And I LOVE how johnson fans talk a big game about him beating jeffries, WHO WAS 100LBS OVERWEIGHT AND RETIRED FOR 6 YEARS, in his hay day, c'mon johnson would have lossed, don't be ignorant. I am so sick of niggers, and I have been curtailed to these views by niggers themselves. DEMPSEY ALL DAY NIGGERS
Okay, so first off, history showed Johnson acted like a nigger, even back then. He had no class, which factors into being a great fighter. Secondly, Blacks always want to think they're the best fighter,let me tell you that I fought 7 black kids in my hs, and k'o'd 5 of em. I'm not a giant either. There were good black fighters, but get it straight, the best ones were white, and political correctness allows them to find their way to top spots in rankings. Johnson? Dempsey vs johnson= ko for demp
Dude, this is first time I have seen someone say Jack Johnson is not good enough even to be in the top ten. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you haven't watched Johnson's matches, outside of perhaps a few clips on youtube. I have never, I mean NEVER, seen anyone dominate his opponents the way he did. He was invincible. It always looked as if Superman was fighting frail midgets. Just watch his matches. I am sure your opinion will change.
@adiladil78 but i mean his record wasent that great i know he held the tittle for 7 years and was the first black champion but what makes him better than jack dempsey or larry holmes or even klitschko i see people all the time say he was top ten all time....
Records don't tell you the whole story. Just imagine if Holmes had punished all his opponents like he did Ali or if Dempsey had mauled all his opponents like he did Willard; or if Foreman had crushed everyone like he did Frazier; that's the difference between Johnson and the others. If he were white, he would have been made into a god, but sadly, racism was rife in those days.
Johnson was like the young Kasparov; he didn't just beat people at chess, he made them look silly.
@adiladil78 And also Johnson had a crazy long career! I think Muhammad Ali was the greatest fighter of all time in his prime, but Johnson held himself together and stayed competitive for much longer than Ali did. And its not like Johnson fought nobodies in his career; he beat the likes of Burns, Fitzsimmons, Jeanette, McVey, Langford, Ketchel, and was the only man to defeat James J Jeffries. He also would have beaten Willard if this fight only gone for 12 rounds like they do today.
Johnson didn't throw to fight. People say he wasn't out cold because he held his hand up, but since when do you need to be unconscious? Johnson lost his two front teeth with that last blow, as admitted by him. Johnson was 37, Willard 35. Neither was in their best shape. The heat also had an affect on them both.
Nope, he didn't throw it. Maybe he wanted others (or himself) to believe that he threw it, so that he didn't have to face the fact: He got KO'd by a pretty nasty hook/haymaker to the jaw. Boxers have a thing about not wanting to admit to that kind of knockout; it makes you look like you have a "glass jaw." You're supposed to be able to dish out any kind of abuse to the face that the other guy can deliver. That punch would've put just about anyone's lights out.
Clean knockout. Willard actually knocked out Johnson two front teeth. This was according to Johnson himself. Likely Johnson's pride and ego led to his supposed
confession later. No shame, he was 37, not in great shape, and took his best shot
at Willard early. Actually dominated early. Got tired in the heat and lost. Plain and
Clean knockout. Willard actually knocked out Johnson two front teeth. This was according to Johnson himself. Likely Johnson's pride and ego lead to his supposed
confession later. No shame, he was 37, not in great shape, and took his best shot
Well, at least Johnson lost to a true heavyweight in this match. Very few of his opponents weighed over 180 pounds, and many of them were middleweights.
jack admitted that he threw the fight...tired of all the shit that was going on in his life....they also gave him an extra 25,oooin silver dollars...his wife would wave her hat to signal jack that she had the extra money he took a dive ....he shaded his eyes in the round he went down....
You are a 100% CORRECT! All thease fools that are commenting that this was a LEGIT win for Willard are idiots! Jack Johnson GREATEST boxer ever! I love how in the videos of him boxing he use to laugh at all the fighters, also he would on purpose let the fights go deep so there was more money to be made when showed in theaters.
@masterdelrap yes he did he held the "coloured version of the heavyweight title" where he could only fight black people. Then eventually he was allowed to fight white champions.
@masterdelrap are you mad? The boxers from those days were real hardened men. I support them but neither Klitschko brother would last in the ring back in those days.
@masterdelrap 2 different sports. All things equal, boxer wins in a ring, mma fighter wins in a cage. Simple.
Comparing two different sports is pointless. Example, do you really think Velasquez would have a prayer in a conventional boxing match against and of the Klitscho brothers? Answer is no. Would either Klitscho brother beat Velasquez in a cage figting MMA? Answer is no.
What do you mean, "did he throw the fight"? He said initially he did, then later admitted he did not. Just like Jeffries did, and we know he didn't throw that fight. Johnson was desperately tired and took a tough shot, and that's all she wrote.
my great-grandfather's mother was Jess Willard's sister
and what a beating he took against jack dempsey, quite an iron jaw that man had to withstand that many punches to the face. knock out and all still one tough SOB.
also for fun: Jack Willard was the tallest heavy weight champion for 89 years!
1915 - 2004 only 3 years longer than his life (he died at age 86)
@csyzr First of all, that is very cool to be a relation of his. Secondly that iron jaw was broken in 6 places in the first round...along with broken nose, broken ribs, cheekbone shattered in 12 places and hearing loss to one ear. To then go 2 more rounds was one of the most courageous things Ive ever seen. Nothing bad can be said about Willard's performance other than simply losing the fight...but look who he lost it to!! Jess Willard was a great in my book.
Willard won the fight fairly. Johnson, like most negroes, was too arrogant and prideful to admit defeat. Thus he spread the lie that he threw the fight. Johnson dodged real competition as much as anyone from that era. He won the championship fairly, he was a good fighter and champion, and he lost the championship fairly.
Johnson let all that high living overrule him...happenes with all great fighters...they didn't have ring judges back then so for Johnson a early round knockout was his only option...plus remember his own government was trying to railroad him for violating the newly created Mann Act..
Willard clocked him. The sad part was Jack Johnson went on to fight until 1932 when he was well into his 50s. Almost every boxers end as tragedies--Tyson, Ali, Louis, Johnson, Sugar Ray.
@afflictionFTW , @tenren100 , he no longer had to fight blacks because he beat them all, just like he beat everyone in that era. yeah he was arrogant and showed very little class....but i suppose some people consider him to be a hero of some sort because he was able to overcome the heavy racism in a time that was little after slavery had been abolished. he was also the first black heavyweight champion of the world ever.
Jack Johnson might be the greatest heavy weight of all time. Totally in awe of the man. He lived the way he wanted to, not by what black's or white's wanted. He also was a self educated man.... Spoke fluent French, read constantly (usually classics) and traveled abroad... Not your run of the mill person by any standards.
@MrBuster128 Well yes and no... On Marciano being the greatest. You need to read "Rocky Marciano" by Sullivan. Its a great read and sheds a lot of light on the fight game during that era... read it and then tell me if Marciano is the greatest.
@MrBuster128 undefeated does not necessarily mean the best, Marciano was a small heavyweight. Look up Jim Jeffries in his prime, he would have taken Marciano and he was undefeated too...till the fight with Johnson after a 6 year lay off at 35. No doubt Marciano was a great heavyweight, Johnson and Jeffries were much bigger than Marciano and more athletic.
@hazmat1000 But that's just it...no one beat him...all the other heavy weights no matter how big...all got beat at least once. The size argument is weak anyway...if size determined who wins the there would be now need to fight just take measurements and weigh in. Sorry, faulty logic. I've won 22 fights all were bigger than me, but one and he gave me the toughest fight of the 22.
@MrBuster128 I agree a size argument is weak....unless the bigger fighter is more athletic and has equal will...Jeffries was that. They were both know for their toughness. If you pit 2 fighters together with equal will, but one is bigger and more athletic, the outcome will more than likely be for the bigger opponent.
Rocky was the only smart one to retire and stay retired...had he fought at 35-37 with a very good young fighter, his outcome would have probably been the same.
Johnson clearly wasn't knocked out here, just out of shape and uninspired. Too bad, he should have lost it to a better man than Jess Willard. He seemed like a big goof splash-in-the-pan type. It's particularly funny how all the white people celebrated in the ring after he won as if they achieved anything whatsoever. Eh, such is life. Johnson was an interesting characer.
Johnson clearly wasn't knocked out here, just out of shape and uninspired. Too bad, he should have lost it to a better man than Jess Willard. He seemed like a big goof splash-in-the-pan type. It's particularly funny how all the white people celebrated in the ring after he won as if that achieved anything whatsoever. Eh, such is life. Johnson was an interesting characer.
@MrBuster128 Well he did beat all the top contenders up to this point. His personality was little pompous, but a goof he wasn't. His fighting style was pretty smart. The only thing I didn't like was that when he was champion he refused to fight other black challengers, even though they were credible opponents.
@reg5381 Yeah I know all that. What I'm saying is at this point (in the 26th round) he just gave it up. And yeah, BECAUSE Willard was the younger in-shape fighter. Johnson tired by the 10th. But before that he was picking him apart like every other opponent. So yeah, he it is a tko nontheless. But Willard wasn't anything special, history judged that.
@hdmf i might have got the slavery bit totally wrong, i don't know where i got that from? my dad has just told me that wasn't the case anyway, but he was in a situation where that did actually happen. The white folks used to get him and other black guys and make them fight with bags over there heads for there own amusement.
really?...constantly bashing blacks, describing black women as "ugly and primate looking" meanwhile he married white women, hanging around whites, training with whites. defending his title against whites.
..if that isn't an uncle tom then what the hell is it..
Once your "hero" moved up in the world, he forgot about his origins.
He no longer had to fight negro's...he no longer had to live among them.
@AfflictionFTW He wasn't an uncle tom. An uncle tom is when you go against your own race to worship a different race. He bashed on blacks but didn't hinir whites either, He was selfish. I see where you are coming from though.
I don't get how anyone can hate Johnson, or even complain about his humiliation of white boxers. White man shat on Afro-Americans. They lynched them, they enslaved them, they treated them like sub-humans and took away their dignity. I repeat, who could complain about the fact that he gave a good drubbing to a white boxer and enjoyed it?
Everyone gives Willard a hard time because Jack Dempsey destroyed him and they just assume it must be true that Johnson threw this fight. It's all bullshit. Dempsey levelled Willard because he was one of the all time greats and one of the hardest punchers ever. Willard, meanwhile, was a giant, incredibly well-built man easily capable of delivering knock-out power. Before he got his title shot against Johnson he killed a man with an uppercut. That's power to be feared.
@PowerFlash82196 Willard most certainly did kill. An uppercut landed on poor John "Bull" Young in 1913 drove the base of his skull into his brain and a day later he was dead.
Look, Johnson was a great fighter, and no one's going to deny that, but the theories that he threw this fight are, quite simply, riduculous. They are born entirely of political correctness and liberal sentiment. It's a Chris Matthews/ Keith Olberman-ism, if you will. If you're going to throw a fight, you do it in the 1st round, a la Bruce Seldon and Sonny Liston, not the 26th round. Jess Willard was 6' 6 1/2'', as tall as the Klitschkos (sp), and the fact is, he simply defeated Johnson.
johnson's mother was seriously ill in the US and he was desperate to see her again and come out of exile. He made a deal with the authorities to throw the fight and hand back the title to the establishment. The reason it took him 26 rounds to lie down was bcos he was waiting for his girlfriend at ringside to give him the signal that she had received the money from the gov't contacts.
No way he threw it. An aging champion out in the blistering sun for many rounds, unable to put away his limited but game younger opponent. If it was a bout fought under modern rules Johnson wins a shut-out, but that wasn't the case back then and Willard simply outlasted, wore down and eventually decked Johnson for the win. It's legit.
Shielding your eyes from the sun is not a valid excuse even if you are knocked out. Knocked out fighters do odd things on the canvas. When Mike Tyson knocked out Cliffoed Entienne he took out his mouth piece.
lol....he fought plenty of guys his own size. he just met his match thats all. remember he was 37 years old and had fought more then 70 times. are you telling me that all 70 were smaller then him?
Nearly all Johnson's title defenses were against little guys or journeymen, none of whom were much good. He got to McVea, Jeannette and Langford when they were novices but would never rematch them when they were older and more experienced.
@FlaviusConstantius thats because they all looked shit against johnson. he fought many great fighters. its true that he fought alot of smaller and less talented fighters while he was champ but thats only cos he had beaten everyone one eles. he had fought all the best fighters while he was coming up, so he had the right to fight anyone he liked while he was champ. its not like he was ducking any great fighters.
Jeannette, McVea and Langford might beg to differ there. Langford chased Johnson all around the world but could never get him into the ring. Meanwhile Jack busied himself with second raters like Fireman Jim Flynn and Al Kaufmann.
The only greats Johnson beat were novices McVea and Jeannette, little fellas like Ketchel, an ancient Bob Fitz and a post-6-year retirement Jeffries.
@slimithy12 same arguement is levied against fedor emilinako; when the fact is that he already destoryed all other opposition so who is there left to fight
Well I don't know why he waited until the 26th round to throw the fight. Basically he just got hit in the face and fell. What this video doesn't show are the amount of punches to the body in earlier rounds.
PLEASE!! u saw how skinny that white boy looked compared to jack Johnson..I seen Jack Johnson throw boxers on the floor and he was just playing with them..Of course he threw the fight!
I disagree. Johnson was a man among boys. He is credited with inventing the T-Stance, which gave him incredible balance and power. He was arrogant and inflamatory, like Muhammad Ali, but he was also simply that good....
I truly believe that Jack Johnson threw the fight in order to come back to the states.That was the deal that was made.When he returned to the states they double crossed him and locked him up anyway.That was when he admitted that he threw the fight.He put his gloves over his eyes to shield himself from the sun.
mega--you have to admit that yt removed my original post, right? it isn't there anymore, same as george washington carver's patent pendings for his inventions, yt just has a way of making us poor black men "disappear" under their rule. We got a half black lackey in the white house, what a tool of the white man. I aint sayin things would be so great with us blacks in charge, I just say let us take control of our own. You take you neighborhood, we take ourin. And we get along then.
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George Washington Carver invented boxing you racist pricks. And Jack Johnson was the disciple of Carver, employing every move Carver invented, bringing the white man to his knees, along with many, many white women, if you know what I mean, and I think you do--wink wink. You honky faggots need to acknowledge the fact that Jack Johnson's DNA is probably recombinant in all of your white asses--statistics would prove that he did your white mammie, you whining white bastards.
TheMilitantblackman are you kidding me ? Boxing was invented by the Anglo-saxons ( Great Britain and USA ) keyword bare nuckle boxing!!!!!!! Johnson was a joke , Jess Willard was a true fighter. Johnson was a evil bastard and he is in the hell right know!!!!!
@marcxopoco He wanted to go home to see his mother.That was the deal,throw the fight and you can go home.But they still aressted him.Put him in jail for two years for taking his white wife across state lines.
@haris000000 I don't see how, why wait until the 26th and besides his reaction with the hands going up is a common one among people getting knocked out. Looked to me like a good punch that rocked him. Don't matter that was not a prime Johnson...just like when Johnson beat Jeffries in 1910 after a 6 year lay off.
maybe he wanted to prove smthin by waiting till the 26 save face perhaps anyways those eyes going up to cover his eyes almost immidiatly when he falls seems suspicious to me(i dont really know much about jackjohnson i only watched a documentary about him on espn there it said that he told someone he threw the fight
Right after the fight Johnson said the better man won, it was later on that he changed his mind like most fighters do. Lots of other fighters have done that...first saying they were beat by the better man, then later on they were "doped" "Paid to take a dive" you name it.
Papa Jack was trying to get back in the spotlight after he lost the title. He offered to train Joe Louis. Wanted to fight Dempsey for the title, made appearances at boxing matches etc. He went on record saying how to beat Louis after he was turned away. JJ always loved the spotlight and had the charisma to shine in it.
@haris000000 as far as JJ taking a dive, that slow mo shows to me he was rocked, his head snapped back when Willard found his mark and there is no way a man could fake that kind of movement...had to be the real deal IMO.
if willard's knockout is legit that makes dempsey look pretty goddamn impressive. You can never make direct second hand comparisons like that, but jack johnson was a pretty damn good champion and dempsey KILLED willard.
it's hard to say. I agree willard didn't look too good when he fought dempsey, but supposedly johnson still had enough ability to toy with luis firpo in sparring a few years later. Ironically, dempsey had some trouble with firpo (though he ultimately whooped him). You also can't tell when a guy shows up prepared for a fight and when he doesn't. I'm a huge dempsey fan, and from what I've read and watched I'm convinced he was a total monster for 2 or 3 years and a true legend.
No doubt Dempsey was a holy terror during that span!! Dempsey was as an exciting fighter as their ever was with his style. Johnson was not near as much fun to watch thats for sure.
Damn i dont think these old boxers were human i mean 26 rounds !!!!!!!! And if u c jess willard vs Dempsey teeth were knocked out !!!!! I guess they dont make em like they use to
Im one of the biggest Jack Johnson fans. I have read Unforgivable Blackness, and a book told by Jack Johnson himself.
After lots of studying about this great American icon and hero, it is my personal opinion that Jack Johnson lost fair and square. The complexities behind the fact that he fell are too much to be able to come up with a distinct answer/reason why he lost. But had the fight been anywhere shorter than 25 rounds, Johnson would have won.
I can't imagine why anyone would consider Johnson a "hero." He was a lout and the precise opposite of a gentleman. In the Tommy Burns fight, he propped up his collapsing opponent so he could hit him further, rather than letting Burns take a count. Johnson was utter scum.
hahaha you must be Mr. Tommy Burns grandson in the flesh! When you go to hell, tell Mr. Tommy that America is happy he got his ass beat by the great Jack Johnson.
Tommy shouldn't have been such a prick, and maybe Johnson would have went easier on him. You can tell him that too
@TenRen100 he was more talented then any fighter at the time (even the white fighters oh my!) sorry but the blatant racism he had to battle throughout his career. Absolutly he was a hero for black fighters to this very day
@AfflictionFTW Fuck you. Okay. Johnson was a little mean. but he broke the barrier for blacks. He is a hero. He wanted burns to pay and burns deserved that humiliation because all burns did was call johnson a nigger and refused to fight Johnson because he didn't want to give a black man a title. Okay I was wrong to say fuck you. sorry for saying that. Watch the documentary. Its called Unforgiveable Blackness: the rise and fall of Jack Johnnson.
"I will defend my title against all comers, none barred. By this I mean white, black, Mexican, Indian, or any other nationality. I propose to be the champion of the world, not the white, or the Canadian, or the American. If I am not the best man in the heavyweight division, I don't want the title."
@crowley0312 dnt fuckinq call me retarded......Ive never even seen thiss vid......I just got this account actually last week so this was probably to the old dbz powerflash but this is my account so Idk wut this whole thing was about sooooo............
@AfflictionFTW He was a good boxer but no hero. Sorry, i don't see any boxer as a "hero" There are real heroes out there but not in the ring-just fighters
@TenRen100 how dare you say that , he did everything his own way dispite the threat of assasination from nearly everywhere he went , he was crossing so many lines back then as the first black champion , he gave hope to the so called "free" black people of america
@TenRen100 Fuck you. Okay. Johnson was a little mean. but he broke the barrier for blacks. He is a hero. He wanted burns to pay and burns deserved that humiliation because all burns did was call johnson a nigger and refused to fight Johnson because he didn't want to give a black man a title. Okay I was wrong to say fuck you. sorry for saying that. Watch the documentary. Its called Unforgiveable Blackness: the rise and fall of Jack Johnnson.
@TenRen100 try being Jack Johnson at the turn of the century and see if you would talk that bullshit. If you cant understand Black Jack taking out a little frustration on his tormenter( sick white fucks like yourself) then I should not even waste my words on your sorry ass and you should quit commenting on things you have zero knowledge about,and go back to fuckin your sister !you hairy ,raw meat eating cave dwelling savage.I hope you die soon-horrifically that is!
I have watched this knockdown at least half a hundred times, and lately whn I watch it, I too believe he took the dive. I don't think that right hand was powerful enough to drop him. It shook him yes, but it seems like him falling was an act he did himself.
The original footage shows Johnson's legs going out from bent to straight mid way through the count. So the "kept my legs up because the canvas was hot" excuse is a farce. And his arms just seemed to be waving around in that daze that can occur when a fighter is in cuckoo land. I've seen KO'ed fighters on the canvas still throwing punches. Willard's shot was a good one, caught a 37yo champ who had just gone 25 rounds in the blazing sun flush. No excuses.
When asked if he thought Johnson took a dive Willard said "If he took a dive I wish he hadnt waited till round 26 to do it, it was hotter than hell out there!" Its true, if you were going to take a dive you wouldnt fight 26 rounds in the blazing sun. Johnson was just worn down by someone younger and fitter
@rikardopolis Yeah but remember, Johnson had been boxing nearly 20 years, wheras Willard didn't put on a glove till he was 29, so although only 3 years older Johnson had a lot more wear and tear, and wasn't in good shape for this fight.
And I LOVE how johnson fans talk a big game about him beating jeffries, WHO WAS 100LBS OVERWEIGHT AND RETIRED FOR 6 YEARS, in his hay day, c'mon johnson would have lossed, don't be ignorant. I am so sick of niggers, and I have been curtailed to these views by niggers themselves. DEMPSEY ALL DAY NIGGERS
BlinkBoyBrad 2 weeks ago
@BlinkBoyBrad u r just a hater not a boxing fan be gone
B04Jordan 1 week ago
Okay, so first off, history showed Johnson acted like a nigger, even back then. He had no class, which factors into being a great fighter. Secondly, Blacks always want to think they're the best fighter,let me tell you that I fought 7 black kids in my hs, and k'o'd 5 of em. I'm not a giant either. There were good black fighters, but get it straight, the best ones were white, and political correctness allows them to find their way to top spots in rankings. Johnson? Dempsey vs johnson= ko for demp
BlinkBoyBrad 2 weeks ago
This was like somewhere in the 20-30th round right?And it had like 50 rounds right?If that is true that is fucking insane
breakdancerQ 2 weeks ago
WHITE POWER!!!
dirtyscrotumpuncher2 1 month ago
why do people think jack johnson was a top 10 heavyweight he never did shit?
malcolmscotty1 3 months ago
@malcolmscotty1
Dude, this is first time I have seen someone say Jack Johnson is not good enough even to be in the top ten. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you haven't watched Johnson's matches, outside of perhaps a few clips on youtube. I have never, I mean NEVER, seen anyone dominate his opponents the way he did. He was invincible. It always looked as if Superman was fighting frail midgets. Just watch his matches. I am sure your opinion will change.
adiladil78 3 months ago
@adiladil78 but i mean his record wasent that great i know he held the tittle for 7 years and was the first black champion but what makes him better than jack dempsey or larry holmes or even klitschko i see people all the time say he was top ten all time....
malcolmscotty1 3 months ago
@malcolmscotty1
Records don't tell you the whole story. Just imagine if Holmes had punished all his opponents like he did Ali or if Dempsey had mauled all his opponents like he did Willard; or if Foreman had crushed everyone like he did Frazier; that's the difference between Johnson and the others. If he were white, he would have been made into a god, but sadly, racism was rife in those days.
Johnson was like the young Kasparov; he didn't just beat people at chess, he made them look silly.
adiladil78 3 months ago
@adiladil78 And also Johnson had a crazy long career! I think Muhammad Ali was the greatest fighter of all time in his prime, but Johnson held himself together and stayed competitive for much longer than Ali did. And its not like Johnson fought nobodies in his career; he beat the likes of Burns, Fitzsimmons, Jeanette, McVey, Langford, Ketchel, and was the only man to defeat James J Jeffries. He also would have beaten Willard if this fight only gone for 12 rounds like they do today.
93stormer 2 months ago
Johnson didn't throw to fight. People say he wasn't out cold because he held his hand up, but since when do you need to be unconscious? Johnson lost his two front teeth with that last blow, as admitted by him. Johnson was 37, Willard 35. Neither was in their best shape. The heat also had an affect on them both.
crowley0312 3 months ago 7
Am glad someone finally knocked out Jack Johnson!
erod707 3 months ago
26 rounds of fighting........dang
RoosterRuley 4 months ago
that was a kill shot to the jaw.
nwo4lifedta316 4 months ago
lol Jack dominated him over 20 rounds before getting KO'd. They didn't ahve a limit of how long a fight could be back then
SmLXXX 4 months ago
@SmLXXX And how do you figure this?
IronMikeVideos 4 months ago
Jack Johnson was an all time great boxer. R I P Champ
JohnRagoon 5 months ago
@AfflictionFTW But why must "race" have anything to do with "orgins"?
JayNohh 5 months ago
Nope, he didn't throw it. Maybe he wanted others (or himself) to believe that he threw it, so that he didn't have to face the fact: He got KO'd by a pretty nasty hook/haymaker to the jaw. Boxers have a thing about not wanting to admit to that kind of knockout; it makes you look like you have a "glass jaw." You're supposed to be able to dish out any kind of abuse to the face that the other guy can deliver. That punch would've put just about anyone's lights out.
sc0ner 5 months ago
The film removes all suspicion that Johnson threw the fight. He was knocked out, pure and simple. He was a great fighter but his time was up.
DejaVu13Z 6 months ago
Clean knockout. Willard actually knocked out Johnson two front teeth. This was according to Johnson himself. Likely Johnson's pride and ego led to his supposed
confession later. No shame, he was 37, not in great shape, and took his best shot
at Willard early. Actually dominated early. Got tired in the heat and lost. Plain and
simple.
andrewr62 6 months ago 4
Clean knockout. Willard actually knocked out Johnson two front teeth. This was according to Johnson himself. Likely Johnson's pride and ego lead to his supposed
confession later. No shame, he was 37, not in great shape, and took his best shot
at Willard early.
andrewr62 6 months ago
Press 1 for a helluva haymaker.
AnthonyRA2014 6 months ago
Jack Johnson let Willard won on purpose so he can go back to the united states in reality there was no way that redneck would have won
MRPric3LEss 7 months ago
Yea Johnson got caught with right hand only because he wanted to.
PREZ150 7 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
rileydd08 8 months ago
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Well, at least Johnson lost to a true heavyweight in this match. Very few of his opponents weighed over 180 pounds, and many of them were middleweights.
Check his record before you start talking shit.
moojeed 8 months ago
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TAKE THAT NIGGER!
DogeatersandNiggers 9 months ago 3
jack admitted that he threw the fight...tired of all the shit that was going on in his life....they also gave him an extra 25,oooin silver dollars...his wife would wave her hat to signal jack that she had the extra money he took a dive ....he shaded his eyes in the round he went down....
09bnunez 9 months ago 3
@09bnunez
You are a 100% CORRECT! All thease fools that are commenting that this was a LEGIT win for Willard are idiots! Jack Johnson GREATEST boxer ever! I love how in the videos of him boxing he use to laugh at all the fighters, also he would on purpose let the fights go deep so there was more money to be made when showed in theaters.
amazindan 7 months ago
WHY JACK JOHNSON NEVER FOUGHT ANOTHER BLACK FIGHTER WAS HE SCARED OR A PUSS Y TO LOSE TO HIS OWN RACE
masterdelrap 10 months ago
@masterdelrap yes he did he held the "coloured version of the heavyweight title" where he could only fight black people. Then eventually he was allowed to fight white champions.
HomeOfBritishBoxing 7 months ago
@HomeOfBritishBoxing klitchko would knock the fu ck out johnshon
masterdelrap 7 months ago
@masterdelrap are you mad? The boxers from those days were real hardened men. I support them but neither Klitschko brother would last in the ring back in those days.
CoffeeBeatsTea 6 months ago
@CoffeeBeatsTea UFC MEXICAN CAIN VELASQUEZ WOULD DESTROY JACK JOHNSON MONKEY BOY
masterdelrap 6 months ago
@masterdelrap if they fought under mma rules yes he would but not in a straight up boxing match
CoffeeBeatsTea 6 months ago
@CoffeeBeatsTea look man CAIN VELASQUEZ IS MORE MONSTER THAN JACK JOHNSON
masterdelrap 6 months ago
@masterdelrap the fact that you're a fan of the UFC says it all. Fuck off and go watch men hug each other
CoffeeBeatsTea 6 months ago
@masterdelrap 2 different sports. All things equal, boxer wins in a ring, mma fighter wins in a cage. Simple.
Comparing two different sports is pointless. Example, do you really think Velasquez would have a prayer in a conventional boxing match against and of the Klitscho brothers? Answer is no. Would either Klitscho brother beat Velasquez in a cage figting MMA? Answer is no.
andrewr62 5 months ago
@HomeOfBritishBoxing punk
masterdelrap 6 months ago
What do you mean, "did he throw the fight"? He said initially he did, then later admitted he did not. Just like Jeffries did, and we know he didn't throw that fight. Johnson was desperately tired and took a tough shot, and that's all she wrote.
kenfo0 10 months ago
how coo I get to watch this!
Jack Willard is my great-great-great uncle!
my great-grandfather's mother was Jess Willard's sister
and what a beating he took against jack dempsey, quite an iron jaw that man had to withstand that many punches to the face. knock out and all still one tough SOB.
also for fun: Jack Willard was the tallest heavy weight champion for 89 years!
1915 - 2004 only 3 years longer than his life (he died at age 86)
csyzr 10 months ago
@csyzr First of all, that is very cool to be a relation of his. Secondly that iron jaw was broken in 6 places in the first round...along with broken nose, broken ribs, cheekbone shattered in 12 places and hearing loss to one ear. To then go 2 more rounds was one of the most courageous things Ive ever seen. Nothing bad can be said about Willard's performance other than simply losing the fight...but look who he lost it to!! Jess Willard was a great in my book.
N1k1mon 9 months ago
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csyzr 10 months ago
Glad that guy got knocked out by a nobody...after pride comes the fall
MrBuster128 11 months ago
The True story: Willard Won, that´s all!
Lanutriatraviesa 1 year ago
who cares, it's not like we will ever know anyways if he threw the fight or not.
sk8forlife90 1 year ago
He got koed by a big right straight,simple as that,but then big jess came across Jack Dempsey,and we all know how that ended.
dvdmsch 1 year ago
Willard won the fight fairly. Johnson, like most negroes, was too arrogant and prideful to admit defeat. Thus he spread the lie that he threw the fight. Johnson dodged real competition as much as anyone from that era. He won the championship fairly, he was a good fighter and champion, and he lost the championship fairly.
TraderJack641 1 year ago
@TraderJack641 True he beat a Jack and got obliterated by another Jack.
Ant45078 1 year ago
good nigger lay down
cmiller8789 1 year ago
@cmiller8789 but jack johnson held the title for five years beating many ''great white hopes''
actoman1 11 months ago
Johnson let all that high living overrule him...happenes with all great fighters...they didn't have ring judges back then so for Johnson a early round knockout was his only option...plus remember his own government was trying to railroad him for violating the newly created Mann Act..
d820m 1 year ago
Willard clocked him. The sad part was Jack Johnson went on to fight until 1932 when he was well into his 50s. Almost every boxers end as tragedies--Tyson, Ali, Louis, Johnson, Sugar Ray.
KenoisRob 1 year ago
@KenoisRob how did joe louis end up as a tragedy?
BryantFinlay 1 year ago
I wonder if Chris Eubank is the even more pompous reincarnation of Jack Johnson.
Maxshard 1 year ago
@afflictionFTW , @tenren100 , he no longer had to fight blacks because he beat them all, just like he beat everyone in that era. yeah he was arrogant and showed very little class....but i suppose some people consider him to be a hero of some sort because he was able to overcome the heavy racism in a time that was little after slavery had been abolished. he was also the first black heavyweight champion of the world ever.
JRosevelt2010 1 year ago
@dkc4475 either way it was a KO
MrBuster128 1 year ago
Jack Johnson might be the greatest heavy weight of all time. Totally in awe of the man. He lived the way he wanted to, not by what black's or white's wanted. He also was a self educated man.... Spoke fluent French, read constantly (usually classics) and traveled abroad... Not your run of the mill person by any standards.
jadewillow 1 year ago
@jadewillow Sorry, he was not the greatest heavy weight of all time. Rocky Marciano was the only undefeated heavy weight champ.
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@MrBuster128 Well yes and no... On Marciano being the greatest. You need to read "Rocky Marciano" by Sullivan. Its a great read and sheds a lot of light on the fight game during that era... read it and then tell me if Marciano is the greatest.
jadewillow 1 year ago
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doox420 1 year ago
@MrBuster128 undefeated does not necessarily mean the best, Marciano was a small heavyweight. Look up Jim Jeffries in his prime, he would have taken Marciano and he was undefeated too...till the fight with Johnson after a 6 year lay off at 35. No doubt Marciano was a great heavyweight, Johnson and Jeffries were much bigger than Marciano and more athletic.
hazmat1000 11 months ago
@hazmat1000 But that's just it...no one beat him...all the other heavy weights no matter how big...all got beat at least once. The size argument is weak anyway...if size determined who wins the there would be now need to fight just take measurements and weigh in. Sorry, faulty logic. I've won 22 fights all were bigger than me, but one and he gave me the toughest fight of the 22.
MrBuster128 11 months ago
@MrBuster128 I agree a size argument is weak....unless the bigger fighter is more athletic and has equal will...Jeffries was that. They were both know for their toughness. If you pit 2 fighters together with equal will, but one is bigger and more athletic, the outcome will more than likely be for the bigger opponent.
Rocky was the only smart one to retire and stay retired...had he fought at 35-37 with a very good young fighter, his outcome would have probably been the same.
hazmat1000 11 months ago
Jess Willard - the great white dope
5eurocups2005 1 year ago
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Johnson clearly wasn't knocked out here, just out of shape and uninspired. Too bad, he should have lost it to a better man than Jess Willard. He seemed like a big goof splash-in-the-pan type. It's particularly funny how all the white people celebrated in the ring after he won as if they achieved anything whatsoever. Eh, such is life. Johnson was an interesting characer.
mont3818 1 year ago
Johnson clearly wasn't knocked out here, just out of shape and uninspired. Too bad, he should have lost it to a better man than Jess Willard. He seemed like a big goof splash-in-the-pan type. It's particularly funny how all the white people celebrated in the ring after he won as if that achieved anything whatsoever. Eh, such is life. Johnson was an interesting characer.
mont3818 1 year ago
@mont3818 That's the same way i feel about Johnson just a big goof that didn't achieve anything whatsoever
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@MrBuster128 Well he did beat all the top contenders up to this point. His personality was little pompous, but a goof he wasn't. His fighting style was pretty smart. The only thing I didn't like was that when he was champion he refused to fight other black challengers, even though they were credible opponents.
mont3818 1 year ago
@mont3818 if johnson was going to throw the fight, or be uninspired,he would have done it before the 26th round.it was around 100 degrees that day.
reg5381 1 year ago 2
@reg5381 Yeah I know all that. What I'm saying is at this point (in the 26th round) he just gave it up. And yeah, BECAUSE Willard was the younger in-shape fighter. Johnson tired by the 10th. But before that he was picking him apart like every other opponent. So yeah, he it is a tko nontheless. But Willard wasn't anything special, history judged that.
mont3818 1 year ago
@mont3818 Yep, what happened to Johnson here at 37, happened to Jeffries at 35, when he fought Johnson. Same thing goes with Louis against Marciano.
hazmat1000 11 months ago
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5eurocups2005 1 year ago
@5eurocups2005 Uh, Johnson was born in 1878. Slavery was over by then. Nice story though.
hdmf 1 year ago
@hdmf i might have got the slavery bit totally wrong, i don't know where i got that from? my dad has just told me that wasn't the case anyway, but he was in a situation where that did actually happen. The white folks used to get him and other black guys and make them fight with bags over there heads for there own amusement.
5eurocups2005 1 year ago
it looked like a helluva right hand to me.
reg5381 1 year ago
@reg5381 ditto
MrBuster128 1 year ago
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hatemail11 1 year ago
Fuck Jess Willard
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@PowerFlash82196
fuck Jess Willard for what?
For knocking out you're precious uncle tom?..:)
AfflictionFTW 1 year ago
@AfflictionFTW How was he an uncle tom? He didn't worship whites at all. Only use uncle tom when you actually know what it means.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@PowerFlash82196
really?...constantly bashing blacks, describing black women as "ugly and primate looking" meanwhile he married white women, hanging around whites, training with whites. defending his title against whites.
..if that isn't an uncle tom then what the hell is it..
Once your "hero" moved up in the world, he forgot about his origins.
He no longer had to fight negro's...he no longer had to live among them.
AfflictionFTW 1 year ago 13
@AfflictionFTW He wasn't an uncle tom. An uncle tom is when you go against your own race to worship a different race. He bashed on blacks but didn't hinir whites either, He was selfish. I see where you are coming from though.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@AfflictionFTW Could you sendme a link were it talks about these quotes of Johnson? I'm very interested.
doug2bitemore 1 year ago
@AfflictionFTW Forget about the conversation dude. I just leave it alone
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@AfflictionFTW I am 100% agree with you.
AcucarAmargoorBitter 10 months ago
@AfflictionFTW
Did he really say all that?
truebeliever786 9 months ago
@AfflictionFTW this was not prime jonhson, prime jonhson would beat willard for sure.
combatesdeboxeo 1 year ago
I don't get how anyone can hate Johnson, or even complain about his humiliation of white boxers. White man shat on Afro-Americans. They lynched them, they enslaved them, they treated them like sub-humans and took away their dignity. I repeat, who could complain about the fact that he gave a good drubbing to a white boxer and enjoyed it?
nitramgnal 1 year ago
Everyone gives Willard a hard time because Jack Dempsey destroyed him and they just assume it must be true that Johnson threw this fight. It's all bullshit. Dempsey levelled Willard because he was one of the all time greats and one of the hardest punchers ever. Willard, meanwhile, was a giant, incredibly well-built man easily capable of delivering knock-out power. Before he got his title shot against Johnson he killed a man with an uppercut. That's power to be feared.
InTheRainstorm 1 year ago 2
@InTheRainstorm He didn't kill. He almost killed and was careful with his left in fear of killing someone else.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@PowerFlash82196 really? he was afraid of killing someone else? lol
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@PowerFlash82196 Willard most certainly did kill. An uppercut landed on poor John "Bull" Young in 1913 drove the base of his skull into his brain and a day later he was dead.
InTheRainstorm 1 year ago
@InTheRainstorm They did talk about his killer Uppercut
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
26th round and a perfectly timed right hand with 265lbs weight behind it landed flush on an aging johnson's jaw...it's a no brainer.
FEINS1 1 year ago
@FEINS1 Amen!
MrBuster128 1 year ago
Look, Johnson was a great fighter, and no one's going to deny that, but the theories that he threw this fight are, quite simply, riduculous. They are born entirely of political correctness and liberal sentiment. It's a Chris Matthews/ Keith Olberman-ism, if you will. If you're going to throw a fight, you do it in the 1st round, a la Bruce Seldon and Sonny Liston, not the 26th round. Jess Willard was 6' 6 1/2'', as tall as the Klitschkos (sp), and the fact is, he simply defeated Johnson.
groofoot 1 year ago
@groofoot Anyone who studies the life of Johnson knows that he would never throw a fight.
MrBuster128 1 year ago
johnson's mother was seriously ill in the US and he was desperate to see her again and come out of exile. He made a deal with the authorities to throw the fight and hand back the title to the establishment. The reason it took him 26 rounds to lie down was bcos he was waiting for his girlfriend at ringside to give him the signal that she had received the money from the gov't contacts.
dougm1971 1 year ago
No way he threw it. An aging champion out in the blistering sun for many rounds, unable to put away his limited but game younger opponent. If it was a bout fought under modern rules Johnson wins a shut-out, but that wasn't the case back then and Willard simply outlasted, wore down and eventually decked Johnson for the win. It's legit.
Ryushinku 1 year ago
Shielding your eyes from the sun is not a valid excuse even if you are knocked out. Knocked out fighters do odd things on the canvas. When Mike Tyson knocked out Cliffoed Entienne he took out his mouth piece.
capablemachine 1 year ago
some say its on purpose
trig1907 1 year ago
he forgot to eat watermelons before the fight.
kelloggcerealxoxo 1 year ago
@kelloggcerealxoxo idiot
carva9 1 year ago
that's were all his hype came from.
he fought smaller and lighter opponents, on who he could successfully use his size advantage.
But with Willard was another story..
I just can only imagine what would Dempsey made out if him if they would had fought.
JeanFrenchCroissant 1 year ago 3
lol....he fought plenty of guys his own size. he just met his match thats all. remember he was 37 years old and had fought more then 70 times. are you telling me that all 70 were smaller then him?
slimithy12 1 year ago
Nearly all Johnson's title defenses were against little guys or journeymen, none of whom were much good. He got to McVea, Jeannette and Langford when they were novices but would never rematch them when they were older and more experienced.
FlaviusConstantius 1 year ago
@FlaviusConstantius thats because they all looked shit against johnson. he fought many great fighters. its true that he fought alot of smaller and less talented fighters while he was champ but thats only cos he had beaten everyone one eles. he had fought all the best fighters while he was coming up, so he had the right to fight anyone he liked while he was champ. its not like he was ducking any great fighters.
slimithy12 1 year ago
"its not like he was ducking any great fighters"
Jeannette, McVea and Langford might beg to differ there. Langford chased Johnson all around the world but could never get him into the ring. Meanwhile Jack busied himself with second raters like Fireman Jim Flynn and Al Kaufmann.
The only greats Johnson beat were novices McVea and Jeannette, little fellas like Ketchel, an ancient Bob Fitz and a post-6-year retirement Jeffries.
FlaviusConstantius 1 year ago 4
@slimithy12 same arguement is levied against fedor emilinako; when the fact is that he already destoryed all other opposition so who is there left to fight
utubeaccount00 1 year ago
Well I don't know why he waited until the 26th round to throw the fight. Basically he just got hit in the face and fell. What this video doesn't show are the amount of punches to the body in earlier rounds.
capablemachine 1 year ago
Exactly right, Johnson was completely knackered by the time Willard unloaded on him. It was in the blazing heat too
squirehendrix 1 year ago
wtf 26th round thats crazy
aschindler22 1 year ago
PLEASE!! u saw how skinny that white boy looked compared to jack Johnson..I seen Jack Johnson throw boxers on the floor and he was just playing with them..Of course he threw the fight!
freedomland11 1 year ago
of course you're a moron....
if Johnson wanted to drop the fight, he would had made it quicker then the 26th round on hot day in the middle of summer .
The fact is that Johnson never fought someone stronger or as big as him, until Jess Willard came in.
JeanFrenchCroissant 1 year ago
Why da moron? lol, all i know, is that boxing was much more potent back then!!
freedomland11 1 year ago
skinny has nothin to do with fighten bro
aschindler22 1 year ago
Of course he through the fight. He was thinking abouthis poor black brothers and sisters that had to go to work the next day fhe white man.
tbursee 1 year ago
huh?
peabodymister 1 year ago
people overrate him because he was black in a racist time..he was good, but not the best
Matheusss89 2 years ago
@Matheusss89
I disagree. Johnson was a man among boys. He is credited with inventing the T-Stance, which gave him incredible balance and power. He was arrogant and inflamatory, like Muhammad Ali, but he was also simply that good....
edcarlisle85 1 year ago
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Matheusss89 2 years ago
I truly believe that Jack Johnson threw the fight in order to come back to the states.That was the deal that was made.When he returned to the states they double crossed him and locked him up anyway.That was when he admitted that he threw the fight.He put his gloves over his eyes to shield himself from the sun.
datu789 2 years ago
boom boom out went the lights for johnson
beeteep60 2 years ago
mega--you have to admit that yt removed my original post, right? it isn't there anymore, same as george washington carver's patent pendings for his inventions, yt just has a way of making us poor black men "disappear" under their rule. We got a half black lackey in the white house, what a tool of the white man. I aint sayin things would be so great with us blacks in charge, I just say let us take control of our own. You take you neighborhood, we take ourin. And we get along then.
TheMilitantblackman 2 years ago
@ TheMilitantblackman just LOL
Search "Black Rage" on yt.
Mastalink 2 years ago
THE GREAT WHITE HOPE GOES BOOM BB
AlienBusDriver 2 years ago
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George Washington Carver invented boxing you racist pricks. And Jack Johnson was the disciple of Carver, employing every move Carver invented, bringing the white man to his knees, along with many, many white women, if you know what I mean, and I think you do--wink wink. You honky faggots need to acknowledge the fact that Jack Johnson's DNA is probably recombinant in all of your white asses--statistics would prove that he did your white mammie, you whining white bastards.
TheMilitantblackman 2 years ago
TheMilitantblackman are you kidding me ? Boxing was invented by the Anglo-saxons ( Great Britain and USA ) keyword bare nuckle boxing!!!!!!! Johnson was a joke , Jess Willard was a true fighter. Johnson was a evil bastard and he is in the hell right know!!!!!
megasayajinsongoku99 2 years ago
i heard that fight was fixed johnson said the proof is when he coverd his eyes from the bright cuban sun as soon as he fell down any truth to that?
haris000000 2 years ago
The fight was on the level.
If Johnson wanted to take a dive he wouldn't have fought his heart out for 26 rounds in the hot Cuban sun.
marcxopoco 2 years ago 3
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dude johnson said he took the dive i didnt made it up
haris000000 2 years ago
@marcxopoco He wanted to go home to see his mother.That was the deal,throw the fight and you can go home.But they still aressted him.Put him in jail for two years for taking his white wife across state lines.
datu789 2 years ago
@haris000000 I don't see how, why wait until the 26th and besides his reaction with the hands going up is a common one among people getting knocked out. Looked to me like a good punch that rocked him. Don't matter that was not a prime Johnson...just like when Johnson beat Jeffries in 1910 after a 6 year lay off.
hazmat1000 2 years ago
maybe he wanted to prove smthin by waiting till the 26 save face perhaps anyways those eyes going up to cover his eyes almost immidiatly when he falls seems suspicious to me(i dont really know much about jackjohnson i only watched a documentary about him on espn there it said that he told someone he threw the fight
haris000000 2 years ago
Right after the fight Johnson said the better man won, it was later on that he changed his mind like most fighters do. Lots of other fighters have done that...first saying they were beat by the better man, then later on they were "doped" "Paid to take a dive" you name it.
hazmat1000 2 years ago
could be but still my opinion is that it was a dive maybe he got tired of being in a public spotlight in the usa
haris000000 2 years ago
Papa Jack was trying to get back in the spotlight after he lost the title. He offered to train Joe Louis. Wanted to fight Dempsey for the title, made appearances at boxing matches etc. He went on record saying how to beat Louis after he was turned away. JJ always loved the spotlight and had the charisma to shine in it.
hazmat1000 2 years ago
yeah true as i remember it, practicly evry champ in those days had what these chumps lack today charisma
haris000000 2 years ago
@haris000000 as far as JJ taking a dive, that slow mo shows to me he was rocked, his head snapped back when Willard found his mark and there is no way a man could fake that kind of movement...had to be the real deal IMO.
hazmat1000 2 years ago 3
if willard's knockout is legit that makes dempsey look pretty goddamn impressive. You can never make direct second hand comparisons like that, but jack johnson was a pretty damn good champion and dempsey KILLED willard.
tmotleygoldstein 2 years ago
@tmotleygoldstein Johnson was also 37 in this fight....far from his prime. A prime Johnson would have toyed with Willard IMO.
hazmat1000 2 years ago
it's hard to say. I agree willard didn't look too good when he fought dempsey, but supposedly johnson still had enough ability to toy with luis firpo in sparring a few years later. Ironically, dempsey had some trouble with firpo (though he ultimately whooped him). You also can't tell when a guy shows up prepared for a fight and when he doesn't. I'm a huge dempsey fan, and from what I've read and watched I'm convinced he was a total monster for 2 or 3 years and a true legend.
tmotleygoldstein 2 years ago
No doubt Dempsey was a holy terror during that span!! Dempsey was as an exciting fighter as their ever was with his style. Johnson was not near as much fun to watch thats for sure.
hazmat1000 2 years ago
Damn i dont think these old boxers were human i mean 26 rounds !!!!!!!! And if u c jess willard vs Dempsey teeth were knocked out !!!!! I guess they dont make em like they use to
sixfouimpala 2 years ago
If you seen the longer version of the fight,
Johnson was relly taking a beating in rounds 19-25.
The 25th round was pretty bad as he was hurt with the body punchings that nearly bent Johnson over a few times.
Johnson's legs were gone. No dive.
greek1237 2 years ago 5
Im one of the biggest Jack Johnson fans. I have read Unforgivable Blackness, and a book told by Jack Johnson himself.
After lots of studying about this great American icon and hero, it is my personal opinion that Jack Johnson lost fair and square. The complexities behind the fact that he fell are too much to be able to come up with a distinct answer/reason why he lost. But had the fight been anywhere shorter than 25 rounds, Johnson would have won.
reznick8 2 years ago 4
well he was older and not in great shape...no shame in losing for johnson really.
gqmighty 2 years ago 2
exactly....no shame at all
He still comes at #2 in my graetest heavywieghts list
reznick8 2 years ago
I can't imagine why anyone would consider Johnson a "hero." He was a lout and the precise opposite of a gentleman. In the Tommy Burns fight, he propped up his collapsing opponent so he could hit him further, rather than letting Burns take a count. Johnson was utter scum.
TenRen100 2 years ago 6
hahaha you must be Mr. Tommy Burns grandson in the flesh! When you go to hell, tell Mr. Tommy that America is happy he got his ass beat by the great Jack Johnson.
Tommy shouldn't have been such a prick, and maybe Johnson would have went easier on him. You can tell him that too
reznick8 2 years ago
@TenRen100 he did great things....more then boxing...research him, he invented some type of wrench..........in prison!
jay4457 1 year ago
@jay4457 wow, give him a medal he modified a wrench in prison...his mom must be proud
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@TenRen100 he was more talented then any fighter at the time (even the white fighters oh my!) sorry but the blatant racism he had to battle throughout his career. Absolutly he was a hero for black fighters to this very day
utubeaccount00 1 year ago
@TenRen100
lol
The world treated Johnson, and everybody else who was his color like scum.
What he did to those fighters like Tommy Burns was light work in contrast to lynchings
Jack Johnson is an american hero.
reznick8 1 year ago
lol American hero for what?
What did he do to be considered a hero?
Like someone said, he was an utter scum.
Hell you couldn't even call him black hero....
Once he got at the top he forgot his origins, and treated other blacks like sub-humans.
He constantly made fun of blacks calling them "uncle tom" and bashed black women.
american hero for what?
at the end of the day he was an uncle Tom too.
AfflictionFTW 1 year ago
@AfflictionFTW Fuck you. Okay. Johnson was a little mean. but he broke the barrier for blacks. He is a hero. He wanted burns to pay and burns deserved that humiliation because all burns did was call johnson a nigger and refused to fight Johnson because he didn't want to give a black man a title. Okay I was wrong to say fuck you. sorry for saying that. Watch the documentary. Its called Unforgiveable Blackness: the rise and fall of Jack Johnnson.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@PowerFlash82196 Tommy Burns racist? Are you retarded?
"I will defend my title against all comers, none barred. By this I mean white, black, Mexican, Indian, or any other nationality. I propose to be the champion of the world, not the white, or the Canadian, or the American. If I am not the best man in the heavyweight division, I don't want the title."
- Tommy Burns
crowley0312 3 months ago
@crowley0312 dnt fuckinq call me retarded......Ive never even seen thiss vid......I just got this account actually last week so this was probably to the old dbz powerflash but this is my account so Idk wut this whole thing was about sooooo............
PowerFlash82196 2 months ago
@AfflictionFTW He was a good boxer but no hero. Sorry, i don't see any boxer as a "hero" There are real heroes out there but not in the ring-just fighters
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@reznick8 Yup.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@TenRen100 how dare you say that , he did everything his own way dispite the threat of assasination from nearly everywhere he went , he was crossing so many lines back then as the first black champion , he gave hope to the so called "free" black people of america
007HomeBoy 1 year ago
@TenRen100 Fuck you. Okay. Johnson was a little mean. but he broke the barrier for blacks. He is a hero. He wanted burns to pay and burns deserved that humiliation because all burns did was call johnson a nigger and refused to fight Johnson because he didn't want to give a black man a title. Okay I was wrong to say fuck you. sorry for saying that. Watch the documentary. Its called Unforgiveable Blackness: the rise and fall of Jack Johnnson.
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago
@TenRen100 after the things Burns said and the way he acted you would do the same
eslubin 1 year ago
@TenRen100 try being Jack Johnson at the turn of the century and see if you would talk that bullshit. If you cant understand Black Jack taking out a little frustration on his tormenter( sick white fucks like yourself) then I should not even waste my words on your sorry ass and you should quit commenting on things you have zero knowledge about,and go back to fuckin your sister !you hairy ,raw meat eating cave dwelling savage.I hope you die soon-horrifically that is!
rniggemyer 1 year ago
@reznick8 I don't care what anyone says.I believe Jack Johnson.He took the dive to go home to see his mama!!!
datu789 2 years ago
@datu789
I have watched this knockdown at least half a hundred times, and lately whn I watch it, I too believe he took the dive. I don't think that right hand was powerful enough to drop him. It shook him yes, but it seems like him falling was an act he did himself.
reznick8 2 years ago
The original footage shows Johnson's legs going out from bent to straight mid way through the count. So the "kept my legs up because the canvas was hot" excuse is a farce. And his arms just seemed to be waving around in that daze that can occur when a fighter is in cuckoo land. I've seen KO'ed fighters on the canvas still throwing punches. Willard's shot was a good one, caught a 37yo champ who had just gone 25 rounds in the blazing sun flush. No excuses.
brizfightfan 2 years ago 4
When asked if he thought Johnson took a dive Willard said "If he took a dive I wish he hadnt waited till round 26 to do it, it was hotter than hell out there!" Its true, if you were going to take a dive you wouldnt fight 26 rounds in the blazing sun. Johnson was just worn down by someone younger and fitter
chunkyscotty 2 years ago 12
@chunkyscotty bullshit willard was just 3years younger than johnson
rikardopolis 1 year ago
@rikardopolis Yeah but remember, Johnson had been boxing nearly 20 years, wheras Willard didn't put on a glove till he was 29, so although only 3 years older Johnson had a lot more wear and tear, and wasn't in good shape for this fight.
chunkyscotty 1 year ago
@chunkyscotty 27 not 29...well, he new he was fighting, so maybe he should have trained harder and he might not have gotten knocked out
MrBuster128 1 year ago
@chunkyscotty Johnson had more muscle when he was younger. Johnson was just older
PowerFlash82196 1 year ago