The claim that Mary is the Mother of God cannot be true as you cannot separate our Lord Jesus from the Godhead. To say that Mary is the Mother of God is to say that she is the Mother of God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There is now a group in America trying to picture Mary as God the Father and Joseph as the Holy Spirit in answer to motherhood of God of Mary. This also is their answer in the question of perpetual virginity of Mary
@eriesal Mary did not create the divine person of Jesus, who existed with the Father from all eternity. "In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity.
Please do not misunderstood my stand because with all my heart I respect Mary the mother of our Lord. She was a chosen vessel by God for the promised Savior. Mary, however, was not sinless. Mary said in the annunciation, My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior. Many wicked kings and a prostitute was in the genealogy of Jesus. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only sinless One who doesn't need a Savior as he Himself is the Savior
I was once a devoted Roman Catholic despising the King James version of the Holy Bible but follows diligently what is in the RC Catechism. I have a King Douay version that is commonly used by Catholics. My attention was called on the 2nd of the 10 Commandments of God. The Douay version shows there really is the second commandment while the Catechism it was removed in totality. Since removing the 2nd commandment would make the 10 only 9, the Catechism divided the 10th Commandment into two.
Scriptures from a historical point of view is also the work of man. Moses, Abraham and Jesus did not have a secretary that wrote while the events are actually happening. The Bible is the result of a long standing tradition of the Jews and the early Christians. Traditions that is based on their own expereince of God that they find it necessary to write down. Therefore we cannot just interpret it in our own context but try to see first the context in which it is first written.
@MrEriesal.... in truth you are the idolater because you worship your narrow ideas about the faith of others and use the Scriptures to justify your stupidity.
@eriesal ...We do not worship Mary, we honor her, just as Jesus honors her. So, there is absolutely nothing wrong, from a scriptural point of view, in calling Mary the Queen of Heaven, and in honoring her just as Jesus honors her.
@eriesal And there is a true Queen of Heaven, we see this quite clearly in Revelation 12:1, "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars..." Let's see. There's a woman...she's in Heaven...and she has a crown on her head. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the maid! No! It is the true Queen of Heaven, Mary, the mother of the male child who is to rule the nations.
@eriesal ...Again, the fact that there is a false "queen of heaven", does not lead to the conclusion that we worship a false goddess when we call Mary the "Queen of Heaven." Just as the fact that there is a false "god", does not lead to the conclusion that we worship a false god when we call our Father in Heaven, God...
@eriesal That type of thinking would lead you to believe that just because people worship a false god that they call "god," we, therefore, should not call the true God, by that same name...God...because that's the same title the idolaters use for their god! That is faulty logic and it makes no sense whatsoever.
@eriesal In Jeremiah 7:18, God is indeed upset with the Israelites for worshipping a false goddess called the "queen of heaven". However, just because God rebuked them for worshipping the false queen of heaven, doesn't mean that we cannot pay honor to the true Queen of Heaven...the Blessed Mother.
@MrEriesal Mary is the most beautiful model of total submission to the will of God. Catholics do not view Mary as equal to Christ, but rather venerate Mary because of her relationship to Christ. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, “Mary’s role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it” (CCC 964).
@MrEriesal Catholics believe that worship is due to God alone. Catholics do, however, venerate Mary. In other words, we honor our Blessed Mother with great reverence and devotion because she is the Mother of God...
++++= VIva LA vergin DE penafrancia,,, milagrosong INA dyaN sa BICOLANDIA,, alaM NTin NA very DEVOTION TLaga ANG bicolaNO pIPOL im A bicolANO 2 im a CHOIR in mANILa.... I BILIEVE that the virgen is ano milagroso tlaga bilive that so nagkakaisa tau bcause there so many pipol go in that celebration ..im ask u virgin mary to guide the all devotionist that go in his celebration every 3rd week of sept .godbless
The claim that Mary is the Mother of God cannot be true as you cannot separate our Lord Jesus from the Godhead. To say that Mary is the Mother of God is to say that she is the Mother of God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. There is now a group in America trying to picture Mary as God the Father and Joseph as the Holy Spirit in answer to motherhood of God of Mary. This also is their answer in the question of perpetual virginity of Mary
eriesal 1 year ago
@eriesal Mary did not create the divine person of Jesus, who existed with the Father from all eternity. "In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her Son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity.
JtM5651 1 year ago
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Please do not misunderstood my stand because with all my heart I respect Mary the mother of our Lord. She was a chosen vessel by God for the promised Savior. Mary, however, was not sinless. Mary said in the annunciation, My soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior. Many wicked kings and a prostitute was in the genealogy of Jesus. Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only sinless One who doesn't need a Savior as he Himself is the Savior
eriesal 1 year ago
I was once a devoted Roman Catholic despising the King James version of the Holy Bible but follows diligently what is in the RC Catechism. I have a King Douay version that is commonly used by Catholics. My attention was called on the 2nd of the 10 Commandments of God. The Douay version shows there really is the second commandment while the Catechism it was removed in totality. Since removing the 2nd commandment would make the 10 only 9, the Catechism divided the 10th Commandment into two.
eriesal 1 year ago
Scriptures from a historical point of view is also the work of man. Moses, Abraham and Jesus did not have a secretary that wrote while the events are actually happening. The Bible is the result of a long standing tradition of the Jews and the early Christians. Traditions that is based on their own expereince of God that they find it necessary to write down. Therefore we cannot just interpret it in our own context but try to see first the context in which it is first written.
mikekyut 1 year ago
This is plain and simple idolatry which Almighty God abhors. The Bible describes this as abomination, in Tagalog, karumaldumal.
MrEriesal 2 years ago
@MrEriesal.... in truth you are the idolater because you worship your narrow ideas about the faith of others and use the Scriptures to justify your stupidity.
mikekyut 1 year ago
@mikekyut don't be pikon mangatwiran ka ng tuwid hindi baluktot. are you saying that the scripture is false? fear GOD my friend.
eriesal 1 year ago
@eriesal ...We do not worship Mary, we honor her, just as Jesus honors her. So, there is absolutely nothing wrong, from a scriptural point of view, in calling Mary the Queen of Heaven, and in honoring her just as Jesus honors her.
JtM5651 1 year ago
@eriesal And there is a true Queen of Heaven, we see this quite clearly in Revelation 12:1, "And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars..." Let's see. There's a woman...she's in Heaven...and she has a crown on her head. I could be wrong, but I don't think it's the maid! No! It is the true Queen of Heaven, Mary, the mother of the male child who is to rule the nations.
JtM5651 1 year ago
@JtM5651 sa revelation meron din halimaw sa dagat? pero di naman talaga un halimaw sa dagat.. hahaha.. literal na literal ka eheh
kawasakifury 1 year ago
@eriesal ...Again, the fact that there is a false "queen of heaven", does not lead to the conclusion that we worship a false goddess when we call Mary the "Queen of Heaven." Just as the fact that there is a false "god", does not lead to the conclusion that we worship a false god when we call our Father in Heaven, God...
JtM5651 1 year ago
@eriesal That type of thinking would lead you to believe that just because people worship a false god that they call "god," we, therefore, should not call the true God, by that same name...God...because that's the same title the idolaters use for their god! That is faulty logic and it makes no sense whatsoever.
JtM5651 1 year ago
@eriesal In Jeremiah 7:18, God is indeed upset with the Israelites for worshipping a false goddess called the "queen of heaven". However, just because God rebuked them for worshipping the false queen of heaven, doesn't mean that we cannot pay honor to the true Queen of Heaven...the Blessed Mother.
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JtM5651 1 year ago
@MrEriesal As Catholics, we pray that we can respond to God’s call to holiness for our lives in the way that Mary did...
JtM5651 1 year ago
@MrEriesal Mary is the most beautiful model of total submission to the will of God. Catholics do not view Mary as equal to Christ, but rather venerate Mary because of her relationship to Christ. The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains, “Mary’s role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it” (CCC 964).
JtM5651 1 year ago
@MrEriesal Catholics believe that worship is due to God alone. Catholics do, however, venerate Mary. In other words, we honor our Blessed Mother with great reverence and devotion because she is the Mother of God...
JtM5651 1 year ago
++++= VIva LA vergin DE penafrancia,,, milagrosong INA dyaN sa BICOLANDIA,, alaM NTin NA very DEVOTION TLaga ANG bicolaNO pIPOL im A bicolANO 2 im a CHOIR in mANILa.... I BILIEVE that the virgen is ano milagroso tlaga bilive that so nagkakaisa tau bcause there so many pipol go in that celebration ..im ask u virgin mary to guide the all devotionist that go in his celebration every 3rd week of sept .godbless
bHabykiEth 3 years ago
marhay pa kamo...
romanotolini 3 years ago
viva la virgen....yaon ako dian nung sept.20,2008....
maryrosecoico 3 years ago
viva"!!.
LiL13GaBrIeL13 3 years ago