Greenstreet's blustery Englishness contrasts nicely with Bogart's wisecracking style as they vie for cynicism. But then we have a flash of the integrity at the core of Spade's character when he says: 'I know the value in human life you people put on it'.
The jewel in the crown of the golden age of movie making. I have only ever seen SG in this and Casablanca but his performance in both films is utterly magical and memorable. I doubt that today's actors could say these lines with conviction - the dialogue was of its time and in the mouths of these monumental talents completely believable. Bogey plays Bogey better than anyone else and when he's on screen you just can't take your eyes off him. The camera work is excellent too.
@zthetha I would highly recommend you see "The Mask of Dimitrios", starring Greenstreet and Lorre in another great noir tale. They made an excellent pair,
Apparently, Dashiell Hammet implied in the book that Gutman and Cairo were both gay. The movie makes some subtle and not-so-subtle references to this (such as Cairo's perfume-infested business card), but for censorship reasons, it's nothing overt.
@RushLimborg - Also, Spade uses the word "gunsel" when talking about Wilmer. The word sounds like being a hitman or bodyguard. It really means the young companion of an older homosexual.
Yep. Although, it's possible Spade just says that to get Wilmer even more worked up. Note that the first time Spade calls him that (at the end of this scene) is when he's doing his "angry rant".
You are witness to a pivotal cultural moment: Prior to the novel, and this movie version, "gunsel" was a yiddish word meaning exactly what you've said it means, as was Hammett's intent. Almost immediately after the success of the novel, and this film, it ever after came to mean "hired gun." The public perception/consciousness changed the meaning, historically speaking, overnight.
This film is in my Top Ten. Greenstreet was an almost entirely unknown British stage actor at the time. Did he get Best Supporting Actor for this role.
Mr. Gutman...what a perfect name for Sydney Greenstreet aka The Fat Man. The best Bogart movie ever, IMHO. I love the story in this one and the acting is top notch. I also love the way they park the camera down so you are looking up at SG's enormous frame. That laugh is timeless as well.
Love the movie - I wish someone would put the whole thing back on YouTube. One very trivial question - I smoke cigars, and every so often, you need to flick the ashes somewhere: ashtray, the ground, somebody's hand, etc. There's some long ashes at the end of Gutman's cigar, and I know he's too refined to flick 'em on the floor, but I don't see an ashtray. Where's he gonna get rid of 'em?
@WSenator1 also...i didn'y notice either bogey or gutman bite off or puncture the end off those cigars. Fine cigars of that era (and I do assume they were fine as he is a rich man)....probably cubans you would have certainly needed to do that
Certainly, one of the most elegant scenes in the film. Bogart's character feigns a temper tantrum. Even so, one of the best lines is, "mathematically correct, sir," in response to, "tell me, and we'll both know." Classic!
@tumadoireacht I agree with you absolutely! The dialogue and script in this film is riveting and exquisite. I'm afraid the emphasis these days is on the visual aspect and less importance is placed on an intelligent dialogue. Alas, but at that time, films were derived from classic literature instead of comic books and cartoons. lol
wow just like the book!
doctorw2 3 weeks ago
"You got til' five o'clock, Do you hear me?! You got til' five o'clock."
"You're a freaking psychopath!!"
mrfixxxer118 2 months ago
They don't make films like this anymore...that's such a shame...
nexusg5 3 months ago
Yeah baby that fat dude got schooled by my man Bogart.
MegaPatriot123 3 months ago
Greenstreet's blustery Englishness contrasts nicely with Bogart's wisecracking style as they vie for cynicism. But then we have a flash of the integrity at the core of Spade's character when he says: 'I know the value in human life you people put on it'.
jahaniman 4 months ago
The jewel in the crown of the golden age of movie making. I have only ever seen SG in this and Casablanca but his performance in both films is utterly magical and memorable. I doubt that today's actors could say these lines with conviction - the dialogue was of its time and in the mouths of these monumental talents completely believable. Bogey plays Bogey better than anyone else and when he's on screen you just can't take your eyes off him. The camera work is excellent too.
zthetha 4 months ago
@zthetha I would highly recommend you see "The Mask of Dimitrios", starring Greenstreet and Lorre in another great noir tale. They made an excellent pair,
Mality 1 month ago
Was there actor deficit or something ? Why are there always the same actors in movies of that time. Good actors nonetheless.
bbbthesplendid 5 months ago
Wilmer has to service the fatman.
billthestinker 6 months ago
I just finished reading the book. It's awesome how well the movie captured the writing.
MBaxtonM 6 months ago
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guitarlegionleader 6 months ago
his voice is truly penetrating
arwaisquablock 7 months ago
@arwaisquablock Just like a penis!
guitarlegionleader 6 months ago
Kasper Gutman, the original Fat Man and one of the best villains in film history.
JimmySteller 7 months ago
My first crush. Had a life size poster of him. Tata was charlie chaplin & albert einstein
depechemiami 9 months ago
Hemingway's "grace under pressure".
oceanliving10 10 months ago
Note how Gutman holds onto Spade's arm as they walk to the seating....
RushLimborg 10 months ago
@RushLimborg I never noticed that. What's it supposed to mean?
MisterWordman 9 months ago
@MisterWordman
Apparently, Dashiell Hammet implied in the book that Gutman and Cairo were both gay. The movie makes some subtle and not-so-subtle references to this (such as Cairo's perfume-infested business card), but for censorship reasons, it's nothing overt.
RushLimborg 9 months ago
@RushLimborg Wow, interesting. I love small touches like that.
MisterWordman 9 months ago
@RushLimborg - Also, Spade uses the word "gunsel" when talking about Wilmer. The word sounds like being a hitman or bodyguard. It really means the young companion of an older homosexual.
WSenator1 9 months ago
@WSenator1
Yep. Although, it's possible Spade just says that to get Wilmer even more worked up. Note that the first time Spade calls him that (at the end of this scene) is when he's doing his "angry rant".
RushLimborg 9 months ago
@WSenator1
You are witness to a pivotal cultural moment: Prior to the novel, and this movie version, "gunsel" was a yiddish word meaning exactly what you've said it means, as was Hammett's intent. Almost immediately after the success of the novel, and this film, it ever after came to mean "hired gun." The public perception/consciousness changed the meaning, historically speaking, overnight.
tuxguys 6 months ago
This film is in my Top Ten. Greenstreet was an almost entirely unknown British stage actor at the time. Did he get Best Supporting Actor for this role.
robertschelly 1 year ago
Mr. Gutman...what a perfect name for Sydney Greenstreet aka The Fat Man. The best Bogart movie ever, IMHO. I love the story in this one and the acting is top notch. I also love the way they park the camera down so you are looking up at SG's enormous frame. That laugh is timeless as well.
storrs19 1 year ago 10
the camera angle on Gutman is good stuff.
someonespadre 1 year ago 4
Love the movie - I wish someone would put the whole thing back on YouTube. One very trivial question - I smoke cigars, and every so often, you need to flick the ashes somewhere: ashtray, the ground, somebody's hand, etc. There's some long ashes at the end of Gutman's cigar, and I know he's too refined to flick 'em on the floor, but I don't see an ashtray. Where's he gonna get rid of 'em?
WSenator1 1 year ago
@WSenator1 theres a clear glass ashtray on the table you can see it at 1:28
reptarthe9th 8 months ago
@reptarthe9th - Thanks for the info. take care and have a good day!
WSenator1 8 months ago
@WSenator1 also...i didn'y notice either bogey or gutman bite off or puncture the end off those cigars. Fine cigars of that era (and I do assume they were fine as he is a rich man)....probably cubans you would have certainly needed to do that
inkey2 2 months ago
Certainly, one of the most elegant scenes in the film. Bogart's character feigns a temper tantrum. Even so, one of the best lines is, "mathematically correct, sir," in response to, "tell me, and we'll both know." Classic!
christopherm2k 2 years ago
@christopherm2k I wish they had actors of this calibre today-when was talent swapped for pretty talentless six packs like clooney and colin farrell ?
tumadoireacht 1 year ago
@tumadoireacht I agree with you absolutely! The dialogue and script in this film is riveting and exquisite. I'm afraid the emphasis these days is on the visual aspect and less importance is placed on an intelligent dialogue. Alas, but at that time, films were derived from classic literature instead of comic books and cartoons. lol
christopherm2k 1 year ago