MANY OF THEM ON YOUTUBE -SINNERS, AND HYPOCRITES, THEMSELV ES ARE RELIGEOUS AND DECIEVED, FALSE DOCTRINES, THEY LIP SERVICE GOD AND JESUS , WERE ARE THEY WHEN THE POOR NEED HELP, OR TRUE PREACHING OF JESUS SETS US FREE FROM SLAVE OF SIN,AMEN
99.99% majority whom beliveth in their sinful acts and false doctrines and wickedness lifestyle of sin and greed, power, will end up in hell with them -false hood=false doctrines and false people ,and hyopcrites and all sinners as jesus said: those whom did those and live like that will never enter the kingdom of god. as written and spoken by jesus christ- king of kings , lord of lords- so whom do you obey ? jesus and god or satan voice and lying preachers, teachers, and false doctrines.
@themosesandelijah There are many false churches that is true but there are also many good faithful pastors preaching the word of God leading men and women to Christ teaching them to follow after Him. You and so many others here on yt like Finalcall07, boldforjesus, and others falsely think that your the only ones who know n love Jesus living their lives in holiness towards Him. Step back n look at the fruit growing out of your comments and videos and all u see is hate n condemnation very ugly
@themosesandelijah You should be sitting n learning of the Lord Jerome you have instead ran out trying to teach when its quite evidant you are not rightly dividing the word of God but twisting it in all sorts of false ways to try and fit your doctrines. Everyone has a testimony in what Jesus has done in thier lives but not everyone has been called to teach especialy when they mishandle God's word as you and your false guru Finalcall07 do taking scriptures out of context as u both do so often
there all going to a devil's hell and then off to the lake of fire, if jesus and his holy disciples stood next to this wolves in sheep clothing-fakes they and i would look like homless people , the holy disciples-true ones forsake this worldly lust and possesions, fame, and money -middle class and rich lifestyle , and sin, and become true repent and humble -holy ghost filled -new creature in christ and preach true and obey jesus words and do works show true faith , suffer for jesus name to end
I agree with this video. Religion is all about power, control and tax exemption. Religious leaders have a very comfortable life and generate huge wealth promising things that they cannot in reality deliver. The “religious dizziness” that plagues some people has an irrational dark side that results is horrific occurrences like Sept. 11th, July 7th, Waco, Jim Jones, etc. It’s amazing how some people get hooked!
who do they think they are? No one asks the CEO of planned parenthood why they have lots of things!! And they think we Christians are judgemental?? please...
You never ever hear any Christian preach the gospel about giving away all they own and giving it to the poor, but they have CD, seminars, DVDs, books, web sites and radio & TV shows endorsing prosperity, wealth, and fame.
The word of faith movement is pure witchcraft. The devil hides in plain sight because the people are so stupid. This guy preaches a damnable heresy. If God did not make it rain money for Jesus , why do you think he would make it rain for you? Kenneth Copeland needed a way to tap into the "black market" which was typically baptist in the south , and could'nt do it with a white boy so he raised up this idiot.
An american gospel taliored for the american culture ~ Independence & personal aggrandizement ~ What does the ol' community spirit ~ james 2 / 1 Corinthians 12:26/ Hebrews 12:14 ~ mean to americans
Guess what, Jesus was on the earth it is an un-denyable fact. Just ask any Jew.You just don't want to accept it because you are affraid of what will happen to you when you call on the name of Jesus.That box of fear and guilt yuor living in is taking it's tole on you.
I traveled in these circles when we lived in Tennessee. I went to Atlanta 4 a special meeting at Donald Battles church as part of the world harvest ministerial fellowship. After it was over, we got to go in the back along with the many body gaurds. I was very excited until the pastor came in and slapped his hands together and said very load, "that last statement you said out there had to have brought in at least $25,000 dollars." My heart sank! Since I have re-though the prosperity gospel,
@latabanza wow....thats awesome you got to see it so close up....i know it was probably hard but i would have loved to have seen the wovles that close up with there sheep cloths off....if you never heard of marjoe gortner do a youtube search on him .....he got tired of lieing to the masses and made a very interesting documentary
I say they deserve to be swindled out of their money. If you do not wish to use your rational and critical faculties to guide you in life then buyer beware.
Beware of False Prophets such as these who are leading people to hell. They as well as other False Prophets are deceitfully diverting peoples trust away from the Word of God and by doing so are themselves on their way to hell. What do False Prophets do, they destroy souls, and they themselves will be destroyed.(2 Peter 2:3) Ask God to expose these wicked prophets with his Word and ask for gifts of the Spirit such as Spiritual Discernment to reveal these things to your heart
These people preach to older and sick people who are easier to convince them to give money to them. Then they turn around and use most of that money on themselves. They are cheats. More like con artist is more of the word for them.
I believe JESUS CHRIST and his Apostles never charged anyone for a miracle and foregiveness of sins. the televangelists shouldn't be charging for miracles. if you think a friend or person is suicidal please urge the person to get help or get help by telling there family and friends.
If Jesus Christ is the son of God, but also god incarnate, then he created us born guilty with original sin; he charged us with eternal hellfire and the only way to repay the debt that he fabricated is to blindly believe in him. So yes, there was a charge.
these so called tongue speaking brainwashed emotion filled pentecostal fanatics are the cause of all this garabage read your bibles and get really saved
Who cares if the make the money and fraud people. GOD to them is spelled, M-O-N-E-Y, let them take the money from the poor and ignorant. BUYER BEWARE.
You cannot touch God's annoited. Oh, if you had of seen Solomon in his glory or the Israelites during their exodus out of Egypt. Go find a real enemy you liberal/republican filthy media scumbag. Next you'll turn your fury on a black president or something. You can't touch that either because it's God's doing. Try getting our troops home. Let's end this war or is that important. No, God's children are not gonna help WallStreet out of this mess. They didn't do it. The crooked politicians did!!!
Why do you even care about a church? Oh, the money going down the toilet money. I bet you'd love to get your stinkin' secular hands on it. Hipocrisy! They're legit. Why don't you go after a crooked politician or CIA FBI drug smuggling or something?
Maybe they should help the USA and Playboy and GMC Chrysler get out of the deficit. Leave them alone! At least they're not peddling filth. They're only talking about a God you don't want in America. Ask your God to give you some money. They didn't steal our tax returns you morons! Whose the real enemy? The media!
lol...these are the same guys who preach how hard it is for a rich man to get heaven...
DO ANY OF YOU RELIGOUS FOLLOWERS EVER GET THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE AND NO TAXES FOR THE RELIGOUS? FOOLS. The ellite WANT YOU TO BE RELIGOUS SO THEY CAN STEAL FROM US ALL AND ENSLAVE US.
one of the qualifications for a pastor is that they do not do it for flithy lucres sake.(ie money) so these people not only preach a false gospel they steal as well and god hates that... god bless you guys
so what is the issue here? it seems the enquiry is not entirely squeaky clean!
Governing authorities believing themselves to be above the law they protect by moving outside constitutional guidelines should take the plank out of their own enquiry first.
God is Speaking To His Church people... He wants repentance, and a Clean House and he said in his word to not be among these money hungry tele-evangelists.... and false prophets..
God is Speaking To His Church people... He wants repentance, and a Clean House and he said in his word to not be among these money hungry tele-evangelists.... and false prophets..
There should be about 50 other people investigated as well. Not too sure if Meyers should be on there though, she passed her audit w/ no issues and has even gotten rid of some of her more lavish items.
Hang them high!!!!! Wake up people. Giving to God is about taking care of your family and those in need in the Body of Christ. Not to prop-up a so called clergy. There is only one way to the kingdom of God---through Jesus. He is the Head of the Body.
There is no such thing as clergy -- laity. All are priest and have direct access to the throne of God. That is if you are born again.
This is Bull. The president, and senates don't have to live in poverty, but hear that the favor of God is on somebody, and theyre not living broke, and all of a sudden its a scam?? Not....Nobody questions the government but when it comes to the church, its such a big problem. Oh please...If the pastors was riding around with rags, and a bucket, their faith would really be questioned...But the gov can live it up as prosperous as they want. And they take more money from us than the church...
AMEN! Couldn't have said it better myself. I really appreciate Joyce's ministry. I have seen many of her shows from impoverished countries where the ministry has given so much to the people there.
It is also my understanding (can't quote sources so I may be mistaken) that this senator is an atheist.
What you don't understand is that these religous entities give money to the poor in these countries b/c they are paid to do so by BIG OIL COMPANIES. Does Summer Institute ring a bell, DING-A-LING?!
Since I'm such a DING-A-LING, why don't you educate me. Your vocabulary is obvious evidence of your intelligence. I have not heard or read anything negative regarding the Summer Institute (of which there are many auxiliary branches) and I have never heard of Joyce Meyer Ministries being associated with them. With that said, regardless of the motive for giving, these people are being helped. Why do you have a problem with that?
"Nobody questions the government but when it comes to the church, its such a big problem. "
R u kidding? First of all, very few government employees have high salaries, and even the Pres doesn't get more than $1 mil a year, which is much less than these preachers make.
Secondly, the government does something thats actually useful with that money (usually), like building roads, parks, public schools, ect.. Televangelists are useless to society, and most of their money comes from the poor.
Why shouldn't these big money preachers pay taxes? #1 They get to enjoy the freedom of religion to preach the message they do. They surely should help support it. #2 Jesus Christ himself paid his taxes to ceasar at the time. Jesus himself said render unto ceasars what is ceasars and render unto God what is Gods.
I think if a church becomes international church, it needs a money and it's possible pastors use this money to become rich and buy an airplane and other things like Kenneth Copeland.
But, It's better to follow small churches like Reno baptist church.
these are the small petty thiefs that get caught mind you - the real bastards are the large organized religions from which your smaller ones a but mere spin offs - you see? It is all based on bullshit money machines. Been like that for thousands of years - the rest of us see it clearly..
Kenneth Copeland is a con man. He believes that people who send him money deserve to get taken. That's how people like him think. Jesus was against materialism. These guys don't believe in the bible, they're sharks! The rewards were never meant to mean material rewards. He lives in a massive mansion; an extravagance that a 'real' man of God would forgo to give to the poor or to spreading the gospel. But you can't STOP people from giving their money away. Otherwise it wouldn't be a free country.
well seeing how i got it free i couldnt tell ya. but i do use it for something besides watching videos on youtube. i do talk to people who need an ear or shoulder to cry on. i try to give a smile when i can to some one whos down. i have taken people who were homeless into my house and fed others even though i dont have much. so for one woman i dont think i do to bad.
why didnt any of these so called men of God use their planes and cars ect to get people out of new orleans or house any of the people ewho have been paying their way all these years. id love to see them open homeless shelters or homes for people instead of the next biggest church. judgement day is going to be a big surprise for some people i think.
KCM supports many churches, including many in N.O. Even if Kenneth Copeland did not physically lift refugees out of the Katrina, his ministry was doing all it could. I agree there are alot better ways to spend money than on an 18000sqft home but hey, can you honestly say you have never spent money selfishly?
you're using a computer aren't you? How many mouths could that feed?
Grassley is apparantly concerned about tax revenue. It would be encouraging to see him concerned about the $8 billion a month we are spending on war against a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11, by the president's own admission.
if he was how could he question men and women that are so heavily anoited in the word of god.. this man is not driven by justice but by jealousy which is blinding him from seeing the holy spirits presence upon them.
The "prosperty gospel" is less consistent with the Christian faith, and more consistent with Western Consumerism. I spent three years in a third-world country and have been able to see this clearly from the outside-in. We need to wake up.
SO !!! The Vatican has 2 billion in assets whats the big deal about these pissants !!!
The problem lies in the McChurch concept . You make your living by telling people that if they walk into your building once a week and throw your weekly wages into the plate , then you will be whisked off to heaven some day.
McChurch will not save you folks . Study the Karaite faith.
Why is this information so shocking? The Church has been pimping the masses of the people from time immemorial. Many of these religious leaders are pimps preying on the gullible and the naive, the poor and the weak minded. Don't be surprised if we don't hear that TBN is now being investigated since TBN is the great Mothership from which many of these great televangelists come.
Agreed. TBN is a dangerous tool. If all they did was teach the Bible, it would be a righteous channel but they have created the creepy evangelical culture. This, coming from a Christ follower.
There is no story here. Anyone in the US can give cash, property, goods and services, or their opinion to anyone they choose. The receiver can use those gifts as they see fit, they aren't bound by any rule or law unless stated in the donation.
Isn't the IRS supposed to handle these sorts of things anyway? I think an inquiry by the Senate is overkill and demonstrative of a vendetta not a life long mission.
The issue is taxes. Grassley is a christian himself and they would all be smart to co-operate with him or it will go to the IRS and they will be fully exposed.
They take their inflated pay, which they and their friends decide on, open up businesses which make more money off the church and say, "ohh, I make my money from my business and love offerings", all while claiming their toys as church property so they don't have to be taxed on it.
Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution states the powers of Congress. And this inquiry doesn't fall under anything I've read. You pointed out correctly that the IRS should take the lead on this, but not a Senator.
What's happening is that these people are being noticed because of their bankaccounts instead of their strides toward bettering others. But if this is truly newsworthy then the media should cover all that they do, not just their material possessions.
There is a slight flaw in your comment. Yes, anyone can give to whom he or she please. However, if a particular church has filed under the 501 C3 tax exemption status then there is a Protocol by which that particular church must abide and guidelines that must be followed.
You must be refering to the term excess benefit, which is the only thing under the code that would apply. But the IRS would have to concider all the transactions and holdings and then measure the one against their findings.
cont.. even so, the one who may have received the excess benefit simply pays an additional tax for the action. I see no flaw...the church or nonprofit can still do whatever it wants with the money in their coffers
They must have a board, but if the board decides to give away the money, or allow anyone they choose to use the equipment purchased, they can. The problem arises when the gifts become extravagant. This is not based on what the average person considers extravagant.
Cont. Extravagant reflects the amount of money or services given to one individual compared to the overall transactions the organization commits to. Ie if a person receives 10 dollars of a 20 dollar donation it would be looked at a extravagant. On the other hand, if someone receives 1 million of a 10 million dollar donation it wouldn't be extravagant.
You'll be surprised! Just exposing people can be quite effective. Many of these people, if found guilty could lose thousands of Church members, as well as be forced to pay back his or her ill gotten gains.
so many ministers have fallen over the years, just gota get the rest keep shrinking christianity
starscreamdkmo 2 months ago
MANY OF THEM ON YOUTUBE -SINNERS, AND HYPOCRITES, THEMSELV ES ARE RELIGEOUS AND DECIEVED, FALSE DOCTRINES, THEY LIP SERVICE GOD AND JESUS , WERE ARE THEY WHEN THE POOR NEED HELP, OR TRUE PREACHING OF JESUS SETS US FREE FROM SLAVE OF SIN,AMEN
themosesandelijah 3 months ago
99.99% majority whom beliveth in their sinful acts and false doctrines and wickedness lifestyle of sin and greed, power, will end up in hell with them -false hood=false doctrines and false people ,and hyopcrites and all sinners as jesus said: those whom did those and live like that will never enter the kingdom of god. as written and spoken by jesus christ- king of kings , lord of lords- so whom do you obey ? jesus and god or satan voice and lying preachers, teachers, and false doctrines.
themosesandelijah 3 months ago
@themosesandelijah There are many false churches that is true but there are also many good faithful pastors preaching the word of God leading men and women to Christ teaching them to follow after Him. You and so many others here on yt like Finalcall07, boldforjesus, and others falsely think that your the only ones who know n love Jesus living their lives in holiness towards Him. Step back n look at the fruit growing out of your comments and videos and all u see is hate n condemnation very ugly
GreggDuncanMcLean1 3 months ago
@themosesandelijah You should be sitting n learning of the Lord Jerome you have instead ran out trying to teach when its quite evidant you are not rightly dividing the word of God but twisting it in all sorts of false ways to try and fit your doctrines. Everyone has a testimony in what Jesus has done in thier lives but not everyone has been called to teach especialy when they mishandle God's word as you and your false guru Finalcall07 do taking scriptures out of context as u both do so often
GreggDuncanMcLean1 3 months ago
there all going to a devil's hell and then off to the lake of fire, if jesus and his holy disciples stood next to this wolves in sheep clothing-fakes they and i would look like homless people , the holy disciples-true ones forsake this worldly lust and possesions, fame, and money -middle class and rich lifestyle , and sin, and become true repent and humble -holy ghost filled -new creature in christ and preach true and obey jesus words and do works show true faith , suffer for jesus name to end
themosesandelijah 3 months ago
Harold Camping needs to be raptured to a maximum security prison.
kipptumor 8 months ago
it's truly sickening how much illegit these bible thumpers are. Put them all in jail for fraud! Oh yea and burn their churchs down
weirdguy75 9 months ago
I agree with this video. Religion is all about power, control and tax exemption. Religious leaders have a very comfortable life and generate huge wealth promising things that they cannot in reality deliver. The “religious dizziness” that plagues some people has an irrational dark side that results is horrific occurrences like Sept. 11th, July 7th, Waco, Jim Jones, etc. It’s amazing how some people get hooked!
RATIONALMIND001 1 year ago
@RATIONALMIND001
No Religion is nto about that...
Man made it to be liek that, but when it was created it was a good thing...
Man always wanted to know the supirior '' Man'' (God)...
Unfortunely, people are so cruel, that turns things to stone...
Christianity, it's about helping people, and loving eachother, that's the will of God... Not to go to chruch every day...
We need to study a lot of views, we need to have open minds, so we can respect eachothers belives =)
Cheers
Antunez99 9 months ago
who do they think they are? No one asks the CEO of planned parenthood why they have lots of things!! And they think we Christians are judgemental?? please...
girloffaith16 1 year ago
the berny madoff of faith.....but this wont stop me from believing what Christ has done for me...JN 3:16
mrjjnana 1 year ago
You never ever hear any Christian preach the gospel about giving away all they own and giving it to the poor, but they have CD, seminars, DVDs, books, web sites and radio & TV shows endorsing prosperity, wealth, and fame.
TVWriterGuy 1 year ago
The only God these carnies worship is pure, untaxed Capitalism.
kipptumor 1 year ago
The word of faith movement is pure witchcraft. The devil hides in plain sight because the people are so stupid. This guy preaches a damnable heresy. If God did not make it rain money for Jesus , why do you think he would make it rain for you? Kenneth Copeland needed a way to tap into the "black market" which was typically baptist in the south , and could'nt do it with a white boy so he raised up this idiot.
tbursee 1 year ago
An american gospel taliored for the american culture ~ Independence & personal aggrandizement ~ What does the ol' community spirit ~ james 2 / 1 Corinthians 12:26/ Hebrews 12:14 ~ mean to americans
TJae1 1 year ago
the power of the american gospel ~ (blushes, my bad)
TJae1 1 year ago
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TJae1 1 year ago
The gospel of prosperity-isnt that a contradiction
thoomoo 1 year ago
Investigate these frauds!
Nuker1337 2 years ago
Guess what, Jesus was on the earth it is an un-denyable fact. Just ask any Jew.You just don't want to accept it because you are affraid of what will happen to you when you call on the name of Jesus.That box of fear and guilt yuor living in is taking it's tole on you.
Romans10:9
latabanza 2 years ago
I traveled in these circles when we lived in Tennessee. I went to Atlanta 4 a special meeting at Donald Battles church as part of the world harvest ministerial fellowship. After it was over, we got to go in the back along with the many body gaurds. I was very excited until the pastor came in and slapped his hands together and said very load, "that last statement you said out there had to have brought in at least $25,000 dollars." My heart sank! Since I have re-though the prosperity gospel,
latabanza 2 years ago
@latabanza wow....thats awesome you got to see it so close up....i know it was probably hard but i would have loved to have seen the wovles that close up with there sheep cloths off....if you never heard of marjoe gortner do a youtube search on him .....he got tired of lieing to the masses and made a very interesting documentary
ihaveaverybadcold 1 year ago
The Senator is an idiot! I wonder if the people of Iowa put him in office so he could focus on this subject! This clown would'nt get my vote!
unclequilly36 2 years ago
I say they deserve to be swindled out of their money. If you do not wish to use your rational and critical faculties to guide you in life then buyer beware.
SMSBJM1981 2 years ago
Beware of False Prophets such as these who are leading people to hell. They as well as other False Prophets are deceitfully diverting peoples trust away from the Word of God and by doing so are themselves on their way to hell. What do False Prophets do, they destroy souls, and they themselves will be destroyed.(2 Peter 2:3) Ask God to expose these wicked prophets with his Word and ask for gifts of the Spirit such as Spiritual Discernment to reveal these things to your heart
Rylucero 2 years ago
@Rylucero STFU you are FAKE too.
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Rylucero 2 years ago
These people preach to older and sick people who are easier to convince them to give money to them. Then they turn around and use most of that money on themselves. They are cheats. More like con artist is more of the word for them.
hardrockinsteve123 2 years ago
Jesus Christ really existed so please don't cause a person to lose thier faith in Jesus Christ
ROBOTASSHOLE 2 years ago
I believe JESUS CHRIST and his Apostles never charged anyone for a miracle and foregiveness of sins. the televangelists shouldn't be charging for miracles. if you think a friend or person is suicidal please urge the person to get help or get help by telling there family and friends.
ROBOTASSHOLE 2 years ago
@ROBOTASSHOLE
If Jesus Christ is the son of God, but also god incarnate, then he created us born guilty with original sin; he charged us with eternal hellfire and the only way to repay the debt that he fabricated is to blindly believe in him. So yes, there was a charge.
mcpencil 1 year ago
these so called tongue speaking brainwashed emotion filled pentecostal fanatics are the cause of all this garabage read your bibles and get really saved
harold3032 2 years ago
they should use the money to help the poor , sick ,elderly, widows and others not to use the donated money to enrich themselves
ROBOTASSHOLE 2 years ago
well the dollar bills do have "in God we trust" written on them. So its clearly logical, the more money you have the more you trust God.
ABdadaSURD 2 years ago
lol- interesting way of looking at that.
primequeen 2 years ago
Who cares if the make the money and fraud people. GOD to them is spelled, M-O-N-E-Y, let them take the money from the poor and ignorant. BUYER BEWARE.
BennySinn 3 years ago
You cannot touch God's annoited. Oh, if you had of seen Solomon in his glory or the Israelites during their exodus out of Egypt. Go find a real enemy you liberal/republican filthy media scumbag. Next you'll turn your fury on a black president or something. You can't touch that either because it's God's doing. Try getting our troops home. Let's end this war or is that important. No, God's children are not gonna help WallStreet out of this mess. They didn't do it. The crooked politicians did!!!
realmthr 3 years ago
Why do you even care about a church? Oh, the money going down the toilet money. I bet you'd love to get your stinkin' secular hands on it. Hipocrisy! They're legit. Why don't you go after a crooked politician or CIA FBI drug smuggling or something?
realmthr 3 years ago
Maybe they should help the USA and Playboy and GMC Chrysler get out of the deficit. Leave them alone! At least they're not peddling filth. They're only talking about a God you don't want in America. Ask your God to give you some money. They didn't steal our tax returns you morons! Whose the real enemy? The media!
realmthr 3 years ago
Matthew 19:23. Amen.
Mofo3210 3 years ago
lol...these are the same guys who preach how hard it is for a rich man to get heaven...
DO ANY OF YOU RELIGOUS FOLLOWERS EVER GET THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE AND NO TAXES FOR THE RELIGOUS? FOOLS. The ellite WANT YOU TO BE RELIGOUS SO THEY CAN STEAL FROM US ALL AND ENSLAVE US.
blaziermissy 3 years ago
one of the qualifications for a pastor is that they do not do it for flithy lucres sake.(ie money) so these people not only preach a false gospel they steal as well and god hates that... god bless you guys
laura686979 3 years ago
who the fuck says commode anymore? this guy is one sketchy asshole
bassandbud 3 years ago
so what is the issue here? it seems the enquiry is not entirely squeaky clean!
Governing authorities believing themselves to be above the law they protect by moving outside constitutional guidelines should take the plank out of their own enquiry first.
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Amused Aussie observing Americans running amok
thedivinemisswhite 3 years ago
God is Speaking To His Church people... He wants repentance, and a Clean House and he said in his word to not be among these money hungry tele-evangelists.... and false prophets..
sheez 3 years ago
God is Speaking To His Church people... He wants repentance, and a Clean House and he said in his word to not be among these money hungry tele-evangelists.... and false prophets..
sheez 3 years ago
you are right GOD bless you ,
blueghostohio 3 years ago
There should be about 50 other people investigated as well. Not too sure if Meyers should be on there though, she passed her audit w/ no issues and has even gotten rid of some of her more lavish items.
shekinahgloria 3 years ago
Hang them high!!!!! Wake up people. Giving to God is about taking care of your family and those in need in the Body of Christ. Not to prop-up a so called clergy. There is only one way to the kingdom of God---through Jesus. He is the Head of the Body.
There is no such thing as clergy -- laity. All are priest and have direct access to the throne of God. That is if you are born again.
This is good news!!!!!
nomadak47 3 years ago
This is Bull. The president, and senates don't have to live in poverty, but hear that the favor of God is on somebody, and theyre not living broke, and all of a sudden its a scam?? Not....Nobody questions the government but when it comes to the church, its such a big problem. Oh please...If the pastors was riding around with rags, and a bucket, their faith would really be questioned...But the gov can live it up as prosperous as they want. And they take more money from us than the church...
jamie1886 3 years ago
jamie1886
AMEN! Couldn't have said it better myself. I really appreciate Joyce's ministry. I have seen many of her shows from impoverished countries where the ministry has given so much to the people there.
It is also my understanding (can't quote sources so I may be mistaken) that this senator is an atheist.
k9Nemesis 3 years ago
What you don't understand is that these religous entities give money to the poor in these countries b/c they are paid to do so by BIG OIL COMPANIES. Does Summer Institute ring a bell, DING-A-LING?!
blaziermissy 3 years ago
Since I'm such a DING-A-LING, why don't you educate me. Your vocabulary is obvious evidence of your intelligence. I have not heard or read anything negative regarding the Summer Institute (of which there are many auxiliary branches) and I have never heard of Joyce Meyer Ministries being associated with them. With that said, regardless of the motive for giving, these people are being helped. Why do you have a problem with that?
k9Nemesis 3 years ago
"Nobody questions the government but when it comes to the church, its such a big problem. "
R u kidding? First of all, very few government employees have high salaries, and even the Pres doesn't get more than $1 mil a year, which is much less than these preachers make.
Secondly, the government does something thats actually useful with that money (usually), like building roads, parks, public schools, ect.. Televangelists are useless to society, and most of their money comes from the poor.
jetboyJ22 3 years ago 2
Why shouldn't these big money preachers pay taxes? #1 They get to enjoy the freedom of religion to preach the message they do. They surely should help support it. #2 Jesus Christ himself paid his taxes to ceasar at the time. Jesus himself said render unto ceasars what is ceasars and render unto God what is Gods.
tonymice 3 years ago
I think if a church becomes international church, it needs a money and it's possible pastors use this money to become rich and buy an airplane and other things like Kenneth Copeland.
But, It's better to follow small churches like Reno baptist church.
God bless you all.
bornagainchristianus 3 years ago
these are the small petty thiefs that get caught mind you - the real bastards are the large organized religions from which your smaller ones a but mere spin offs - you see? It is all based on bullshit money machines. Been like that for thousands of years - the rest of us see it clearly..
NoBullOnlyFacts 3 years ago
Kenneth Copeland is a con man. He believes that people who send him money deserve to get taken. That's how people like him think. Jesus was against materialism. These guys don't believe in the bible, they're sharks! The rewards were never meant to mean material rewards. He lives in a massive mansion; an extravagance that a 'real' man of God would forgo to give to the poor or to spreading the gospel. But you can't STOP people from giving their money away. Otherwise it wouldn't be a free country.
pos777 4 years ago
9-11 was not the only reason we went to war. Or are you to stupid to think for yourself.
ccdhuf 4 years ago
Kenny has many homes and airplanes. If you send me 10 million and I keep 5 for myself and give the rest to help others am I a man of god?
ccdhuf 4 years ago
btw i think politicians should be next
MusicalMosely 4 years ago
well seeing how i got it free i couldnt tell ya. but i do use it for something besides watching videos on youtube. i do talk to people who need an ear or shoulder to cry on. i try to give a smile when i can to some one whos down. i have taken people who were homeless into my house and fed others even though i dont have much. so for one woman i dont think i do to bad.
MusicalMosely 4 years ago
why didnt any of these so called men of God use their planes and cars ect to get people out of new orleans or house any of the people ewho have been paying their way all these years. id love to see them open homeless shelters or homes for people instead of the next biggest church. judgement day is going to be a big surprise for some people i think.
MusicalMosely 4 years ago
KCM supports many churches, including many in N.O. Even if Kenneth Copeland did not physically lift refugees out of the Katrina, his ministry was doing all it could. I agree there are alot better ways to spend money than on an 18000sqft home but hey, can you honestly say you have never spent money selfishly?
you're using a computer aren't you? How many mouths could that feed?
SavanahFloC 4 years ago
Grassley is apparantly concerned about tax revenue. It would be encouraging to see him concerned about the $8 billion a month we are spending on war against a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11, by the president's own admission.
jephthah007 4 years ago
this man claims to be a man of god!!!
if he was how could he question men and women that are so heavily anoited in the word of god.. this man is not driven by justice but by jealousy which is blinding him from seeing the holy spirits presence upon them.
carzxxx 4 years ago
You need to wake up as well ! I would like to spend one day in your poor life !
Jesusismybrother0 4 years ago
The "prosperty gospel" is less consistent with the Christian faith, and more consistent with Western Consumerism. I spent three years in a third-world country and have been able to see this clearly from the outside-in. We need to wake up.
erikleemarshall 4 years ago
SO !!! The Vatican has 2 billion in assets whats the big deal about these pissants !!!
The problem lies in the McChurch concept . You make your living by telling people that if they walk into your building once a week and throw your weekly wages into the plate , then you will be whisked off to heaven some day.
McChurch will not save you folks . Study the Karaite faith.
eretzsus 4 years ago
Why is this information so shocking? The Church has been pimping the masses of the people from time immemorial. Many of these religious leaders are pimps preying on the gullible and the naive, the poor and the weak minded. Don't be surprised if we don't hear that TBN is now being investigated since TBN is the great Mothership from which many of these great televangelists come.
Falasha22 4 years ago
Agreed. TBN is a dangerous tool. If all they did was teach the Bible, it would be a righteous channel but they have created the creepy evangelical culture. This, coming from a Christ follower.
hickoryhop 4 years ago
There is no story here. Anyone in the US can give cash, property, goods and services, or their opinion to anyone they choose. The receiver can use those gifts as they see fit, they aren't bound by any rule or law unless stated in the donation.
Isn't the IRS supposed to handle these sorts of things anyway? I think an inquiry by the Senate is overkill and demonstrative of a vendetta not a life long mission.
grimesgab 4 years ago 2
The issue is taxes. Grassley is a christian himself and they would all be smart to co-operate with him or it will go to the IRS and they will be fully exposed.
They take their inflated pay, which they and their friends decide on, open up businesses which make more money off the church and say, "ohh, I make my money from my business and love offerings", all while claiming their toys as church property so they don't have to be taxed on it.
gimmeyomoneysucka 4 years ago
Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution states the powers of Congress. And this inquiry doesn't fall under anything I've read. You pointed out correctly that the IRS should take the lead on this, but not a Senator.
What's happening is that these people are being noticed because of their bankaccounts instead of their strides toward bettering others. But if this is truly newsworthy then the media should cover all that they do, not just their material possessions.
Fair is fair, right?
grimesgab 4 years ago
There is a slight flaw in your comment. Yes, anyone can give to whom he or she please. However, if a particular church has filed under the 501 C3 tax exemption status then there is a Protocol by which that particular church must abide and guidelines that must be followed.
Falasha22 4 years ago
You must be refering to the term excess benefit, which is the only thing under the code that would apply. But the IRS would have to concider all the transactions and holdings and then measure the one against their findings.
grimesgab 4 years ago
cont.. even so, the one who may have received the excess benefit simply pays an additional tax for the action. I see no flaw...the church or nonprofit can still do whatever it wants with the money in their coffers
grimesgab 4 years ago
But can they do anything they want to and still keep their tax-exempt status?
formeyousee 4 years ago
They must have a board, but if the board decides to give away the money, or allow anyone they choose to use the equipment purchased, they can. The problem arises when the gifts become extravagant. This is not based on what the average person considers extravagant.
grimesgab 4 years ago
Cont. Extravagant reflects the amount of money or services given to one individual compared to the overall transactions the organization commits to. Ie if a person receives 10 dollars of a 20 dollar donation it would be looked at a extravagant. On the other hand, if someone receives 1 million of a 10 million dollar donation it wouldn't be extravagant.
grimesgab 4 years ago
Cont.2 But the individual who receives the monies the board allots must report them to the IRS on his or her return.
grimesgab 4 years ago
I also wonder about maintaining their "non for profit" status. How can they jepordize that by wrong doing? I'm trying to learn more about this stuff.
formeyousee 4 years ago
The CHURCH lol....It will rape you or rob you that goes for all
SPACE3200 4 years ago
what the fuck is anyone going to do about it
SPACE3200 4 years ago
You'll be surprised! Just exposing people can be quite effective. Many of these people, if found guilty could lose thousands of Church members, as well as be forced to pay back his or her ill gotten gains.
Falasha22 4 years ago