two great sports (from someone who has actually played both). From a collision standpoint, the hits in American football are a bit more traumatic because they come from greater distance and higher speeds, but the rugby collisions were more constant. Id have more bumps/scrapes after rugby than football. My football injuries were more serious: concussions, broken hands, cracked sternum. Also, please enough with calling footballer fat. That is only one position. The rest are world class athlete
No doubt this isn't top level. Athletically, and defensively speaking, he could probably compete at the top level given some training. Not sure how well he'd fair at 30+ and not already knowing the game intuitively.
Dhani is a solid, but older Linebacker. Just pointing out that NFL players could easily compete on a rugby pitch given training.
The games aren't terribly far apart.
I would argue it's easier to go from Am. Football to Rugby than the other way around.
He's an athlete, so no doubt he could, but the aerobic/ anaerobic demands of each sport are totally different. Someone like Shawn Merriman is totally stacked, but would he still be that shape if he trained for the elite endurance a rugby player requires?
More and more elite rugby players can bench and squat NFL weights, specially Polynesians, but they often have to be told to tone it down 'cos they sacrifice endurance.
There are certain positions that translate well both ways. LB(Dhani Jones) RB, WR, TE, DE, Safety, CB, FB. Most of what we call the 'skill' positions in the football.
While rugby requires endurance, most of the positions which would translate to rugby aren't terrible 'stacked' or large. I don't think the endurance would be something they couldn't overcome.
And the reason I say it would be easier to go from Am. Football to rugby is because their is less technical aspects to learn in Rugby.
I think it would be very difficult for most players to go between sports at elite level. You're coming up against guys who are basically international class athletes and they have played their respective sports all their lives. Rugby also has skill positions - e.g. an NFL safety or CB can tackle and cover, but can he punt and pass like a rugby back 3 player, and can he choose each option at the right time? It takes years of practice. LB or TEs could probably change, but apart from that......
What I am saying, is there there are more skill positions in football which require very unique skill sets.
I think the punting would be harder than the passing to be honest. In rugby everyone makes passes. Decision making and punting is more important in that situation.
I guess I am saying there is a wider variety of skill positions in football.
Both are tough, brutal sports. Neither is soft or easy to play.
The one thing which binds both sports together is the physical bravery required to play at the top level. These guys are hardass and they have their bodies broken. Aside from that the two sports are very different. If Dhani had played the entire 80, even at that level, he would have been completely wasted. Now take Dhani aged 7 and train him for rugby, and you'd have a future rugby star on your hands, no doubt..... but aged 32..or even 25?!?!
Am. Football players have INCREDIBLE endurance though. Teams pick players based on athleticism first, and then skill later, a team will take the far more athletic, faster, player with more endurance long before they will take a skilled, slow guy.
To be in the NFL you have to in the top 5% of athletes in the world in every regard if you're playing a skill position. I've even been beat sprinting against an offensive lineman, I was surprised.
The aerobic endurance of top rugby players is elite - guys who weigh 250lbs+, can bench and squat over 400lbs and they can run 2 x miles in less than 12 minutes. It's a completely different athetic emphasis, Am. Football is all about speed, in rugby speed v. endurance are of equal importance.
There's a reason the NFL hires the best trainers in the world to train their athletes. There is no different athletic emphasis, in Am. Football you train until you drop, in every single aspect of training you are trained. There is no, we'll work on sprints, and lift weights. There's so much damn cardio and everything else thrown in the mix.
This is why you even see some NFL players fighting professionally.
The endurance requirments for every position in rugby are in a completely different league from anything in american football.
Some of the football linemen can squat 600lbs+, but they have double the NORMAL (i.e. average Joe) resting pulse.
Dhani said this, Dan Lyle (former div I & pro rugby player) said this, Colin Scotts & Richard Tardits (former jnr rugby internationals who played in the NFL) said this, and they should know.....
100 people on a team? Are you talking about a football team? Because there are only 11 on the field at any point in time and the 5 linemen and centers NEVER get subbed in or out without injury along with the quarterback which are in for 99% of offensive plays.
Go out there find me a 325lb rugby player who can MOVE and and play for 75%+ of a game.'
The reason there are substitutions in Am football has NOTHING to do with endurance, the coach always wants the best chance to win.
Would you take a guy out who looks like he's getting tired and replace him with someone fresh as hell? Of course you would because it makes sense. If they needed to they could shrink offensive and defensive lines and have the team play ALL day but see there is far more to american football, and the different offensive and defensive packages also require different personnel.
Rugby may take toughness and great endurance, but it's simple as ho-hum it is no way nearly as complex as Am. Football
LOL...each Padball team has a full set of Offensive players (plus reserves), a full Defensive team (plus reserves) and 'special teams' on top of that. That's a total of FORTY THREE players in one team!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
The 325lb Padball player is only actively involved in the game for an average of 8 minutes and has an average of 30 seconds to rest between plays, then leaves the field as a WHOLE OTHER TEAM takes his place for half the game!
@SD78 Who have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You just want to spew your dislike for am football all over youtube. Get a fucking life you damn loser. Instead of being a disrespectful ignorant cunt, how about you learn about the sport first before you try to descride it as if you know all about it. I bet anything you have never even played it.
@SD78 Gay stalker? Wow good one! No one is following you dude so dont flatter yourself. See the thing is im a football fan, which clearly you are not but yet you seem to be trolling all these videos of football, seemingly just to trash the sport. I myself being a fan ive watched high school, college, nfl videos, but you seem to have something against it. Weather what you say is factual or not is not the point. Point is that you look pathetic.
@SD78 How could I possibly know what videos you are going to watch? I said Ive watched many football videos, and some happen to lead me to certain videos about american football outside the u.s. Which Im new to so I watch them. I happen to notice you in many of them trashing the sport. Did a football player steal you girlfriend or something? Or maybe you happen to be a hater with a pretty sad life.
A few people have gone between both sports at the top level.
Dan Lyle was a leading div. I LB and peripheral NFL player who turned into a quality no.8 in english pro-club rugby, and going the other way Richard Tardits and Colin Scotts were junior rugby internationals who became NFL LBs. Richard Tardits also held his college season sack record until 2004, I think.
Manfred Moore also made 7 cameo appearances in Australian Rugby League after winning the '77 superbowl with the Raiders...
Partially back to the other answer i gave. Certain positions in rugby/football translate very well and endurance wouldn't be as much of an issue.
However, where endurance might be a issue in Rugby, the learning curve for positions skills would likely be a greater hurdle in football. This is why I think it's probably harder to learn football than rugby.
Agreed. There is no way a rugby player, unless very young mid teens who was prospected could play Am. Football.
Am. Football as a game is 100x more complicated in just about every aspect. From learning zone, to coverage options, to different blitz packages and formations, the easier side of the field to play defense would probably be overwhelming.
.. forget Penn and the Irish... It's all about... F-L-O-R-I-D-A.. S-T-A-T-E.. Florida State Florida State..woooo.. Go Florida State Seminoles baby... And Dhani Jones.. I don't even know the guy and I follow NFL as much as I do with college.
two great sports (from someone who has actually played both). From a collision standpoint, the hits in American football are a bit more traumatic because they come from greater distance and higher speeds, but the rugby collisions were more constant. Id have more bumps/scrapes after rugby than football. My football injuries were more serious: concussions, broken hands, cracked sternum. Also, please enough with calling footballer fat. That is only one position. The rest are world class athlete
rutgersmike 1 month ago
LOL you euros let Dhani Jones smack you around in your own sport? He's not even an all pro player
lilze96 5 months ago
@lilze96 Neither are they you dick. This is a semi pro team.....
2011hwalker 1 month ago
O the classic American Football and Rugby argument. Get the hell over it and just enjoy two great games.
Vonnegut43 7 months ago 2
HOOK"EM HORNS
zakakay 2 years ago
What a disappointing ending to this segment.
A550RGY 2 years ago
thinks dahini u got me started on hurling man i luv it after 4 days i wacted da hurling one luvin hurling
porchey100 2 years ago
Dhani is probably one of the oldest on the field, and he is probably the most athletic. Just doesn't know the game well enough to really excel.
buttersbrian 2 years ago
Sure, but this is about 5 levels below the top. The top is international, but he'd never get on an international rugby pitch - far too serious.
gert83 2 years ago
No doubt this isn't top level. Athletically, and defensively speaking, he could probably compete at the top level given some training. Not sure how well he'd fair at 30+ and not already knowing the game intuitively.
Dhani is a solid, but older Linebacker. Just pointing out that NFL players could easily compete on a rugby pitch given training.
The games aren't terribly far apart.
I would argue it's easier to go from Am. Football to Rugby than the other way around.
buttersbrian 2 years ago
He's an athlete, so no doubt he could, but the aerobic/ anaerobic demands of each sport are totally different. Someone like Shawn Merriman is totally stacked, but would he still be that shape if he trained for the elite endurance a rugby player requires?
More and more elite rugby players can bench and squat NFL weights, specially Polynesians, but they often have to be told to tone it down 'cos they sacrifice endurance.
gert83 2 years ago
There are certain positions that translate well both ways. LB(Dhani Jones) RB, WR, TE, DE, Safety, CB, FB. Most of what we call the 'skill' positions in the football.
While rugby requires endurance, most of the positions which would translate to rugby aren't terrible 'stacked' or large. I don't think the endurance would be something they couldn't overcome.
And the reason I say it would be easier to go from Am. Football to rugby is because their is less technical aspects to learn in Rugby.
buttersbrian 2 years ago
I think it would be very difficult for most players to go between sports at elite level. You're coming up against guys who are basically international class athletes and they have played their respective sports all their lives. Rugby also has skill positions - e.g. an NFL safety or CB can tackle and cover, but can he punt and pass like a rugby back 3 player, and can he choose each option at the right time? It takes years of practice. LB or TEs could probably change, but apart from that......
gert83 2 years ago
i agree it would be very hard to transition.
What I am saying, is there there are more skill positions in football which require very unique skill sets.
I think the punting would be harder than the passing to be honest. In rugby everyone makes passes. Decision making and punting is more important in that situation.
I guess I am saying there is a wider variety of skill positions in football.
Both are tough, brutal sports. Neither is soft or easy to play.
buttersbrian 2 years ago
The one thing which binds both sports together is the physical bravery required to play at the top level. These guys are hardass and they have their bodies broken. Aside from that the two sports are very different. If Dhani had played the entire 80, even at that level, he would have been completely wasted. Now take Dhani aged 7 and train him for rugby, and you'd have a future rugby star on your hands, no doubt..... but aged 32..or even 25?!?!
gert83 2 years ago
Am. Football players have INCREDIBLE endurance though. Teams pick players based on athleticism first, and then skill later, a team will take the far more athletic, faster, player with more endurance long before they will take a skilled, slow guy.
To be in the NFL you have to in the top 5% of athletes in the world in every regard if you're playing a skill position. I've even been beat sprinting against an offensive lineman, I was surprised.
sh1yne 2 years ago
The aerobic endurance of top rugby players is elite - guys who weigh 250lbs+, can bench and squat over 400lbs and they can run 2 x miles in less than 12 minutes. It's a completely different athetic emphasis, Am. Football is all about speed, in rugby speed v. endurance are of equal importance.
gert83 2 years ago
Endurance is a huge part of Am. Football too.
There's a reason the NFL hires the best trainers in the world to train their athletes. There is no different athletic emphasis, in Am. Football you train until you drop, in every single aspect of training you are trained. There is no, we'll work on sprints, and lift weights. There's so much damn cardio and everything else thrown in the mix.
This is why you even see some NFL players fighting professionally.
sh1yne 2 years ago
The endurance requirments for every position in rugby are in a completely different league from anything in american football.
Some of the football linemen can squat 600lbs+, but they have double the NORMAL (i.e. average Joe) resting pulse.
Dhani said this, Dan Lyle (former div I & pro rugby player) said this, Colin Scotts & Richard Tardits (former jnr rugby internationals who played in the NFL) said this, and they should know.....
gert83 2 years ago
It's true there definately is a different endurance requirement. But you're trained on this in football too, to push it until you have none left.
I'm not denying you must have much more endurance to be a rucker. That's a no brainer!
sh1yne 2 years ago
Thats why there are 100 people on a team and people get a break every 5mins...such endurance.
Half of them dont move more than five meters and the other guy can sprint, cause he spends all day in the gym.
Rugby players have jobs and stay on full time.
Spuddfluff 2 years ago
100 people on a team? Are you talking about a football team? Because there are only 11 on the field at any point in time and the 5 linemen and centers NEVER get subbed in or out without injury along with the quarterback which are in for 99% of offensive plays.
Go out there find me a 325lb rugby player who can MOVE and and play for 75%+ of a game.'
The reason there are substitutions in Am football has NOTHING to do with endurance, the coach always wants the best chance to win.
sh1yne 2 years ago
Would you take a guy out who looks like he's getting tired and replace him with someone fresh as hell? Of course you would because it makes sense. If they needed to they could shrink offensive and defensive lines and have the team play ALL day but see there is far more to american football, and the different offensive and defensive packages also require different personnel.
Rugby may take toughness and great endurance, but it's simple as ho-hum it is no way nearly as complex as Am. Football
sh1yne 2 years ago
@sh1yne
LOL...each Padball team has a full set of Offensive players (plus reserves), a full Defensive team (plus reserves) and 'special teams' on top of that. That's a total of FORTY THREE players in one team!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
The 325lb Padball player is only actively involved in the game for an average of 8 minutes and has an average of 30 seconds to rest between plays, then leaves the field as a WHOLE OTHER TEAM takes his place for half the game!
SD78 1 year ago
@SD78 fuck up cunt your an idiot
mitchmcc123 9 months ago
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@mitchmcc123
Look at how upset you are.
LOL!
SD78 9 months ago
@SD78 try wrestling a bull for 8 minutes and see how you feel after.
TurboSpringer 9 months ago
@SD78 Who have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You just want to spew your dislike for am football all over youtube. Get a fucking life you damn loser. Instead of being a disrespectful ignorant cunt, how about you learn about the sport first before you try to descride it as if you know all about it. I bet anything you have never even played it.
91gt306 3 months ago
@91gt306
Look at you following me around like a gay stalker.
Everything I have said is completely factual. Deal with it.
SD78 3 months ago
@SD78 Gay stalker? Wow good one! No one is following you dude so dont flatter yourself. See the thing is im a football fan, which clearly you are not but yet you seem to be trolling all these videos of football, seemingly just to trash the sport. I myself being a fan ive watched high school, college, nfl videos, but you seem to have something against it. Weather what you say is factual or not is not the point. Point is that you look pathetic.
91gt306 2 months ago
@91gt306
So no-one is following me, but you admit you ARE following me from thread to thread?
Like a gay stalker.
SD78 2 months ago
@SD78 How could I possibly know what videos you are going to watch? I said Ive watched many football videos, and some happen to lead me to certain videos about american football outside the u.s. Which Im new to so I watch them. I happen to notice you in many of them trashing the sport. Did a football player steal you girlfriend or something? Or maybe you happen to be a hater with a pretty sad life.
91gt306 2 months ago
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@Spuddfluff fuck up you stupid cunt
mitchmcc123 9 months ago
A few people have gone between both sports at the top level.
Dan Lyle was a leading div. I LB and peripheral NFL player who turned into a quality no.8 in english pro-club rugby, and going the other way Richard Tardits and Colin Scotts were junior rugby internationals who became NFL LBs. Richard Tardits also held his college season sack record until 2004, I think.
Manfred Moore also made 7 cameo appearances in Australian Rugby League after winning the '77 superbowl with the Raiders...
gert83 2 years ago
Partially back to the other answer i gave. Certain positions in rugby/football translate very well and endurance wouldn't be as much of an issue.
However, where endurance might be a issue in Rugby, the learning curve for positions skills would likely be a greater hurdle in football. This is why I think it's probably harder to learn football than rugby.
buttersbrian 2 years ago
Agreed. There is no way a rugby player, unless very young mid teens who was prospected could play Am. Football.
Am. Football as a game is 100x more complicated in just about every aspect. From learning zone, to coverage options, to different blitz packages and formations, the easier side of the field to play defense would probably be overwhelming.
sh1yne 2 years ago
lol i love how the british guy says "protective armor."
Rams4life94 2 years ago
I love Dhani...as a Cincinnatian, I'm proud to have him on my Bengals. He's a great role model.
danechick03 2 years ago
I like how he felt the need to explain to a British reporter how the Welsh 'love Rugby.'
mongobobo 2 years ago
he is explaining it to tv audiences not the reporter alone moron
monsterdoood 2 years ago
So I guess you think that British tv audiences don't know much about Britain, right?
mongobobo 2 years ago
who says its for british audiences only???
monsterdoood 2 years ago
FSU all the by baby lets go chris ponder
blackboom1 2 years ago
fsu blows! GO georgia tech
GAboy21589 2 years ago
lets go florida bcs baby what now
kgxbloodshot06 2 years ago
.. forget Penn and the Irish... It's all about... F-L-O-R-I-D-A.. S-T-A-T-E.. Florida State Florida State..woooo.. Go Florida State Seminoles baby... And Dhani Jones.. I don't even know the guy and I follow NFL as much as I do with college.
saucyisawesome 2 years ago
FSU for the win all day babe Yeah National champs 09 boo
blackboom1 2 years ago
not notre dame retard.. its penn state
shwann125 2 years ago
FUCK THE BLUE!!! ND ALL THE WAY !!!
crzyirishkid93 2 years ago
Go Blue!!!
tkde1 3 years ago