Chi-Sao (The Real !!!) http://www.lmkwingchun.eu/

[jimi1234567]

i learned with lo Man for 4 years and he taught me a lot. I have nothing bad to say about Sifu.

[cornwallgeezer]

Sorry but I have studied wing chun with him in Taiwan and no disrespect but please stop name dropping that he is IP's nephew. It doesn't mean his wing chun will be good because he's related! Yeah he studied for a while but the wing chun is not good fact!

[dynamho]

The person on the right continually violates wingchun tenets. I don't know if he's intentionally doing it to train the person on the left, but he continuously drops his hands creating gigantic holes in his defense, ie, between 19 and 20 second marker, he drops his left hand.

[Calimantalkin]

@dynamho I saw that. the guy on the left is faster and waits on the other guy a few times. Still good footage.

[yiquanbytc]

good wauw 

[JVThrillz]

Good excercise. Unfortunately the fighters of "today" no longer play patty-cake so Wing Chun had to evolve from this. Then again, it doesn't hurt to keep the traditions alive.

[pauldomino]

Nice this has been captured, great example of great skill ! I dont think it is Wong Shun Leung on the left.

[TheDiseaseDevil]

oh, was that wong shun leung on the left??? ive always tried to see him in action :)

[papertiger7]

@TheDiseaseDevil It's definitely not Wong Shun Leung.

[awakenedstream]

interesting chisao with no footwork. i guess every lineage has a different definition of the purpose of certain drills.

[Nogardj]

:)

[SIROFNOBLERECORDS]

I could watch this a trillion times

[kernkraft77]

già, ho guardato meglio in effetti...è come dici tu.. soprattutto sulla centrale ...non mi intendo molto di wc e per niente di chi sao... ma non rispondi alla domanda pratichi wc? di che lineage?

[kernkraft77]

@kokojo74 a te si un poco mona setu(con rispetto parlando)?..non sono colpi è un esercizio per il contatto con l'avversario... come tutte le arti marziali anche questa ha i suoi esercizi di pratica! tu cosa pratichi invece?

[kokojo74]

@kernkraft77 più a contatto mi sembrano alquanto scollegati, instabili e rigidi..il ché si vede benissimo. Inoltre non si capisce bene dove sia la linea centrale, ma di sicuro non sull'avversario...e per concludere nel vingtsun non si fanno esercizi di pratica tanto per muovere le mani, ma mettendo in atto i principi in ogni movimento.

[darkmuetz]

@Samtex2660 You talk to much, learn some respect. Come to Taiwan your welcome to show your skills with a student of master lo. If you would have a idee master lo man kam's chi sao you would not write such a disrespect full comment.

[tatar1973]

wong shun leung

was a real bare knuckle fighter!!

and his student barry lee yo what he do is

real chi sao & real yip man ving tsun bro´s

asked your sifus ;-)) thats true

[basstip]

i ve got the whole video

[xxdjcharlierockxx]

this was the best video ive seen for this drill! notice there just outside of striking distance.and there doing the drill at a speed that is comprehensible to both of them! to many times ive seen this done so fast the other cant keep up and winds up getting hit! this is suppose to be a drill for 2 people so they both learn and you can actually see them learning! it's like there feeding off of each other...im new to wing chun so welcome any corrections in my comments.

ty for putting this up!

[JamesLCBurgess]

You are absolutely correct - if done too quickly the section loses its meaning. Its a drill, and in essence should be trained in the same way as a form (Siu Nim Tao, Tsum Kiu, Biu Tse, Mok Yang Jong). The rythum of the section is the most vital element. The section is to rmember movements. To remove one to three elements from them and train them against a real attack is an application that must be trained quickly. Chi Sao means "sticking hands" so the art is how you break this contact to attack.

[xikanatele]

@JamesLCBurgess are you doing WingChun :)

[JamesLCBurgess]

Absolutely. Chi Sao is commonly mis-conceived as resolutely requiring hands to stick all the time by many WingChun systems, but this is incorrect as the movements (Tan Sao, Bong Sao, etc.) are there to defend you and are therefore do not require to stick to your opponent as this distorts their shape and therefore there ability to be used for defending one's self.

[AWCKF]

This is lead or guided chi sao

[Nogardj]

Lo Man Kam Wing Chun Kung Fu. Right hand side: Master Lo Man Kam

[heartslord]

Very good kung fu. Interestingly with no more data, this could easily be Hsing Yi or some other kung fu as the hand is withdrawn each time and pulled back before re-interacting. So, this could be a dedicated exercise but isn't really chi sao as again VT/WC doesn't remove and reestablish contact,once contact is made, even blindfolded you would have complete awareness and control of partner movements.

Looks good. Not part of typical chi sao exercises & not "chi sao" but could b used for same.

[smokinthepot]

@heartslord you do realise in this video is yip mans nephew if anyone is defining what defines good chi sao its them not you.

[heartslord]

Respect is a good thing. My comments are meant to be constructive. Also, I go by the physics of Ving Tsun. Hydrogen has a proton with an electron orbiting around it. That doesn't change and can be measured. So can the physics of kung fu.

Thank you for pointing out the family relationship. My nephew doesn't know kung fu but I hope noone will challenge him if he makes a video.

[xikanatele]

@heartslord well thats a rule you learned but should not be imposed on the rest of the "Wing Chun" world. everyone has a different training idea for a similar art but not same and not universal each is almost its own style/system. not to disrespect your idea but to introduce multiple ideas. some learn to stick some learn to unstick. really whatever works in a real combat situation.

[Nynthisio]

@heartslord Idd, I see what your point is there, but you would have to admit, wasn't it for the fact that he withdraw his hand after every action, that it sure looks a hell like Chi Sao? :)

[heartslord]

@Nynthisio

It's definitely chisao, cept that break contact, cross over the center, trap their own hands, use sidways energy, overextend (locked arms) and more. God bless em and all that, it's just not good chisau.

[FreshPrince272]

yeah this is nice! that is how we start to learn chi sao!

[ViribusUnitis1981]

yep this face looks familiar.....the movements as well

[ArcticFyre]

Good