Really? I guess its better for him to be ignored by those who would off him then to make him non-living and have already suspicious fans solidify their belief in a corrup, power-hungry- global conspiracy. One thing I know is he doesn't manufacture his evidence.
It's called "not wanting to make martyrs". If high profile people like Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones were dying after asking the kinds of questions they do, too many people would be getting suspicious and asking too many questions.
Let's face it, when he finally does die, no matter how natural the cause is, people will say he was killed. He could be 90 years old and his heart just gives up and people will claim it was poison or something like that.
With that in mind, wouldn't they rather stop his constant "revealing of their secrets" since he'll be seen as a martyr either way?
I watched your video with the thought that I might be disappointed. Thanks for making me wrong. This is a point that I have made several times, and conspiracy theorists do make utter fools of themselves trying to get around it.
Killing Alex Jones would just open him up to a wider audience, and people would just look in to what he says much more than what they do now because they would probably be more likely to believe he's legit. Why in the hell would anyone want to kill him to boost the amount of recognition he get's if he's offering the truth?... that would just be completely retarded, so the statement in this video is just idiotic.
@CraigCallister alex jones was on national tv once he had a tv show on trutv with jesse ventura.. WTF do u have to say to that... what kind of truther lands a spot on national tv.. ill ttell you whawt kind.. the lying phony kind
Whatever!... i hate talking to paranoid people like you who seem to have a fixed mind towards things without looking at other possibilities and reasons. I'm a "sheeple"?... haha, i assure you i'm far from it.
I killed JFK. I staged the moon landing. I rigged Building 7 to fall in a controlled explosion. I know who in the government are Bilderbergers. I started the Bilderbergers. I killed Jimmy Hoffa. I started the Illuminati. I started Opus Dei. I started the Cowsills. GM is a government conspiracy meant to eliminate dwarves on Mars. I know because I was there.
Sorry to get picky, but that word did kind of effect the meaning of the sentence.
As for Alex, well I am surprised he hasn't even had a scrap with death. I mean here he is supposedly exposing every dirty secret the government has and there hasn't been so much as a mysterious bum trying to run him over. However it isn't why I question Alex. I have my own reasons that have nothing to do with this video.
@stbays As far as Alex goes, I understand where you are coming from, but I have a different take on the matter. He has been high profile, ever since 2002-2003. If someone killed him now, it would only give credence to him. There would be a lot more people that would potentially start listening, if something like that ever happened. So, if you leave someone alive, it would make some skeptical about what he says.
I get that angle too. I'm still surprised an attempt hasn't been made though. Not that I think it'd be the government making the attempt. I just think Alex would probably be the sort to fake it by now.
Sorry, I really have no faith in him. I've just heard him claiming FEMA death camps, war thanks to y2k, and claiming martial law was about to go into full force on 9/11. After a while, I figured out he was probably trying to get people to riot.
@stbays more like end the fed, and 9/11 was a step to martial law, ie the new tsa naked body scanners, if that's not a violation of your civil liberties, these legal gropings, I don't know what is. Don't even get started on passe comentatus, the army can't police it's own citizens act. Fucking Americans, not many of you have woken out of your slumber, but at least some have...
If 911 was a step, then it was a very slow one cause so far we still haven't really seen any signs of it.
As for the "legal gropings" I assume you mean the random searches before boarding a plane, which were going on before 911. I know cause I got picked for one of them. I will say for a random search, both me and the other kid going to the Jobcorps managed to make the list.
Any ways, what ever might be out there, Alex Jones is not the man for the job. I don't trust him.
@stbays No, not random searches. The TSA NAKED BODY SCANNERS, manage to pick up any news the last year? Jesus, let's start with the passing of the patriot act, since I'm sure your attention span doesn't go past the last episode of survivor. Patriot act 1 and now patriot act 2 which is supported now by the Obama ADM, besides dismantling the bill of rights, it has now made domestic spying legal, which is unconstitutional. So TSA- Legal gropings P.A.1&2 -legal spying CPS- legal kidnappings
Fact is the scanners were inevitable. Their implementation might've been sped up a bit, but I have no doubt they would've come into play eventually.
Not sure why you'd assume I don't know about the Patriot Act. I won't deny, there's a lot about it I don't know, but that's pretty true of most people, including the law makers. When it comes to this topic, I guess I kind of agree with Penn and Teller.
@stbays Yessss Penn and Teller are funny as hell. I'm not sure HOW you can possibly imagine that the shit they're doing, i.e. NAKED-BODY SCANNERS, not just scanners. (the first two words should set something off) As well as "enhanced searches", which in the real world would be "legal groping."
Now I'm hearing about body-temperature scanners, which could be used as evidence. Apparently the n-b scanners haven't improved security, and that the thermal-scanners are highly inaccurate to intent.
Yes I'm aware they show a 3D version of you in all your glory. I also heard the programming had to be altered so it wouldn't show your junk. And yes, I do believe this tech would've shown up in airports eventually.
Penn and Teller did a whole episode on the issue of the Patriot Act for their show "Bullshit". I found it interesting that very few people who voted for it actually read it.
Any ways, some where along the line we got really off topic, which is Alex Jones. He's a liar. I even feel he's a crook. He's up to something and if it's not making money, I think he might be the true attempt to incite martial law.
@stbays I think he's more honest then you give him credit for, he's straight Libertarian / Constitutional. Supports Ron Paul, and if you hear Ron Paul you become convinced. You may need to know some economics to get everything he's saying, but has always had his convictions, never flip-flopped as far as I can tell on any issue but the death penalty. Alex Jones has always stuck to his convictions as well. I look at his documentaries, WACO the video report he did was slow but satisfying.
My own knowledge of his "honesty" is tech based. More to the point, Y2K. I'm a computer guy and I knew what would and was not likely to happen that day. I also heard what AJ had to say. To this day, I haven't heard him apologize for what I can only imagine were flat out lies he told that day. Even if he simply was misinformed, I'd still expect a retraction.
It's the fact that even the "mainstream" will post retractions when they're wrong. Has AJ?
@911sausageman Withdrawing from the fight already?!? Aww...come on! Be a good sport, kiddo! There are always losers on the battlefield or debate, and it's always the ones that run off first that are the ones that are the losers, and they know it. The only thing I think is absurd is the fact that you believe the government, thinking "oh, this could never happen!"
@gangstapranksta717 Not only have I seen this, I also had the displeasure of actually reading 2 books by David Ray Griffin. He has no equal in the denseness of error and stupidity designed to seem insightful. 1/2 star.
if this is the only evidence you have for the government's version of 9/11 then i see why people overseas think we're all idiots. Do some actual research before you try to ridicule a guy that is stating the ugly truth.
@911sausageman Is that the truth hater's only true retort when it comes to documentaries?!? How about: Zero: An Investigation into 9/11, National Security Alert: Sensitive Information, In Plane Sight, 9/11 Ripple Effect, etc... The list goes on and on. Watch those videos (which debunk 99.9% of your stance), and then get back to me. But we all know that you'll pull the "I've seen those already, and they're crap!" BS, because you don't want to admit that you're wrong, & that you've been had.
@gangstapranksta717 HA! Have you ever picked up a book in your life? It's absolutely hilarious how you guys think watching internet videos constitutes 'research'... which was my point by the way.
@911sausageman You truly are a sad, little man. I mean, why should I take you seriously, when all you do is spend your time trolling videos that don't share your opinion. Documentaries, books, articles, etc... from both sides of the equation are considered research. So, if that's what you mean, then yes I have done my research. It's people like you who are so dumb, that they think that the jet fuel from the plane caused STEEL to melt...
@gangstapranksta717 I'm trolling 'videos that don't share my opinion'?! It's you that's on the wrong video, g-dawg.
"people like you who are so dumb, that they think that the jet fuel from the plane caused STEEL to melt..."
YAWN.. same old debunked strawman over and over. Nobody but your ilk ever claimed the steel melted; only that it weakened from the extremely hot, widespread fires. You don't even know the basics but claim to have done your 'research'. Give it a rest dawg.
@911sausageman If you're going to make a debate, at least be respectful enough to not call me g-dawg or dawg. Otherwise, I'll start referring to you as 69sausageluver. Hell, even your screen name makes you look gay, like you're all about the cock. Look at your profile comments you've made in videos. Look at your screen name. You're the troll, not me. I may make make a comment here and there on an opposition's video, but it's not my life's mission, unlike you.
@gangstapranksta717 . "The interior core is meant to stand, despite the exterior collapsing."
er, no. the exterior columns provide a main structural support for the building and attach the floor trusses to the interior columns. Do you just make this shit up as you go along?
I'd like to stick my sausage in your mouth if that would make you shut up.
@911sausageman Really?!? No mainstream media and news ever mention that a plane crash along with the jet fuel melting the structure, caused the structure to go down?!? You're full of shit. All you've done here is read verbatim from the commission report, and make insults. You've done nothing. People who have no defense claim strawman, when they themselves are the ones creating the strawman.
@911sausageman ...Not to mention, when that opinion doesn't work, you use the " plane crash, coupled with the fire caused the structure to collapse" excuse. Regardless of the fact that the structure had steel beams, which resembled mesh webbing, which was done to prevent structure failure, you think that a plane that was like a pinprick in the building, was the reason for the collapse. What about the steel core of the building? That had no reason to collapse,...
@911sausageman ...since the building was designed to have the floors fall, and leave the steel core intact, for demolition purposes. You have numerous booms even heard on the tv, coming from the buildings, when the building hadn't fallen yet. I could go on and on and school you six ways to sunday, but you're only retort would be the 9/11 commission, or you'd simply troll and call names, without adding to the knowledge base.
@gangstapranksta717 Um, the building was designed to fall? Okay.. actually the building was designed so as to maximize floor space by moving interior columns to the core and the facade.
Many 'explosions' were heard between the plane strikes and the collapse... It could be any number of things, such as: oxygen tanks in EMT vehicles and people hitting the ground after jumping.
It's funny how these random 'booms' happen long before the actual collapses...
@911sausageman Every building is designed to fall in a particular matter. I have (and read) a copy of the Commission report, dinkus. Many people have owned or read the report. In fact, many grade schools, high schools, and colleges at the time made it required or recommended reading. "Oxygen tanks exploding", people hitting the ground after jumping"...Really?!? Is that the best explanation that you can come up with?!? Deep booms that shook the ground were...caused by supposed EMT oxygen..
@911sausageman ...tanks, or from suicide jumpers. Let alone, video footage from a guy on the Jersey Shore area who was filming, recorded the WTC attacks, booms and all......from New Jersey. Yet, you believe that oxygen tanks and people jumping was what was recorded in New Jersey. What a complete and utter buffoon you are. Also, it's funny you mention how the booms happen long before the collapse, since my belief is that after the plane hit, bombs with thermite were detonated to heat the...
@gangstapranksta717 You mean Rick Siegel and the wind blowing on his microphone? Right. Strange how the hundreds of other cameras didn't seem to pick that up and they were within a few blocks of the WTC complex.
Real controlled demolitions make a series of BOOMS that everyone would be able to hear for miles; not relatively small, random booms an hour before the collapse. Do you have any comprehension why this makes no sense?
@911sausageman :facepalm:...Wind blowing in the microphone does not make that type of boom. Anyone who has owned a video camera knows that...sorry, but try again. Strange how there were tv cameras that recorded multiple booms from the base of the WTC. Strange how NUMEROUS reporters commented on bombs being set off, or that they were told by NYFD that there were bombs being set off, so get away. As far as the booms go, it depends on the kg. level. If you could hear booms right near the WTC..
@gangstapranksta717 Oh right! I forgot that you haven't done your research: you see Siegel has a little problem with the way 9/11 mysteries put their own audio onto that clip. That's right! Those are sound effects stuck in there to deceive your little brain. Here: watch?v=RdzpMbV6dXw
@911sausageman ...Really, is that the best you can do?!? Even in the "true" version, you can still hear booms. Also, the sound in the second one is much lighter, as if altered. Nice try, but no cigar.
@gangstapranksta717 the original is most likely wind blowing on the mic like I said before. The 100's of other cameras much closer don't pick up those booms. Explain that, will you?
so.. you just admitted the 9/11 mysteries manipulated their evidence and that you're just fine with this. Exacting standards for 'truth' you got there!
@911sausageman As I said before, there were recordings, video cameras, and reporters that all heard it. Many video tapes were bought or confiscated, as is the case with the tapes recording the Pentagon. No, I never admitted that the 9/11 mysteries manipulated anything. You're putting words in my mouth because you have no argument. I said that even on the second recording in the video, you could still hear booms, and also, the sound was much lighter in the 2nd, as if it was tampered with.
@911sausageman ..., & you could still hear booms as far as the Jersey shoreline, that's a telltale sign of bombs being detonated. You have numerous witnesses, including William Rodriguez...you know, the worker at the WTC who saved a bunch of people, and was later made a hero and met G-double-ya. He talked about this in detail about how he heard multiple booms that weren't from boiler rooms,& were above and below him. Do you see how YOU make no sense? Sure you do, but you're just here to troll.
@911sausageman Do you understand that on 911, people weren't making similies, allegories, metaphors, etc... for what they saw or heard, unless it sounded like something enough for them to really believe that. You either saw/heard something or you didn't. You could say, "hey, it sounded like I heard booms going off because of bombs", but who is going to say something of that magnitude unless they really believed that it sounded like such....
@gangstapranksta717 No, they say 'it sounded LIKE a big explosion but was the building collapsing' which CTs will misquote as 'it sounded like a big explosion' to push their lying agenda. Read the full firefighter statements. None thought they were because of bombs when you put it in context.
@911sausageman Here we go again...you have plenty of people who weren't in the buildings who thought that the booms were bombs. Then, you have firefighters telling a couple of individuals ON CAMERA, to keep away from the building because there was a second bomb in the building. Then, you have numerous reports initially on the news of a white van in the parking garage basement that had a bomb in it. Then, all of a sudden, you never heard them talk of it again, even to clarify.
@gangstapranksta717 The firefighters pulled everyone back from buiding 7 at around 2PM. It's because they knew the building was coming down: it was creaking, leaning and had massive fires with at least 10 stories gouged out on it's south face.
As for other accounts. There was a bomb scare at a school down the street that truthers like to misrepresent as being at the WTC. Also, the fog of war. Ever hear of it?
@911sausageman Yet, Larry Silverstein told them to "pull it". Later, he claimed that he was talking about getting the firefighters out, when they were out of the building for some time. lol...the "there was a bomb scare at a school" excuse. How typical and funny! The "fog of war" has nothing to do with what we're talking about... Ever hear of...staying on topic and not adding in useless garbage to attempt to make yourself feel smart?
@911sausageman Yeah, you're wrong. Talk to crane operators, iron workers, people who work for demolition companies (such as Controlled Demolition, Inc.) The term "pull it" is commonplace terminology in that field. It's like calling a handgun magazine a "clip". It's all just various "slang" nomenclature for the same thing. See, another ad-hominem that you pulled. The "I'm losing badly, so I'll try to insult his intelligence, since I already called him a wackjob" technique. You proved my point.
@gangstapranksta717 You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Here. Straight from Brett Blanchard of Controlled Demolition Inc:
"We have never once heard the term "pull it" being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we've spoken with."
@911sausageman Of course you're going to have companies and spokespeople fitting into the party line. Try talking to demolition workers, iron workers, crane operators. They are not hard to find. I've had quite a few tell me that it's slang for pulling the plug; a demolition.
@gangstapranksta717 The old truther stand by: if someone disagrees with them they must be paid off/lackeys/insiders. blah blah blah. Here it is, straight from Controlled Demolition themselves, that that term is NOT used and you just can't accept it.
I can find you loads of others in the biz that say the same thing. Are they towing the party line too?
@911sausageman One thing you'll learn in the real world is that while at your job, if you go against what the govt says (for instance 9/11), it can mean your job, or it can mean that you're blacklisted. I don't believe that they are "in on it", per se. I believe that they feel it's better to tow the party line and mind your own business, especially when you deal with government contracts, or you're at their leniency.
@gangstapranksta717 Since you believe that Larry Silverstein gave the 'pull it' order to the fire department, you must believe that the FDNY was in on it and are skilled in controlled demolition then destroyed building 7.
@911sausageman I believe those people who were told the order were either not "true" firefighters, or that they were paid off, or they were threatened, or even misled. Hell, they could have been told that someone found explosives planted in the building, and since there was "so much damage and loss of life", the bomb was detonated rather than have a bomb squad come in to disarm it. I mean, how many firefighters & personnel would have questioned structural integrity on that day after that event?
@gangstapranksta717 Those firefighters sure make an awful lot of money.. Oh wait, they don't get paid shit. I wonder if just one single one of them will come forward to write a book on the bombs in the building and make a few million? HMMM
@911sausageman :facepalm:...Have you heard of "under the table" deals? Or, do you think that they get six figure raises? Also, in this day and age, anything that isn't along the lines of the official story isn't something that gets written or has a movie made out of it. You have publishers and movie execs that don't want to get sued because of a book or movie that controversial.
@gangstapranksta717 Not so. If someone had some inside information that could be corroborated, they would be sitting on the story of the Millennium and would stand to get rich, famous and have awards plastered all over them.
10 years later... not one single person has come forward to say that they took part in this conspiracy.
@911sausageman Because how many people want to do something that makes the govt look bad, and have to worry about getting thrown in jail or getting killed. I mean, if the govt was involved and someone had the inside scoop that they were going to release, do you think the govt would say "Ok, you got us", or do you think "silencing" would be involved?
@911sausageman If someone came forward who took part in this conspiracy, they'd have so many accounts of treason, premeditated murder, etc... they'd either end up in life terms in prison 1000 times over, or they'd be executed. They wouldn't be awarded or anything. Witnesses who have come forward have only been belittled.
@911sausageman Ah...the "witness changed his story" excuse. After time, many witnesses are able to remember events more clearly, since they aren't in the heat of the moment. Also, Rodriguez's story has pretty much stayed the same. He still rescued people, he still heard booms, etc... The media is the one who altered his story, when interviewing him many times, in order for it to fit the official story for them.
@911sausageman ...steel, aiding the jet fuel, just enough for it to melt. If the jet fuel and crash ALONE did the trick of bringing the buildings down, then why were there people AT THE ENTRANCE hole waving for help? It would have been too much for their bodies to handle.
@gangstapranksta717 You do realize that thermite is an incendiary and not an explosive right?
The people went to the entrance hole to escape the raging fires *behind* them. When the planes hit they pushed all the office furniture and the like to the other side of the building and that's where the fires were most severe.
@911sausageman Yes I do realize that. Thermite is made to eat through steel. If you attach a bomb to thermite, the thermite is able to do its job. The entrance hole would have been extremely hot, too hot for people to touch or even be near because of the jet fuel......according to official logic. Since they were standing there, the damage was not that bad. If a plane that crashed had jet fuel that was able to melt of weaken a structure, you bet your ass that the ENTRANCE hole would have...
@911sausageman ...been extremely hot. Not hot as the where the impact ended, but it would have been hot, nonetheless...if jet fuel being hot enough to weaken a structure was the case for collapse. Yet, people were grabbing onto the outer layers of the building, waving for help...
@911sausageman Also, if "jet fuel", and the plane crash were the causes of the collapse, then why didn't layers of the structure fall at different times? The upper stories where the plane hit would have fallen first, due to heat and impact, and the lower parts of the structure would have fallen at a later time, unless the top part of the structure would have fallen on PART of the lower structure. Either way, jet fuel heating, and the plane crash impact would have made the top part of the...
@911sausageman ...structure fall AT AN ANGLE, not straight down. Yet, the top stories of a building were able to crash on top of trusses that were welded and bolted with thousands and thousands of bolts.
@gangstapranksta717 Why do you guys always throw out a barrage of non-sense? Just to see if something sticks? Why can't you do your own research instead of watching internet videos?
The tops of the towers did fall at an angle towards the direction where the fires were the heaviest and where structural failure occurred. Interior columns were damaged. Once the exterior columns snapped, the load bearing beams are not going to withstand several hundred thousand tons of building.
@911sausageman Apparently, you didn't read ANY of my posts, or you have piss poor reading comprehension. Not to mention, your only source is the 911 commission lol. The interior core is meant to stand, despite the exterior collapsing. However with 911, it is not the case. The reason why I recommend documentaries to people like you, is because you're too stupid to think for yourself. The media spoonfeeds info to you, so I give info to you in a media format. watch?v=oQLCYR9iROs&feature=related
@gangstapranksta717 I read your posts and answered your lame questions. You mentioned the Commission report so I asked if you read it, which you haven't. You seem to think that it's an engineering report and seeks to explain how the towers collapsed which it doesn't.. You haven't read fuck all pal. You just watch garbage like 9/11 mysteries which is so bad it makes Loose Change look sensible
@911sausageman MY lame questions?!?...lol How about your lame excuses/responses? lol...you're making assumptions...AGAIN. But, how typical of the 9/11 official story believer to pull the "you haven't read the Commission report" card. Is that all you've got?!? You're not winning this debate. I OWN a copy of the Commission report, as well as copies of NIST/UL/FEMA reports of explaining the collapse. The funny thing about a 9/11 official story believer is that none of you guys ever...
@911sausageman You've made stereotypes and insults. Making implications of idiocy or being crazy ARE ad-hominem. Calling someone a cocksucker isn't. You've done nothing EXCEPT ad-hominem and twisting my words.
@911sausageman What are you, black? "I didn't twist any of you words"...and yet, you give me shit. lol! All you've done is rant, troll, and insult. I've countered all of your claims. If I was simply ranting, then why are you still grasping at straws with details of your "official story"? Calling me a wackjob is proof by stereotype and ad-hominem. In essence, you're stating that because you called me a "wackjob", I shouldn't be taken seriously. That is ad-hominem. Try again, pal.
@911sausageman Hey, you're the one who used improper grammar, so I thought you were trying to pull another one of your "he has a "black" screen name, so I'll try to insult him that way" Not to mention, you're the one making (what can be deemed to be) racist comments because of my screen name. If I debate with someone, I expect proper sentence structure and grammar. Otherwise, I'll expect that you're trying to take jabs at my screen name covertly, by way of incomplete sentences or grammar.
@911sausageman It's not desperation. It's that I expect that when I debate with someone, they won't constantly have typos, or that they won't make insults. You've done both on numerous occasions. If you're going to be rude, it's prudent to be correct and presentable.
@911sausageman You need to look up ad-hominem in a dictionary, wikipedia, or someplace else. Calling someone a name is simply name calling. But, you've had repeated instances of using ad-hominem, and calling someone a "wackjob" and then constantly saying or implying that "you don't know shit", makes it ad-hominem. You never watched 911 Mysteries, so your opinion on that doesn't count. Also, saying that someone's comments are garbage, and making the implication that they aren't worth...
@911sausageman ...listening to, whether it was in this post or in a past post, is in fact ad-hominem. I've stated my piece over and over. You've simply critiqued my opinion, and when you add something and I respond back, you either MAKE UP and excuse, or you drop it altogether. So, who has no argument? Couldn't be me...
@911sausageman Also, it's funny how someone who KNOWS that they are losing the argument are the ones who make labels and other types of insults. I got on your nerves and got the better of you, so since you have nothing left in your arsenal of info, you decide to use an insult. It makes you look weak. I makes you look like all hope is lost for your argument, when you add insults.
@gangstapranksta717 It's very typical of 9/11 deniers to think they're winning a debate that they've totally been destroyed in, so I'm not surprised you would say that.
@911sausageman Well, how many "winners" in a debate use constant insults and labels, if they are truly winning? If you were truly winning, you wouldn't have had to rely on insults, since logic will prevail, and the opposition will look dumb by way of their response and your response. But, all you've done is give disinfo, excuses, and finally labels and insults. It's kind of like the 5 stages of death actually.
@gangstapranksta717 Please show me my 'constant insults'. This is your lame tactic to try to run away when you brought out every talking point you know and had it shot down.
All you can do is repeat these things you've heard on these discredited internet videos that you defend even when you know and admitted that you've been manipulated by them.
@gangstapranksta717 You do that. All my typos and insults please. That's much better than simply addressing my points. Does it bother you at all how you've been deceived my 9/11 Mysteries?
@911sausageman I haven't been deceived BY (not my) 9/11 Mysteries. You've been deceived by the media and the govt that want to cover up 9/11, by way of theoretical physics or twisting events of the story. Does that bother you? Hey, living in denial and fighting to be able to live in that denial can be a powerful motivator to believe the official story.
@gangstapranksta717 You plainly admitting the 9/11 Mysteries manipulated the footage from Rick Seigel and you won't admit you've been deceived? I find that very strange. When I have been deceived a feel a sense of outrage. Oh well, I guess you're simply too cocooned in your belief system.
@911sausageman No, I'm not. You're AGAIN for the THIRD time twisting my words. I'll explain it to you in a way that you'll understand. The 9/11 Mysteries was given a copy from Siegel. Sometime after the release of the film, he stated that the film was manipulated. I personally believe it was by the government, giving him a altered new copy and telling him to shut up. If what Siegel was saying was true, there would be a lawsuit. At the very least, the 9/11 Mysteries...
@gangstapranksta717 Gawd.. He has the original with the original sound. If you listen to the 9/11 Mysteries version, you can hear police radios and the sounds of the street. She obviously concocted that 'evidence'. *sigh*
@911sausageman If you lived in New Jersey on the day of 9/11, police were everywhere on the streets in Newark all the way to the Jersey Shore...Try again. I lived there.
@911sausageman Yeah, like on Sept. 10th, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced that $800 billion had gone missing. That money would be able to pay off plenty of people.
@gangstapranksta717 "And no, not hundreds of thousands, but yeah, thousands of people."
Cheney: Here you go Mr. soandso- your cheque for 1 million dollars. All you have to do is say that your fellow firefighters died as a result of a collapsing building due to structural failure and never mention anything about bombs and det cords or anything. Please sign here.
@911sausageman Really?!? That's the best response you could come up with?!? Actually, if it was 10,000 people involved, each would have gotten $80,000,000. If it was 100,000 people involved, each would have received $8,000,000. Anyways, I have to get back to work, so I'll check my messages later.
@gangstapranksta717 My point is that if you believe in these CTs, then you have to believe that conversations like this took place. You don't find that absurd?
@gangstapranksta717 No, that's you. It follows logically that some type of conversation like the one I posted had to have taken place if these theories of yours are true- not just once, but 100,000 times- not just with firefighters- but EMT, family members, witnesses, cleanup crews etc.
@911sausageman No, pal. You just lost the argument (again) right there with that cartoon mockery comparison that you made. I actually have respect for the men and women who died on 9/11, and the families who suffered in the aftermath. You proved that you don't. Shame on you. Anyone who turns an event like this, into a conversation like something you'd hear on Family Guy is someone of low moral standards, who truly doesn't care about 9/11, or even care to research about what really happened.
@gangstapranksta717 So you don't think it's absurd then? If your theory is true, these conversations had to happen. The conspirators are just going to give money to these people without any reason what-so-ever? No. They pay them off to shut them up about what they know and not give away the conspiracy.
I know it and you know it. You just can't face the fact can you?
BTW, I've seen every single one of these stupid CT videos, so just quit telling me to watch them already!
@911sausageman Typical, how typical. Yeah, you did just what I thought. The old "I've seen every video" excuse. Typical official story believer excuse. If you HAD watched the video, ALL of your claims, questions, and excuses would have stifled you, and made you facepalm yourself for your ignorance. But, since you claim that you "watched every single one of these CT videos", it tells me that you're either covertly acknowledging your willful ignorance, or that you're simply here to troll...
@911sausageman ...even when the evidence AGAINST the official story, & the inconsistencies of the official story that are pointed out, you just want to argue, because what better way to want to simply argue, than go on a conspiracy video, & pick a side. Also, it's a CONSPIRACY, not conspiracy theory. If it were a conspiracy theory, there would be not one single piece of evidence.But since there are NUMEROUS pieces of evidence, you're simply displaying what the media/govt bashed into your brain..
@911sausageman ...Also, here's another link: watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ As far as your first statement goes, you take conversations which could have happened, and you turn them into a cartoon, for no other reason than to turn everything into a joke. You're showing more and more of a variation of the 5 stages of death: disinfo, excuses, labels and insults, nonsensical attempts at humor to try to make light of a situation, and finally I've had enough of losing, AKA "I think I'm done with you"...
@911sausageman ...If someone wanted to keep someone or large groups of people quiet, what do you think they would do? Let's use common sense for a minute here, shall we? They would either make subtle threats and pay them off to be quiet, or if that person or people wouldn't comply, then there would be a mysterious accident or suicide. But, they wouldn't want to kill large numbers of people or high profile people, because that would draw too much attention.
@911sausageman Ooooooo......I sure am getting to you!...lol! Now, is it the fact that you're finally coming to your senses that you are losing, the fact that your brain can't contain the denial you've been living in for so long, or both? As far as the firefighters comment went, what I meant, & what I MEAN is that it could be that some of the firefighters at the scene weren't firefighters, but spooks, or that those firefighters were threatened (themselves and family), & that they were paid off...
@911sausageman ...That could be one scenario. Another scenario is that they could have been told disinfo by officials, and they acted under the assumption. See, with things like this, you have to keep EVERY possibility open. With you, you just purposely turned it into a Family Guy cartoon. You simply made light of the situation and 3000 deaths. I have to keep the possibility that numerous people were threatened and paid off...including firefighters! I can't simply pick and choose...
@gangstapranksta717 Blah Blah Blah. Your mouth flaps a lot but nothing meaningful ever comes out. You're completely intellectually dishonest. Yeah, you get to me. I never thought someone could be so stupid and delusional at the same time.
Come to me with some actually theory instead of just twisting my words or willfully misunderstanding them and we'll talk.
Until then, your lame tactics of diversion are useless. You don't have a clue what you're talking about and have only seen internet videos
@911sausageman Running away are you? That happens when someone loses a debate. You added NOTHING to the table, other than things you heard on the news or PRO-911 official story propaganda. All you've done is give disinfo, and when I point it out, you go off in another direction. I'm coming to you right now, and your response is to run away. I made you look like a fool, and you know it, so you're trying to pull the "I beat you in the battle, yet I'm going to retreat" excuse.
@gangstapranksta717 No, I'm pulling the 'I drove a stake through your heart, but you're undead strawman rises up again oblivious to being demolished 10 times over.' I can't be bothered playing 'whack-a-mole' with someone with an inferior intellect who won't respond to evidence and doesn't even know the basics.
Here, you can have the last word so you may pretend you won! Happy delusions!
@911sausageman Nah...you're pulling the "I'm losing terribly, so I'll retreat before I make a bigger idiot out of myself" excuse. Happens every time. I mean, does someone who constantly uses foul language, labels and insults, really qualify as being a winner? Hell, you should rename yourself "strawman", because so many of your posts have consisted of such. But hey!, Happy Denial Day!, where the holiday for you isn't simply on 09/11...
@911sausageman I'm still laughing at how you posted a comment on my profile. Did I get to you that much, troll? I mean, if you put me on your "Wall of Fame", you'd only have people that would be directed to this video, the same video where you made a complete fool of yourself.
@911sausageman Any person who calls themselves "911sausageman" IS a lowlife. Any person like that IS a troll with no sense of reason, or reason to post, except for trolling. Now, what was that you were saying about me being a lowlife, and learn some respect and leave the dead in peace? Maybe you should be mature and grow up, and change your screen name from something other than "911sausageman". You do a disservice to the people who died on that day with that douchy attempt at making light...
@911sausageman ...of 3000 deaths. What sane person would decide to make a Youtube account and go "hmm, I want a unique name that deals with 911, but I want it to sound totally douchy and off-putting"? Who does that?!? Learn some respect, you coward. Yeah, I totally owned you with these 10 posts. Run along, little boy... Run along and believe whatever the govt/media tells you. If you HAD read any of official story/anti-official story books, documentaries, or research, you would have been..
@911sausageman ...better prepared. But, since you didn't, you made yourself look completely clueless, arrogant, and unwilling to open your mind. Thank you for letting me show everyone that.
@gangstapranksta717 How many times do I have to fucking tell you that I've seen all your lame internet videos?
You're a fucking drag and completely unwilling to learn a thing. I'm not here to do your research for you so why don't you learn to use the google instead of ranting about bullshit?
Big smart conceited asshole saw it on the internet.. Must be true! You haven't progressed since post 1. Bye bye G-Dawg.. go shoot your Glock and bitch about the Messicans.
@911sausageman Bye bye, sausage lover! A true sign of a person admitting defeat is withdrawal, but another one is curse words being used towards the end. A true tell tale sign of a defeated person losing one's temper. Call me a drag all you want, but I'm NEVER defeated by 911 official story trolls, who typically have off-putting screen names, such as yours. I have Glocks, but I like my Sigs and H&K's better. Thanks for the concern though! It's truly appreciated!
@911sausageman Here's another video, this time a lecture, about how the "official" story of 9/11 is crap, and he provides plenty of evidence all the way through. But, knowing how predictable you are, you'll ignore it, and you'll simply rant, because hey, that's all you're really here for, and what you really intend to do.
@911sausageman "I'd like to stick my sausage in your mouth if that would make you shut up.", "g-dawg", "I think I hear your herder "alex" calling...", "Why do you guys always throw out a barrage of non-sense?". "I read your posts and answered your lame questions.", "You haven't read fuck all pal. You just watch garbage like 9/11 mysteries which is so bad it makes Loose Change look sensible", "I forgot that you haven't done your research", "Are you dense",...
@911sausageman ..."I hope they're providing adequate doorstops for you", "You can't think for yourself", "I'm calling you a wackjob", "You're wrong AND you're a wackjob!", "I'm saying that your arguments (if one could call them that) are garbage and you have nothing", "And you can think for yourself?! Sure...", "This is your lame tactic to try to run away when you brought out every talking point you know and had it shot down.", "You don't have a clue what you're talking about".
@911sausageman True, but your insults outweigh mine 10 to 1. My point is, I could have still gone on with the insults you made, but I already filled up 2 posts. You spent so much time attacking character, that you didn't have enough time to truly debate. My point also is, people who constantly insult are the ones who are losing the battle. Constant insults aren't needed if you are winning the debate...
@911sausageman ...even read the Commission report, or do your own research. You guys ALL just listen willingly to what the government and media spoonfeed you. I know you didn't watch the 911 Mysteries, because if you had, you would have realized that ALL of your arguments were debunked 10 times over, and you would have felt foolish. But with you, it feels better for you to be naive and troll, rather than have an open mind and THINK for yourself.
@gangstapranksta717 I don't have anyone spoon feed me information. I look at the facts and draw my conclusions *after* I'm satisfied I've done enough research. I've seen all your lame internet videos. You have nothing.
You can't think for yourself and are spoon fed lies by snake oil fearmongers like alex jones.
Really? I guess its better for him to be ignored by those who would off him then to make him non-living and have already suspicious fans solidify their belief in a corrup, power-hungry- global conspiracy. One thing I know is he doesn't manufacture his evidence.
taverned 2 months ago
they already got Bill Cooper i dont think they want to kill all the conspiracy guys cause that might look suspicious
DansFishChannel 3 months ago
There's too much light on him for that.
knjpap 3 months ago
its true... alex jones does reveal a lot of truth... he does expose some gritty shitty shit... but he does work for the same people who did 9/11.
It's not about keeping the truth under wraps... it's about controlling the flow of information.
zakquack 3 months ago
It's called "not wanting to make martyrs". If high profile people like Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones were dying after asking the kinds of questions they do, too many people would be getting suspicious and asking too many questions.
TPTB aren't stupid, you know.
frachris87 4 months ago
@frachris87
Let's face it, when he finally does die, no matter how natural the cause is, people will say he was killed. He could be 90 years old and his heart just gives up and people will claim it was poison or something like that.
With that in mind, wouldn't they rather stop his constant "revealing of their secrets" since he'll be seen as a martyr either way?
stbays 4 months ago
Alex Jones is a NAZI turd!
SirMildred76 4 months ago
I watched your video with the thought that I might be disappointed. Thanks for making me wrong. This is a point that I have made several times, and conspiracy theorists do make utter fools of themselves trying to get around it.
Astrobrant2 5 months ago
Killing Alex Jones would just open him up to a wider audience, and people would just look in to what he says much more than what they do now because they would probably be more likely to believe he's legit. Why in the hell would anyone want to kill him to boost the amount of recognition he get's if he's offering the truth?... that would just be completely retarded, so the statement in this video is just idiotic.
CraigCallister 5 months ago 9
@CraigCallister yeah I guess he is offering the truth, Americans should stay retarded and in denial , thanks craig you fucking dipshit
blackbull420 4 months ago
@CraigCallister alex jones was on national tv once he had a tv show on trutv with jesse ventura.. WTF do u have to say to that... what kind of truther lands a spot on national tv.. ill ttell you whawt kind.. the lying phony kind
DarkprinX2500 4 months ago
@DarkprinX2500
That means absolutely nothing.
CraigCallister 4 months ago
@CraigCallister poor sheeple... dont u know who owns all the mainstream tv networks. .. and even the alternative ones..
DarkprinX2500 4 months ago
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@DarkprinX2500
Whatever!... i hate talking to paranoid people like you who seem to have a fixed mind towards things without looking at other possibilities and reasons. I'm a "sheeple"?... haha, i assure you i'm far from it.
CraigCallister 4 months ago
@CraigCallister this guy is a moron. His videos are totally ass and stupid
IMPAQT 4 months ago
I don't believe he has ever said the bankers and the government where out to get him. Also Alex Jones is prepared for an attempt on his life.
dman0042 5 months ago
@dman0042 Yeah, he has a force field and a tin foil hat!
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@dman0042 "Also Alex Jones is prepared for an attempt on his life."
Most paranoid psychotics are. So what?
Astrobrant2 5 months ago
Hey man, I thought you said 5 secs? This videos 9
Italianlad69 6 months ago
He have "publicity defense"... or... you know what i mean. You know what will happen if they touch him. :)
KBendix 6 months ago
I killed JFK. I staged the moon landing. I rigged Building 7 to fall in a controlled explosion. I know who in the government are Bilderbergers. I started the Bilderbergers. I killed Jimmy Hoffa. I started the Illuminati. I started Opus Dei. I started the Cowsills. GM is a government conspiracy meant to eliminate dwarves on Mars. I know because I was there.
dovie2blue 7 months ago
wow...the stupidity of his is video astounding
TheEots 7 months ago
@TheEots
His or This?
stbays 6 months ago
@stbays This..it is sad that there are those of such limited intellect as to think this is in anyway a valid point
TheEots 6 months ago
@TheEots
Sorry to get picky, but that word did kind of effect the meaning of the sentence.
As for Alex, well I am surprised he hasn't even had a scrap with death. I mean here he is supposedly exposing every dirty secret the government has and there hasn't been so much as a mysterious bum trying to run him over. However it isn't why I question Alex. I have my own reasons that have nothing to do with this video.
stbays 6 months ago
@stbays As far as Alex goes, I understand where you are coming from, but I have a different take on the matter. He has been high profile, ever since 2002-2003. If someone killed him now, it would only give credence to him. There would be a lot more people that would potentially start listening, if something like that ever happened. So, if you leave someone alive, it would make some skeptical about what he says.
gangstapranksta717 6 months ago
@gangstapranksta717
I get that angle too. I'm still surprised an attempt hasn't been made though. Not that I think it'd be the government making the attempt. I just think Alex would probably be the sort to fake it by now.
Sorry, I really have no faith in him. I've just heard him claiming FEMA death camps, war thanks to y2k, and claiming martial law was about to go into full force on 9/11. After a while, I figured out he was probably trying to get people to riot.
stbays 6 months ago 4
@stbays more like end the fed, and 9/11 was a step to martial law, ie the new tsa naked body scanners, if that's not a violation of your civil liberties, these legal gropings, I don't know what is. Don't even get started on passe comentatus, the army can't police it's own citizens act. Fucking Americans, not many of you have woken out of your slumber, but at least some have...
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420
If 911 was a step, then it was a very slow one cause so far we still haven't really seen any signs of it.
As for the "legal gropings" I assume you mean the random searches before boarding a plane, which were going on before 911. I know cause I got picked for one of them. I will say for a random search, both me and the other kid going to the Jobcorps managed to make the list.
Any ways, what ever might be out there, Alex Jones is not the man for the job. I don't trust him.
stbays 4 months ago
@stbays No, not random searches. The TSA NAKED BODY SCANNERS, manage to pick up any news the last year? Jesus, let's start with the passing of the patriot act, since I'm sure your attention span doesn't go past the last episode of survivor. Patriot act 1 and now patriot act 2 which is supported now by the Obama ADM, besides dismantling the bill of rights, it has now made domestic spying legal, which is unconstitutional. So TSA- Legal gropings P.A.1&2 -legal spying CPS- legal kidnappings
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420
Fact is the scanners were inevitable. Their implementation might've been sped up a bit, but I have no doubt they would've come into play eventually.
Not sure why you'd assume I don't know about the Patriot Act. I won't deny, there's a lot about it I don't know, but that's pretty true of most people, including the law makers. When it comes to this topic, I guess I kind of agree with Penn and Teller.
stbays 4 months ago
@stbays Yessss Penn and Teller are funny as hell. I'm not sure HOW you can possibly imagine that the shit they're doing, i.e. NAKED-BODY SCANNERS, not just scanners. (the first two words should set something off) As well as "enhanced searches", which in the real world would be "legal groping."
Now I'm hearing about body-temperature scanners, which could be used as evidence. Apparently the n-b scanners haven't improved security, and that the thermal-scanners are highly inaccurate to intent.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420
Yes I'm aware they show a 3D version of you in all your glory. I also heard the programming had to be altered so it wouldn't show your junk. And yes, I do believe this tech would've shown up in airports eventually.
Penn and Teller did a whole episode on the issue of the Patriot Act for their show "Bullshit". I found it interesting that very few people who voted for it actually read it.
stbays 4 months ago
@blackbull420
Any ways, some where along the line we got really off topic, which is Alex Jones. He's a liar. I even feel he's a crook. He's up to something and if it's not making money, I think he might be the true attempt to incite martial law.
stbays 4 months ago
@stbays I think he's more honest then you give him credit for, he's straight Libertarian / Constitutional. Supports Ron Paul, and if you hear Ron Paul you become convinced. You may need to know some economics to get everything he's saying, but has always had his convictions, never flip-flopped as far as I can tell on any issue but the death penalty. Alex Jones has always stuck to his convictions as well. I look at his documentaries, WACO the video report he did was slow but satisfying.
blackbull420 4 months ago
@blackbull420
My own knowledge of his "honesty" is tech based. More to the point, Y2K. I'm a computer guy and I knew what would and was not likely to happen that day. I also heard what AJ had to say. To this day, I haven't heard him apologize for what I can only imagine were flat out lies he told that day. Even if he simply was misinformed, I'd still expect a retraction.
It's the fact that even the "mainstream" will post retractions when they're wrong. Has AJ?
stbays 4 months ago
You're being intellectually dishonest. I think I'm done with you.
I'll try one more time: Doesn't that seem absurd to you?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Withdrawing from the fight already?!? Aww...come on! Be a good sport, kiddo! There are always losers on the battlefield or debate, and it's always the ones that run off first that are the ones that are the losers, and they know it. The only thing I think is absurd is the fact that you believe the government, thinking "oh, this could never happen!"
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
watch?v=BXw3jJ3021o&feature=related
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Not only have I seen this, I also had the displeasure of actually reading 2 books by David Ray Griffin. He has no equal in the denseness of error and stupidity designed to seem insightful. 1/2 star.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Naw, you haven't read anything by David Ray Griffin. You're just a lying troll. Any of Griffin's books would make your skull cave in.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
why is bill shnoebelen alive? why are a lot of people who have and continue to expose satan still alive??
xSOLIDxBEASTx 8 months ago
if this is the only evidence you have for the government's version of 9/11 then i see why people overseas think we're all idiots. Do some actual research before you try to ridicule a guy that is stating the ugly truth.
fballplayer2324 9 months ago
@fballplayer2324 Actually we think you're idiots because of the truth movement...
wikuk 9 months ago
@fballplayer2324 "Do some actual research..." Yes, we've all seen Loose Change already.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Is that the truth hater's only true retort when it comes to documentaries?!? How about: Zero: An Investigation into 9/11, National Security Alert: Sensitive Information, In Plane Sight, 9/11 Ripple Effect, etc... The list goes on and on. Watch those videos (which debunk 99.9% of your stance), and then get back to me. But we all know that you'll pull the "I've seen those already, and they're crap!" BS, because you don't want to admit that you're wrong, & that you've been had.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 HA! Have you ever picked up a book in your life? It's absolutely hilarious how you guys think watching internet videos constitutes 'research'... which was my point by the way.
gangstapranksta has cracked the case wide open!
I think I hear your herder "alex" calling...
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman You truly are a sad, little man. I mean, why should I take you seriously, when all you do is spend your time trolling videos that don't share your opinion. Documentaries, books, articles, etc... from both sides of the equation are considered research. So, if that's what you mean, then yes I have done my research. It's people like you who are so dumb, that they think that the jet fuel from the plane caused STEEL to melt...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I'm trolling 'videos that don't share my opinion'?! It's you that's on the wrong video, g-dawg.
"people like you who are so dumb, that they think that the jet fuel from the plane caused STEEL to melt..."
YAWN.. same old debunked strawman over and over. Nobody but your ilk ever claimed the steel melted; only that it weakened from the extremely hot, widespread fires. You don't even know the basics but claim to have done your 'research'. Give it a rest dawg.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman If you're going to make a debate, at least be respectful enough to not call me g-dawg or dawg. Otherwise, I'll start referring to you as 69sausageluver. Hell, even your screen name makes you look gay, like you're all about the cock. Look at your profile comments you've made in videos. Look at your screen name. You're the troll, not me. I may make make a comment here and there on an opposition's video, but it's not my life's mission, unlike you.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
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@gangstapranksta717 . "The interior core is meant to stand, despite the exterior collapsing."
er, no. the exterior columns provide a main structural support for the building and attach the floor trusses to the interior columns. Do you just make this shit up as you go along?
I'd like to stick my sausage in your mouth if that would make you shut up.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Really?!? No mainstream media and news ever mention that a plane crash along with the jet fuel melting the structure, caused the structure to go down?!? You're full of shit. All you've done here is read verbatim from the commission report, and make insults. You've done nothing. People who have no defense claim strawman, when they themselves are the ones creating the strawman.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...Not to mention, when that opinion doesn't work, you use the " plane crash, coupled with the fire caused the structure to collapse" excuse. Regardless of the fact that the structure had steel beams, which resembled mesh webbing, which was done to prevent structure failure, you think that a plane that was like a pinprick in the building, was the reason for the collapse. What about the steel core of the building? That had no reason to collapse,...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...since the building was designed to have the floors fall, and leave the steel core intact, for demolition purposes. You have numerous booms even heard on the tv, coming from the buildings, when the building hadn't fallen yet. I could go on and on and school you six ways to sunday, but you're only retort would be the 9/11 commission, or you'd simply troll and call names, without adding to the knowledge base.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Um, the building was designed to fall? Okay.. actually the building was designed so as to maximize floor space by moving interior columns to the core and the facade.
Many 'explosions' were heard between the plane strikes and the collapse... It could be any number of things, such as: oxygen tanks in EMT vehicles and people hitting the ground after jumping.
It's funny how these random 'booms' happen long before the actual collapses...
Have you read the Commission report? ..no.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Every building is designed to fall in a particular matter. I have (and read) a copy of the Commission report, dinkus. Many people have owned or read the report. In fact, many grade schools, high schools, and colleges at the time made it required or recommended reading. "Oxygen tanks exploding", people hitting the ground after jumping"...Really?!? Is that the best explanation that you can come up with?!? Deep booms that shook the ground were...caused by supposed EMT oxygen..
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...tanks, or from suicide jumpers. Let alone, video footage from a guy on the Jersey Shore area who was filming, recorded the WTC attacks, booms and all......from New Jersey. Yet, you believe that oxygen tanks and people jumping was what was recorded in New Jersey. What a complete and utter buffoon you are. Also, it's funny you mention how the booms happen long before the collapse, since my belief is that after the plane hit, bombs with thermite were detonated to heat the...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 You mean Rick Siegel and the wind blowing on his microphone? Right. Strange how the hundreds of other cameras didn't seem to pick that up and they were within a few blocks of the WTC complex.
Real controlled demolitions make a series of BOOMS that everyone would be able to hear for miles; not relatively small, random booms an hour before the collapse. Do you have any comprehension why this makes no sense?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman :facepalm:...Wind blowing in the microphone does not make that type of boom. Anyone who has owned a video camera knows that...sorry, but try again. Strange how there were tv cameras that recorded multiple booms from the base of the WTC. Strange how NUMEROUS reporters commented on bombs being set off, or that they were told by NYFD that there were bombs being set off, so get away. As far as the booms go, it depends on the kg. level. If you could hear booms right near the WTC..
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Oh right! I forgot that you haven't done your research: you see Siegel has a little problem with the way 9/11 mysteries put their own audio onto that clip. That's right! Those are sound effects stuck in there to deceive your little brain. Here: watch?v=RdzpMbV6dXw
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...Really, is that the best you can do?!? Even in the "true" version, you can still hear booms. Also, the sound in the second one is much lighter, as if altered. Nice try, but no cigar.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 the original is most likely wind blowing on the mic like I said before. The 100's of other cameras much closer don't pick up those booms. Explain that, will you?
so.. you just admitted the 9/11 mysteries manipulated their evidence and that you're just fine with this. Exacting standards for 'truth' you got there!
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman As I said before, there were recordings, video cameras, and reporters that all heard it. Many video tapes were bought or confiscated, as is the case with the tapes recording the Pentagon. No, I never admitted that the 9/11 mysteries manipulated anything. You're putting words in my mouth because you have no argument. I said that even on the second recording in the video, you could still hear booms, and also, the sound was much lighter in the 2nd, as if it was tampered with.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ..., & you could still hear booms as far as the Jersey shoreline, that's a telltale sign of bombs being detonated. You have numerous witnesses, including William Rodriguez...you know, the worker at the WTC who saved a bunch of people, and was later made a hero and met G-double-ya. He talked about this in detail about how he heard multiple booms that weren't from boiler rooms,& were above and below him. Do you see how YOU make no sense? Sure you do, but you're just here to troll.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Do you understand what a simile is? Just because people say something sounds like an 'explosion', doesn't make it one.
Will-Rod has continually changed his story.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Do you understand that on 911, people weren't making similies, allegories, metaphors, etc... for what they saw or heard, unless it sounded like something enough for them to really believe that. You either saw/heard something or you didn't. You could say, "hey, it sounded like I heard booms going off because of bombs", but who is going to say something of that magnitude unless they really believed that it sounded like such....
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 No, they say 'it sounded LIKE a big explosion but was the building collapsing' which CTs will misquote as 'it sounded like a big explosion' to push their lying agenda. Read the full firefighter statements. None thought they were because of bombs when you put it in context.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Here we go again...you have plenty of people who weren't in the buildings who thought that the booms were bombs. Then, you have firefighters telling a couple of individuals ON CAMERA, to keep away from the building because there was a second bomb in the building. Then, you have numerous reports initially on the news of a white van in the parking garage basement that had a bomb in it. Then, all of a sudden, you never heard them talk of it again, even to clarify.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 The firefighters pulled everyone back from buiding 7 at around 2PM. It's because they knew the building was coming down: it was creaking, leaning and had massive fires with at least 10 stories gouged out on it's south face.
As for other accounts. There was a bomb scare at a school down the street that truthers like to misrepresent as being at the WTC. Also, the fog of war. Ever hear of it?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Yet, Larry Silverstein told them to "pull it". Later, he claimed that he was talking about getting the firefighters out, when they were out of the building for some time. lol...the "there was a bomb scare at a school" excuse. How typical and funny! The "fog of war" has nothing to do with what we're talking about... Ever hear of...staying on topic and not adding in useless garbage to attempt to make yourself feel smart?
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Right. 'pull it'. the term that no single Controlled Demolition company has ever heard of.
The firefighters, EMT workers etc. were still around the building. That's who is being 'pulled'.
It was chaos that day in case you missed it.. hence there was many false reports about many things. This is the way the real world works.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Yeah, you're wrong. Talk to crane operators, iron workers, people who work for demolition companies (such as Controlled Demolition, Inc.) The term "pull it" is commonplace terminology in that field. It's like calling a handgun magazine a "clip". It's all just various "slang" nomenclature for the same thing. See, another ad-hominem that you pulled. The "I'm losing badly, so I'll try to insult his intelligence, since I already called him a wackjob" technique. You proved my point.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Here. Straight from Brett Blanchard of Controlled Demolition Inc:
"We have never once heard the term "pull it" being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we've spoken with."
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Of course you're going to have companies and spokespeople fitting into the party line. Try talking to demolition workers, iron workers, crane operators. They are not hard to find. I've had quite a few tell me that it's slang for pulling the plug; a demolition.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 The old truther stand by: if someone disagrees with them they must be paid off/lackeys/insiders. blah blah blah. Here it is, straight from Controlled Demolition themselves, that that term is NOT used and you just can't accept it.
I can find you loads of others in the biz that say the same thing. Are they towing the party line too?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman One thing you'll learn in the real world is that while at your job, if you go against what the govt says (for instance 9/11), it can mean your job, or it can mean that you're blacklisted. I don't believe that they are "in on it", per se. I believe that they feel it's better to tow the party line and mind your own business, especially when you deal with government contracts, or you're at their leniency.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Since you believe that Larry Silverstein gave the 'pull it' order to the fire department, you must believe that the FDNY was in on it and are skilled in controlled demolition then destroyed building 7.
Please explain to me how this makes any sense.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman I believe those people who were told the order were either not "true" firefighters, or that they were paid off, or they were threatened, or even misled. Hell, they could have been told that someone found explosives planted in the building, and since there was "so much damage and loss of life", the bomb was detonated rather than have a bomb squad come in to disarm it. I mean, how many firefighters & personnel would have questioned structural integrity on that day after that event?
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Those firefighters sure make an awful lot of money.. Oh wait, they don't get paid shit. I wonder if just one single one of them will come forward to write a book on the bombs in the building and make a few million? HMMM
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...would have had to take the footage down, since if Siegel had a rock solid case, the footage would have been down.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman :facepalm:...Have you heard of "under the table" deals? Or, do you think that they get six figure raises? Also, in this day and age, anything that isn't along the lines of the official story isn't something that gets written or has a movie made out of it. You have publishers and movie execs that don't want to get sued because of a book or movie that controversial.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Not so. If someone had some inside information that could be corroborated, they would be sitting on the story of the Millennium and would stand to get rich, famous and have awards plastered all over them.
10 years later... not one single person has come forward to say that they took part in this conspiracy.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Because how many people want to do something that makes the govt look bad, and have to worry about getting thrown in jail or getting killed. I mean, if the govt was involved and someone had the inside scoop that they were going to release, do you think the govt would say "Ok, you got us", or do you think "silencing" would be involved?
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman If someone came forward who took part in this conspiracy, they'd have so many accounts of treason, premeditated murder, etc... they'd either end up in life terms in prison 1000 times over, or they'd be executed. They wouldn't be awarded or anything. Witnesses who have come forward have only been belittled.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Ah...the "witness changed his story" excuse. After time, many witnesses are able to remember events more clearly, since they aren't in the heat of the moment. Also, Rodriguez's story has pretty much stayed the same. He still rescued people, he still heard booms, etc... The media is the one who altered his story, when interviewing him many times, in order for it to fit the official story for them.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...steel, aiding the jet fuel, just enough for it to melt. If the jet fuel and crash ALONE did the trick of bringing the buildings down, then why were there people AT THE ENTRANCE hole waving for help? It would have been too much for their bodies to handle.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 You do realize that thermite is an incendiary and not an explosive right?
The people went to the entrance hole to escape the raging fires *behind* them. When the planes hit they pushed all the office furniture and the like to the other side of the building and that's where the fires were most severe.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Yes I do realize that. Thermite is made to eat through steel. If you attach a bomb to thermite, the thermite is able to do its job. The entrance hole would have been extremely hot, too hot for people to touch or even be near because of the jet fuel......according to official logic. Since they were standing there, the damage was not that bad. If a plane that crashed had jet fuel that was able to melt of weaken a structure, you bet your ass that the ENTRANCE hole would have...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...been extremely hot. Not hot as the where the impact ended, but it would have been hot, nonetheless...if jet fuel being hot enough to weaken a structure was the case for collapse. Yet, people were grabbing onto the outer layers of the building, waving for help...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
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@gangstapranksta717 I just explained this to you. Are you dense? Or just 'asking questions, never recognizing answers'.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Also, if "jet fuel", and the plane crash were the causes of the collapse, then why didn't layers of the structure fall at different times? The upper stories where the plane hit would have fallen first, due to heat and impact, and the lower parts of the structure would have fallen at a later time, unless the top part of the structure would have fallen on PART of the lower structure. Either way, jet fuel heating, and the plane crash impact would have made the top part of the...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...structure fall AT AN ANGLE, not straight down. Yet, the top stories of a building were able to crash on top of trusses that were welded and bolted with thousands and thousands of bolts.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Why do you guys always throw out a barrage of non-sense? Just to see if something sticks? Why can't you do your own research instead of watching internet videos?
The tops of the towers did fall at an angle towards the direction where the fires were the heaviest and where structural failure occurred. Interior columns were damaged. Once the exterior columns snapped, the load bearing beams are not going to withstand several hundred thousand tons of building.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Apparently, you didn't read ANY of my posts, or you have piss poor reading comprehension. Not to mention, your only source is the 911 commission lol. The interior core is meant to stand, despite the exterior collapsing. However with 911, it is not the case. The reason why I recommend documentaries to people like you, is because you're too stupid to think for yourself. The media spoonfeeds info to you, so I give info to you in a media format. watch?v=oQLCYR9iROs&feature=related
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I read your posts and answered your lame questions. You mentioned the Commission report so I asked if you read it, which you haven't. You seem to think that it's an engineering report and seeks to explain how the towers collapsed which it doesn't.. You haven't read fuck all pal. You just watch garbage like 9/11 mysteries which is so bad it makes Loose Change look sensible
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman MY lame questions?!?...lol How about your lame excuses/responses? lol...you're making assumptions...AGAIN. But, how typical of the 9/11 official story believer to pull the "you haven't read the Commission report" card. Is that all you've got?!? You're not winning this debate. I OWN a copy of the Commission report, as well as copies of NIST/UL/FEMA reports of explaining the collapse. The funny thing about a 9/11 official story believer is that none of you guys ever...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I hope they're providing adequate doorstops for you.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman The "I have no real argument, and I'm losing this debate, so I'll start making ad-hominem attacks" tactic. How clever of you! lol
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I'm totally loosing a debate to someone that doesn't even know what an ad hominem is?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman You've made stereotypes and insults. Making implications of idiocy or being crazy ARE ad-hominem. Calling someone a cocksucker isn't. You've done nothing EXCEPT ad-hominem and twisting my words.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I didn't twist any of you words. You have ignored all my points and seem to just rant.
I'm calling you a wackjob. That's a statement of fact. If I said you're a wackjob therefore you're wrong, then that's an ad hominem.
You're wrong AND you're a wackjob!
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman What are you, black? "I didn't twist any of you words"...and yet, you give me shit. lol! All you've done is rant, troll, and insult. I've countered all of your claims. If I was simply ranting, then why are you still grasping at straws with details of your "official story"? Calling me a wackjob is proof by stereotype and ad-hominem. In essence, you're stating that because you called me a "wackjob", I shouldn't be taken seriously. That is ad-hominem. Try again, pal.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Nice! Racism! Are you you guys racist? Seems like it.
You think you know everything but you don't know shit. I explained what an ad hom is and you still don't get it.
I've explained everything to you here like your 9/11 Mysteries being manipulated garbage and you just ignore it all and keep on blathering non sense.
I'm saying that your arguments (if one could call them that) are garbage and you have nothing. Not ad hom.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Hey, you're the one who used improper grammar, so I thought you were trying to pull another one of your "he has a "black" screen name, so I'll try to insult him that way" Not to mention, you're the one making (what can be deemed to be) racist comments because of my screen name. If I debate with someone, I expect proper sentence structure and grammar. Otherwise, I'll expect that you're trying to take jabs at my screen name covertly, by way of incomplete sentences or grammar.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Forgetting to add a r to you is a TYPO! You're getting really desperate now.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman It's not desperation. It's that I expect that when I debate with someone, they won't constantly have typos, or that they won't make insults. You've done both on numerous occasions. If you're going to be rude, it's prudent to be correct and presentable.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman You need to look up ad-hominem in a dictionary, wikipedia, or someplace else. Calling someone a name is simply name calling. But, you've had repeated instances of using ad-hominem, and calling someone a "wackjob" and then constantly saying or implying that "you don't know shit", makes it ad-hominem. You never watched 911 Mysteries, so your opinion on that doesn't count. Also, saying that someone's comments are garbage, and making the implication that they aren't worth...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...listening to, whether it was in this post or in a past post, is in fact ad-hominem. I've stated my piece over and over. You've simply critiqued my opinion, and when you add something and I respond back, you either MAKE UP and excuse, or you drop it altogether. So, who has no argument? Couldn't be me...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Also, it's funny how someone who KNOWS that they are losing the argument are the ones who make labels and other types of insults. I got on your nerves and got the better of you, so since you have nothing left in your arsenal of info, you decide to use an insult. It makes you look weak. I makes you look like all hope is lost for your argument, when you add insults.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman To answer your question, yes, you are losing this debate.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 It's very typical of 9/11 deniers to think they're winning a debate that they've totally been destroyed in, so I'm not surprised you would say that.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Well, how many "winners" in a debate use constant insults and labels, if they are truly winning? If you were truly winning, you wouldn't have had to rely on insults, since logic will prevail, and the opposition will look dumb by way of their response and your response. But, all you've done is give disinfo, excuses, and finally labels and insults. It's kind of like the 5 stages of death actually.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Please show me my 'constant insults'. This is your lame tactic to try to run away when you brought out every talking point you know and had it shot down.
All you can do is repeat these things you've heard on these discredited internet videos that you defend even when you know and admitted that you've been manipulated by them.
And you can think for yourself?! Sure...
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman This is going to take quite a while, but I'll compile a list.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 You do that. All my typos and insults please. That's much better than simply addressing my points. Does it bother you at all how you've been deceived my 9/11 Mysteries?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman I haven't been deceived BY (not my) 9/11 Mysteries. You've been deceived by the media and the govt that want to cover up 9/11, by way of theoretical physics or twisting events of the story. Does that bother you? Hey, living in denial and fighting to be able to live in that denial can be a powerful motivator to believe the official story.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 You plainly admitting the 9/11 Mysteries manipulated the footage from Rick Seigel and you won't admit you've been deceived? I find that very strange. When I have been deceived a feel a sense of outrage. Oh well, I guess you're simply too cocooned in your belief system.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman No, I'm not. You're AGAIN for the THIRD time twisting my words. I'll explain it to you in a way that you'll understand. The 9/11 Mysteries was given a copy from Siegel. Sometime after the release of the film, he stated that the film was manipulated. I personally believe it was by the government, giving him a altered new copy and telling him to shut up. If what Siegel was saying was true, there would be a lawsuit. At the very least, the 9/11 Mysteries...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Gawd.. He has the original with the original sound. If you listen to the 9/11 Mysteries version, you can hear police radios and the sounds of the street. She obviously concocted that 'evidence'. *sigh*
Quit making excuses for her.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman If you lived in New Jersey on the day of 9/11, police were everywhere on the streets in Newark all the way to the Jersey Shore...Try again. I lived there.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 for your theory to work it would involve paying off or silencing an awful lot of people.
At least hundreds of thousands would have to be in on it.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Yeah, like on Sept. 10th, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced that $800 billion had gone missing. That money would be able to pay off plenty of people.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
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@gangstapranksta717 "And no, not hundreds of thousands, but yeah, thousands of people."
Cheney: Here you go Mr. soandso- your cheque for 1 million dollars. All you have to do is say that your fellow firefighters died as a result of a collapsing building due to structural failure and never mention anything about bombs and det cords or anything. Please sign here.
Firefighter: Of course...
Cheney and Firefighter: MWAHAHA
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Really?!? That's the best response you could come up with?!? Actually, if it was 10,000 people involved, each would have gotten $80,000,000. If it was 100,000 people involved, each would have received $8,000,000. Anyways, I have to get back to work, so I'll check my messages later.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 My point is that if you believe in these CTs, then you have to believe that conversations like this took place. You don't find that absurd?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman There is no point to that. You're turning a sickening event into a cartoon.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 No, that's you. It follows logically that some type of conversation like the one I posted had to have taken place if these theories of yours are true- not just once, but 100,000 times- not just with firefighters- but EMT, family members, witnesses, cleanup crews etc.
You don't find that absurd?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman No, pal. You just lost the argument (again) right there with that cartoon mockery comparison that you made. I actually have respect for the men and women who died on 9/11, and the families who suffered in the aftermath. You proved that you don't. Shame on you. Anyone who turns an event like this, into a conversation like something you'd hear on Family Guy is someone of low moral standards, who truly doesn't care about 9/11, or even care to research about what really happened.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 So you don't think it's absurd then? If your theory is true, these conversations had to happen. The conspirators are just going to give money to these people without any reason what-so-ever? No. They pay them off to shut them up about what they know and not give away the conspiracy.
I know it and you know it. You just can't face the fact can you?
BTW, I've seen every single one of these stupid CT videos, so just quit telling me to watch them already!
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Typical, how typical. Yeah, you did just what I thought. The old "I've seen every video" excuse. Typical official story believer excuse. If you HAD watched the video, ALL of your claims, questions, and excuses would have stifled you, and made you facepalm yourself for your ignorance. But, since you claim that you "watched every single one of these CT videos", it tells me that you're either covertly acknowledging your willful ignorance, or that you're simply here to troll...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...even when the evidence AGAINST the official story, & the inconsistencies of the official story that are pointed out, you just want to argue, because what better way to want to simply argue, than go on a conspiracy video, & pick a side. Also, it's a CONSPIRACY, not conspiracy theory. If it were a conspiracy theory, there would be not one single piece of evidence.But since there are NUMEROUS pieces of evidence, you're simply displaying what the media/govt bashed into your brain..
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...Also, here's another link: watch?v=8XRMrMdn0NQ As far as your first statement goes, you take conversations which could have happened, and you turn them into a cartoon, for no other reason than to turn everything into a joke. You're showing more and more of a variation of the 5 stages of death: disinfo, excuses, labels and insults, nonsensical attempts at humor to try to make light of a situation, and finally I've had enough of losing, AKA "I think I'm done with you"...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...If someone wanted to keep someone or large groups of people quiet, what do you think they would do? Let's use common sense for a minute here, shall we? They would either make subtle threats and pay them off to be quiet, or if that person or people wouldn't comply, then there would be a mysterious accident or suicide. But, they wouldn't want to kill large numbers of people or high profile people, because that would draw too much attention.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Drop the phony indignation you low life!
The guy that says firefighters and victims families are paid off! You should shut your fucking mouth asshole.
Learn some respect and leave the dead in peace!
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Ooooooo......I sure am getting to you!...lol! Now, is it the fact that you're finally coming to your senses that you are losing, the fact that your brain can't contain the denial you've been living in for so long, or both? As far as the firefighters comment went, what I meant, & what I MEAN is that it could be that some of the firefighters at the scene weren't firefighters, but spooks, or that those firefighters were threatened (themselves and family), & that they were paid off...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...That could be one scenario. Another scenario is that they could have been told disinfo by officials, and they acted under the assumption. See, with things like this, you have to keep EVERY possibility open. With you, you just purposely turned it into a Family Guy cartoon. You simply made light of the situation and 3000 deaths. I have to keep the possibility that numerous people were threatened and paid off...including firefighters! I can't simply pick and choose...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Blah Blah Blah. Your mouth flaps a lot but nothing meaningful ever comes out. You're completely intellectually dishonest. Yeah, you get to me. I never thought someone could be so stupid and delusional at the same time.
Come to me with some actually theory instead of just twisting my words or willfully misunderstanding them and we'll talk.
Until then, your lame tactics of diversion are useless. You don't have a clue what you're talking about and have only seen internet videos
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Running away are you? That happens when someone loses a debate. You added NOTHING to the table, other than things you heard on the news or PRO-911 official story propaganda. All you've done is give disinfo, and when I point it out, you go off in another direction. I'm coming to you right now, and your response is to run away. I made you look like a fool, and you know it, so you're trying to pull the "I beat you in the battle, yet I'm going to retreat" excuse.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 No, I'm pulling the 'I drove a stake through your heart, but you're undead strawman rises up again oblivious to being demolished 10 times over.' I can't be bothered playing 'whack-a-mole' with someone with an inferior intellect who won't respond to evidence and doesn't even know the basics.
Here, you can have the last word so you may pretend you won! Happy delusions!
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Nah...you're pulling the "I'm losing terribly, so I'll retreat before I make a bigger idiot out of myself" excuse. Happens every time. I mean, does someone who constantly uses foul language, labels and insults, really qualify as being a winner? Hell, you should rename yourself "strawman", because so many of your posts have consisted of such. But hey!, Happy Denial Day!, where the holiday for you isn't simply on 09/11...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman I'm still laughing at how you posted a comment on my profile. Did I get to you that much, troll? I mean, if you put me on your "Wall of Fame", you'd only have people that would be directed to this video, the same video where you made a complete fool of yourself.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Any person who calls themselves "911sausageman" IS a lowlife. Any person like that IS a troll with no sense of reason, or reason to post, except for trolling. Now, what was that you were saying about me being a lowlife, and learn some respect and leave the dead in peace? Maybe you should be mature and grow up, and change your screen name from something other than "911sausageman". You do a disservice to the people who died on that day with that douchy attempt at making light...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...of 3000 deaths. What sane person would decide to make a Youtube account and go "hmm, I want a unique name that deals with 911, but I want it to sound totally douchy and off-putting"? Who does that?!? Learn some respect, you coward. Yeah, I totally owned you with these 10 posts. Run along, little boy... Run along and believe whatever the govt/media tells you. If you HAD read any of official story/anti-official story books, documentaries, or research, you would have been..
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...better prepared. But, since you didn't, you made yourself look completely clueless, arrogant, and unwilling to open your mind. Thank you for letting me show everyone that.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Also, here's another video: watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 How many times do I have to fucking tell you that I've seen all your lame internet videos?
You're a fucking drag and completely unwilling to learn a thing. I'm not here to do your research for you so why don't you learn to use the google instead of ranting about bullshit?
Big smart conceited asshole saw it on the internet.. Must be true! You haven't progressed since post 1. Bye bye G-Dawg.. go shoot your Glock and bitch about the Messicans.
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Bye bye, sausage lover! A true sign of a person admitting defeat is withdrawal, but another one is curse words being used towards the end. A true tell tale sign of a defeated person losing one's temper. Call me a drag all you want, but I'm NEVER defeated by 911 official story trolls, who typically have off-putting screen names, such as yours. I have Glocks, but I like my Sigs and H&K's better. Thanks for the concern though! It's truly appreciated!
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Here's another: watch?v=-2xi_ZNkz1g
AND, here's another: watch?v=NURfUiAMn6g
Enjoy!
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman Here's another video, this time a lecture, about how the "official" story of 9/11 is crap, and he provides plenty of evidence all the way through. But, knowing how predictable you are, you'll ignore it, and you'll simply rant, because hey, that's all you're really here for, and what you really intend to do.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman And no, not hundreds of thousands, but yeah, thousands of people.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman "I'd like to stick my sausage in your mouth if that would make you shut up.", "g-dawg", "I think I hear your herder "alex" calling...", "Why do you guys always throw out a barrage of non-sense?". "I read your posts and answered your lame questions.", "You haven't read fuck all pal. You just watch garbage like 9/11 mysteries which is so bad it makes Loose Change look sensible", "I forgot that you haven't done your research", "Are you dense",...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ..."I hope they're providing adequate doorstops for you", "You can't think for yourself", "I'm calling you a wackjob", "You're wrong AND you're a wackjob!", "I'm saying that your arguments (if one could call them that) are garbage and you have nothing", "And you can think for yourself?! Sure...", "This is your lame tactic to try to run away when you brought out every talking point you know and had it shot down.", "You don't have a clue what you're talking about".
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 "You truly are a sad, little man." "troll" "naive"
I could go on too, but really why don't you respond to my questions like I have yours?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman True, but your insults outweigh mine 10 to 1. My point is, I could have still gone on with the insults you made, but I already filled up 2 posts. You spent so much time attacking character, that you didn't have enough time to truly debate. My point also is, people who constantly insult are the ones who are losing the battle. Constant insults aren't needed if you are winning the debate...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 Maybe you need to be intellectually honest and you won't be insulted?
911sausageman 8 months ago
@911sausageman Maybe you need to learn how to be mature and answer questions and responses in a decent manner...
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@911sausageman ...even read the Commission report, or do your own research. You guys ALL just listen willingly to what the government and media spoonfeed you. I know you didn't watch the 911 Mysteries, because if you had, you would have realized that ALL of your arguments were debunked 10 times over, and you would have felt foolish. But with you, it feels better for you to be naive and troll, rather than have an open mind and THINK for yourself.
gangstapranksta717 8 months ago
@gangstapranksta717 I don't have anyone spoon feed me information. I look at the facts and draw my conclusions *after* I'm satisfied I've done enough research. I've seen all your lame internet videos. You have nothing.
You can't think for yourself and are spoon fed lies by snake oil fearmongers like alex jones.
911sausageman 8 months ago