I am sure I've seen one coming over the city of Gouda, The Netherlands, in the summer of 2007, at 600 feet. The sound is the same. I always thought it was a new design and loved it.
Actually, it is only a couple of knots with the weight -- take away the weight, and we might save some speed/tires on landing. You are correct that it was around 2500 lbs of added weight when all was said and done.
The orig. spec was a 350 KTAS aircraft, FL410, sub 12,500 lbs, and 2500 nm best range aircraft. What we ended up with was a 337 KTAS, FL410 (and we are very slow up there), 14,900 lbs MTOW, and 1250 nm on a good day.
We really don't need flaps -- that was an FAA thing. Our flaps only come down 7 degress, change landing speed by 5 to 10 knots depending on weight, and only change takeoff roll by about 200 feet. They're pretty worthless in my opinion.
I have read that. I read if the weight of the flaps was taken away the landing speed may only be a few knots difference. I also read they beefed the frame up and that increased the original design by 2500 lb.
Would of been a much nicer machine in it's original config. Could probably certify it theses days as the original design.
I thought Beech bought all remaining units & destroyed them a few years back(flying magazine from maybe 2003??). Good to know a few are still out there.
Raytheon never bought any of them back -- big misunderstanding in the aviation community. Most Starships were leased, and when they came in on lease maturity, that is when RAC got em. There are 5 flying, and we have a 6th that is complete minus engines that legally could go back into the air.
It is a rare type rating to have these days. It's been awhile since a Starship was over in the UK or on the continent. Currently, there are only 5 of these operating in the world. We have another one that is complete minus engines -- so, potentially, there could be 6 flying.
Love the plane. WOuld love to see on in the Houston area.....hint (IAH) hint....lol.
DRadioflyer 10 months ago
Thanks for the great vid of a (sadly) rare bird!
AckbarsFist 2 years ago
Love that plane! Thanks for posting.
Oread54 2 years ago
I am sure I've seen one coming over the city of Gouda, The Netherlands, in the summer of 2007, at 600 feet. The sound is the same. I always thought it was a new design and loved it.
flexyco 2 years ago
Actually, it is only a couple of knots with the weight -- take away the weight, and we might save some speed/tires on landing. You are correct that it was around 2500 lbs of added weight when all was said and done.
The orig. spec was a 350 KTAS aircraft, FL410, sub 12,500 lbs, and 2500 nm best range aircraft. What we ended up with was a 337 KTAS, FL410 (and we are very slow up there), 14,900 lbs MTOW, and 1250 nm on a good day.
atlantisaviation 2 years ago
@atlantisaviation Wow... original specs were pretty attractive! It's still a pretty damn beautiful bird you got here...
SpidMovie 8 months ago
Yeah other than the problem designing flaps in the Cans, they certainly make me want to build a simple one running off 50 horses.
mjok2004 3 years ago
We really don't need flaps -- that was an FAA thing. Our flaps only come down 7 degress, change landing speed by 5 to 10 knots depending on weight, and only change takeoff roll by about 200 feet. They're pretty worthless in my opinion.
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
I have read that. I read if the weight of the flaps was taken away the landing speed may only be a few knots difference. I also read they beefed the frame up and that increased the original design by 2500 lb.
Would of been a much nicer machine in it's original config. Could probably certify it theses days as the original design.
mjok2004 3 years ago
I thought Beech bought all remaining units & destroyed them a few years back(flying magazine from maybe 2003??). Good to know a few are still out there.
nocotton 3 years ago
Raytheon never bought any of them back -- big misunderstanding in the aviation community. Most Starships were leased, and when they came in on lease maturity, that is when RAC got em. There are 5 flying, and we have a 6th that is complete minus engines that legally could go back into the air.
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
Very cool -- excellent company with a great aircraft (PC-12).
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
I saw 8244L just last week. Snapped a few photos.
When I was younger (23 now) I lived in Madison MS and used to regularly see the -2000 based there. Never knew how rare this aircraft is until recently
ifiweresolucky 3 years ago
Where are ya at now?
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
I live in Atlanta and am based out of PDK. Fly PC-12's for Plane Sense.
ifiweresolucky 3 years ago
What a wicked aircraft. Dont see many around especially here in the UK but i would love so much to get a rating on one
JackerNo2 3 years ago
It is a rare type rating to have these days. It's been awhile since a Starship was over in the UK or on the continent. Currently, there are only 5 of these operating in the world. We have another one that is complete minus engines -- so, potentially, there could be 6 flying.
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
If ya got it, flaunt it! ;)
atlantisaviation 3 years ago
Showoff!
;-)
jmaugham 3 years ago