Though I don't like this piece I have found that Xanakis did in fact give credit to his folk influences at other times so I don't find him to be a bullshitter anymore.
When Sunday, December 18, 2011 Time 6:00pm until 7:30pm
Description
Greenwich House and New Spectrum are pleased and honored to present a celebration of Iannis Xenakis, who passed 10 years ago this month. There is a similar event taking place in Athens on the 14th; we are giving you time to make it back from that.
To all you fake gaytarded dipshits who think I'm "out of my depth", judging from a glance at my Youtube channel and being completely ignorant of my real works, you will have your foot in your mouth when my books on Polytonal theory, nondiatonic scalar theory, and refutation of Decartes come out. You are way out of YOUR depth and seek to appear cultured and intelligent yet have no idea of what what that really means and therefore try shoot down every innovative mind in your prescence.
What I mean by Descartes refutation is that nobody has been able to prove the existence of the outside world philisophically, only the thinker. It's been 400 years and nobody's done it.
@intervalkid LOL at you and your "I am an avant garde musician"! Khachaturian and Bartok? Really? And you scoff at Xenakis. Your comments here (and your channel) expose you as a fraud and a phoney. Fuck off mate. You're using the wrong French term to describe yourself. "Dilettante" is what you're after.
Calling me a dillettante is such a contradiction and mockery of reality that you will have to have your foot surgically removed from your mouth. A dilettante is what they train you to be in college, except in every subject instead of just art. They call it general ed. Go kiss your professors ass and let real artists do their work. I am almost certainly the most dedicated and genuine artist you have ever had the blessing to have even tertiary contact with.
I came across this.... I know the history with maths connected to the composers music but don't get it! I am wondering what is going through the musicians' head, or what he is feeling? What is it about the maths? Is he hitting such different frequencies at an optimal point for that frequency or what the fuck is going on here???
@noddymoran He plays, just like anyone else would. Nobody plays music and solves partial differential equations every second or something.
He has his own interpretation though and another person playing this will make it sound different (same order of notes, etc, but different character). I personally prefer a much more dramatic interpretation but everyone has their own. You should listen to "Rebonds" as well by the same composer
@noddymoran Basically when connecting math with music, you usually look at notelengths, these can be arrived on in a number of ways. Using series and a preset value for example(one value meaning another type of "full" note value or another preset of your liking. That can also be done with notefrequencies(pitches) by the same or different inventive ideas. Xenakis used the 12tone system some too which is when you use all 12 chromatic notes before reusing any of them once(in any order you like).
@noddymoran Xenakis is nutorious for having used a lot of randomness in his music, which can be done in any number of ways. It doesn't mean it's totally devoid of emotion though but as I see it xenakis was a very special type of scientific composer who above all enjoyed watching what happened if he used different algorithms to choose his note orders, tonal structure, rhythmical qualities and so on. Great composer.
This shit is ridiculous. Get ANY talented drummer and give him those sticks and those drums and he could improvise something so much better than this. It's not even comparable.
I don't care how he wrote it. It doesn't sound good or impressive at all. I could assign letters A-G including sharps to hexadecimal and do computations based on a hybrid of calculus and vectors and come up with a bunch of notes like that (also similarly with rhythms) and it would still sound like shit. I don't care how "intellectual" it seems. There is such a thing as psuedo-intellectual.
I wasn't talking about the music sounding intellectual but rather the explanation of how he wrote it.
Don't tell me that his process of writing this isn't intellectualized when he bases most of his work on oriental folk music, using mathematical and philisophical explanations to gain peoples interest and hide the sources.
Cop out. Don't fucking bullshit motherfucker!!! I am an avant guard musician. I just expect a little fucking honesty. If you get ideas from folk music; admit it. Don't sit there and act like you had some esoteric mathematical method. I know musicians that actually do use mathematical and philisophical methods, but this clearly doesn't.
You're an avant-guard musician and you don't recognize his pioneering work in electronic music since the early 50s??
The fact that you say that he is ""using mathematical and philisophical explanations to GAIN PEOPLES INTEREST and HIDE the sources"" it's absurd and I'm being polite unlike you...
His music is appreciated through time by the best musicians in the world ... but not from you.
I am a composer and I recognize when other composers are bullshitting. It's like Andy Warhol. Inferior work that nobody would even give the time of day without a frippin' psuedo intellectual explaination. I am also offended because he is not giving the cultures that he barrowed from credit.
@intervalkid I have a question. When you wake up every morning do you put two spoonfuls of ignorance in your coffee or just one? I love how your offended by things you don't understand as well. Do the world a favor, if you really are a composer, go ahead and stop because you clearly do not understand music or art.
@intervalkid yes, cultural purity forever! no one can ever borrow another sound from another culture without a detailed explanation! even when it might even be a coincidence! sieg heil to the intervalkid!
@intervalkid define: "so much better". Or do you just mean you would like it more? Here's a hint, stop trying to make "objective" criticisms of things when the real problem is that, at the end of the day, you just happen to not enjoy it but are afraid to be so forthcoming (i.e. that your criticism is subjective). You don't like it. That's okay. Just quit trying to justify it.
Well....You can bullshit and accuse me of being "afraid to be so forthcoming (i.e that your criticism is subjective)" pffftt!!! What kind of pretensious nonesense is that? Whose not being forthcoming Dickhead? That isn't even a proper sentence. Forthcoming has nothing to do with realizing things you fucking gaytard. Obviously you aren't talking about what you say you are talking about. What the fuck does forthcoming have to do with anything here?
I think, since the advent of the proposal to integrate "pro-gay" corriculum into our elementary schools (before sex ed even) and the fact that parents aren't allowed to know about their 6 year old children getting condoms from the school councillor (since the hate crimes bill), it is passed the point that we can just shrug and say that every argument againt perversion is just paranoia.
Did you just recently realize that when someone states their opinion about something that it isn't the LAW of the fucking universe? Are you that fucking stupid? What, am I supposed to state after every profference "Oh,, hehe but that's just my opinion." ? FUCK YOU!!!
You're caught up on some gay shit or something. Gay shit sucks. That aint opinion.
Okay so I'm learning piece, and I am referencing this video. Did anyone notice he skips 740- 940? I mean I realize it's live and stuff happens or is there an edit for some reason?
@WildcatDrummer8 sin ánimo de ofender, creo que no tiene usted cultura musical contemporanea, por lo que no puede disfrutar de piezas como esta que son, hoy día, clásicas. Abra su mente, busque la belleza más allá de los estereotipos culturales tópicos de nuestros días; contemple las referencias a otras edades y otras culturas, y si no posee la cultura histórica y etnólogica necesaria, dejese sugerir un viaje a otras civilizaciones y otros tiempos que también pueden ser suyos.
@xguitarxchan Well, if you had known Schick's job, you would have called this drum set pretty normal. Schick used to play... on everything, what can make a good sound. On your empty head probably too...
I remember the part where there is silence except for a really strong bass drum note every now and again. The silence is long enough so that you lose track of the timing so there's almost a fear of when the next note strike will occur.
Also I really think a piece like this has to be experienced live rather than listened to (or even watched on youtube). I saw this performed live when I was 15 and I didn't understand a thing of what was going on but was quaking in my boots for the entire thing. It's definitely a really powerful piece and the feeling you get is like being in a cinema watching a thriller as opposed to a musical.
Yes that's right, the ears just need to be opened a little.
Also I don't think the average person can't get something from this, same with other good contemporary music. You don't need to understand or be able to analyse what's going on to get something from it (which unfortunately is what many people think). All you need is an open mind and an attention span longer than 5 seconds (which many people don't have).
sure, nowadays a performance of this piece becomes about a certain kind of virtuosity, but what this particular kind of virtuosity makes shine through, in this instance, is some absolutely incredible music.
i love how nonchalant the body language is despite the intense violence and thrusts that the performer is making to achieve to achieve the correct velocity of sound = it all comes out in the music.
As a musician, percussionist even, I am extremely passionate about pleasing a crowd. It's expressing something and making other people feel it that gets me going. As a musician I see a decrease in concert-attendance(atleast in sweden), I see cuts in funding(long before the "crisis) and I see more and more debate about why contemporary music should even be supported.
Be stubborn, passionate, artsy all you want but we need to please a (larger) crowd... Or this downward spiral will only continue until all the smaller institutions have all died from lack of funding. This in turn, in the long run, will result in fewer and fewer kids actually ever hearing classical music and learning an instrument. I hope I'm wrong, time will tell... I rest my case...
Amazing achivement! But this is the kind of stuff that is going to kill classical music. Completely alienated from everything pop-culture, how is anyone "normal" going to relate to this? Ppl want something they can latch on to. Not this constant stream of strange and annoying sounds. All this work to play it by heart and only about 2-3 ppl in the room enjoyed it... Guess what? They we're prolly all percussionists, musicians or composers. Is that worth all this work?
as a musician myself, i can assure you that that guy probably doesn't care what you or anyone thinks about what he's done here. music isn't about pleasing a crowd, it's about being passionate.
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I feel the same way about this that I feel about paint-splatter paintings. I see it as mildly clever improvisation...nothing that anyone could benefit from by viewing the charts. Not exactly something my little brother could create...but a talented percussionist just messing around.
I have a concert percussion background, have been to PASIC 6 times, I don't put up with virtuous-tic pieces that put me to sleep anymore.
i don't understand the long rests, im assuming they are on beat. It seems like its forcing me to click in my head. nice bd accents though id like to see him do that while playing those metal things with his hands.haha.
I don't remember the exact details, but I read an essay connecting time relationships in this piece to Jean Piaget's findings on the limits of time-based pattern perception. I.e. after a certain length of silence it is impossible for the human mind to perceive the next event as part of a pattern.. there is much more to it then that but that is the basic concept, and should show you that the long rests are a deliberate structural and perceptual consideration.
Although Xenakis used math extensively his he ultimately made choices that were above all, human. And for you dopes who say this drummer is "pretty good" - this is Steve Schick. He is a percussionist and a living legend!
Percussive pieces like this always make me feel war-like. This drummer is cool. I want to practice my martial arts forms, yell KI-OPS, and stamp the ground with ferocity.
This performance would benefit from the performance of a good martial artists (someone eons better than I).
i really like it and i dont care about all the bad coments here !! this is a lesson of pure music out of any formalism and i ask all those who write bad coments here why no one can write like xenaki's has wrote
Have you ever heard about algorythmic composition, man? Do you think this is only inspiration? I didn't submit any judgment and you're coming with supposition about my sexual preferences?
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Just one word.. NONSENSE. This crap reminds me of some pieces of "art" at Tate museum, such as a big blue dot on a white canvas..
To me, making music from mathematic algorithms and functions is like making maths from (say) radioheads music. The end result will always be an arbitrary-chaotic-NONSENSE.
I really don't agree with you in the slightest; I believe there is a great deal of interest and pure excitement to be found with much of xenakis' music. The pure, ritualistic drive that exist within pieces like psappha and rebonds is something which I and many others find so fascinating. But, I guess, I can't argue with your opinion and you're justified to it. Just be careful with sweeping statements concerning music you may not have given enough time to consider.
I don´t know if it is in the nature of music to create such compositions. I guess every musician - including me - knows that there is the possibility to write music like that. You just don´t do it, because it is not accessible to most of the poeple out there. And in my oppinion thats where art is created - in peoples minds. It´s like writing a public letter and using your own created font so that only a very few can GUESS what you mean.
richtomes, i think you are dismissing this because all you're hearing is "play rhythm on a bunch of drums." You have to very carefully follow the rhythm, not just notice that it is there. Listen to this carefully and ask yourself questions. Where do rhythmic elements recur, and where does he introduce new ones? Which ones recur and which ones keep changing? How fast do they change? Where does the music get faster and where does it slow down? Where does it get dense and where is it very open?
Anyway, richtomes, I'm gonna let you have the next and last comment here because although you've succeeded in angering me into all of these responses, you're not worth any more of my time. Xenakis was a poopy face! He didn't write melodies I can sing in the shower! Frowny face!
There are discrepancies between virtually every Xenakis score and performance because most of his works contain passages that are functionally impossible to play. That's part of the fun of working on his music, trying to figure out how to solve his apparently unsovlable performance problems.
Maybe you should learn something about Xenakis before you start spouting anti-new music crap about his work. And what of the "fine art of composition"? Xenakis' works are incredibly carefully crafted, complex and a testament to human creativity and craftsmanship. He studied with Olivier Messaien, one of the foremost European composers of the twentieth century. You need to open your mind and ears and shut your mouth.
I am completely floored by richtomes' ignorance. Do you have some basis to dispute Xenakis' works' supposed "equality" with classical music? Is what you consider classical better than this because you like it better, or what? And where did you even get the number of 400 years for so-called "classical music"? This piece is most certainly more related to the European classical music tradition than it is to jazz or pop.
People rightly get annoyed when this kind of thing is held up as if it were somehow related to or equal to the great works of the 400 year old tradition of classical music. It belongs more appropriately with radical pop or jazz. The Jesus and Mary Chain for instance used to turn up all their amps and just have feedback for a whole 'song'. It was art of a kind. We should give this kind of stuff a new name - sonic theater, or sonic design, not to confuse it with the fine art of composition.
dear richtomes, why are you always posting the same comment on Xenakis' videos? Do you have a lot of free time? Go and find a job instead of showing your ignorance to us.
I discuss only if I have something intelligent to talk about. If you want to talk about Xenakis, first try to understand his music, then write. And if you don't understand him, try harder.
I think it's rather a shame that after four centuries of ever increasing sophistication in classical music we should now be associating tribal drumming with the tradition - leave it to the Africans - they do this kind of thing much better than the white man.
No, no, you go and study some genuine genius music instead of this tribal nonsense and try to get some perspective on what the music tradition is really all about - this certainly has nothing to do with it.
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Understand what ? That it has become fashionable to accept shoddy minimalist ga ga as a substitute for the incredible richness, invention and sophistication of a great tradition ? Great composers are turning in their graves.
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The term "minimalist" is often applied colloquially to designate anything which is spare or stripped to its essentials. This might not be minimilist music Glass style, but when compared to the richness of harmonic and rhymic invention of the great composers it is pretty poor fare. Tribal drumming is really better left to the native people of 3rd world countries - they do it far better than we do. Rather assimilate and develop the rich music tradition we created over centuries along with clothes.
This is not tribal drumming or related to tribal drumming. Just because something has drums in it doesn't mean it's tribal. And if you want rich rhythmic invention, I would argue that you would not be able to find a more rhythmically innovative composer in the western tradition than Xenakis.
P.S. It's nice to see that you've moved on from simply denigrading music you don't understand to also denigrading cultures you don't understand. You've hit brilliant new lows.
Be accurate - I haven't denigrated any culture. What I have denigrated is an art movement which ever since the late 20th century has been trying to take the consonant harmony, melody and wide emotional range out of serious music, to replace it with just about anything which avoids these fundamentals.
I think it shows a lack of rhythmic sophistication when you repeatedly associate Xenakis with "tribal drumming." If you don't think it's going to permanently damage your psyche, you should try listening to some actual tribal performances to perhaps better understand the mistake you are making.
I do have some authentic tribal drumming recordings picked up in South Africa and though they are considerably more powerful than this the language is extremely similar.
@richtomes I agree. It's very easy for the writer to mask the ramdonness and convince listeners its thought out when you declare your pieces are based on statistics, algebra, calculus and whenever other excuses he gave to rationalize his inability to produce music.
@debussy84 Yes, he couldnt create music as the rest with the classical method, but I think he could, in the general sense, create music. Its not that he masked a mathematical function into a musical illusion. More precisely, he manipulated mathematics into a musical method, which produces music that can actually appeal to the senses, and I think that saves him from artistic abomination, that we can enjoy his music.
As long as u manage to express the desired idea, objective or sentiment, everythings cool.. it doesnt matter by which means u do so... so.. he could have stayed there hitting just one of those pans with just one stick during 10 minutes and im sure u wouldve recieved a certain feeling much different from the one u recieved watching and hearing the video. What i mean, there are thousands of combinations and expresssions, this is the
xenakis lived during the war, much of his music is influenced by gunshots and the sound of horror, nevertheless this is pure beauty of mathematics people, and i believe it doesnt matter by which means u obtain to express the right sentiment or idea.
not understanding something doesnt meen it's wrong or pathetic or anything like that!!!
musique concrete ,in my opinion, i believe is the most advanced kind of music. writing music using mathematics isnt that easy, and takes years and lot of knowledge an music and mathematcis to compose something like this...
so i believe that before saying something, take ur time to rethink ur opinion...
have you ever thought that maybe the reason why you don't understand it or that it seems like "chaos" or random is because you just simply don't understand the evolved musical language? Music is music (says berg to gershwin).
you simply cannot judge a piece of contemporary work with the expectations of something that sounds like...lets see....Bartok or Stravinsky?
i kind of love that someone's defense of being ignorant about music is that they\ve been playing piano since they were 6 and that i know about schoenberg berg and webern......as if that clears up the fact that they are still ignorant about this music and the music of many other composers living today.
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The same song is interpreted by a different guy and the song is completely different.
What the hell is this ? This cannot be music, it's only random notes. I mean it's only agressive and repulsive. How can you love that ?
There is no partition, no rule, how can you say that someone is good at something if there is no rule ? I would just do anything with my drums and you would like that.. How can you tell that the guy playing isn't lmao'ing at your face ? Pathethic. Crazyness..
Georgesman33, your opinion is surely produced by your ignorance. Before you say things like that you have to inform yourself. This is one of the most difficult songs for percussion in history. Of course all hi plays was written by Xenakis. There is no improvisation there, there is only a revolution in the concept of music. Xenakis was one of the greatest musicians in XX century because, like Shonberg, he reinvented music. Remember, first learn, then give your opinion.
I'm sorry but i'm not an ignorant, I know about shoenberg, berg or webern. I learn piano since i'm 6 so dont tell me i'm an ignorant. Yes they reinvented music but I dont think they use it properly. It is certain that there is something good in this movement, Pink floyd is the best proof with echoes. and is the difficulty make it better? no of course. The only thing that makes a good song is when it describes the right emotions, if you remove tonality you'll get fear or anxiety... nothing more
I agree with georges. Although I guess this is debatable, music is not technical or completely random by nature. Music cannot be REINVENTED per se just by doing everything the way it hasn't been done before. I know that chaos is tempting, but it's also an easy way out. Xenakis is something to be watched in awe, because no-one really "gets" it. It's too "difficult" so it has to be analyzed. This is something that the academic community really loves. Explaining stuff.
If you read Xenakis's technical or aesthetic writings, you will know he was very interested in the "sensual" aspects of music and aware of the visceral impact of his works. I don't hear "chaos" in this piece any more than I hear chaos in the work of Beethoven or Mozart. Equal-tempered tonality is just as much a contrived and "unnatural" (not to mention ethno-centric) system as anything that Xenakis conceived.
The rhythmic structures in the piece are based on Sapphic meter (hence the name - "Psappha" is an archaic spelling if "Sappha"). The instruments themselves are left for the performer to choose because timbre only serves to punctuate the time. This piece is like poetry stripped of words. Whether you like that idea or not, it is definitely not random nor pathetic.
Beautiful piece & an amazing performance (as usual) from Mr. Schick. I've seen him play live several times & he's truly superhuman in his mastery of demanding, complex percussion music.
Does anyone know what the instruments he's playing at the end of the piece? They sound amazing and I have never seen or heard of them before. They appear to be square shaped, hollow metal tubes cut to various lengths.
I think those are Sixxen bars. Xenakis had them specialy made for Pleiades. I don't really know much about them, but i'm pretty sure thats what he's using at the end
Thanks for the reply, at least I have a name now! Does anyone know where I can get my hands on some Sixxen (sometimes spelled "Six-Xen") bars? Or what they are made from? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
there's like a minute cut out at 3:52
jeffreyrk 3 days ago
And all of a sudden I have a new favorite composition
badazzpresidents23 1 week ago
Phenomenal performance by the world's VIRTUOSO percussionist
scubasylph 1 week ago
@audiotheaudio. I am sorry I missed these celebrations. My plane was delayed because of snow.
JohnRSamples 1 month ago
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KhagarBalugrak 1 month ago
Though I don't like this piece I have found that Xanakis did in fact give credit to his folk influences at other times so I don't find him to be a bullshitter anymore.
intervalkid 1 month ago
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10 justin bieber and 10 stockhausen song at the same time
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andrewillis21 1 month ago
When Sunday, December 18, 2011 Time 6:00pm until 7:30pm
Description
Greenwich House and New Spectrum are pleased and honored to present a celebration of Iannis Xenakis, who passed 10 years ago this month. There is a similar event taking place in Athens on the 14th; we are giving you time to make it back from that.
audiotheaudio 1 month ago
Celebrate Xenakis: Kigawa, Balliett, Roberts, Paranosic and Di.J. Noizepunk
audiotheaudio 1 month ago
This guy's sense of rhythm is absolutely perfect...how is this even possible?
sonic777111 3 months ago
@sonic777111 practising with metronom, always all days
shavethebravedave 2 months ago
dude you blew my mind. awesome
tongue17 4 months ago
AAAAAAAAAHOOOOAAAA! "Me Tarzan, you Cheeta". Some "jungle music" I presume.
Bruno53ification 5 months ago
really excellent editing...
milkfed1986 6 months ago
To all you fake gaytarded dipshits who think I'm "out of my depth", judging from a glance at my Youtube channel and being completely ignorant of my real works, you will have your foot in your mouth when my books on Polytonal theory, nondiatonic scalar theory, and refutation of Decartes come out. You are way out of YOUR depth and seek to appear cultured and intelligent yet have no idea of what what that really means and therefore try shoot down every innovative mind in your prescence.
intervalkid 6 months ago
@intervalkid lol y u so mad?
ChaosTitties 6 months ago
@intervalkid the Descartes refutation train left like awhile ago...
Berliozboy 5 months ago
@Berliozboy
What I mean by Descartes refutation is that nobody has been able to prove the existence of the outside world philisophically, only the thinker. It's been 400 years and nobody's done it.
intervalkid 5 months ago
@intervalkid ... and not a single fuck was given that day.
FernieCanto 2 months ago
@intervalkid LOL at you and your "I am an avant garde musician"! Khachaturian and Bartok? Really? And you scoff at Xenakis. Your comments here (and your channel) expose you as a fraud and a phoney. Fuck off mate. You're using the wrong French term to describe yourself. "Dilettante" is what you're after.
MsChampionRuby 7 months ago
@MsChampionRuby
Calling me a dillettante is such a contradiction and mockery of reality that you will have to have your foot surgically removed from your mouth. A dilettante is what they train you to be in college, except in every subject instead of just art. They call it general ed. Go kiss your professors ass and let real artists do their work. I am almost certainly the most dedicated and genuine artist you have ever had the blessing to have even tertiary contact with.
intervalkid 5 months ago
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Amazing! thanks for upload the video,
mandas2121 9 months ago
Amazing! thanks for upload the video,
mandas2121 9 months ago
he plays it by heart? greeat!! (and surely a long learning process.. :)
shavethebravedave 10 months ago
Its awesome. My mom laughed at this, like if he was a manchild making a ridicule of himself, but he's awesome....
TheRiteOfWinter 10 months ago
I came across this.... I know the history with maths connected to the composers music but don't get it! I am wondering what is going through the musicians' head, or what he is feeling? What is it about the maths? Is he hitting such different frequencies at an optimal point for that frequency or what the fuck is going on here???
noddymoran 10 months ago
@noddymoran He plays, just like anyone else would. Nobody plays music and solves partial differential equations every second or something.
He has his own interpretation though and another person playing this will make it sound different (same order of notes, etc, but different character). I personally prefer a much more dramatic interpretation but everyone has their own. You should listen to "Rebonds" as well by the same composer
rahmalec 10 months ago
@noddymoran Basically when connecting math with music, you usually look at notelengths, these can be arrived on in a number of ways. Using series and a preset value for example(one value meaning another type of "full" note value or another preset of your liking. That can also be done with notefrequencies(pitches) by the same or different inventive ideas. Xenakis used the 12tone system some too which is when you use all 12 chromatic notes before reusing any of them once(in any order you like).
vincentizghra 8 months ago
@noddymoran Xenakis is nutorious for having used a lot of randomness in his music, which can be done in any number of ways. It doesn't mean it's totally devoid of emotion though but as I see it xenakis was a very special type of scientific composer who above all enjoyed watching what happened if he used different algorithms to choose his note orders, tonal structure, rhythmical qualities and so on. Great composer.
vincentizghra 8 months ago
distrugge tutto spakka i culi
IViolentiAmorosi 11 months ago
I don't If this Music Is Good but this guy got soul
frookoofrookoo 1 year ago
well done to the percussionist !!!
renenikol 1 year ago
fantastic!!
kandinskaya 1 year ago
Schick needed 800 hours to play this piece like this. Now, do you know what genius means?
papavereus 1 year ago
@papavereus certainly doesn't pertain to fashion..
grosdootie 1 year ago
@papavereus Anti-social hermit?
ohlordbabyjesus 1 year ago
@ohlordbabyjesus don't think so. just very busy ;-)
papavereus 1 year ago
This shit is ridiculous. Get ANY talented drummer and give him those sticks and those drums and he could improvise something so much better than this. It's not even comparable.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid That's not the point. The point is that this is how Iannis Xenakis wrote it.
ohlordbabyjesus 1 year ago
@ohlordbabyjesus
I don't care how he wrote it. It doesn't sound good or impressive at all. I could assign letters A-G including sharps to hexadecimal and do computations based on a hybrid of calculus and vectors and come up with a bunch of notes like that (also similarly with rhythms) and it would still sound like shit. I don't care how "intellectual" it seems. There is such a thing as psuedo-intellectual.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
Listen to some Gamelan rummng from Indonesia to see where he really came up with most of these ideas.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
I never said it sounded intellectual, Broseph Stalin. It must be a hard life, having to be a total douche and all. I'll pray for you.
ohlordbabyjesus 1 year ago
@ohlordbabyjesus
I wasn't talking about the music sounding intellectual but rather the explanation of how he wrote it.
Don't tell me that his process of writing this isn't intellectualized when he bases most of his work on oriental folk music, using mathematical and philisophical explanations to gain peoples interest and hide the sources.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
you're just disparaging something that you obviously can't comprehend...
franknwalters 1 year ago
@franknwalters
Cop out. Don't fucking bullshit motherfucker!!! I am an avant guard musician. I just expect a little fucking honesty. If you get ideas from folk music; admit it. Don't sit there and act like you had some esoteric mathematical method. I know musicians that actually do use mathematical and philisophical methods, but this clearly doesn't.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid
You're an avant-guard musician and you don't recognize his pioneering work in electronic music since the early 50s??
The fact that you say that he is ""using mathematical and philisophical explanations to GAIN PEOPLES INTEREST and HIDE the sources"" it's absurd and I'm being polite unlike you...
His music is appreciated through time by the best musicians in the world ... but not from you.
Well , I think I can live with that...
franknwalters 1 year ago
@franknwalters
I am a composer and I recognize when other composers are bullshitting. It's like Andy Warhol. Inferior work that nobody would even give the time of day without a frippin' psuedo intellectual explaination. I am also offended because he is not giving the cultures that he barrowed from credit.
intervalkid 1 year ago
@intervalkid I have a question. When you wake up every morning do you put two spoonfuls of ignorance in your coffee or just one? I love how your offended by things you don't understand as well. Do the world a favor, if you really are a composer, go ahead and stop because you clearly do not understand music or art.
Shredlord12345 8 months ago
@intervalkid yes, cultural purity forever! no one can ever borrow another sound from another culture without a detailed explanation! even when it might even be a coincidence! sieg heil to the intervalkid!
TallFastLoud 6 months ago
@intervalkid define: "so much better". Or do you just mean you would like it more? Here's a hint, stop trying to make "objective" criticisms of things when the real problem is that, at the end of the day, you just happen to not enjoy it but are afraid to be so forthcoming (i.e. that your criticism is subjective). You don't like it. That's okay. Just quit trying to justify it.
TallFastLoud 6 months ago
@TallFastLoud
Well....You can bullshit and accuse me of being "afraid to be so forthcoming (i.e that your criticism is subjective)" pffftt!!! What kind of pretensious nonesense is that? Whose not being forthcoming Dickhead? That isn't even a proper sentence. Forthcoming has nothing to do with realizing things you fucking gaytard. Obviously you aren't talking about what you say you are talking about. What the fuck does forthcoming have to do with anything here?
intervalkid 6 months ago
@intervalkid
homophobia as intelligent argument.
calling this one QED
TallFastLoud 5 months ago
@TallFastLoud
I think, since the advent of the proposal to integrate "pro-gay" corriculum into our elementary schools (before sex ed even) and the fact that parents aren't allowed to know about their 6 year old children getting condoms from the school councillor (since the hate crimes bill), it is passed the point that we can just shrug and say that every argument againt perversion is just paranoia.
intervalkid 5 months ago
@TallFastLoud
Did you just recently realize that when someone states their opinion about something that it isn't the LAW of the fucking universe? Are you that fucking stupid? What, am I supposed to state after every profference "Oh,, hehe but that's just my opinion." ? FUCK YOU!!!
You're caught up on some gay shit or something. Gay shit sucks. That aint opinion.
intervalkid 6 months ago
damn
grandexandi 1 year ago
Okay so I'm learning piece, and I am referencing this video. Did anyone notice he skips 740- 940? I mean I realize it's live and stuff happens or is there an edit for some reason?
zhale1988 1 year ago
the three people in front makes it look like mystery science theater 3000
charlesreid1 1 year ago 3
@charlesreid1 them three people are Steve Tyler, Randy Jackson and Jennifer Lopez!
noddymoran 10 months ago
but he has shitty drums! what a bad sound!
beerybs 1 year ago
Absolutely stunning music.
TheRealLordRama 1 year ago
what the fuck is this wierd drum set
xguitarxchan 1 year ago
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WildcatDrummer8 1 year ago
@WildcatDrummer8 sin ánimo de ofender, creo que no tiene usted cultura musical contemporanea, por lo que no puede disfrutar de piezas como esta que son, hoy día, clásicas. Abra su mente, busque la belleza más allá de los estereotipos culturales tópicos de nuestros días; contemple las referencias a otras edades y otras culturas, y si no posee la cultura histórica y etnólogica necesaria, dejese sugerir un viaje a otras civilizaciones y otros tiempos que también pueden ser suyos.
heidegger1777 1 year ago
@heidegger1777 Por lo menos mi país no está en medio de una guerra contra las drogas. Vete a la mierda hijo de puta un cártel de drogas madre!
WildcatDrummer8 1 year ago
@heidegger1777
Por lo menos mi país no está en medio de una guerra contra las drogas. Vete a la mierda hijo de puta un cártel de drogas madre!
WildcatDrummer8 1 year ago
@xguitarxchan Well, if you had known Schick's job, you would have called this drum set pretty normal. Schick used to play... on everything, what can make a good sound. On your empty head probably too...
papavereus 1 year ago
GOLD!
crowe 1 year ago
This percussionist is very very good.
iSkylla 1 year ago
@iSkylla It is the Great Steve Schick. One of the greatest percussionists. You may like Evelyn Glennie too..?
letronchosier 1 year ago
What are some other compositions like this one?
aljaesson 1 year ago
I don't mean to detract from this in any way, but I have to say I totally and completely do not understand. I can't discern a pattern at all.
DrHellno389 1 year ago
Its Xenakis thats pretty much expected and there are a few patterns throughout but thats not the purpose of his music.
supernovasky 1 year ago
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nice but not like gert mortensen's.........
farmsk 2 years ago
This is an amazing piece! I LOVE the ending!
madderbass 2 years ago 9
this is magnificent. plain blows me away.
joebob998 2 years ago
I remember the part where there is silence except for a really strong bass drum note every now and again. The silence is long enough so that you lose track of the timing so there's almost a fear of when the next note strike will occur.
rahmalec 2 years ago 4
Also I really think a piece like this has to be experienced live rather than listened to (or even watched on youtube). I saw this performed live when I was 15 and I didn't understand a thing of what was going on but was quaking in my boots for the entire thing. It's definitely a really powerful piece and the feeling you get is like being in a cinema watching a thriller as opposed to a musical.
rahmalec 2 years ago
Yes that's right, the ears just need to be opened a little.
Also I don't think the average person can't get something from this, same with other good contemporary music. You don't need to understand or be able to analyse what's going on to get something from it (which unfortunately is what many people think). All you need is an open mind and an attention span longer than 5 seconds (which many people don't have).
rahmalec 2 years ago 2
this piece only makes sense if played this well...in hommage to Xenakis, what a great composer
ZachHale8 2 years ago
sure, nowadays a performance of this piece becomes about a certain kind of virtuosity, but what this particular kind of virtuosity makes shine through, in this instance, is some absolutely incredible music.
unwrinkledear 2 years ago
i love how nonchalant the body language is despite the intense violence and thrusts that the performer is making to achieve to achieve the correct velocity of sound = it all comes out in the music.
unwrinkledear 2 years ago
As a musician, percussionist even, I am extremely passionate about pleasing a crowd. It's expressing something and making other people feel it that gets me going. As a musician I see a decrease in concert-attendance(atleast in sweden), I see cuts in funding(long before the "crisis) and I see more and more debate about why contemporary music should even be supported.
mjollner23 2 years ago 2
Be stubborn, passionate, artsy all you want but we need to please a (larger) crowd... Or this downward spiral will only continue until all the smaller institutions have all died from lack of funding. This in turn, in the long run, will result in fewer and fewer kids actually ever hearing classical music and learning an instrument. I hope I'm wrong, time will tell... I rest my case...
mjollner23 2 years ago 2
Amazing achivement! But this is the kind of stuff that is going to kill classical music. Completely alienated from everything pop-culture, how is anyone "normal" going to relate to this? Ppl want something they can latch on to. Not this constant stream of strange and annoying sounds. All this work to play it by heart and only about 2-3 ppl in the room enjoyed it... Guess what? They we're prolly all percussionists, musicians or composers. Is that worth all this work?
mjollner23 2 years ago
there is no need in classical music being connected to pop-culture at all! and how should this kill classical music.
what an amazingly narrow-minded comment.
richandglorious 2 years ago
then i think u probably overestimate the number of 'normal' ppl in this world XD
hermesw 2 years ago
as a musician myself, i can assure you that that guy probably doesn't care what you or anyone thinks about what he's done here. music isn't about pleasing a crowd, it's about being passionate.
10inchheels 2 years ago
You shouldn't worry about it... Just let people do the music they want to do.
kakofatus 2 years ago
Yes, it is worth the work.
AEkengren 2 years ago
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I feel the same way about this that I feel about paint-splatter paintings. I see it as mildly clever improvisation...nothing that anyone could benefit from by viewing the charts. Not exactly something my little brother could create...but a talented percussionist just messing around.
I have a concert percussion background, have been to PASIC 6 times, I don't put up with virtuous-tic pieces that put me to sleep anymore.
Quadasaurus 2 years ago
i don't understand the long rests, im assuming they are on beat. It seems like its forcing me to click in my head. nice bd accents though id like to see him do that while playing those metal things with his hands.haha.
nelgstrebor 2 years ago
I don't remember the exact details, but I read an essay connecting time relationships in this piece to Jean Piaget's findings on the limits of time-based pattern perception. I.e. after a certain length of silence it is impossible for the human mind to perceive the next event as part of a pattern.. there is much more to it then that but that is the basic concept, and should show you that the long rests are a deliberate structural and perceptual consideration.
cephalopod 2 years ago 3
Wow, you have to be quite great musician to play something like that perfectly. Very well.
Adelaidis 2 years ago
Wow.
JasonMarcCom 2 years ago
What's the harm in using math to write music? There's math involved with the symphony of a thunderstorm or a waterfall, why not in man-made music?
LastDayInSin 2 years ago 2
Stunning.
Quoyled 2 years ago
he plays it whithout reading a partion?
egw15 2 years ago 2
bizarre, friking genius!!
izaac909 2 years ago
Although Xenakis used math extensively his he ultimately made choices that were above all, human. And for you dopes who say this drummer is "pretty good" - this is Steve Schick. He is a percussionist and a living legend!
musthatedogs 2 years ago 21
Percussive pieces like this always make me feel war-like. This drummer is cool. I want to practice my martial arts forms, yell KI-OPS, and stamp the ground with ferocity.
This performance would benefit from the performance of a good martial artists (someone eons better than I).
ToneKicker007 2 years ago
i really like it and i dont care about all the bad coments here !! this is a lesson of pure music out of any formalism and i ask all those who write bad coments here why no one can write like xenaki's has wrote
gatoulis25 2 years ago
maybe because Xenakis actually didn't write that, but in fact calculated it...
But I've got to recognize that the drummer is pretty good!
moiliryc 2 years ago
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wow. that was witty man. you are so smart. "he didnt write that, but in fact calculated it."
good one.
fucking faggot
ienjoypuppies 2 years ago
Have you ever heard about algorythmic composition, man? Do you think this is only inspiration? I didn't submit any judgment and you're coming with supposition about my sexual preferences?
Who's a witty man?
moiliryc 2 years ago
I know what you mean moiliryc. But I would still argue that he actually did write it. In this case, the algorithm is what he wrote.
Bartkei 2 years ago
you're right, you win!
nice to see you're not trying to insult me!
moiliryc 2 years ago
This has to be the fastest I've ever heard it ...and I like it.
Not as much as the recording he did a few years back though. That recording he did as part of the complete percussion works of Xenakis. Amazon it!
YmcjutcICQctolQGgkym 2 years ago
Hypnotic!
Misnomer1 2 years ago
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Just one word.. NONSENSE. This crap reminds me of some pieces of "art" at Tate museum, such as a big blue dot on a white canvas..
To me, making music from mathematic algorithms and functions is like making maths from (say) radioheads music. The end result will always be an arbitrary-chaotic-NONSENSE.
charmand79 2 years ago
I really don't agree with you in the slightest; I believe there is a great deal of interest and pure excitement to be found with much of xenakis' music. The pure, ritualistic drive that exist within pieces like psappha and rebonds is something which I and many others find so fascinating. But, I guess, I can't argue with your opinion and you're justified to it. Just be careful with sweeping statements concerning music you may not have given enough time to consider.
samautumnwood 2 years ago 3
yeah man youre totally right, lets hang out and listen to fall out boy.
Jack458111 2 years ago
wow...How about you work on some xenakis yourself and then we'll talk asshat
IceMonster21 2 years ago
Awesome! So great intensity, mesmerizing! No one writes as brilliant percussion textures than Xenakis. I love this music so much!
arimatias06 2 years ago
how the heck do you memorize a 10 min piece like this
DeepSeaSeamus 2 years ago 3
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CaveatEmptor91 2 years ago
I don´t know if it is in the nature of music to create such compositions. I guess every musician - including me - knows that there is the possibility to write music like that. You just don´t do it, because it is not accessible to most of the poeple out there. And in my oppinion thats where art is created - in peoples minds. It´s like writing a public letter and using your own created font so that only a very few can GUESS what you mean.
zapv 2 years ago
richtomes, i think you are dismissing this because all you're hearing is "play rhythm on a bunch of drums." You have to very carefully follow the rhythm, not just notice that it is there. Listen to this carefully and ask yourself questions. Where do rhythmic elements recur, and where does he introduce new ones? Which ones recur and which ones keep changing? How fast do they change? Where does the music get faster and where does it slow down? Where does it get dense and where is it very open?
keebr 2 years ago 2
Anyway, richtomes, I'm gonna let you have the next and last comment here because although you've succeeded in angering me into all of these responses, you're not worth any more of my time. Xenakis was a poopy face! He didn't write melodies I can sing in the shower! Frowny face!
tmhamptonpercussion 2 years ago
There are discrepancies between virtually every Xenakis score and performance because most of his works contain passages that are functionally impossible to play. That's part of the fun of working on his music, trying to figure out how to solve his apparently unsovlable performance problems.
tmhamptonpercussion 2 years ago 2
there are a lot of discrepancies between this performance and the score, no?
chrisbarrick 2 years ago
Maybe you should learn something about Xenakis before you start spouting anti-new music crap about his work. And what of the "fine art of composition"? Xenakis' works are incredibly carefully crafted, complex and a testament to human creativity and craftsmanship. He studied with Olivier Messaien, one of the foremost European composers of the twentieth century. You need to open your mind and ears and shut your mouth.
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richtomes 2 years ago
I am completely floored by richtomes' ignorance. Do you have some basis to dispute Xenakis' works' supposed "equality" with classical music? Is what you consider classical better than this because you like it better, or what? And where did you even get the number of 400 years for so-called "classical music"? This piece is most certainly more related to the European classical music tradition than it is to jazz or pop.
tmhamptonpercussion 2 years ago
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This piece is a disgrace to the classical music tradition
richtomes 2 years ago
This guy looks like Johnathan Meades, but at least has a modicum of talent...in fact a lot of talent.
pastrychef1985 2 years ago
Wow I'm just simply amazed!
Moog167 2 years ago
People rightly get annoyed when this kind of thing is held up as if it were somehow related to or equal to the great works of the 400 year old tradition of classical music. It belongs more appropriately with radical pop or jazz. The Jesus and Mary Chain for instance used to turn up all their amps and just have feedback for a whole 'song'. It was art of a kind. We should give this kind of stuff a new name - sonic theater, or sonic design, not to confuse it with the fine art of composition.
richtomes 3 years ago
dear richtomes, why are you always posting the same comment on Xenakis' videos? Do you have a lot of free time? Go and find a job instead of showing your ignorance to us.
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
I always make time for intelligent conversation about music - you should too if music interests you - you might expand your knowledge.
richtomes 2 years ago
I discuss only if I have something intelligent to talk about. If you want to talk about Xenakis, first try to understand his music, then write. And if you don't understand him, try harder.
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
I think it's rather a shame that after four centuries of ever increasing sophistication in classical music we should now be associating tribal drumming with the tradition - leave it to the Africans - they do this kind of thing much better than the white man.
richtomes 2 years ago
I repeat: first try to understand Xenakis.
In this work there's nothing of african (if you are searching for something like that you must listen his Okho). Now go, study and try again.
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
No, no, you go and study some genuine genius music instead of this tribal nonsense and try to get some perspective on what the music tradition is really all about - this certainly has nothing to do with it.
richtomes 2 years ago
Bravo, good luck. Maybe one day you'll understand. Maybe..
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
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Understand what ? That it has become fashionable to accept shoddy minimalist ga ga as a substitute for the incredible richness, invention and sophistication of a great tradition ? Great composers are turning in their graves.
richtomes 2 years ago
This is not minimalist. Do you know what minimalist means? Have you ever heard any minimalist works, or are you just pulling words out of your butt?
tmhamptonpercussion 2 years ago 2
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The term "minimalist" is often applied colloquially to designate anything which is spare or stripped to its essentials. This might not be minimilist music Glass style, but when compared to the richness of harmonic and rhymic invention of the great composers it is pretty poor fare. Tribal drumming is really better left to the native people of 3rd world countries - they do it far better than we do. Rather assimilate and develop the rich music tradition we created over centuries along with clothes.
richtomes 2 years ago
This is not tribal drumming or related to tribal drumming. Just because something has drums in it doesn't mean it's tribal. And if you want rich rhythmic invention, I would argue that you would not be able to find a more rhythmically innovative composer in the western tradition than Xenakis.
P.S. It's nice to see that you've moved on from simply denigrading music you don't understand to also denigrading cultures you don't understand. You've hit brilliant new lows.
tmhamptonpercussion 2 years ago
Be accurate - I haven't denigrated any culture. What I have denigrated is an art movement which ever since the late 20th century has been trying to take the consonant harmony, melody and wide emotional range out of serious music, to replace it with just about anything which avoids these fundamentals.
richtomes 2 years ago
I think it shows a lack of rhythmic sophistication when you repeatedly associate Xenakis with "tribal drumming." If you don't think it's going to permanently damage your psyche, you should try listening to some actual tribal performances to perhaps better understand the mistake you are making.
savagerabbit 2 years ago
I do have some authentic tribal drumming recordings picked up in South Africa and though they are considerably more powerful than this the language is extremely similar.
richtomes 2 years ago
@richtomes I agree. It's very easy for the writer to mask the ramdonness and convince listeners its thought out when you declare your pieces are based on statistics, algebra, calculus and whenever other excuses he gave to rationalize his inability to produce music.
debussy84 1 year ago
@debussy84 Yes, he couldnt create music as the rest with the classical method, but I think he could, in the general sense, create music. Its not that he masked a mathematical function into a musical illusion. More precisely, he manipulated mathematics into a musical method, which produces music that can actually appeal to the senses, and I think that saves him from artistic abomination, that we can enjoy his music.
NevinJarek 1 year ago
new music. numbers.. infinite... and the same as the coinception of einsteins time and space.. everything is different now
victorcolosio 3 years ago
As long as u manage to express the desired idea, objective or sentiment, everythings cool.. it doesnt matter by which means u do so... so.. he could have stayed there hitting just one of those pans with just one stick during 10 minutes and im sure u wouldve recieved a certain feeling much different from the one u recieved watching and hearing the video. What i mean, there are thousands of combinations and expresssions, this is the
victorcolosio 3 years ago
xenakis lived during the war, much of his music is influenced by gunshots and the sound of horror, nevertheless this is pure beauty of mathematics people, and i believe it doesnt matter by which means u obtain to express the right sentiment or idea.
victorcolosio 3 years ago
Is that where Moondog takes his influence?
ZeuhlEmgalai 3 years ago
not understanding something doesnt meen it's wrong or pathetic or anything like that!!!
musique concrete ,in my opinion, i believe is the most advanced kind of music. writing music using mathematics isnt that easy, and takes years and lot of knowledge an music and mathematcis to compose something like this...
so i believe that before saying something, take ur time to rethink ur opinion...
different doesnt mean wrong or stupid....
Djmojogr 3 years ago
have you ever thought that maybe the reason why you don't understand it or that it seems like "chaos" or random is because you just simply don't understand the evolved musical language? Music is music (says berg to gershwin).
you simply cannot judge a piece of contemporary work with the expectations of something that sounds like...lets see....Bartok or Stravinsky?
bitonality 3 years ago
i kind of love that someone's defense of being ignorant about music is that they\ve been playing piano since they were 6 and that i know about schoenberg berg and webern......as if that clears up the fact that they are still ignorant about this music and the music of many other composers living today.
bitonality 3 years ago
It IS great performace. The music great as well.
georgesman33, if you could play sth like that, I am interested to listen to it.
papavereus 3 years ago
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The same song is interpreted by a different guy and the song is completely different.
What the hell is this ? This cannot be music, it's only random notes. I mean it's only agressive and repulsive. How can you love that ?
There is no partition, no rule, how can you say that someone is good at something if there is no rule ? I would just do anything with my drums and you would like that.. How can you tell that the guy playing isn't lmao'ing at your face ? Pathethic. Crazyness..
georgesman33 3 years ago
Georgesman33, your opinion is surely produced by your ignorance. Before you say things like that you have to inform yourself. This is one of the most difficult songs for percussion in history. Of course all hi plays was written by Xenakis. There is no improvisation there, there is only a revolution in the concept of music. Xenakis was one of the greatest musicians in XX century because, like Shonberg, he reinvented music. Remember, first learn, then give your opinion.
platso 3 years ago
I'm sorry but i'm not an ignorant, I know about shoenberg, berg or webern. I learn piano since i'm 6 so dont tell me i'm an ignorant. Yes they reinvented music but I dont think they use it properly. It is certain that there is something good in this movement, Pink floyd is the best proof with echoes. and is the difficulty make it better? no of course. The only thing that makes a good song is when it describes the right emotions, if you remove tonality you'll get fear or anxiety... nothing more
georgesman33 3 years ago
I agree with georges. Although I guess this is debatable, music is not technical or completely random by nature. Music cannot be REINVENTED per se just by doing everything the way it hasn't been done before. I know that chaos is tempting, but it's also an easy way out. Xenakis is something to be watched in awe, because no-one really "gets" it. It's too "difficult" so it has to be analyzed. This is something that the academic community really loves. Explaining stuff.
Outokone 3 years ago
If you read Xenakis's technical or aesthetic writings, you will know he was very interested in the "sensual" aspects of music and aware of the visceral impact of his works. I don't hear "chaos" in this piece any more than I hear chaos in the work of Beethoven or Mozart. Equal-tempered tonality is just as much a contrived and "unnatural" (not to mention ethno-centric) system as anything that Xenakis conceived.
nestletreb 3 years ago 2
Thats because Xenakis wrote the piece so it was played differently every-time.
Idiot.
pixelfreak007 3 years ago
The rhythmic structures in the piece are based on Sapphic meter (hence the name - "Psappha" is an archaic spelling if "Sappha"). The instruments themselves are left for the performer to choose because timbre only serves to punctuate the time. This piece is like poetry stripped of words. Whether you like that idea or not, it is definitely not random nor pathetic.
keebr 2 years ago
awesome
karoloandria 3 years ago
Is that a kick drum with a tam-tam in place of the resonance head? o.0
SHdrummerguy08 3 years ago
Great performance.
djvartan 3 years ago
this....is....awesome...best performance of psappha I've ever seen.
MyPerfectOpiate 3 years ago
lil wayne is better
brand1287 3 years ago
Beautiful piece & an amazing performance (as usual) from Mr. Schick. I've seen him play live several times & he's truly superhuman in his mastery of demanding, complex percussion music.
santanko 3 years ago
Does anyone know what the instruments he's playing at the end of the piece? They sound amazing and I have never seen or heard of them before. They appear to be square shaped, hollow metal tubes cut to various lengths.
wbeuche 3 years ago
I think those are Sixxen bars. Xenakis had them specialy made for Pleiades. I don't really know much about them, but i'm pretty sure thats what he's using at the end
kamps31 3 years ago
Thanks for the reply, at least I have a name now! Does anyone know where I can get my hands on some Sixxen (sometimes spelled "Six-Xen") bars? Or what they are made from? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
wbeuche 3 years ago
why does a lot of this not seem to match up with the score? am i missing something here?
chrisbarrick 3 years ago
you are probably missing something. Schick is superman.
OktoPlasm 3 years ago
eso esta muy feo
1972popo 3 years ago
Feo será otro...
DiegoCR74 3 years ago
Does anyone know what material Schick uses for the the D and F-instruments?
Patrickduinslaegers 3 years ago
some of the comments here are depressing
drplbiftin 3 years ago
What a terrible piece.
Less musical than construction beats.
Loo1cool 3 years ago
terribly uninformed comment
OktoPlasm 3 years ago