, start with capo 3 and noodle around in DADGAD, drop-D, or double drop-D. All three tunings work well. The root key is F (played through D).

[kornjubi]

It is.

[CamJames16]

If you want to know, ASK the BAND rather than asking directionless Youtubers... lol!

[kel9591]

The guy singing this song (mark Kosalek) also recorded a few accoustic versions of ac/dc songs XD

[TwilightZoneBand]

Is this a tribute to the guy's dad, or Glenn Tipton?

Clearly whoever wrote this was a Priest fan...I mean "Some like KK Downing more than Glenn Tipton"...This song confuses me...XD

[philcollinsrocks]

ahaha...i too was intrigued by the title of this song...i dont know who this band is, but yea its glenn from judas priest. they say in the beginning, 'some like kk downing more than glenn tipton'

i like em both...

[turbomaximus1966]

oh, now i see the band is sun kill moon and song glenn tipton. but why such a song title?

[turbomaximus1966]

Glenn tipton from judas priest?

[phantomcreeps]

Thanks! This is one of the best CD's Ever.