Tales of the Abyss Opening (North American)

[WhatSitStudios]

Ya know the game is going to be good if the intro is epic.

[SonicKyuubi]

@WhatSitStudios

Not true.

[WhatSitStudios]

@SonicKyuubi

meh... I guess. But you can't deny that the intro to the game(s) are good.

[SonicKyuubi]

@WhatSitStudios

No, that's a fact. Tales games have great openings.

[MrInsanity25]

@SonicKyuubi There are many Tales and Zelda games to back up his theory.

[SonicKyuubi]

@MrInsanity25

But I'm saying that just because something has a good intro doesn't mean it'll be good.

[MrInsanity25]

@SonicKyuubi I know, but by the scientific method, his theory has yet to be disproven

[ThinkYouCanPlay]

I love how this game can accommodate 4 players AND is an RPG. ;-; I miss it so much.

[bentheoverlord]

i so want to play this game why cant there be a pal version

[deathblaze32]

u can soft mod ur ps2

[AdamBoy64]

@bentheoverlord - As previously stated, you might be able to mod your PS2 as the best way. Also, looks like an Abyss port for the Nintendo 3DS is likely. Could be another option.

Though, you did write this comment a year ago - so you probably knew of these things.

[MrInsanity25]

@AdamBoy64 Abyss port proven as of 2 months ago in a NP interview.

[AdamBoy64]

@MrInsanity25 - Ah! You tracked down my comment. I guess you didn't have to look far to do so.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited about Abyss 3DS. Should be great.

[MrInsanity25]

@AdamBoy64 Yeah^^ Hey, could you explain "PAL" to me?

[AdamBoy64]

@MrInsanity25 - (1/3) No worries. When people are referring to games coming to PAL regions, or games that are PAL - they are referring to what regions the game was released in.

PAL Regions include Europe, the UK, Australia/NZ, and I believe some parts of South America. The major opposite to PAL is NTSC (like the US and Canada, and other parts of South America)

Some consoles are region locked. Like if you buy a PAL system, you can't buy an NTSC game and play it on your PAL system, as it won't >

[AdamBoy64]

@AdamBoy64 - (2/3) < let you. The opposite is also true - PAL games won't play on systems bought in NTSC countries (like the US)

Sometimes, (and the original Tales of the Abyss on PS2 is a good example) games don't come to PAL regions at all. That is, people in Europe/Uk/Australia/NZ can't play them at all.

PAL Owners (or those who bought systems in Europe/UK/Aus/NZ) are generally worse off as games almost always make it to NTSC Regions,

[AdamBoy64]

@AdamBoy64 - (3/3) but there are quite a few that never make it to PAL Regions. Which annoys gamers in PAL Regions. Because people in the UK for example, don't always get the same games people in the US do.

[MrInsanity25]

@AdamBoy64 So that's why I'm paying for PS3 for ToGf rather than learning japanese.

[lilfox1705]

I have this game i totally love playing it

[flaggirl1030]

I like this and the original. But even with this as an instrumental version, I could instantly tell it was from anime the first time I heard it. It's brilliant nevertheless.

[focreject]

Best game ever :D

[windragonx]

why cant i watch episodes after 21

[CaramellOtter]

Love both songs, but it just seems kinda wrong to bring over Karma and simply remove the lead singer. >.> Might just be me, but it doesn't seem right somehow...

[KingxPein]

yeah i was kinda thinking that too, it almost makes you want to think that america dosnt want you to know that its from japan. but of course when you watch enough anime it very easy to tell

[TerraLogan39]

I actually like it without the voice.

I think it makes the opeing more epic. I rather not have someone singing in the opening in games like these.

[inuluver5]

&hearts;jade is mine idc if he is 35!! &hearts; &hearts; &hearts;

[DraconicSlayer]

i like this song! =)

[Joemanblow182]

I love the game and the song my fav game on the ps2 also  ^_^

[yasha46]

i like the NA version cus of the kick ass electric guitar

[7874869]

ok who here thinks jade is hawt other than me ♥ ^.^

[RianiLoveZelos]

I think!

He's hawt as well *o*

Jade Curtiss-samaaa~ ^- ^

[xshamancAZNI]

I believe that there would have been some kind of copyright issue or something with bringing over Karma with its lyrics, which is why they did an instrumental cover of it for the North American release.

Personally, I like both equally, but there was a video that combined both the japanese and NA versions that was even better.

[BloodRedPapercut]

too bad it never came to Europe

[AdamBoy64]

Don't give up yet. I've been hearing and seeing places taking pre-orders for April 2008.

I think the Japanese vocals in the English release wouldn't have worked. I prefer the English version, but the Japanese one is still good. I'd rather watch the 'Karma' video clip by 'Bump of Chicken' for the full thing.

[kratosofluin]

Licensing issues, that's why we won't get vocals here until Vesperia.

[Kuku1123]

I like both version XD

[Kakashi2girl]

I wouldn't have minded English vocals in ToA. I like this version, all it is a (nicely) remade vocal-less version of the original. Very clean.

Now, as for the Symphonia GC version, it's so watered down... there is just no excuse for that.

[Zeldarulah]

BLAH BLAH BLAH WE NEED THE JAPANESE LYRICS

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Yeah that's why we wait for it to come to America. To listen the the Japanese version. And Ruin... what? It's TotA, therefore it looks like TotA.

[Geno970]

Personally I don't like the japanese version of the opening. The vocals are weird. Maybe it's just me but I generally prefer instrumental only versions of alot of songs.

[Fullmetalboy]

I like the version with vocals better.

[KillaManReaper2]

@Fullmetalboy I like the vocal version better as well, but i do think that this version is pretty cool. Now if they would just combine the two and everyone would be happy. I think the guitar would fit nicely with the japanese version, but thats just me.

[752641983]

Imagine this on mario paint.

[bozardo]

What is mario paint?

[Progamer107]

Tales of Abyss has a better Battle system... but when you get right down to alot of the material of this game (not the LMBS, Abyss has a dif. version of LMBS) it is a symphonia clone. :/

Look at Luke and Zelos? (how they look) and Guy-Raine?(how they act?)

[JadeTheNecromancer]

I kind of like connections like that ]:

-shrinkdown-

[Nocticus]

Well maybe they're just trying to relate to the other Tales games? I don't know >_>

[Kakashi2girl]

You have to remember that Tales of the Abyss is /kinda/ intentionally tied to Tales of Symphonia. It's like Future Symphonia. It takes place a couple thousand years afterwards, and some of the locations are placed similar, the moves look the same with different names or even are the same.(Light Spear is just one example.) Not to mention the character attributes. You never know- Luke might be a future equally spoiled and immature also red-headed relative of Zelos... As for Guy and Raine... dunno.

[theElegist]

Luke doesn't have a difficult past at all. It's Asch that does.

Zelos wasn't really "spoiled" either. That was rather a guise to leave some ambiguity to his real feelings. If you played the game, you'd know what I'm talking about, so I won't spoil it.

[no438]

who's Zelos??

Can't find this person on Wikipedia

[kanamizDreamer]

I believe Zelos is from Tales of Symphonia. O-o

[staystrong7]

He is.

[kanamizDreamer]

True, true. Cause technically Luke has no past. xDD

[Souleater2k]

well i like this version far better than the japanese. the vocals are horrible and the english version sounds more clean and has awesome guitar riffs.

but dont get me wrong,its not because of the japanese language. im a fan of Laruku,mucc,ajikan etc. since years so i do like japanese vocals normally, but in this song i find the voice just distracting and out of place.

[alkafrazin]

MUCC! :D

[dataridden]

I sort of agree. But the only reason I like the amarican version is the remade sound. Listen to each one and you can tell they are different somewhat.

[Ruin6]

No offense, but that doesn't look like the Abyss at all to me.

[KamilDowonna]

I have heard both versions and although the Jap version is good, I prefer the North American version.

[2RandomGirls]

me too! if you like this game, play tales of symphonia.

so many plot twists, you won't know what hit you!

but, so cool!<3 it's my favorite of all games.... the end is so sad. if you cry easily, be prepared.

[Kthxgoal]

i like the version w/o the vocals

[GreyFoxRamen]

Well, I guess I'll put in my two cents on the subject... I'll tell you now that I prefer this version to the Japanese version. The reason being that when the Japanese version cuts to the singing, everything else seems drowned out by the singer's nasal voice (and I still think it's good, but not as good as this). This version is just so much more harmonious and emotional, and it doesn't subtract from the characters' emotions, like the singing does.

[BCXxvcL]

if anyone can tell me where i can find tab for this song ill be so happy:)

[hunter2458]

I like the song with the lyrics personally, but I feel the instrumental version fits better with the video. Something I did manage to notice is that the instrumental version is different from the instrumental section of the japanese version, IE, this version is a little more pumped and has more beats and notes.

[xXDarkredXx]

I agree with you full heartedly on your first comment Glitch.

[PerfectGlitch]

I prefer the American version a bit more, although the Japanese version is still pretty good.

[ccccandy123]

I like this one wasy better! ^^

[xXDarkredXx]

This version is better. An instrumental fits the action better in my opinion. Note that I'm not dissing any culture by saying this.

[Tamani15]

i like both versions...........:S

[Elrundir]

I like it better this way, at least for the purpose of the opening theme. I dunno, maybe it's just because I got used to hearing it without vocals, but when I watched the Japanese opening I found the words jarring. It's the music that's beautiful about this song, not the lyrics.

[Coolboy1234]

The japanese version sucks! the guy hardly even sings. he mostly just speaks the words. so don't hate Namco

[sword66]

Japanese version is better in my opinion

[PerfectGlitch]

And of course, he was just commenting on the song. Just because someone likes something made for/in another country better doesn't mean they are dissing that country. You are a fool for thinking so.

[digitalwill]

hmm, an american quick ot diss another nationality when in reality you suck,

[PerfectGlitch]

Christ, I hate idiots like you. (Digital) Oh noes! Someone likes the American version of the song better than the Japanese version! You suck! All Americans always hate on other countries! Oh the irony, it almost hurts.

America gets bashed way more often by ignorant foreigners than they bash others because there are more of them. (obviously) I hate people who act like all Americans are ignorant, even though they are being completely hypocritical.

[PerfectGlitch]

Hmmm, the response after "sword66"'s comment was also to digital.

[dalmain77]

I prefer this version. I normally prefer the original versions, but this is good with out the Japanese vocals.

[Mahogany]

I actually prefer this version. In my opinion, the vocals just don't flow with the opening animation all that well. I like listening to it, though. It's a good song.

[UnoriginalUsername06]

I like them both. The Japanese version has a lot more feeling. The vocals add a lot. I also liked the bass better in the Japanese version. The American version has a great background. Instead of just replacing the vocals, they added a couple more background parts. The added parts give a lot more depth to the sound.

Either way, this is a great song.

[PhatPhilEEA]

Niether opening is better than the other, they merely have the one thing that's missing from the other. NA opening needs the vocals, REDONE mind you and the JP opening needs the AWESOME guitar riffs in this opening.

Look at how many games were coming out in october. They had to publish Abyss AND G.U. at the SAME TIME. I'm sure they were hurting from all the production costs and the vocals were one thing they probably had to let go.

[AustinAngelus723]

Where can you get this song? THe Blue lagunia site doesnt have it for some stupid reason X_X

[EverythingChanges12]

I personally think it would sound better with the Japanese vocals, because even if we can't understand them, it sounds better than the guitar, which repeats itself too much. And MrDartz, whether we complained or not, it would have made it here either way. And you can expect to see more, because they're getting popular

[Koppella]

Personally, I think it sounds MUCH better without japanese vocals. xP

The singer honestly sounds drunk.

[pokemon9008]

ya NAMCO SUCKS they take out everything good

[BladeBlurX]

It's fine, I like what they did with Abyss more than what did with Syphmonia, just your typical soulless intro. :(

[DRWii]

While I do miss the lyrics, on a musical level, this is actually better. And yes, if they tried to sing a translation, it would sound horrible; just look at "Bubblegum Crisis". *Shivers*

[jdhathrisen]

the vocals were good, but i watched the jap opening for ages, and this opening was refreshing. the guitar is fantastic. i love it.

[ShinnAsucka]

The instrumental version complements the vid perfectly, while the vocals kind of distracts your attention from the vid.

[ShinnAsucka]

The music kicks ass, but the vocals kind of distracts your attention from the vid, while the instrumental version complements the vid perfectly.

[MrDartz]

Bitch, bitch, bitch! Is that all you people can do? BE ***KING THANKFULL THIS GAME MADE IT STATESIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

[silentwish]

i agree, they really need to stop taking stuff out of our games -_- but this is good too...but i thought they would leave the vocals

[StarfoxFire]

at least they put more mystic artes into our games to redeem themselves from screwing us over with TOS

[thegreymantle]

i prefer this version a lot more to the lyrical version, mainly because i dont know what the lyrics are about and the music speaks for itself...am tabbing this out on guitar as i write this XD

[Teppit]

I'm personally quite fond of the lyricless version. I find it more fitting and think that the emotions are better shown through the music by itself. But that might be my bias, as without the lyrics, Anise and Jade's part seems a lot more special, rather than just some chorus. So personally, I'm very happy with the change, but I would not have minded the one with Japanese also. As long as there isn't a lame English version (like they did with Wild ARMs 4), I should be fine.

[SonjaArashi]

I like this version more as well. =3 I just wish we had voice acting during the skits. The skits are rather boring without it...

I like japanese music, but the vocals in this song just didn't work for the intro that well.

[Derek1990]

i mean it's ok, the song it's the same, the american corporation took out the japanesse voices 'cuz the most part of the americans doesn't speak japanese, and they did it not 'cuz the money....can you imagine how would the song sound if it were translated?...i mean...knowing a little about the translation...it would had sound horrible...so don't be so mad

[Derek1990]

it's normal to us to be mad with namco for that, but just take a look, it's at least the same game...i mean, also they added the 3 lost hi-ougis from natalie, guy and a boss,

[ChCa]

Like KajitaniEizan said, I think money is the factor....but not doing voice-over in skits is just horrible...just when I expected that it will be cool whenever i watch skits but noooo, there is no voice... Oh well, we can't do anything about this, but I like the opening even without vocals ^^

[utabanviewer]

if money was the factor then all dey had to do was:

leave the op alone(japanese vocals as well)

translate only the voices

translate only the program

translate only the text

and leave the op alone and they wud have saved money and not have wasted any at all

dats all dey had to do

but the dumb u.s namco company thinks they knoe everything and changed the op that the japanese namco company made!

[ChCa]

Yes, you're right.

[KajitaniEizan]

i'm pretty sure MONEY would be the primary factor here in removing the vocals. that, and 90% of americans aren't japanophiles.

[DRWii]

Well, it's a step. I'd rather have Karma with no lyrics than risk Namco making another stupid orchestral opening. I don't have a problem with orchestra music, but most of the Tales of american openings suck (Symphonia and this are the exceptions).

[DRWii]

I would like to mend a mistake I made in my post: I said Symphonia and this were the exception to the Tales of/orchestrated American openings; Abyss' opening is NOT orchestrated (so only Symphonia is the exception).

[omegaevolution]

no no no no no, what happened to the opening T.T, the lyrics where the ones that give this song live T.T

[trogdorgozales]

no, the lyrics! I wanted lyrics!

[ace52387]

lol tear thinks she so sexy. flicking her hair like whenever she moves.

[PirateKing12345]

NGG 4 LYFE!!!!