Language of Mathematics III (62): Black holes and elementary particles (Part 1)

[wafi0123]

we r 25000 mph motion but don't feel it and bloody sun juts twist on axis and make summer and winter but circle motion never even deffer like ealips or prabolic motion strange if this distance differ i mean sun straitght come close 500mile and go back 1000 mile hhahaha just burn

[wafi0123]

sir the arguemet is not the mass but matter of mass with out gravitational force ok mass but mass cannot be masure with out mass or no mass mean not genarate mass or this secrecy of centric action of law

[COOTBALLIN]

when you talk about the size of a black hole, what are you referring to? the mass or the volume? cause thats kind of important. a black hole's only conceivable volume is the event horizon, or the black hole's 'effective distance' if you will, because the actual mass in a black hole has an infinite density. basically, if you put enough mass in a small enough space, all that mass's mutual gravity will eventually cause it all to collapse inward creating a black hole.

[chychochycho]

Actually I'm referring to both the mass and the volume, they are related. From what I understand, you are correct to say that the only volume that we can measure is by looking at the event horizon, but that signature is directly related to the volume/mass of the black hole (the collapsed body, the singularity).

As for density, I don't believe that black holes have infinite density (i could be wrong though).

[COOTBALLIN]

@chychochycho I could be wrong about the infinite density thing, I still dont get the snag. this problem reminds me of Einstein's with quantum mechanics, the proponents of quantum mechanics argued that physics is only the study of what we can observe, and Einstein argued it is the study of what is "real." I guess if a BH's EH was the size of an EP, since we observe their effects in the same ways, they are the same. if the singularity was that size the EH would be different

[COOTBALLIN]

@COOTBALLIN (Einstein lost the argument, they did an experiment that proved it. I don't remember the details though, it was hard to understand right after I read it, and it was a while ago)

[komodekork]

vel, black holes would have a lower limit at the planck length

[MatthewMitch23051992]

Black hole have only been measured to reach a certain mass. The theory is that when matter and anti matter forms on the point of no return and the matter escapes, the anitmatter removes mass from the black hole. A certain number of black holes reach a certain size and then stop growing, atleast this has been observed so far.