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  • Its over 9000!!!

  • @Insubordinate90 Thanks.

  • Aren't you supposed to put to the ground after every rep like deadlift? just wondering :)

  • @Flandersir No -- not this lift. It's more for your back than your legs, so you only lower it until your arms are straight.

  • @Airickson no, you do need to put it on ground, to train starting strength and get healthy full range of motion

  • @korvix That just doesn't make sense. A full range of motion is the arms straightening and bending. If the arms are straight and the bar doesn't rest on the floor, it just means my arms are short. How long are you arms?  :)

  • For me, this turns into a static hold for my back. Is a one-arm bent over row on a bench a suitable substitute for this exercise?

  • @92benno92 Absolutely, and I agree with you completely.

  • dis guy is good

  • Great video - very helpful

  • for me "ROWS" are the best back excersise there is... I preffer to arch my back and stick my chest out when doing this excersise...so far I have never torn a bicep, hurt my back or similar stuff. My lats have become thick and wide :)

  • when i do this my lower back hurts, i am using to much weight or wrong technique, i am 6'6

  • @windstorminator Your height creates a greater degree or torque on your back than it would a shorter person. You may try a bent over dumbbell row in which you could support your body by using a bench.

  • I get an ache in my lower back if i do this, do you know what im doing wrong?

  • @Salamaleikum80 Try to determine if you are allowing your back to round or if you can maintain an arch in it. Your lumbar muscles have to work to keep you in the proper position in this lift and it's possible you are overloading them.

  • I did this exercise for the first time today and it was great!...It took me a while to figure out the form, it's hard to make you back straight at first,,Any tips?

  • @Tamagumo I agree. Try to 'sit back' in the lift a bit -- allow your hips to drop while keeping your chest up.

  • is there a difference between this exercise and the Pendlay Row?

  • @gerdonr I'm not familiar with the Pendlay Row -- can you recommend a good video that describes it?

  • great video. clear, no b/s. thanks!

  • I am one of the (very) taller people, and i just wanted to drop a message saying it's hard to learn how to get past your knees, but it can be done. Ii learned it after a trying it a few tries :-)

  • Great videos, very concise, detailed and laid out information.

  • do the alternating grips target different muscle groups in the back? (for example is the supination grip more mid back and the pronation grip more lats?)

  • @griff180789 The supinated grip will target the biceps to a greater degree and you will find that your elbows stay closer to your body. The pronated grip should allow you to flare your elbow away from your body. Your elbow position in relation to your body will then target different muscles in your back from the traps, to the lats and rhomboids.

  • Thanks for this video sir

  • top notch video. also another point i noticed is that when doing rows, if the grip is wide it tends to target the inner part of the upper back whilst doing them with a closer grip targets more of the lats

  • @aaronalwines I agree -- that's how I feel it, too. Back musculature is so much more varied than, say, chest, for example. Simple changes in angles will really target different aspects of different muscles.

  • i have back troubles do you think doing this excercise would make it worse??

  • @xxxtsnowman420xxx I would err on the side of caution and instead do a bent over dumbbell row or even a seated cable row instead.

  • so is this mostly for your lower back? not lats? when i do it, i really feel the burn in the lower back but no where else.

  • perhaps the best vid on youtube covering this exercise.

    thanks!

  • this is one of few perfect instructions. Thanks!

  • Thanks, informative and straightforward instructional, no faffing about, will definitely put this advice in to action next time I do back routine.

  • hey I was wondering why we have to hold it where we are benching for the pronated grip because i use the pronated grip and hold it where u hold it with the supinated grip, will it help my bench if that's where i hold it?

  • @DMxNemesis Different grip widths will work different parts of your back. I like to suggest for people to pick the same grip width as they would use with bench press because it allows you to more accurately target the antagonist muscles to the bench press.

  • @Airickson thanks! This was one comment I was waiting for a response =)

  • Very helpful video thanks.

  • Great demo, I am trying to master this movement.

  • I get dizzy when I do this exercise, any ideas why?

  • @macacolaranja Are you holding your breath? Breath out when you pull the bar to your chest, breath in when you lower it. That may be why, but it's hard to say for certain.

  • @Airickson

    No No NO.

    During the barbell row, your spine should be kept straight and stable. Breathing during the exercise makes this considerably harder, and will likely prevent you from keeping your spine and stable.

    if you start from standing or from the floor, you should take a breath and hold it in your gut, keeping your stomach tight. Press it against your closed glottis. This is called the Valsalva maneuver and it can help you keep a tight torso which protects your back.

  • @Brokenscopes Straight and stable means something different to me. I would like to see someone actively arch his/her back in order to protect the integrity of the spine. While it's true that the Valsalva maneuver will increase intra-abdominal pressure and protect your back, when will you breath when you lift? I don't think it's possible to do a complete set without breathing at all.

  • @Airickson

    You should be rowing from the floor or improving your flexibility till you can row from the floor. However if you have to take a breath it should not be occurring during the movement.

    As for straight and stable you are correct. I mispoke, the lower back should be arched correctly and kept stable. The whole back should be kept tight though.

  • @macacolaranja high blood pressure possibly

  • am i right in saying that the soup or whatever grip does your lats more, and the overhand grip does your lower traps abit more? seeing as the elbows do more of a dumbell fly kind of motion with the overhand. also im pretty tall and have had problems with my lower back, but i got one of the lifting belts and havnt had a problem since, i also found dorsal raises work wonders for your back.

  • @buffmann91 I think that's a fair statement.

  • Reserve grip is more biceps overhand is more lower lats and better for you

  • @HATEHACKERZZ Not necessarily better -- just different. Depends what you are trying to accomplish.

  • best exercise for back boys

  • you should wear flat shoes

  • i'm scared of doing any exercise involving my back lol especially deadlifts =(

  • thx man very helpful

  • @Richard3o5 Good point -- thanks

  • Best bent over instruction i've seen, VERY HELPFUL. Thanks for taking the time to make this and for doing multiple angles. Most vids only do it from one angle so it's very hard to see exactly where the elbow placement is when going up.

    One Q: when i do wide grip, is it normal to feel the rear delts working as well?

  • @faYte0607 Absolutely -- especially if you are actively trying to keep your elbows out and away from your body. Thanks.

  • is your back really ment to be parallel with the ground?? coz ive seen other people not do that...anyone help??

  • @mrmeaty182 There is significant disagreement about this. But you will target different muscles depending on how far you bend over. In general, I suggest if you are doing more reps (not going super-heavy), then I think you should be close to parallel. But if it's a max effort, then bending that far over is going to make things really, really hard. It also depends on your build. I'm pretty short so it's not too hard for me. Longer legs makes this much harder to do.

  • just when I thought I knew everything about lifting... I came across this vid. great points on the elbow placement. I will def give this a go. love learning new things..

    again.. thanks a million bro. :-)

  • @Neilram2001 You're welcome - you can experiment with different grips for many lifts -- narrow, wide, underhand, overhand, etc. -- it's a great way to add variety without fundamentally changing a lot of things. This idea of changing grips is great for beginners because you don't need to learn a whole new lift. (Trainers take note!)

  • @finnyman3434 great videos

  • i had problems with my lower back but not because of this exercise but of deadlifts. so my question is, I work my back like this : Pullups, bent over barbell rows or dumbell rows and dead lifts. Should i stop working bent over barbell and deadlifts ?

  • @semprenerrazuri If your low-back really limits you, then I would suggest a low cable row (using different grips) or even a bent over DB row. You could try a hex-bar deadlift -- this may help you. 

  • Horrible form. This form will work until you get up in weight and start to get bad lower back problems.

  • @WTFxFoXTRoT I suppose it all depends on how strong your low back is. The amount of strain your low back receives in a heavy deadlift or squat will be much greater than in a bent over barbell row. Consider a 400 lb. squat or deadlift vs. a 200 pound bent over row. You're just not going to be lifting as much weight in a row.

  • @WTFxFoXTRoT If you're going to say something like that It'd be cool to know what proper form would be.

  • @sinak12345 I think he wants to not be bent over as much -- I'm cool with that if it's really heavy weight or you know you are prone to back issues. But there's nothing inherently dangerous about a bent over row. Compare it to a seated leg extension where you're just begging for chronic knee injuries. There's nothing like that in a bent over row -- no matter HOW you perform the lift.

  • @Airickson Actually there is a risk in rowing for the extremely flexible: if you bent over to such a degree that your head is lower than your hips (even with straight and maintaining an arch) the spine will undergo traction and begin to lengthen. This makes it more strenuous on the lower back muscles and you're prone to injury.

    Most people won't get anywhere near this though, I'm certainly not.

  • @WTFxFoXTRoT To bad i learned this a little to late, now my lower back is pretty fucked up

  • Great video, i really needed these instructions. Now I have a clear picture of where to lift the barbell (chest or abs)!

    However I think that he bents to much. I'm not saying that he is doing it wrong (He probably knows more than me) but this dosen't look like a conventional brbll row to me. I know it emphasises the lats and lower trap but to me it looks like a varietion of the traditional brbll rows.

    My question is, would it be dangerous to bent as much? Is it a matter of lower back strength?

  • @ThePowerExcess I didn't think I would get so much commentary about this lift. Here's the deal, as I see it: if you want to go ultra-heavy and do rows, you will probably be better served doing a machine-based row, or a t-bar row in which your chest is supported. I don't think that the answer to heavy rowing is to simply not bend over as much because you won't work the same muscles as you would otherwise.

  • I'm about 5'6 133, just started serious strength straining. What weight would you suggest i start with?

  • @himme94 I suggest starting with a bent over dumbbell row first -- allow yourself to get used to keeping a flat back with your body supported by your off hand. This is the same position you want to be in with a barbell. Then just use the bar at first to get used to how to set up. While keeping good technique, slowly increase your weight.

  • I've been doing this for almost 3 months but still improvements

  • should this also work the biceps and perhaps deltoids a little bit aswell as the upper back?

  • @kingjosh1876 You'll hit your biceps a lot more with a supinated (underhand) grip. The posterior head of the deltoid will be stressed greater with a pronated (overhand) grip. The close your elbows are to your body when doing pulling motions, the more your biceps will be involved.

  • does that work back muscles right :S ?

  • @mrderrbear Yeah...but that's a BIG category (back muscles). It targets more of the upper back (including lats, traps, and rhomboids) than it does back extensors like the erector spinae group (although they will work to stabilize your body).

  • This is one of the best instructional video.

    Barbell row is one of the difficult exercise to do correctly.

    watch this and you should understand the exercise

  • is that a pendlay row?

  • Excellent video, very informative.

  • Best barbell row vid on youtube!

  • I did this excercise using too much weight and without using a belt either(being cocky) about 8 months ago and only about a fortnight ago was i able to lift weights properly with minimal discomfort.The past 8 months ive wrapped my belt extra tight and the amount of heat rub ive gone through is unbelievable.

  • @WELSHPHANT0M The weight belt can help, but it shouldn't be considered an alternative to keeping the back in a neutral, slightly arched position. An arched back protects the spine whereas a rounded back puts it in jeopardy. If you really want to go heavy doing rows, you're often times better off doing a cable row, or using a machine that allows you to support your chest while pulling.

  • @Airickson Thanks for the advice.

  • BEST EXAMPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN..it's usually just face on..not a side view and great with elbows in or out and whether or not to pull to my chest or abs.

    THANKS SO SO MUCh

  • Could a taller person do this lift with two dumbells to extend the lifetime of their knees?

  • @mdupre0423 I would suggest just doing a bent over DB row in which you place one knee on a bench and pull upwards with one DB at a time in this case, but a person could do a bent over row with DB's, but it make become a bit unwieldy.

  • Thank you very much

  • great vid thanks

  • great video thanks alot

  • this was great thank you

  • This is the best video on how to do rows thanks alot

  • @danook25 Totally agree!

  • Best explination on Youtube, you've helped me so much. 5/5!

  • Excellent instruction.

  • I think ur bent over barbel row is more a pendley row , cause i can make 120 135 degree angle with ur legs en u re almost 90

  • @winter0155 I've not heard of a Pendley Row -- I'll need to check it out. Thanks.

  • cheers for info. Do you ever do pendlay rows?

  • @fataslin I had never heard of these rows until it was mentioned here -- I will need to check them out - thanks.

  • Thanks for the thorough explanation, and for doing both front and side views. I've been having trouble with my bent rows (beginner here) as they've felt unnatural to me. I'll make sure to watch this again before my next go.

  • thanks

  • Great video. Best row video I've seen.

  • Good instruction.

  • This kid's full of shit the wide elbow positioning makes you work your posterior delts instead of back. You need to keep your elbows close to your body to work your back.

  • @THUGENSTEIN I consider the posterior delts part of the back because they cannot really be separated from the back when doing pulling exercises.  You are correct -- a wider pull with the elbows out will target the posterior delts, but it's also going to hit musculature of the back as well.

  • you cna use either one, its like any exercise, you can use 1 exercise the proper way, then maybe twist it around a bit even by twisting ur forearm and it can work different muscles..

    all depends on the view you have on proper form..

  • finally someone with good instruction.

  • yes, the underhand grip emphasises the lower lats

  • I wouldn't bend over as far as he is, it's unnecessary and put a lot of strain onto your lower back that isn't the point of the row.

  • @celconicuzn I see your point -- however the less you bend over -- the more vertical your back is, the less you target your upper back and the more you begin hitting medial delts and traps. It will really depend upon your build and how strong your lower back is to hold you in a safe position. It's not for everyone, I agree.

  • @Airickson what helped me on this exercise was hamstring stretches and working on my core, i couldnt bend down enough and i have a weak centre so my posture was bad had serious back pain now im fine tho.

  • Hmm, my comment disappeared...

    Well again! BEST instructional vid about bent over barbell row!!

    Thanks a lot!

  • Really fucking awesome video! Thanks a lot!

    This is the best video about how to do a proper barbell row that I have come across on the web and I'm taking this with me to the gym at my next back-day.

    Thanks a lot! 5 / 5

  • Very helpful video.

  • if you use the underhand grip as apposed to the overhand grip does it target a certain area more? sorry if you said that already and i missed it..

  • yes an underhand grip will target more of your biceps

  • yes overhand has more upper lats, mid traps, rear delts. where as underhand is more biceps, lower lats and lower traps

  • I don't think so, remember you work your back.

    I don't think grip will change much.

  • when i hit it with underhand grip i felt more in my lower-middle back and lats.

  • under hand grip targets lats more, yeah

  • it hits your biceps a bit more, its good to build up your biceps if you've been having trouble developing good biceps

  • very well done and demonstrated.

  • with your elbow width on the pronated grip you're hitting your rear delts more than your lats, no?

  • This was really helpful man, thanks

  • Great video, exactly the info I needed

  • v helpful instructions!

  • great video man def helped clearing a couple things up - u see so much crap online on how to do it all listen to you beign certified in strength and conditiontion

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