On Power, Dissent and Racism-Noam Chomsky (5/6)

[f4ust85]

the end of western civilization comes with postmodern jewish intellectuals who started doubting the moral aspects of world power of "their own" country. by the way its amazing to hear of "american dissent", for 50 years eastern european dissidents wished that the US bombed or invaded us, finally :-)

[WastedTourist]

Bigoted Catholic scum.

[waddellwon]

Shame Chomsky and other anarchists for that matter have such a fascination with states and do not seriously consider the posibility of the study of other types of transnational criminal enterprises?

Would sure help to hear the full freaky JFK secret society conspiracy shit from Noam instead of all this judeao-waspo-legalistic-centri­cism (or whatever)... okay I'm talking shit and it is an old video but does he really believe the guy in the cave did it?

[optimistsRUS]

@waddellwon,

Do you mean that Chomsky is hiding from the the information that JFK was killed because he wanted to end the wars, end the terrorism against Cuba, Vietnam et al and leave Vietnam and let its people decide what they wanted to do?

JFK didn't want to end the wars, he authorized Bay of pigs invasion, he escalated Vietnam war and he didn't want to leave Vietnam before "winning against the communists". Eisenhower said that if elections were allowed 80% Vietnamese will choose Ho Chi Minh.

[optimistsRUS]

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JFK's Croncite Interview, Sep 1963.

"I don't think that unless a greater effort is made by the Government to win popular support that the war can be won out there. In the final analysis, it's their war, they are the ones who have to win it or lose it. We can help them, we can give them equipment, we can send our men out there as advisers, but they have to win it, the people of Vietnam against the Communists."

[optimistsRUS]

@waddellwon (contd)

"That's my hope that this will become increasingly obvious to the government (of Vietnam) that they would take steps to try to bring back popular support for this very essential struggle."

"...in the final analysis it's the people in the government themselves that will have to win or lose this struggle, all we can do is help, and we make it very clear. But I don't agree with those who say we should withdraw, that'd be a great mistake, that'd be a great mistake!"

[optimistsRUS]

@waddellwon,

More evidence on JFK - Vietnam:

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Chomsky's response on JFK and Vietnam:

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JFK want to withdraw but not without victory. Even Hitler wanted to end the war but after victory. JFK's language was no different than George Bush or Barrack Obama, that we must defeat _____ and the people of ____ have to win the war and that to withdraw from ____ will be a mistake. Fill in the blanks with Communists / Extremists / Terrorists and Vietnam / Afghanistan / Iraq.

[DukeMcManhands]

@waddellwon what in the fuck are you saying?

[wilberteric]

Chomsky is my hero.

[cincin3x]

good explainaination of antisemitism which goes on in U.S.

[raist2]

Thank you! Keep up the fight Noam!

[b4skin]

So...if superimposed within ANY other governmental rule (country) can you say he would be supportive/understanding of that system.I think he would rail against ANY countries gov't/system and I do think RIGHTLY SO, but then the question becomes(surely Lesser-of-2-evils)but also 'rightly' so given human behavior,--just which system allows for dissention (at least did before "patriot act")..are there some gov't bodies which would suppress the watching/posting/blogging of this interview??

[litguy3]

I hope all people are like you -- I do respect Jews because you are a Jew ....

[corryton]

"They'll go to the limits...when authorized by the chief Mafia don..." Right on, Noam, right on.

[vicnameless]

incredibly well read man.

[westphalianprinz]

This is really good.