If you believe her story (and why wouldn't you) then there were 4 shots. 1. Hit Kennedy in the neck 2. Hit tague on the street 3. Hit her husband as she just described 4. Took Kennedy's head off. 4 shots is 2 shooters, it's that simple.
Well, Nellie did get one thing right. I remember some idiots tried to criticize Mr. Kennedy, they thought she was trying to get out of the car. Well, none of us know for sure what we'd have done under the same circumstances, . "Judge not, lest ye be judged".
Old lady, in the scene of the crime, traumatized no doubt..I know I would be. She's told what happed that day by the men. That's whar happened in the 60's, women did not get to have a point of view. Fast forward 40 years and you're surprised at the sketchiness of her memory? Please people..There is no need to call her "old hag" or take for granted the technology that allows us to review the events frame by frame.
she is a lying old hag if you notice she said after jfk was shot in the throat jackie said "they killed my husband, his brains our in my lap." well jfk's brains were'nt blown out until after the third s shot. and if you watch the footage of the assassination mrs connally didnt pull her husband down into her lap until after the third shot. and if you watch the interviews with john connally after jfk was killed he changed his story a few times and she also dont mention how her husband was hit
she is a lying old hag if you notice she said after jfk was shot in the throat jackie said "they killed my husband, his brains our in my lap." well jfk's brains were'nt blown out until after the third s shot. and if you watch the footage of the assassination mrs connally didnt pull her husband down into her lap until after the third shot. and if you watch the interviews with john connally after jfk was killed he changed his story a few times and she also dont mention how her husband was hit
Notice Nellie said she heard the shot, then saw JFK grab his throat, then John Connally turned right, then left, while turning back he was hit. totally inconsistent with the Warren Commission single bullet fantasy! John Connally always said he was hit with a separate bullet. William Greer, Secret Service agent, and Limo driver, said right after the assassination, that there were "Bullets coming from every direction"!
@booferbill Jackie didn't try to leave the car, though it seems that way. Jackie saw her husband's brain tissue on the back of the car and tried to get it and collect it before it fell off the car. She was heard saying, "I have a piece of his brain in my hand." She thought it may help in the hospital when doctors were trying to save her husband.
@thegreatbeliever Actually she tried to place the tissue back in her husbands head. All should under stand that she was reacting and not thinking in what was a few seconds at most.
@booferbill@booferbill Jackie didn't try to leave the car, though it seems that way. Jackie saw her husband's brain tissue on the back of the car and tried to get it and collect it before it fell off the car. She was heard saying, "I have a piece of his brain in my hand." She thought it may help in the hospital when doctors were trying to save her husband.
@booferbill Think for a minute. When her husband was first hit she didn't know what was happening. and then came the head shot. Not thinking and in shock she climed out onto the trunk of the car picked up some of her husbands brain tissue and she tried to place back in his head. All in about 5 seconds.
Nellie Connally is a very nice lady but she's wrong. She didn't pull John over until the 3rd shot that hit Kennedy. She said it was the second shot. The Second shot hit both men at the same time.
@TELEVISIONARCHIVES "Nellie Connally is a very nice lady but she's wrong .... the 3rd shot that hit Kennedy. She said it was the second shot. The Second shot hit both men at the same time"
The funniest post by this cdd guy. After all the venom and innuendo he is spewing about JFK, he says about Thomas Jefferson and his relationship with a female slave. " Any real proof of that or is it just lore?" No one can take this guy seriously.
Anyone who works for a non-profit knows that a non-profit could get audited at anytime and that the non-profit has to be careful what it does and not engage in poltiical activity that could cause it to lose its non-profit tax-exempt status. I totally agree with what the Kennedys did in this regard. They checked into radical groups of both the left and the right. They were concerned about the climate of hatred and extremism in the country and the groups that fostered it.
After 1 yr of marriage a friend said of Jackie, "She was wandering around looking like a survivor of an airplane crash." (Reeves p 116) JFK did Mary Pinchot Meyer in about thirty WH visits from Jan '62 to Nov '63. She was mysteriously murdered in 1964 and her diary of their affair ended up at the CIA.
The CIA got JFK's chestnuts out of the fire , covered his bare ass chaphides and JFK betrayed them by saying he was going to "shatter the CIA into a 1000 pieces"
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JFK did Fiddle and Faddle, SS code names for 21 and 23 year & staff members hired mostly for sex. JFK tested dangerous drugs on them without their knowledge by putting it in their drinks. WH intern Marion "Mimi" Beardsley whose married name is Fahnestock was 19 when JFK raped her (statutory rape - the age of consent was 21 in DC at the time). A powerful older man preying on vulnerable young women is what sexual harassment is all about.
@cdddraftsman You obsssessed with sex & killing, you old fart? How 'bout that Ronald Reagan? Due to Ronnie's anti-commie paranoia, he funded the fascist governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and the remains of Nicaragua's fascist dictator Anastasio Somoza's National Guard (that happy band of torturers!), governments who killed tens of thousands of their countrymen. Now: Take that information and start posting it on Ronald Reagan videos, you old fool.
@bapyou "that happy band of torturers!" Well judging by how many communists there are spewing there venum here at YT , I'd have to say this "happy band" wasn't too effective. BTW how did you escape? Sell your mothers soul for the tail end of an anchovy?
@cdddraftsman Glad to see a useless fuckwad like yourself own up to the right wing's support for RONALD REAGAN'S fascists and torturers in Central America: The Death Squads in Guatemala & El Salvador & the Contras in Nicaragua. Usually dumb right wing fucks like yourself fall all over themselves screaming about how Ronald Reagan was next in purity to Jesus Christ himself. I give you ten points for honesty in your admission of support for New World fascism. Cheers.
@bapyou "Glad to see a useless f*****d like yourself own up to the right wing's support for RONALD REAGAN"
You don't sound like you're glad? You sound like all the other delusional squack puppets at YT who hate the fact that the USG polices the world 24/7/365 w/carrier battle groups in all oceans of the world. You sound like you hate the fact that the right side won the 'Cold War'. Typical for a 'Hatriot' to do so :
@bapyou "New World fascism" is just a fanciful dream of an old world goose stepping jackboot wearing Lebensborn Nazi like my bastard son Dr. Lowry. His heroes are George W. (dumb as a fence post) Bush and Richard "The Crook" Nixon, who he considers the greatest Presidents the US ever had, and the cross dressing cocksucking mastermind of the Warren Commission fable, J. Edgar Hoover.
I wish I could point a finger at him, but there are 4 pointing back at me.
@bapyou he is on EVERY jfk vid trying to convince everyone LHO acted alone. there are a few like him. middle aged. no life. spends all of his time trying to convince the world there is no conspiracy and a nobody like LHO brought down the worlds most powerful man by himself
Thomas Jefferson fathered children with some of his female slaves.......I guess the constitution isnt worth the parchment it was written on...........
Okay, you win...cddd i guess because kennedy was a whoremaster oswald should have been the lonenut shooter and taken him out......"truckloads" of hookers......he must have been on some good vitamins......so there were i guess literally groups of hookers hanging in the whitehouse.......if you really knew your stuff you would know that hookers r a common commodity in the worlds of bussiness and politics...........
Truckloads yes .... but not entire cruiseliners full !
At one point they had to make a decision on whether or not they should dredge the Potomac River and install a special 'handicapped ramp' (*) from the White House directly to the ship !
True story hushed up by The History Channel !
(*) Predates current ADA standards by a 'Moon Shot'
Silly show. Watch the clip from the Larry Kind show in 1992. There Nelly Connolly says she heard a noise and saw Kennedy was hit (SHOT 1) he grabbed his throat, then, next shot (SHOT 2), her husband was hit. Then, next shot (SHOT 3), Kennedy's brains were blown out.
John Connally +Nelly Connally were interviewed together by Larry King, and she said that. 3 shots that all hit. Not the magic bullet theory of the Warren Commission
She probably thought it was time to tell the truth, after 30 years.
cddickless is a lying piece of shit disinformation agent, a goose stepping Nazi, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and prepare to piss your pants in laughter at this degenerate asshole being exposed for what he is.
If this cowardly traitor with a deep rooted need to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
@VinnyVoom444 look at almost every JFK assassination post on youtube, cdddickless has his lying, disinformation CIA crap all over every piece of video about the assassination. He is part of the conspiracy in my opinion, because he takes every opportunity he can to be part of the disinformation machine that consistantly tries to ridicule anything but the Warren Commission fantasy about the assassination.
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"many credible people have come forward on this case....."
Name one who isn't highly suspect and lacks verification ?
"dealy plaza is geograghically the perfect design for a crossfire!!!!"
What a great idea ! Fire a shot in FRONT of JFK (Grassy Knoll) in order to frame a patsy who's gun was to be found BEHIND JFK (TSBD) when he was killed ?
Hmmmm .... Really ?
Who was running your op ? The 'Apple Dumpling Gang' ...... or the 'Salvation Army' ......
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"Weisberg cannot accurately be called ct'er, because he did not speculate about who might have been involved in the assassination."
He did speculate about everything else and managed thru shear ignorance to get wrong every conclusion that he ever talked about .... not surprising since he had no training in any of the feilds he tried desperately to look knowledgable about ... typical for "1st Generation JFK Assassination Tragedy Conspiracy Hoaxers"
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"This proves that the Zapruder film is altered. Iv been saying that for years".
Sorry to hear your quest for a higher education was not a completely successful one ....
See the 'Zavada Report' .....the Z-film alteration nonsense is as dead as JFK ... there was no technology useful at that time that would of enabled such a quick alteration with-out massive "anomolous blips" all over the friggen radar screen ...
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"What kind of bullets were used"?
6.5mm "Western Cartridge Co." Mfg. for the 30,000 rifles then being imported for use in the US and Cuba (CIA BoP) ...
"From the description of the wounds they seemed designed to do maximum damage, and make sure the victim died".
Exactely the opposite : The FMJ (Full Metal Jacket)ed bullet was designed in accordence w/ Geneva Convention requirements for a 'Humane Bullet' that would go thru a person and not cause needless internal injuries .
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Shot 1 (Z-160) : Misses the limo completely .....
Shot 2 (Z-224) : Strikes JFK in upper back , exits throat .... hits JBC near rear armpit fractures rib.... exits under right nipple .... strikes wrist bone deflects and embeds in thigh ....
Fact : SBT correct : Bullets that are slowed as they travel thru two people can go fast enough to break bone but not fast enough to deform the bullet ..
Shot 3 (Z313) : Strikes JFK in back of head , temporal cavity ejects brain out the right .
any bullet that strikes a dense solid oject will become deformed.....the first missed shot becaose of the steep angle could not have leveled off to an almost horizontal trejectory path and travel all the way down to james tague location at underpass, sorry my friend but first missed shot Could have performed this feat perfectly if fired from the daltex building directly behind the limo.....
hogwash-zapruder testified at trial of clay shaw that the zapruder film as seen is exactly what he filmed. Also about 20 people watched it IMMEDIATELY upon it being developed and then 10 or so compies were made. so then all of the copies would have to be fakes too but also there were other films made Nix and other films also captured the assassination from different view points and they matched the zapruder. how do you fake 3-4 different films? are you aware there were 3 or so other films?
Add up the shots. The president reaches for his neck (1 shot). The governor is struck in the back (2 shots). The fatal headshot is three shots. AND James Tague bystander is nicked by a fragment at the underpass (this is FACT). Minimum of 4 shots.
What kind of bullets were used? From the description of the wounds they seemed designed to do maximum damage, and make sure the victim died. Are those sort of bullets easily obtained by members of the public? Forgive my ignorance but gun ownership is not widespread in my country.
6.5 mm cartridge, if you believe Oswald's gun was the only one used. Wouldn't be the first choice of any assassin with half a wit of common sense, given what other ones were available.
Does 218 suspects in the assassn. mean that some of them must have conspired to kill JFK ? Or does it indicate the weakness of CT's ?
In real-world criminal investigations having literally dozens of suspects is an indication that the probe is in very deep & serious trouble.
The evidence isn't converging to point to one suspect or a few suspects who may have conspired. The evidence against 1 suspect is about as good as the evidence against any other :
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In any real world criminal probe / historical investigation (the JFK assassn. is both) we expect some of our evidence 2 B erroneous. Documents record "facts" that turn out 2 B untrue. Witnesses say things that are wrong & sometimes downright wild. But suppose you're not willing to write off documents & witnesses as mistaken. What kind of theories does that lead to ? What we have now :
CTer's believing JFK was killed by many different ppl , for many different reasons & in many different ways !
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Conspiracists seem to like big conspiracies. Such conspiracies allow the theorist to explain away all the evidence against LHO. After all, all the witnesses & investigators who produced such evidence can be branded liars & big conspiracies are satisfying because they can include all the groups one happens to dislike. But do these CT's pass muster as sound logic ? Well they do if JFK was killed by what Bugliosi has tabulated as 218 assassin's & 44 major entity's SO FAR !
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To Conspiratard's it seems that 'more suspects' the better. If there r a lot of groups/individuals who had some plausible motive to kill JFK it must follow that some of them did. If there r a lot of suspects everybody can have a suspect that they hate. (R) can blame communist . Liberals lefty's can blame the CIA/FBI. Northerners hating the South blame Texas oil & right-winger's.
If blaming a lone commy Oswald isn't sufficiently satisfying , everybody can blame the Mafia.
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Having lots of suspects can allow u 2 fiddle & finagle & explain away any inconvenient evidence. To avoid facing the evidence against LHO u need 2 claim the DPD lied, that the FBI tampered w/evidence, that WC members engaged in a cover-up, that experts working 4 the HSCA lied when they authenticated the evidence against LHO . Well Y not claim all that? After all, you've got gobs of ppl whose behavior & motives r suspect, right ?
The only thing u don't have is a coherent & sensible theory.
Yeah, rules of logic and probability as practiced by Arlen Specter and his "single bullet theory?" Additionally, how about Jean Hill's description of her testy interview with AS using coersive skills rather than classical and critical thinking skills trying to get her to testify as he wished her to speak. Fuck you and your psuedo intellectual skills.
"There were things that should have been done differently. There were mistakes made. But I know of no facts that have been brought to light which would call for a reassessment of the conclusion. I'm fundamentally satisfied with the findings of the Warren Commission Report." - Senator Edward Kennedy
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"What's your point of quoting Ted" ?
I find it very interesting that JFK's own brother doesn't believe in a con-spiracy in his brothers death but 70% of the brain dead mobocracy in America have been brainwashed into tinking it so so so ?
How how how ?
Repetition repetition repetition .
Repeat a lie many many many times and people (99.9% who have never read the WCR) will believe the Nazi inspired lie lie lie :
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Anyone w/the slightest knowledge about Wash. like EMK , knows that a secret like JFK / Conspiracy / Assassination would be impossible to keep for 45 seconds let alone 45 years . That's why it has been written :
"Before 911 truthers came JFK truthers !
Dark machinations in the death of President Kennedy' laid the spiritual groundwork for todays bizarre plots behind 911 .
In both cases the obviously guilty culprits are ignored in favor of politically expedient & more desirable targets"
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"After LBJ became president & started the vietnam war"
Whoaaaa nellie ! JFK's War ! JFK increased troops levels into VN from 500 under IKE to 16,000 w/in 1 yr. of being in the White House . LBJ was carrying on JFK's intent not to lose VN to the Reds . The w/drawal of 1000 troops (Weren't needed anyway) was a warning to Diem to start a policy of tolerance towards the Buddist Monks of which JFK was appalled at seeing them go up like 'Bic' lighters day after day on the streets of Siagon .
you obviously haven't done enough research on the subject of JFK's assassination, and your conclusions are based on your beliefs, not the facts of the case. Credible forensic evidence points to multiple gunshots and the Specter "magic bullet theory" is a ballistic joke to anyone trained in gun-shot forensics. Google Harold Weisberg: " Mr. Weisberg cannot accurately be called conspiracy theorist, because he did not speculate about who might have been involved in the assassination."
cddicksucker is piece of shit lying disinformation agent, a goose stepping Nazi, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and prepare to piss your pants in laughter at this degenerate asshole being exposed for what he is.
If this cowardly traitor with a deep rooted need to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
It hasnt been kept a secret, people thought it was a conspiracy before the shots stopped echoing in dealy...and you r very typical with your technique of creating this 9-11 to jfk flake conspiracy equation, one has nothing to do with the other, conspiracies have existed as long as humans have been on this planet.....
ENEMIES LIST! Nixon was impeached primarily for misusing the IRS. In early 1961 JFK planted family friend Carmine Bellino in the IRS with the title "special consultant to the president "and demanded that he have access to tax returns. They turned the IRS into a lending library. Quoting from the Wall Street Journal of January 28, 1997: "the Kennedys were far worse than Nixon in their manipulation of the IRS...
The documents show that the Kennedys targeted non-exempt activist groups. And the auditing was done at the behest of politicians, not the professionals at the IRS...On December 20, 1961, Rogovin forwarded to Dean J. Barron, the IRS audit director at the time, a list of 18 organizations to investigate." Scores were targeted later including: Daughters of the American Revolution !
When the Secret Service was asked by local officials in Seattle if Kennedy always had prostitutes brought to him, they answered, "We travel during the day, so this only happens at night." Truckloads of prostitutes were brought to the Whitehouse and admitted without security checks. When JFK inspected military bases, he expected to be supplied with women.
When President, Kennedy blackmailed starlets into servicing him or have their careers destroyed.
Many of these groups had their tax-exempt status revoked. The Kennedys also targeted corporate taxpayers and at one point had a plan to target up to 10,000 groups.
While JFK initiated The Peace Corps , which was paid voluntarism for unskilled do-gooders !
OH mr. draftman r u still at it????? get over it...all governments are guilty of conspiracy......and many many credible people have come forward on this case.....dealy plaza is geograghically the perfect design for a crossfire!!!!
I don't believe this ! Again (like on Larry King) she says that her husband was shot by "a second shot" (which Connally always said himself), thus DESTROYING the single bullet theory and proving that there was a second gunman BUT she still goes on saying that she believes the conclusions of the Warren Report !! Completely contradictory !!
Eraserhead18 - Her husband was hit at 223, but he had turned his back to her and she didn't realize it. She and Jackie both thought their husbands were hit by a shot fired at frame 285, which actually missed everyone, but went on to cause Tague's minor wound. Before you disagree, please watch this video, and look at the evidence.
Notice how the clip from the Love Field in Dallas ends at 1.47, why is this important, because the American viewers can't be shown what happenes in next 10 seconds.
You can see the secret service agents been ordered to stand down, but this part had to be cut, so that the one man story of Oswald can survive.
She doesn't remember the driver William Greer and his reactions just before the last shot, I wonder why?
Remember, her husband said "they are going to kill us all".
I tend to agree with Nellie Conally...1 man did this...I feel that we as Americans find it so hard to believe that only 1 lone psycho could have killed JFK and changed history...this is what Lee H Oswald wanted...he is happy in hell that we refer to him today...
We live in a chaotic world where wonderful people like JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK, John Lennon and many other people who symbolised hope rationality and progress can be taken away by insignificant people with an axe to grind. We always want our modern day Jesus figures to die for a reason. Truth is they often don't and reality makes no sense.
Same can be said for people who think slim honey voiced Elvis is still alive and didn't die obese & straining on the toilet.
swansandtyphus - The only person who actually espoused that nonsense was Gerald Posner.
Perhaps, somewhere in the world there is someone who believes this was a conspiracy, out of some warped desire to balance the scales, but in 60 years I have yet to meet one.
Most people believe this was a conspiracy because that is what the evidence proves.
(1)The CE399 bullet and the bullet fragments found in the limosine which ballistically matched Oswald's rifle.
(2) The palmprint and fibres of his shirt found on the rifle which was discovered in the sixth floor of the TSBD and the brown wrapping paper for his "curtain rods" which was found in the sniper's nest.
(3) Witness testimony that puts Oswald in the 6th floor window before and during the shooting.
There is no evidence that Oswald was involved with any other person in the assassination.
There is no evidence of a second or third or twentieth gunman depending on how many assassins you want to believe were involved other than Oswald, there is NO evidence of Oswald's links with the Mafia, CIA, KGB, pro or anti-Castro Cubans or any other organisations or anyone else.
The WC went through Oswald's entire life, examined practically every breath he ever took and the guy was a sad pathetic loner.
BTW, did you watch the video I linked, which was about Dr. Alvarez's discovery that Zapruder was startled by a loud noise at frame 285?
Did you notice the reactions by the limo passengers that were in perfect unison with Zapruder's reaction?
I think Kellerman pretty much settles it. The shock wave of that passing bullet would have generated a 130db sound level if it had come from Oswald's rifle, followed by a 115-120db muzzle blast.
I responded directly to your statements but none of them isolated Oswald as the only shooter.
I also showed you proof that Oswald did NOT act alone, since the shot at frame 285 was only 1.5 seconds prior to the one at 312. So, Oswald could not have fired both of them.
BTW, CE-399 was not the SBT bullet. Watch this video:
The latest research by Dale Myers who produced an extremely detailed 3-D computer model of the Zapruder film concludes that there are three instances of reactions to gunfire in the Zapruder film - frame 157, frame 222-223 and frame 313.
You are a buffoon and this discussion has concluded. Stop annoying me and go away.
swansandtyphus - Why do you need Myers to tell you what you see in the Zapruder film? The reactions immediately following 285 are NOT subtle.
Did you ever read Clint Hill's testimony? He jumped just a hair prior to 313, in direct response to a shot fired as he was "scanning" a small group to his left.
But we never see him look to the left during the Zfilm. That's because he doesn't look toward Brehm, Hill, Babushka lady etc.. until AFTER we lose sight of him.
swansandtyphus - I'm sorry you have to resort to insults. You wouldn't have to do that if the evidence was on your side.
And it's OK if you need to bail. My posts are also for the benefit of lurkers.
You still need to explain how you proved that Oswald fired the early, missed shot, and you have not demonstrated that Oswald could have fired the shots at 285 and 312.
BTW, the reason the Secret Service appeared "sluggish" was that they heard nothing that sounded like a real gunshot prior to 285.
A rifle shot can make a number of noises - the exiting of the bullet from the muzzle, the tearing of the bullet through the air and the striking of the bullet on its target not to mention the echoes as the sounds rebound off surrounding buildings.
It is no suprise that there was confusion over the number of shots and their sources.
However the medical and ballistic evidence is the key and it proves that at three shots were fired from Oswald's weapon and he alone was involved.
The X-Rays and the autopsy evidence is the decider. The bullet that struck JFK in the back left a trail of fragments in the cranium before it exited the right side of the head. There is no evidence of any other bullet striking JFK in the head from any other weapon than the Oswald rifle.
Three spent hulls were found at the TSBD.
No other hulls were found and most witnesses heard only three shots.
There is no credible evidence of a suppressed weapon used to kill JFK or any other weapon.
"The X-Rays and the autopsy evidence is the decider."
That is correct, but not only did the top independent experts to examine the Xrays at Bethesda, confirm that there were two headshots, but Dr. Boswell confirmed that the Parkland drs. were correct, that the BOH was thoroughly devastated. Watch this video:
There is no expert who confirmed there were two headshots. The X-rays demonstrate only one shot - to the back of the head and exiting the front right top of the skull.
swansandtyphus - You're wrong again. David Mantik MD and Phd in Physics, Radiologist and M.D. Randy Robertson and Dr. Joseph Riley Phd. neuroanatomy independently examined the xrays.
Each of them concluded that there was clear evidence of two shots to the head.
Riley "John Kennedy was struck in the head by two bullets, one from the right front and one from the rear."
Robertson "the President was killed when he was struck in the head by two bullets instead of one as previously reported."
You can read their complete reports at my website jfkhistory . com. Just click on the "articles" link, then click on the "A Single Answer" link. Then, just do a search for their names.
You will then find links to the complete papers by Riley and Robertson. I don't have a paper by Mantik right now, but his position is well known.
BTW, each of them also declared the xrays to be authentic and each agreed with the Bethesda doctors on the location of the rear entry wound.
swansandytyphus, If I were an idiot you would be able to walk all over me in these debates. And you would be able to do so honestly and logically.
I realize why you are so frustrated and angry. But the solution to your problem is not in throwing tantrums. It is in opening your mind and letting go of the bigotry.
This case is like a thousand others, except that we have a great deal more evidence to work with. It is that evidence, which resolves all the questions.
Also, this short video will shed additional light on the question of multiple wounds to the head. It is an addendum to my "final shots" video from last year.
It doesn't matter if the old bitty is lying or really believes the oswald/single bullet, either way her testimony has zero bearing. She is not impartial, she was too near the line of fire and if she can look at all the evidence and NOT have doubts she's paying close enough attention.
I don't agree that Nellie Connally's testimony has zero bearing. She was in the car when the shooting happened and, even though it was a long time ago, what she has to say is very important. In this clip she says nothing about a single bullet theory, but she does say that she believes Oswald was the sole assassin and that three bullets were fired, or at least that one bullet hit her husband and two others hit the president...
And when she says at the end that "maybe Oswald got them both", she means that maybe Oswald was ultimately responsible for her husband's death as well the president's, but not that he hit them both with a single bullet. And, of course, some people say that four, not three bullets were fired, and that one bullet missed the car entirely. But only three empty shells were found in the Book Depository, so something doesn't add up and probably never will.
The film clearly shows her husband sitting upright and facing to the front when Kennedy gets the fatal shot - but she says he was lying face up on her lap...? My head's spinning with all the contradictions in this case!
@tmarie1110.....WERE YOU THERE....NO YOU WERE NOT SO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT !!
leandean100 6 days ago
If you believe her story (and why wouldn't you) then there were 4 shots. 1. Hit Kennedy in the neck 2. Hit tague on the street 3. Hit her husband as she just described 4. Took Kennedy's head off. 4 shots is 2 shooters, it's that simple.
PabloPena108 3 weeks ago
Well, Nellie did get one thing right. I remember some idiots tried to criticize Mr. Kennedy, they thought she was trying to get out of the car. Well, none of us know for sure what we'd have done under the same circumstances, . "Judge not, lest ye be judged".
gotch09 1 month ago
A sweet lady. she reminds me of my mother.
zyxquark 2 months ago
Old lady, in the scene of the crime, traumatized no doubt..I know I would be. She's told what happed that day by the men. That's whar happened in the 60's, women did not get to have a point of view. Fast forward 40 years and you're surprised at the sketchiness of her memory? Please people..There is no need to call her "old hag" or take for granted the technology that allows us to review the events frame by frame.
any12u 2 months ago
Oswald this, Oswald that. Who needs history when you have propaganda?
Nominay 3 months ago
and how her husband was also hit in the hand wrist and thy
tmarie1110 3 months ago
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she is a lying old hag if you notice she said after jfk was shot in the throat jackie said "they killed my husband, his brains our in my lap." well jfk's brains were'nt blown out until after the third s shot. and if you watch the footage of the assassination mrs connally didnt pull her husband down into her lap until after the third shot. and if you watch the interviews with john connally after jfk was killed he changed his story a few times and she also dont mention how her husband was hit
tmarie1110 3 months ago
she is a lying old hag if you notice she said after jfk was shot in the throat jackie said "they killed my husband, his brains our in my lap." well jfk's brains were'nt blown out until after the third s shot. and if you watch the footage of the assassination mrs connally didnt pull her husband down into her lap until after the third shot. and if you watch the interviews with john connally after jfk was killed he changed his story a few times and she also dont mention how her husband was hit
tmarie1110 3 months ago
I never knew Nellie Connolly was on "The View". This was back when it had more class and taste.
She looks lovely. Such horrifying details she shared.
snoops71 8 months ago 2
Thank you for sharing all this here. I miss people of Courage like the people in that car.
mcc11505 9 months ago
They keep villifying poor old Oswald.
n0gar 9 months ago
THUMBS UP IF YOU CANT STOP LAUGHING AT HOW FAT STAR JONES IS
jonnoble53 10 months ago
@jonnoble53 You're a moron!
any12u 2 months ago
He had a big wound of the size of a baseball in his chest!!! lol... old lying bitch...
CT2507 1 year ago
Notice Nellie said she heard the shot, then saw JFK grab his throat, then John Connally turned right, then left, while turning back he was hit. totally inconsistent with the Warren Commission single bullet fantasy! John Connally always said he was hit with a separate bullet. William Greer, Secret Service agent, and Limo driver, said right after the assassination, that there were "Bullets coming from every direction"!
xboostedbirdx 1 year ago
liar
ChristianHolloway 1 year ago
why did'nt jackie do what nellie did ????
booferbill 1 year ago
@booferbill Jackie didn't try to leave the car, though it seems that way. Jackie saw her husband's brain tissue on the back of the car and tried to get it and collect it before it fell off the car. She was heard saying, "I have a piece of his brain in my hand." She thought it may help in the hospital when doctors were trying to save her husband.
thegreatbeliever 1 year ago
@thegreatbeliever she just wanted 2 keep it as a momento lol.
ChristianHolloway 1 year ago
@thegreatbeliever Actually she tried to place the tissue back in her husbands head. All should under stand that she was reacting and not thinking in what was a few seconds at most.
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
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@booferbill @booferbill Jackie didn't try to leave the car, though it seems that way. Jackie saw her husband's brain tissue on the back of the car and tried to get it and collect it before it fell off the car. She was heard saying, "I have a piece of his brain in my hand." She thought it may help in the hospital when doctors were trying to save her husband.
thegreatbeliever 1 year ago
@booferbill Think for a minute. When her husband was first hit she didn't know what was happening. and then came the head shot. Not thinking and in shock she climed out onto the trunk of the car picked up some of her husbands brain tissue and she tried to place back in his head. All in about 5 seconds.
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
I always forget about Starr Jones then I see her get sick to my stomach
hoosierdaddyinsfca 1 year ago
Fu Barbara, Nellie husband was in on the killing of jfk.
Bidil6 1 year ago
Nellie Connally is a very nice lady but she's wrong. She didn't pull John over until the 3rd shot that hit Kennedy. She said it was the second shot. The Second shot hit both men at the same time.
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 2 years ago
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@TELEVISIONARCHIVES "Nellie Connally is a very nice lady but she's wrong .... the 3rd shot that hit Kennedy. She said it was the second shot. The Second shot hit both men at the same time"
Say hallauya brother !
God Bless the SBT !
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
The funniest post by this cdd guy. After all the venom and innuendo he is spewing about JFK, he says about Thomas Jefferson and his relationship with a female slave. " Any real proof of that or is it just lore?" No one can take this guy seriously.
0907oliv 2 years ago
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@0907oliv "Thomas Jefferson and his relationship with a female slave"
Can we get a chocolate faced citation on that or will we have to settle for even less, your word on the subject ?
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
Anyone who works for a non-profit knows that a non-profit could get audited at anytime and that the non-profit has to be careful what it does and not engage in poltiical activity that could cause it to lose its non-profit tax-exempt status. I totally agree with what the Kennedys did in this regard. They checked into radical groups of both the left and the right. They were concerned about the climate of hatred and extremism in the country and the groups that fostered it.
0907oliv 2 years ago
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0907oliv 2 years ago
Rest in Peace, Mrs. Connally. You are so missed - Texas misses Nellie
hshopson 2 years ago 2
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After 1 yr of marriage a friend said of Jackie, "She was wandering around looking like a survivor of an airplane crash." (Reeves p 116) JFK did Mary Pinchot Meyer in about thirty WH visits from Jan '62 to Nov '63. She was mysteriously murdered in 1964 and her diary of their affair ended up at the CIA.
The CIA got JFK's chestnuts out of the fire , covered his bare ass chaphides and JFK betrayed them by saying he was going to "shatter the CIA into a 1000 pieces"
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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JFK did Fiddle and Faddle, SS code names for 21 and 23 year & staff members hired mostly for sex. JFK tested dangerous drugs on them without their knowledge by putting it in their drinks. WH intern Marion "Mimi" Beardsley whose married name is Fahnestock was 19 when JFK raped her (statutory rape - the age of consent was 21 in DC at the time). A powerful older man preying on vulnerable young women is what sexual harassment is all about.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
@cdddraftsman You obsssessed with sex & killing, you old fart? How 'bout that Ronald Reagan? Due to Ronnie's anti-commie paranoia, he funded the fascist governments of El Salvador, Guatemala and the remains of Nicaragua's fascist dictator Anastasio Somoza's National Guard (that happy band of torturers!), governments who killed tens of thousands of their countrymen. Now: Take that information and start posting it on Ronald Reagan videos, you old fool.
bapyou 1 year ago
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@bapyou "that happy band of torturers!" Well judging by how many communists there are spewing there venum here at YT , I'd have to say this "happy band" wasn't too effective. BTW how did you escape? Sell your mothers soul for the tail end of an anchovy?
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
@cdddraftsman Glad to see a useless fuckwad like yourself own up to the right wing's support for RONALD REAGAN'S fascists and torturers in Central America: The Death Squads in Guatemala & El Salvador & the Contras in Nicaragua. Usually dumb right wing fucks like yourself fall all over themselves screaming about how Ronald Reagan was next in purity to Jesus Christ himself. I give you ten points for honesty in your admission of support for New World fascism. Cheers.
bapyou 1 year ago
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@bapyou "Glad to see a useless f*****d like yourself own up to the right wing's support for RONALD REAGAN"
You don't sound like you're glad? You sound like all the other delusional squack puppets at YT who hate the fact that the USG polices the world 24/7/365 w/carrier battle groups in all oceans of the world. You sound like you hate the fact that the right side won the 'Cold War'. Typical for a 'Hatriot' to do so :
watch?v=ZzlzeJ4igmE&feature=related
Pull yer head otta yer butt hillbilly
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
Fascism! It's what's for dinner!
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bapyou 1 year ago
@bapyou "New World fascism" is just a fanciful dream of an old world goose stepping jackboot wearing Lebensborn Nazi like my bastard son Dr. Lowry. His heroes are George W. (dumb as a fence post) Bush and Richard "The Crook" Nixon, who he considers the greatest Presidents the US ever had, and the cross dressing cocksucking mastermind of the Warren Commission fable, J. Edgar Hoover.
I wish I could point a finger at him, but there are 4 pointing back at me.
COME VISIT MY CHANNEL & learn more!
MsDrLowry 1 year ago 2
@bapyou he is on EVERY jfk vid trying to convince everyone LHO acted alone. there are a few like him. middle aged. no life. spends all of his time trying to convince the world there is no conspiracy and a nobody like LHO brought down the worlds most powerful man by himself
licoricerain 1 year ago
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@licoricerain "LHO brought down the worlds most powerful man by himself"
I agree good boy you're finally getting it !
cdddraftsman 1 year ago
woman go to sleep
cullinane8888 2 years ago
Ugh! Another Texas housewife with a gossip on her mind.
CubanCheGuevara 2 years ago
Thomas Jefferson fathered children with some of his female slaves.......I guess the constitution isnt worth the parchment it was written on...........
migo53333 2 years ago
Any real proof that Thomas Jefferson did that or just lore ?
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
yES, IN 1997 DNA testing was done. 99.9% fact. They made a big deal about it at the time, decendents where on all the tv shows and there is a book.
ejdiii333 2 years ago
Okay, you win...cddd i guess because kennedy was a whoremaster oswald should have been the lonenut shooter and taken him out......"truckloads" of hookers......he must have been on some good vitamins......so there were i guess literally groups of hookers hanging in the whitehouse.......if you really knew your stuff you would know that hookers r a common commodity in the worlds of bussiness and politics...........
migo53333 2 years ago
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Truckloads yes .... but not entire cruiseliners full !
At one point they had to make a decision on whether or not they should dredge the Potomac River and install a special 'handicapped ramp' (*) from the White House directly to the ship !
True story hushed up by The History Channel !
(*) Predates current ADA standards by a 'Moon Shot'
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Silly show. Watch the clip from the Larry Kind show in 1992. There Nelly Connolly says she heard a noise and saw Kennedy was hit (SHOT 1) he grabbed his throat, then, next shot (SHOT 2), her husband was hit. Then, next shot (SHOT 3), Kennedy's brains were blown out.
John Connally +Nelly Connally were interviewed together by Larry King, and she said that. 3 shots that all hit. Not the magic bullet theory of the Warren Commission
She probably thought it was time to tell the truth, after 30 years.
ToritoNL 2 years ago
HOW COULD JOHN CONNALY BE secretary of the navy at the same time he ws governor? maeks no sense
Onionsayswhat 2 years ago
He was Sec. of Navy until '62 when he resigned to run for Governor. It's not that complicated.
esb84 2 years ago
cddickless is a lying piece of shit disinformation agent, a goose stepping Nazi, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and prepare to piss your pants in laughter at this degenerate asshole being exposed for what he is.
If this cowardly traitor with a deep rooted need to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
VinnyVoom444 2 years ago 4
@VinnyVoom444 look at almost every JFK assassination post on youtube, cdddickless has his lying, disinformation CIA crap all over every piece of video about the assassination. He is part of the conspiracy in my opinion, because he takes every opportunity he can to be part of the disinformation machine that consistantly tries to ridicule anything but the Warren Commission fantasy about the assassination.
dougalmac54 8 months ago
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"many credible people have come forward on this case....."
Name one who isn't highly suspect and lacks verification ?
"dealy plaza is geograghically the perfect design for a crossfire!!!!"
What a great idea ! Fire a shot in FRONT of JFK (Grassy Knoll) in order to frame a patsy who's gun was to be found BEHIND JFK (TSBD) when he was killed ?
Hmmmm .... Really ?
Who was running your op ? The 'Apple Dumpling Gang' ...... or the 'Salvation Army' ......
Just curious ......
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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"Weisberg cannot accurately be called ct'er, because he did not speculate about who might have been involved in the assassination."
He did speculate about everything else and managed thru shear ignorance to get wrong every conclusion that he ever talked about .... not surprising since he had no training in any of the feilds he tried desperately to look knowledgable about ... typical for "1st Generation JFK Assassination Tragedy Conspiracy Hoaxers"
Didn't fool me for one second ....
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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"This proves that the Zapruder film is altered. Iv been saying that for years".
Sorry to hear your quest for a higher education was not a completely successful one ....
See the 'Zavada Report' .....the Z-film alteration nonsense is as dead as JFK ... there was no technology useful at that time that would of enabled such a quick alteration with-out massive "anomolous blips" all over the friggen radar screen ...
Get real .....
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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P-1
"What kind of bullets were used"?
6.5mm "Western Cartridge Co." Mfg. for the 30,000 rifles then being imported for use in the US and Cuba (CIA BoP) ...
"From the description of the wounds they seemed designed to do maximum damage, and make sure the victim died".
Exactely the opposite : The FMJ (Full Metal Jacket)ed bullet was designed in accordence w/ Geneva Convention requirements for a 'Humane Bullet' that would go thru a person and not cause needless internal injuries .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
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P-2
Shot 1 (Z-160) : Misses the limo completely .....
Shot 2 (Z-224) : Strikes JFK in upper back , exits throat .... hits JBC near rear armpit fractures rib.... exits under right nipple .... strikes wrist bone deflects and embeds in thigh ....
Fact : SBT correct : Bullets that are slowed as they travel thru two people can go fast enough to break bone but not fast enough to deform the bullet ..
Shot 3 (Z313) : Strikes JFK in back of head , temporal cavity ejects brain out the right .
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
any bullet that strikes a dense solid oject will become deformed.....the first missed shot becaose of the steep angle could not have leveled off to an almost horizontal trejectory path and travel all the way down to james tague location at underpass, sorry my friend but first missed shot Could have performed this feat perfectly if fired from the daltex building directly behind the limo.....
migo53333 2 years ago
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6Ott7 2 years ago
hogwash-zapruder testified at trial of clay shaw that the zapruder film as seen is exactly what he filmed. Also about 20 people watched it IMMEDIATELY upon it being developed and then 10 or so compies were made. so then all of the copies would have to be fakes too but also there were other films made Nix and other films also captured the assassination from different view points and they matched the zapruder. how do you fake 3-4 different films? are you aware there were 3 or so other films?
Onionsayswhat 2 years ago
Add up the shots. The president reaches for his neck (1 shot). The governor is struck in the back (2 shots). The fatal headshot is three shots. AND James Tague bystander is nicked by a fragment at the underpass (this is FACT). Minimum of 4 shots.
grimdimly 3 years ago
What kind of bullets were used? From the description of the wounds they seemed designed to do maximum damage, and make sure the victim died. Are those sort of bullets easily obtained by members of the public? Forgive my ignorance but gun ownership is not widespread in my country.
heliotropezzz333 3 years ago
where do you live?
xman4un 3 years ago
6.5 mm cartridge, if you believe Oswald's gun was the only one used. Wouldn't be the first choice of any assassin with half a wit of common sense, given what other ones were available.
AgaMbadi 2 years ago
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Onionsayswhat 2 years ago
Is anyone else here wondering what was edited out at 2:28 ????? Take a close look at the footage leading up to that moment here: 2:25
AgaMbadi 3 years ago
yes it absolutely was edited........
migo53333 2 years ago
After LBJ became president & started the vietnam war several texas based contractors were awared huge military contracts.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
Does 218 suspects in the assassn. mean that some of them must have conspired to kill JFK ? Or does it indicate the weakness of CT's ?
In real-world criminal investigations having literally dozens of suspects is an indication that the probe is in very deep & serious trouble.
The evidence isn't converging to point to one suspect or a few suspects who may have conspired. The evidence against 1 suspect is about as good as the evidence against any other :
Which means it's no good at all.
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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In any real world criminal probe / historical investigation (the JFK assassn. is both) we expect some of our evidence 2 B erroneous. Documents record "facts" that turn out 2 B untrue. Witnesses say things that are wrong & sometimes downright wild. But suppose you're not willing to write off documents & witnesses as mistaken. What kind of theories does that lead to ? What we have now :
CTer's believing JFK was killed by many different ppl , for many different reasons & in many different ways !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Conspiracists seem to like big conspiracies. Such conspiracies allow the theorist to explain away all the evidence against LHO. After all, all the witnesses & investigators who produced such evidence can be branded liars & big conspiracies are satisfying because they can include all the groups one happens to dislike. But do these CT's pass muster as sound logic ? Well they do if JFK was killed by what Bugliosi has tabulated as 218 assassin's & 44 major entity's SO FAR !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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To Conspiratard's it seems that 'more suspects' the better. If there r a lot of groups/individuals who had some plausible motive to kill JFK it must follow that some of them did. If there r a lot of suspects everybody can have a suspect that they hate. (R) can blame communist . Liberals lefty's can blame the CIA/FBI. Northerners hating the South blame Texas oil & right-winger's.
If blaming a lone commy Oswald isn't sufficiently satisfying , everybody can blame the Mafia.
Sniffle Pift ;-(
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Having lots of suspects can allow u 2 fiddle & finagle & explain away any inconvenient evidence. To avoid facing the evidence against LHO u need 2 claim the DPD lied, that the FBI tampered w/evidence, that WC members engaged in a cover-up, that experts working 4 the HSCA lied when they authenticated the evidence against LHO . Well Y not claim all that? After all, you've got gobs of ppl whose behavior & motives r suspect, right ?
The only thing u don't have is a coherent & sensible theory.
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Rules of Logic & Probability when Thinking About Conspiracy ?
Anybody who wants to solve this case would be well-advised to use the intellectual tools that have been tried & proven.
Classical & critical thinking skills .
Unfortunately CTer's often ignore basic rules of logic & build 'tempest's in a teapot' on edifice's of unfounded speculation.
Just how do they convince their readers? And how would sound intellectual inquiry proceed?
Unfortunately in opposite directions .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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All comments per JohnMcadams Site !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
Yeah, rules of logic and probability as practiced by Arlen Specter and his "single bullet theory?" Additionally, how about Jean Hill's description of her testy interview with AS using coersive skills rather than classical and critical thinking skills trying to get her to testify as he wished her to speak. Fuck you and your psuedo intellectual skills.
HS22181 3 years ago
"There were things that should have been done differently. There were mistakes made. But I know of no facts that have been brought to light which would call for a reassessment of the conclusion. I'm fundamentally satisfied with the findings of the Warren Commission Report." - Senator Edward Kennedy
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
What's your point of quoting Ted?
Nominay 3 years ago
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"What's your point of quoting Ted" ?
I find it very interesting that JFK's own brother doesn't believe in a con-spiracy in his brothers death but 70% of the brain dead mobocracy in America have been brainwashed into tinking it so so so ?
How how how ?
Repetition repetition repetition .
Repeat a lie many many many times and people (99.9% who have never read the WCR) will believe the Nazi inspired lie lie lie :
JFK was killed by a con-spiracy x 3
No no no bad boy !
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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Anyone w/the slightest knowledge about Wash. like EMK , knows that a secret like JFK / Conspiracy / Assassination would be impossible to keep for 45 seconds let alone 45 years . That's why it has been written :
"Before 911 truthers came JFK truthers !
Dark machinations in the death of President Kennedy' laid the spiritual groundwork for todays bizarre plots behind 911 .
In both cases the obviously guilty culprits are ignored in favor of politically expedient & more desirable targets"
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
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"After LBJ became president & started the vietnam war"
Whoaaaa nellie ! JFK's War ! JFK increased troops levels into VN from 500 under IKE to 16,000 w/in 1 yr. of being in the White House . LBJ was carrying on JFK's intent not to lose VN to the Reds . The w/drawal of 1000 troops (Weren't needed anyway) was a warning to Diem to start a policy of tolerance towards the Buddist Monks of which JFK was appalled at seeing them go up like 'Bic' lighters day after day on the streets of Siagon .
cdddraftsman 3 years ago
you obviously haven't done enough research on the subject of JFK's assassination, and your conclusions are based on your beliefs, not the facts of the case. Credible forensic evidence points to multiple gunshots and the Specter "magic bullet theory" is a ballistic joke to anyone trained in gun-shot forensics. Google Harold Weisberg: " Mr. Weisberg cannot accurately be called conspiracy theorist, because he did not speculate about who might have been involved in the assassination."
dougalmac54 3 years ago
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cddicksucker is piece of shit lying disinformation agent, a goose stepping Nazi, a bigot, and a sociopath.
Google "Tom Lowery JFK" and prepare to piss your pants in laughter at this degenerate asshole being exposed for what he is.
If this cowardly traitor with a deep rooted need to serve illegitimate authority were alive in the US colonies in the 1700's we'd all still be wearing powdered wigs in court and paying taxes to the King.
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6Ott7 2 years ago
It hasnt been kept a secret, people thought it was a conspiracy before the shots stopped echoing in dealy...and you r very typical with your technique of creating this 9-11 to jfk flake conspiracy equation, one has nothing to do with the other, conspiracies have existed as long as humans have been on this planet.....
migo53333 2 years ago
ENEMIES LIST! Nixon was impeached primarily for misusing the IRS. In early 1961 JFK planted family friend Carmine Bellino in the IRS with the title "special consultant to the president "and demanded that he have access to tax returns. They turned the IRS into a lending library. Quoting from the Wall Street Journal of January 28, 1997: "the Kennedys were far worse than Nixon in their manipulation of the IRS...
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
The documents show that the Kennedys targeted non-exempt activist groups. And the auditing was done at the behest of politicians, not the professionals at the IRS...On December 20, 1961, Rogovin forwarded to Dean J. Barron, the IRS audit director at the time, a list of 18 organizations to investigate." Scores were targeted later including: Daughters of the American Revolution !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
For your info Mr. draftman, the IRS shouldnt even exist......
migo53333 2 years ago
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When the Secret Service was asked by local officials in Seattle if Kennedy always had prostitutes brought to him, they answered, "We travel during the day, so this only happens at night." Truckloads of prostitutes were brought to the Whitehouse and admitted without security checks. When JFK inspected military bases, he expected to be supplied with women.
When President, Kennedy blackmailed starlets into servicing him or have their careers destroyed.
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Many of these groups had their tax-exempt status revoked. The Kennedys also targeted corporate taxpayers and at one point had a plan to target up to 10,000 groups.
While JFK initiated The Peace Corps , which was paid voluntarism for unskilled do-gooders !
cdddraftsman 2 years ago
Politics is and always will be a very shady bussiness, its obvious JFK was taken out because he was going to F up alot of action..............
migo53333 2 years ago
Nixon was never impeached dumbass
zfs1918 2 years ago
OH mr. draftman r u still at it????? get over it...all governments are guilty of conspiracy......and many many credible people have come forward on this case.....dealy plaza is geograghically the perfect design for a crossfire!!!!
migo53333 2 years ago
I don't believe this ! Again (like on Larry King) she says that her husband was shot by "a second shot" (which Connally always said himself), thus DESTROYING the single bullet theory and proving that there was a second gunman BUT she still goes on saying that she believes the conclusions of the Warren Report !! Completely contradictory !!
ERASERHEAD18 3 years ago
Eraserhead18 - Her husband was hit at 223, but he had turned his back to her and she didn't realize it. She and Jackie both thought their husbands were hit by a shot fired at frame 285, which actually missed everyone, but went on to cause Tague's minor wound. Before you disagree, please watch this video, and look at the evidence.
watch?v=Ql6VqZDiC6s
bobharris77 3 years ago
Notice how the clip from the Love Field in Dallas ends at 1.47, why is this important, because the American viewers can't be shown what happenes in next 10 seconds.
You can see the secret service agents been ordered to stand down, but this part had to be cut, so that the one man story of Oswald can survive.
She doesn't remember the driver William Greer and his reactions just before the last shot, I wonder why?
Remember, her husband said "they are going to kill us all".
Sharkhotel 3 years ago
JFK is been shot by James Files. He was on the Dutch tv and admid that he did it.
sneyder69 3 years ago
I tend to agree with Nellie Conally...1 man did this...I feel that we as Americans find it so hard to believe that only 1 lone psycho could have killed JFK and changed history...this is what Lee H Oswald wanted...he is happy in hell that we refer to him today...
schuyler10 3 years ago
That's the sad reality.
We live in a chaotic world where wonderful people like JFK, Bobby Kennedy, MLK, John Lennon and many other people who symbolised hope rationality and progress can be taken away by insignificant people with an axe to grind. We always want our modern day Jesus figures to die for a reason. Truth is they often don't and reality makes no sense.
Same can be said for people who think slim honey voiced Elvis is still alive and didn't die obese & straining on the toilet.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
I hope Obama have good protection....
migo53333 3 years ago
The US President drives around in a glorified tank surrounded by a battalion of heavily armed bodyguards.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandtyphus - The only person who actually espoused that nonsense was Gerald Posner.
Perhaps, somewhere in the world there is someone who believes this was a conspiracy, out of some warped desire to balance the scales, but in 60 years I have yet to meet one.
Most people believe this was a conspiracy because that is what the evidence proves.
bobharris77 3 years ago
The overwhelming evidence proves that three shots were fired, two hit Kennedy, one fatally and the shots were fired by Oswald from the TSBD.
Get over it bob.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandtyphus - What are the three best pieces of evidence that proves Oswald acted alone?
bobharris77 3 years ago
(1)The CE399 bullet and the bullet fragments found in the limosine which ballistically matched Oswald's rifle.
(2) The palmprint and fibres of his shirt found on the rifle which was discovered in the sixth floor of the TSBD and the brown wrapping paper for his "curtain rods" which was found in the sniper's nest.
(3) Witness testimony that puts Oswald in the 6th floor window before and during the shooting.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandtyphus - I guess you overlooked one word. What are the three best pieces of evidence that proves Oswald acted ALONE?
You presented evidence that he took part in the attack. My question is, what evidence proves that he acted alone.
bobharris77 3 years ago
There is no evidence that Oswald was involved with any other person in the assassination.
There is no evidence of a second or third or twentieth gunman depending on how many assassins you want to believe were involved other than Oswald, there is NO evidence of Oswald's links with the Mafia, CIA, KGB, pro or anti-Castro Cubans or any other organisations or anyone else.
The WC went through Oswald's entire life, examined practically every breath he ever took and the guy was a sad pathetic loner.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
BTW, did you watch the video I linked, which was about Dr. Alvarez's discovery that Zapruder was startled by a loud noise at frame 285?
Did you notice the reactions by the limo passengers that were in perfect unison with Zapruder's reaction?
I think Kellerman pretty much settles it. The shock wave of that passing bullet would have generated a 130db sound level if it had come from Oswald's rifle, followed by a 115-120db muzzle blast.
Then, look at their statements.
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
You are continually changing the subject and continually going on tangents instead of actually engaging with my answers to your criticisms.
Until you respond to the rebutals I have made of your claims then we have nothing more to discuss.
Good day.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
I responded directly to your statements but none of them isolated Oswald as the only shooter.
I also showed you proof that Oswald did NOT act alone, since the shot at frame 285 was only 1.5 seconds prior to the one at 312. So, Oswald could not have fired both of them.
BTW, CE-399 was not the SBT bullet. Watch this video:
watch?v=-eGupSng-Po
bobharris77 3 years ago 4
The latest research by Dale Myers who produced an extremely detailed 3-D computer model of the Zapruder film concludes that there are three instances of reactions to gunfire in the Zapruder film - frame 157, frame 222-223 and frame 313.
You are a buffoon and this discussion has concluded. Stop annoying me and go away.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandtyphus - Why do you need Myers to tell you what you see in the Zapruder film? The reactions immediately following 285 are NOT subtle.
Did you ever read Clint Hill's testimony? He jumped just a hair prior to 313, in direct response to a shot fired as he was "scanning" a small group to his left.
But we never see him look to the left during the Zfilm. That's because he doesn't look toward Brehm, Hill, Babushka lady etc.. until AFTER we lose sight of him.
bobharris77 3 years ago 5
swansandtyphus - I'm sorry you have to resort to insults. You wouldn't have to do that if the evidence was on your side.
And it's OK if you need to bail. My posts are also for the benefit of lurkers.
You still need to explain how you proved that Oswald fired the early, missed shot, and you have not demonstrated that Oswald could have fired the shots at 285 and 312.
BTW, the reason the Secret Service appeared "sluggish" was that they heard nothing that sounded like a real gunshot prior to 285.
bobharris77 3 years ago
I first encountered Myers in 1994 after reading his article in Toaster magazine. Much of which was lifted almost verbatim, from *Case Closed*.
He has zero qualifications as a forensic animator and his other work consists of a short children's cartoon and a "dancing M&M commercial".
You can learn something about his tactics in this video:
watch?v=kJrH62TkCWE
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
swansandtyphus - Your error was to believe that because there is evidence that Oswald was involved, this was not a conspiracy.
Nellie was wrong that her husband was hit after JFK was. But haven't you ever wondered what shot she DID hear?
watch?v=Ql6VqZDiC6s
bobharris77 3 years ago
A rifle shot can make a number of noises - the exiting of the bullet from the muzzle, the tearing of the bullet through the air and the striking of the bullet on its target not to mention the echoes as the sounds rebound off surrounding buildings.
It is no suprise that there was confusion over the number of shots and their sources.
However the medical and ballistic evidence is the key and it proves that at three shots were fired from Oswald's weapon and he alone was involved.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
That's nonsense. How did you prove that oswald fired the shot that missed?
Or that a bullet didn't pass through the head without fragmenting?
Or that other missed shots weren't fired?
Or that shots were not not fired from a suppressed weapon, as was common with Mafia types?
And Guinn's procedures have been totally discredited, even by FBI people.
I think you need to do better than this.
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
The X-Rays and the autopsy evidence is the decider. The bullet that struck JFK in the back left a trail of fragments in the cranium before it exited the right side of the head. There is no evidence of any other bullet striking JFK in the head from any other weapon than the Oswald rifle.
Three spent hulls were found at the TSBD.
No other hulls were found and most witnesses heard only three shots.
There is no credible evidence of a suppressed weapon used to kill JFK or any other weapon.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
"The X-Rays and the autopsy evidence is the decider."
That is correct, but not only did the top independent experts to examine the Xrays at Bethesda, confirm that there were two headshots, but Dr. Boswell confirmed that the Parkland drs. were correct, that the BOH was thoroughly devastated. Watch this video:
watch?v=rYaoBB1rwkc
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
There is no expert who confirmed there were two headshots. The X-rays demonstrate only one shot - to the back of the head and exiting the front right top of the skull.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandtyphus - You're wrong again. David Mantik MD and Phd in Physics, Radiologist and M.D. Randy Robertson and Dr. Joseph Riley Phd. neuroanatomy independently examined the xrays.
Each of them concluded that there was clear evidence of two shots to the head.
Riley "John Kennedy was struck in the head by two bullets, one from the right front and one from the rear."
Robertson "the President was killed when he was struck in the head by two bullets instead of one as previously reported."
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
You can read their complete reports at my website jfkhistory . com. Just click on the "articles" link, then click on the "A Single Answer" link. Then, just do a search for their names.
You will then find links to the complete papers by Riley and Robertson. I don't have a paper by Mantik right now, but his position is well known.
BTW, each of them also declared the xrays to be authentic and each agreed with the Bethesda doctors on the location of the rear entry wound.
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
You are a joke. You really are a pathetic loser. Get lost.
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
swansandytyphus, If I were an idiot you would be able to walk all over me in these debates. And you would be able to do so honestly and logically.
I realize why you are so frustrated and angry. But the solution to your problem is not in throwing tantrums. It is in opening your mind and letting go of the bigotry.
This case is like a thousand others, except that we have a great deal more evidence to work with. It is that evidence, which resolves all the questions.
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
Also, this short video will shed additional light on the question of multiple wounds to the head. It is an addendum to my "final shots" video from last year.
watch?v=rYaoBB1rwkc&watch_response
bobharris77 3 years ago 3
correct
Obelisk2290 3 years ago
It doesn't matter if the old bitty is lying or really believes the oswald/single bullet, either way her testimony has zero bearing. She is not impartial, she was too near the line of fire and if she can look at all the evidence and NOT have doubts she's paying close enough attention.
Pathetic.
homerthompsonman 3 years ago
I don't agree that Nellie Connally's testimony has zero bearing. She was in the car when the shooting happened and, even though it was a long time ago, what she has to say is very important. In this clip she says nothing about a single bullet theory, but she does say that she believes Oswald was the sole assassin and that three bullets were fired, or at least that one bullet hit her husband and two others hit the president...
newmark401 3 years ago
And when she says at the end that "maybe Oswald got them both", she means that maybe Oswald was ultimately responsible for her husband's death as well the president's, but not that he hit them both with a single bullet. And, of course, some people say that four, not three bullets were fired, and that one bullet missed the car entirely. But only three empty shells were found in the Book Depository, so something doesn't add up and probably never will.
newmark401 3 years ago
THIS IS VERY SAD
realurban 3 years ago
The film clearly shows her husband sitting upright and facing to the front when Kennedy gets the fatal shot - but she says he was lying face up on her lap...? My head's spinning with all the contradictions in this case!
uberwench7 3 years ago
Star Jones looked so much better as a bigger woman
Y1ngYang07 3 years ago
Where's the shot that missed? Even the Warren commission admitted that one shot missed and hit a curbstone. So.. at least 4 shots at least now...
11DNA11 3 years ago
Thank you for posting this!
brnagn86 3 years ago
She sure is. That waste of protoplasm Star Jones is worse.
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
barbara is sooooooo overdramitic
saveen3 4 years ago
she slept with e. hoover!
xxitsjorynxx 3 years ago