Circlemakers pt1 of 18 (3hour!) documentary

[patricksk1123]

Wouldn't it be really hard and take a really long time? unless you had a huge crew in which a lot can go wrong

[truthseekers666]

@patricksk1123 yes ofcourse a lot of effort is involved. If your doing a very complex design you wouldnt take out beginners as its too risky they will make a big mistake. However mistakes can be covered up with stuff so you dont notice they werent intentional. Yes a lot can and has gone wrong in many circles, its just that most people dont spot what we consider mistakes. Sometimes even horrid balls up circles are considered wonderful by researchers because of their imperfections. Go figure.

[dave00dance]

these crop circle guys get laid all the time

[truthseekers666]

@dave00dance have you been watching... im gonna check my place for cameras... hehe

[eddybboy]

if these bastards circle makers do not stop looking man as we know the truth? are balanced if crop circles are made by UFOs or children ..... real bastards, I want to know the truth and now I broke to be teased

[truthseekers666]

@eddybboy Whos teasting you, the circlemakers or the researchers who dont tell you the truth on this subject. I am not pulling any tricks on you im telling its people. The researchers are telling you its UFOs. So who exactly has "tricked" you... me/us/circlemaker or the researchers. Thats the question you need to be asking my friend.

[truthseekers666]

@TheSuperDead Well we cant be sure that one or two circles have ever been "real" but the likelyhood is very much against it. Besides why do these circles appear flattened by the same human methods if that were the case. I have no evidence military have ever been involved making circles. Ghost circles are nothing to d with the military.

[truthseekers666]

@TheSuperDead Yes indeed we are painted in a very unfair light and researchers lie about us regularly in an attempt to demonise us. This year has seen people yet again claiming we are violent and suggesting that we are threatening researchers and even some suggestion we might be breaking into peoples cars and posting fake "honesty boxes2 for payment for visiting circles. There is no low level that researchers will not stoop to in order to make people dislike us.

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem Also in a reply to an comment which doesnt seem to have appeared here?!? You say "or is this like belief in GOD, just faith? " well for most believers in crop circles it is a faith because they take the words and experiences of others and then believe. Most people dont research or look for the truth. Its what they want to believe. If you were here in the UK and were looking for the truth of who makes circles you could find out in a week I assure you. You could even be out making one!

[LiquidChem]

@truthseekers666 So then Im right, it is only a belief that all crop circles are man made, and there is in fact no evidence to support this. Thank you.

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem No its not a blief crop circles are man made. We make crop circles so we know that we make them, we dont have a belief in it, we know it as fact. The believers are the researchers and public who misinterpret circles as made by "aiens" etc.

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem no, its the vids that get blatted by the phrases "you wanker" "c***t" "why dont you die" etc... that need approval because it gets a bit boring reading that all the time. People get ooooh very very, lets think of a word... ah yes... UPSET by learning the truth that circles are made by people and then decide to get vengeful with their comments. Thats why SOME not all of the vids on here are comment by approval only ;-) Besides youve done quite well, so stoooooop complaining ;-)))

[LiquidChem]

@truthseekers666 ok.. but I wasnt complaining, just seeking evidence! take care

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem if you have sensible questions to ask which havent been dealt with before I am happy to answer them, im just in a mood at the mo because so many people are blatting the same old questiosn again and again.

[hellzone100]

Does anyone remember the phoenix lights ?

[1jenniene]

you twats need locking up, admiting to damaging crops,, arnt you clever,, NOT,, ,its not about art,, its about deception and you think its ok,,,, Wrong,, get a canvas and sign it ,,,SEE YOU NEXT TUESDAY<<<<<

[truthseekers666]

@1jenniene ever heard of Banksy... doh

[3epitide]

Great docco!

Looking forward to seeing the rest of the series.

[EartherZero]

This is great stuff. Thanks for posting. I point people to this series often. I am constantly amazed at the number of people who just cannot accept that crop circles are man-made.

[truthseekers666]

Well if i can get my arse into gear im going to do a Circlemakers2 which will feature a much more diverse and underground bunch of circlemakers.

[truthseekers666]

You make a strange point. I agree that making circles is for other peoples benefit and these people I dont know and many of them I probably wouldnt even like. Still making the circle is to try and make people more aware of other things and get people thinking. I dont really want to know them or love them just alter their ways of thinking.

[jc2k301]

This isn't proof. I got done watching all of your videos and it was a waste of 3 hours I can never have back, thank you for basically ass fucking a straight guy for 3 hours, you video rapist!

[truthseekers666]

Well sorry you feel that way. If you cant handle the truth and dont want to see the types of people who make crop circles I cant help you.

[jc2k301]

What you dont understand is that this isnt proof, they do not show them actually making the crop circles, they only tell a bullshit story. When your very own family has had a crop circle incident, come back and reply to me, but until then do not present this to us unless it has actual backed up proof other than drawings and people who "say" they made crop circles.

[truthseekers666]

@jc2k301 ive had crop circle "incidents" whilst making crop circles, so have other circlemakers. Everyone is part of the magic, its just that the source of the circles is people, the inspiration, who knows that may come from somewhere else because something wants people to make circles and others to be attracted to them so that they can have strange experiences. Humans making circles is what it is about... and its not negative because as you say, youve had an experience. So there you go.

[LiquidChem]

@jc2k301 I also have not yet been able to find any proof that these guys are doing what they say, and obviously, they cannot be all over the world all at one time, as there are crop circles that appear all over the globe! SOMEONE SHOW SOME ACTUAL EVIDENCE!!!

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem There has been pleanty to evidence overthe years of TV crews coming out with us... but what you and others seem to demand is that we prove ourselves to each individual like yourself before youll be happy. Thats not going to happen, unless you pay for a farmers field to do it legally, otherwise enjoy the circles for what they are and benefot from the wierdnes that surrounds them.

[ejbh3160]

LOL... I know about this subject!

you really don't honestly expect people to believe you can make several complex geometric patterns in less than an hour??

If people really believe ALL the circles are MAN made.. then people are even more dumb than I realised!

[truthseekers666]

Please view all my videos and then comment. You need to be a researcher to make such statements, not just someone who watches Tv shows.

[ejbh3160]

sorry.. I was born on a farm & I know about crops!

I've seen designs in Rapeseed which is tall & very messy to work in. You simply can't make these designs in such short amounts of time without any trace of entry or exit & walk away looking 'normal'. You would be covered in yellow shite from head to foot & it ain't easy to get off.

& BTW I don't need to be anything you tell me I need to be.. My 'opinion' is just as 'valid' as yours.

& whilst 'some' are clearly man made.. others CLEARLY are NOT!

[truthseekers666]

Ok ive alowed this comment because you make some valid points but it still doesnt change things. Yes rapeseed is hard to work in and plants snap and yellow pollen gets all over you. This doesnt stop circlemakersd using it because its the earliest crop thet appears in a UK season. You say some clearly are not man made. How can you state this when you dont know circlemakers. I know these people so I know what appears and that is far more valid than a belief they cant be made by people.

[LiquidChem]

@truthseekers666 Im just saying, if you think its the truth, then couldnt you easily show some evidence? or is this like belief in GOD, just faith? If I saw something that led me to believe this to be true, then I would change my mind, but I dont know of anything that can explain away all the crop circles. many of them are just unexplainable. I havent seen a bit of evidence, it has nothing to do with "making me happy" if you claim something is true, you should be able to back it up is all.

[truthseekers666]

@LiquidChem Well is it my fault you cant watch our videos and keep track of when we do stuff for TV? You want proof then pay for a field and we will make you one right infront of your eyes in the dark. Thats probably the only proof you would accept.

[truthseekers666]

@ejbh3160 If you really knew about this subject then you would know me, probably personally and we would have met and chatted and I would have probably offered to show you a circle being made. The fact that none of the above applies means you are an outside observer with opinions not facts and dont know as much about this subject as you like to think you do. Sorry for being blunt but circles are made by people, you are talking to one who has the criminal record to prove it.

[ejbh3160]

@truthseekers666

yawn... take your ego out of the equasion & maybe we can 'discuss' this. But your 'censorship' makes that rather difficult.. so whats the point?

Why are you hassling me 10 months after I made the comment?

I'm not interested in your criminal record... and wearing it like a badge doesn't impress me. Your 'straw man' argument is simply ridiculous & proves nothing about OTHER circles (even IF you went around damaging crops)

We're done

[truthseekers666]

@ejbh3160 well take your ego out to in stating you know more than me and can tell me I am wrong. I dont know you, you have no standing in the community of crop circle research yet I am wrong and you are right. Bzzzzzzt. Sorry buster my ego comes with knowing im right by being out there and making my voice so loudly heard that yes i got arrested for it. Are you so determined to make your point that you are known in any way apart from my chan comments? Just wondering. And yes I have an ego ;-)

[ejbh3160]

@truthseekers666 yawn... why are you starting this ridiculous banter again after 10 months.. have you got nothing better to do that pester people on-line or go round getting arrested for damaging people's crops? Get a life FFS!

And yes I'm known in my community... but not for vandalism.

And yes I've noticed your ego...

like I said... yawn

[juliasix]

Truthseeker.

You really want to convince people that you are responsible for the crop circles then tells us what the next crop circle that appears will look like ??? posted 01-07-2009

[truthseekers666]

@juliasix Thats been done and got me arrested and jailed then taken to court and given criminal record and fined. So no thanks... unless its paid for and legal that idea doesnt work as its been tried.

[truthseekers666]

You idiot. Look at my Longwood Warren formation and the demo in New Zealand. Do those look like made by children! Grrrr. Im going to ignore your idiottic comments now because your not doing any research and just mouthing off on a subject you dont know anything about.

[iosballodasola]

why the most interesting videos are all in english!!!??? :'( I can't undestand perfectly..

[truthseekers666]

Sorry I wishes we could translate into other languages. If anyoen wanted to do subtitles for the videos I would reupload to youtube. I could send whoever DVDs to allow them to do this if they wished. We are nonprofit so couldnt pay it would have to be voluntary.

[1seer]

Do you really believe that ALL the formations that have appeared over the years were physicallly made by people like you?

I know that many have been but certainly not all.

[truthseekers666]

Have you watched the videos on my channel. I think the answer you seek is clearly stated in there. No there are some formations, usually the simple circles that we cannot explain. Who knows who does these. This could be the original phenomena. Researchers arent interested in simple circles anymore. They only want the man made complex pictograms.

[pandorawake]

Truthseeker. I am blown away by this film.

Standing in the middle of a huge renegade natural art installation doing tai chi works for me!

You are serving the highest function of artists on this planet.Sans gallery (institutional) walls.

I'm in awe... I wonder who did PI a couple of months ago? WOW!

[mellosa84]

Do you know who the Black Watch is? How did they know they were making crop circles- was that after they went public that they got those threats?

[truthseekers666]

Yes I do know who black watch was and I didnt really approve of what they did. They got these threats only after going public.

[sugsun]

this is a big lie, u want the credits of the things u dont do! there are a video of balls of light doing that, or that was u, fliyng inside the balls? no man can do crop circles like i have seen were in youtube, u dont have so many hours for a so complexe and mathematic thing. a bit of video? i can do that to, but not a entire one... be shame of yourself and go take care of your grandchildren!!!

[truthseekers666]

You are a big lie, you want to talk about things you know nothing about. Perhaps it was unknown paranormal events casuing the balls of light near circles, we dont deny they are there. I dont like children thanks, yeuch! I am not ashamed of what we do, because you and everyone else have been loving it for years, just as long as you think aliens made them.

[jamierourketen]

how do you make the very complicated designs? and why dont you ever video yourselves making them,that would make a lot of sense! but you never show it being done! i dont mean this old duffer and his little circles,i'm talking about the major designs.dont answer with a silly quote,put a video up! and if you have to,wear a mask.

[truthseekers666]

We have filmed ouirselves making thenm. Theres a little bit of that footage in thius video. We are going to put some more up soon. We have to remain anonymous if the farmers not paid for the field as its illegal. We make the designs by planning it on paper (rarely do we use computers) and then we scale up the distanmces so we can use our tape measures in the field. We Measure distances and triangulate other measurements in the field. Lines are done with our feet. Filling is done with boards.

[jamierourketen]

so the farmer loses vast amounts of money from the crops you destroy! just so as you can play at being aliens!?¿?¿?¿? try this,count the amount of fields youve wasted,work out the tonnage of wheat etc,then work out the price in lost revenue.tens of thousands of pounds? surely a jail sentence!

[truthseekers666]

crops are worth about 10-100 quid. Hardly crime of the century. Besides, clever farmer put someone of the field to charge entry, and make thousands. We know of one farmer who made 4 grand in 2 weeks. Much more than the value of the crop. One must not be negative about this and see the positive sides.

[truthseekers666]

The reason we dont video ourselves making the "unknown" and "unsigned" circles is because we dont tend to claim authorhsip for specific circles, thats what makes crop circles a unique form of art, the unknown nature of who made them. We do film demo circles made where we tell people immediately afterwards they were man made. Besides we dont want to put faces on film making illegal formations. You get arrested for that. Its best people guess if they know what makes them. We help give clues.

[satinstar888]

Hi truthseekers666, it's good to know you have an open mind about ufos and the paranormal. Crop circles still get my interest whether or not they are man-made. I'm pretty sure alot of people like myself believe there are some that can't be explained.

[bbkingdom]

So, all you circlemakers are pretty good. I never see a fuckup circle, I never see you practice, I never see you do it and I never heard a circle being claimed.

I am the high priest of Honolulu and I say: all you base are belong to us

[truthseekers666]

We do make screw ups, but most peoples eyes arent attuned to see them. Often thes look like they were intentional as we end up covering them in ways that obscure the mistake. Besides there are plenty of mistakes in circles if you just have a circlemaker point them out to you.

[farmersboydorset]

hi,

Can i ask about the East Field formation of last summer (2007).

In an interview in another video you give the impression that the circle makers arrived in the field at 10pm. In a article on Lucy Pringle's site a man parked in the silage pit says he saw a car unload 4 people who went into the field at about 10.30pm. Were there more than those 4 involved and did some of them get into the field before the others?

[truthseekers666]

There were about 8 people involved. I will have to ask because I forget what I was told now. I Think a few people came in from walking up from the bottom of the West Stowell road end, and some drove up. The driver of the vehicle was meant to be in the field helping but came back and couldnt find the team working in the field so went off to return in the morning to pick up the team. We all thought he was skiving off, but he said he couldnt find the circlemaker in the field. Hehe.

[revstang]

This is GREAT! Post the next 17 episodes PLEASE!

Praise Dave & Doug! And "Bob"!

[truthseekers666]

the rest are up there just search on circlemakers or truthseekers666

[truthseekers666]

When you say paranormal crop circles... the ones humans make attract paranormal effects and people have cameras damaged in man made circles. However if what you refer to are the ones not made by humans... well those would be the simple circles, not the complicated pictograms . Most researchers arent interested in simple circles anymore and prefer to go chasing after complicated designs and think this means they are made by aliens etc, just becauyse they are complicated.

[alpha445]

1. Can you explain the flighing orbs?

2. Do you now if the alien face or the alien response cirles are proven fake?

3. What is your theory about the paranormal crop circles?

[truthseekers666]

I have wondered if orbs are spirit forms or thoughtforms.

The Alien face hasnt been proven fake as it is a n unclaimed circle... ie no team has publically owned up to it. Do I know more, possibly but I cant say. WOuld I say it could be made by people... yes I would.

[Slingblade420]

Hmm, I think crop circles made by people damage the plants. If you can explain and show a video of how you create crop circles via bending the plants without breaking them and share that information with the world then you'll have your proof that all circles are man made.

[truthseekers666]

Sure thing. The answer is simple but you wont like it. The blants are broken and researchers lie about this and state they are not broken or damaged. We dont do any magical stuff when making circles that keeps plants pristine. However researchers can go into our formations and claim all sorts of wierd stuff going on. Ask them, as they are the disseminatos of false information, not us. Check out the term Phototropism also for how the plants grow back towards the sun.

[TheSmokingNug]

great documentary...cheers.

[truthseekers666]

If you like the video please vote and also pass on to your friends who may not know about it.

[Djosepa2z]

As a circle maker yourself, I would like to ask you a few questions:

1) What is the absolute mininmun amount of time you are able to make or create an elaborate crop circle?

2)The team comprising the circle makers are usually how many people?

[truthseekers666]

We made circles by day and night shown in the video. What more do you want. We are the circlemakers!

[Djosepa2z]

As a circle maker yourself, I like to ask you a few questions:

1) what is the minimum amount of time you can make or create an elaborate crop circle? Can an elaborate crop circle be made in less than an hour?

2)The average team of circle makers is comprised of usually how many people?

3)Do you feel all crop circles are man-made?

4)Are most of your crop circles in fields that are close to main roads or streets?

[truthseekers666]

hi,

1. starting when it gets dark about 10pm and finishing at around 4am when it gets light or if theres mist or fog you can work into daylight.

2. Teams usually minimum of 2 but normally 3 people up to 20 people, which is uncommon.

3. Most circles are man made. Simple circles may the original paranormal phenomena.

4. Many circles are places where they can be seen from nearby road or overlooking hills but some are out in countryside and can only be seen from the air.