There have been dozens of documentaries about Stalin's terror yet none have ever incited Russians as strongly as the Soviet Story. Why is this? Has Edvins Snore, who isn’t even a historian, truly uncovered something real historians had missed? If he did I certainly haven't seen any evidence for it, except comparisons of Nazi/Soviet propaganda posters, the pinnacle of Snore's analysis.
A more likely possibility is that SS is a DISGUSTING film that has little to do with historical facts.
Конечно, заставляет. Просто посмотри в глаза людям, которые это говорят. Бандеровцы, нацисты, коррумпированные постсоветские правительства. Мотив один - выглядеть святыми в глазах людей.
You are right. These guys (Balts) finished with objectionable (including Jews) before war. They did it not worse Hitler. Now they are tryng to smear in this dung of all. It is envy defeated.
Damn, you're spreading your ignorant stupidity over here as well? I laugh my ass off at your ignorant ass and especially since you claim not to be a commie yet defend it at every end.
These guys probably believ that during the time of comunism every Russian was happy and content. There were millions of Russians who were murdered, imprisoned and torture by the communists. Just like in Cuba, only that worse.
My native language - russian. But i'll try answer you. All materials in this film are pulled out from a context. There is no explanation, there is no prehistory. It is looks like propaganda 1920-1939.
It is not propaganda,but soviets authorities did not want the TRUTH about the crimes of war that they made in all the countries,starting with Berlin 1945,Praha,Hungary ,Poland and so on.If we remember all the crimes.......
Many people in the USSR simply lived, worked, grew children and their standard of living grew. They had purpose, there was a confidence of tomorrow's day. About this not all was so poorly. Though now it is difficult for understanding as our sights have changed...
I know it well, I lived there under tovarish Lionid Brezhnev and many people too wanted to live the monotonous live in the Soviet Union, the lack of liberties and freedom. Religious people were very persecuted and their children too. Some big cities have most of the supplies, the rest of the country, like Odessa, Western Ukraine, there were not eggs, nor meat, and even bread.
During soviet times it was impossible to research history, because Communist Party controlled everything and they falsificated history to show that they were "peaceful liberators". All who disagreed, were put to prison or executed.
Its you idiots don't know the REAL history! We liberated you from Nazis, on your fucking lands died many of russians. And you bitches payed us now with this trash like the Soviet Story.
The Soviet Union did not liberate Batic coutries. The Soviet Union occupied and conquerred Baltic coutries against people´s will. The Soviet Union tryed to conquer Finland 1939-40 Winter War, but we really kicked that pathetic Red Army´s ass and Finland frontier was their worst nightmare during WWII. 1940 we secretly allied with Germany and began together plan Barbarossa, which started 1941. It was really joyfull moment for finnish people, frontier from North Finland to the Bakck Sea.
Muhaha! How we occcupied them, you idiot? They joined us by their will! You kicked our asses? Actually, we won in this war, your stupid moron! We took lands which we needed! And when we kicked your Nazi friends, you became our allies in seconds! Hahahaha!
So we Baltics joined ? JOINED So why there was so many attemts of rebelions with in the countries, wich you say "joned"? Like the "Spring of Prague" Russaisn won the war, yes becasue of the supply of other allied forces. Not to mention you Russains had one rifle for two man :D. And in the Winter War, Finland kicked asses still Russia accupied half the country, but they died like 20 times more than fins.
Muhahhaa, you are such idiot moron! First of all nobody was against it, you stupid! They began to resist only at 60 years!!! Second, if not Russia allies would lost, you moron! Russia kicked more than 80% of NAZIS and 2,5 million Japanese army! USA and all allies killed about 20%!!! Third, you are retardedm one rifle to two men is a bullshit! Fourth, Russia kicked Finland in war anyway, we took Karelia! Hahaha, you such retarded asshole! Lol, fuck off western idiot!
They began resist in the 60s becaus all of the inteligents were sent to siberia to die - its war-crime. Lol one rifle for two man is true, everyone knows it :D. Dont forget that USSR lost 10 times more men than fins. - So, you agree that USSR attacked neutral country becaus of the greed of war? [Finland] Is that what "allied" forces do?
How on earth you can call somebody as an idiot when you are letting text like that coming out of your mouth? Allied should have crushed Soviet Union far before Nazis. From where nazis got the knowledge of mass murdering and concentration camps? I can answer, from USSR. USSR and Stalin was the biggest evil in WW2. If you don't believe me watch some neutral historial source. Don't be an idiot and believe those USSR lies. USSR killed more than 20 million people and they started earlier than nazis.
And they continued it after WW2. They did make medical experiment for people; for kids and women as well. These people need to be taken off from the history book as heroes, they are not heroes, just monsters. USSR wasn't a hero of WW2. They were bigger bad than nazis. Thats the cold fact and these brainwashed "russian" youth is still believing that soviet propaganda. Those victory parades of WW2 in Russia are insults for the victims of soviet terror and for those occupied countries.
@vchOstryak Rudolph Rummel and many others have done the estimate of murders by regimes: Mao, Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot is four of the biggest mass murderers in world history. In Rummels conservative estimates communist regimes murdered 148 million people in the 20th century. Nazi Germany murdered 21 million. The Soviet Union murdered more that twice! as many as Nazi Germany. Communist regimes combined murdered more that 7 times as many as Nazi Germany! Look it up!
Just imagine that your goverment will kill 30% of population of you country, and nobody will know about that. Can it be real? Of cause not. Just think about this. So the counts of Rummel is just a dirty lie. It's a pity that you can not think with your own mind and believe to liars. During Stalin's years there were killed 1-2 millions, or smth. like that (0,5-1.0% of population)
@vchOstryak Yes, it's with the Russians holocaust deniers as with the national socialist of the same character. They are morally and intellectually deprived. They claimed they where innocent and that the did not know. But they knew.
Already during the Lenins time, the communist regime murdered 4 million people, in addition to those those killed in the war and in addition to those that died because of the famine under Lenin.
Rummel is not a politician, he is a social scientist.
I have only one sort of advice for you. Just try to find alternative sources of information. Cause history was allways a place for political manipulations. With all respect to your point of view, I can't agree with it.
This is propaganda? Really? Based on what source and what facts have behind your statement? How you can explain all those graves all around of soviet influenced areas? How about those several eye witnesses who are still alive? Mass deportations? Soviet concentration camps? So on and so on. I would say that your saying is nothing more than a result of soviet propaganda. Don't try to deny something that you can't anymore.
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Stop speaking bullshit! Which fucking camps do you mean? We sent there just 30% of political prisoners (many of them were terrorists), the rest were terrible criminals! Mass deportations? What about killing native americans in America? Huh? Its a history nowdays! Whcih graves do you mean, damn it? WTF? Nazis killed them and stop bullshiting here! You can watch even AMERiCAN documentary called The Battle for Russia and they don't speaking such false and etc.
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And who accepted this our russian crimes? Huh? Who? :D Nazi countries like Poland and Batlic states! Muhahaha! And you are fucking Nazi, so fuck off man!!!
You are a damn laugh of yourself. Go and live in your fairytale where russians are heroes and liberators, thats for you. I haven't heard this kind of stupid statements till now. You don't even know what nazi means but still you are a big boy and telling to everyone that they are NAZIS. Shall I laugh? And don't ask those from me, ask that from victims of those crimes. You are just an arrogant brainwashed kid. You can also curse, good for you. You haven't been at school in vain, I was ironic.
Which camps and graves I mean? That means you don't know anything about your own history. I shame you. Graves for example, Katyn, Lviv, Tartu, Riga, Vinnica etc. There was camps in so many places, they were called katorga. From year 1929 to 1953 approximately 20 million people lost their lifes. And still you are denying this.
@tupakki and go live in your dream where NAZIS are gonna rule the world... you think you know what NAZI means ?! it comes from nationalist.. NAZI comes from NAZI Germany - more precise from Nationalist Socialist German Labor Party which ruled Germany and openly spread racism ! you my friend are a racist ! and that's what the movie "soviet story" is all about ! spreading racism towards MODERN russians.. i dont see people hating Germany because of the NAZIS .. strange isnt it ?!
@Cnupoc Why would I? Yes I know exactly what nazi means. It does not come from Nationalist Socialist German Labor Party, it comes from The National Socialist German Workers' Party. It isn't same as nationalist. The member of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) was called a nazi. I am racist if I want some justice on this World? Germany and germans have made everything to clear its past. What have Russia and russians made for clearing their past? I really want to know.
@Cnupoc The difference between Nazi Germany's Holocaust and The Communist Holocaust , is the Nuremberg trials. You Russians have never had anything like that. And in your country denial of the Soviet Communist Holocaust, that in numbers was more that double that of the Nazi Holocaust is socially acceptable and not shunned. And the perpetrators of the Soviet Holocaust is still part of your government! And in this way the day of reckoning will never come to Russia.
@tupakki Can you name 1 Soviet concentration camp? Mind you GULAG was a labor camp. Can you name location of "all those graves"? You people don't know what you are on about. You are the ones who have been brainwashed.
Labour camp IS a concentration camp, you moron, People froze and starved to death there and the conditions were just as bad as in Nazi concentration camps. There were no DEATH camps, were people would be just gassed straight away and then cremated. Instead, they were exploited physically and buried in mass graves. Yeah, definitely a better fate.
You know the story of the "Arbeit macht frei" sign? Learn it. I can give you a hint: Nazis didn't come up with it, they copied the idea.
@luszczi Labor camp is not the concentration camp. Labor camp is a correctional facility, e.g. people actually got released from there when their sentence was served. Concentration camp is the extermination camp e.g. the end of your life. "Arbeit macht frei" was taken from old German book, I don't remember the title. Moron is your dad.
@tupakki The Soviet Story is clearly propaganda, something obvious to anyone who knows the first thing about history (the science not the politically motivated slander as seen in the SS).
Can you guess why this film is free to distribute? Because it was funded entirely by the UEN Group (I suggest you look it up on Wikip). There are numerous falsifications, flat out lies along with deliberate misquotations and clear visual/audio manipulations yet very little facts or even a rough timeline shown.
Russians never occupied the half of Finland. They didn't even occupy areas that they got in peace treaties. Still russian criminals are in finnish land, that crime need to be corrected. If somebody knows history, it can be easily called as a crime. Watch Putin and his gang's comments and you will notice they are still just punch of criminals. In Putin's mind those mass murders of Soviet Union are heroes and Russia is rewriting the history, USSR was a threat and it seems Russia will be as well.
Thats not a liberation. Russia only get half of the country with great losses. So wheres the point attacking. And Baltics did not join, only the ex-USSR-ists say that, all the occupied countries tells a diferent story.
This movie is not Anti Russian, but is story about Sviet politics mainly governed by Lenin and Stalin
grinvaldsjanis 3 months ago
There have been dozens of documentaries about Stalin's terror yet none have ever incited Russians as strongly as the Soviet Story. Why is this? Has Edvins Snore, who isn’t even a historian, truly uncovered something real historians had missed? If he did I certainly haven't seen any evidence for it, except comparisons of Nazi/Soviet propaganda posters, the pinnacle of Snore's analysis.
A more likely possibility is that SS is a DISGUSTING film that has little to do with historical facts.
JD12ish 11 months ago
FUCK AMERICA !!!!!
elizabuzz 1 year ago
Russians are bunch of liers!!! Everything about soviet storu is right! I lost big part of my family because of Soviets!
Almost all of the Russians here dont even know what they are talking about!!
They try te protect the "good" history of russia! '
Just be true so world can forgive you! The world has forgiven to Germany!
Tomszirnis2 1 year ago 2
Латвия, Украина, Польша, Молдова, Грузия и т.д. в один голос говорят о репрессиях, насилии, смертях... неужели это не заставляет задуматься...?!!
kostea13 2 years ago
Конечно, заставляет. Просто посмотри в глаза людям, которые это говорят. Бандеровцы, нацисты, коррумпированные постсоветские правительства. Мотив один - выглядеть святыми в глазах людей.
vchOstryak 2 years ago
how to cover the inecent blood ? big price to pay !
Deskonet 2 years ago
You are right. These guys (Balts) finished with objectionable (including Jews) before war. They did it not worse Hitler. Now they are tryng to smear in this dung of all. It is envy defeated.
wifol1 2 years ago
"These guys (Balts) finished with objectionable (including Jews) before war."
What does that mean? That there were killings of Jews before the war in the Baltic states? Could you give an example in particular?
nurjatulurjus 2 years ago
Hahahahahaha
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
Damn, you're spreading your ignorant stupidity over here as well? I laugh my ass off at your ignorant ass and especially since you claim not to be a commie yet defend it at every end.
HokiesAndDawgs 2 years ago
These guys probably believ that during the time of comunism every Russian was happy and content. There were millions of Russians who were murdered, imprisoned and torture by the communists. Just like in Cuba, only that worse.
CubanodePlacetas 2 years ago
You are right about USSR. But it is cleare that this films is propaganda.
wifol1 2 years ago
What I have seen of the film soviet story is a good piece of what happened there. I do not what piece of it you call propaganda.
CubanodePlacetas 2 years ago
My native language - russian. But i'll try answer you. All materials in this film are pulled out from a context. There is no explanation, there is no prehistory. It is looks like propaganda 1920-1939.
wifol1 2 years ago
It is not propaganda,but soviets authorities did not want the TRUTH about the crimes of war that they made in all the countries,starting with Berlin 1945,Praha,Hungary ,Poland and so on.If we remember all the crimes.......
danutbold 2 years ago
Many people in the USSR simply lived, worked, grew children and their standard of living grew. They had purpose, there was a confidence of tomorrow's day. About this not all was so poorly. Though now it is difficult for understanding as our sights have changed...
wifol1 2 years ago
I know it well, I lived there under tovarish Lionid Brezhnev and many people too wanted to live the monotonous live in the Soviet Union, the lack of liberties and freedom. Religious people were very persecuted and their children too. Some big cities have most of the supplies, the rest of the country, like Odessa, Western Ukraine, there were not eggs, nor meat, and even bread.
CubanodePlacetas 2 years ago
During soviet times it was impossible to research history, because Communist Party controlled everything and they falsificated history to show that they were "peaceful liberators". All who disagreed, were put to prison or executed.
CrimesAgainstHumanit 2 years ago
Ninelon and all other brainwashed soviets still think that they were liberators..but the nations they "liberated" have different opinion...
CrimesAgainstHumanit 2 years ago 2
Thats pathetic to be afraid from your own history, and its kinda sad that Russian people don't know what theyr "great" govorment did few years ago.
Edgarssprogis 2 years ago
Its you idiots don't know the REAL history! We liberated you from Nazis, on your fucking lands died many of russians. And you bitches payed us now with this trash like the Soviet Story.
Ninelon 2 years ago
Ninelon
The Soviet Union did not liberate Batic coutries. The Soviet Union occupied and conquerred Baltic coutries against people´s will. The Soviet Union tryed to conquer Finland 1939-40 Winter War, but we really kicked that pathetic Red Army´s ass and Finland frontier was their worst nightmare during WWII. 1940 we secretly allied with Germany and began together plan Barbarossa, which started 1941. It was really joyfull moment for finnish people, frontier from North Finland to the Bakck Sea.
GBOY69GAY 2 years ago
Muhaha! How we occcupied them, you idiot? They joined us by their will! You kicked our asses? Actually, we won in this war, your stupid moron! We took lands which we needed! And when we kicked your Nazi friends, you became our allies in seconds! Hahahaha!
Ninelon 2 years ago
So we Baltics joined ? JOINED So why there was so many attemts of rebelions with in the countries, wich you say "joned"? Like the "Spring of Prague" Russaisn won the war, yes becasue of the supply of other allied forces. Not to mention you Russains had one rifle for two man :D. And in the Winter War, Finland kicked asses still Russia accupied half the country, but they died like 20 times more than fins.
Edgarssprogis 2 years ago
Muhahhaa, you are such idiot moron! First of all nobody was against it, you stupid! They began to resist only at 60 years!!! Second, if not Russia allies would lost, you moron! Russia kicked more than 80% of NAZIS and 2,5 million Japanese army! USA and all allies killed about 20%!!! Third, you are retardedm one rifle to two men is a bullshit! Fourth, Russia kicked Finland in war anyway, we took Karelia! Hahaha, you such retarded asshole! Lol, fuck off western idiot!
Ninelon 2 years ago
They began resist in the 60s becaus all of the inteligents were sent to siberia to die - its war-crime. Lol one rifle for two man is true, everyone knows it :D. Dont forget that USSR lost 10 times more men than fins. - So, you agree that USSR attacked neutral country becaus of the greed of war? [Finland] Is that what "allied" forces do?
Edgarssprogis 2 years ago
How on earth you can call somebody as an idiot when you are letting text like that coming out of your mouth? Allied should have crushed Soviet Union far before Nazis. From where nazis got the knowledge of mass murdering and concentration camps? I can answer, from USSR. USSR and Stalin was the biggest evil in WW2. If you don't believe me watch some neutral historial source. Don't be an idiot and believe those USSR lies. USSR killed more than 20 million people and they started earlier than nazis.
tupakki 2 years ago
And they continued it after WW2. They did make medical experiment for people; for kids and women as well. These people need to be taken off from the history book as heroes, they are not heroes, just monsters. USSR wasn't a hero of WW2. They were bigger bad than nazis. Thats the cold fact and these brainwashed "russian" youth is still believing that soviet propaganda. Those victory parades of WW2 in Russia are insults for the victims of soviet terror and for those occupied countries.
tupakki 2 years ago
Give us facts, not grannys stories. The real rate of people that suffered from policy in Stalin's times is close to 2kk people.
vchOstryak 2 years ago
@vchOstryak Rudolph Rummel and many others have done the estimate of murders by regimes: Mao, Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot is four of the biggest mass murderers in world history. In Rummels conservative estimates communist regimes murdered 148 million people in the 20th century. Nazi Germany murdered 21 million. The Soviet Union murdered more that twice! as many as Nazi Germany. Communist regimes combined murdered more that 7 times as many as Nazi Germany! Look it up!
maganz 1 year ago
@maganz
Just imagine that your goverment will kill 30% of population of you country, and nobody will know about that. Can it be real? Of cause not. Just think about this. So the counts of Rummel is just a dirty lie. It's a pity that you can not think with your own mind and believe to liars. During Stalin's years there were killed 1-2 millions, or smth. like that (0,5-1.0% of population)
vchOstryak 1 year ago
@vchOstryak Yes, it's with the Russians holocaust deniers as with the national socialist of the same character. They are morally and intellectually deprived. They claimed they where innocent and that the did not know. But they knew.
Already during the Lenins time, the communist regime murdered 4 million people, in addition to those those killed in the war and in addition to those that died because of the famine under Lenin.
Rummel is not a politician, he is a social scientist.
maganz 1 year ago
@maganz
I have only one sort of advice for you. Just try to find alternative sources of information. Cause history was allways a place for political manipulations. With all respect to your point of view, I can't agree with it.
vchOstryak 1 year ago
@maganz
And never believe to american politicians
vchOstryak 1 year ago
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Shut up! This is bullshit propaganda and you know it very well!!!
Ninelon 2 years ago
This is propaganda? Really? Based on what source and what facts have behind your statement? How you can explain all those graves all around of soviet influenced areas? How about those several eye witnesses who are still alive? Mass deportations? Soviet concentration camps? So on and so on. I would say that your saying is nothing more than a result of soviet propaganda. Don't try to deny something that you can't anymore.
tupakki 2 years ago 12
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Stop speaking bullshit! Which fucking camps do you mean? We sent there just 30% of political prisoners (many of them were terrorists), the rest were terrible criminals! Mass deportations? What about killing native americans in America? Huh? Its a history nowdays! Whcih graves do you mean, damn it? WTF? Nazis killed them and stop bullshiting here! You can watch even AMERiCAN documentary called The Battle for Russia and they don't speaking such false and etc.
Ninelon 2 years ago
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And who accepted this our russian crimes? Huh? Who? :D Nazi countries like Poland and Batlic states! Muhahaha! And you are fucking Nazi, so fuck off man!!!
Ninelon 2 years ago
You are a damn laugh of yourself. Go and live in your fairytale where russians are heroes and liberators, thats for you. I haven't heard this kind of stupid statements till now. You don't even know what nazi means but still you are a big boy and telling to everyone that they are NAZIS. Shall I laugh? And don't ask those from me, ask that from victims of those crimes. You are just an arrogant brainwashed kid. You can also curse, good for you. You haven't been at school in vain, I was ironic.
tupakki 2 years ago 16
Which camps and graves I mean? That means you don't know anything about your own history. I shame you. Graves for example, Katyn, Lviv, Tartu, Riga, Vinnica etc. There was camps in so many places, they were called katorga. From year 1929 to 1953 approximately 20 million people lost their lifes. And still you are denying this.
tupakki 2 years ago 5
@tupakki and go live in your dream where NAZIS are gonna rule the world... you think you know what NAZI means ?! it comes from nationalist.. NAZI comes from NAZI Germany - more precise from Nationalist Socialist German Labor Party which ruled Germany and openly spread racism ! you my friend are a racist ! and that's what the movie "soviet story" is all about ! spreading racism towards MODERN russians.. i dont see people hating Germany because of the NAZIS .. strange isnt it ?!
Cnupoc 1 year ago
@Cnupoc Why would I? Yes I know exactly what nazi means. It does not come from Nationalist Socialist German Labor Party, it comes from The National Socialist German Workers' Party. It isn't same as nationalist. The member of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) was called a nazi. I am racist if I want some justice on this World? Germany and germans have made everything to clear its past. What have Russia and russians made for clearing their past? I really want to know.
tupakki 1 year ago
@Cnupoc The difference between Nazi Germany's Holocaust and The Communist Holocaust , is the Nuremberg trials. You Russians have never had anything like that. And in your country denial of the Soviet Communist Holocaust, that in numbers was more that double that of the Nazi Holocaust is socially acceptable and not shunned. And the perpetrators of the Soviet Holocaust is still part of your government! And in this way the day of reckoning will never come to Russia.
maganz 1 year ago
@tupakki Can you name 1 Soviet concentration camp? Mind you GULAG was a labor camp. Can you name location of "all those graves"? You people don't know what you are on about. You are the ones who have been brainwashed.
cyberrate 1 year ago
@cyberrate
Labour camp IS a concentration camp, you moron, People froze and starved to death there and the conditions were just as bad as in Nazi concentration camps. There were no DEATH camps, were people would be just gassed straight away and then cremated. Instead, they were exploited physically and buried in mass graves. Yeah, definitely a better fate.
You know the story of the "Arbeit macht frei" sign? Learn it. I can give you a hint: Nazis didn't come up with it, they copied the idea.
luszczi 1 year ago
@luszczi Labor camp is not the concentration camp. Labor camp is a correctional facility, e.g. people actually got released from there when their sentence was served. Concentration camp is the extermination camp e.g. the end of your life. "Arbeit macht frei" was taken from old German book, I don't remember the title. Moron is your dad.
cyberrate 1 year ago
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JD12ish 11 months ago
@tupakki The Soviet Story is clearly propaganda, something obvious to anyone who knows the first thing about history (the science not the politically motivated slander as seen in the SS).
Can you guess why this film is free to distribute? Because it was funded entirely by the UEN Group (I suggest you look it up on Wikip). There are numerous falsifications, flat out lies along with deliberate misquotations and clear visual/audio manipulations yet very little facts or even a rough timeline shown.
JD12ish 11 months ago
OK, man. What are you talking about? Mass murdering is well-known from prehistoric times.
A simple example is the history of reformation, when the population of Europe was decreased in rate of 10 times. Your words is a nonsence.
vchOstryak 2 years ago
Russians never occupied the half of Finland. They didn't even occupy areas that they got in peace treaties. Still russian criminals are in finnish land, that crime need to be corrected. If somebody knows history, it can be easily called as a crime. Watch Putin and his gang's comments and you will notice they are still just punch of criminals. In Putin's mind those mass murders of Soviet Union are heroes and Russia is rewriting the history, USSR was a threat and it seems Russia will be as well.
tupakki 2 years ago
Thats not a liberation. Russia only get half of the country with great losses. So wheres the point attacking. And Baltics did not join, only the ex-USSR-ists say that, all the occupied countries tells a diferent story.
Edgarssprogis 2 years ago
eto pravda! teper' so vremenem vse yarche i ponyatlivee
romamaxim 2 years ago