When the angel said, "Mary, god gives you a good tidings of a WORD from Him whose name is messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, -high honoured shall he be in this world and the next, near stationed to God. He shall speak to men in the cradle, and of age, and righteous he shall be, "lord" said Mary "How shall I have a son, seeing no mortal has touched me? "Even so, he said "God creates what He will..
I love Jesus peace be upon him and I love Muhammad peace be upon him and I love God and all of his messengers and prophets. peace be upon them. But there is nothing that can be compared to God. God created me, I am his slave and I try to abide as much as I can by his rules. And I love to pray at least 5 times a day because it reminds me of why Allah created me in the first place.
@Mohamedingermany Humans can not be compared to God. God can become a Human. Jesus is NOT just human. God became human. Only the Almighty God can do this. Son of God became a human to be punished for human's sins and save humans from hell punishment as prophesied in the Jewish Scripture.
@truetruthusa Why should God become Jesus. If he died for your sins that means that you can do whatever bad stuff you want as long as you believe that jesus was God and you would still go to heaven. You are making it too easy. I rarely see any christians that pray. muslims pray at least 5 times a day and have to do much more stuff. But we love to do it. You think that by these little things you do you are going to heaven. Just saying I love Jesus and believing that he is God is not enough at all
@Mohamedingermany Friend, if you believe Jesus died for your sins, then you have to follow the holy life of Jesus. The commandment is "Be holy as I am holy"
One who believes in Jesus should follow His teaching.
We do not make a show of our prayer. Christians are commanded to pray always, not 5 times!
God became a human to save humans from hell. There is no other way.
@truetruthusa You didn't read what I wrote. I said at least 5 times. This is the minimum. There is fasting, the is giving money to the poor and much more. God saves only the humans that he wants to be saved. not the hole human kind. I have the feeling christians don't fear God as much as they should fear him. People say christianity is closest to islam but I think there is a huge gap between us. Thank you
@truetruthusa nono, you have not read the quran which means you are not in a position to argue with me about Islam. If you want to know, the Quran says neither 5 nor 3. Quran says I have only created mankind a jinkind to worship me. In many other parts the quran says, the winners are the ones who believe in God, pray and give money to the poor. Please don't just throw any information you heard somewhere. No knowledge is bad, but little knowledge is dangerous.
@truetruthusa You said that the quran says 3 times so I don't agree with you but I agree with the fact that Quran doesn't mention the number of times. Mohamed peace be upon him tought us how to pray. Why did God teach Mohamed the quran? So that he will help us understand Islam. There is no way we could have learned this by ourselves. Just like God gave Jesus the book so that he will teach you how to submit to God. Unfortunately, the original doesn't exist.
@truetruthusa First of all, I believe in your book and I believe in your prophets which are also mentioned in the quran. Mohamamd was inspired by God just like he was Inspired by Noah and Ismael and Isaac and Jacob and Abraham and Salomon and Jesus and all the other prophets peace be upon them. The second, the third and the fourth point you made are statements, not questions so the only way to argue is to prove wether they are right or wrong. I am not a scholar, I believe in what I believe.
be holy as i am holy.. eat not the swine as i dont eat swine, be circumsize as i am circumsize, drink no wine as i dont drink wine.. pray as i pray..
hmmm.... seem that.. you only say.. but you dont follow it.. well, we have muslim like that also.. like me.. but im trying to get rid of that slowly, InsyaALLAH..
@kiLuL76 I DO NOT eat SWINE-VINE. This is not what make me to be holy, but the Blood of Jesus that washes my sins away!
So Jesus, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated?
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man..Matt15:16-20
@truetruthusa, im tired.. i think i need to rest for a while.. im sorry for whatever things i said that might offend you.. but if it is the Truth.. i cant help it..
and.. i dont really want to change your beliefs.. tried that.. but God showed me, that i can never put my will on to someone else.. cause God has made each human will be responsible of their own choices. Alhamdulillah.. All praise is to ALLAH.. the Most Gracious, Most Merciful..
@kiLuL76 Friend, I understand your frustrations to defend your religion. You are not offending me. Today also I rembered you in my prayer. I just want you to come to the KINGDOM OF GOD (heaven). I want you to escape your sins. I want you to be holy in Jesus. I want you to be in JOY and PEACE from God. I want you to know that Jesus is the ONLY WAY to heaven. I do not stand for a religion or any organisation. I stand for the Kingdom of God. With Love...Your friend for your Salvation.
@truetruthusa im not frustrated defending my religion.. im frustrated because of you my friend are his creation but you worship others.. thats is my frustration... anyway.. i could not do anything except try to explain to you..
@kiLuL76 Jesus is God whether He came in the form of a Human or in invisible form. Jesus accepted worshipped because He is God. Appostles worshipped Him. Angels were asked to worship Him.
Tell me what is God's love if the below reference is not?
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Allah has given you NOTHING. What you have is from the God of the Bible.
@truetruthusa, seed of a woman? will crush satan head? u see that is equivalent to Jesus is God and Jesus will die for Adams sin???
Abrahams sin?? Noah sin??
Have u tot about people before jesus, who died without knowing and believe that jesus died for their sin?? people who live n died in the jungle.. in the dessert, in the mountains.. Will they all go to HELL??
@kiLuL76 Jesus died for all human before and after Jesus. It was the faith that saved people always. OT people expected Messiah's coming and they had faith in the coming of the Messiah. NT people also have to have same faith in Messiah. In NT Messiah died for our sins. Believe this, your sins will be washed away. If you don't you will have to bear your sins and be punished in hell forever!!
People die in sin will go to hell no matter when they lived or whether they heard about Jesus.
@kiLuL76 Yes my dear, Jesus is ALIVE. However, He DIED and is ALIVE forever!! He is coming back to those who believe that He died for them and follow Him as the Lord and Savior.
Believing in Jesus means: Believing in what He DID to save you from hell.
@kiLuL76 The God I know came in a human body to save me from hell. I know this God. This God is the God who created everything and the same God revealed in OT and NT.
Tell me, who is your God? Please do not borrow from the Bible. Tell me, who is Allah?
Friend, Allah does not exist. Allah was the Quraish tribe's main Idol worshipped at the time of Muhamad. Mohamad made Allah as the Only god in Kaaba.
I have written a lot, it is time for you to believe the message of the Christ.
@truetruthusa The god you know, DID not came in human body.. you believed he came in a human body.. The Farther. is THE GOD
Why should i not borrow your bible if it is TRUE from jesus.. we love jesus.. some story in the bible, i think are true, like the parables jesus gave talking about the owner of a Vineyard and the farmers..
Allah exist, and you are His creation..
Thanks for writing to believe the message of the Christ.. I do believe the Christ.. but not PAUL..
@kiLuL76 Friend, a FAKE dollar will copy most of the things from the TRUE dollar bill. This is what Quran did. It copied most of the things from the Word of God (Holy Bible) to make it look like God's Word. Careful examination proves that Quran is NOT from God.
If you believe the message of Jesus, Did you repent of your sins and get BABPTIZED as Jesus commanded?
God used Paul to preach the Gospel of Jesus and write many of the NT which is the message of Jesus.
@truetruthusa You want to know who ALLAH is?? read the Quran, it tells about Him.
The One who created Heavens and Earth, The One who created Day for us to work and Night to rest. The One who created you in your mothers womb. The One who created me, The One who created satan and angels, The One who is The Almighty, The Most Beneficient, Most Merciful.
The One which ALL THINGS return to, even jesus himself..
@kiLuL76 You are being deceived by Allah by NOT accepting the DEATH of Jesus on the cross for your sins. This way Allah deceives you to go to hell punishment for your sins.
OT prophets said the Messiah is IMMANUEL and the Mighty God (Isaiah 7:14, 9:6)
Jesus said He is the Father in the Flesh (John 14:7).
Allah was the main idol god of Quiraish tribe where Muhammad and Kadijah are from. It was the most powerful moon god. Tell me, who is Al-Manat?
@truetruthusa John 14:7, I looked it up.. dont LIE.. dont change the meaning.. just to win the argument.. ok for your sake.. i let you win.. so you dont have to lie..
Al manats is the IDOLS the quraish was worshipping.. whats the big deal? ahahahahah.. POWERFUL MOON GOD??? you believe that friend?
i dont mean to be rude.. how can you say it was the most powerful moon god? theres no moon god.. it was the beliefs of the quraish tribe..
@kiLuL76 Freind, tell me where I lied to you. I am not allowed to lie. It is not about I winning the argument. I am just presenting the truth with love and patience. It is up to you to listen.
Why did Muhammad bowed to the idols including manat?
Yes, Allah, the moon god was the main idol of Quraish tribe. It was known as Al LAH means the god. Muhammad distroyed all the 360 idols at Kaaba except the Al-Lah. This became the ONE god Allah and Muhammad became Allah's prophet.
@truetruthusa you read the quraish history.. and.. then.. you PICK IT UP as what ISLAM TEACHES.. how UNFAIR of you.. INEQUITY.. you dont think for a second.. that the Idol worshipper was there before Muhammad were even 40. Before he was given the revelation..
The Quran was sent down when Muhammad pbuh was at the age of 40. One of the GOALs is to eliminate the worship of IDOLS.. the KAABAH, is the FIRST HOUSE of WORSHIP built by ABRAHAM.. before moses.. jesus.. and Muhammad pbuta
@kiLuL76 Friend, yes - Muhammad distroyed all idols but kept the main idol and the worship of the Black stone, the pilgrimage, running around the Kaaba as pagans used to do.
This he kept this way to win favors from mecan idol worshippers. He included stories from Jews and Christians and proclaimed ONE god to get favor and followers from Christians and Jews. Kadijah and Waraq were some form of Christians.
@kiLuL76 Religious formalities (hijab etc) are deceit from Allah. Allah make people think that they follow God and have some satisfaction. But they are one the way to hell since they REJECT the Salvation came from God thru the Sacrifice of Jesus.
Friend, Jesus appered to Paul who was a persecutor of Christians and chose him as a witness for Him.
If PAUL is a stumbling block for you to come to JESUS for salvation, just read the Gospels and the NT books came not thru Paul.
@truetruthusa okay.. im actually not against him.. may be i judge paul to early.. i dont know paul.. so i better be quite..
But if paul says.. jesus fullfill the law and you dont have to, he is teaching against what jesus has taught..
a child of GOD?? may be jesus.. but not me.. Im just His slave.. Jesus or Isa pbuh.. may have the right to be called as son of God, not because he was begotten, but because he was so strict in following orders of GOD.
@kiLuL76 Take the same approach from now on. If u do not know, do not write it.
As Paul says Jesus said He came to fulfill the LAW.
Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
No disagreement!
Either, you are a child of God or child of Devil.
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, ..for he is a liar and the father of it.
@truetruthusa How can i accept his death.. Allah will not let His prophet (more over THE CHRIST, which He has ANNOINTS).. to be stoned and crucified and mocked and spat on.. thats ABSURD.. its like saying.. the Al-Mighty is POWERLESS..
so, i could not accept that.. He rotates the EARTHS everyday.. Makes the SUN rises on the EAST and SETS on the WEST.. He has created the UNIVERSE.. suddenly, He cant save the CHRIST?
theres no proof in the teaching of Jesus, he'll die for our sin
@kiLuL76 Friend, YOU and I are powerless. Jesus became like powerless human to be a substitute for YOU and ME.
At the Garden of Gethsemane, when Jesus used the sacred Name I AM they people who came to arrest Him fell back.
God allowed Jesus to be powerless to SAVE powerless humans.
Jesus CAME to DIE to SAVE you!! Jesus did not come just to teach. He could have chosen a human as a teacher or a prophet. But Son od God came to bear your sins on the cross so that you can escape hell.
Php 2:5-8 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Why this clip keep repeating the Jews, The Jews........ The romans was 1st to kill YASHUA,, do you remember when many had been killed? and by whom's order it was???? Not Jews for sure, and when you are saying the word Jews you are meaning Yashua's family too
this is soooo wrong... you put up scriptures that said yeshua said God is his father ... and scriptures that say you should honor your son as you do your father?? that crystal clear to me that yeshua is not God just granted his power for his obediance to God..
@truetruthusa, O Disbelievers!, I worship not that ye worship, Nor worship ye that which i worship, and I shall not worship that which ye worship, nor will ye worship that which I worship, unto you YOUR RELIGION, and unto me MY RELIGION.
May Allah Guides me, and May Allah have mercy on your soul. SubhanAllah, BLESSED IS HE, THE MOST GRACIOUS and MOST MERCIFUL..
Gabriel told Mary that Jesus would be called the Son of God (Luk 1:35)
Gabriel told the prophet Daniel that Massiah would DIE for others (Dan 9:26)
Muhammad received a revelation that is contrary to what the angel Gabriel told Mary and Daniel. That means it was not Gabriel who appeared to Muhammad but an angel of light (satan) (2Cor 11:14).
Muhammad was terrified and did not know who appeared to him! This was because the angel was not from God.
@truetruthusa massiah would die for others, not that gabriel say the massiah will die for salvation.. your CONCEPT of "GOD" is that your so called GOD will be of SERVICE to you.. for US MUSLIM, wallahualam, WE are of SERVICE TO HIM.. we muslim are HIS SLAVES.. Satans are HIS SLAVES, you are HIS SLAVES, angles are HIS SLAVES, EVERYTHING is HIS SLAVES.. HIS CREATION..
whether you like it or not.. SOON you will know.. IN TRUTH.. you will know.. ALL are HIS SLAVES.. and HE (ALLAH) IS MY GOD..
1) The angel of God told Joseph: And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will SAVE His people from their SINS."(Mat 1:21).
2) Messiah is saving people from sins through His death as prophesied by Isaiah, the prophet of God.
Isa 53:8 For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people ..
Isa 53:5-6 But He was wounded for our transgressions, And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
"are you saying your brains dont have to be use to find the ways?" < I regret that.. forgive me friend.. my intention was not to imply anything negative, but i see this as something negative.. its from myself NOT ALLAH.. so please forgive me.. cause ALLAH will NOT forgive me if you dont.. Please friend.. im sorry..
When the sons of isacc and ishmael Shake hands and realise they are B R O T H E R S or cousins at the very least . Even these two made emends when one want to kill the other REMEMBER OUR. NEIGHBOUR. wIll allways be our brothers
@cathlicboy Yes, Isaac and Ishmael are brothers and both worhipped the God of Abraham who was called JEHOVAH (and EL for God. IshmaEL). They did not worship Allah, the meccan god. Muslims are worshipping the Al-LAH (the god) that was worshipped as the moon god in mecca. This Allah is the unknown god NEVER known by Abraham.
@truetruthusa, i asked u a question about satan, u refuse to answer.. then u expect me to ask u again.. honestly.. buy u judge my question as not important..
@truetruthusa hehehe.. now, since you have already say that.. ok, ill answer your question first.
First - Why do we sacrifice at Mecca?? we make sacrifices of animal during the HAJJ, and its NOT COMPULSARY if you dont have the means.. you can make sacrifies at your HOME during the HAJJ..
as for WHY we do it in Mecca? its the instruction by our GOD.
Personally, it only symbolize the sacrifices we make everyday.. for ALLAH..
@kiLuL76 So, Why Allah instruct you to sacrice an animal?
In the Bible animal sacrifice was instituted so that people can approach God. A sinner CANNOT approach God without a blood sacrifice.
God covered the nakedness of Adam (caused by sin) by an animal skin in the garden of Eden. Animal was sacrificed to get the animal skin to cover the consequence of sin. This was the picture of how sins should be dealt with since SIN is a serious issue.
@truetruthusa and in addtion, SACRIFICE is to let go, or to give something away thay YOU LOVE SO MUCH in your possession, and it benefit others. we dont call it sacrifice if you give your torn down shoes to some shelters.. the slaughtering of animals is just a symbol in every year.. that WE muslims must make sacrifices for HIM..buf ofcourse we have to READ FIRST! his Words first so that he can make us understand.. it is not just like "go and kill yourself" for Allah..
@truetruthusa the first verse that were sent down from Allah to his Mesengger (Muhammad pbuh) by the Angel Gabriel was the instruction to "READ!" or "PROCLAIM!".. meaning to say.. you read the Quran first! and ask for His Mercy so that you can understand.. and be patient.. so all the prayers, alms giving, sacrifices, what ever good deeds that you want to do, it comes later.. because first.. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.. what He is TELLING US.. by HIS WORDS.. in the QURAN.
@kiLuL76 Friend, there was NOTHING to read when "angel" told Mohamad to read. Mohamad did not know how to read ("angel" should have known this before!). Then angel said 'Recite'!!
You DO NOT have to read Quran in order to do good. Most people who are doing good works are the people who do not read Quran.
Isa 64:6 ..And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags..
Rom 3:12 ..THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, NO, NOT ONE."
@truetruthusa Why did Moses, Aaron, David etc sacrificed animals? ok, personally, i understand that ISHMAEL was the first GREAT SACRIFICE of HUMANS that GOD told Abraham to slaughter, ABRAHAM OWN SON.. but at the moment Abraham was about to slaughter Ishmael, GOD had change it to animals, it is only a TEST.. not that ALLAH wants to KNOW, HE ALREADY KNOW.. its HIS MERCY.. to show US, that he ABRAHAM is THE GREAT PROPHET.. willing to kill his OWN SON for ALLAH!!
@kiLuL76 Let me correct you first. It was the ISAAC, the promised son from the WIFE of ABRAHAM was the one GOD specifically asked Abraham to sacrifice (Gen 22:2-9). The servent woman Hagar and her son Ishmael was cast out from the house before this incident (Gen 21:12).
Why did God allowed an innocent ram to be slaughtered for a burnt offering instead of his son if it was just a test?
Why Isaac was substituted with a ram here?
This was pointing to "The Lamb of God" who would become a substitute.
@truetruthusa so, what Moses, Aaron and David did was only to symbolize the EVENT and to remind us, that Abraham was a TRUE PROPHET OF GOD, and was very OBEDIENT, and also to remind us to make sacrifices along the way, however small it is..
Personally, GOD does not WANT the BLOOD of ISHMAEL, he can create a million Ishmael if He is WILLING.. He WANTED to SHOW.. a SAMPLE of a VERY OBIDIENT SLAVE of HIS..
Our GOD, DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING FROM US, not our sacrifice, nor our obidience. we need Him.
@kiLuL76 If Aaron and David were trying to prove that Abraham was true prophet it would have been a kind of human worship. They were sacrificing because it was the command of God. They were not suppose to follow any human. Aaron, Moses or David did not tell people to follow them but since they were TRUE Prophets they told people to follow God's Law.
Yes, God did not want the blood of Isaac or an animal. This sacrifice was pointing to the Sacrifice God would make to save the people from their sin
@truetruthusa so, why did GOD pleased with able an not cains? God showing only thru sacrifies one can approach GOD? im sorry my friend, In ISLAM.. i dont believe i entitled to approach Him.. i dont believe ALL my GOOD deeds are comparable of His BOUNTY.. let me tell you something which I believe..
Only THRU HIS MERCY, you can approach Him, only thru HIS MERCY you can enter paradise, Only thru HIS MERCY you can do this and that.. a former christian told me, and I BELIEVE him. he is Yusha Evans.
@kiLuL76 You are correct, ONLY thru God's MERCY anyone can enter paradise. God's mercy revealed in the SACRIFICE of Jesus.
Eph 2:4-8 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, .. made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
@truetruthusa let me tell you also, that I WAS A MUSLIM since i was BORN, but never did i understand His MERCY, look at YUSHA EVANS, he just converted to ISLAM maybe 10 years ago.. but HE GAVE the KNOWLEDGE to YUSHA.. not ME.. WHY??? cause of HIS MERCY to YUSHA.. ALLAH is JUST.. you work, HE PAYS YOU AS HE LIKE!..
i dont read the quran.. so i dont understand at first.. but when yusha tells me that i cant enter jannah with my good deeds, than i start to realize, He is subtituting me, Nauzubillah
@truetruthusa He is subtituting me with Yusha EVANS who is a BETTER MUSLIM than myself.. SubhanALLAH.. i dont want be subtituted with other people.. ya ALLAH.. i dont want.
im sorry cause, im a bit emotional.. I love my GOD very much.. i dont want Him to subtitute me with other guy, cause i didn't do what He tells me or do His WILL.. so my friend.. sacrifice is just a small thing to Allah.. His MERCY is GREAT.. so its not that important to Him if i sacrifice or not.. okay..
@kiLuL76 Friend, God is JUST. A Just God has to deal with sin. He has to punish sin, otherwise God is not a Righteous Judge. Same time God is LOVE. Love of God want to save humans from punishment.
The Son of God was ready to absorb the wrath of God (becuse of our sin) so that we can escape the punishment. Jesus became a SINLESS human to be a substitute for punishment. Yusah Evan cannot be a substitute because he is a sinner and need to be punished for his sins.
Jesus cast out satan. Mohamad could not do this. Jesus did not come on earth to be called "LORD" by satan. However, Jesus is called LORD in the NT and Allah is called LORD in Quran.
Satan is calling Jesus "the Holy One of God!" (Mar 1:24). Has satan call any human with this title?
@truetruthusa, thats is your major problem of God, to you he is like human.. you expect him to sacrifice his own son because he expect us to sacrifice.. What is actually have u sacrifice for God? nothing.. u expect God sacrifice himself for your own benefit.. just attain faith and work not good deeds..
@kiLuL76 Yes, My God is the LOVING GOD. That is why He send His Son to absorb my punishment as a substitute. Your god left everything to you to attain salvation because he do not have a way of salvation.
You are are just hoping that Allah will forgive you at the last day.
How do you know you will be forgiven? Adam was not forgiven by Allah. Do you think you have a better chance?
Friend, Bible teaches that you have to be holy and God is holy. Means-you should be like Jesus. Is it not good deeds?
Quote "How do you know you will be forgiven? Adam was not forgiven by Allah. Do you think you have a better chance?"
How then you know Adam was not forgiven by ALLAH? where you get this? from your bible? which bible? the one that teaches story about INCESTS?? did you read through you bible? did you? havent you read that? INCEST in details? what do your bible really teaches? a believer can drink poison?... tell me then. tell me.. friend..
Quote "You are are just hoping that Allah will forgive you at the last day?"
How can you know if you believe Jesus, then you'll be forgiven thru his sacrifice.. because it is said in the bible right? well my GOD promise me in the Quran that He Will forgive me if I stay on the right path, and He'll be my guardian..
what difference that it makes, both from the scripture.. Unless, if i believe in Jesus, some sort of paper in writing falls from the sky telling me YOUR FORGIVEN!
Quote "My God is the LOVING GOD. That is why He send His Son to absorb my punishment as a substitute"
If, and every strong IF, if God has a son, and sacrifice his sons for others, i wouldnt dare to place my hope on him.. HE KILLED his OWN SON, what EVEN ME!.. He doesnt love his own son, so what chance do I have, jesus dont eat swine, and dont drink wine.. HE GOT SACRIFICED.. you.. eat swine and drink wine.. will be punished..
@truetruthusa "Your god left everything to you to attain salvation because he do not have a way of salvation"
God gave me brain to think, god gave me eyes to see, mouth to speak, ears to listen, so that i can find my way to Him, ON HIS TERMS and ONLY BY HIS MERCY.. so, ofcourse he left something for me to do with my brains, my eyes, my ears.. and HE GAVE ME HEART.. to feel.. so that i can USE THEM to find the WAY.. by HIS MERCY..
are you saying your brains dont have to be use to find the ways?
@kiLuL76 God gave me brain to think, god gave me eyes to see, mouth to speak, ears to listen, so that i can find my way to Him, ON HIS TERMS and ONLY BY HIS MERCY.. so, ofcourse he left something for me to do with my brains, my eyes, my ears.. and HE GAVE ME HEART.. to feel.. so that i can USE THEM to find the WAY.. by HIS MERCY.. Way to SALVATION, InsyaALLAH..
@truetruthusa He gave me sunlight, He gave me heart, He gave me vision, hearing, touch, sense, breathing, air, water, food, vitamins, oranges, apples, sun, moon, wisdom, intelligence, knowledge, creativity, curiousity, house, money, wealth, health..
What did Allah did for me? nothing, He dont do things, Hes GOD, He ONLY WILLS it.. and IT BE DONE.. SubhanAllah, the Almighty, Blessed is He (ALLAH) from what you ascribe Him with..
you are making me think, but i see yourself do not.. maybe im wrong
@kiLuL76 It is the God of the Bible who created everything is giving everything to everyone. Everyone including Athiests, Hindus, Budhists, Muslims, Jews and Christians benefits from God. This is the general concept of God.
However, God of the Bible is a personal God who revealed Himself to His creation both in OT and in NT. In NT, to SAVE us from hell punishment.
God DID something already for us so that we can escape hell punishment.
25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?” 26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”
@truetruthusa im not concern about satan, instead im concern about you.. thinking jesus is God, that is why i ask you.. if Jesus is God, he must be the God of Satan rite?
would he be punish for my sin in killing your parents? you like to see Jesus die if i kill your parents so that my sins are forgiven??
There is no justice in seeing what you call GOD, DIE for sins of human.. dont just believe.. think.. read.. and reason..
@kiLuL76 Friend, you should open yourself to the Word of God in order to understand this truth.
Atleast TWO Old Testament prophets revealed the Messiah DYING for the sins of others. This is the LOVE of God. This was the ONLY righteous way to save mankind from hell.
Mohamad and Allah could not take this Love of God and REJECTED it.
And Quran correctly says all Muslims will have to go to hell (they rejected God's plan).
@truetruthusa This was the only righteous way?? suddenly YOUR GOD CANT JUST FORGIVE, he must need sacrifice.. and you say HIS LOVING??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR MIND??
why say Mohammad and Allah, its Muhammad, I respect your belief and spell jesus as it is, secondly, Muhammad is JUST A MESSENGER, not GOD, he doesnt have any power on his own.. this is the disease of your mind, thinking Muhammad pbuh, as someone who has some share of power with GOD. HE DOES NOT HAVE..
so the JUDGE is a righteous judge when i kill your father and sacrifice you, so my sin would not be hid under the carpet. cause if i pay the price, its not sacrifice, it PUNISHMENT.. so, let me kill one of your brothers and you sacrifice.. to be jail for life for me.. THAT IS JUST TO YOU?? MY GOD.. what had happened to your mind?
Friend, i think i have to the best of my ability to explain and convey the message that, ALLAH is ONE.
@truetruthusa ya.. i got it thanks.. when a baby is born, they will definitely sin for crying.. a baby should be born not crying and immediately pray to his GOD in his first 10 minutes after the baby got out..
A baby who died during its infancy, is not forgiven, cause he dont believe in Jesus, so the baby will not be save.. or maybe the baby is not yet human?... am i getting it?
cause you say.. ALL HUMAN ARE SINNERS, so baby human? are they human?
@kiLuL76 Dear Friend, please do not try to understand what I di not write. I did not say baby who died in the infancy did not get forgiven. This baby did not willfully do any sins eventhough baby is a sinner. God will not punish for the sins they did not commit. When Jesus died for sins Jesus died for the sins of an infant too.
You need a Savior because your are still willfully REJECTING the Salvation came from God. Willfully accept that you are a sinner and you need to be saved from sin.
@truetruthusa sins of INFANT?? what? why sins did they do my friend.. what sins? they cried? and sin againt themselves?.. jesus died for the sins of an infant? thats its not logical.. so not logical.. i cant imagine where the sin came from when a baby cried when being born..
I am not rejecting salvation came from GOD, i am rejecting that GOD DIED for my salvation.. THAT IS ABSURD.. so ABSURD.. 100 millions times ABSURD.. UNTHINKABLE.. NONSENSE..
@kiLuL76 I did not say an infant sinned. You have sinned and you need to be saved from the punishment of the sins unless you accept the God's way of Salvation thru Jesus Christ.
An infant cannot sin eventhough the sin nature is there in an infant.
I know it is foolishness to you the God's way of Salvation. If it was man's way of salvation it would have been easy for you.
@truetruthusa sin nature is there in an infant? what does it mean? the infant is born with sin? i dont get it.. infant dont sin, but is born with sin.. whos sin was it? ADAM??
@kiLuL76 Child of a sinner is a sinner. This is why even if you do not teach a child to sin it does sin. Who taught them to lie when they get older? Please observe the behavior of a child as he/she grows up and tell me who taught them to commit sin?
Child of a tiger is a tiger, child of a pig is a pig, etc..
@truetruthusa hmm.. i was talking about an infant who died during his or her first year of living, not when he grows old, thats already human.. man.. dont run from the subject.. my question was IF AN INFANT WAS BORN, WHAT IS HIS SIN??? not that the farther of the child is sinner or not, YOU are CLAIMING, everybody born with SIN.. now WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THAT..
you tell yourself, how does an infant SIN, NOT when he GROWS OLDER.. but when he/she was born.. if u cant answer, just say so..
@truetruthusa Im not clear about the INHERITANCE of the SIN,
Im clear that you say infant didnt commit any sin, thank you.
now you are saying, we human inherit sin.. right? whos sin? whos nature to sin, human?
okay.. my problem is like this, let say a baby is born in a jungle, by jungle people who never heard of Jesus, Islam or any religion on earth, what happen when the die? do they inherit the sin? an if they die, and dont believe in Jesus cause they never heard of him, do they go to hell?
@kiLuL76 Sorry for the delay. My account was not working. Babies are not able to sin willfully. Say this baby comes to an age where he/she can sin. Then the willfull sin will be punished in hell. A righteous God has to punish sin. We know that all have sinned. For this reason God sent His Son to be punished in our place so we have an oppertunity to go to heaven.
@truetruthusa its okay friend.. thanks for the explanation.. :-)
To me, God are not subjected to Rightesousness or Wickedness.. it is HE who sets the limits, who is the source of ALL KNOWLEDGE, the good and bad of everything.
He explains Himself cause He is The Most Merciful..
So.. He doesnot need to send His Son, and He has No SON of His OWN.. HE creates.. He does not BEGET nor is He BEGOTTEN.
If We repent.. ask for His Mercy.. InysaAllah we will be forgiven..
@kiLuL76 Friend, Since GOD is Merciful He sent His Son to save us from hell. This is the LOVE of God. Jewish prophets Isaiah and Daniel fortold the suffering of Messiah for the sins. Jesus fulfilled this prophecy by dying for your and my sins. It is upto you to decide to accept the SALVATION God gave us thru His Son.
Jesus proved Himself who He is. He died and resurrected and proved Himself after His resurrection in different circumstances to those who follow Him.
@truetruthusa yes friend, i AGREE that HE is THE MOST MERCIFUL.. He did send His Messenger, but not His BEGOTTEN son.
Jesus did not DIED, he still lives. The JEWS dont believe he is the Messiah.. thats why the TRIED to kill him. You believe that he is the Messiah.. i believe it also. But u also say Jesus is also GOD.. what GOD needs to be ANNOINTED???
human can be annointed.. not GOD.
GOD ANNOINTS.. (pardon my english)
My SINS will be mine.. yours will be yours.. not JESUS!
@kiLuL76 We DO NOT need messengers. We need SAVIOR. This is why Son of God came- To save us from hell. Mohamad is not a messenger of God. What did Mohamad did for you?
Death of Jesus is a Historical fact and both OT and NT prophets agreed it. Only Mohamad denied it. NO one else!!
Yes, you sins is yours and you will be punished in hell eternally unless you believe that Jesus died for your sins.
@truetruthusa I dont believe Jesus died for my sins.. I dont believe he died. They did not killed him, nor did they crucify the CHRIST.. refer the LAW.. the CHRIST can never be crucified.. unless it is GODs will.
Im sorry, it is not only Muhammad that denies the DEATH of the Christ. THE CHRIST himself will deny that it was him on the cross..
God made it appears to them, that they killed the Christ.. but they did not.. And Allah will judge them.
@kiLuL76 If you don't believe Jesus died for your sins, you will go to hell to be punished for your sins FOREVER. There is no ESCAPE. You still have time to escape hell.
Who told you Jesus did not die?
Listen to Jesus:
Mar 9:31 For He taught His disciples and said to them, "The Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise the third day."
Allah s.w.t. has revealed to Muhammad pbuh, THEY DID NOT KILL HIM, NOR DID THEY CRUCIFY HIM.. (Jesus)..
The CHRIST cant be Crucified.. thats the LAW of GOD. The ANNOINTED.. Al Masih.. THE MESSIAH..
if the christ is crucified than the JEWS would be correct, Jesus was not the christ.. The Jews were not just trying to kill him.. but to disprove Jesus title as THE MESSIAH.. so they had to crucify Jesus pbuh..
@kiLuL76 God NEVER revealed to Mohamad anything as this 'spirit' was the one speaking (if it is true) to Mohamad. God will not give a contradictory message that He gave to OT prophets and what happend.
Read Isaiah chapter 53 to see the dying Messiah and Daniel Chapter 9.
Christ always lives because He was resurrected from dead on the 3rd day and is LIVING FOREVER.
@truetruthusa Muhammad did everything he was told.. to be the EXAMPLE of how to live on earth.. be good to others.. Muhammad has no power on his own.. he did not bring any miracles like the prophets before him but a MIRACLE of ALL MIRACLE.. the QURAN..
why no miracles like jesus? ask the JEWS, Jesus heals the blind, the lepers and give life to the dead.. BUT ThEY TRIED TO KILL HIM..
Thats the problem with your mind, you believe so much that Jesus DIED.. even if people tell you the truth.. you will say they lie, cause u believe.. but you dont think it through..
Marrying a 9yo girl, marrying daugther in law - adopted son.. these things are mentioned in the Quran, but you cherry pick them up, to suit your beliefs without reading throug the Quran..
This is what Jesus is saying about, Seeing they SEE NOT, Hearing they HEAR NOT.
I believe Jesus is also a good example for humankind.. i BELIEVE THAT.. cause Jesus is THE MESSIAH.. THE CHRIST..
I believe and follow.. but you.. you believe but you DONT FOLLOW
Jesus fast, you dont, Jesus were circumsized, Christians DONT, Jesus Prayed, Christ Dont pray.. they sing in CHURCH.. Jesus DONT EAT SWINE, you DO, JESUS DONT DRINK WINE, YOU DO..
So.. I not only believe but i follow Jesus as well.. cause its the same Message.
Miracles are for those who look with their eyes only.. THINKING that its a GOD thing to bring miracles.. they bring miracles, to proof that they are the prophets.. BUT they were told to go away, mocked, and many of the prophets have been killed.
Jesus bring miracles - BUT WHY THEN THEY WANT TO CRUCIFY HIM??
dont tell me you read about the pharisee in the bible, they want to crucify Jesus because of their sin..
@kiLuL76 Jews crucifed Jesus because He made Himself God. They accused Jesus that Jesus blasphemed when He said 'I am the Son of God' making Himself God.
@truetruthusa I am the Son of God, means He OBEYS the FARTHER very STRICT!
The jews tried to crucified Jesus not because he made himself God but rather, they said that Jesus claim to be GOD, so they have reason to crucify him. But Jesus never claimed that he is GOD.. never.. never did, and never will.
you are your father, your mother, your sister.. ya.. i understand that is logical.. you can be your mother at the same time.. not acting like you mother.. but BE your MOTHER.. cause you and your mother have the same nature..
@kiLuL76 Why are you thinking SO FLESHLY when you hear the word "The SON OF GOD". This term does not mean fleshly way. It shows the relation and nature. As Father is God, Son is God too. Mother does NOT come hear. Son of God is NOT a product of mother.
Call on the Name of the Lord and be saved! Jesus Loves You. He came to DIE just for you. He loved you so much!!! Allah or Muhammad DID NOT do anything for you!!
@truetruthusa Firstly, ALLAH.. will not do anything for me, but he gave me many things OUT of HIS MERCY.. see.. the difference, I DONT CARE.. if Allah did or did not do things for me.. I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR HIM.. cause HE IS MY GOD.. see? I SERVE HIM.. see?
YOU in the contrary.. wants GOD do something for you.. THEN ONLY YOU LOVE HIM???? HE DIED for YOU then YOU SAY HES GOD?? what is WRONG with YOU BRAIN?? have you no sense about GOD? thats not GOD..
@kiLuL76 Secondly, dont speak of Muhammad, which YOU DO NOT KNOW.. but you read some article about him that is not true..
I dont know your mother... have i say to you.. she is like a W**** ?... i have to read, and know about your mother.. not read about your mother in magazine and PASS Judgment..
how would you feel? if I say.. YOUR MOTHER DID NOTHING FOR YOU..
how does that feel.. you feel good? have you no SENSE AT ALL? talking about our BELOVED PROHPET like that?
@kiLuL76 If you ask me what my mother did for me, I will gladly tell you.
Is Muhammad your mother? Why are you comparing Muhammad with my mother?
So, Muhammad did not do anything for you, right?
Jesus accomplished salvation for you by taking the punishment of your sins upon Him. He did this because He loves you and there was NO OTHER way to save you from hell.
Believe what Jesus said. Believe what Jesus did for you on the cross to save you from hell punishment, YOU will be saved to go to heaven.
1Ti 2:5-6 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
if you do, InsyaAllah, he will guide you.. then you will follow jesus..
now, u just following paul.
Timothy? thats not canonical gospel.. ive just read it, i think it is a religious letter to timothy.. but having said that.. it was quite good letter.. but NOTHING of like Words of GOD.
@kiLuL76 The apostle Peter who walked with Jesus mentions Paul's epistles as the Scripture, ie Canonical. The message is from God eventhough God chose Paul to write it.
Who told Uthman to come up with a new Quran and burn other copies of Quran?
Don't you know what you have with you is Uthman's Quran?
@truetruthusa who told you Uthman came up with a new Quran?? why are you creating LIES.. you say you follow jesus.. and The Christ DO NOT LIE.. but you LIE, knowingly.. cause.. you dont really know wether Uthman came up with a new Quran..
IT THE VARIANT READINGS.. have you studied ARABIC LANGUANGE?? Uthmad put VOWEL SIGN for NON ARABS so the reading of the AL-QURAN is THE SAME..
why you not check this before you say UTHMAN CAME WITH NEW QURAN?
@truetruthusa Have you look at the original SCRIPT? theres no VOWELS SIGN.. the ARABIC LANGUAGE writing is easy for the arabs to read without the vowels sign, cause its their LANGUAGE..
like the aramaic.. Alef LAMTH HA.. that the consonant, with out vowel it could be read as ELOH, ELLA, ALLAH, OLLOH.. and it give different meaning, from CURSED to GOD.. so THE VOWEL is for NON ARAMAIC READERS..
@truetruthusa you think Muhammad pbuh put it in writings originally? No, the Prophet Muhammad pbuh had it MEMORIZED.. and he always check what his companions had memorized..
Until now, many muslims have memorized the WHOLE QURAN.. the READING is THE SAME...thru out THE WORLD.. no difference..
I dare you find one who could memorize the whole BIBLE..
even if you have people who memorized the bible.. THERE ARE SO MANY VERSIONS OF IT!
@truetruthusa somebody has thrown out an idea about scriptures..
YOU call every religion, burn all what every scriptures they have.. including the QURAN.. InsyaAllah, we will we write the Quran in a week.. cause many have memorize them..
But for others? ask you priest, the buddhist, the hindus or what ever religion it is.. no one memorize them..
@kiLuL76 Yes, Allah did not do anything to save you from hell and your sins. God did sent His Son as a Sacrifice in my place to save me from Hell. The Blood of Jesus washes all my sins away.
Tell me what can wash your sins away?
My God want me to just trust in Him and His Salvation came thru Jesus Christ. This is the way of Salavation for me. God did everything for me. I just have to walk in His holy steps.
God want you to trust Him for salvation, not on human religions.
@truetruthusa you say you walk on Jesus holy steps? why lie to yourself.. you dont walk at jesus steps, muslims do.. you walk on paul steps.. who jesus knew not.
@kiLuL76 Friend, I do not eat SWINE and DO NOT drink wine. Where does Jesus say do not eat swine?
Jesus commanded BAPTISM. Baptism is not washing. Baptism is to join Christ. There is only ONE baptism. This represent dying of the sinful old man and coming out of the water as a new person in Jesus to lead a holy life.
Tell me, what did Paul teach which is against the teaching of Jesus?
@truetruthusa you dont eat swine? really? what denomination of Christian are you? Seventh Day Advantist?
He does not eat swine by saying.. He did not eat.. He was A JEW.. he practice the LAW. Including the prohibition to EAT SWINE.. There is a saying in the bible
." For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished "
@truetruthusa what paul write, is a letter.. to someone.. but not a revelation.. it is his own words, although i agree most of it are aligned with what Jesus said, being nice, helping people, pray to God.. etc, etc.. but its not a revelation.. not a scripture, its not THE GOSPEL..
The Gospel were only with Jesus.. THE CHRIST.. not paul.
@truetruthusa the Father.. called by JESUS is not THE FARTHER like fleshly FARTHER.. you are the one who think fleshly whe you hear the word SON of GOD.. i dont..
In YOUR BIBLE.. its says.. BEGOTTEN not MADE.. what does BEGOTTEN means? I DARE YOU TO BRING A DICTIONARY, which says.. beggotten is not fleshly..
BRING YOUR PROOF my dear friend.. TELL YOUR SELF THAT..
@truetruthusa if it not in the literal sense.. it must be in the not literal sense.. which is NONSENSE.. cause u say begotten, but its not literal.. but give no answer..
@ truetruthusa
When the angel said, "Mary, god gives you a good tidings of a WORD from Him whose name is messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, -high honoured shall he be in this world and the next, near stationed to God. He shall speak to men in the cradle, and of age, and righteous he shall be, "lord" said Mary "How shall I have a son, seeing no mortal has touched me? "Even so, he said "God creates what He will..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa, Mat 13:32 "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father"
NOR THE SON, what does that mean..
but ONLY THE FARTHER??
Is it NOT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YOU???
these kinds of verse I believe is TRUE.. and SPOKEN BY JESUS, who was being said as the WORD from HIM..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
I love Jesus peace be upon him and I love Muhammad peace be upon him and I love God and all of his messengers and prophets. peace be upon them. But there is nothing that can be compared to God. God created me, I am his slave and I try to abide as much as I can by his rules. And I love to pray at least 5 times a day because it reminds me of why Allah created me in the first place.
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany Humans can not be compared to God. God can become a Human. Jesus is NOT just human. God became human. Only the Almighty God can do this. Son of God became a human to be punished for human's sins and save humans from hell punishment as prophesied in the Jewish Scripture.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Why should God become Jesus. If he died for your sins that means that you can do whatever bad stuff you want as long as you believe that jesus was God and you would still go to heaven. You are making it too easy. I rarely see any christians that pray. muslims pray at least 5 times a day and have to do much more stuff. But we love to do it. You think that by these little things you do you are going to heaven. Just saying I love Jesus and believing that he is God is not enough at all
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany Friend, if you believe Jesus died for your sins, then you have to follow the holy life of Jesus. The commandment is "Be holy as I am holy"
One who believes in Jesus should follow His teaching.
We do not make a show of our prayer. Christians are commanded to pray always, not 5 times!
God became a human to save humans from hell. There is no other way.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa You didn't read what I wrote. I said at least 5 times. This is the minimum. There is fasting, the is giving money to the poor and much more. God saves only the humans that he wants to be saved. not the hole human kind. I have the feeling christians don't fear God as much as they should fear him. People say christianity is closest to islam but I think there is a huge gap between us. Thank you
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany
We have to try to work and close the gaps, we have to call them out, the People of The Book..
im afraid if we dont do that.. Allah will asked each one of us, why do so many christians dont hear from us.. CRAZZY!!..
so.. we better do what we have been told.. i my self is starting on youtube.. hopefully it counts.. May Allah forgive my sins..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 walla you are right. The problem is that the muslims are not working together to spread the word of God.
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany Friend, 5 times prayer is NOT in Quran. Quran says 3. Muhamad changed to 5.
Muslims follow a religion. Christians follow not religion BUT Christ to HEAVEN.
Please do not compare Christians with Islam.
One is from heaven as Jesus came from heaven and the other is of earthly as Muhamad is of earth and died without knowing where he is going.
Do you know why the Jewish woman poisoned Mohamad at Kaibar?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa nono, you have not read the quran which means you are not in a position to argue with me about Islam. If you want to know, the Quran says neither 5 nor 3. Quran says I have only created mankind a jinkind to worship me. In many other parts the quran says, the winners are the ones who believe in God, pray and give money to the poor. Please don't just throw any information you heard somewhere. No knowledge is bad, but little knowledge is dangerous.
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany
So you agree with me that Quran does not say you have to pray 5 times.
Who came up with 5 times prayer? Mohamad or Uthman or later Caliphs?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa You said that the quran says 3 times so I don't agree with you but I agree with the fact that Quran doesn't mention the number of times. Mohamed peace be upon him tought us how to pray. Why did God teach Mohamed the quran? So that he will help us understand Islam. There is no way we could have learned this by ourselves. Just like God gave Jesus the book so that he will teach you how to submit to God. Unfortunately, the original doesn't exist.
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@Mohamedingermany You did not answer my question!
1) Who made 5 times a prayer in to a commandment if it is not in the Quran? Was it Mohamad or any Caliphs?
2) God did not teach Mohamad anything. It was the spirit that posessed him forced him down to recite which he heard from Waraqa.
3) God spoke to ONLY Biblical prophets
4) God did not give any book to Jesus. Jesus is the Word of God.
5) Was original NT present at the time of Mohamad?
Please answer my two questions. Thanks
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa First of all, I believe in your book and I believe in your prophets which are also mentioned in the quran. Mohamamd was inspired by God just like he was Inspired by Noah and Ismael and Isaac and Jacob and Abraham and Salomon and Jesus and all the other prophets peace be upon them. The second, the third and the fourth point you made are statements, not questions so the only way to argue is to prove wether they are right or wrong. I am not a scholar, I believe in what I believe.
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa a correction sorry. I meant just like Noah and Ismael and Isac and Abraham where inspired by God. Sorry again
Mohamedingermany 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa i agree with u truetruthusa,
be holy as i am holy.. eat not the swine as i dont eat swine, be circumsize as i am circumsize, drink no wine as i dont drink wine.. pray as i pray..
hmmm.... seem that.. you only say.. but you dont follow it.. well, we have muslim like that also.. like me.. but im trying to get rid of that slowly, InsyaALLAH..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 I DO NOT eat SWINE-VINE. This is not what make me to be holy, but the Blood of Jesus that washes my sins away!
So Jesus, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated?
But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man..Matt15:16-20
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa, im tired.. i think i need to rest for a while.. im sorry for whatever things i said that might offend you.. but if it is the Truth.. i cant help it..
and.. i dont really want to change your beliefs.. tried that.. but God showed me, that i can never put my will on to someone else.. cause God has made each human will be responsible of their own choices. Alhamdulillah.. All praise is to ALLAH.. the Most Gracious, Most Merciful..
see u again friend.. :)
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, I understand your frustrations to defend your religion. You are not offending me. Today also I rembered you in my prayer. I just want you to come to the KINGDOM OF GOD (heaven). I want you to escape your sins. I want you to be holy in Jesus. I want you to be in JOY and PEACE from God. I want you to know that Jesus is the ONLY WAY to heaven. I do not stand for a religion or any organisation. I stand for the Kingdom of God. With Love...Your friend for your Salvation.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa im not frustrated defending my religion.. im frustrated because of you my friend are his creation but you worship others.. thats is my frustration... anyway.. i could not do anything except try to explain to you..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 I worship the LIVING GOD. I worship no man. I worship no idol. I worship no prophet.
And I do not associate a prophet with God.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa if you worship Jesus, you are worshipping a man..
Jesus never ask you to worship him..
The way you say God love you, is by saying he came down and died for our sin.. thats not Gods love. Thats absurd..
We muslim says Allah is the Al-Rahman and Al-Rahim, bcause of the things that He has given to us,
Our eyes, hands, ears, mouths... brains.. hearts.. and mind.. so many things.. uncountable.. that why He is the Most Merciful.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Jesus is God whether He came in the form of a Human or in invisible form. Jesus accepted worshipped because He is God. Appostles worshipped Him. Angels were asked to worship Him.
Tell me what is God's love if the below reference is not?
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Allah has given you NOTHING. What you have is from the God of the Bible.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa, seed of a woman? will crush satan head? u see that is equivalent to Jesus is God and Jesus will die for Adams sin???
Abrahams sin?? Noah sin??
Have u tot about people before jesus, who died without knowing and believe that jesus died for their sin?? people who live n died in the jungle.. in the dessert, in the mountains.. Will they all go to HELL??
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Jesus died for all human before and after Jesus. It was the faith that saved people always. OT people expected Messiah's coming and they had faith in the coming of the Messiah. NT people also have to have same faith in Messiah. In NT Messiah died for our sins. Believe this, your sins will be washed away. If you don't you will have to bear your sins and be punished in hell forever!!
People die in sin will go to hell no matter when they lived or whether they heard about Jesus.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa It is not faith that saved people. It is ALLAH. your faith does not confirms He will save you.. it is ONLY by HIS MERCY..
NOTHING will SAVE you without His Mercy.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, IT is the MERCY of GOD that SAVES those who have FAITH in JESUS.
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa I HAVE FAITH in JESUS..
He was sent for the JEWS.. He DID what he was told.. BUT THEY WANT TO CRUCIFIES HIM to DISMISS him as THE CHRIST..
and some men.. because of the CHOICE they made, they have became SICK.. and call him GOD..
GOD RAISED him TO HEAVEN, not from the DEAD.. He is ALIVE..
but if you say God raised Him from the dead, you say, GOD raised a DEAD GOD from the DEAD.. WHATT??????
how can you be save ? you say GOD DIED!
ABSURD, UNTHINKABLE, NONSENSE!
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Yes my dear, Jesus is ALIVE. However, He DIED and is ALIVE forever!! He is coming back to those who believe that He died for them and follow Him as the Lord and Savior.
Believing in Jesus means: Believing in what He DID to save you from hell.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa
I believe Jesus.. or actually Isa.. in arabic.. I believe Moses.. NOAH, JACOB, JOSEPH.. I BELIEVE THEM ALL cause they are the PROPHETS of GOD.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa, i have answered your questioned.. but u dont understand.. ive told u..
There is NONE like unto Him. If Angel is a spirit, then He is not a Spirit.
He is not made of material or atoms or energy or anything..
He is GOD.
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 The God I know came in a human body to save me from hell. I know this God. This God is the God who created everything and the same God revealed in OT and NT.
Tell me, who is your God? Please do not borrow from the Bible. Tell me, who is Allah?
Friend, Allah does not exist. Allah was the Quraish tribe's main Idol worshipped at the time of Muhamad. Mohamad made Allah as the Only god in Kaaba.
I have written a lot, it is time for you to believe the message of the Christ.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa The god you know, DID not came in human body.. you believed he came in a human body.. The Farther. is THE GOD
Why should i not borrow your bible if it is TRUE from jesus.. we love jesus.. some story in the bible, i think are true, like the parables jesus gave talking about the owner of a Vineyard and the farmers..
Allah exist, and you are His creation..
Thanks for writing to believe the message of the Christ.. I do believe the Christ.. but not PAUL..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, a FAKE dollar will copy most of the things from the TRUE dollar bill. This is what Quran did. It copied most of the things from the Word of God (Holy Bible) to make it look like God's Word. Careful examination proves that Quran is NOT from God.
If you believe the message of Jesus, Did you repent of your sins and get BABPTIZED as Jesus commanded?
God used Paul to preach the Gospel of Jesus and write many of the NT which is the message of Jesus.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa You want to know who ALLAH is?? read the Quran, it tells about Him.
The One who created Heavens and Earth, The One who created Day for us to work and Night to rest. The One who created you in your mothers womb. The One who created me, The One who created satan and angels, The One who is The Almighty, The Most Beneficient, Most Merciful.
The One which ALL THINGS return to, even jesus himself..
SubhanAllah, THE CREATOR, The LORD of ALL THINGS.
HE is My GOD n your GOD.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76
Quran says:
Allah is the BEST of DECEIVERS (8:30 and 3:54)
Allah DESIRES TO LEAD PEOPLE ASTRAY (6:39, 125; 7:186)
Friend, HOW do you know you are NOT being deceived by Allah?
Allah is NOT my God. God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whose NAME is JEHOVAH is my GOD. This is the IMMANUEL (God with us).
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa How many times do i have to tell you.. The Best of Planners.. Plotters.. Plotting a scheme.. The Most WISE..
How do i know im not being deceived by Allah? I dont know how but, im sure, i am of no interest to Him..
He is your God, Abrahams God, Isaacs God, Jacobs..
Immanuel..? Jesus never refer himself as Immanuel..
worst.. you try to deceive your own self.. Allah, He is The GOD, called by jesus as the Farther.. but not as his literal farther.. but as his GOD.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 You are being deceived by Allah by NOT accepting the DEATH of Jesus on the cross for your sins. This way Allah deceives you to go to hell punishment for your sins.
OT prophets said the Messiah is IMMANUEL and the Mighty God (Isaiah 7:14, 9:6)
Jesus said He is the Father in the Flesh (John 14:7).
Allah was the main idol god of Quiraish tribe where Muhammad and Kadijah are from. It was the most powerful moon god. Tell me, who is Al-Manat?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa John 14:7, I looked it up.. dont LIE.. dont change the meaning.. just to win the argument.. ok for your sake.. i let you win.. so you dont have to lie..
Al manats is the IDOLS the quraish was worshipping.. whats the big deal? ahahahahah.. POWERFUL MOON GOD??? you believe that friend?
i dont mean to be rude.. how can you say it was the most powerful moon god? theres no moon god.. it was the beliefs of the quraish tribe..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Freind, tell me where I lied to you. I am not allowed to lie. It is not about I winning the argument. I am just presenting the truth with love and patience. It is up to you to listen.
Why did Muhammad bowed to the idols including manat?
Yes, Allah, the moon god was the main idol of Quraish tribe. It was known as Al LAH means the god. Muhammad distroyed all the 360 idols at Kaaba except the Al-Lah. This became the ONE god Allah and Muhammad became Allah's prophet.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa you read the quraish history.. and.. then.. you PICK IT UP as what ISLAM TEACHES.. how UNFAIR of you.. INEQUITY.. you dont think for a second.. that the Idol worshipper was there before Muhammad were even 40. Before he was given the revelation..
The Quran was sent down when Muhammad pbuh was at the age of 40. One of the GOALs is to eliminate the worship of IDOLS.. the KAABAH, is the FIRST HOUSE of WORSHIP built by ABRAHAM.. before moses.. jesus.. and Muhammad pbuta
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, yes - Muhammad distroyed all idols but kept the main idol and the worship of the Black stone, the pilgrimage, running around the Kaaba as pagans used to do.
This he kept this way to win favors from mecan idol worshippers. He included stories from Jews and Christians and proclaimed ONE god to get favor and followers from Christians and Jews. Kadijah and Waraq were some form of Christians.
Please read the history!!
Abraham DID NOT build Kaaba.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa ALLAH never DECEIVES any HUMAN.. look around you.. more head scarfs.. more Hijabs.. ask them..
they are running away from what paul teaches.. not Jesus.. what Jesus taught (Isa pbuh) is the TRUTH..
not PAUL, Jesus never mentioned Paul.. the GOSPEL is only by Jesus.. not LETTERS from PAUL to the ROMANS..
All the canonical gospel written by Mark, Matthew, Luke and John.. is the nearest to what Jesus say.. that is the Gospel..
PAUL??? TOTAL DIFFERENT STORY..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Religious formalities (hijab etc) are deceit from Allah. Allah make people think that they follow God and have some satisfaction. But they are one the way to hell since they REJECT the Salvation came from God thru the Sacrifice of Jesus.
Friend, Jesus appered to Paul who was a persecutor of Christians and chose him as a witness for Him.
If PAUL is a stumbling block for you to come to JESUS for salvation, just read the Gospels and the NT books came not thru Paul.
A Challenge!!
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa i have read it.. i agree some of it i think is from jesus.. but some were added.. like a believer who drinks poison and not die..
paul is not a stumbling block to me.. he is the stumbling block to the CHRISTIANS like you..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 If Paul is not a stumbling block to you, why are you talking against him?
You told me you do not want to listen to Paul. I wrote that you just have to listen to Jesus, the ONLY SAVIOR.
Are you ready to listen to Jesus? Are you ready to become a child of God?
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa okay.. im actually not against him.. may be i judge paul to early.. i dont know paul.. so i better be quite..
But if paul says.. jesus fullfill the law and you dont have to, he is teaching against what jesus has taught..
a child of GOD?? may be jesus.. but not me.. Im just His slave.. Jesus or Isa pbuh.. may have the right to be called as son of God, not because he was begotten, but because he was so strict in following orders of GOD.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Take the same approach from now on. If u do not know, do not write it.
As Paul says Jesus said He came to fulfill the LAW.
Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
No disagreement!
Either, you are a child of God or child of Devil.
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, ..for he is a liar and the father of it.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Mathhew? was it written by PAUL? the letters i know.. to timothy and to the romans.. but matthew? did paul write them?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa How can i accept his death.. Allah will not let His prophet (more over THE CHRIST, which He has ANNOINTS).. to be stoned and crucified and mocked and spat on.. thats ABSURD.. its like saying.. the Al-Mighty is POWERLESS..
so, i could not accept that.. He rotates the EARTHS everyday.. Makes the SUN rises on the EAST and SETS on the WEST.. He has created the UNIVERSE.. suddenly, He cant save the CHRIST?
theres no proof in the teaching of Jesus, he'll die for our sin
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, YOU and I are powerless. Jesus became like powerless human to be a substitute for YOU and ME.
At the Garden of Gethsemane, when Jesus used the sacred Name I AM they people who came to arrest Him fell back.
God allowed Jesus to be powerless to SAVE powerless humans.
Jesus CAME to DIE to SAVE you!! Jesus did not come just to teach. He could have chosen a human as a teacher or a prophet. But Son od God came to bear your sins on the cross so that you can escape hell.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa thats your interpretation of the bible.. powerless indeed...
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 That is not my interpretation.
Php 2:5-8 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa, just google yusha evans or joshua evans and yusuf estes, i think they have many sites where u can find their contact no.
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
a cleverly anti jewish clip
TheJasonking 1 month ago
Why this clip keep repeating the Jews, The Jews........ The romans was 1st to kill YASHUA,, do you remember when many had been killed? and by whom's order it was???? Not Jews for sure, and when you are saying the word Jews you are meaning Yashua's family too
TheJasonking 1 month ago
see people get with what they believe and what they wanna see in the Bible ... if you read it correctly its so much easier to understand
SuperSmashinator 1 month ago
this is soooo wrong... you put up scriptures that said yeshua said God is his father ... and scriptures that say you should honor your son as you do your father?? that crystal clear to me that yeshua is not God just granted his power for his obediance to God..
SuperSmashinator 1 month ago
Im not clear about the INHERITANCE of the SIN,
Im clear that you say infant DID NOT commit any sin, thank you for that..
now you are saying, we human inherit sin.. right? whos sin? whos nature to sin, human?
okay.. my problem is like this, let say a baby is born in a jungle, by jungle people who never heard of Jesus, Islam or any religion on earth..
what happen when the die? do they inherit the sin? an if they die, and dont believe in Jesus cause they never heard of him, do they go to hell?
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@truetruthusa, O Disbelievers!, I worship not that ye worship, Nor worship ye that which i worship, and I shall not worship that which ye worship, nor will ye worship that which I worship, unto you YOUR RELIGION, and unto me MY RELIGION.
May Allah Guides me, and May Allah have mercy on your soul. SubhanAllah, BLESSED IS HE, THE MOST GRACIOUS and MOST MERCIFUL..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
KiLuL76,
Gabriel told Mary that Jesus would be called the Son of God (Luk 1:35)
Gabriel told the prophet Daniel that Massiah would DIE for others (Dan 9:26)
Muhammad received a revelation that is contrary to what the angel Gabriel told Mary and Daniel. That means it was not Gabriel who appeared to Muhammad but an angel of light (satan) (2Cor 11:14).
Muhammad was terrified and did not know who appeared to him! This was because the angel was not from God.
God so Loved you that He sent His Son
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa massiah would die for others, not that gabriel say the massiah will die for salvation.. your CONCEPT of "GOD" is that your so called GOD will be of SERVICE to you.. for US MUSLIM, wallahualam, WE are of SERVICE TO HIM.. we muslim are HIS SLAVES.. Satans are HIS SLAVES, you are HIS SLAVES, angles are HIS SLAVES, EVERYTHING is HIS SLAVES.. HIS CREATION..
whether you like it or not.. SOON you will know.. IN TRUTH.. you will know.. ALL are HIS SLAVES.. and HE (ALLAH) IS MY GOD..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76
1) The angel of God told Joseph: And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will SAVE His people from their SINS."(Mat 1:21).
2) Messiah is saving people from sins through His death as prophesied by Isaiah, the prophet of God.
Isa 53:8 For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people ..
Isa 53:5-6 But He was wounded for our transgressions, And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa
"are you saying your brains dont have to be use to find the ways?" < I regret that.. forgive me friend.. my intention was not to imply anything negative, but i see this as something negative.. its from myself NOT ALLAH.. so please forgive me.. cause ALLAH will NOT forgive me if you dont.. Please friend.. im sorry..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
When the sons of isacc and ishmael Shake hands and realise they are B R O T H E R S or cousins at the very least . Even these two made emends when one want to kill the other REMEMBER OUR. NEIGHBOUR. wIll allways be our brothers
cathlicboy 2 months ago
@cathlicboy Yes, Isaac and Ishmael are brothers and both worhipped the God of Abraham who was called JEHOVAH (and EL for God. IshmaEL). They did not worship Allah, the meccan god. Muslims are worshipping the Al-LAH (the god) that was worshipped as the moon god in mecca. This Allah is the unknown god NEVER known by Abraham.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa, i asked u a question about satan, u refuse to answer.. then u expect me to ask u again.. honestly.. buy u judge my question as not important..
is Jesus the God of Satan?
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, Pl reply to my comments!!
To answer you: YES, Jesus is the God of Satan too.
You did not answer my questions!!
Why do muslims Sacrifice at Mecca?
Why did Moses, Aaron, David etc Sacrificed animals?
Why did God was pleased with Abel's sacrifice ans not Cain's? (God was showing that ONLY thru a sacrifice one can approach God).
This was a picture of the Sacrifice of His Son to bring people to God.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa hehehe.. now, since you have already say that.. ok, ill answer your question first.
First - Why do we sacrifice at Mecca?? we make sacrifices of animal during the HAJJ, and its NOT COMPULSARY if you dont have the means.. you can make sacrifies at your HOME during the HAJJ..
as for WHY we do it in Mecca? its the instruction by our GOD.
Personally, it only symbolize the sacrifices we make everyday.. for ALLAH..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 So, Why Allah instruct you to sacrice an animal?
In the Bible animal sacrifice was instituted so that people can approach God. A sinner CANNOT approach God without a blood sacrifice.
God covered the nakedness of Adam (caused by sin) by an animal skin in the garden of Eden. Animal was sacrificed to get the animal skin to cover the consequence of sin. This was the picture of how sins should be dealt with since SIN is a serious issue.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa and in addtion, SACRIFICE is to let go, or to give something away thay YOU LOVE SO MUCH in your possession, and it benefit others. we dont call it sacrifice if you give your torn down shoes to some shelters.. the slaughtering of animals is just a symbol in every year.. that WE muslims must make sacrifices for HIM..buf ofcourse we have to READ FIRST! his Words first so that he can make us understand.. it is not just like "go and kill yourself" for Allah..
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kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 If "go and kill yourself" for Allah is not the way, is "go and kill others" for Allah the way?
Why Allah need sacrifices from Muslims?
If animal sacrifice is just a symbol for your own sacrificial life WHY Allah make an INNOCENT Animal DIE?
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa the first verse that were sent down from Allah to his Mesengger (Muhammad pbuh) by the Angel Gabriel was the instruction to "READ!" or "PROCLAIM!".. meaning to say.. you read the Quran first! and ask for His Mercy so that you can understand.. and be patient.. so all the prayers, alms giving, sacrifices, what ever good deeds that you want to do, it comes later.. because first.. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.. what He is TELLING US.. by HIS WORDS.. in the QURAN.
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, there was NOTHING to read when "angel" told Mohamad to read. Mohamad did not know how to read ("angel" should have known this before!). Then angel said 'Recite'!!
You DO NOT have to read Quran in order to do good. Most people who are doing good works are the people who do not read Quran.
Isa 64:6 ..And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags..
Rom 3:12 ..THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, NO, NOT ONE."
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa Why did Moses, Aaron, David etc sacrificed animals? ok, personally, i understand that ISHMAEL was the first GREAT SACRIFICE of HUMANS that GOD told Abraham to slaughter, ABRAHAM OWN SON.. but at the moment Abraham was about to slaughter Ishmael, GOD had change it to animals, it is only a TEST.. not that ALLAH wants to KNOW, HE ALREADY KNOW.. its HIS MERCY.. to show US, that he ABRAHAM is THE GREAT PROPHET.. willing to kill his OWN SON for ALLAH!!
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Let me correct you first. It was the ISAAC, the promised son from the WIFE of ABRAHAM was the one GOD specifically asked Abraham to sacrifice (Gen 22:2-9). The servent woman Hagar and her son Ishmael was cast out from the house before this incident (Gen 21:12).
Why did God allowed an innocent ram to be slaughtered for a burnt offering instead of his son if it was just a test?
Why Isaac was substituted with a ram here?
This was pointing to "The Lamb of God" who would become a substitute.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa so, what Moses, Aaron and David did was only to symbolize the EVENT and to remind us, that Abraham was a TRUE PROPHET OF GOD, and was very OBEDIENT, and also to remind us to make sacrifices along the way, however small it is..
Personally, GOD does not WANT the BLOOD of ISHMAEL, he can create a million Ishmael if He is WILLING.. He WANTED to SHOW.. a SAMPLE of a VERY OBIDIENT SLAVE of HIS..
Our GOD, DOES NOT NEED ANYTHING FROM US, not our sacrifice, nor our obidience. we need Him.
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 If Aaron and David were trying to prove that Abraham was true prophet it would have been a kind of human worship. They were sacrificing because it was the command of God. They were not suppose to follow any human. Aaron, Moses or David did not tell people to follow them but since they were TRUE Prophets they told people to follow God's Law.
Yes, God did not want the blood of Isaac or an animal. This sacrifice was pointing to the Sacrifice God would make to save the people from their sin
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa so, why did GOD pleased with able an not cains? God showing only thru sacrifies one can approach GOD? im sorry my friend, In ISLAM.. i dont believe i entitled to approach Him.. i dont believe ALL my GOOD deeds are comparable of His BOUNTY.. let me tell you something which I believe..
Only THRU HIS MERCY, you can approach Him, only thru HIS MERCY you can enter paradise, Only thru HIS MERCY you can do this and that.. a former christian told me, and I BELIEVE him. he is Yusha Evans.
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 You are correct, ONLY thru God's MERCY anyone can enter paradise. God's mercy revealed in the SACRIFICE of Jesus.
Eph 2:4-8 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, .. made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa let me tell you also, that I WAS A MUSLIM since i was BORN, but never did i understand His MERCY, look at YUSHA EVANS, he just converted to ISLAM maybe 10 years ago.. but HE GAVE the KNOWLEDGE to YUSHA.. not ME.. WHY??? cause of HIS MERCY to YUSHA.. ALLAH is JUST.. you work, HE PAYS YOU AS HE LIKE!..
i dont read the quran.. so i dont understand at first.. but when yusha tells me that i cant enter jannah with my good deeds, than i start to realize, He is subtituting me, Nauzubillah
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@truetruthusa He is subtituting me with Yusha EVANS who is a BETTER MUSLIM than myself.. SubhanALLAH.. i dont want be subtituted with other people.. ya ALLAH.. i dont want.
im sorry cause, im a bit emotional.. I love my GOD very much.. i dont want Him to subtitute me with other guy, cause i didn't do what He tells me or do His WILL.. so my friend.. sacrifice is just a small thing to Allah.. His MERCY is GREAT.. so its not that important to Him if i sacrifice or not.. okay..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, God is JUST. A Just God has to deal with sin. He has to punish sin, otherwise God is not a Righteous Judge. Same time God is LOVE. Love of God want to save humans from punishment.
The Son of God was ready to absorb the wrath of God (becuse of our sin) so that we can escape the punishment. Jesus became a SINLESS human to be a substitute for punishment. Yusah Evan cannot be a substitute because he is a sinner and need to be punished for his sins.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa I have answered you to the best of my ability.. if God is willing, InsyaAllah it is TRUE..
so now, since you say that Jesus is the God of Satan.. show me where in the bible that satan call jesus or adresses jesus as GOD.. BRING YOUR PROOF..
For the ease of your referrence, please check this surah in the Holy Quran, if you want.. im not forcing you.. you are own your own on this..
Surah Al-Hijr (15) ayah no. 36.
Read also ayah 39.. TWICE in the Quran Satan call ALLAH as LORD
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Satan calling Jesus "Son of God" - Matt 8:29, Mar 3:11, 5:7; Lk 4:41
Jesus cast out satan. Mohamad could not do this. Jesus did not come on earth to be called "LORD" by satan. However, Jesus is called LORD in the NT and Allah is called LORD in Quran.
Satan is calling Jesus "the Holy One of God!" (Mar 1:24). Has satan call any human with this title?
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa, thats is your major problem of God, to you he is like human.. you expect him to sacrifice his own son because he expect us to sacrifice.. What is actually have u sacrifice for God? nothing.. u expect God sacrifice himself for your own benefit.. just attain faith and work not good deeds..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Yes, My God is the LOVING GOD. That is why He send His Son to absorb my punishment as a substitute. Your god left everything to you to attain salvation because he do not have a way of salvation.
You are are just hoping that Allah will forgive you at the last day.
How do you know you will be forgiven? Adam was not forgiven by Allah. Do you think you have a better chance?
Friend, Bible teaches that you have to be holy and God is holy. Means-you should be like Jesus. Is it not good deeds?
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa
Quote "How do you know you will be forgiven? Adam was not forgiven by Allah. Do you think you have a better chance?"
How then you know Adam was not forgiven by ALLAH? where you get this? from your bible? which bible? the one that teaches story about INCESTS?? did you read through you bible? did you? havent you read that? INCEST in details? what do your bible really teaches? a believer can drink poison?... tell me then. tell me.. friend..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76
Show me in Quran where it says Allah forgave Adam?
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa
Quote "You are are just hoping that Allah will forgive you at the last day?"
How can you know if you believe Jesus, then you'll be forgiven thru his sacrifice.. because it is said in the bible right? well my GOD promise me in the Quran that He Will forgive me if I stay on the right path, and He'll be my guardian..
what difference that it makes, both from the scripture.. Unless, if i believe in Jesus, some sort of paper in writing falls from the sky telling me YOUR FORGIVEN!
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@truetruthusa
Quote "My God is the LOVING GOD. That is why He send His Son to absorb my punishment as a substitute"
If, and every strong IF, if God has a son, and sacrifice his sons for others, i wouldnt dare to place my hope on him.. HE KILLED his OWN SON, what EVEN ME!.. He doesnt love his own son, so what chance do I have, jesus dont eat swine, and dont drink wine.. HE GOT SACRIFICED.. you.. eat swine and drink wine.. will be punished..
i dont know.. that is purely imaginary.. hmm..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@truetruthusa "Your god left everything to you to attain salvation because he do not have a way of salvation"
God gave me brain to think, god gave me eyes to see, mouth to speak, ears to listen, so that i can find my way to Him, ON HIS TERMS and ONLY BY HIS MERCY.. so, ofcourse he left something for me to do with my brains, my eyes, my ears.. and HE GAVE ME HEART.. to feel.. so that i can USE THEM to find the WAY.. by HIS MERCY..
are you saying your brains dont have to be use to find the ways?
kiLuL76 2 months ago
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@kiLuL76 God gave me brain to think, god gave me eyes to see, mouth to speak, ears to listen, so that i can find my way to Him, ON HIS TERMS and ONLY BY HIS MERCY.. so, ofcourse he left something for me to do with my brains, my eyes, my ears.. and HE GAVE ME HEART.. to feel.. so that i can USE THEM to find the WAY.. by HIS MERCY.. Way to SALVATION, InsyaALLAH..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, Jesus is the WAY (John 14:6). You do not have to look for one. And Jesus is the ONLY WAY to God.
How do you know that your god will have mercy on you? Do you know your god? What is his name? What did this god do for you?
If your god did not forgive Adam HOW do you know that your sins will be forgiven?
I am writing to make you think ...
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa He gave me sunlight, He gave me heart, He gave me vision, hearing, touch, sense, breathing, air, water, food, vitamins, oranges, apples, sun, moon, wisdom, intelligence, knowledge, creativity, curiousity, house, money, wealth, health..
What did Allah did for me? nothing, He dont do things, Hes GOD, He ONLY WILLS it.. and IT BE DONE.. SubhanAllah, the Almighty, Blessed is He (ALLAH) from what you ascribe Him with..
you are making me think, but i see yourself do not.. maybe im wrong
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 It is the God of the Bible who created everything is giving everything to everyone. Everyone including Athiests, Hindus, Budhists, Muslims, Jews and Christians benefits from God. This is the general concept of God.
However, God of the Bible is a personal God who revealed Himself to His creation both in OT and in NT. In NT, to SAVE us from hell punishment.
God DID something already for us so that we can escape hell punishment.
John 3:16, John 3:36
truetruthusa 2 months ago
John 6:25
25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?” 26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”
JesusisLord685 3 months ago
@JesusisLord685 "For on him GOD the Father has placed his seal of approval"
what approval.. approval to be GOD the Son.. or approval to do His Mighty Works..
kiLuL76 3 months ago
@JesusisLord685 Jesus needs approval? isnt he GOD like you say (May Allah forgive me).. what kind of GOD needs approval?
kiLuL76 3 months ago
ill give $10,000 if anybody can give me proof about this
pkmnmaster29 4 months ago
@truetruthusa,
is Jesus the God of satan?
kiLuL76 5 months ago
@kiLuL76 Jesus is the God who came as a Human to be punished for our sins. This is the God's way of saving us from hell punishment.
Is Jesus your God? Is Jesus the Son of God for you? Did Jesus die for your sins?
Please ask these question to yourself before worring about Satan. Why are you interested in Satan? I am just wondering!
Jesus SO LOVED YOU He became a Human and was punished in your place to SAVE you from your sins as written in Jewish and Christian Scriptures.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa im not concern about satan, instead im concern about you.. thinking jesus is God, that is why i ask you.. if Jesus is God, he must be the God of Satan rite?
would he be punish for my sin in killing your parents? you like to see Jesus die if i kill your parents so that my sins are forgiven??
There is no justice in seeing what you call GOD, DIE for sins of human.. dont just believe.. think.. read.. and reason..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, you should open yourself to the Word of God in order to understand this truth.
Atleast TWO Old Testament prophets revealed the Messiah DYING for the sins of others. This is the LOVE of God. This was the ONLY righteous way to save mankind from hell.
Mohamad and Allah could not take this Love of God and REJECTED it.
And Quran correctly says all Muslims will have to go to hell (they rejected God's plan).
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa This was the only righteous way?? suddenly YOUR GOD CANT JUST FORGIVE, he must need sacrifice.. and you say HIS LOVING??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR MIND??
why say Mohammad and Allah, its Muhammad, I respect your belief and spell jesus as it is, secondly, Muhammad is JUST A MESSENGER, not GOD, he doesnt have any power on his own.. this is the disease of your mind, thinking Muhammad pbuh, as someone who has some share of power with GOD. HE DOES NOT HAVE..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76
Say, someone stole 1Million from you and at the court the judge just forgave him.
Was he a righteous judge?
Why didn't God just forgive Adam when he sinned? A RIGHTEOUS GOD cannot hid sin under the carpet.
Sorry, Muhammad. TRUE GOD NEVER associated any prophets along with Him in the DECLARATION OF faith. But you say"Allah..and Muhammad is his prophet".
Can you see the DECEIT here? Can you show me statement like this for any Prophet of God?
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa,
so the JUDGE is a righteous judge when i kill your father and sacrifice you, so my sin would not be hid under the carpet. cause if i pay the price, its not sacrifice, it PUNISHMENT.. so, let me kill one of your brothers and you sacrifice.. to be jail for life for me.. THAT IS JUST TO YOU?? MY GOD.. what had happened to your mind?
Friend, i think i have to the best of my ability to explain and convey the message that, ALLAH is ONE.
I bear Witness, There is NO GOD except ALLAH.
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, I guess you are not getting what I am saying here. Let me try again..
All humans are sinners and deserve to go to hell.
One human cannot take the sin of another human because everyone should be punished for their own sin.
God Loved Us so much He sent His Son as a substitute to be punished for our sins (Jesus has NO SIN of His OWN)
God is ONE. This is the teaching of both OT and NT.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa ya.. i got it thanks.. when a baby is born, they will definitely sin for crying.. a baby should be born not crying and immediately pray to his GOD in his first 10 minutes after the baby got out..
A baby who died during its infancy, is not forgiven, cause he dont believe in Jesus, so the baby will not be save.. or maybe the baby is not yet human?... am i getting it?
cause you say.. ALL HUMAN ARE SINNERS, so baby human? are they human?
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Dear Friend, please do not try to understand what I di not write. I did not say baby who died in the infancy did not get forgiven. This baby did not willfully do any sins eventhough baby is a sinner. God will not punish for the sins they did not commit. When Jesus died for sins Jesus died for the sins of an infant too.
You need a Savior because your are still willfully REJECTING the Salvation came from God. Willfully accept that you are a sinner and you need to be saved from sin.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa sins of INFANT?? what? why sins did they do my friend.. what sins? they cried? and sin againt themselves?.. jesus died for the sins of an infant? thats its not logical.. so not logical.. i cant imagine where the sin came from when a baby cried when being born..
I am not rejecting salvation came from GOD, i am rejecting that GOD DIED for my salvation.. THAT IS ABSURD.. so ABSURD.. 100 millions times ABSURD.. UNTHINKABLE.. NONSENSE..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 I did not say an infant sinned. You have sinned and you need to be saved from the punishment of the sins unless you accept the God's way of Salvation thru Jesus Christ.
An infant cannot sin eventhough the sin nature is there in an infant.
I know it is foolishness to you the God's way of Salvation. If it was man's way of salvation it would have been easy for you.
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa sin nature is there in an infant? what does it mean? the infant is born with sin? i dont get it.. infant dont sin, but is born with sin.. whos sin was it? ADAM??
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Child of a sinner is a sinner. This is why even if you do not teach a child to sin it does sin. Who taught them to lie when they get older? Please observe the behavior of a child as he/she grows up and tell me who taught them to commit sin?
Child of a tiger is a tiger, child of a pig is a pig, etc..
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa hmm.. i was talking about an infant who died during his or her first year of living, not when he grows old, thats already human.. man.. dont run from the subject.. my question was IF AN INFANT WAS BORN, WHAT IS HIS SIN??? not that the farther of the child is sinner or not, YOU are CLAIMING, everybody born with SIN.. now WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN THAT..
you tell yourself, how does an infant SIN, NOT when he GROWS OLDER.. but when he/she was born.. if u cant answer, just say so..
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Dear friend, I thought I answered you about the sin of an infant.
Infant DID NOT commit any sin.
I was explaining to you that the sin nature is already in an infant. Let me know if you are not clear about my answer.
With love and prayer
your friend
truetruthusa 2 months ago
@truetruthusa Im not clear about the INHERITANCE of the SIN,
Im clear that you say infant didnt commit any sin, thank you.
now you are saying, we human inherit sin.. right? whos sin? whos nature to sin, human?
okay.. my problem is like this, let say a baby is born in a jungle, by jungle people who never heard of Jesus, Islam or any religion on earth, what happen when the die? do they inherit the sin? an if they die, and dont believe in Jesus cause they never heard of him, do they go to hell?
kiLuL76 2 months ago
@kiLuL76 Sorry for the delay. My account was not working. Babies are not able to sin willfully. Say this baby comes to an age where he/she can sin. Then the willfull sin will be punished in hell. A righteous God has to punish sin. We know that all have sinned. For this reason God sent His Son to be punished in our place so we have an oppertunity to go to heaven.
truetruthusa 1 month ago
@truetruthusa its okay friend.. thanks for the explanation.. :-)
To me, God are not subjected to Rightesousness or Wickedness.. it is HE who sets the limits, who is the source of ALL KNOWLEDGE, the good and bad of everything.
He explains Himself cause He is The Most Merciful..
So.. He doesnot need to send His Son, and He has No SON of His OWN.. HE creates.. He does not BEGET nor is He BEGOTTEN.
If We repent.. ask for His Mercy.. InysaAllah we will be forgiven..
kiLuL76 1 month ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, Since GOD is Merciful He sent His Son to save us from hell. This is the LOVE of God. Jewish prophets Isaiah and Daniel fortold the suffering of Messiah for the sins. Jesus fulfilled this prophecy by dying for your and my sins. It is upto you to decide to accept the SALVATION God gave us thru His Son.
Jesus proved Himself who He is. He died and resurrected and proved Himself after His resurrection in different circumstances to those who follow Him.
Allah never appeared!
truetruthusa 1 month ago
@truetruthusa yes friend, i AGREE that HE is THE MOST MERCIFUL.. He did send His Messenger, but not His BEGOTTEN son.
Jesus did not DIED, he still lives. The JEWS dont believe he is the Messiah.. thats why the TRIED to kill him. You believe that he is the Messiah.. i believe it also. But u also say Jesus is also GOD.. what GOD needs to be ANNOINTED???
human can be annointed.. not GOD.
GOD ANNOINTS.. (pardon my english)
My SINS will be mine.. yours will be yours.. not JESUS!
kiLuL76 4 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 We DO NOT need messengers. We need SAVIOR. This is why Son of God came- To save us from hell. Mohamad is not a messenger of God. What did Mohamad did for you?
Death of Jesus is a Historical fact and both OT and NT prophets agreed it. Only Mohamad denied it. NO one else!!
Yes, you sins is yours and you will be punished in hell eternally unless you believe that Jesus died for your sins.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa I dont believe Jesus died for my sins.. I dont believe he died. They did not killed him, nor did they crucify the CHRIST.. refer the LAW.. the CHRIST can never be crucified.. unless it is GODs will.
Im sorry, it is not only Muhammad that denies the DEATH of the Christ. THE CHRIST himself will deny that it was him on the cross..
God made it appears to them, that they killed the Christ.. but they did not.. And Allah will judge them.
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 If you don't believe Jesus died for your sins, you will go to hell to be punished for your sins FOREVER. There is no ESCAPE. You still have time to escape hell.
Who told you Jesus did not die?
Listen to Jesus:
Mar 9:31 For He taught His disciples and said to them, "The Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of men, and they will kill Him. And after He is killed, He will rise the third day."
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa
Allah s.w.t. has revealed to Muhammad pbuh, THEY DID NOT KILL HIM, NOR DID THEY CRUCIFY HIM.. (Jesus)..
The CHRIST cant be Crucified.. thats the LAW of GOD. The ANNOINTED.. Al Masih.. THE MESSIAH..
if the christ is crucified than the JEWS would be correct, Jesus was not the christ.. The Jews were not just trying to kill him.. but to disprove Jesus title as THE MESSIAH.. so they had to crucify Jesus pbuh..
He is THE CHRIST.. JESUS is THE CHRIST..
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 God NEVER revealed to Mohamad anything as this 'spirit' was the one speaking (if it is true) to Mohamad. God will not give a contradictory message that He gave to OT prophets and what happend.
Read Isaiah chapter 53 to see the dying Messiah and Daniel Chapter 9.
Christ always lives because He was resurrected from dead on the 3rd day and is LIVING FOREVER.
Follow the one who is LIVING forever!!
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa okay.. if you say i dont believe Jesus died for my sins..
Did Adam know about Jesus? did he believe Jesus will die for his sin? so Adam will go to HELL?
Did Abraham and Noah know about Jesus did for their sin? Do they GO TO HELL also?
Did Moses say anything about believing Jesus DIED for his sins.. Do Moses GO TO HELL?
Now.. BRING ME YOUR PROOF..
no need to bring your LOGIC and SENSE.. may be that would be easier.. bring proof that all these men will go to HELL
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Adam knew the coming of Messiah when God gave the promise that "the SEED of the woman will crush his (satan's) head."
Abraham got the same promise and so does Moses. The Sacrificial system was instituted for the coming of the true SACRIFIC (Massiah) to put away sins.
Jesus did for OT and NT people.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Muhammad did everything he was told.. to be the EXAMPLE of how to live on earth.. be good to others.. Muhammad has no power on his own.. he did not bring any miracles like the prophets before him but a MIRACLE of ALL MIRACLE.. the QURAN..
why no miracles like jesus? ask the JEWS, Jesus heals the blind, the lepers and give life to the dead.. BUT ThEY TRIED TO KILL HIM..
so.. what miracles are u looking for..
THE SUN.. look at it.. THATS A MIRACLE..
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Don't you know IF Mohamad was living now and doing the stuff he did as an example to the mankind, he would be in PRISON right away!!
Was 54y marrying a 9y child Example to mankind?
Was killing the innocent Jewish tribe at Kaibar an example?
Was marrying Daughter-in-law (Adopted son's) an example?
Was lying about Jesus death an example?
Friend, I will show you the example for the mankind to follow. It is JESUS CHRIST and His teaching for the whole humankind.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Lying about Jesus ?
Thats the problem with your mind, you believe so much that Jesus DIED.. even if people tell you the truth.. you will say they lie, cause u believe.. but you dont think it through..
Marrying a 9yo girl, marrying daugther in law - adopted son.. these things are mentioned in the Quran, but you cherry pick them up, to suit your beliefs without reading throug the Quran..
This is what Jesus is saying about, Seeing they SEE NOT, Hearing they HEAR NOT.
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa
I believe Jesus is also a good example for humankind.. i BELIEVE THAT.. cause Jesus is THE MESSIAH.. THE CHRIST..
I believe and follow.. but you.. you believe but you DONT FOLLOW
Jesus fast, you dont, Jesus were circumsized, Christians DONT, Jesus Prayed, Christ Dont pray.. they sing in CHURCH.. Jesus DONT EAT SWINE, you DO, JESUS DONT DRINK WINE, YOU DO..
So.. I not only believe but i follow Jesus as well.. cause its the same Message.
Hope u understand.
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, People knew Mohamad was not a prophet. This is why they asked him a miracle if he was really the prophet of God.
How can an abrogated book be a miracle? This miracle Quran says shooting stars keeps Satan away, sun sets in murky water, seven earths, etc..
Mohamad proved himself as a false prophet by his actions and contradictory messages from the OT and NT.
Why did the Jewish woman poisoned him which led him to die?
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa It is revealed in the Quran..
Miracles are for those who look with their eyes only.. THINKING that its a GOD thing to bring miracles.. they bring miracles, to proof that they are the prophets.. BUT they were told to go away, mocked, and many of the prophets have been killed.
Jesus bring miracles - BUT WHY THEN THEY WANT TO CRUCIFY HIM??
dont tell me you read about the pharisee in the bible, they want to crucify Jesus because of their sin..
so what miracle u want?
kiLuL76 3 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Jews crucifed Jesus because He made Himself God. They accused Jesus that Jesus blasphemed when He said 'I am the Son of God' making Himself God.
truetruthusa 3 weeks ago
@truetruthusa I am the Son of God, means He OBEYS the FARTHER very STRICT!
The jews tried to crucified Jesus not because he made himself God but rather, they said that Jesus claim to be GOD, so they have reason to crucify him. But Jesus never claimed that he is GOD.. never.. never did, and never will.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 I am the Son of God means Father-Son relation. As Father is God, Son is God too. Son is of the Father. Father and Son have SAME nature.
Tell me what does "Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." mean?
In Lk 6:46 and Jn 13:13 Jesus says He is LORD a title given ONLY to God in the NT and in Quran Lord is Allah (1:2, 2:26).
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa
you are your father, your mother, your sister.. ya.. i understand that is logical.. you can be your mother at the same time.. not acting like you mother.. but BE your MOTHER.. cause you and your mother have the same nature..
GOD has a family..
TOTALY ABSURD! UNTHINKABLE!
Jesus Christ!
May Allah Guide you to the right path..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Why are you thinking SO FLESHLY when you hear the word "The SON OF GOD". This term does not mean fleshly way. It shows the relation and nature. As Father is God, Son is God too. Mother does NOT come hear. Son of God is NOT a product of mother.
Call on the Name of the Lord and be saved! Jesus Loves You. He came to DIE just for you. He loved you so much!!! Allah or Muhammad DID NOT do anything for you!!
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Firstly, ALLAH.. will not do anything for me, but he gave me many things OUT of HIS MERCY.. see.. the difference, I DONT CARE.. if Allah did or did not do things for me.. I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR HIM.. cause HE IS MY GOD.. see? I SERVE HIM.. see?
YOU in the contrary.. wants GOD do something for you.. THEN ONLY YOU LOVE HIM???? HE DIED for YOU then YOU SAY HES GOD?? what is WRONG with YOU BRAIN?? have you no sense about GOD? thats not GOD..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Secondly, dont speak of Muhammad, which YOU DO NOT KNOW.. but you read some article about him that is not true..
I dont know your mother... have i say to you.. she is like a W**** ?... i have to read, and know about your mother.. not read about your mother in magazine and PASS Judgment..
how would you feel? if I say.. YOUR MOTHER DID NOTHING FOR YOU..
how does that feel.. you feel good? have you no SENSE AT ALL? talking about our BELOVED PROHPET like that?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 If you ask me what my mother did for me, I will gladly tell you.
Is Muhammad your mother? Why are you comparing Muhammad with my mother?
So, Muhammad did not do anything for you, right?
Jesus accomplished salvation for you by taking the punishment of your sins upon Him. He did this because He loves you and there was NO OTHER way to save you from hell.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa its not a comparison of ur mom and the Prophets.. its an example of somebody telling a LIE..why dont u understand?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Sorry, I did not understand it.
Believe what Jesus said. Believe what Jesus did for you on the cross to save you from hell punishment, YOU will be saved to go to heaven.
1Ti 2:5-6 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa you dont want to understand it..
if you do, InsyaAllah, he will guide you.. then you will follow jesus..
now, u just following paul.
Timothy? thats not canonical gospel.. ive just read it, i think it is a religious letter to timothy.. but having said that.. it was quite good letter.. but NOTHING of like Words of GOD.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 The apostle Peter who walked with Jesus mentions Paul's epistles as the Scripture, ie Canonical. The message is from God eventhough God chose Paul to write it.
Who told Uthman to come up with a new Quran and burn other copies of Quran?
Don't you know what you have with you is Uthman's Quran?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa who told you Uthman came up with a new Quran?? why are you creating LIES.. you say you follow jesus.. and The Christ DO NOT LIE.. but you LIE, knowingly.. cause.. you dont really know wether Uthman came up with a new Quran..
IT THE VARIANT READINGS.. have you studied ARABIC LANGUANGE?? Uthmad put VOWEL SIGN for NON ARABS so the reading of the AL-QURAN is THE SAME..
why you not check this before you say UTHMAN CAME WITH NEW QURAN?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa Have you look at the original SCRIPT? theres no VOWELS SIGN.. the ARABIC LANGUAGE writing is easy for the arabs to read without the vowels sign, cause its their LANGUAGE..
like the aramaic.. Alef LAMTH HA.. that the consonant, with out vowel it could be read as ELOH, ELLA, ALLAH, OLLOH.. and it give different meaning, from CURSED to GOD.. so THE VOWEL is for NON ARAMAIC READERS..
Dont you know why the called it uthmani?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa you think Muhammad pbuh put it in writings originally? No, the Prophet Muhammad pbuh had it MEMORIZED.. and he always check what his companions had memorized..
Until now, many muslims have memorized the WHOLE QURAN.. the READING is THE SAME...thru out THE WORLD.. no difference..
I dare you find one who could memorize the whole BIBLE..
even if you have people who memorized the bible.. THERE ARE SO MANY VERSIONS OF IT!
some 66 books, some 77..
EXPLAIN..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa somebody has thrown out an idea about scriptures..
YOU call every religion, burn all what every scriptures they have.. including the QURAN.. InsyaAllah, we will we write the Quran in a week.. cause many have memorize them..
But for others? ask you priest, the buddhist, the hindus or what ever religion it is.. no one memorize them..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Yes, Allah did not do anything to save you from hell and your sins. God did sent His Son as a Sacrifice in my place to save me from Hell. The Blood of Jesus washes all my sins away.
Tell me what can wash your sins away?
My God want me to just trust in Him and His Salvation came thru Jesus Christ. This is the way of Salavation for me. God did everything for me. I just have to walk in His holy steps.
God want you to trust Him for salvation, not on human religions.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa you say you walk on Jesus holy steps? why lie to yourself.. you dont walk at jesus steps, muslims do.. you walk on paul steps.. who jesus knew not.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 I love you brother. What can I say? You are just making statements without any reference.
Tell me, how I am not following the holy steps of Jesus but following Paul?
Did you get baptized as Jesus commanded?
Do you believe that Jesus is Lord?
Do you believe that Jesus came from heaven?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa thank for loving me brother.. :-)
You eat swine, and drinks wine.. Jesus never did.. u were not circumsized, Jesus did..
baptized?.. we wash ourself.. everyday before prayers..
We believe in Jesus.. the Prophets of Allah.
you want reference? its in your hands.. your bible.. look for the signs of Jesus.
Paul teaches things that jesus never taught..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Friend, I do not eat SWINE and DO NOT drink wine. Where does Jesus say do not eat swine?
Jesus commanded BAPTISM. Baptism is not washing. Baptism is to join Christ. There is only ONE baptism. This represent dying of the sinful old man and coming out of the water as a new person in Jesus to lead a holy life.
Tell me, what did Paul teach which is against the teaching of Jesus?
Rom 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil.
This is the teaching of Jesus as sent thru Paul.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa you dont eat swine? really? what denomination of Christian are you? Seventh Day Advantist?
He does not eat swine by saying.. He did not eat.. He was A JEW.. he practice the LAW. Including the prohibition to EAT SWINE.. There is a saying in the bible
." For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished "
What part of it you do not understand.. ?
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa what paul write, is a letter.. to someone.. but not a revelation.. it is his own words, although i agree most of it are aligned with what Jesus said, being nice, helping people, pray to God.. etc, etc.. but its not a revelation.. not a scripture, its not THE GOSPEL..
The Gospel were only with Jesus.. THE CHRIST.. not paul.
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa the Father.. called by JESUS is not THE FARTHER like fleshly FARTHER.. you are the one who think fleshly whe you hear the word SON of GOD.. i dont..
In YOUR BIBLE.. its says.. BEGOTTEN not MADE.. what does BEGOTTEN means? I DARE YOU TO BRING A DICTIONARY, which says.. beggotten is not fleshly..
BRING YOUR PROOF my dear friend.. TELL YOUR SELF THAT..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Beggotten means not in the literal sense. You got it wrong as Muhammad did.
Same way, the term Son of God. It is not in the literal sense. Muhammad got it wrong.
Son is from the Father. Son is the one who was sent to redeem you from your sins.
As Father is God, the Son is God too. If the Son is just a human, then the Father is just a human too. Did you get it?
Is the Father God?
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago
@truetruthusa if it not in the literal sense.. it must be in the not literal sense.. which is NONSENSE.. cause u say begotten, but its not literal.. but give no answer..
even your priest/pastor could not answer you..
kiLuL76 2 weeks ago
@kiLuL76 Quran says son of road. Does this mean Road married someone and produced a son?
Begotten means Jesus is begotten of the Father. Means they have Father and Son relation and As Father is God, Son is God too.
truetruthusa 2 weeks ago