Boy, AA sure is exciting in highlights. Too bad when he stepped up he turned out to be a big Clottey. If he'd let his hands go he would get somewhere. He hits hard and throws good combinations. For some reason he gets this idea that he'll just cover up and wait until his opponent finishes, unfortunately guys like Froch, Dirrell and Ward will just keep moving and throwing. He needs to make himself throw in between the punches. I'd like to see him in a crossroads figth with Pavlik.
I like AA, and wish him all the bst versus Ward. Everyone's written him off, but look for him to ko Ward, I will be having some money on that as it will be a good price.
I'm a Froch fan, but he's got no gimme either against Johnson. It could well be AA V Johnson in the final. Hope Carl goes all the way though, but not sure if it;s him V Arthur will the yanks pay to watch that? they'd love it in Europe though !
At this point I want to congartulate Carl Froch for his lopsided victory over Abraham. This was a real boxing lesson for Arthur. Hope Arthur will ever come back from this rape of his mind.
@chrisbeck85 Hey to be fair to Abraham he has had some good success from this Super Six, In my eyes and many other eyes he was ready for knocking Andre Dirrell out if it wasn't for Dirrell's Hollywood acting skills getting the better of the referees judgement lol.
@chrisbeck85 Arthur is returning to the Middleweight division. Good idea. This will force him to become more agile. As IBF champion, no one was ducked more than AA in that division. I don't think anyone will hold the Dirrell loss against him, and losing to Froch and Ward doesn't make one bad. He intends to challenge Felix Sturm in 2012. He was a popular power puncher at Middleweight, I'm glad he's decided to not retire and go out on top. The only Middleweight that MIGHT beat AA is Marteniz.
what an epic fail video and prediction this was. you muppets actually thought abraham would win even a round against an elite fighter as the cobra? who looks silly now
@29Gixxer u make a good point , i feel ward just a little more sound and a touch quicker ,but then again froch will be less cautious then he was against AA, and start thrown em he might even throw the odd slap in there, but will be a different fight now AA has been exposed gonna opening things up but definitely cant wait for ward v froch gonna be a cracker
@flyinghotwing ....; It must have felt like this for Einstein and Newton trying to explain the complex yet simple true beauty of the omniverse that could only be percieved whilst immersed in pure math. Come Saturday night it will be up to Professor Carl to again educate the mindless peasants with a display of genius. Spare the rod ruin the child, Carl. E=mc2 Let the lessons begin.
@10shinhan :) I think the Dirrell fans scored it as an easy win for Arthur but the rest off the human race had it as a complete boxing lesson by the King Cobra.
I said on one of your other videos buddy don't underestimate the Cobra! alot of people thought the same as you though, it was a rational prediction. Keep up the vids lovin em
Abraham was VIOLATED last night as Froch was just to big & powerful for him. Froch bullied this clown for 12 whole rounds. Abraham was tailor made for Froch, you fools.
@AllahHelpsKlitschko you think froch fought like a pussy yet your a fan of the klitchko's LMAO biggest bums i've ever seen jab jab grab, robotic, boring and fight amateurs thats all they will be remembered for
@AllahHelpsKlitschko like a pussy behind his jab? then what the fuck did abraham fight like! hahaha froch through every punch in the book hooks to the body to the head uppercuts straight rights, wladimir klitschko throws 2 punches the jab and the straight right that is it! there is not one fighter that fights out of germany that is exciting hhahaha boring fuckers i challenge u to find me one! just one!
Wladimir has the best ko ratio in history! Froggy face got his ass raped by kessler no too long ago so what do you think the Black man will do to this frog in the final!
Abraham is just a middleweight fighter and froggy wouldn't dare trade with him!
British boxers are useless and always have a Hatton ending!
Useless crackers the Chinese, Russians, Africans and even the indians are woppoing you asses in sports and politics!
@AllahHelpsKlitschko two questions just need a simple answer for both ok? does the klitschkos fight behind ther jab yes or no? and also name me one exciting fighter that has ever fought out of germany ever?
@AllahHelpsKlitschko and also you said froch got his ass raped by kessler? yes he lost the fight but it was close kessler got the dicision due to being the home fighter but froch beat the shit out of kessler that bad he had to retire because his eye is all messed up! but i also respect kessler he is a good fighter that actually fights unlike the fucking german based fighters with there high amatuer guards and extremly boring styles
@Super007steve 'high amatuer guard' o dear somebody's been watching to many episodes of ringside haha n listen to teddy atlas, haha your so wanting for acceptance, everyone uses the 'high guard' at some point if their in trouble just not as much as abraham: is rubbish but thats his style straight up n down looking 4 the big punch which can be more exciting than being side on & using the pivot n turn backwards all fight like froch, and lets be honest he wont beat ward you would agree urself
Styles make fights and Ward doesn't have that long punishing jab in his arsenal like Froh does so I see a closer fight beteen AA and Ward but with Ward winning a UD. If (when coug cough) ward fights in his backyard...no way can AA get a decision man. Ward will be clinching onto him like AA was his muma lol
Think Edwin Valero might have something to say about that. Before the suicide of course. Try using Vitali for that arguement next time. He has at the moment the best KO ratio in HEAVYWEIGHT history, just shading Rocky Marciano.
And yeah British boxers like Lewis and Calzaghe had terrible endings to their careers.
And what is with the 'frog' insults? Not sure where that has come from.
@totaldebanker im not sure about ko ratio but jimmy wilde had 100 ko's in 137 fights, 103 wins in 4 years. ring magazines n2 hardest punchers of all time.
@Riff28Raff Wasn't sure of who he was but using that source of reliable information Wikipedia *ahem* it states that Jimmy Wilde's record was 152 fights with 137 wins, 100 knockouts. Gives him a 66%ish knockout ratio.
Still a great record though for someone who was apparently5ft 2in!
@totaldebanker yes wiki isnt 100%, i never used it. jimmy's fight record is a matter of debate, some say he had over 500 fights and way more knockouts because he never always faught pro. he once had 6 fights in a day, apparently.
jimmy wilde is a boxing legend one of the greats and has the greatest record at his weight. he's always been rated as one of the greats by boxing historians.
even i a big froch fan didnt expect a calzaghe lacy style schoolage haha AA is done ward will take him out in his next fight he'll be 0-3 his last 3 fights and go back to fighting bums
abraham is tough and can punch, but froch is relentless, and tho he has little defense, he also will hit abraham, id like to see king arthur do his thing, but this video assumes froch will fall as easily as the garbage opponents on here, miranda is tough but stupid as dirt in the ring with wide punches and zero defense
@flyinghotwing I now know how Jesus and John the babtist felt when trying to explain to the mob what truth was and how it was hidden from the closed eye and the deaf ears. But I forgive you your folly as those boys forgave the gentiles. I pray for your eyes to open and for you to feel a ghostly presence in the room on saturday as Froch lays on hands all over Arthurs club fighting face. 'True perfection has to be imperfect'. Behold, a godlike pugilistic sermon is to be delivered by Saint Froch.
@sugarraygras keep dreaming your false gods and bible frauds all you want, froch is tough and may beat the armenian, i really want to see a good fight in spite of who comes out on top, tell you what tho, be careful with the low down hands of carl who gets careless on Defense, one hard right can put him on queer street, as gay as rabbi jesus himself
@sugarraygras hey look your false god came thru, but i really think god had little to do with that lousy fight, arthur looked like an amateur and froch controlled the entire fight, very very boring.......i expected fireworks but oh well, guess abraham looks better against lousy competition, i give froch credit for winning easily...the best fight of the night by FAR was Marquez Katsidis, that was REAL action
@flyinghotwing "God dont play dice". I had him beating Kessler by two rounds but I dont deny that it was close and could be seen through an underdeveloped boxing mind that Kessler won it clearly. I suppose thats why he quit the tournament and Froch fights on and defeats the most dangerous fighter in the tourney soon after. Ward will also get battered for his dirty ways.
judging is never the same based on perspective...i doubt the "could be seen thru underdeveloped boxing mind" part of your argument..i had kessler winning close but clearly, and i like froch ( and his wife when she shuts up and gets on the bed), and may the best man win between him and ward but the road warrior johnson is in his way first, and of course we know if we dont have underdevelped boxing minds, that you never overlook ANY opponent...if he batters well so be it, i praise all fair winners
@carbonfiberfan There are many parallels to be drawn between this Athur and the grail Romances. Chiefly it was Gawain(Carl) who discovered the truth of the grail and ultimate quest, while Arthur became blind to its wider purpose. The real Arthur got knocked out by Mordred(Carl)after again glimpsing the light, albeit a short while. Then being shipped out to Avalon(germany) to only be recalled through old wives tales. Also the bit where Lancelot (Carl)and Arthurs Mrs........... No.
@flyinghotwing It must of felt like this for the wright brothers before their maiden flight. Trying to explain to the peasants as they looked on unknowingly as the brothers descibed to the surfs that man can soar into the sky like the bird. And when carl connects with his uppercuts on saturday the peasants will see again that man can fly.
@flyinghotwing ....; It must have felt like this for Einstein and Newton trying to explain the complex yet simple true beauty of the omniverse that could only be percieved whilst immersed in pure math. Come Saturday night it will be up to Professor Carl to again educate the mindless peasants with a display of genius. Spare the rod ruin the child, Carl. E=mc2 Let the lessons begin.
@flyinghotwing I took you up on your drug advice and now I just feel tired and really hungry. I think I will order pizza.......with stuffed crust. I still believe Carl will best this Braggart. It will be a good one though thats for certain. Lets just hope that Arthur doesnt do a Hatton by getting sparked out early!
Now people who only follow fighters when they get to the big time know that Froch has a good ametur pedigree. Froch made AA look like a punching bag lol. Froch not only surprised us by going back to his boxing skills (rather than brawling), he was clearly the strongr guy too. AA needs to go back down to MW. I did say that Froch could win if he used his jab and thank god he did.
@29Gixxer I am almost too happy to type. It was a master class. Abraham looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights on a winters night. The next fight is a rematch though, isnt it? Lets hope Carl boxes like this again. He is almost untouchable.
Yes...I am more happy over Froch's game plan than the actual win. Nobody predicted Froch would resort to his to his boxing skills (which he does have it's just he has not used them in his last 4 fights) and I now feel confident that he can go all the way, or at least give it a good crack.
True. Froch was clearly the stronger fighter (due to mass) and all AA had was the right hand which he had no chance of landing and to bee fair...I don't think he was strong enough to even hurt Froch. Did you see how Froch didn't complain after AA elbpwed him twice (Froch actually went to scrap back) yet AA complained like a bitch when Froch landed a legitimate body shot.
The ref was having none of it tho. AA is a dirty fighter. He was not really willing to shake hands with Froch at the end and I am glad he got beat and beat bad.
@29Gixxer AA was completely shut out, lets hope that in a rematch Carl fights the same way and doesnt go gambling on the honey punches. I believe he could have knocked Abraham out but decided to leave him with honour.
Yeah AA was ready for the taking but Froch probably didn't want to risk it has he still had that big right hand. Not that I can see it happening but I wonder what would happen if AA won the rematch? Would there be another fight?
I can#t see AA winning as not only does he not have the tools to beat Froch...I don't even think he is strong enough to hurt Froch. I knew Froch was a tough cunt but now I am in awe....
Yeah I must say...no way would I of predicted such a dominant result. I did think Froch would take it on points if he used his jab although not by 12 rounds :) That will be the most one sided fight in the S6, without a doubt mate. Now the Dirrell nut huggers can see how someone deals with the King which doesn't envolve rolling around on the floor haha
@29Gixxer I know what you mean about the Dirrell fans. Can you even imagine what it must be like to have such a complete idiot as your hero. Dirrell was beaten by carl and ran and cuddled all the way through the fight. What fight are his fans watching when they say he won. Absolute idiots. Froch has won everyfight in the tournamont so far. Kessler was a good fight but Carl won it by two rounds.
@29Gixxer he got beat clearly by kessler who outhustled him, give the dane some credit, it was of his better performances, quit hangin on frochs nuts, until he beats johnson and ward, then u get permission
Now come on man...that Froch Kessler fight was very close and Kess was slighty lucky there even tho I wouldn't complain about the result too much. Froch was brought down to earth by that loss as he now knows he can't just bully his opponets and must use that stinging jab. Froch has now put kess and AA out of the tourny. There's so many Froch haters here but now they will all have to eat a piece of humble pie and go take a hike lol. Froch don't duck no one and Kess is a gimp for pulling out.
Your the one that should be giving Froch some credit mate. I bet you were one of the ones thinking AA was going to KO him lol. Froch has a very good chance at winning the S6. Can you really see Ward beating him the way he fights (up close and mixing it up)? Froch will bounce him at close quarters and has the long range game to dominate him. It's just it's been missing for the last 4 fights.
@29Gixxer u are right i did think AA might KO Froch, but i was wrong, indeed Froch showed superior boxing all nite, and i learned that AA is a boring fighter with little imagination, no real gears besides the same come forward lookin for the bomb...i think ward is a whole different ball of wax, lets hope and pray we see the day soon, but first things first, let froch get past the road warrior test, doable but not easy by any means
And anyway...us Cobra fans have every right to a little smug. Vids like this and all the haters comments have just failed and failed BIG time. This is why they have all done a runner as AA was humiliated in a way not seen before. This is what happens when people who don't do their research make dumb ass preditions lmao
@29Gixxer dont get it twisted with smug or not, the best of boxings experts make mistakes, not necessarily about research, as the sweet science is the theater of the unexpected, if it were that easy then it would be no fun, just do research and you know, but know you dont, thats the beauty of the moment, the fight must be waged to truly know..and yes AA was exposed even moreso by Froch, who did a masterful job, high praise, but watch the smug until you beat ward johnson, bute, etc
It was unexpected in that froch resorted to the basics although anyone who has seen all of Froch's fights would of known he has an awesome stinging jab. Tbh I am not looking forward to him fighting Ward. Ward is another Dirrel in that all he can do is clinch. It's fighters like Ward and Direll that turn people away from the great sport and towards UFC :(
That is why I do respect kessler. At least he took it too Froch.
@sugarraygras i didnt see the ward bika dirty affair but im glad i missed it, would not be surprised if ward was dirty bcuz of Bika, the african has a reputation for being dirty, so ward im sure knows all the tricks, "protect yourself at all times" ...like hopkins, people hate him and we know he is dirty, like tyson, but you must appreciate the boxing talent in spite of the weaknesses, and i think dirty is weak, i hate those types too but am not too blind or racist to see talent when its there
@flyinghotwing I can see the skills in Ward. He is good but do you believe he would have been allowed to head butt his way to victory against Kessler in any other country other than America. Take his fouling out and I dont see that he has enough to tangle with Froch or Johnson. As for Direll I dont even talk of him as a fighter anymore, he is a horrible character and a negative fighter. Racism has nothing to do with it. I love Glen Johnson and am glad he is in the show.
i didnt see all that much, yes he did foul a couple times, but that overblown bullcrap dont fly, and like i said i have seen horrible judging and reffing in all countries, america is just like any other country, you get the good and the bad, the great ones and the assholes, that said ward fucken dominated kessler who did cry like a bitch, beat the man dont cry about it, but he couldnt and didnt, simple as that..then kes did beat froch, hey its all about styles
@sugarraygras i love johson too, that is one nice dude...and i like froch in spite of his arrogance ....abraham is limited, dirrell is decent but not great and ward is good to great, depending on what happens in the next couple of fights, then the winner of the six should fight Bute, for more interesting scenarios
@29Gixxer thats an ignorant comment about ward and direll, and if i didnt know better i would assume you are brit/european and racist on top of it...i think dirrel and ward and froch and kessler and johnson all deserve their respect as talented boxers, only idiots would rather watch that shitty ufc crap...if youre a real boxing fan you watched marquez katsidis last nite, a REAL fight!....the only one in the tourney that dont deserve respect is Green, who is shit
No way man. Are you seriously telling me that Ward and Direll do not constantly clinch? yeah i am brit although i suggest you watch their fights mate. Not so much at the lower level opponents but when fighting fighters like Froch/Bika.
This is not bias from me...it i fact that you can see by just watching them fight.
not saying thats not part of their game, unfortunately, but its also part of boxing/look at hatton,did that all the time, berto2= as does hopkins, but i look beyond their weaknesses to their strengths as boxers, and i have to say that froch does look cleaner but that dont mean he wins because he is cleaner, you have to fight the fight, take care of business as he did against the limited AA, first deal with Johnson, who is not dirty but is aggressive, then deal with ward, skill and dirt combined
@29Gixxer Ward is a dirty fighter. But after seeing him struggle against Bika I already know Carl will make him pay for his cheating Ways. I dont mind admitting that I fell asleep during the fight, on the floor, it was so negative' from Ward I just couldnt stay awake. If he gets into a head butting fight with Carl he will also lose.
I think carl is def going to have to use his long range game with Ward. I think flyinghotwing thought I was disrepecting them as men by saying that although i am not...I am just pointing out that clinching is all they do. Anyone who denies that has either not seen them fight or just won't face the reality.
@29Gixxer you dont beat a kessler by just holding, you have to land punches , ward finds ways to do that inside and out, in spite of ruf or dirty tactics...
It was more the head with kessler. this was how he was taken out of the S6. Froch just opened up wounds inflicted on kess from Wards head. Ward won that fight although you can't deny he used his head. Yeah Ward's performace was imperssive against kess although it was the cuts inflicted by the head that ended the fight. It was a tale of 2 halfs really. One the one hand ward dominated, on the other he was dirty.
@29Gixxer and remember that although in boxing it sometimes means nothing if a beats b but b beats c and so on..but kessler did beat froch and ward did beat kessler, im just sayin, but of course styles make fights so we shall see in the long run how the cards fall...
@29Gixxer Froch will be the last man standing. King Cobra has already won. Its just a matter of time for the negative energy of the haters to catch up with current events and disperse in utter shame. Their flawed views of Froch are out of time as Froch topples their heroes one after the other.
We have a problem Houston. It will prbably be ward vs froch in the final. have you seen the way Ward fights? The only reason why he has not been DQ is because he gets all his fights in the US. All the guy does is clinch and headbutt.
Froch can handle the headbutss...he will relish them although not so much the clinching.
@29Gixxer sorry nobody relishes from headbutts, and if the ref knows what he is doing he can take care of that, and america has nothing to do with the outcome, there are crooked sites in america, latin america, germany, england, canada, and so on...we pray for good judges and good reffing and decent fights, in spite of the ruf tactics that are also part of the sport
Froch is a fighter and would love a close fight like that. Just look at how he took AA's elbows and didn't even complain (despite AA moaning about legitimate body shots which the ref was having none of).
You just said you hadn't seen the fight mate...i suggest you watch it before you stick up for Ward :)
@29Gixxer i didnt see the ward bika ft and after a friend told me it was lousy and full of dirty bullcrap im glad i didnt, bika is not the most exciting fighter to watch, that doesnt mean havent seen ward fight before, i thought his performance against kessler was impressive, regardless of where it ws,he could have dominated him in dane land too.....inside speed....believe me i would love to see froch ward in the end, and i would root for a good fight and for the winner
I know I must sound as tho I'm a brit bashing the yanks but I'm not mate. Dirrell held Froch 11 times in round 7 alone. Search YT for 'Why Dirrel blew it' to see an unedited vid of how he fights. Like I said...you will see times where the guy actually lunges forwards to hold. Then there's ward, Hopkins etc.
@29Gixxer yes and hatton and others, i agree, not the most exciting fighters, but that doesnt take away from their skills and ability...instead of watching crappy dirrel why notn youtube tribute to hopkins, to see a real master of the craft at work
@29Gixxer yes but we are just talking boxing and many a good fighter clinches too much, unfortunately but part of the sport, always has been....that said marquez is a thing of beauty to watch him fight an aggressive opponent, he hardly ever clinches and finds ways to deliver punishing body blows then moves away and looks for combos
I'm not actually concerned about Ward using his head against Froch as Froch is a tough MF. it's the excessive clinching that worries me. If Ward doesn't contantly clinch then carl has the long range game and toughness on the inside to beat him by a margin I think.
I do agree with hat you say about judes in all countries tho. It's just that Ward seems to get all of his fights in his back yard?
this is true but good for you also since he has fought 3 times in the US, perhaps his test against a froch will have to be in europe or a neutral site.....and if ward is a holder and a dirty inside fighter, well then its just another test for froch to pass, isnt it, another hurdle to climb, but never lose sight of the first hurdle: one Road Warrior!
I hope that if he fights Froch, it's on neutral territory. Maybe somwhere like Sweden/Finland.
Constant holding maybe a test for Froch to pass but the rule book states that holding is illegal and will result in DQ. You seem like a fairly huble/unbias guy so why would you respect a fighter who is officially cheating (if he was to constantly hold that is)?
@29Gixxer i respect hatton cuz he beat one of my all time favorites IN SPITE of holding, i respect tyson for his awesome power and talent( tho it faded afer 5 yrs ), i respect hopkins cuz he is a living legend, while dirty as many a talented boxer, the important thing is good refereeing, i was a sports official myself for 20 yrs and players or fighters will get away with what you allow, so get a good ref, suffer the consequences, you dont become great in boxing just by holding, you need skills!
@29Gixxer if you cant respect dirrel as a fighter and he beats up on abraham, then it takes away from frochs accomplishment last nite ...tho i must agree that if AA didnt resort to a dirty DQ tactic he probably has just enuf time in the end to KO dirrell
OK, First of all I made that reference about respecting dirrell in the context of the Froch fight 9which you avoid as you know he was a disgrae that night). Secondly, seeing as you mentioned the AA Dirrell fight...even tho AA deserved to be DQ, Dirrell blatantly faked that injury. You could see him think about it and even the commentators thought the same way. If he can get a spasm attackk by a glancing blow...what is going to happen when he takes a real wack?
@29Gixxer not sure if you can say he runs, thats part of boxing too, and even tho im not too sure about the faked injury in that case, it would not surprise me too much since i watched the showtime 360 episode 8 last nite and found the dirrel camps arguments for leaving the tournament shaky at best, lying at worst, but again, im not here to defend or attack dirrel for being a liar....i avoid what? i smoke lots of herb dude i cant even remember the froch dirrel fight to be honest
@flyinghotwing The story of FRoch Dirrell was Dirrell was negative and cuddly and Froch was coming forward and bossed the fight and won the fight by a country mile. Unless they have started taking champions titles off them for getting constantly held and for having to chase their opponent around all night.
@sugarraygras youre wooin in the glue or the bubbly or something, get a grip young man...........froch may indeed be the last man standing, i am not a hater, i give props to all great boxers, and carl is showing his mettle, but dont be fooled by the mountainous challenge, like a wise man may say, its not the mountain that is the challenge but it is the pebble in my shoe
@flyinghotwing I am not sure that is wise. Just take the stone out and toss it over the shoulder. Or simply go bare footed and connect with the replenishing soil of 'GIA'. Froch is already at the montain top, your saw that last night. The Katsidis fight was a goody but Katsidis is all heart and thunder but no gears. Marquez should have made it easier. Froch however was handing defeat to an unbeaten fighter who everyone fought would dominate,for some reason. Just me and Gixer had it right.
@sugarraygras sounds to me your on frochs jok too tight, the marquez katsidis was a much better fight from a boxing perspective because there was drama, and both fighters were in it, i had katsidis only down 1 or 2 pts until he got dominated, but he did a much better job than did abraham last nite, so marquez' ability was put to a test much moreso than Froch's ..carl was smart enuf to carry out a gameplan against a limite tough fighter, and he did it beautifully but the fight itself sucked
@flyinghotwing I respect your view but if there are sexual jokes to be made you are the spit roast with Juan on the back door and Katsidis taking the cake hole. Katsidis though exciting is a second rate fighter who has never been world champ, fighting a premier league Marquez who made it closer than it should have been. Abraham was an unbeaten champion who got schooled. You know this.
wtv..thats yoru opinion, but i see katsidis alot tougher for marquez than was abraham for froch, thus we had a real fight in vegas, unlike the crap from helsinki, not taking anything from froch, he deserves credit, but im just sayin as a fan, it sounds like u didnt see the katsidis fight, top level or second tier, that boy was tuf as fuck to beat, and only a master would get his ass up from the left hook and continue working the way juan did, and i dont understand the sex jokes sorry
@flyinghotwing I said he was a good fight and Katsidis is a warrior but Marquez should have not even been through the problems with him. I have watched a lot of Katsidis's fights but he is easy fodder at the top flight. Froch was faced with an opponent never bettered in the ring until last night. I prefered the Froch fight as both fighters are supposed to be at the same level, but Carl just owned him. His Mrs is loud and perhaps shouldnt be near the microphones next time, but think positive
@sugarraygras if you watch both those fights and prefer the froch fight that tells me your not so much the boxing fan as you are a froch fan....that fight was weak as hell, sure carl did what he had to to beat the slow dimwitted armenian, but the marquez fight had excitement, something rarely seen in the helsinki affair....give marquez credit instead of trying to justify how lousy the tough aussie is, his effort was far superior to king artur ( who has lost 2 in a row by the way, not the first )
@flyinghotwing What two did Arthur lose?Dirrell bitched out cause he knew he would get knocked out. Marquez is a hall of famer fighting a club fighter. I think Marquez is a great, so was only suprised to see him struggle. He should have done what Froch did to Abraham. I am a Froch fan because he has earnt my respect through the way he fights. Put him in against a brawler from the club circuit and he will rumble the guy out of there just like Marquez should have done. Juan should not drink piss.
@sugarraygras youre a hater, if you knew boxing without bias you would realize that froch is nowhere near the level of a marquez right now, he can only hope to stay in the sport and continue to impress folks to reach those heights, again if you watched the marquez fight last nite you would show more respect since the younger well trained hungry katsidis landed a perfect left hook that juan didnt see, imagine if froch gets tagged by a perfect AA hook? then what..AD beat AA,
@sugarraygras when an opponent connects an illegal late hit and the ref DQs him you lose the fight, and AD was winning on points, bitching or no bitching, the dude who didnt need to bitch by being dirty was AA< then perhaps he could have finished dirrell but he didnt so its a loss for AA, two in a row, and exposed, the very mediocre wild edison miranda pretty much exposed AA in their first fight
he was beaten by dirrel, and the first miranda fight im not too sure aa wone that, broken jaw and all, tough but against a wild swinging brainless opponent....and im not here to put down AA, we saw last nite that he is not too clever, besides a big punch,the superior boxer like Froch will always beat him....i like froch and will like to see him beat johnson and ward, but dont put the carriage ahead of the horse, just quite yet
@flyinghotwing I am putting it out there that Froch will win this competition. You say he is arrogant, but who else can say they fought Pascal,Taylor,Dirrell,Kessler and then Abraham in succession. He beat all but one according to the Kessler fans but yet the only guy to beat him had to take early retirement on the back of winning the fight. Kessler may have forced an even battle but Carl wins the War.He has deserved his arrogance.
@sugarraygras i would not be too surprised to see froch win it all either..if i had to bet i would put him in second place after ward, but dont feel sentimental either way, thats why i just hope to see good fights and cheer on the guy who wins...sure froch is arrogant but most great athletes are...when i was a kid my hero was muhammad ali, who folks loved to hate, but he backed up most of his conceited ways in the ring, lets hope carl can do the same...
@flyinghotwing Ward is a good fighter when he is allowed to cheat, but is that good for the sport. This isnt street fighting. If it were, Carl would take Ward straight out. But when you strap on the gloves you are excepting rules. If you win by breaking them then your victories are hollow. Ward was as Dirty as ever against Bika and if he hadnt have been, Bika would have taken him easy. As it turned out I still think Bika won it. Look at the faces of Wards wife and kids at the end of the fight.
@sugarraygras cant speak for that fight since i didnt see it, if u say bika should have won i wonder about your objectivity when it comes to ward, from what i hear the scores were as bad as the froch AA debacle, lopsided...and uglier cuz of the dirty antics...i dont defend dirty, if froch and ward fight and ward is dirty then im all for carl, but you dont win by cheating, unless the judges or ref are crooked, nobody is allowing a fighter to cheat, the sport is more fucked by horrible decisions
@sugarraygras ward is a good fighter when he is allowed to cheat? i dont think so, cheating would not make him a good fighter, i think you just hate on him cuz of a few fouls like you would hate a hopkins, who is a living legend, sure he has held on deep into his 40s with what all boxers possess as parts of the craft, to get away with whatever you can get away with, but that alone does you no good without talent
i agree from that tape that AD was clinching, but that is part of the sport, unless its excessive, and if it is the referee can warn then deduct points, thats the way it is, i see it flustered froch who then resorted to dirty tactics himself and rabbit punching, which wasnt addressed, except to say that AD complained to the ref, yes Froch came to fight and DIrrel to survive, thats the way it was, w/ regard to the Kessler fight, Froch lost by 2, 4 and 6 pts in Europe
@sugarraygras dirrell did oupoint aa, and aa had a chance to redeem himself before he shot himself in the foot, so to speak, so he did lose...you guys criticize ward for being dirty and for legit rules, well he bit the bullet, if ward is dirty and it goes against him, so be it.
@sugarraygras the only sex that sounds good related to these guys would have to be with frochs chick who has no business in the damned ring, but im sure has plenty of business on her knees in bed
Ward won't mix it up with froch at close range (if he does he's a gonna). If he cheats it will be excessive clinching although don't be surprised if he has points deducted for that in Europe, as what happened when Dirrell held against Froch
@29Gixxer again, im not too sure about europe v. america,i have seen horrible judging and lousy refs in europe as well, and canada it happens too often, as in america, it depends on the quality of the ref to be honest, a guy like kenny bayliss would be fine......and i cant make predictions on ward froch to be honest, they have previous engagements, and i like to stay with one at a time, when and if the time comes like i said i wana see a good fight and will cheer the legitimate winner
yeah, germany is notorius for some bad decisions. The problem is that it's only the US or USA. Europe. USA is where Ward is from but there many countries in Eurupe so the best place would be a country in Europe, It would be more fair to have the fight say in Sweden than the US...where Ward is from
@29Gixxer yes i agree it should be somewhere in europe perhaps, but that is not to say that the judging or reffing would be any better, just because of the location, in the end the fighters have to make it happen and us as fans hope its not left in the hand of judges, but decided by KO or decisive wins that cant rob the average semi intelligent fan...
there was no easy way out when he stepped in with froch-outclassed by froch ha ha
123johnrooney 1 month ago
Boy, AA sure is exciting in highlights. Too bad when he stepped up he turned out to be a big Clottey. If he'd let his hands go he would get somewhere. He hits hard and throws good combinations. For some reason he gets this idea that he'll just cover up and wait until his opponent finishes, unfortunately guys like Froch, Dirrell and Ward will just keep moving and throwing. He needs to make himself throw in between the punches. I'd like to see him in a crossroads figth with Pavlik.
SkinheadCharlie 3 months ago
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Abraham and your prediction were destroyed instead...good old Froch.
Toddusful 4 months ago
Abraham and your predication were destroyed instead...good old Froch.
Toddusful 4 months ago
HAHA! HORRIBLE PREDICTION!!! ... BTW your armanian flag looks like the homo pride:P
Lavigueur69 7 months ago
You really know your boxing kid...lol
ManInControI 7 months ago
Bet that crown feels big now that his head's been deflated by DIrell and Ward.
Subdepthcam 8 months ago
I like AA, and wish him all the bst versus Ward. Everyone's written him off, but look for him to ko Ward, I will be having some money on that as it will be a good price.
I'm a Froch fan, but he's got no gimme either against Johnson. It could well be AA V Johnson in the final. Hope Carl goes all the way though, but not sure if it;s him V Arthur will the yanks pay to watch that? they'd love it in Europe though !
999999999999999999ot 9 months ago
he will destroy carl froch huh.
donmarco510 9 months ago
Such a awful call from Chris Beck hahaha!!!
To be honest though I thought Abraham would of stood a good chance but he just never was in it in all honesty.
POLChelseaFC 9 months ago
@POLChelseaFC
Yeah that was an fucking awfull call :)
At this point I want to congartulate Carl Froch for his lopsided victory over Abraham. This was a real boxing lesson for Arthur. Hope Arthur will ever come back from this rape of his mind.
chrisbeck85 9 months ago 2
@chrisbeck85 Hey to be fair to Abraham he has had some good success from this Super Six, In my eyes and many other eyes he was ready for knocking Andre Dirrell out if it wasn't for Dirrell's Hollywood acting skills getting the better of the referees judgement lol.
POLChelseaFC 9 months ago
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@chrisbeck85 Arthur is returning to the Middleweight division. Good idea. This will force him to become more agile. As IBF champion, no one was ducked more than AA in that division. I don't think anyone will hold the Dirrell loss against him, and losing to Froch and Ward doesn't make one bad. He intends to challenge Felix Sturm in 2012. He was a popular power puncher at Middleweight, I'm glad he's decided to not retire and go out on top. The only Middleweight that MIGHT beat AA is Marteniz.
crowley0312 1 month ago
ha ha could you have this fight more wrong?
ManInControI 9 months ago
haha!
chaseybears 10 months ago
Wow MexicanKiller really got it wrong , what a putz !
onetwopunchyerface 11 months ago
Wow MexicanKiller really got it wrong , what a putz
onetwopunchyerface 11 months ago
Oh is he going to destroy Froch is he!!!!!!
funguysmall 11 months ago
fuck u all motherfuckers who wants to bet with me that abraham is gonna win the tournament and hes gonna fuck up andre ward and carl froch
mexicankiller323 1 year ago
@mexicankiller323 I'll bet you any amount of money.
NextWorldApparel 11 months ago
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@mexicankiller323 are you fucking stupid? or dont you follow boxing? you idiot
mart01642 11 months ago
lol
moetron 1 year ago
lol Bahahahahaha
moetron 1 year ago
Haaaaaa! haaaaaa1 your boy got beat down!!!
rgnld1 1 year ago
haha....what a terrible prediction
THE COBRA
roonaljoe 1 year ago 2
epic lulz
gillri 1 year ago
ha ha well done...you really called that one.
ManInControI 1 year ago 2
awwwwwwwwww mate you was wrong lol . FROCH destroyed abraham LMFAO
Newevotime1988 1 year ago
what an epic fail video and prediction this was. you muppets actually thought abraham would win even a round against an elite fighter as the cobra? who looks silly now
gutshotalot 1 year ago
@29Gixxer u make a good point , i feel ward just a little more sound and a touch quicker ,but then again froch will be less cautious then he was against AA, and start thrown em he might even throw the odd slap in there, but will be a different fight now AA has been exposed gonna opening things up but definitely cant wait for ward v froch gonna be a cracker
drakecoffeecake 1 year ago
bwahhahahahahahbwahaha King Abraham has lost two in a row and was farther exposed by Froch. Whose the pussy now tools.
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sugarraygras
2 days ago
@flyinghotwing ....; It must have felt like this for Einstein and Newton trying to explain the complex yet simple true beauty of the omniverse that could only be percieved whilst immersed in pure math. Come Saturday night it will be up to Professor Carl to again educate the mindless peasants with a display of genius. Spare the rod ruin the child, Carl. E=mc2 Let the lessons begin.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
Sorry I missed the fight, did AA destroy Froch like this video says?
10shinhan 1 year ago
@10shinhan :) I think the Dirrell fans scored it as an easy win for Arthur but the rest off the human race had it as a complete boxing lesson by the King Cobra.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
"@10shinhan Dont worry Froch will win the tournamont."
You're prophecy is being fulfilled so far :D
10shinhan 1 year ago
@10shinhan And as it is written so it shall come to pass.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras Hahaha! Like I said last time, I hope so! ;)
10shinhan 1 year ago
@10shinhan no.... lol , quite the opposite
Newevotime1988 1 year ago
@Newevotime1988 I was joking mate
10shinhan 1 year ago
@10shinhan and i dont even remember what i said, ah whoopdy shit
Newevotime1988 1 year ago
shame he lost.. the cobra roughed his ass up
Osealey 1 year ago
I said on one of your other videos buddy don't underestimate the Cobra! alot of people thought the same as you though, it was a rational prediction. Keep up the vids lovin em
jmcg1010 1 year ago
i don't want to gloat, but i am sure you have seen the result for yourself. abrahams is a class fighter, but carl froch is better.
thedarkgod6666 1 year ago
YEAH Abrham destroyed Froch gooood! loool
athleticguyUK 1 year ago
Abraham gonna do what to Froch!!! Why even risk naming a video like this!!! Now you jus look like a fool!!!
lampedkid 1 year ago
Abraham was VIOLATED last night as Froch was just to big & powerful for him. Froch bullied this clown for 12 whole rounds. Abraham was tailor made for Froch, you fools.
RapPwnage 1 year ago
hahahhahhahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...
NOTTINGHAMMMMM !!!!!!!! ROBIN HOOOOOD CITYYYYYY,...!!!!!
onebludz 1 year ago
Haha, Abraham just got his ears boxed off by Froch. I respect Abraham, but now you've all got to respect Carl Froch.
tonberrykinged 1 year ago
"Arthur Abraham will destroy Carl Froch......."
Oh really.
That was never going to happen was it.
biffbiff99 1 year ago
The crackers nation!
AllahHelpsKlitschko 1 year ago
Froch fought like a pussy behind his jab! Carl the frog soon to get raped by a black fighter, stay tuned
The biggest and best fight will be when Klitschko takes out some House negroes! Chisora is first in the list!
AllahHelpsKlitschko 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko you think froch fought like a pussy yet your a fan of the klitchko's LMAO biggest bums i've ever seen jab jab grab, robotic, boring and fight amateurs thats all they will be remembered for
mrtibbz10 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko like a pussy behind his jab? then what the fuck did abraham fight like! hahaha froch through every punch in the book hooks to the body to the head uppercuts straight rights, wladimir klitschko throws 2 punches the jab and the straight right that is it! there is not one fighter that fights out of germany that is exciting hhahaha boring fuckers i challenge u to find me one! just one!
Super007steve 1 year ago
@Super007steve
Silly cracker!
Wladimir has the best ko ratio in history! Froggy face got his ass raped by kessler no too long ago so what do you think the Black man will do to this frog in the final!
Abraham is just a middleweight fighter and froggy wouldn't dare trade with him!
British boxers are useless and always have a Hatton ending!
Useless crackers the Chinese, Russians, Africans and even the indians are woppoing you asses in sports and politics!
AllahHelpsKlitschko 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko Crackers? what is your definition of a cracker?
SNIFFMYBADGER 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko two questions just need a simple answer for both ok? does the klitschkos fight behind ther jab yes or no? and also name me one exciting fighter that has ever fought out of germany ever?
Super007steve 1 year ago
@Super007steve Hitler was an exciting fighter outer Germany! lol
athleticguyUK 1 year ago
@athleticguyUK i look what happened to him when cornered shoot himself like some pussy!
Super007steve 1 year ago
@Super007steve an he looked like charlie chaplin lol ( he was a big fan) lol
athleticguyUK 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko and also you said froch got his ass raped by kessler? yes he lost the fight but it was close kessler got the dicision due to being the home fighter but froch beat the shit out of kessler that bad he had to retire because his eye is all messed up! but i also respect kessler he is a good fighter that actually fights unlike the fucking german based fighters with there high amatuer guards and extremly boring styles
Super007steve 1 year ago
@Super007steve 'high amatuer guard' o dear somebody's been watching to many episodes of ringside haha n listen to teddy atlas, haha your so wanting for acceptance, everyone uses the 'high guard' at some point if their in trouble just not as much as abraham: is rubbish but thats his style straight up n down looking 4 the big punch which can be more exciting than being side on & using the pivot n turn backwards all fight like froch, and lets be honest he wont beat ward you would agree urself
drakecoffeecake 1 year ago
@drakecoffeecake
Styles make fights and Ward doesn't have that long punishing jab in his arsenal like Froh does so I see a closer fight beteen AA and Ward but with Ward winning a UD. If (when coug cough) ward fights in his backyard...no way can AA get a decision man. Ward will be clinching onto him like AA was his muma lol
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko "Wladmir has the best ko ratio in history!"
Think Edwin Valero might have something to say about that. Before the suicide of course. Try using Vitali for that arguement next time. He has at the moment the best KO ratio in HEAVYWEIGHT history, just shading Rocky Marciano.
And yeah British boxers like Lewis and Calzaghe had terrible endings to their careers.
And what is with the 'frog' insults? Not sure where that has come from.
totaldebanker 1 year ago
@totaldebanker im not sure about ko ratio but jimmy wilde had 100 ko's in 137 fights, 103 wins in 4 years. ring magazines n2 hardest punchers of all time.
Riff28Raff 1 year ago
@Riff28Raff Wasn't sure of who he was but using that source of reliable information Wikipedia *ahem* it states that Jimmy Wilde's record was 152 fights with 137 wins, 100 knockouts. Gives him a 66%ish knockout ratio.
Still a great record though for someone who was apparently5ft 2in!
totaldebanker 1 year ago
@totaldebanker yes wiki isnt 100%, i never used it. jimmy's fight record is a matter of debate, some say he had over 500 fights and way more knockouts because he never always faught pro. he once had 6 fights in a day, apparently.
jimmy wilde is a boxing legend one of the greats and has the greatest record at his weight. he's always been rated as one of the greats by boxing historians.
Riff28Raff 1 year ago
@Super007steve
I won't bother replying to your cracker ass! Just stay tuned and watch how Klitschko humilates these crackers!
AllahHelpsKlitschko 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko you need to get real attention seeker
tunage100 1 year ago
even i a big froch fan didnt expect a calzaghe lacy style schoolage haha AA is done ward will take him out in his next fight he'll be 0-3 his last 3 fights and go back to fighting bums
mrtibbz10 1 year ago
Skill of a 168 lb ex champion Brit beats an overhyped Armenian 160 pounder.
peaceman1234567 1 year ago
so...what happened mr almighty video uploader person?
about time to change that title yes? =]
cazz3000 1 year ago
I alsao thought Abraham would win by decision a close one but Froch showed skills and power
CocaC 1 year ago
Froch made Abraham look so shit, he had no answer for him.
lionsheart8 1 year ago
Froch vs Abraham is going to be so awesome!!! Could even be fight of the year!!!
It's on Saturday, November 27, 2010 at 2:30pm EST.
I can't wait to watch it live online here:
Ly9 [dot] net/6/froch
Gale8723 1 year ago
abraham is tough and can punch, but froch is relentless, and tho he has little defense, he also will hit abraham, id like to see king arthur do his thing, but this video assumes froch will fall as easily as the garbage opponents on here, miranda is tough but stupid as dirt in the ring with wide punches and zero defense
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I now know how Jesus and John the babtist felt when trying to explain to the mob what truth was and how it was hidden from the closed eye and the deaf ears. But I forgive you your folly as those boys forgave the gentiles. I pray for your eyes to open and for you to feel a ghostly presence in the room on saturday as Froch lays on hands all over Arthurs club fighting face. 'True perfection has to be imperfect'. Behold, a godlike pugilistic sermon is to be delivered by Saint Froch.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras keep dreaming your false gods and bible frauds all you want, froch is tough and may beat the armenian, i really want to see a good fight in spite of who comes out on top, tell you what tho, be careful with the low down hands of carl who gets careless on Defense, one hard right can put him on queer street, as gay as rabbi jesus himself
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing The false gods have triumphed again. King Cobra strikes. E=mc2
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras hey look your false god came thru, but i really think god had little to do with that lousy fight, arthur looked like an amateur and froch controlled the entire fight, very very boring.......i expected fireworks but oh well, guess abraham looks better against lousy competition, i give froch credit for winning easily...the best fight of the night by FAR was Marquez Katsidis, that was REAL action
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing It was e=mc2 just like I told you. Praise the lords.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras yes at least you got the plurals correctly...and it was your boy mc2 who said...."God is subtle but he is not malicious."
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing "God dont play dice". I had him beating Kessler by two rounds but I dont deny that it was close and could be seen through an underdeveloped boxing mind that Kessler won it clearly. I suppose thats why he quit the tournament and Froch fights on and defeats the most dangerous fighter in the tourney soon after. Ward will also get battered for his dirty ways.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
judging is never the same based on perspective...i doubt the "could be seen thru underdeveloped boxing mind" part of your argument..i had kessler winning close but clearly, and i like froch ( and his wife when she shuts up and gets on the bed), and may the best man win between him and ward but the road warrior johnson is in his way first, and of course we know if we dont have underdevelped boxing minds, that you never overlook ANY opponent...if he batters well so be it, i praise all fair winners
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
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AllahHelpsKlitschko 1 year ago
@AllahHelpsKlitschko You wont see it. Carl will beat the shit out of this bully.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
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mrtibbz10 1 year ago
Carl Froch will easily beat this dude
carbonfiberfan 1 year ago
@carbonfiberfan There are many parallels to be drawn between this Athur and the grail Romances. Chiefly it was Gawain(Carl) who discovered the truth of the grail and ultimate quest, while Arthur became blind to its wider purpose. The real Arthur got knocked out by Mordred(Carl)after again glimpsing the light, albeit a short while. Then being shipped out to Avalon(germany) to only be recalled through old wives tales. Also the bit where Lancelot (Carl)and Arthurs Mrs........... No.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras close the fucken good book and do some good drugs instead , youd be better off for your dreaming
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing It must of felt like this for the wright brothers before their maiden flight. Trying to explain to the peasants as they looked on unknowingly as the brothers descibed to the surfs that man can soar into the sky like the bird. And when carl connects with his uppercuts on saturday the peasants will see again that man can fly.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing ....; It must have felt like this for Einstein and Newton trying to explain the complex yet simple true beauty of the omniverse that could only be percieved whilst immersed in pure math. Come Saturday night it will be up to Professor Carl to again educate the mindless peasants with a display of genius. Spare the rod ruin the child, Carl. E=mc2 Let the lessons begin.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I took you up on your drug advice and now I just feel tired and really hungry. I think I will order pizza.......with stuffed crust. I still believe Carl will best this Braggart. It will be a good one though thats for certain. Lets just hope that Arthur doesnt do a Hatton by getting sparked out early!
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras don't chock on your pizza.
MrclintE007 1 year ago
@MrclintE007 I think I will eat it after the fight to be honest. Two great warriors meet at last. Godbless you.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
Now people who only follow fighters when they get to the big time know that Froch has a good ametur pedigree. Froch made AA look like a punching bag lol. Froch not only surprised us by going back to his boxing skills (rather than brawling), he was clearly the strongr guy too. AA needs to go back down to MW. I did say that Froch could win if he used his jab and thank god he did.
Come on the Cobra!!!!!!!!!!
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer I am almost too happy to type. It was a master class. Abraham looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights on a winters night. The next fight is a rematch though, isnt it? Lets hope Carl boxes like this again. He is almost untouchable.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
Yes...I am more happy over Froch's game plan than the actual win. Nobody predicted Froch would resort to his to his boxing skills (which he does have it's just he has not used them in his last 4 fights) and I now feel confident that he can go all the way, or at least give it a good crack.
Now...I got some haters to whind up lol
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer I have found the e=mc2 line gets under the haters skin and its now meaningful,also.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
True. Froch was clearly the stronger fighter (due to mass) and all AA had was the right hand which he had no chance of landing and to bee fair...I don't think he was strong enough to even hurt Froch. Did you see how Froch didn't complain after AA elbpwed him twice (Froch actually went to scrap back) yet AA complained like a bitch when Froch landed a legitimate body shot.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
The ref was having none of it tho. AA is a dirty fighter. He was not really willing to shake hands with Froch at the end and I am glad he got beat and beat bad.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
Yeah there's a rematch although I doubt AA will show up lol
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer AA was completely shut out, lets hope that in a rematch Carl fights the same way and doesnt go gambling on the honey punches. I believe he could have knocked Abraham out but decided to leave him with honour.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
Yeah AA was ready for the taking but Froch probably didn't want to risk it has he still had that big right hand. Not that I can see it happening but I wonder what would happen if AA won the rematch? Would there be another fight?
I can#t see AA winning as not only does he not have the tools to beat Froch...I don't even think he is strong enough to hurt Froch. I knew Froch was a tough cunt but now I am in awe....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer Froch will beat him again. Arthur has been exposed by the Cobra, that much is for sure.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
Yeah I must say...no way would I of predicted such a dominant result. I did think Froch would take it on points if he used his jab although not by 12 rounds :) That will be the most one sided fight in the S6, without a doubt mate. Now the Dirrell nut huggers can see how someone deals with the King which doesn't envolve rolling around on the floor haha
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer I know what you mean about the Dirrell fans. Can you even imagine what it must be like to have such a complete idiot as your hero. Dirrell was beaten by carl and ran and cuddled all the way through the fight. What fight are his fans watching when they say he won. Absolute idiots. Froch has won everyfight in the tournamont so far. Kessler was a good fight but Carl won it by two rounds.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
Yeah i also had Froch up by a round or two against kess. I wouldn't call it a robbery although it was a home cooked meal :)
He may of been gifted that decision although that Fight ended up both giving and costing him the WBC as Froch put him out of the tourny....
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer The Ward fights on at 2, is that right.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras is it?
cazz3000 1 year ago
@29Gixxer he got beat clearly by kessler who outhustled him, give the dane some credit, it was of his better performances, quit hangin on frochs nuts, until he beats johnson and ward, then u get permission
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
Now come on man...that Froch Kessler fight was very close and Kess was slighty lucky there even tho I wouldn't complain about the result too much. Froch was brought down to earth by that loss as he now knows he can't just bully his opponets and must use that stinging jab. Froch has now put kess and AA out of the tourny. There's so many Froch haters here but now they will all have to eat a piece of humble pie and go take a hike lol. Froch don't duck no one and Kess is a gimp for pulling out.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
Your the one that should be giving Froch some credit mate. I bet you were one of the ones thinking AA was going to KO him lol. Froch has a very good chance at winning the S6. Can you really see Ward beating him the way he fights (up close and mixing it up)? Froch will bounce him at close quarters and has the long range game to dominate him. It's just it's been missing for the last 4 fights.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer u are right i did think AA might KO Froch, but i was wrong, indeed Froch showed superior boxing all nite, and i learned that AA is a boring fighter with little imagination, no real gears besides the same come forward lookin for the bomb...i think ward is a whole different ball of wax, lets hope and pray we see the day soon, but first things first, let froch get past the road warrior test, doable but not easy by any means
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
And anyway...us Cobra fans have every right to a little smug. Vids like this and all the haters comments have just failed and failed BIG time. This is why they have all done a runner as AA was humiliated in a way not seen before. This is what happens when people who don't do their research make dumb ass preditions lmao
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer dont get it twisted with smug or not, the best of boxings experts make mistakes, not necessarily about research, as the sweet science is the theater of the unexpected, if it were that easy then it would be no fun, just do research and you know, but know you dont, thats the beauty of the moment, the fight must be waged to truly know..and yes AA was exposed even moreso by Froch, who did a masterful job, high praise, but watch the smug until you beat ward johnson, bute, etc
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
It was unexpected in that froch resorted to the basics although anyone who has seen all of Froch's fights would of known he has an awesome stinging jab. Tbh I am not looking forward to him fighting Ward. Ward is another Dirrel in that all he can do is clinch. It's fighters like Ward and Direll that turn people away from the great sport and towards UFC :(
That is why I do respect kessler. At least he took it too Froch.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
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sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras i didnt see the ward bika dirty affair but im glad i missed it, would not be surprised if ward was dirty bcuz of Bika, the african has a reputation for being dirty, so ward im sure knows all the tricks, "protect yourself at all times" ...like hopkins, people hate him and we know he is dirty, like tyson, but you must appreciate the boxing talent in spite of the weaknesses, and i think dirty is weak, i hate those types too but am not too blind or racist to see talent when its there
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I can see the skills in Ward. He is good but do you believe he would have been allowed to head butt his way to victory against Kessler in any other country other than America. Take his fouling out and I dont see that he has enough to tangle with Froch or Johnson. As for Direll I dont even talk of him as a fighter anymore, he is a horrible character and a negative fighter. Racism has nothing to do with it. I love Glen Johnson and am glad he is in the show.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
i didnt see all that much, yes he did foul a couple times, but that overblown bullcrap dont fly, and like i said i have seen horrible judging and reffing in all countries, america is just like any other country, you get the good and the bad, the great ones and the assholes, that said ward fucken dominated kessler who did cry like a bitch, beat the man dont cry about it, but he couldnt and didnt, simple as that..then kes did beat froch, hey its all about styles
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@sugarraygras i love johson too, that is one nice dude...and i like froch in spite of his arrogance ....abraham is limited, dirrell is decent but not great and ward is good to great, depending on what happens in the next couple of fights, then the winner of the six should fight Bute, for more interesting scenarios
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@29Gixxer thats an ignorant comment about ward and direll, and if i didnt know better i would assume you are brit/european and racist on top of it...i think dirrel and ward and froch and kessler and johnson all deserve their respect as talented boxers, only idiots would rather watch that shitty ufc crap...if youre a real boxing fan you watched marquez katsidis last nite, a REAL fight!....the only one in the tourney that dont deserve respect is Green, who is shit
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
No way man. Are you seriously telling me that Ward and Direll do not constantly clinch? yeah i am brit although i suggest you watch their fights mate. Not so much at the lower level opponents but when fighting fighters like Froch/Bika.
This is not bias from me...it i fact that you can see by just watching them fight.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
not saying thats not part of their game, unfortunately, but its also part of boxing/look at hatton,did that all the time, berto2= as does hopkins, but i look beyond their weaknesses to their strengths as boxers, and i have to say that froch does look cleaner but that dont mean he wins because he is cleaner, you have to fight the fight, take care of business as he did against the limited AA, first deal with Johnson, who is not dirty but is aggressive, then deal with ward, skill and dirt combined
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@29Gixxer Ward is a dirty fighter. But after seeing him struggle against Bika I already know Carl will make him pay for his cheating Ways. I dont mind admitting that I fell asleep during the fight, on the floor, it was so negative' from Ward I just couldnt stay awake. If he gets into a head butting fight with Carl he will also lose.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
I think carl is def going to have to use his long range game with Ward. I think flyinghotwing thought I was disrepecting them as men by saying that although i am not...I am just pointing out that clinching is all they do. Anyone who denies that has either not seen them fight or just won't face the reality.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer you dont beat a kessler by just holding, you have to land punches , ward finds ways to do that inside and out, in spite of ruf or dirty tactics...
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
It was more the head with kessler. this was how he was taken out of the S6. Froch just opened up wounds inflicted on kess from Wards head. Ward won that fight although you can't deny he used his head. Yeah Ward's performace was imperssive against kess although it was the cuts inflicted by the head that ended the fight. It was a tale of 2 halfs really. One the one hand ward dominated, on the other he was dirty.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer and remember that although in boxing it sometimes means nothing if a beats b but b beats c and so on..but kessler did beat froch and ward did beat kessler, im just sayin, but of course styles make fights so we shall see in the long run how the cards fall...
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@29Gixxer Froch will be the last man standing. King Cobra has already won. Its just a matter of time for the negative energy of the haters to catch up with current events and disperse in utter shame. Their flawed views of Froch are out of time as Froch topples their heroes one after the other.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras
We have a problem Houston. It will prbably be ward vs froch in the final. have you seen the way Ward fights? The only reason why he has not been DQ is because he gets all his fights in the US. All the guy does is clinch and headbutt.
Froch can handle the headbutss...he will relish them although not so much the clinching.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer sorry nobody relishes from headbutts, and if the ref knows what he is doing he can take care of that, and america has nothing to do with the outcome, there are crooked sites in america, latin america, germany, england, canada, and so on...we pray for good judges and good reffing and decent fights, in spite of the ruf tactics that are also part of the sport
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
Froch is a fighter and would love a close fight like that. Just look at how he took AA's elbows and didn't even complain (despite AA moaning about legitimate body shots which the ref was having none of).
You just said you hadn't seen the fight mate...i suggest you watch it before you stick up for Ward :)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer i didnt see the ward bika ft and after a friend told me it was lousy and full of dirty bullcrap im glad i didnt, bika is not the most exciting fighter to watch, that doesnt mean havent seen ward fight before, i thought his performance against kessler was impressive, regardless of where it ws,he could have dominated him in dane land too.....inside speed....believe me i would love to see froch ward in the end, and i would root for a good fight and for the winner
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
I know I must sound as tho I'm a brit bashing the yanks but I'm not mate. Dirrell held Froch 11 times in round 7 alone. Search YT for 'Why Dirrel blew it' to see an unedited vid of how he fights. Like I said...you will see times where the guy actually lunges forwards to hold. Then there's ward, Hopkins etc.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer yes and hatton and others, i agree, not the most exciting fighters, but that doesnt take away from their skills and ability...instead of watching crappy dirrel why notn youtube tribute to hopkins, to see a real master of the craft at work
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
i'd agree that hatton clinched and used his weight to lean allot. He is not my concern thos as Froch is not fighting him :)
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer yes but we are just talking boxing and many a good fighter clinches too much, unfortunately but part of the sport, always has been....that said marquez is a thing of beauty to watch him fight an aggressive opponent, he hardly ever clinches and finds ways to deliver punishing body blows then moves away and looks for combos
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
I'm not actually concerned about Ward using his head against Froch as Froch is a tough MF. it's the excessive clinching that worries me. If Ward doesn't contantly clinch then carl has the long range game and toughness on the inside to beat him by a margin I think.
I do agree with hat you say about judes in all countries tho. It's just that Ward seems to get all of his fights in his back yard?
29Gixxer 1 year ago
this is true but good for you also since he has fought 3 times in the US, perhaps his test against a froch will have to be in europe or a neutral site.....and if ward is a holder and a dirty inside fighter, well then its just another test for froch to pass, isnt it, another hurdle to climb, but never lose sight of the first hurdle: one Road Warrior!
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
I hope that if he fights Froch, it's on neutral territory. Maybe somwhere like Sweden/Finland.
Constant holding maybe a test for Froch to pass but the rule book states that holding is illegal and will result in DQ. You seem like a fairly huble/unbias guy so why would you respect a fighter who is officially cheating (if he was to constantly hold that is)?
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer i respect hatton cuz he beat one of my all time favorites IN SPITE of holding, i respect tyson for his awesome power and talent( tho it faded afer 5 yrs ), i respect hopkins cuz he is a living legend, while dirty as many a talented boxer, the important thing is good refereeing, i was a sports official myself for 20 yrs and players or fighters will get away with what you allow, so get a good ref, suffer the consequences, you dont become great in boxing just by holding, you need skills!
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
hatton did not clinch anywhere near as bad as dirrell did against Froch tho.
This sums Dirrell up to a T
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I just can't respoect him for that.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer if you cant respect dirrel as a fighter and he beats up on abraham, then it takes away from frochs accomplishment last nite ...tho i must agree that if AA didnt resort to a dirty DQ tactic he probably has just enuf time in the end to KO dirrell
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyingho
OK, First of all I made that reference about respecting dirrell in the context of the Froch fight 9which you avoid as you know he was a disgrae that night). Secondly, seeing as you mentioned the AA Dirrell fight...even tho AA deserved to be DQ, Dirrell blatantly faked that injury. You could see him think about it and even the commentators thought the same way. If he can get a spasm attackk by a glancing blow...what is going to happen when he takes a real wack?
This is why he runs.
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer not sure if you can say he runs, thats part of boxing too, and even tho im not too sure about the faked injury in that case, it would not surprise me too much since i watched the showtime 360 episode 8 last nite and found the dirrel camps arguments for leaving the tournament shaky at best, lying at worst, but again, im not here to defend or attack dirrel for being a liar....i avoid what? i smoke lots of herb dude i cant even remember the froch dirrel fight to be honest
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing The story of FRoch Dirrell was Dirrell was negative and cuddly and Froch was coming forward and bossed the fight and won the fight by a country mile. Unless they have started taking champions titles off them for getting constantly held and for having to chase their opponent around all night.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras youre wooin in the glue or the bubbly or something, get a grip young man...........froch may indeed be the last man standing, i am not a hater, i give props to all great boxers, and carl is showing his mettle, but dont be fooled by the mountainous challenge, like a wise man may say, its not the mountain that is the challenge but it is the pebble in my shoe
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I am not sure that is wise. Just take the stone out and toss it over the shoulder. Or simply go bare footed and connect with the replenishing soil of 'GIA'. Froch is already at the montain top, your saw that last night. The Katsidis fight was a goody but Katsidis is all heart and thunder but no gears. Marquez should have made it easier. Froch however was handing defeat to an unbeaten fighter who everyone fought would dominate,for some reason. Just me and Gixer had it right.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras sounds to me your on frochs jok too tight, the marquez katsidis was a much better fight from a boxing perspective because there was drama, and both fighters were in it, i had katsidis only down 1 or 2 pts until he got dominated, but he did a much better job than did abraham last nite, so marquez' ability was put to a test much moreso than Froch's ..carl was smart enuf to carry out a gameplan against a limite tough fighter, and he did it beautifully but the fight itself sucked
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I respect your view but if there are sexual jokes to be made you are the spit roast with Juan on the back door and Katsidis taking the cake hole. Katsidis though exciting is a second rate fighter who has never been world champ, fighting a premier league Marquez who made it closer than it should have been. Abraham was an unbeaten champion who got schooled. You know this.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
wtv..thats yoru opinion, but i see katsidis alot tougher for marquez than was abraham for froch, thus we had a real fight in vegas, unlike the crap from helsinki, not taking anything from froch, he deserves credit, but im just sayin as a fan, it sounds like u didnt see the katsidis fight, top level or second tier, that boy was tuf as fuck to beat, and only a master would get his ass up from the left hook and continue working the way juan did, and i dont understand the sex jokes sorry
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I said he was a good fight and Katsidis is a warrior but Marquez should have not even been through the problems with him. I have watched a lot of Katsidis's fights but he is easy fodder at the top flight. Froch was faced with an opponent never bettered in the ring until last night. I prefered the Froch fight as both fighters are supposed to be at the same level, but Carl just owned him. His Mrs is loud and perhaps shouldnt be near the microphones next time, but think positive
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras if you watch both those fights and prefer the froch fight that tells me your not so much the boxing fan as you are a froch fan....that fight was weak as hell, sure carl did what he had to to beat the slow dimwitted armenian, but the marquez fight had excitement, something rarely seen in the helsinki affair....give marquez credit instead of trying to justify how lousy the tough aussie is, his effort was far superior to king artur ( who has lost 2 in a row by the way, not the first )
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing What two did Arthur lose?Dirrell bitched out cause he knew he would get knocked out. Marquez is a hall of famer fighting a club fighter. I think Marquez is a great, so was only suprised to see him struggle. He should have done what Froch did to Abraham. I am a Froch fan because he has earnt my respect through the way he fights. Put him in against a brawler from the club circuit and he will rumble the guy out of there just like Marquez should have done. Juan should not drink piss.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras youre a hater, if you knew boxing without bias you would realize that froch is nowhere near the level of a marquez right now, he can only hope to stay in the sport and continue to impress folks to reach those heights, again if you watched the marquez fight last nite you would show more respect since the younger well trained hungry katsidis landed a perfect left hook that juan didnt see, imagine if froch gets tagged by a perfect AA hook? then what..AD beat AA,
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@sugarraygras when an opponent connects an illegal late hit and the ref DQs him you lose the fight, and AD was winning on points, bitching or no bitching, the dude who didnt need to bitch by being dirty was AA< then perhaps he could have finished dirrell but he didnt so its a loss for AA, two in a row, and exposed, the very mediocre wild edison miranda pretty much exposed AA in their first fight
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing OK You are counting the Dirrell bullshit as legitimate lose, but Abraham wasnt beaten. Who else has ''beaten'' him?
sugarraygras 1 year ago
he was beaten by dirrel, and the first miranda fight im not too sure aa wone that, broken jaw and all, tough but against a wild swinging brainless opponent....and im not here to put down AA, we saw last nite that he is not too clever, besides a big punch,the superior boxer like Froch will always beat him....i like froch and will like to see him beat johnson and ward, but dont put the carriage ahead of the horse, just quite yet
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing I am putting it out there that Froch will win this competition. You say he is arrogant, but who else can say they fought Pascal,Taylor,Dirrell,Kessler and then Abraham in succession. He beat all but one according to the Kessler fans but yet the only guy to beat him had to take early retirement on the back of winning the fight. Kessler may have forced an even battle but Carl wins the War.He has deserved his arrogance.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras i would not be too surprised to see froch win it all either..if i had to bet i would put him in second place after ward, but dont feel sentimental either way, thats why i just hope to see good fights and cheer on the guy who wins...sure froch is arrogant but most great athletes are...when i was a kid my hero was muhammad ali, who folks loved to hate, but he backed up most of his conceited ways in the ring, lets hope carl can do the same...
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing Ward is a good fighter when he is allowed to cheat, but is that good for the sport. This isnt street fighting. If it were, Carl would take Ward straight out. But when you strap on the gloves you are excepting rules. If you win by breaking them then your victories are hollow. Ward was as Dirty as ever against Bika and if he hadnt have been, Bika would have taken him easy. As it turned out I still think Bika won it. Look at the faces of Wards wife and kids at the end of the fight.
sugarraygras 1 year ago
@sugarraygras cant speak for that fight since i didnt see it, if u say bika should have won i wonder about your objectivity when it comes to ward, from what i hear the scores were as bad as the froch AA debacle, lopsided...and uglier cuz of the dirty antics...i dont defend dirty, if froch and ward fight and ward is dirty then im all for carl, but you dont win by cheating, unless the judges or ref are crooked, nobody is allowing a fighter to cheat, the sport is more fucked by horrible decisions
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@sugarraygras ward is a good fighter when he is allowed to cheat? i dont think so, cheating would not make him a good fighter, i think you just hate on him cuz of a few fouls like you would hate a hopkins, who is a living legend, sure he has held on deep into his 40s with what all boxers possess as parts of the craft, to get away with whatever you can get away with, but that alone does you no good without talent
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
i agree from that tape that AD was clinching, but that is part of the sport, unless its excessive, and if it is the referee can warn then deduct points, thats the way it is, i see it flustered froch who then resorted to dirty tactics himself and rabbit punching, which wasnt addressed, except to say that AD complained to the ref, yes Froch came to fight and DIrrel to survive, thats the way it was, w/ regard to the Kessler fight, Froch lost by 2, 4 and 6 pts in Europe
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@sugarraygras dirrell did oupoint aa, and aa had a chance to redeem himself before he shot himself in the foot, so to speak, so he did lose...you guys criticize ward for being dirty and for legit rules, well he bit the bullet, if ward is dirty and it goes against him, so be it.
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@sugarraygras the only sex that sounds good related to these guys would have to be with frochs chick who has no business in the damned ring, but im sure has plenty of business on her knees in bed
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
Ward won't mix it up with froch at close range (if he does he's a gonna). If he cheats it will be excessive clinching although don't be surprised if he has points deducted for that in Europe, as what happened when Dirrell held against Froch
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer again, im not too sure about europe v. america,i have seen horrible judging and lousy refs in europe as well, and canada it happens too often, as in america, it depends on the quality of the ref to be honest, a guy like kenny bayliss would be fine......and i cant make predictions on ward froch to be honest, they have previous engagements, and i like to stay with one at a time, when and if the time comes like i said i wana see a good fight and will cheer the legitimate winner
flyinghotwing 1 year ago
@flyinghotwing
yeah, germany is notorius for some bad decisions. The problem is that it's only the US or USA. Europe. USA is where Ward is from but there many countries in Eurupe so the best place would be a country in Europe, It would be more fair to have the fight say in Sweden than the US...where Ward is from
29Gixxer 1 year ago
@29Gixxer yes i agree it should be somewhere in europe perhaps, but that is not to say that the judging or reffing would be any better, just because of the location, in the end the fighters have to make it happen and us as fans hope its not left in the hand of judges, but decided by KO or decisive wins that cant rob the average semi intelligent fan...
flyinghotwing 1 year ago