The story is so complex in MGS, but if you understand it alll you will realize the story is one of the best ever created in a video game, Hideo Kojima is a genious!!!!!!!!!!
That's a tough call, in an empty room with no weapons I'd say...damn I really can't decide. Special Forces are some hard core mother huggers, and Snake was the best of the best. Batman trained around the world, and on a day by day basis puts his training to the test.
My guess is that they are both tied, and can both equally kick James Bond's ass as well.
Hm....yeah I can't decide. I would say they're pretty much equal :P But considering that Batman has his one code of never killing, I guess Snake would have to win there. Otherwise, yeah.
The Sorrow , gave that bandana to The Joy (The Boss) when he died, then she always wear it , and at the start of MGS3 you see Naked snake take it from her and wears it.
Yeah but... If you don't remember, that blue bandana that Big Boss have in MGS3 and years later will give it to Solid was from the beginning from The Boss, in the bridge when that bitch throw you to the water... What that means? A bandana doesn't means nothing, you can buy it in a store but if you mean the blue bandana, who knows? maybe The Sorrow gived it to The Boss as a present o_O
The Boss and The Sorrow are the parents of Ocelot. Where the hell did you got that The Sorrow is Big Boss's father?! Big Boss is a normal human just like others, he has parents, cousins, uncles, etc. But he just got to CIA and work for them. Those with no normal family is Solid, Liquid and Solidus, because they are just simply clones of Big Boss.
I actually think Big Boss and Eva fucked and had twins Liquid and Solid. Cause when you read the stuff in the books it doesn't even say Solidus is a brother. Also It makes sence be cause you know Kojima want kill Snake it will probobly live and his aging process will stop and he will look 30 again. Its probobly all Fox Die making him age cause Kojima is probobly just throwing all our mines for a loop. Cause he already said Solidus wasnt a clone of big boss he just admierd his work.
MGS1 revealed Liquid and Solid were clones. MGS4 revealed who was the surrogate mother, who carried Liquid and Solid, and that was EVA. They carry none EVA's DNA nor the donator of the egg, an unnamed Japanese woman revealed in MGS4. The Doc. of MGS2 and MGS4 revealed that Snake suffered age acceleration because how he was cloned. FoxDie has nothing to do with it. Solidus is a clone of Big Boss. He's the well-balanced clone in MGS2, and in later in MGS4, he was revealed to be the perfect clone.
@moziz212ny uhhh... snake and liquid do have a few dna of EVA solid apparently know this a bit, and raven states "the blood of the east (specifically china) runs in Solid's veins" so almost all of his dna and genes come from big boss, but the rest come from EVA
yeah big boss is great and all but shouldnt he had the eye wound cleaned you cant just put an eye patch over it and expect better of it and MGS3 has an a lot of like clues to what is to come in MGS1
Wait a minute, I don't remember seeing the part where Solidus is talking about Solid and Liquid chasing Bigboss. The one with the artwork. What version of MGS2 is that? Maybe I should play it again.
@MojowidanAK He did go bad. Or more like insane. He developed an obsession with war, lost sight if The will of The Boss was was trying to create a world of mass conflict where sodliers would always have a place. Stopping The Patriots was simply the start of his plan, with them gone Outer Heaven would fill the power vaccum left behind, and the world be left in chaos which is what he wanted
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nope, after MGS3 he was in another mission, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. During this time, he was still a good guy. Only after wards, he became evil
army's heaven,outer heaven,and outer haven...are all the works of big boss, the philosophers,( later the patriots) and history controlled by the mass amounts of cash only known as the,"philosopher's legacy." these where the ingredients that made Big Boss and Solid Snake,into heroes,traitors and legends...yet.. for every great game, there must be more stories to be told. what about Raiden? will we see him again? and what of Ocelot? when will we play as our beloved, (but hated) enemy? In time...
1. Solid Snake didn't die his hair. It was explain that in the briefing the black and white camera made his hair look blonde. I mean for god sakes when in the very first MG his har is brown.
2. Liquid is the dominant like ocelot said.
3. Solidus is the pefrect son and clone of Big boss. He is the only snake to die his hair, but only to look like Big boss himself.
Solid Snake having brown hair in the first MG doesn't mean SHlT. They recon SHlT all the time. Look at Big Boss' back story in wikipedia, they changed that SHlT.
Wow epic fail for you comment. That was the most utter fail. Especially when you said wikipedia since i can change and type in Big Boss was born with purple hair lol.
2. Well, Ocelot said Liquid is the dominant one, but I don't really think he was talking about genes there. After all, Liquid has the recessive genes,
3. Solidus didn't die his hair. He was just suffering from accelerated aging.
In the mission briefing Solid Snake's hair was blonde. That's how I know. Cambell showed a picture of LIquid Snake to Solid Snake, and said aside from the skin tone they are identical.
It's funny in the First MGS, Solid Snake was blonde, but died his hair so people wouldn't confuse him with Liquid. Yet in MGS3, Big Boss has brown hair.
Maybe his hair wasn't blonde, but if you watch the briefing on the first Metal Gear Solid(PS) his hair looks blonde. On top of that Roy Campbell say that him and Liquid look exactly the same except for their skin tone. And in the last segment of the briefing it is pitch dark, and you hear him cutting his hair, and when asked why he says he doesn't want to be mistaken for Liquid.
The blonde hair in the briefing video in MGS1 was pretty much an error or something Kojima had in mind in the early production of the game. But Snake never had blonde hair in MG and MG2:SS, and TTS corrected the briefing video on the GameCube remake to fix any misunderstanding.
Snake never dyed his hair in MGS1, he only asked for scissors to trim his hair. Even with his trimmed hair, Meryl mistaken him for Liquid when they first met.
Originally in MGS2, Snake dyed his hair before he arrived to the Big Shell. He was supposedly killed on the tanker, and adding "Plisken" and the blonde hair into the mix was supposed to confuse some of the fans. However as you arrived in Arsenal Gear, Snake's hair goes back to brown according to the Document of MGS2. This idea was never implemented in the final game. If you look at art book of MGS2, you can see Plisken had a dirty blonde hair, while Snake had brown hair.
Metal Gear RAXA, the one he destroyed midway through the game was a decoy though. The real Metal Gear was attached to a space rocket, which is how it would travel across countries. The Metal Gear in MPO was a 4 legged weapon, and it could hover several yards in the air. The design was loosely based on Granin's idea, but they haven't achieved a bi-pedal Metal Gear in 1970.
Awesome video dude you seem interested in the story between Snake and Big Boss. Check out my latest video on my channel called Father and Son. The song is from the MGS4 album and the track on the album is called "Father & Son" You should check it out man. 5/5
Me? My laptop has been in the shop for a long time and its still gonna be awhile. I occasionally get on AIM through my phone..... never see any of you guys on.
what was the song that played at the end where solidus and raiden conversed?
kirasaji 1 year ago
@kirasaji Arrival from Transformers (Bay movie)
moziz212ny 1 year ago
Thats why i like MGS there is no bad guys... just different points of views...
But with the same goal ...... the freedom
OnToneL96A1 1 year ago 4
wtf raiden is a genome?
alvcasher 1 year ago
LOL nice taking the transformer film them.
ricardocontreras94 1 year ago
Thats like how I was born! lol
THE1PAINOF1THE1GAME 1 year ago
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Drcritic0 1 year ago
good vid, i love this story so much!
Menokokoro 1 year ago
ha i hear mgs 2 music at 1 min till 2 min
bulletformyv1 1 year ago
50 years later: solid,liquid, and solidus snake were born!!!! O_0
glutiniop2 1 year ago
thats depper than the other side of the pool
bloob5 1 year ago
ok this video was supposed to make me more understand metal gear story but i am even more confused -_-
H00ligan93 2 years ago
@H00ligan93 I can help you whit the history lol , its easy (Not really)
ju4ncho3657 1 year ago
OH MY GOD
Nialler32 2 years ago
The story is so complex in MGS, but if you understand it alll you will realize the story is one of the best ever created in a video game, Hideo Kojima is a genious!!!!!!!!!!
MojowidanAK 2 years ago 4
The music with Solidus' speech is utterly perfect.
Well done.
IdiotGod 2 years ago 4
We now know it's all Para-Medics fault! XD
xXRhiWXx 2 years ago 4
the music wasnt really fiting, but the idea behind the video was cool
gerritgang 2 years ago 2
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why is there a transformer song at the end?
Beerbottles123 2 years ago
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
walmartpimp2 2 years ago 13
hmm... snake vs batman. who will win?
Beerbottles123 2 years ago
That's a tough call, in an empty room with no weapons I'd say...damn I really can't decide. Special Forces are some hard core mother huggers, and Snake was the best of the best. Batman trained around the world, and on a day by day basis puts his training to the test.
My guess is that they are both tied, and can both equally kick James Bond's ass as well.
walmartpimp2 2 years ago 5
better: Snake Vs Cpt America! ...i allways think about it : D
nicote 2 years ago
Snake, of course
jackcooper112 2 years ago
Hm....yeah I can't decide. I would say they're pretty much equal :P But considering that Batman has his one code of never killing, I guess Snake would have to win there. Otherwise, yeah.
OmegaOwA 2 years ago 2
The Sorrow , gave that bandana to The Joy (The Boss) when he died, then she always wear it , and at the start of MGS3 you see Naked snake take it from her and wears it.
thats where he got it from.
PullusPardus 2 years ago
Yeah but... If you don't remember, that blue bandana that Big Boss have in MGS3 and years later will give it to Solid was from the beginning from The Boss, in the bridge when that bitch throw you to the water... What that means? A bandana doesn't means nothing, you can buy it in a store but if you mean the blue bandana, who knows? maybe The Sorrow gived it to The Boss as a present o_O
dgcrew 2 years ago
Nah, MEN!
The Boss and The Sorrow are the parents of Ocelot. Where the hell did you got that The Sorrow is Big Boss's father?! Big Boss is a normal human just like others, he has parents, cousins, uncles, etc. But he just got to CIA and work for them. Those with no normal family is Solid, Liquid and Solidus, because they are just simply clones of Big Boss.
dgcrew 2 years ago 5
no he's the father of Ocelot.
StrykerKurtis 2 years ago 4
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I actually think Big Boss and Eva fucked and had twins Liquid and Solid. Cause when you read the stuff in the books it doesn't even say Solidus is a brother. Also It makes sence be cause you know Kojima want kill Snake it will probobly live and his aging process will stop and he will look 30 again. Its probobly all Fox Die making him age cause Kojima is probobly just throwing all our mines for a loop. Cause he already said Solidus wasnt a clone of big boss he just admierd his work.
deighties 3 years ago
MGS1 revealed Liquid and Solid were clones. MGS4 revealed who was the surrogate mother, who carried Liquid and Solid, and that was EVA. They carry none EVA's DNA nor the donator of the egg, an unnamed Japanese woman revealed in MGS4. The Doc. of MGS2 and MGS4 revealed that Snake suffered age acceleration because how he was cloned. FoxDie has nothing to do with it. Solidus is a clone of Big Boss. He's the well-balanced clone in MGS2, and in later in MGS4, he was revealed to be the perfect clone.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
@moziz212ny uhhh... snake and liquid do have a few dna of EVA solid apparently know this a bit, and raven states "the blood of the east (specifically china) runs in Solid's veins" so almost all of his dna and genes come from big boss, but the rest come from EVA
calebandvegas 1 year ago
@calebandvegas the lady who donated the eggs was japanese.
takeda155 1 year ago
woah kojima is crazy, i didn't realize how many subtle hints he dropped to understand the mindfucks in 4
xazbaschboss 3 years ago 2
Very good videos, it's a good recapitulations of the story
999Morgoth999 3 years ago
Big Boss was my favorite character, it's unfortunate that you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago 3
yeah big boss is great and all but shouldnt he had the eye wound cleaned you cant just put an eye patch over it and expect better of it and MGS3 has an a lot of like clues to what is to come in MGS1
WookhieManJoe 3 years ago
this video was so good :)
EvilDeevil94 3 years ago 2
Wait a minute, I don't remember seeing the part where Solidus is talking about Solid and Liquid chasing Bigboss. The one with the artwork. What version of MGS2 is that? Maybe I should play it again.
blacksunend 3 years ago
Play it again...it's in there lol.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
Haha! Okay I will. Thanks!
blacksunend 3 years ago
Good video! It was good to brush up since I havn't played any MG/S games in a long time
OneShotStop229 3 years ago
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WOW this is the most confusing game ever
Volton75 3 years ago
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tumb down.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago
Clones? You should know Big Boss, you have 3 of you running around later on!
huntersmith22 3 years ago
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Did Big Boss become evil after MGS3?
jeanclaudee1989 3 years ago
its hard 2 explain
big boss didnt "realy" go bad?
he was fighting 4 his own reasons
MojowidanAK 3 years ago 23
ah ok i see, thx ;)
jeanclaudee1989 3 years ago
@MojowidanAK He did go bad. Or more like insane. He developed an obsession with war, lost sight if The will of The Boss was was trying to create a world of mass conflict where sodliers would always have a place. Stopping The Patriots was simply the start of his plan, with them gone Outer Heaven would fill the power vaccum left behind, and the world be left in chaos which is what he wanted
cocaineuk87 8 months ago
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nope, after MGS3 he was in another mission, Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. During this time, he was still a good guy. Only after wards, he became evil
huntersmith22 3 years ago
play metal gear solid 4 and see if he was really evil or not
nocturned85 3 years ago 8
liquids hair mustuv bin blonde since
#~SPOILER~#
there mother Big Moma a.k.a EVA from MGS3
also had blonde hair
MojowidanAK 3 years ago 4
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Naked Snake/Big Boss is a shit father!
DarthFanta 3 years ago
lol
In the conventional sense, yes...
PriestOfFilm 3 years ago 5
What track did you use near the end of the video? (The last track played)
samuraiprose 3 years ago
It's from Transformers called "Arrival..." something, I can't remember at the moment.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
that's what you call a dysfunctional family...
Tagud 3 years ago
army's heaven,outer heaven,and outer haven...are all the works of big boss, the philosophers,( later the patriots) and history controlled by the mass amounts of cash only known as the,"philosopher's legacy." these where the ingredients that made Big Boss and Solid Snake,into heroes,traitors and legends...yet.. for every great game, there must be more stories to be told. what about Raiden? will we see him again? and what of Ocelot? when will we play as our beloved, (but hated) enemy? In time...
kirasaji 3 years ago
Armys Heaven was Built by Gene, Outer Haven By liquid Ocelot.. the philosophers were not the patriots there a differnt organsiton
thebaconboy 3 years ago
1. Solid Snake didn't die his hair. It was explain that in the briefing the black and white camera made his hair look blonde. I mean for god sakes when in the very first MG his har is brown.
2. Liquid is the dominant like ocelot said.
3. Solidus is the pefrect son and clone of Big boss. He is the only snake to die his hair, but only to look like Big boss himself.
DTown70 3 years ago 5
Solid Snake having brown hair in the first MG doesn't mean SHlT. They recon SHlT all the time. Look at Big Boss' back story in wikipedia, they changed that SHlT.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago
Wow epic fail for you comment. That was the most utter fail. Especially when you said wikipedia since i can change and type in Big Boss was born with purple hair lol.
DTown70 3 years ago 8
1. Correct.
2. Well, Ocelot said Liquid is the dominant one, but I don't really think he was talking about genes there. After all, Liquid has the recessive genes,
3. Solidus didn't die his hair. He was just suffering from accelerated aging.
CountAbel 3 years ago
Solidus did dye his hair. Get the Document of MGS2 dvd. He dyed it to look like big boss with his age accelration.
DTown70 3 years ago
I have the document DVD and I've never heard anything like that. I know how Snake was supposed to dye his hair befor Big Shell, but that's about it.
CountAbel 3 years ago
The document stated Solidus groomed himself to look more like the older Big Boss. Some would consider hair dyeing one's hair is grooming.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
@moziz212ny he was also chuffed when ocelot told him that he was the spitting image of BB after he lost his eye
dan333onlyhalfevil 1 year ago
Ahh so thats why Liquid's hair was blond. he revieved the mother's genetic code.
blueshrooms 3 years ago 3
In the mission briefing Solid Snake's hair was blonde. That's how I know. Cambell showed a picture of LIquid Snake to Solid Snake, and said aside from the skin tone they are identical.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago
1) he is not blonde in the briefing because it was in BLACK AND WHITE which makes brown appear blonder.
2) He is talking about Solid and Liquid's physique. Their face is the same, their body is the same...
jerrylionheart 3 years ago
does the music from the second call happen automatically in game, or is it editing?
michaelthonger 3 years ago
I added it in.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
It's funny in the First MGS, Solid Snake was blonde, but died his hair so people wouldn't confuse him with Liquid. Yet in MGS3, Big Boss has brown hair.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago
yeah, i didn't get that either. i wonder if there's any explanation anywhere.
shiryu22 3 years ago
he dyed his hair? how do you know? he only learned about liquid in mgs1 when his hair was brown before
michaelthonger 3 years ago
That's not true. Solid Snake NEVER had blonde hair.
Originally he was supposed to dye his hair blonde in MGS2 so that people wouldn't recognize him.
CountAbel 3 years ago
Maybe his hair wasn't blonde, but if you watch the briefing on the first Metal Gear Solid(PS) his hair looks blonde. On top of that Roy Campbell say that him and Liquid look exactly the same except for their skin tone. And in the last segment of the briefing it is pitch dark, and you hear him cutting his hair, and when asked why he says he doesn't want to be mistaken for Liquid.
sexysk8erchik180 3 years ago
The blonde hair in the briefing video in MGS1 was pretty much an error or something Kojima had in mind in the early production of the game. But Snake never had blonde hair in MG and MG2:SS, and TTS corrected the briefing video on the GameCube remake to fix any misunderstanding.
Snake never dyed his hair in MGS1, he only asked for scissors to trim his hair. Even with his trimmed hair, Meryl mistaken him for Liquid when they first met.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
Originally in MGS2, Snake dyed his hair before he arrived to the Big Shell. He was supposedly killed on the tanker, and adding "Plisken" and the blonde hair into the mix was supposed to confuse some of the fans. However as you arrived in Arsenal Gear, Snake's hair goes back to brown according to the Document of MGS2. This idea was never implemented in the final game. If you look at art book of MGS2, you can see Plisken had a dirty blonde hair, while Snake had brown hair.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
what metal gear does snake fight in portable ops?
chaz84720 3 years ago 2
Metal Gear RAXA, the one he destroyed midway through the game was a decoy though. The real Metal Gear was attached to a space rocket, which is how it would travel across countries. The Metal Gear in MPO was a 4 legged weapon, and it could hover several yards in the air. The design was loosely based on Granin's idea, but they haven't achieved a bi-pedal Metal Gear in 1970.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
oh thats cool
chaz84720 3 years ago
Nice vid good music
thint14 3 years ago 2
Awesome video dude you seem interested in the story between Snake and Big Boss. Check out my latest video on my channel called Father and Son. The song is from the MGS4 album and the track on the album is called "Father & Son" You should check it out man. 5/5
andehsparham21 3 years ago
liquid implies that abortion is murder even before the 2nd trimester
morbentfel 3 years ago 2
Kay. Thanks.
Nikkolas777 3 years ago
Question. What's the song playing during the scene with Solidus and Raiden?
Nikkolas777 3 years ago
It's called "Arrival" and it's from the movie Transformers.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
What's up man? Love the editing in this. You still as hyped for MGS4 as I am? I just pre-ordered last week.
Anyways... now have I the urge to watch Transformers...
FatBeezzee 3 years ago
Where have you been?!
moziz212ny 3 years ago
Me? My laptop has been in the shop for a long time and its still gonna be awhile. I occasionally get on AIM through my phone..... never see any of you guys on.
FatBeezzee 3 years ago
Love this video! Great editing!
baijibaiji 3 years ago
Thanks, I wanted to add more scenes to it, but I didn't want to make it that long and didn't want to use youtube uploader. Ten minutes is just right.
moziz212ny 3 years ago
Great vid
Keyshawn19carter 3 years ago